The funny thing about this issue is that we Filipinos really value the sanctity of marriage, but tend to have a lot of cases involving marital disputes and most of these disputes are about third party relationships.
When there's no respect in a any relationship, why stay. It takes 2 to work it out.....never just one, otherwise, you will live a lie for the rest of your life and that's not a life.
This is no longer an issue anymore since some partners are living together without getting married. If they are married, i think they do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Or they just married for money or for other wrong reason. Again, there's annulment. And people still can choose to get separated without getting divorce. So why divorce? they only insist this because of the properties. To remove the conjugality of their properties. So again and again, divorce are only for rich. They don't really care about the domestic abuse. Victims of domestic abuse still cannot afford divorce. Most of them are women who are abuse physically but no work on their own. Where will they get their money for divorce or annulment then?
* value the sanctity * meaning "Italy"(where Vatican is) doesn't value sanctity, divorce is legal. Annulment is along process & expensive, while divorce is shorter & cheaper. So, the bottomline "MONEY GREED & MAKES YOU BLEED"
As a kid, I agree with divorce. I hate seeing my parents fight for the past 10 years. It’s affecting my mental health. Since, I’m the oldest I get to see everything on how they fight. My dad was even put in rehab bcs he tried to kill my mom back when I was 5. This past few months I’ve seen messages of my dad’s mistress
Fighting for 10yrs? Then you are waiting for the divorce to happen because you're hoping na matitigil ng divorce ang pagaaway nila? So until now nagaaway prin sila.. I guess..kc wula pang divorce sa PH.. PAg nagkaron nba ng divorce sa PH you think na it will also not affect the mental health of the child/children? Either way, maapektuhan tlg ang mga anak kung mgaing legal or hindi ang divorce. They can live sepArately. Mahal kc annulment kaya ang iba naghhwlaay nlng tas live in nlng dun sa mga bago nilnag partner. Divroce nirerecognize prin ksal at may mga condiciones like sustento etc.
@@jen8932 I understand you. We react differently. But what about if it's already life-threatening? Paulit-ulit na lang? what if umaabot na sa point na hahabulin ka na ng itak? bubuhusan ka ng kakaluto lang na sabaw? Ipapahiya ka sa publiko? What if traumatic na masyado na pati mismo ang mga bata ay nasasaktan na physically? What if pati ang mga bata ay lumalaban na para sa abused parent nila? What if umabot na kayo sa korte because of physical abuse? What if ilang beses na siyang pabalik-balik sa presinto dahil sa pagwawala niya pinapatawad mo pa din? What if lahat na lang pinagseselosan, umaabot na sa point na nag-aamok siya? Hindi ka makapunta sa trabaho kasi lahat ng co-worker mo na lalaki sineselosan niya? Makikipag-away siya? To be honest, I would rather hiwalay na lang kaysa stay sa ganitong relationship. I wish maghiwalay na lang.
@@Alyssa-ql1pt i get ur point, but we christians or even catholics, the true ones, if im in any bad positions, i would still trust God, He’s still in control and in work... pero syempre, sino ba namang gusto mamatay dba? kahit anong sufferings pa maranasan mo, at the end of the day, kahit mamatay ka, alam mong safe kana, that’s how we see life... even me, I experienced na nagaway sa harap mga magulang ko, for so many years, since i was maybe 5-7 yrs old, and still now, my family, still, they have hate planted in their heart, cuz they just cant forgive each other, which is wrong in the eyes of God, and also kahit sabihin mong hindi ka religious, pero ung magtanim ka ng galit, its still bad for ur health, psychological and mentally, which can also lead to bad health physically... ok, in terms of my fam, ung mama ko, kahit hirap na hirap na sa lahat, she still trust God in those times na sobrang hirap, i see those scenes and wala din naman ako magawa dahil bata lng naman ako that time and dont know what really life is... that is also the time na marami akong natutunan... so for me lng, i really dont agree with divorce, pero kahit maipasa yan, at ung mga katoliko o kristyanong gagawin yan, i know they’ll feel guilt or much worse, would stay away from God, since ung mga gusto nila, or lets say, ung mga desires nila is ayaw ng Diyos, at kung magkaasawa man ako, pipili muna ako ng tamang tao, at kahit anon mang problema ang mangyare, kahit onti na lng bibitaw na, i would still remember that there is God that i must follow... also don’t misunderstand, i respect other beliefs, but we share the light and word of God, we are just sharing, not forcing yall to believe in our God
Just saying. In marriage, it's not only with the love suppose to be to have to be committed. I'm no married but just seeing couples nowadays just taking the word "love" for granted. It is now over-used words but insincere. So make sure if you want to marry someone, you should be committed. You fight, you ignore each other in few hours if you are mad but commit that you would never left each other. Because in the end, you will miss the past and only regret through out your life. Because once a cheater will always be a cheater and will face more heavy consequences.😊
I agree. Commitment is a big thing when it comes to marriage. I mean, not only marriage but with every couple, commitment is a must. And I agree, the word "love" is so over-used and some of them aren't even sincere when they say the word "love".
Yes. Also, you should get to know each other well before getting married. The problem with couples today is that when they fight, their 1st solution is to get a divorce rather than try to work things out. When the butterflies in your stomachs in the next few years in your relationship start to fade, that's when you should hold tighter and remember why you got married in the first place. Love is a decision.
In my opinion instead of legalizing divorce, changes should be made in the annulment process. Such as adding cheating as grounds for annulment. Make it less expensive, more accessible and faster. And then there should be more free legal aid so victims of cheating can sue for adultery or concubinage easily as well as victims of domestic abuse. More organisations that offers aid for marriage counselling, mental health help groups, etc. Through all these the sanctity of marriage can still be preserve.
Then how about those who suffer in abusive or life-threatening relationship? Those who suffer in emotional abuse relationship? Is divorce still ILLEGAL? Please, don't just look solely on the one side. But take a look to the other side too! What you're doing here is nothing more than ignorance. I know Philippine is a religious country, but often your people forgot that God gave us the privilege to think with common sense. It's okay to be so devoted to your religion, but use your brain to; not solely depends on one side. Damn.
That is why people should take marriage seriously. Make sure you know who you are marrying.. what kind of person, family background etc You cannot just be blinded with love. When you get married it is a choice, but to stay married is a decision.
Exactly my point, make sure na cgrado kana sa kasal mo, kaya nga kayo nag vow sa harap ng simbahan at law na till death do us part e, dapat panindigan mo un, ano yan basta basta nalang mag vow tapos ganun ganun nalang, anong purpose ng pag vow mo
no matter how cautious you are when entering into commitments you're never really sure what will happen in the future. there are plenty of significant others who were great the first 10 years of a relationship and completely terrible in the next. people should have a choice to divorce
In the Philippines there is a LOT of single mothers. Some are still married on papers but living with their kids while ex have another family. Those in this situation cant do anything about it because annulment is expensive. Can you imagine that, in some countries the government protects and prioritize aid to single parents and there are laws about child support. Here in the Philippines, it is not a priority. That is the reason why many Filipino women go out of the country to work not for theirselves but for their kids.
There's no divorce in The Philippines, BUT, we have ANNULMENT, which is recognized by the Church (Canon Law) and the State (Civil Law). Under annulment, the marriage is "void ab initio" (Did not exist from the very beginning) because of legal impediments that existed prior to the marriage, e.g, when one of the parties was under duress, or when the gender orientation of one of the parties was concealed. Annulment is better than divorce because there's no actual marriage that took place. The State, Church, and the Filipino people acknowledge that conflicts and misunderstandings exist among married couples, but we do not believe these can be resolve by breaking the family as a social unit. The welfare of the children is always paramount. Both State and Church offers mediation through programs, counseling, rehabilitation, etc., with the aim of saving the marriage. "TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT." The Filipino people have very strong family values, very much like the Korean people, particularly in the early 80's (I visited South Korea in 1982). But, we cannot move our society forward by destroying families, just in the name of "progress." The problem will snowball later on, causing other social ills such as suicide, drug addiction, gambling, heinous crimes, etc. In other words, DIVORCE = MORAL DECAY. To understand The Philippines and the Filipino people about marriage and family, please feel free to read this... 👉 www.officialgazette.gov.ph/constitutions/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines-article-xv/
i am a married man for 16 years now, having 3 beautiful kids, and i can say that we have a good family relationship not such as perfect because there's no such as perfect family as we can say, but i am favor that divorce be legalized in the philippines for many reasons, it has no connection on me but to those who suffers much specially the women and children it really matters... time changes and to be able to deal the changes of time people should adopt and adjust. why to follow vatican where majority of the people living there were priest and nuns? people should broaden their minds and accept the reality brought by times....
What about those who are in an abusive marriage? Yet it is very difficult for them to get out of the situation. Why? Yes, we have nullity of marriage or annulment. But it is longer. I work as a paralegal for a law firm and we handle lots of nullity cases. And it takes YEARS to finalize or for the petition to be decided (granted or dismissed). And the same is not cheap. Minimum is at least 100,000.00php. Not everyone can afford that. While divorce is faster than nullity.
I strongly agree with you. Many are pushing for the Divorce law but what exactly is the difference with the Annulment? Is it because it is cheaper? Is it possible for the law to be ammended for it to become the cheaper process?
My parents are living separate lives but still married on paper. Even though things have been progressively better in our broken family, all of us still can't fully move on with our lives. Even though annulment is an option, it is a very painful process in a way that we have to point the blame on someone just to nullify the marriage. And we don't want that to happen. Somehow, my parents were forced to marry each other. And as the years go by, they realized they couldn't really make it work. If divorce was an option, both parties may have been fully given another chance to start anew. But since this chain called marriage has been holding us back, we couldn't fully commit to be happy strangled by lies. Our case is at not as much as heavy as domestic violence or emotional abuse, but it remains a fact that we are physically tired and emotionally scarred with the shackles of the church, the law, and society. At the end of the day, do we really not deserve to be happy? And as a child of this marriage, I just have to put it up with this unfortunate union? And that we ought to carry on this "pretend" family to grave? To those who refuse to accept these ideals, then for the love of God, do not divorce. But please make it available to those who need it. Somehow, sometime, I hope those who actually (coz you may think our situation is tolerable as it is) need it, gets it.
Make annulment more affordable and accessible to those who badly need it talaga.... Totally agree.. If ayaw nila pamurahin ang annulment.. Then divorce, yes..
PH Lawyer here! Just to enlighten some of the comments here: 1. "We don't have divorce, but we have annulment, but this is for the rich only" - False. Annulment is only available if there is a defect in the consent of the contracting parties during the marriage celebration. Even if you have all the money in the world, one cannot have access to annulment unless the grounds are: 1) Aged 18-21 when you got married but you did not acquire your parent's consent to the marriage; 2.) You were insane during the marriage ceremony; 3.) You obtained your partner's consent through fraud; 4.) You obtained your partner's consent through force, intimidation or undue influence; 5.) You are physically incapable of having sex; 6.) Or you are afflicted with an STD that is serious and incurable. Hence, even if you have money, if the following grounds are not present, annulment cannot be availed 2. If the grounds are limited to that stated above, how come James Yap and Kris Aquino were able to annul their marriage? - Technically, the term is not called annulment, rather it is called "nullity of marriage". The grounds available for this is 1. Psychological Incapacity ; 2. Incestuous marriages ( you cannot marry a relative within the 4th civil degree, pde 2nd cousins :D ); 3. Marriages contrary to public policy ( adoptor and adoptee cannot marry etc.). The ground used by James and Kris was Psychological incapacity, and this is where it can be very expensive because the process is long and you need to hire your own lawyer and psychologist to prove that the spouse is incapable of performing his/her marriage obligations 3. "We don't have divorce, but cheating is still illegal and punishable by law" - Technically yes and no, as it depends if you're married and whether you are a man or a woman. - A married woman, cannot have sex with anyone other than his own husband, otherwise they are both guilty of adultery; however, a single woman can have sex with a married man as long as they are discreet about, they will not be liable for concubinage. - A married man, can have sex with anyone as long as the girl is not married; provided that he does not bring home the girl to their marital home, he does not have sex with her in a scandalous manner, or live together with the "kabit" like husband and wife. 4. It's unfair, why is a woman charged with adultery the moment she has sex with anyone other than her own husband, but a guy can have sex with anyone as long as the girl is not married and they have sex discreetly? - It is because when a married woman has sex with a man other than his own husband, a married man will be made to raise the kid as his "own legitimate child" even though he is not truly the father. This is most glaring if the husband does not even know that her wife is cheating him for another guy. - This is not the case if it is the guy has sex with another woman that is not married, it is because he knows that he is the father, or if he has doubts can request for DNA test, and the kid is considered only as an "illegitimate child". So hindi siya blind, unlike if yung married woman ang magchecheat. 5. Why is there a need for divorce, when there is annulment and nullity of marriages? - In my honest opinion, there is a need for divorce in the Philippines, but only for the sole ground of domestic abuse. As of the moment, hindi siya pasok sa ground ng annulment and nullity, but only legal separation, which means they are separated bed and board, but they are still married in the eyes of the law. Don't you think a victim is also entitled to have a 2nd shot to be happy?
As a Filipino, there's alot of Internalized misogyny in this country. It's a woman's job to tolerate their husbands affairs bcs "at the end of the day, he still goes home to me". It's normalized but if a woman leaves him for that reason, or do the same thing to him, it's her fault. People ALWAYS point fingers on women. If your husband cheats on you, it's still your fault. One of the main reasons why divorce isn't legal (other than religious beliefs) is because men doesn't want their wives to leave them. With divorce not legalized, they could see their mistresses, have children out of wedlock, and still have someone to cook and clean for them at home. Yes, people weaponize marriage and use it to blackmail someone into not leaving them. Although some women chose to stay bcs for the kids, I feel like this new generation would rather want a broken family than live in a toxic environment and see their mother's suffocated. You could still be parents without being married, and Filipinos are having a hard time accepting that fact. Ik this happens both ways but I grew up seeing every guy have mistresses and people just making jokes out of it. It's based on my own experience. Like what they say, Hindi kompleto ang childhood mo pag walang kabet ang papa mo.
Agreed... Totally, always kawawa ang babae pag Filipino Marriages na pinaguusapan.. Kaya those who are so happy their marriages, totally won the lottery..
Marriage is only for those who can be selfless, willing to sacrifice but most of all willing to compromise, otherwise it's just convenience you are looking for... for me, there is no such thing as divorce if your intentions why you want to be married is worth fighting for or to die for...
Some people get Forced Marriage bro Tbh though I think I'm starting to believe that *"God"* didn't exist at all (lol) I don't know why though , Ik we have to follow the "Law of God" but for some reason this is actually don't make sense to me like there some marriage couple had trauma life like Domestic Abuse and cheating to other people and they should at least had a divorced for a reason ........... (Sorry for my bad grammar I'm still learning)
@@mammonthegreed am sorry to hear that, yeah, some people are forced into marriage, my mom was, too. I could have ended in a forced marriage too, but I made a choice that is, for me, the best. I am happy because it is my choice. Always pray, even though you believe in a god or not, because your prayers, your wishes, your dreams will be your mantra. It is better to believe in something than to fall for nothing.
Most Filipinos especially the elderly believes in sacred universal marriage. Especially before being separated from your husband is like a "taboo" that would tend to embarrass the wife or the husband but its more critical on the wife's side. I'm a Catholic and I say yes to divorce not just on the legal side but also on the marital side, I know many people who gets annulled with their husband cause of physical and mental abuse, and I know somehow divorce will help them. Although divorce and you want to remarry there's a process also. Its also said in the family code that in a marriage it should have mutual love and annulment has different grounds also. If divorce is penalized hopefully it has more rulling and grounds.
As someone who is born and raised Catholic, I'm also torn about this divorce bill. Maybe we can find a middle ground where we allow it under certain circumstances such as domestic violence and the abusive partner should also face jail time. I just don't like it when people take marriage lightly, just because it is easy to break away from it.
As a married Filipina for 24yrs now my priority always the welfare of my 2 kids. We've been through a lot of marital problems but we always choose to forgive and forget countlessly. But I'm pro divorce coz I believed it has a good process and reasonable conditions... at the end of the day the decisions still to the married couple. So why we should worry about the divorce..😊❤️
I just want to share my story. My parents don't have the best relationship even though they're still married now. My dad used to beat my mom almost every day since we were kids, and medyo ngstop na siya kasi may (bad) na ginawa ako when I was in highschool (attempted s***cide). I was very depressed and no one understood me that time. Nowadays, they still fight a lot, and it's hard listening to them even though I'm in my twenties. You see, when the parents are in this type of toxic relationship, it's more damaging to the child. I wished they separated earlier. When I was in elementary, I recalled my mom telling me that "We didn't separate because of you." It felt like everything bad happening was my fault. It wasn't a testament of their love for me. It seemed like I was the one holding them back. I was the reason why they were unhappy. They went to court because my dad beat my mom badly, and they both cheated because they weren't happy in the relationship. They refused to separate kasi maliit pa daw ang mga bata but the fight only got worst. It hurts so much even until now. It left a mark in my heart and mind. It makes me want not to get married. I've been so scared of committing into a relationship for years. Even now that I have a boyfriend, thinking of marriage makes me scared. To me, marriage is sacred. In the first place, before magpakasal dapat alam mo kung ano ang pinasukan mo. But I also don't want myself or others to be in marriage when all you do is hurt each other and it will hurt the child more because nag-aaway palage.
@@yuhmn Thank you. The experience shaped me to who I am today. I'm not proud of it, but I learned a lot. I wish no one will go through what I went through but I know there are countless families experiencing this especially the children. In our country, may stigma kapag hiwalay ka sa asawa mo as if malaking kasalanan. Hindi din naman kasi lumalabas ang totoong ugali ng isang karelasyon unless magasawa na kayo. Kaa dapat ten times ingat before marriage.
Hello there, I guess we have at least the same situation after all. My parents used to fight a lot when I was in high school. Most of the problems we have encountered are mostly financial. Other times, it concerns about my parents' different opinions and perspectives. My mom also told me often that the only reason she stayed in the family is because of me. At that time, I was so overwhelmed and confused if it is a good thing or a bad thing. A good thing because she doesn't want our family to be broken to bits. On the other hand, a bad thing because it seems that my parents are faking their relationship in front of me.
And Filipino elders always says this word to the young once that if you our going in to marriage you should hold your decision because marriage is not like a Rice that if you eat it and you felt the hot in your mouth..you through with no hesitation..
Commitment is what you need when you enter a relationship with someone.. For me, marriage is an important thing. That why we go into a relationship with someone to see if they're the one for you, it's like a test or sum. When you're in a relationship, commitment is a must. A lot of people use the word "love" a lot but isn't sincere. So, when you're entering a relationship, for me you have to really love that person. And when you feel like that person is the one for you, you ask them to marry you. Marriage is a very important thing. That's why no matter how hard you guys are going through or you often fight something like that, you to know that you merried that person bc you promised that they're the one for you. A lot of things, a lot of hard thing to go through. But with commitment, sincere love, and trust everything will be alr. I know you need a lot more to know ab t these stuff, and I obv know but I cannot explain it cause it's a lot. Anyway, that's all.
To add, the reason why the church encouraging all couples to enter the stage of engagement first (at least a year), through this stage you'll have time to check and contemplate on your decisions. The thing is, most of the couple are idealistic or "nangangarap ng gising" pero pag nagising na, AYUN HIWALAYAN NA! hahahha
As a Filipino, I don't really like divorce because it felt that the word marriage became a joke. That if you got tired or a fight enter in a relationship the two would seperate. It made me worry that the next generation would think that marriage is just like dating, if you think you two don't fit in then you just break up. That's the reason that dating is important before marriage to know your partner and to see if you are willing to accept him/her until you grow old. That even if the feeling gone, you are still willing to choose to stay. That even if you had some misunderstanding you are willing to converse about it, to fix things up. But if they would allow it, then they need to be properly fix the law about it. Because it would not only affect the children about their parents, also affect how they will view the marriage once they are in it. And divorce made one insecure about the stability of the relationship in your partner, so they should properly point out what need to be fix about these. Rather than that tho, I would rather that they re-adjust the law in annullment and the cost of it.
I agree, dating and marriage are starting to lose its meaning because of how media, western influence and even celebrities portrays dating and marriage most especially here in our country where most telenovelas are all about kabit kabit, it also saddens me seeing young children would roleplay those said telenovelas with complete "kabit ka lng!" and hair pulling.
I am not a filipino but agree. It is just not only there, people nowdays see marriage like a joke. Like those celebrity who married and divorce like 4 times 😶 About knowing the person, sorry, but you never "know" that person. I had a cousin, she used to have a relationship of 8 years, her so called boyfriend cheated on her. She thought that she knows him. So, i thinks its about luck 🤣
My advice: keep that belief to yourself.. But never, ever use that defense to BLOCK OTHERS WHO BADLY NEEDED IT!! If you hate the idea of divorce, then do not get one... I kid you not... Abusers knew how to hide their persona so well in the engagement years... And their rotten attitude would slowly peel off aftwr years of being married.. My family is like this and it is not good for all sides, couple and children, to just suck it up and be good... It is never good.. The integrity is already broken.. It is so hard to fix a shattered vase..
8:47 ofc Philippines is a religious country. But Filipinos were also abused, there are men and women who were abused by their partner. I myself is separated with my husband, it’s easy for people to say that we are in a religious country thus divorce shoudn’t be approved. What did she say, we should pray that divorce won’t be legalized? I think you should pray that people would learn how to respect and treasure their partners. I have been physically and mentally abused, I want to have no connection anymore with that man who made me believe that love was enough.. It’s so easy for those ✨religious✨ people to react, but don’t you know how hard it is to even look or write your last name because you always remember the person who hurt you the most? And in terms of the children - even if you don’t fight in front of your children, still your children will still feel the problem. I’d rather be alone raising my kid than face the consequences of trying to hide the problems cause in the end the the children will still face the great damages. I just hope we can get the justice, freedom and relief that we deserve. Lucky for those who’s marriages works out. But also be open for those who are hurt and in pain. Sometimes - being religious doesn’t mean you should always rely your problems to God. You should stand up for yourself, ask God for strength and courage to overcome your pain but don’t burden God with your problems.
Preach!! Halata sis.. Itong mga pa religious people na against blindly hindi alam na inaabuso sila or maswerte sa buhay dahil di nakaranas ng pangaabuso.. I am a child of mental abuse and I knew the pain.. Hope you are doing well😊
Although we don't have divorce here in the Philippines, we already has annulment but it's really expensive.. I think the government should just make some changes in the annulment than pass a divorce were it could be taken advantage by a lot of people especially with our own politicians...
I agree. Instead of legalizing divorce just make annulment less expensive and faster than it is now. Divorce being cheaper and easier to get will just lessen the sanctity of marriage. Just like one of the interviewed person said divorce will be made a reason to get married easily because they can just get divorce just as easily once the marriage got sour.
Hindi pasok sa annulment ang pambubugbog at pangangaliwa eh. Pwede sa legal separation yun pero di ka na pwedeng mag-asawa uli. Anak sa labas pa rin ang mga magiging anak mo sa iba at never kayo magiging legal na mag-asawa ng susunod mong partner.
@@kikiam7850 kaya nga po the government should just have to make some changes on the existing law which is the annulment.. at least annulment is acknowledge by the Catholic Church para wla na pong mas malaking issue...pwedi nman po nilang idagdag ang mga nabanggit mo pong mga issue para maging ground for annulment...
@@sweet_angel1274 di pwede dahil ibig sabihin ay iibahin ang ibig sabihin ng annulment. Kaya nga medieval talaga ang logic behind it. Dahil kahit inaabuso na at pinagsasamantalahan at niloloko ng paulit-ulit ay hindi pa rin grounds yun for annulment. “Pagsilbihan mo ang asawa mo”. Yan ang turo ng matatanda at katolikong simbahan. Kasama jan ang pagtitiis at pagpapatawad sa asawa ng pulit ulit. Kailangan nang gumising ng mga Pilipino.
@@kikiam7850 may punto po kayo dyan...siguro gawan nlng nang paraan ng government na mapabilis at mapa-mura ang process ng annulment... Kasi although marami sa atin ang bukas para diskusyunan ito marami pa ring agam-agam dahil na rin sa konserbatibong pananaw na kinalakhan ng nakararami sa natin.
The lack of divorce for families with abusive members is literally a cage that traps everyone involved. We can't deny that if divorce becomes legal, it will be abused, but not making it legal just robs victims of a way out. Either make divorce legal or make annulment easier. Religious reasons don't make sense when another human being is being abused by another in marriage.
I don't agree with divorce. I don't even agree with the logic that when two people who got married realize they don't fit together then they can get divorced. That's why it's so important that during the courtship stage, both man and woman would know if they'd be good to date and be in a relationship. Marriage is not a trial and error. It's a commitment not only between spouses but to God. No marriage is perfect, but two people who are willing to work things out, willing to stand on that commitment, willing to see their own flaws and even communicate and encourage their spouse can make it work... And more. I remember my dad telling me this, the feeling of love doesn't last in marriage -- what lasts and strengthens is respect that they become the best of friends. Love takes a different form and that makes marriage last.
Yep true, agree with what you said. But at least give other people options, if we dont agree with divorce then dont use it, but give other people who needs it a choice.
In my opinion, marriage is something that we should think about profoundly for it is a symbol of COMMITMENT. Petty and trivial fights will be encountered by both parties from time to time and they should try their best to find a solution and common ground because they are married and not to act on impulse and choose divorce to end the "suffering". However, if domestic abuse and violence continue to foster within one's relationship, i strongly believe that that's the time where you can file for divorce because love does not hurt; it heals.
I like that man who said that cheating is forbid by the law God and also human law. He said that he is against cheating and better to avoid it. But in fact he is having an affair with another woman and not with the woman she married. Lol
This video shows you the difference. But I like the idea of reacting and expressing their thoughts about marriage and divorce in the Philippines. Because at the end of the day, not Man, but God's Will, will always prevails.
Legalize but... Especially made or a Philippine type or kind of Devorce fit for a conservative Catholic country like the Philippines. To avoid collision of opinions and at the same time give way for those who are in a hopeless relationship.
Ya’ll here saying that not legalizing divorce will prevent cheating and adultery, but that’s already been happening to this day WITHOUT it. Adding the option of divorce to this religious country isn’t necessarily a bad thing. And not everyone can afford an annulment. You should think of the victims of domestic abuse. The victims who can’t escape because they simply cannot afford to, whether it’s financially or religiously. This is just one of the reasons why I’m glad to have been born and raised in a country that is more open-minded about religion and love in all its forms. I don’t practice the Catholic faith as I much used to, and I’ve stopped going to church. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have faith. God has a plan for all of us, that is true. But some may believe too strongly that one way is the only way, and that there is nothing after you’ve reached your supposed destination in life. But if there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that love happens more than once. The person you fall in love with and hope to be with until the end of time is NOT the only one who can be that person in your life. Some people realize that too late. Some people don’t believe in it at all. Others choose to be ignorant due to their own beliefs. But this is mine. My grandfather remarried, either before or after migrating to the U.S.. I don’t know what happened to his first wife, but I think she’s still alive and living in the Philippines with her side of the family. And I know that he loves my grandmother, his second wife, very much. And my dad and his siblings all love her as a mother. Even my great aunt and uncle, despite separating and my great uncle remarrying, are both happy despite not having resolved. And I understand that this all happened outside the Philippines, but they are still pure Filipinos that practice the Catholic faith away from their homeland and the loved ones they left behind. Becoming open-minded to options and beliefs that do in fact improve one’s situation and overall well-being is not selfish or some kind of sinful crime. What I find selfish and sinful is being unable go let go out of “love” and “faith”, all while enduring physical and emotional pain and allowing problems to fester and grow unresolved. And no, I do not believe in “one must suffer in order to…”. Love includes sacrifice, but just what are you sacrificing by allowing yourself to suffer? Because this will not only affect you, but your family and friends who cannot help you and your children who have to watch it all happen (and you can’t justify not fighting in front of the kids, because kids these days are smart af). If you can’t think of your happiness, then think of your children’s. Is it really better to live in a broken home with little chance of reconciliation? Or to live with hope and a second chance, even if it means that you won’t find love again? Because again, love comes in many forms and shapes. I personally think it’s time for the Philippines to progress even a little, whether it’s by new laws or new social culture. If ya’ll can have kids understand whether they’re LGBTQ+ or not (unlike other countries and people who are against it just as much as the PH is against divorce) then surely you’ll get somewhere. Maybe by then, we’ll have more rights for the Filipino LGBTQ+ community as well. Y’know, after trying to figure out what to do with this marriage system.
As someone who views relationships from a bigger perspective, I know how important divorce is…Unfortunately, as a Filipino (who was born in Italy), I’m aware of how religious the country is, so there’s very little I can do about it (knowing that if I expressed my pro-divorce opinions I could get judged a lot by my parents and relatives). At the end of the day, it’s their choice and it’s their life. It’s really not about the relationship that the husband and the wife have with each other, but the relationship both of them have with God. Therefore, unless there’s a change in mentality, having divorce legalised won’t be possible.
WHAT I LIVE IN THE PHILIPPINES BUT DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS WHY MY MOM IS STILL ISN'T DIVORCED!? it's been years since she and her ex-husband separated mom and that guy now have their own families also my step-sister and step-brother too are now grownups I grew up thinking that my mom probably didn't have enough money for another marriage or she find it troublesome but I didn't know they can't divorce sometimes when I do some registrations and need to put my parent's name I would be always distracted by the last name of my mom it's still his ex-husband's last name also when thinking of that I really thought it would be amazing if my mom and dad ever get married I never attended a marriage once in my life so I really imagined that scene in my mind a lot and also my 2 siblings question me sometimes about it but I also don't know the answer... it's great that I found this on my home page
"Where we're not stuck in old beliefs" true. People need to be more open minded on this topic. Its not just because "its wrong on the eyes of God", "Love" and so on. Love cant fix everything and we cant keep being caught up on made up rules or else our country will just stay where it is and not progress at all.
It's really wrong in the eyes of GOD ,we can't just pass by the one who created us and the one who created you. He sees all,He's in control for everything,that's happening. I think "religious country" is not the right term to call the ph,it will be perfect if the pH called "a country thats has a strong relationship with the true GOD who created heaven and earth" It's not just about religion it's about fearing GOD not men:)
Another, marriage is not a contract it's a marriage between man and woman who committed to love each other for the rest of their lives ,in sickness or in health etc..
Cheating is penalized in the Ph law. Many agree with divorce saying it helps the concerned parties move on and allowing them to remarry again. However have you thought of the children? When one of the partners marry another and have a family of their own, how can one make sure that the children of the previous marriage are afforded of the basic needs? Worst if both partners remarry and both is having children of their own with their new found love? Divorce just makes it easier for irresponsible adults to call it quits whenever they like without having to face the consequences of their action. Scenarios like "I love somebody else already, set me free, sign these documents" is so callous and is removed from any consequence of ones immoral decision and behavior. For families that are victims of abuse our laws has penalties for the abusive partner. They can even ask for a TOR from the brgy level or they can file a case against the abusive partner.
@@harlenehernandez3589 but not all are alleged Christians... So, please spare the god and let people choose... In the end of the day, if that couple committed sin, di naman ikaw pupunta sa hell...
wow, I had no idea divorce is illegal in the Philippines. I"m a second-generation Filipino-American, my parents and my aunt (all first generation Fil-Am) are divorced and for good reasons. In the Fil-Am community, there is a mindset that yes, marriage is sacred, but if circumstances are intolerable (and they were) then it was best to divorce and try to still be co-parents on speaking terms. The domestic abuse, infidelity, lying etc that would otherwise result--I can't imagine how much of it goes on behind closed doors in the Philippines.
In my opinion, I don't support divorce cause many people will take advantage of it but if abuses happened between them and immorality then it's on another level cause God also command that respect one another and be a great example to your children by leading to god.
Imagine being with someone for 50 years but knowing you can't divorce even though you've been cheated and abused over and over. Sounds like someone is taking advantage of the fact that you can't divorce ......since it's in the Bible that you shouldn't. What a life to live. Who cares about a broken person when people can hide behind religion.
Philippines value marriage? I mean we don't have divorce, that's true, we have annulment but it make long processes. But marriage nowadays feels like just a responsibility to do especially when your partner get pregnant and later on they still choose to separate or love at first then married but still separate. Fighting who's gonna take care their child, support. And that is almost exactly look like divorced without saying your divorce. So I don't agree anymore being conservative and sanctity in marriage here in Philippines. Some maybe still but it's starting to fade away. So I do really want Divorce to happen and those partner that abuse, and great support for child.
For me, I'm against with divorce. Why? A certain couple before making a decision in getting into that sacred union, should think twice or more. I just don't like the fact that people these days, literally have no proper communication and that would end up to misunderstandings and fights. My parents, just last 4 yrs ago they started fighting all the time, they hurt each other by saying hurtful things, but it was bc of some misunderstandings, us as their children, told them to talk it out. Now, they're fine, they're now retiring & back to being close. Bc if you don't talk it out, it will file up, & it would bring heavy feelings that would cause to a huge fight thhat would prolly end up to separation. THAT IS WHY COMMUNICATION IS THE most essential in a relationship
Sadly many couples who can’t stay married yet can’t divorce are separated and usually find new partners . If they can’t afford an annulment, they are living in sin.
Yun din inisip ng parents ko pero napaka toxic na sila. Until namatay si stepfather. Kaya pro divorce ako. Divorce is created for abusive husband/wife.
My parents are unable to communicate, especially my father… Even when I try to be super clear with my parents, they always have a reason to not listen. You’re lucky that your parents listened, but because my super religious father doesn’t take the words of her daughter seriously, there’s nothing that can be really done. All I have to do is look forward for the next fight/tantrum and see what will happen. Not everyone has the same life unfortunately, some people really need to get divorced because at a point it’s just delusions taking over their minds.
Let's be realistic. How about those abusive spouses? I don't think madadaan pa yan sa communication when their partners are already physical and mentally abusive their other half. Let these people have freedom and peace of mind They need to heal from abusive partners.
Hello guys, thanks for your respect the difference between philippines and koreans culture. I'm married for 23 years. A married couples argue sometimes because of the many reasons, but after an hour if you discuss the problem and listen to each others opinion and be open minded maybe your commitment as couple will be last long.
As expected sa mga comment section ng mga close minded Filipino, di pabor sa Divorce kasi kasalanan daw where in fact di nila iniisip ang kapakanan ng mga bata once na may mag-abuse sa isa sa dalawang parties.. Love doesn't require anything and marriage is just a paper na makakatulong sa karapatan ng both parties through their ari-arian.. Talagang both side mahihirapan kung di legalized ang divorce.. Kahit na may annulment which is more hassle maprocess..
Hindi sila nagrepresenta sa mayorya ng tao sa pilipinas. Ang mayorya dito ay bumoto kay bbm at siyay sumoporta sa divorce. Napakatalino talaga ang mayorya at napakabobo ang menorya. Sana nlng hindi nila pinilit ang kanilang kabobohan sa mayorya 😂😂😂😂😂 #bbmsara #NeverAgainToPinklawans
Instead of pushing the legality of divorce much better if we have a program on how to encourage the couple especially the young couples to strengthen their relationship. And I highly recommend na magkaron or ibalik yung GMRC sa mga bata. Legalizing divorce...is not really a good idea! Kasi instead of trying na Maisurvive pa ung mag asawa iisipin Nila mag divorce nalang agad total legal na. Baka sa susunod pa nyan I-legal narin ung pagkakaron NG maraming asawa. Opinion ko po lamag ito. We have annulment naman sa pilipinas at proseso if it's domestic abuse
I think a divorce is needed in the case of adultery. You can't expect the spouse to strengthen the relationship. Good thing our president is in favor of divorce. The Philippines will do much better with it. Filipinos are actually very smart to vote for a progressive leader like BBM. We need to change the constitution and the family code. They were made when our leader was a literal housewife.
If ever that divorce become legal here in the Phil, it's actually good specially those people who are married but mentally and physically abused by their partners.
@@shotosbaobei547 that is why change the law and the rules of annulment instead of divorce. We can do this. We should not make marriage as a play to couple that if their tired with each other, they will just file a divorce. If the other partner has a bad breath, they can file a divorce. All the grounds are covered under existing law without the need of divorce. Just make them affordable.
@@asianaticsworld9786 You cannot file annulment for domestic violence lol. Art. 45. A marriage may be annulled for any of the following causes, existing at the time of the marriage: (1) That the party in whose behalf it is sought to have the marriage annulled was eighteen years of age or over but below twenty-one, and the marriage was solemnized without the consent of the parents, guardian or person having substitute parental authority over the party, in that order, unless after attaining the age of twenty-one, such party freely cohabited with the other and both lived together as husband and wife; (2) That either party was of unsound mind, unless such party after coming to reason, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife; (3) That the consent of either party was obtained by fraud, unless such party afterwards, with full knowledge of the facts constituting the fraud, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife; (4) That the consent of either party was obtained by force, intimidation or undue influence, unless the same having disappeared or ceased, such party thereafter freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife; (5) That either party was physically incapable of consummating the marriage with the other, and such incapacity continues and appears to be incurable; or (6) That either party was afflicted with a sexually-transmissible disease found to be serious and appears to be incurable.
@@asianaticsworld9786 you also cannot add domestic violence to the grounds of divorce because as you can see, it is limited to "defects in consent during the celebration of marriage" anything that happens after that is outside the scope of annulment, hence you really need a divorce law.
For me, it's better to be together first while not married so that we know each other .. I don't agree with divorce because that will just make you cheat over and over again.
For me, I think people like you should mind your own damn business. I thank the Lord that the majority of Filipinos mind their business. This is why they would vote for a leader who supports divorce and gay marriage. Sama-sama tayo babangon muli ♥️💚♥️💚.
@@supermaldita2471 Actually, I am part of LGBT and I do not intend to marry just to divorce. I am happy that the majority of Filipinos changed their mind about these issues. Not only will there be gay marriage but also divorce. These things will never be forced on anyone. Meanwhile it is you, part of a minority, who wishes to push their dogma on others. Anyways, I can't really blame you. I place the blame on Cory Aquino. It is probably her fault that people like you exist. She basically banned divorce in the Philippines. I am glad that the Filipinos have risen once again and see the fascism from the "liberal party".
@@fla8623 That's what's hard about lgbt people. Lgbt marriage is not legal here. Just keep quiet because you are not the one with this. Then complain when you are told the wrong thing. Just be quiet so you don't get caught up in building hate in the country. Problema mag asawa yan na legal na nagpakasal.
NO TO divorce bill. .. In God's name.. .. Hindi kain na pag isinubo mong mainit iluluwa mo.. .. Imagine spiritual bonding yan sa mata ng Dios, kung ano ang hinihigpit at niluluwagan sa langit yun din sa lupa, ang batas sa langit ay ganun rin sa lupa. .. Happy 500 years of Christianity in the Philippines.. .. Long-live philippines..
That is why dont take marriage lightly, yes we Filipinos against divorce but those who says what if, we always fight, or i experience abuses, or i fall out of love.. that's why you should know your partner before getting married, marriage is not only you love each other.. its also you are ready to commit one another.. its not only your wife or husband but both of you need to commit to each other and WORK together.. if you have flaws and wrong doing, just admit it and forgive one another.. the Problem is our attitude, there is more pride in ourselves sometimes our selfish act is stronger than our responsibility and love to our Family.. you married each other, so take responsibility to what you started... But of course commitment without love is nonsense, if you love each other commit one another.. Sorry my English is bad..😁😁 I edited my comment after i talk to my husband.. i ask him what is commitment in marriage? and the last thing he said before we ended our discussion is "commitment without love is nonsense" "if you only commi to each other and there is no love that is only obligation". For me personally there is a lot of meaning of commitment but my husband is right if i love him i will be a faithful wife, that is not my obligation to him but im willing to do it because i love him and im ready to work with him for our family.
Divorce is a legal and practical way of getting out of a marriage contract. A lot of Filipinos definitely have outdated beliefs and most of them are trying to be righteous without considering the reality. Although there are laws against adultery and concubinage, there are so many married people out there who cheat. Many abuse their spouses and children and in such toxic environment, the children are sadly the most affected.
When it comes to toxic situations i feel like Annulment is much better than Divorce. If Divorce ever came to fruition a lot of people would abuse that and would use that in their own gain. There was a time when my Father and Mother were in a deep fight (when we were on a trip overseas they would fight every night) and if divorce was legal at that time, my mother would have filed for divorce then and there because she has thoughts of separating with my father even though its not legal but she didn't because of us and we were just toddlers back then. Five years later my little brother was born. I dont even want to think of what my life would be like if both my parents separated, for me it would be stressful and just imagining your parents living another life without you and with a different family is just something i could not bear.
In marriage you should always respect each other, trust each other, and don't abuse your partner, marriage is sacred, sacrifice is part of marriage, that's why you should choose the partner you want to live forever, But please don't abuse your partner, Respect, Love, Trust, and put God first to marriage,
Seeing as annulment is me thesis paper, I'll just give you lots info that most don't know. It's a fact that cheating is illegal in the Philippines BUT it will not be considered as a ground for filling an annulment THOUGH what you can do is to file for the mental traumas that person caused because that is considered as one of the grounds in annulment. Now why did I bring this up? It's because those who are against divorce are afraid that cheating might increase should divorce should be legalized. So I suggest that if divorce should legalise people can plead to make cheating as one of the grounds for divorce.
In my opinion instead of legalizing divorce, changes should be made in the annulment process. Such as adding cheating as grounds for annulment. Make it less expensive, more accessible and faster. And then there should be more free legal aid so victims of cheating can sue for adultery or concubinage easily as well as victims of domestic abuse. More organisations that offers aid for marriage counselling, mental health help groups, etc. Through all these the sanctity of marriage can still be preserve.
@@Luthien577 Can't.. Exclusive ang grounds ng annulment which is defect in the consent during the marriage celebration; cheating does not vitiate consent, kasi kahit alam mong cheater siya, you still said "I do". And even if after ng kasal mo nalang nalaman na cheater siya, it is not a defect in the consent "during the marriage celebration" kaya ang laki ng loophole sa law. So you need divorce for that.
Where did you read that cheating is illegal in the Philippines? It's not. What is illegal in the Philippines is that as a married woman, you should not have sex with anyone other than your husband; as for men, you are free to have sex with any girl as long as she is not married and you do not bring home your "kabit" in your marital home or have sex in a "scandalous manner" so that he cannot be charged with concubinage. Other than that yes, pde magkabit ang lalake basta discreet lang siya at di kasal yung kabit nya. Source: PH lawyer
@@Beck214 Philippines' law criminalizes adultery and concubinage. Both are deemed “crimes against chastity” under the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines and are treated as sexual infidelity in the Family Code. The law discriminates against wives. The crime of adultery can be committed only by a wife and her paramour. The husband need only prove that his wife had sexual intercourse with a man other than him. The crime of concubinage can be committed only by a husband and his concubine, but it requires that the wife must prove that her husband has kept a mistress in the conjugal dwelling, or has had sexual intercourse under “scandalous circumstances” or lived together with his mistress in any other place. The penalties are also quite different. For adultery, the guilty wife and her paramour may be imprisoned for up to 6 years For concubinage, the husband may be imprisoned for up to 4 years and 1 day, while his concubine may be merely “banished” but may not be imprisoned. nevertheless, the point here is Cheating is still illegal.
Philippines has Annulment but unfortunately its too expensive thats why most of them just stayed married on the papers but in fact they are separated and have other partners. Whether there's a divorce or not, it doesn't stop cheaters from committing adultery and abuse. Thats why i think its better to have divorce, its cheaper and accessible for the victims if they want to separate with their sh*tty partner.
I am definitely for divorce! We have to give people choices depending on their situation. Kung ayaw mo nmn ng divorce then wag kang mag divorce. Pero let's not hinder others na gusto neto.
A divorce law will make people care less in choosing their partner. A family is the most basic part of a society that is why we are protecting its sanctity.These people, who chose each other willingly, as much as possible must work their marriage. It is also a way of protecting the children who is our next generation.if you have an abusive partner, file VAWC and annul. If you want divorce? Marry outside the Philippines
We dont live in fairytales,.,. Kada araw ang tao nag babago,.,. So i guess we better give chances to other broken families by searching the people that is meant for them,.,
Its case to case basis , pero hopefully mapagtibay yung education about "marriage love and sex" sa philippines . Maraming pumapasok sa relationship pero di panaman talaga handa ang weight ng marriage.
Marriage for me is important, we will bow Infront of our god and promise together to fight and love each others differences. Being a lady marriage is very important from us, it will became a new door for us to be able to grow and make anew life for our family. CHEATING IS A CHOICE but for me MARRIAGE IS A PROMISE TO BE FULLFIL.
Kaya nga sabi ng matatanda "Ang pag-aasawa ay hindi kagaya ng kanin na mainit na kapag sinubo mo at napaso ka ay iluluwa mo" Ngayon kasi ginagawa nalang biro ng iba yung pagpapakasal. Nakaramdam lang ng spark or slow mo ay akala true love na agad, tapos magpapakasal na agad..
Getting married is really complex for almost all of us. You'll never really know someone until both of you will live in one house. Problems on marriage is normal and it seems like marriage isn't the same as before. Some aren't even sure but still get married for whatever reason. It takes a lot of courage and patience to be married. Once you're married it should be both of you who will do everything to make the relationship work. There are CONS and PROS on lots of things. There are people who have reasons why they would like DIVORCE to be legal in Philippines and I respect that.
Funny thing is since divorce system doesn't exist, people tend to lean more towards annulment. To which one or most claimed of its requirement in order to be granted is the clause for *PSYCHOLOGICAL INCAPACITY* In simpler term, people go as far as claim the other is *iNsAnE* OR claim it as them being insane lmao
As a Filipino 13 years old kid, i agree with divorce cause i cant see my parents fight anymore for the past 13 years of my life,it has been affecting both my mental and physical health,my studies, aswell i cant sleep in time, i dont understand why its illegal to divorce, because some people is having a hard time with their relationship and having many problems, they should allow us Filipino to be divorced as we say, because sometimes things can be abusive now and not working out very properly.
In my opinion for divorce as a filipino is not a problem because change cant be stop but i think because we are catholic and a lot of couples get married in the church even if we have annulment in the phillipines it can only separate the couple in papers but not in the church..that is why i really want to get married in the civil way than in church but then again like what our elders says.."marriage is not like a hot rice that if you get burn you could just spit it out" that is why think a million times before getting married and be matured enough to be as a married couple and future parents because in a separation of parents, children are the most affected not the parents.
eto ay ayon lang saaking opinyon Ang kasal or Ang pagpapakasal ay Responsibilidad na kaylangan panindigan ng Pang habang buhay kaya kung meron kayong kinakasama ngayon at inaya kayo magpakasal isipin mong mabuti yung Hinaharap like kung sya ba talaga? Eto na ba yung tamang oras para sa mga bagay na yon? in short wag padalosdalos sa mga desisyon sa buhay iisipin mo rin yung hinaharap hindi lang kasi (Pagmamahal) ang kailang ng Magasawa kundi kailangan din na nakikita mo na may seguridad ang hinaharap finacial support yung taong kahit sabihin nating Hindi mayaman pero may tiyaga at kaya kayong buhayin. Sa nakikita ko lang rin No1 na pinagtatalunan ng Magasawa ang pera. in long explanation to be short sana magiingat kayo sa pakakasalan nyo at hindi padalos² sa mga desisyon dahil bawat hakbang ng desisyon nyo ay makakaapekto sa hinaharap at magiging mga anak nyo.
Well for me,. Dapat meronng divorce kasi what if di mag work out sa huli ang relasyon or may temptation,.,. Nagiging bad influence lng sa mga bata if toxic ang rwlationship ng mga magulang,.,. We should respect each others choices nalng,.,. Kc a lot of cases na rin ng abuses, at third party,.,
Get an annulment,nagdecide kayo na magsama habang buhay,pangatawanan mo. Kung di mo naman na kaya yan physical and mental abuse kuha annulment,mahal at matagal lang talaga. pa
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There are a lot of people that doesn't want the law to pass, why? They still have the colonial thinking of once the marriage is consumed, they need to endure each other for the rest of their lives. Left are people like me that never wanted to get married but since I respected my parents and bonded myself to someone I didn't love. Now, everything I do in legal matters, the person I married goes along with it and for that, I will never get to be free in things I want to do. Divorce should be passed but still be more stringent in implementing it.
If marriage was made accessible like any commercial good, and become like any good which is replaceable and disposable, then what is the standard for love? Divorce cheapens love. The difference with other religions, is that it is a sacrament for catholics, not just a contract to make a family. They should not have married in the first place. It is not that we need divorce but the procedure to marry should be made difficult to prevent those who are not ready for it. Our problem is that we think we always need to fix/replace/dispose things that no longer work. That when things go awry, you should have a way out. Not in all cases. The best solution is to build it stronger and better from the start. Marriage should be approached like that. If you have a mindset of looking for an exit just as you are about to enter, then you are not ready for the long haul.
As a filipino and a kid who witnessed my mom go thru the painful annulment process just to get away from pos father, I absolutely agree with divorce. We were lower middle class back then and the annulment process costed over ₱200,000 as stated on one of the files I read while helping my mom arranged her stuff. I don’t even know if the cost of the lawyer was already in there but she just wanted to get away. My father and his family tried gaslighting her that she should respect the “sAnCtItY” of marriage when he was the one who cheated over and over with an added bonus of not coming home for weeks essentially forgetting us. My mom strived really hard and now she happier and stronger than ever. what more could I ask? You can say that my mom should’ve known before they even got married but people lie, they can fake it until they’ve reached their goal and once they’ve succeeded it is only you who’ll suffer.
Passing the divorce law doesn't automatically make the Philippines a progressive country, if anything, it might cause more problems. Marriage is sacred and one should consider it with heavy responsibility. My parents have been married for more than 25 yrs and I can see as I grew up that their marriagr is not perfect. Theyy fight sometimes but they also reconcile. Love is not sustainable. That is why it is a choice to love your spouse over the years. If the love is lost, make effort to renew it. Go on dates, give roses or kisses. Don't let an arguement go on till the next morning. Talk it out like proper adult. Divorce would only make marriage a joke.
you're only speaking for your experiences. what about other people's? those who experience domestic abuse? rape? the children who only see their parents arguing and fighting? the reality is not everyone has the same experiences as you. some have it worse, some have it better. you have to consider these situations, too. you saying divorce would make marriage a joke is proof of how ignorant you are
What works for your family does not work for everyone else. Just cause you're parents were able to resolve their issue and preserve their marriage doesn't mean that everyone can. If you're constantly abused and taken advantage of continuously, wouldn't you leave?
@@shynne3789, the annulment law isn't as good as you think; it only invalidates the marriage. The key difference between annulment and divorce is that in Divorce, the children's circumstances are considered as well as compensation for the incurred damages from the abuser, regardless of Gender.
I'm not against it. I'm happy if that will be approved ,because it give chances to those who is really abuse specially emotional and physical abuse,so they can get a chance to have a partner that makes them happy even a short time,. I know that not everyone will get what I said but it's just my opinion
World is not perfect, no one is perfect… so lets say the person you want to marry seems all great , but after marriage he/she becomes abusive. So divorce should still be illegal?? There are lots of people in terrible relationships with psychos as their partner / spouse, who abuses physically and mentally! Sorry I find it crazy that some people are against divorce even when there is abusive involved, just sayin’ 🤷♀️
So true. That is why I thank the majority of the Filipinos who voted for BBM. We need progressive leaders who will push the nation forward. Aside from Divorce, we need to be more open to other progressive policies such as that of Nuclear Energy powerplants.
Same lang nman po sa annulment yan.di porke may divorce bill lahat na magdidivorce.mahal pa din ang proseso at di nman lahat may pera.pr lang din sa may pera yan o sa middle class.kaya anong prob if ipasa ang divorce bill
"In a way, our laws are just made for the rich. We have to improve our judiciary system so that the poor and rich are viewed equally on front of the law. I think this would be a good step towards becoming a progressive country" - real talk (this is out of the topic but I just want to let others know the reality) Kapag ang mayayaman (o galing sa kilala na pamilya) yung gumawa ng masama ay binabalewala lang. Pero, kapag yung mahihirap ay tinotorture pa at sagad na sagad yung pinaparusa. Dapat talaga pantay-pantay ang pagtrato, mahirap man o mayaman. Kung sino po ang mahirap ay siya pa yung mas lalong pinapahirapan kesa sa mayayaman.. let's be fair..
Thats why we filipinos strongly valued our families.. try everything to make it better and stay as long as we can... At some point divorce bill shuold be taken place too.. because people are not certain about decision making.. and i think one values will be affected specially on a childs mind when it saw thier parents never love each other but cant do things to be settled for thier family...
The funny thing about this issue is that we Filipinos really value the sanctity of marriage, but tend to have a lot of cases involving marital disputes and most of these disputes are about third party relationships.
When there's no respect in a any relationship, why stay. It takes 2 to work it out.....never just one, otherwise, you will live a lie for the rest of your life and that's not a life.
This is no longer an issue anymore since some partners are living together without getting married. If they are married, i think they do believe in the sanctity of marriage. Or they just married for money or for other wrong reason. Again, there's annulment. And people still can choose to get separated without getting divorce. So why divorce? they only insist this because of the properties. To remove the conjugality of their properties. So again and again, divorce are only for rich. They don't really care about the domestic abuse. Victims of domestic abuse still cannot afford divorce. Most of them are women who are abuse physically but no work on their own. Where will they get their money for divorce or annulment then?
* value the sanctity * meaning "Italy"(where Vatican is) doesn't value sanctity, divorce is legal. Annulment is along process & expensive, while divorce is shorter & cheaper. So, the bottomline "MONEY GREED & MAKES YOU BLEED"
Cheating is penalized in Ph law.
legit!!
As a kid, I agree with divorce. I hate seeing my parents fight for the past 10 years. It’s affecting my mental health. Since, I’m the oldest I get to see everything on how they fight. My dad was even put in rehab bcs he tried to kill my mom back when I was 5. This past few months I’ve seen messages of my dad’s mistress
Me too
Fighting for 10yrs? Then you are waiting for the divorce to happen because you're hoping na matitigil ng divorce ang pagaaway nila? So until now nagaaway prin sila.. I guess..kc wula pang divorce sa PH.. PAg nagkaron nba ng divorce sa PH you think na it will also not affect the mental health of the child/children? Either way, maapektuhan tlg ang mga anak kung mgaing legal or hindi ang divorce. They can live sepArately. Mahal kc annulment kaya ang iba naghhwlaay nlng tas live in nlng dun sa mga bago nilnag partner. Divroce nirerecognize prin ksal at may mga condiciones like sustento etc.
How about your mental health? sa mga bully mong nakakasalamuha kung bata kapa, pero pag age 20s kana siguro mas maiintindihan mo pa
@@jen8932 I understand you. We react differently. But what about if it's already life-threatening? Paulit-ulit na lang? what if umaabot na sa point na hahabulin ka na ng itak? bubuhusan ka ng kakaluto lang na sabaw? Ipapahiya ka sa publiko? What if traumatic na masyado na pati mismo ang mga bata ay nasasaktan na physically? What if pati ang mga bata ay lumalaban na para sa abused parent nila? What if umabot na kayo sa korte because of physical abuse? What if ilang beses na siyang pabalik-balik sa presinto dahil sa pagwawala niya pinapatawad mo pa din? What if lahat na lang pinagseselosan, umaabot na sa point na nag-aamok siya? Hindi ka makapunta sa trabaho kasi lahat ng co-worker mo na lalaki sineselosan niya? Makikipag-away siya? To be honest, I would rather hiwalay na lang kaysa stay sa ganitong relationship. I wish maghiwalay na lang.
@@Alyssa-ql1pt i get ur point, but we christians or even catholics, the true ones, if im in any bad positions, i would still trust God, He’s still in control and in work... pero syempre, sino ba namang gusto mamatay dba? kahit anong sufferings pa maranasan mo, at the end of the day, kahit mamatay ka, alam mong safe kana, that’s how we see life... even me, I experienced na nagaway sa harap mga magulang ko, for so many years, since i was maybe 5-7 yrs old, and still now, my family, still, they have hate planted in their heart, cuz they just cant forgive each other, which is wrong in the eyes of God, and also kahit sabihin mong hindi ka religious, pero ung magtanim ka ng galit, its still bad for ur health, psychological and mentally, which can also lead to bad health physically... ok, in terms of my fam, ung mama ko, kahit hirap na hirap na sa lahat, she still trust God in those times na sobrang hirap, i see those scenes and wala din naman ako magawa dahil bata lng naman ako that time and dont know what really life is... that is also the time na marami akong natutunan... so for me lng, i really dont agree with divorce, pero kahit maipasa yan, at ung mga katoliko o kristyanong gagawin yan, i know they’ll feel guilt or much worse, would stay away from God, since ung mga gusto nila, or lets say, ung mga desires nila is ayaw ng Diyos, at kung magkaasawa man ako, pipili muna ako ng tamang tao, at kahit anon mang problema ang mangyare, kahit onti na lng bibitaw na, i would still remember that there is God that i must follow... also don’t misunderstand, i respect other beliefs, but we share the light and word of God, we are just sharing, not forcing yall to believe in our God
Just saying. In marriage, it's not only with the love suppose to be to have to be committed. I'm no married but just seeing couples nowadays just taking the word "love" for granted. It is now over-used words but insincere. So make sure if you want to marry someone, you should be committed. You fight, you ignore each other in few hours if you are mad but commit that you would never left each other. Because in the end, you will miss the past and only regret through out your life. Because once a cheater will always be a cheater and will face more heavy consequences.😊
I agree. Commitment is a big thing when it comes to marriage. I mean, not only marriage but with every couple, commitment is a must. And I agree, the word "love" is so over-used and some of them aren't even sincere when they say the word "love".
Yes. Also, you should get to know each other well before getting married. The problem with couples today is that when they fight, their 1st solution is to get a divorce rather than try to work things out. When the butterflies in your stomachs in the next few years in your relationship start to fade, that's when you should hold tighter and remember why you got married in the first place. Love is a decision.
That's why when you get married. set Jesus as the center of your love before, then everything will be follows, like love, faithfulness, kind, loyalty.
@@donnamp1826 yes!!!
@@Emzieboy amen! Facts.
In my opinion instead of legalizing divorce, changes should be made in the annulment process. Such as adding cheating as grounds for annulment. Make it less expensive, more accessible and faster.
And then there should be more free legal aid so victims of cheating can sue for adultery or concubinage easily as well as victims of domestic abuse.
More organisations that offers aid for marriage counselling, mental health help groups, etc.
Through all these the sanctity of marriage can still be preserve.
Fr I agree with you
Then how about those who suffer in abusive or life-threatening relationship? Those who suffer in emotional abuse relationship? Is divorce still ILLEGAL? Please, don't just look solely on the one side. But take a look to the other side too! What you're doing here is nothing more than ignorance. I know Philippine is a religious country, but often your people forgot that God gave us the privilege to think with common sense. It's okay to be so devoted to your religion, but use your brain to; not solely depends on one side. Damn.
@@gumblewobble9033 yes
Tama po,, huwag lang divorce law dahil kawawa ang mga bata at bawal sa Diyos God bless
@@rolandoa.predesjr.728 yes to divorce
Fact:
No divorce in the Philippines. However, cheating within marriage is considered a criminal act that can be penalized.
Philippines has annulment.
if only annulment is accessible/affordable...
@@kristangrande8338 you said it.
@@kristangrande8338 tama...feel ko if di accessible and affordable ang divorce parang "ngek" moment.😅
@@karmacanquints4222 rightt like what's the point?
What about Filipinos who believe in other religions that allow for them to get divorce..!!!. Can they practice their right...?!
That is why people should take marriage seriously. Make sure you know who you are marrying.. what kind of person, family background etc
You cannot just be blinded with love. When you get married it is a choice, but to stay married is a decision.
Yes, exactly.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly my point, make sure na cgrado kana sa kasal mo, kaya nga kayo nag vow sa harap ng simbahan at law na till death do us part e, dapat panindigan mo un, ano yan basta basta nalang mag vow tapos ganun ganun nalang, anong purpose ng pag vow mo
no matter how cautious you are when entering into commitments you're never really sure what will happen in the future. there are plenty of significant others who were great the first 10 years of a relationship and completely terrible in the next. people should have a choice to divorce
@@cheskanoronha5889 yes to divorce
In the Philippines there is a LOT of single mothers. Some are still married on papers but living with their kids while ex have another family. Those in this situation cant do anything about it because annulment is expensive. Can you imagine that, in some countries the government protects and prioritize aid to single parents and there are laws about child support. Here in the Philippines, it is not a priority. That is the reason why many Filipino women go out of the country to work not for theirselves but for their kids.
There's no divorce in The Philippines, BUT, we have ANNULMENT, which is recognized by the Church (Canon Law) and the State (Civil Law). Under annulment, the marriage is "void ab initio" (Did not exist from the very beginning) because of legal impediments that existed prior to the marriage, e.g, when one of the parties was under duress, or when the gender orientation of one of the parties was concealed. Annulment is better than divorce because there's no actual marriage that took place. The State, Church, and the Filipino people acknowledge that conflicts and misunderstandings exist among married couples, but we do not believe these can be resolve by breaking the family as a social unit. The welfare of the children is always paramount. Both State and Church offers mediation through programs, counseling, rehabilitation, etc., with the aim of saving the marriage. "TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT." The Filipino people have very strong family values, very much like the Korean people, particularly in the early 80's (I visited South Korea in 1982). But, we cannot move our society forward by destroying families, just in the name of "progress." The problem will snowball later on, causing other social ills such as suicide, drug addiction, gambling, heinous crimes, etc. In other words, DIVORCE = MORAL DECAY. To understand The Philippines and the Filipino people about marriage and family, please feel free to read this... 👉 www.officialgazette.gov.ph/constitutions/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines-article-xv/
Thank you for this.
i am a married man for 16 years now, having 3 beautiful kids, and i can say that we have a good family relationship not such as perfect because there's no such as perfect family as we can say, but i am favor that divorce be legalized in the philippines for many reasons, it has no connection on me but to those who suffers much specially the women and children it really matters... time changes and to be able to deal the changes of time people should adopt and adjust. why to follow vatican where majority of the people living there were priest and nuns? people should broaden their minds and accept the reality brought by times....
What about those who are in an abusive marriage? Yet it is very difficult for them to get out of the situation. Why? Yes, we have nullity of marriage or annulment. But it is longer. I work as a paralegal for a law firm and we handle lots of nullity cases. And it takes YEARS to finalize or for the petition to be decided (granted or dismissed). And the same is not cheap. Minimum is at least 100,000.00php. Not everyone can afford that. While divorce is faster than nullity.
People here can get married easily. I think getting married should be harder for people to get
I strongly agree with you. Many are pushing for the Divorce law but what exactly is the difference with the Annulment? Is it because it is cheaper? Is it possible for the law to be ammended for it to become the cheaper process?
My parents are living separate lives but still married on paper. Even though things have been progressively better in our broken family, all of us still can't fully move on with our lives.
Even though annulment is an option, it is a very painful process in a way that we have to point the blame on someone just to nullify the marriage. And we don't want that to happen.
Somehow, my parents were forced to marry each other. And as the years go by, they realized they couldn't really make it work.
If divorce was an option, both parties may have been fully given another chance to start anew. But since this chain called marriage has been holding us back, we couldn't fully commit to be happy strangled by lies.
Our case is at not as much as heavy as domestic violence or emotional abuse, but it remains a fact that we are physically tired and emotionally scarred with the shackles of the church, the law, and society.
At the end of the day, do we really not deserve to be happy? And as a child of this marriage, I just have to put it up with this unfortunate union? And that we ought to carry on this "pretend" family to grave?
To those who refuse to accept these ideals, then for the love of God, do not divorce. But please make it available to those who need it. Somehow, sometime, I hope those who actually (coz you may think our situation is tolerable as it is) need it, gets it.
Just like annul…
Make annulment more affordable and accessible to those who badly need it talaga....
Totally agree.. If ayaw nila pamurahin ang annulment.. Then divorce, yes..
Same here...
PH Lawyer here! Just to enlighten some of the comments here:
1. "We don't have divorce, but we have annulment, but this is for the rich only"
- False. Annulment is only available if there is a defect in the consent of the contracting parties during the marriage celebration. Even if you have all the money in the world, one cannot have access to annulment unless the grounds are: 1) Aged 18-21 when you got married but you did not acquire your parent's consent to the marriage; 2.) You were insane during the marriage ceremony; 3.) You obtained your partner's consent through fraud; 4.) You obtained your partner's consent through force, intimidation or undue influence; 5.) You are physically incapable of having sex; 6.) Or you are afflicted with an STD that is serious and incurable. Hence, even if you have money, if the following grounds are not present, annulment cannot be availed
2. If the grounds are limited to that stated above, how come James Yap and Kris Aquino were able to annul their marriage?
- Technically, the term is not called annulment, rather it is called "nullity of marriage". The grounds available for this is 1. Psychological Incapacity ; 2. Incestuous marriages ( you cannot marry a relative within the 4th civil degree, pde 2nd cousins :D ); 3. Marriages contrary to public policy ( adoptor and adoptee cannot marry etc.).
The ground used by James and Kris was Psychological incapacity, and this is where it can be very expensive because the process is long and you need to hire your own lawyer and psychologist to prove that the spouse is incapable of performing his/her marriage obligations
3. "We don't have divorce, but cheating is still illegal and punishable by law"
- Technically yes and no, as it depends if you're married and whether you are a man or a woman.
- A married woman, cannot have sex with anyone other than his own husband, otherwise they are both guilty of adultery; however, a single woman can have sex with a married man as long as they are discreet about, they will not be liable for concubinage.
- A married man, can have sex with anyone as long as the girl is not married; provided that he does not bring home the girl to their marital home, he does not have sex with her in a scandalous manner, or live together with the "kabit" like husband and wife.
4. It's unfair, why is a woman charged with adultery the moment she has sex with anyone other than her own husband, but a guy can have sex with anyone as long as the girl is not married and they have sex discreetly?
- It is because when a married woman has sex with a man other than his own husband, a married man will be made to raise the kid as his "own legitimate child" even though he is not truly the father. This is most glaring if the husband does not even know that her wife is cheating him for another guy.
- This is not the case if it is the guy has sex with another woman that is not married, it is because he knows that he is the father, or if he has doubts can request for DNA test, and the kid is considered only as an "illegitimate child". So hindi siya blind, unlike if yung married woman ang magchecheat.
5. Why is there a need for divorce, when there is annulment and nullity of marriages?
- In my honest opinion, there is a need for divorce in the Philippines, but only for the sole ground of domestic abuse. As of the moment, hindi siya pasok sa ground ng annulment and nullity, but only legal separation, which means they are separated bed and board, but they are still married in the eyes of the law. Don't you think a victim is also entitled to have a 2nd shot to be happy?
I think what he means by “annulment is for the rich only” is that even if the grounds for annulment are present, poor people can’t afford it.
As a Filipino, there's alot of Internalized misogyny in this country. It's a woman's job to tolerate their husbands affairs bcs "at the end of the day, he still goes home to me". It's normalized but if a woman leaves him for that reason, or do the same thing to him, it's her fault. People ALWAYS point fingers on women. If your husband cheats on you, it's still your fault. One of the main reasons why divorce isn't legal (other than religious beliefs) is because men doesn't want their wives to leave them. With divorce not legalized, they could see their mistresses, have children out of wedlock, and still have someone to cook and clean for them at home. Yes, people weaponize marriage and use it to blackmail someone into not leaving them. Although some women chose to stay bcs for the kids, I feel like this new generation would rather want a broken family than live in a toxic environment and see their mother's suffocated. You could still be parents without being married, and Filipinos are having a hard time accepting that fact.
Ik this happens both ways but I grew up seeing every guy have mistresses and people just making jokes out of it. It's based on my own experience. Like what they say, Hindi kompleto ang childhood mo pag walang kabet ang papa mo.
Agreed... Totally, always kawawa ang babae pag Filipino Marriages na pinaguusapan.. Kaya those who are so happy their marriages, totally won the lottery..
Women also cheat. It is not just men.
Agree
Kapag natupad Ang divorce dito sa pinas for sure babae Ang maging kawawa Kasi anytime pwede kang Ewan ng asawa mo Lalo na kung marami pa kayong anak
@@malunesgraciel8764 siguro kasama na din sa usapan ng divorce ang custody at child support kaya I think divorce should be legal
Marriage is only for those who can be selfless, willing to sacrifice but most of all willing to compromise, otherwise it's just convenience you are looking for... for me, there is no such thing as divorce if your intentions why you want to be married is worth fighting for or to die for...
Yes 🙌🏻
Exactly
Grabe kinilabutan ako sa comment mo. Well said
Some people get Forced Marriage bro Tbh though I think I'm starting to believe that *"God"* didn't exist at all (lol) I don't know why though , Ik we have to follow the "Law of God" but for some reason this is actually don't make sense to me like there some marriage couple had trauma life like Domestic Abuse and cheating to other people and they should at least had a divorced for a reason ...........
(Sorry for my bad grammar I'm still learning)
@@mammonthegreed am sorry to hear that, yeah, some people are forced into marriage, my mom was, too. I could have ended in a forced marriage too, but I made a choice that is, for me, the best. I am happy because it is my choice. Always pray, even though you believe in a god or not, because your prayers, your wishes, your dreams will be your mantra. It is better to believe in something than to fall for nothing.
Most Filipinos especially the elderly believes in sacred universal marriage. Especially before being separated from your husband is like a "taboo" that would tend to embarrass the wife or the husband but its more critical on the wife's side. I'm a Catholic and I say yes to divorce not just on the legal side but also on the marital side, I know many people who gets annulled with their husband cause of physical and mental abuse, and I know somehow divorce will help them. Although divorce and you want to remarry there's a process also. Its also said in the family code that in a marriage it should have mutual love and annulment has different grounds also. If divorce is penalized hopefully it has more rulling and grounds.
As someone who is born and raised Catholic, I'm also torn about this divorce bill. Maybe we can find a middle ground where we allow it under certain circumstances such as domestic violence and the abusive partner should also face jail time. I just don't like it when people take marriage lightly, just because it is easy to break away from it.
As a married Filipina for 24yrs now my priority always the welfare of my 2 kids. We've been through a lot of marital problems but we always choose to forgive and forget countlessly. But I'm pro divorce coz I believed it has a good process and reasonable conditions... at the end of the day the decisions still to the married couple. So why we should worry about the divorce..😊❤️
I just want to share my story. My parents don't have the best relationship even though they're still married now.
My dad used to beat my mom almost every day since we were kids, and medyo ngstop na siya kasi may (bad) na ginawa ako when I was in highschool (attempted s***cide). I was very depressed and no one understood me that time. Nowadays, they still fight a lot, and it's hard listening to them even though I'm in my twenties.
You see, when the parents are in this type of toxic relationship, it's more damaging to the child. I wished they separated earlier. When I was in elementary, I recalled my mom telling me that "We didn't separate because of you." It felt like everything bad happening was my fault. It wasn't a testament of their love for me. It seemed like I was the one holding them back. I was the reason why they were unhappy.
They went to court because my dad beat my mom badly, and they both cheated because they weren't happy in the relationship. They refused to separate kasi maliit pa daw ang mga bata but the fight only got worst. It hurts so much even until now. It left a mark in my heart and mind. It makes me want not to get married. I've been so scared of committing into a relationship for years. Even now that I have a boyfriend, thinking of marriage makes me scared.
To me, marriage is sacred. In the first place, before magpakasal dapat alam mo kung ano ang pinasukan mo. But I also don't want myself or others to be in marriage when all you do is hurt each other and it will hurt the child more because nag-aaway palage.
I'm soooo sorry you had to go through that i hope you can live better life in the future love you
@@yuhmn Thank you. The experience shaped me to who I am today. I'm not proud of it, but I learned a lot. I wish no one will go through what I went through but I know there are countless families experiencing this especially the children. In our country, may stigma kapag hiwalay ka sa asawa mo as if malaking kasalanan. Hindi din naman kasi lumalabas ang totoong ugali ng isang karelasyon unless magasawa na kayo. Kaa dapat ten times ingat before marriage.
Yes. Don't get married
Marriage is not for everyone
Hello there, I guess we have at least the same situation after all. My parents used to fight a lot when I was in high school. Most of the problems we have encountered are mostly financial. Other times, it concerns about my parents' different opinions and perspectives. My mom also told me often that the only reason she stayed in the family is because of me. At that time, I was so overwhelmed and confused if it is a good thing or a bad thing. A good thing because she doesn't want our family to be broken to bits. On the other hand, a bad thing because it seems that my parents are faking their relationship in front of me.
And Filipino elders always says this word to the young once that if you our going in to marriage you should hold your decision because marriage is not like a Rice that if you eat it and you felt the hot in your mouth..you through with no hesitation..
Thisss
Commitment is what you need when you enter a relationship with someone.. For me, marriage is an important thing. That why we go into a relationship with someone to see if they're the one for you, it's like a test or sum. When you're in a relationship, commitment is a must. A lot of people use the word "love" a lot but isn't sincere. So, when you're entering a relationship, for me you have to really love that person. And when you feel like that person is the one for you, you ask them to marry you. Marriage is a very important thing. That's why no matter how hard you guys are going through or you often fight something like that, you to know that you merried that person bc you promised that they're the one for you. A lot of things, a lot of hard thing to go through. But with commitment, sincere love, and trust everything will be alr. I know you need a lot more to know ab t these stuff, and I obv know but I cannot explain it cause it's a lot. Anyway, that's all.
To add, the reason why the church encouraging all couples to enter the stage of engagement first (at least a year), through this stage you'll have time to check and contemplate on your decisions.
The thing is, most of the couple are idealistic or "nangangarap ng gising" pero pag nagising na, AYUN HIWALAYAN NA! hahahha
Yeah exactly why getting married in the first place if you're not sure that that person is the right one for you
As a Filipino, I don't really like divorce because it felt that the word marriage became a joke. That if you got tired or a fight enter in a relationship the two would seperate.
It made me worry that the next generation would think that marriage is just like dating, if you think you two don't fit in then you just break up.
That's the reason that dating is important before marriage to know your partner and to see if you are willing to accept him/her until you grow old. That even if the feeling gone, you are still willing to choose to stay. That even if you had some misunderstanding you are willing to converse about it, to fix things up.
But if they would allow it, then they need to be properly fix the law about it. Because it would not only affect the children about their parents, also affect how they will view the marriage once they are in it. And divorce made one insecure about the stability of the relationship in your partner, so they should properly point out what need to be fix about these.
Rather than that tho, I would rather that they re-adjust the law in annullment and the cost of it.
I agree!
I agree, dating and marriage are starting to lose its meaning because of how media, western influence and even celebrities portrays dating and marriage most especially here in our country where most telenovelas are all about kabit kabit, it also saddens me seeing young children would roleplay those said telenovelas with complete "kabit ka lng!" and hair pulling.
Yes not until your husband or wife cheats....lols
I am not a filipino but agree. It is just not only there, people nowdays see marriage like a joke. Like those celebrity who married and divorce like 4 times 😶
About knowing the person, sorry, but you never "know" that person.
I had a cousin, she used to have a relationship of 8 years, her so called boyfriend cheated on her. She thought that she knows him. So, i thinks its about luck 🤣
My advice: keep that belief to yourself.. But never, ever use that defense to BLOCK OTHERS WHO BADLY NEEDED IT!! If you hate the idea of divorce, then do not get one...
I kid you not... Abusers knew how to hide their persona so well in the engagement years... And their rotten attitude would slowly peel off aftwr years of being married.. My family is like this and it is not good for all sides, couple and children, to just suck it up and be good... It is never good.. The integrity is already broken.. It is so hard to fix a shattered vase..
I agree with divorce. If my partner cheats on me, I'm out of that relationship no matter what.
You can get annulment cheating is penalized in the Philippines 🇵🇭
But what is done to penalize in Philippines to stop cheating continuously? Obviously not enough as so many do it.
Once a cheater, is always a cheater.... Agreed..
True that !!
@@annajens3696 put them to jail? Never give them the happiness they sought?
8:47 ofc Philippines is a religious country. But Filipinos were also abused, there are men and women who were abused by their partner. I myself is separated with my husband, it’s easy for people to say that we are in a religious country thus divorce shoudn’t be approved. What did she say, we should pray that divorce won’t be legalized? I think you should pray that people would learn how to respect and treasure their partners. I have been physically and mentally abused, I want to have no connection anymore with that man who made me believe that love was enough.. It’s so easy for those ✨religious✨ people to react, but don’t you know how hard it is to even look or write your last name because you always remember the person who hurt you the most?
And in terms of the children - even if you don’t fight in front of your children, still your children will still feel the problem. I’d rather be alone raising my kid than face the consequences of trying to hide the problems cause in the end the the children will still face the great damages. I just hope we can get the justice, freedom and relief that we deserve. Lucky for those who’s marriages works out. But also be open for those who are hurt and in pain. Sometimes - being religious doesn’t mean you should always rely your problems to God. You should stand up for yourself, ask God for strength and courage to overcome your pain but don’t burden God with your problems.
Preach!!
Halata sis.. Itong mga pa religious people na against blindly hindi alam na inaabuso sila or maswerte sa buhay dahil di nakaranas ng pangaabuso..
I am a child of mental abuse and I knew the pain.. Hope you are doing well😊
Sana po mas maayos na buhay niyo ngayon. 🌷🌸
Although we don't have divorce here in the Philippines, we already has annulment but it's really expensive.. I think the government should just make some changes in the annulment than pass a divorce were it could be taken advantage by a lot of people especially with our own politicians...
I agree. Instead of legalizing divorce just make annulment less expensive and faster than it is now. Divorce being cheaper and easier to get will just lessen the sanctity of marriage. Just like one of the interviewed person said divorce will be made a reason to get married easily because they can just get divorce just as easily once the marriage got sour.
Hindi pasok sa annulment ang pambubugbog at pangangaliwa eh. Pwede sa legal separation yun pero di ka na pwedeng mag-asawa uli. Anak sa labas pa rin ang mga magiging anak mo sa iba at never kayo magiging legal na mag-asawa ng susunod mong partner.
@@kikiam7850 kaya nga po the government should just have to make some changes on the existing law which is the annulment.. at least annulment is acknowledge by the Catholic Church para wla na pong mas malaking issue...pwedi nman po nilang idagdag ang mga nabanggit mo pong mga issue para maging ground for annulment...
@@sweet_angel1274 di pwede dahil ibig sabihin ay iibahin ang ibig sabihin ng annulment. Kaya nga medieval talaga ang logic behind it. Dahil kahit inaabuso na at pinagsasamantalahan at niloloko ng paulit-ulit ay hindi pa rin grounds yun for annulment. “Pagsilbihan mo ang asawa mo”. Yan ang turo ng matatanda at katolikong simbahan. Kasama jan ang pagtitiis at pagpapatawad sa asawa ng pulit ulit. Kailangan nang gumising ng mga Pilipino.
@@kikiam7850 may punto po kayo dyan...siguro gawan nlng nang paraan ng government na mapabilis at mapa-mura ang process ng annulment... Kasi although marami sa atin ang bukas para diskusyunan ito marami pa ring agam-agam dahil na rin sa konserbatibong pananaw na kinalakhan ng nakararami sa natin.
The lack of divorce for families with abusive members is literally a cage that traps everyone involved. We can't deny that if divorce becomes legal, it will be abused, but not making it legal just robs victims of a way out. Either make divorce legal or make annulment easier. Religious reasons don't make sense when another human being is being abused by another in marriage.
I don't agree with divorce. I don't even agree with the logic that when two people who got married realize they don't fit together then they can get divorced. That's why it's so important that during the courtship stage, both man and woman would know if they'd be good to date and be in a relationship. Marriage is not a trial and error. It's a commitment not only between spouses but to God. No marriage is perfect, but two people who are willing to work things out, willing to stand on that commitment, willing to see their own flaws and even communicate and encourage their spouse can make it work... And more.
I remember my dad telling me this, the feeling of love doesn't last in marriage -- what lasts and strengthens is respect that they become the best of friends. Love takes a different form and that makes marriage last.
Yep true, agree with what you said. But at least give other people options, if we dont agree with divorce then dont use it, but give other people who needs it a choice.
I hope you found a partner same ground moral as yours, wish you happiness.
Very true!!
@@madz8936 you have a choice when you choose your partner... That's why it's important to get to know your partner before agreeing to get married.
I agree with divorce
I really appreciate how you respectfully react and gave your thoughts about this matter❤️ More power to your channel❤️
In my opinion, marriage is something that we should think about profoundly for it is a symbol of COMMITMENT. Petty and trivial fights will be encountered by both parties from time to time and they should try their best to find a solution and common ground because they are married and not to act on impulse and choose divorce to end the "suffering". However, if domestic abuse and violence continue to foster within one's relationship, i strongly believe that that's the time where you can file for divorce because love does not hurt; it heals.
When the other guy said some are catholic by paper..True!! 😆😆
Relate talaga ako doon.. If pwede na machange religion q.. Gawin q but ang stigma pag hindi ka RC sa work environment
I like that man who said that cheating is forbid by the law God and also human law. He said that he is against cheating and better to avoid it. But in fact he is having an affair with another woman and not with the woman she married. Lol
This video shows you the difference. But I like the idea of reacting and expressing their thoughts about marriage and divorce in the Philippines. Because at the end of the day, not Man, but God's Will, will always prevails.
BBM will fix what you yellows did to our country for 30 years. Divorce will be legal.
BBM will fix what you yellows did to our country for 30 years. Divorce will be legal.
Legalize but...
Especially made or a Philippine type or kind of Devorce fit for a conservative Catholic country like the Philippines. To avoid collision of opinions and at the same time give way for those who are in a hopeless relationship.
Always think a lot of times before getting married. Ika nga, "Ang pag-aasawa ay hindi kaning mainit na kapag napaso ka, iluluwa mo na."
Ya’ll here saying that not legalizing divorce will prevent cheating and adultery, but that’s already been happening to this day WITHOUT it. Adding the option of divorce to this religious country isn’t necessarily a bad thing. And not everyone can afford an annulment. You should think of the victims of domestic abuse. The victims who can’t escape because they simply cannot afford to, whether it’s financially or religiously. This is just one of the reasons why I’m glad to have been born and raised in a country that is more open-minded about religion and love in all its forms.
I don’t practice the Catholic faith as I much used to, and I’ve stopped going to church. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have faith. God has a plan for all of us, that is true. But some may believe too strongly that one way is the only way, and that there is nothing after you’ve reached your supposed destination in life. But if there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that love happens more than once. The person you fall in love with and hope to be with until the end of time is NOT the only one who can be that person in your life. Some people realize that too late. Some people don’t believe in it at all. Others choose to be ignorant due to their own beliefs. But this is mine.
My grandfather remarried, either before or after migrating to the U.S.. I don’t know what happened to his first wife, but I think she’s still alive and living in the Philippines with her side of the family. And I know that he loves my grandmother, his second wife, very much. And my dad and his siblings all love her as a mother. Even my great aunt and uncle, despite separating and my great uncle remarrying, are both happy despite not having resolved. And I understand that this all happened outside the Philippines, but they are still pure Filipinos that practice the Catholic faith away from their homeland and the loved ones they left behind.
Becoming open-minded to options and beliefs that do in fact improve one’s situation and overall well-being is not selfish or some kind of sinful crime. What I find selfish and sinful is being unable go let go out of “love” and “faith”, all while enduring physical and emotional pain and allowing problems to fester and grow unresolved. And no, I do not believe in “one must suffer in order to…”. Love includes sacrifice, but just what are you sacrificing by allowing yourself to suffer? Because this will not only affect you, but your family and friends who cannot help you and your children who have to watch it all happen (and you can’t justify not fighting in front of the kids, because kids these days are smart af). If you can’t think of your happiness, then think of your children’s. Is it really better to live in a broken home with little chance of reconciliation? Or to live with hope and a second chance, even if it means that you won’t find love again? Because again, love comes in many forms and shapes.
I personally think it’s time for the Philippines to progress even a little, whether it’s by new laws or new social culture. If ya’ll can have kids understand whether they’re LGBTQ+ or not (unlike other countries and people who are against it just as much as the PH is against divorce) then surely you’ll get somewhere. Maybe by then, we’ll have more rights for the Filipino LGBTQ+ community as well. Y’know, after trying to figure out what to do with this marriage system.
As someone who views relationships from a bigger perspective, I know how important divorce is…Unfortunately, as a Filipino (who was born in Italy), I’m aware of how religious the country is, so there’s very little I can do about it (knowing that if I expressed my pro-divorce opinions I could get judged a lot by my parents and relatives).
At the end of the day, it’s their choice and it’s their life. It’s really not about the relationship that the husband and the wife have with each other, but the relationship both of them have with God. Therefore, unless there’s a change in mentality, having divorce legalised won’t be possible.
Why getting married if your not sure that that person is the one for you anyway
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WHAT I LIVE IN THE PHILIPPINES BUT DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS WHY MY MOM IS STILL ISN'T DIVORCED!?
it's been years since she and her ex-husband separated mom and that guy now have their own families also my step-sister and step-brother too are now grownups
I grew up thinking that my mom probably didn't have enough money for another marriage or she find it troublesome but I didn't know they can't divorce
sometimes when I do some registrations and need to put my parent's name I would be always distracted by the last name of my mom it's still his ex-husband's last name also when thinking of that I really thought it would be amazing if my mom and dad ever get married I never attended a marriage once in my life so I really imagined that scene in my mind a lot and also my 2 siblings question me sometimes about it but I also don't know the answer... it's great that I found this on my home page
"Where we're not stuck in old beliefs" true. People need to be more open minded on this topic. Its not just because "its wrong on the eyes of God", "Love" and so on. Love cant fix everything and we cant keep being caught up on made up rules or else our country will just stay where it is and not progress at all.
It's really wrong in the eyes of GOD ,we can't just pass by the one who created us and the one who created you.
He sees all,He's in control for everything,that's happening. I think "religious country" is not the right term to call the ph,it will be perfect if the pH called "a country thats has a strong relationship with the true GOD who created heaven and earth"
It's not just about religion it's about fearing GOD not men:)
Another, marriage is not a contract it's a marriage between man and woman who committed to love each other for the rest of their lives ,in sickness or in health etc..
So if you will marry someone you need make sure he/she the right person for you ,,for the rest of your lives.
Cheating is penalized in the Ph law. Many agree with divorce saying it helps the concerned parties move on and allowing them to remarry again. However have you thought of the children? When one of the partners marry another and have a family of their own, how can one make sure that the children of the previous marriage are afforded of the basic needs? Worst if both partners remarry and both is having children of their own with their new found love?
Divorce just makes it easier for irresponsible adults to call it quits whenever they like without having to face the consequences of their action. Scenarios like "I love somebody else already, set me free, sign these documents" is so callous and is removed from any consequence of ones immoral decision and behavior.
For families that are victims of abuse our laws has penalties for the abusive partner. They can even ask for a TOR from the brgy level or they can file a case against the abusive partner.
@@harlenehernandez3589 but not all are alleged Christians... So, please spare the god and let people choose... In the end of the day, if that couple committed sin, di naman ikaw pupunta sa hell...
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y, i agree
I am single forever cause I know no one wants me
wow, I had no idea divorce is illegal in the Philippines. I"m a second-generation Filipino-American, my parents and my aunt (all first generation Fil-Am) are divorced and for good reasons. In the Fil-Am community, there is a mindset that yes, marriage is sacred, but if circumstances are intolerable (and they were) then it was best to divorce and try to still be co-parents on speaking terms. The domestic abuse, infidelity, lying etc that would otherwise result--I can't imagine how much of it goes on behind closed doors in the Philippines.
In my opinion, I don't support divorce cause many people will take advantage of it but if abuses happened between them and immorality then it's on another level cause God also command that respect one another and be a great example to your children by leading to god.
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Imagine being with someone for 50 years but knowing you can't divorce even though you've been cheated and abused over and over. Sounds like someone is taking advantage of the fact that you can't divorce ......since it's in the Bible that you shouldn't. What a life to live. Who cares about a broken person when people can hide behind religion.
Yet having "asawa sa labas" is very common in the Philippines. Stupid hypocrites.
Philippines value marriage? I mean we don't have divorce, that's true, we have annulment but it make long processes. But marriage nowadays feels like just a responsibility to do especially when your partner get pregnant and later on they still choose to separate or love at first then married but still separate. Fighting who's gonna take care their child, support. And that is almost exactly look like divorced without saying your divorce. So I don't agree anymore being conservative and sanctity in marriage here in Philippines. Some maybe still but it's starting to fade away. So I do really want Divorce to happen and those partner that abuse, and great support for child.
it's best to enforce and make annulment accessible.
For me, I'm against with divorce. Why? A certain couple before making a decision in getting into that sacred union, should think twice or more. I just don't like the fact that people these days, literally have no proper communication and that would end up to misunderstandings and fights. My parents, just last 4 yrs ago they started fighting all the time, they hurt each other by saying hurtful things, but it was bc of some misunderstandings, us as their children, told them to talk it out. Now, they're fine, they're now retiring & back to being close. Bc if you don't talk it out, it will file up, & it would bring heavy feelings that would cause to a huge fight thhat would prolly end up to separation.
THAT IS WHY COMMUNICATION IS THE most essential in a relationship
Sadly many couples who can’t stay married yet can’t divorce are separated and usually find new partners . If they can’t afford an annulment, they are living in sin.
But in reality, lahat po ng pamilya ay may iba't ibang sitwasyon at dipende na rin po talaga sa tao yan kung paano nila i handle ang problema
Yun din inisip ng parents ko pero napaka toxic na sila. Until namatay si stepfather. Kaya pro divorce ako. Divorce is created for abusive husband/wife.
My parents are unable to communicate, especially my father… Even when I try to be super clear with my parents, they always have a reason to not listen.
You’re lucky that your parents listened, but because my super religious father doesn’t take the words of her daughter seriously, there’s nothing that can be really done. All I have to do is look forward for the next fight/tantrum and see what will happen. Not everyone has the same life unfortunately, some people really need to get divorced because at a point it’s just delusions taking over their minds.
Let's be realistic. How about those abusive spouses? I don't think madadaan pa yan sa communication when their partners are already physical and mentally abusive their other half. Let these people have freedom and peace of mind They need to heal from abusive partners.
Hello guys, thanks for your respect the difference between philippines and koreans culture.
I'm married for 23 years. A married couples argue sometimes because of the many reasons, but after an hour if you discuss the problem and listen to each others opinion and be open minded maybe your commitment as couple will be last long.
As expected sa mga comment section ng mga close minded Filipino, di pabor sa Divorce kasi kasalanan daw where in fact di nila iniisip ang kapakanan ng mga bata once na may mag-abuse sa isa sa dalawang parties.. Love doesn't require anything and marriage is just a paper na makakatulong sa karapatan ng both parties through their ari-arian.. Talagang both side mahihirapan kung di legalized ang divorce.. Kahit na may annulment which is more hassle maprocess..
Hindi sila nagrepresenta sa mayorya ng tao sa pilipinas. Ang mayorya dito ay bumoto kay bbm at siyay sumoporta sa divorce. Napakatalino talaga ang mayorya at napakabobo ang menorya. Sana nlng hindi nila pinilit ang kanilang kabobohan sa mayorya 😂😂😂😂😂 #bbmsara #NeverAgainToPinklawans
Instead of pushing the legality of divorce much better if we have a program on how to encourage the couple especially the young couples to strengthen their relationship. And I highly recommend na magkaron or ibalik yung GMRC sa mga bata. Legalizing divorce...is not really a good idea! Kasi instead of trying na Maisurvive pa ung mag asawa iisipin Nila mag divorce nalang agad total legal na. Baka sa susunod pa nyan I-legal narin ung pagkakaron NG maraming asawa. Opinion ko po lamag ito. We have annulment naman sa pilipinas at proseso if it's domestic abuse
I think a divorce is needed in the case of adultery. You can't expect the spouse to strengthen the relationship. Good thing our president is in favor of divorce. The Philippines will do much better with it.
Filipinos are actually very smart to vote for a progressive leader like BBM. We need to change the constitution and the family code. They were made when our leader was a literal housewife.
If ever that divorce become legal here in the Phil, it's actually good specially those people who are married but mentally and physically abused by their partners.
Get the marriage annulled then. Do not wait for divorce
@@asianaticsworld9786 annulment isn't really that simple tho as it requires more time and is generally more costly, some people can't afford it 🤷♀️
@@shotosbaobei547 that is why change the law and the rules of annulment instead of divorce. We can do this. We should not make marriage as a play to couple that if their tired with each other, they will just file a divorce. If the other partner has a bad breath, they can file a divorce. All the grounds are covered under existing law without the need of divorce. Just make them affordable.
@@asianaticsworld9786 You cannot file annulment for domestic violence lol.
Art. 45. A marriage may be annulled for any of the following causes, existing at the time of the marriage:
(1) That the party in whose behalf it is sought to have the marriage annulled was eighteen years of age or over but below twenty-one, and the marriage was solemnized without the consent of the parents, guardian or person having substitute parental authority over the party, in that order, unless after attaining the age of twenty-one, such party freely cohabited with the other and both lived together as husband and wife;
(2) That either party was of unsound mind, unless such party after coming to reason, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
(3) That the consent of either party was obtained by fraud, unless such party afterwards, with full knowledge of the facts constituting the fraud, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
(4) That the consent of either party was obtained by force, intimidation or undue influence, unless the same having disappeared or ceased, such party thereafter freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
(5) That either party was physically incapable of consummating the marriage with the other, and such incapacity continues and appears to be incurable; or
(6) That either party was afflicted with a sexually-transmissible disease found to be serious and appears to be incurable.
@@asianaticsworld9786 you also cannot add domestic violence to the grounds of divorce because as you can see, it is limited to "defects in consent during the celebration of marriage" anything that happens after that is outside the scope of annulment, hence you really need a divorce law.
For me, it's better to be together first while not married so that we know each other .. I don't agree with divorce because that will just make you cheat over and over again.
For me, I think people like you should mind your own damn business. I thank the Lord that the majority of Filipinos mind their business. This is why they would vote for a leader who supports divorce and gay marriage. Sama-sama tayo babangon muli ♥️💚♥️💚.
@@fla8623 You are only guilty of your life. It's your job to cheat..it's opinion..you're useless in this country if you're just complaining
@@supermaldita2471 Actually, I am part of LGBT and I do not intend to marry just to divorce. I am happy that the majority of Filipinos changed their mind about these issues. Not only will there be gay marriage but also divorce. These things will never be forced on anyone. Meanwhile it is you, part of a minority, who wishes to push their dogma on others.
Anyways, I can't really blame you. I place the blame on Cory Aquino. It is probably her fault that people like you exist. She basically banned divorce in the Philippines.
I am glad that the Filipinos have risen once again and see the fascism from the "liberal party".
@@fla8623 That's what's hard about lgbt people. Lgbt marriage is not legal here. Just keep quiet because you are not the one with this. Then complain when you are told the wrong thing. Just be quiet so you don't get caught up in building hate in the country.
Problema mag asawa yan na legal na nagpakasal.
@@supermaldita2471 I trust PBBM and VP Inday Sara to make our country great again.
NO TO divorce bill.
.. In God's name..
.. Hindi kain na pag isinubo mong mainit iluluwa mo..
.. Imagine spiritual bonding yan sa mata ng Dios, kung ano ang hinihigpit at niluluwagan sa langit yun din sa lupa, ang batas sa langit ay ganun rin sa lupa.
.. Happy 500 years of Christianity in the Philippines..
.. Long-live philippines..
That is why dont take marriage lightly, yes we Filipinos against divorce but those who says what if, we always fight, or i experience abuses, or i fall out of love.. that's why you should know your partner before getting married, marriage is not only you love each other.. its also you are ready to commit one another.. its not only your wife or husband but both of you need to commit to each other and WORK together.. if you have flaws and wrong doing, just admit it and forgive one another.. the Problem is our attitude, there is more pride in ourselves sometimes our selfish act is stronger than our responsibility and love to our Family.. you married each other, so take responsibility to what you started... But of course commitment without love is nonsense, if you love each other commit one another..
Sorry my English is bad..😁😁
I edited my comment after i talk to my husband.. i ask him what is commitment in marriage? and the last thing he said before we ended our discussion is "commitment without love is nonsense" "if you only commi to each other and there is no love that is only obligation". For me personally there is a lot of meaning of commitment but my husband is right if i love him i will be a faithful wife, that is not my obligation to him but im willing to do it because i love him and im ready to work with him for our family.
LOVE IS PRIMARILY IN THE WILL, NOT IN THE EMOTIONS OR GLANDS. THE ROMANCE FADES OUT BUT LOVE SHOULD REMAIN...Ven Fulton Sheen
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Agree on their comments.. Beliefs and cultures should be respected as we know that we have differences.
The quiet reaction with respect I salute you long Live Handa Studio
that's why couples shouldn't rush marriage.
before you decide to get married, you should get to know your partner really well.
Absolutely
Advise: Abusers knew how to hide their foul smell so well.. Look up narcissistic people 😉
Iba npo kc ang panahon ngayon.pra sakin sariling opinion bgyan nmn ng chance yung ibang tao lalo n s mga taonh ndi sinuwerte s kni knilang asawa
Divorce is a legal and practical way of getting out of a marriage contract. A lot of Filipinos definitely have outdated beliefs and most of them are trying to be righteous without considering the reality. Although there are laws against adultery and concubinage, there are so many married people out there who cheat. Many abuse their spouses and children and in such toxic environment, the children are sadly the most affected.
When it comes to toxic situations i feel like Annulment is much better than Divorce. If Divorce ever came to fruition a lot of people would abuse that and would use that in their own gain. There was a time when my Father and Mother were in a deep fight (when we were on a trip overseas they would fight every night) and if divorce was legal at that time, my mother would have filed for divorce then and there because she has thoughts of separating with my father even though its not legal but she didn't because of us and we were just toddlers back then. Five years later my little brother was born. I dont even want to think of what my life would be like if both my parents separated, for me it would be stressful and just imagining your parents living another life without you and with a different family is just something i could not bear.
In marriage you should always respect each other, trust each other, and don't abuse your partner, marriage is sacred, sacrifice is part of marriage, that's why you should choose the partner you want to live forever, But please don't abuse your partner, Respect, Love, Trust, and put God first to marriage,
Seeing as annulment is me thesis paper, I'll just give you lots info that most don't know. It's a fact that cheating is illegal in the Philippines BUT it will not be considered as a ground for filling an annulment THOUGH what you can do is to file for the mental traumas that person caused because that is considered as one of the grounds in annulment.
Now why did I bring this up? It's because those who are against divorce are afraid that cheating might increase should divorce should be legalized. So I suggest that if divorce should legalise people can plead to make cheating as one of the grounds for divorce.
In my opinion instead of legalizing divorce, changes should be made in the annulment process. Such as adding cheating as grounds for annulment. Make it less expensive, more accessible and faster.
And then there should be more free legal aid so victims of cheating can sue for adultery or concubinage easily as well as victims of domestic abuse.
More organisations that offers aid for marriage counselling, mental health help groups, etc.
Through all these the sanctity of marriage can still be preserve.
@@Luthien577 perfectly said 👏🏻👏🏻
@@Luthien577 Can't.. Exclusive ang grounds ng annulment which is defect in the consent during the marriage celebration; cheating does not vitiate consent, kasi kahit alam mong cheater siya, you still said "I do". And even if after ng kasal mo nalang nalaman na cheater siya, it is not a defect in the consent "during the marriage celebration" kaya ang laki ng loophole sa law. So you need divorce for that.
Where did you read that cheating is illegal in the Philippines? It's not. What is illegal in the Philippines is that as a married woman, you should not have sex with anyone other than your husband; as for men, you are free to have sex with any girl as long as she is not married and you do not bring home your "kabit" in your marital home or have sex in a "scandalous manner" so that he cannot be charged with concubinage. Other than that yes, pde magkabit ang lalake basta discreet lang siya at di kasal yung kabit nya.
Source: PH lawyer
@@Beck214 Philippines' law criminalizes adultery and concubinage. Both are deemed “crimes against chastity” under the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines and are treated as sexual infidelity in the Family Code.
The law discriminates against wives. The crime of adultery can be committed only by a wife and her paramour. The husband need only prove that his wife had sexual intercourse with a man other than him.
The crime of concubinage can be committed only by a husband and his concubine, but it requires that the wife must prove that her husband has kept a mistress in the conjugal dwelling, or has had sexual intercourse under “scandalous circumstances” or lived together with his mistress in any other place.
The penalties are also quite different. For adultery, the guilty wife and her paramour may be imprisoned for up to 6 years
For concubinage, the husband may be imprisoned for up to 4 years and 1 day, while his concubine may be merely “banished” but may not be imprisoned.
nevertheless, the point here is Cheating is still illegal.
Philippines has Annulment but unfortunately its too expensive thats why most of them just stayed married on the papers but in fact they are separated and have other partners.
Whether there's a divorce or not, it doesn't stop cheaters from committing adultery and abuse. Thats why i think its better to have divorce, its cheaper and accessible for the victims if they want to separate with their sh*tty partner.
I am definitely for divorce! We have to give people choices depending on their situation. Kung ayaw mo nmn ng divorce then wag kang mag divorce. Pero let's not hinder others na gusto neto.
Yaaasss!!!
A divorce law will make people care less in choosing their partner. A family is the most basic part of a society that is why we are protecting its sanctity.These people, who chose each other willingly, as much as possible must work their marriage. It is also a way of protecting the children who is our next generation.if you have an abusive partner, file VAWC and annul. If you want divorce? Marry outside the Philippines
We dont live in fairytales,.,. Kada araw ang tao nag babago,.,. So i guess we better give chances to other broken families by searching the people that is meant for them,.,
Its case to case basis , pero hopefully mapagtibay yung education about "marriage love and sex" sa philippines . Maraming pumapasok sa relationship pero di panaman talaga handa ang weight ng marriage.
Marriage for me is important, we will bow Infront of our god and promise together to fight and love each others differences. Being a lady marriage is very important from us, it will became a new door for us to be able to grow and make anew life for our family. CHEATING IS A CHOICE but for me MARRIAGE IS A PROMISE TO BE FULLFIL.
Kaya nga sabi ng matatanda "Ang pag-aasawa ay hindi kagaya ng kanin na mainit na kapag sinubo mo at napaso ka ay iluluwa mo"
Ngayon kasi ginagawa nalang biro ng iba yung pagpapakasal. Nakaramdam lang ng spark or slow mo ay akala true love na agad, tapos magpapakasal na agad..
Getting married is really complex for almost all of us. You'll never really know someone until both of you will live in one house.
Problems on marriage is normal and it seems like marriage isn't the same as before. Some aren't even sure but still get married for whatever reason.
It takes a lot of courage and patience to be married. Once you're married it should be both of you who will do everything to make the relationship work.
There are CONS and PROS on lots of things. There are people who have reasons why they would like DIVORCE to be legal in Philippines and I respect that.
Ang kasal ay ung pag isahin ng DIYOS ang dalawang nagmamahalan..wag payagan ang divorce..gagalitin lang natin ang DIYOS
I am a catholic. And have a failed marriage. I hope the divorce bill will be be legalized
Funny thing is since divorce system doesn't exist, people tend to lean more towards annulment. To which one or most claimed of its requirement in order to be granted is the clause for *PSYCHOLOGICAL INCAPACITY* In simpler term, people go as far as claim the other is *iNsAnE* OR claim it as them being insane lmao
Pansin ko lang ah, ayoko bastah ganun nalang. Mabash pa ako ey haha
As a Filipino 13 years old kid, i agree with divorce cause i cant see my parents fight anymore for the past 13 years of my life,it has been affecting both my mental and physical health,my studies, aswell i cant sleep in time, i dont understand why its illegal to divorce, because some people is having a hard time with their relationship and having many problems, they should allow us Filipino to be divorced as we say, because sometimes things can be abusive now and not working out very properly.
In my opinion for divorce as a filipino is not a problem because change cant be stop but i think because we are catholic and a lot of couples get married in the church even if we have annulment in the phillipines it can only separate the couple in papers but not in the church..that is why i really want to get married in the civil way than in church but then again like what our elders says.."marriage is not like a hot rice that if you get burn you could just spit it out" that is why think a million times before getting married and be matured enough to be as a married couple and future parents because in a separation of parents, children are the most affected not the parents.
karamihan sa matatanda ayaw ng divorce. pero may annulment naman sa pinas. kaso napakamahal ng fees
eto ay ayon lang saaking opinyon
Ang kasal or Ang pagpapakasal ay Responsibilidad na kaylangan panindigan ng Pang habang buhay kaya kung meron kayong kinakasama ngayon at inaya kayo magpakasal isipin mong mabuti yung Hinaharap like kung sya ba talaga? Eto na ba yung tamang oras para sa mga bagay na yon? in short wag padalosdalos sa mga desisyon sa buhay iisipin mo rin yung hinaharap hindi lang kasi (Pagmamahal) ang kailang ng Magasawa kundi kailangan din na nakikita mo na may seguridad ang hinaharap finacial support yung taong kahit sabihin nating Hindi mayaman pero may tiyaga at kaya kayong buhayin. Sa nakikita ko lang rin No1 na pinagtatalunan ng Magasawa ang pera. in long explanation to be short sana magiingat kayo sa pakakasalan nyo at hindi padalos² sa mga desisyon dahil bawat hakbang ng desisyon nyo ay makakaapekto sa hinaharap at magiging mga anak nyo.
We don't have the divorce law but theirs an annulment law... But it's not very easy also because it depends on the strong grounds...
Well for me,. Dapat meronng divorce kasi what if di mag work out sa huli ang relasyon or may temptation,.,. Nagiging bad influence lng sa mga bata if toxic ang rwlationship ng mga magulang,.,. We should respect each others choices nalng,.,. Kc a lot of cases na rin ng abuses, at third party,.,
Get an annulment,nagdecide kayo na magsama habang buhay,pangatawanan mo. Kung di mo naman na kaya yan physical and mental abuse kuha annulment,mahal at matagal lang talaga. pa
@@melaniemoreno9595 get a brain ♥️💚♥️💚
When the nature of marriage became toxic and if ever both parties within the marriage has it's own families I prefer them to get separated.
Well it's better that before your two person human being stay together much better know each other
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There are a lot of people that doesn't want the law to pass, why? They still have the colonial thinking of once the marriage is consumed, they need to endure each other for the rest of their lives. Left are people like me that never wanted to get married but since I respected my parents and bonded myself to someone I didn't love. Now, everything I do in legal matters, the person I married goes along with it and for that, I will never get to be free in things I want to do. Divorce should be passed but still be more stringent in implementing it.
If marriage was made accessible like any commercial good, and become like any good which is replaceable and disposable, then what is the standard for love? Divorce cheapens love. The difference with other religions, is that it is a sacrament for catholics, not just a contract to make a family. They should not have married in the first place. It is not that we need divorce but the procedure to marry should be made difficult to prevent those who are not ready for it.
Our problem is that we think we always need to fix/replace/dispose things that no longer work. That when things go awry, you should have a way out. Not in all cases. The best solution is to build it stronger and better from the start. Marriage should be approached like that. If you have a mindset of looking for an exit just as you are about to enter, then you are not ready for the long haul.
I think you must be the dumbest person in the world if you think divorce is ever easy 😂😂😂😂
Ohhhh, i so love this comment. Exactly what i have in mind.
This is the best comment I’ve read so far.
God bless you. God bless the Philippines.
Oh!! Then.. We can have a divorce law but exempt Catholics and all religions that does not agree with legality of divorce .. Simple as that😊👍
@@yachishairclips2250 No one makes laws like that. The law applies to all or none at all.
As a filipino and a kid who witnessed my mom go thru the painful annulment process just to get away from pos father, I absolutely agree with divorce. We were lower middle class back then and the annulment process costed over ₱200,000 as stated on one of the files I read while helping my mom arranged her stuff. I don’t even know if the cost of the lawyer was already in there but she just wanted to get away. My father and his family tried gaslighting her that she should respect the “sAnCtItY” of marriage when he was the one who cheated over and over with an added bonus of not coming home for weeks essentially forgetting us. My mom strived really hard and now she happier and stronger than ever. what more could I ask?
You can say that my mom should’ve known before they even got married but people lie, they can fake it until they’ve reached their goal and once they’ve succeeded it is only you who’ll suffer.
Yes!! Abusive people know how to hide who they really are... Kaya it is so scary to have a commitment with someone
Passing the divorce law doesn't automatically make the Philippines a progressive country, if anything, it might cause more problems. Marriage is sacred and one should consider it with heavy responsibility. My parents have been married for more than 25 yrs and I can see as I grew up that their marriagr is not perfect. Theyy fight sometimes but they also reconcile. Love is not sustainable. That is why it is a choice to love your spouse over the years. If the love is lost, make effort to renew it. Go on dates, give roses or kisses. Don't let an arguement go on till the next morning. Talk it out like proper adult. Divorce would only make marriage a joke.
you're only speaking for your experiences. what about other people's? those who experience domestic abuse? rape? the children who only see their parents arguing and fighting? the reality is not everyone has the same experiences as you. some have it worse, some have it better. you have to consider these situations, too. you saying divorce would make marriage a joke is proof of how ignorant you are
i agree with you.
What works for your family does not work for everyone else. Just cause you're parents were able to resolve their issue and preserve their marriage doesn't mean that everyone can. If you're constantly abused and taken advantage of continuously, wouldn't you leave?
@@Ace-bn9ih I agree. Thus the annulment law must be updated to make the process faster and cheaper especially to those circumstances like violence.
@@shynne3789, the annulment law isn't as good as you think; it only invalidates the marriage. The key difference between annulment and divorce is that in Divorce, the children's circumstances are considered as well as compensation for the incurred damages from the abuser, regardless of Gender.
I'm not against it. I'm happy if that will be approved ,because it give chances to those who is really abuse specially emotional and physical abuse,so they can get a chance to have a partner that makes them happy even a short time,. I know that not everyone will get what I said but it's just my opinion
In Philippines we called the families that divorced or the parents doesn't want each other are broken family
World is not perfect, no one is perfect… so lets say the person you want to marry seems all great , but after marriage he/she becomes abusive. So divorce should still be illegal?? There are lots of people in terrible relationships with psychos as their partner / spouse, who abuses physically and mentally! Sorry I find it crazy that some people are against divorce even when there is abusive involved, just sayin’ 🤷♀️
So true. That is why I thank the majority of the Filipinos who voted for BBM. We need progressive leaders who will push the nation forward. Aside from Divorce, we need to be more open to other progressive policies such as that of Nuclear Energy powerplants.
Madam have a annulment... Hindi yong nakakulong ka relationship . Mag pa Annulment ka.
@@ednalunatalamo7035 problem with annulment is that is too expensive and really slow to be processed in court and even to take effect
@@yachishairclips2250 annulment is only for marriages that were never valid in the first place or if a spouse is mentally ill.
@@ednalunatalamo7035 Basahin niyo po qualifications ng annulment. Hindi po kasama ang abuse and infidelity.
We have legal separation and annulment. Just make them affordable and easy. Marriage is not just a contract. It's a sacrament
"Sa sobrang maka-diyos ng tao sa Philippines nakalimutan na nilang maging mak-tao"
Yes!! So true!! Nasobrahan sa pagiging makaDiyos nga...
I really hate it, there is literally a law about how the church is separate from the government but they always meddle of this affair
Same lang nman po sa annulment yan.di porke may divorce bill lahat na magdidivorce.mahal pa din ang proseso at di nman lahat may pera.pr lang din sa may pera yan o sa middle class.kaya anong prob if ipasa ang divorce bill
we had annulment that each of them has agree in the court that they officially end up.
The substitles mostly hindi siya akma sa mga sinasabi sa ininterview.
"In a way, our laws are just made for the rich. We have to improve our judiciary system so that the poor and rich are viewed equally on front of the law. I think this would be a good step towards becoming a progressive country" - real talk
(this is out of the topic but I just want to let others know the reality)
Kapag ang mayayaman (o galing sa kilala na pamilya) yung gumawa ng masama ay binabalewala lang. Pero, kapag yung mahihirap ay tinotorture pa at sagad na sagad yung pinaparusa.
Dapat talaga pantay-pantay ang pagtrato, mahirap man o mayaman. Kung sino po ang mahirap ay siya pa yung mas lalong pinapahirapan kesa sa mayayaman.. let's be fair..
Agree with kuya na naka blue @6:11.
what a nice quote " what God has put together, let no man separate"
There's "annulment" in the Philippines.
There is annulment here in Philippines,
just think if people will accustomed with that law.
Thats why we filipinos strongly valued our families.. try everything
to make it better and stay as long as we can... At some point divorce bill shuold be taken place too.. because people are not certain about decision making.. and i think one values will be affected specially on a childs mind when it saw thier parents never love each other but cant do things to be settled for thier family...