Policing London - The Fall of Jonathan Wild - Extra History - Part 2
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- 📜 History of Policing London: The Fall of Jonathan Wild - Jonathan Wild had the whole crime system figured out. A man of justice by day, and leader of a criminal empire by night. But that is when Jack Sheppard came into his life. Jack Sheppard was a talented thief but an even more talented escape artist. And one of the last criminals in London who refused to bend the knee to Jonathan Wild. This was unacceptable. Jonathan Wild became obsessed. But obsessions can be dangerous. Every prison escape causes Sheppard's popularity amongst the people, sick and tired of corruption, to grow. And the consequences may be deadly.
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The Walpole connection in the Lies video is going to be super easy this time around.
Extra Credits nice
Guten Tag
Extra Credits Do a series about the 30 years war!
Yeet
Extra Credits is tight!
I like the contrast of how Jonathan Wild cut off his GF's ear in an argument, while Sheppard's GF was central to several of his escapes.
The real reason Sheppard won, the power of love baby lol
It's like they're polar opposites
@@archivist_13to the comedian level
@@WolfyPlays07when Jack was hanged, he was smiling and embraced the love from the crowd. When wilde was captured, he did everything he could to avoid it, overdosing on opium, obsessing over bible passages, and when he was hanged it was the largest attendance yet.
One man welcomes and accepts death with open arms, while the other runs from it, only to meet it at the end of the tunnel regardless.
@@WolfyPlays07 They really were opposites. Jack worked for himself and distrusted authority. Wild was the authority and he forced everyone else to work for him.
Wild was aggressive and cruel, but hid behind other people, Jack was loved for being daring, harmless, and "honest" (as honest as a thief can be).
Even their last names contrast each other. Shepherds are loyal, caring, and hardworking, and wildness is kind of the opposite of that.
Jonathan Wild, the man who essentially played Sherlock Holmes and Professor Moriarty at the same time.
FINALLY! Somebody made the connection!
There are actually several stories (including a stage play that once had the great Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwick combo) that play with that idea, arguing that they are in fact, the same person.
They do this by pointing out that in Holmes canon, Watson never once met Moriarty and just has to take Holmes' word for it.
@@JamesTobiasStewart oh yeah, that was part of the plot to The 7 Percent Solution too. Interesting
I remember reading somewhere that in one of the original stories Holmes even explicitly compared Moriarty to Wilde though I could be wrong
Dexterity and Charisma: 20
Wisdom: 6
Sneak:100
Inteligence:1
And he also took the Lucky feat.
Everyone's got a dump stat.
@@KesselRunner606 So true xD .
Rolled a 20 on lockpicking every time he tried
Now that is BOLD! Shouting as he still LITERALLY has manacles on his ankles and then running.
Ah! But very cunning! Get people looking UP and no one will see the manacles.
Speechcraft 100
In a crowd, they look down, and see manacles. Make noise and make them look up, and nobody sees or hears them.
Nat 20 all day
Refuge in Audacity.
Jack Shepherd went out like a baller. Playing the crowd even at his own hanging.
Stop throwing Jack into more secure prisons and just stop giving him blankets instead
And i always thought the comics showing criminals escaping with blankets was a joke.....
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 enough toilet paper works too
Myth busters paper rope
I can't like because 666
69 nice
keep giving him blankes, but make them really, really flimsy ones.
Anhk-Morpork as a parody of London, with the whole "that young man robbed me and didn't even show me his thieve's guild license!" thing is starting to make more sense.
A city where being a thief is an official career where you need education, training and be part of a guild. The same for being an assassin, and there's also a beggar's guild.
@@arturoreyescortez2476 A city where getting robbed can be a pleasant and safe process, with polite young professionals only taking part of your money, instead of all you own, and giving you a chance of winning a set of wine glasses sounds like an exciting idea and would be good for tourism too.
The beggars guild keeps the orphans away from the streets and gives them a proper education.
And if someone would do a violent, unauthorised robbery, well, no need to bother the Watch, just cut a hole in the river and in they go. Stealing is one thing, but no honourable thief would ever let their taxes unpaid!
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 True, but I am more of a Watch man myself. Someone has to deal with the cultists and the dragons, or at least run away in an heroic way because running away from things that can kill you works.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 that... actually that sounds like something that could actually work.
@@natesmodelsdoodles5403 Yes. Knowing the rules of the game helps to win in any game, and city or national politics are no different. Sadly, the level of political debate today is not how things work, but who lies and how much, regardless of the lies existing or not. Even more sadly,lies do exist and grant power to all types.
Thats the rule in politics: the people are the final judges, and the less they understand, the more they want to believe promises.
Jack Sheppard would make an excellent assassin’s creed protagonist
Assassin's creed the great escape
And Wilde is a great Templar!! He claims to be all about law and order, but is really all about getting his own power and blends the line between police and criminal.
AbsolX Guardian are you writing this down Ubisoft
Except that he didn't kill anyone which is kinda the main thing assasins do
@@jokuvaan5175 They could get around this by having you play two characters in the campaign.
One is the loud-mouthed "thief with a heart of gold" Jack Sheppard who does the espionage and thievery.
The other is the quiet assassin loyal to the Brotherhood who you switch to to kill your targets and do the "dirty work."
The whole game is about building your Brotherhood criminal empire in London while trying to take down Wilde.
Man is on Skyrim levels of pick pocketing and crime.
lock picking 100
Charisma: 100
Inteligence: 1
LG COC The Lagging Offencoch has Destruction 100 O O F
*Sneak 100*
*Pickpocket 100*
*Biography 100*
You know the government fucked up when a petty thief gets more love than the thieves in the government.
Well at least they're honest about it
Eh, I would prefer Jack Wild to most of America‘s government now.😂
I'm surprised nobody in the comments is talking about Lyon?
I think its super cool that Jack got his start breaking Elizabeth out of prison, and later, she came to rescue him from jail twice too.
Yes, true loyalty! I think they're both iconic.
Then she betrayed him to Wild.
@@frankie3010to be fair, they got her drunk to find him.
Couple goals!
This man’s charisma stat is too high.
He had 20 Dexterity, 20 Charisma, and 7 Wisdom
he learned from that chick
(do I hear R===Run DMC and Aerosmith..?)
bro maxed his charisma out in the character creation screen
So, I'm wondering now if Jack Sheppard is the origin of 'Jack The Lad' as a nick name for thieves and criminals
Well, Jack Shepard had two nicknames: Gentlemen Jack and Jack the lad. So I'd say it's a good bet.
@@minkeyandzomble6206 Actually, Gentleman Jack was a nickname of Yorkshire land-owner and industrialist Anne Lister, one of the world's most well-known lesbians of the time. There's even an HBO drama about her that came out earlier this year.
@@LeviathanStorm38 I did not know that. Thanks for the Correction and teaching me something new!
@@LeviathanStorm38 English thief Jack Sheppard was known by a few nicknames including "Honest Jack," "Gentleman Jack" and "Jack the Lad." He died at age 22.
Jack Sheppard clearly must be a descendant of Khosrau to have such jail-breaking skills.
More like a descendant of Khavad. He was the one who originally escaped from the F O R T R E S S O F O B L I V I O N, after all. Twice.
@@wikiuser92 Yes.
@@wikiuser92 Same.. Khosarou was son of khavadh
@@wikiuser92 IKR
So what you're saying is...
... Walpole (indirectly) ended Wild's career.
Typical Walpole
Oh god this time Walpole was involved... sort of.
Obviously Walpole and Jack Sheppard were in cahoots.
I do have my connections. ;)
Walpole: I'm boutta end this man's whole career
@@robertwalpole360 WALLLLLPOOOOOLE
@@robertwalpole360 you have connections to everyone
Shepard's escape reads like an escape level, complete with quicktime events.
And the incident with Shepard having to go all the way back to get a key item he forgot to pick (the blankets) also feels like something out of a videogame
But can he escape from the Fortress of Oblivion?
Yes.
If he changes his name to Khavad, yes.
of course he can. jack has a plan. jack always has a plan
Of course he could with all those Khavad shaped holes.
Plot twist: Jack is actually Khavad's descendant, with the art of jailbreaking having been passed down the Sheppard line for generations.
Jack Shepherd:
Speech 100
pickpocketing 100
sneak 100
lock picking 100
Wisdom 2
Joseph Stahl why?
@@ryanjapan3113 he kept getting caught again and again
nobody probably more like
Greed 100
nobody also he had the intelligence to sneak out almost all the times
I've noticed that the great thieves of history were usually skilled craftsmen and tradesmen before they became criminals.
And often, it's less the skill itself and more the committment to learning skills that makes them dangerous. Until they ultimately are brought low by someone's inability to delay gratification.
I wonder if there's a lesson for game designers in there?
Mannn this reminds me of so many modern plots! Is the "honest thief vs. Corrupt boss" trope borrowed from this story?
The Robin Hood ballads predate this by 300 years. Jonathan Wild was also a contemporary of Dick Whittington. I'm sure there must be earlier examples going back to antiquity.
I suspect Jack Sheppard is the origin of the British cultural trope of "The Cheeky Cockney Geezer, who's a bit of a 'Tea-Leaf' but he's got a proper heart of gold he does"
7:03 "And then he broke his chain links."
Just like that? Just snapped 'em in two? Was he mighty Hercules or were the chains just worthless?
Rather worthless at that point in time.
The whole weakest link thing would have been a lot less metaphorical back when metallurgy and metal working weren't very consistent
I'm guessing he had prepared the chains to be more easily broken for at least a few days
Remember that each chain link had to be made by hand these days. Chain links made by acceptable standards of those days couldn't be broken and would take a week to file down. But I bet 1/3000 of them weren't even made to the standards of those days. He wasn't consistently breaking his own chainlinkss, just that one incident which leaves me to believe one of the links was made on someone's bad day.
He had food to build rust with, could have been that
History like this suddenly makes so much fiction seem all that more plausible, or even tame in some cases.
There's also the issue that I'm effectively playing a drinking game with shots of cynicism. Too many changes in the wrong places, not enough in the right ones.
Not really, but ok.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy
Jonathan Wild really asked the question "Can you have corrupt corruption?"
Guard "You can't escape now..."
Shepherd "what? Couldn't understand a word you said while I was escaping.."
Jonathan Wilde and Jack Shepherd, the example of the quote, “you either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain” dark Knight
Wilde? Yes and NO (cause he was never a hero)
Shepard? HELL N O
@@BIGTHANKSHEESHhe was more of an antihero.
@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264 Shepherd was an antihero. Wilde was a straight villain
really does not paint a pretty picture of london's legal system here. I mean, letting the same thief escape from 5 different prisons is one thing, but they didn't even pat down a notorious criminal at his own trial? What the hell
Smells like Gotham
@@insaincaldoOr Mexico with El Chapo.
This is 18th century London. I highly doubt that their legal system is anywhere near what ours is today
HOTPOCKETHunter Yeah, the earlier videos talk all about how inadequate London’s police system was.
THE BAILIFF WON'T TACKLE YOU because in the 18th century they didn't even have proper baliffs smh
Jack Sheppard: What if Assassin's Creed, but real?
And Wilde would be a perfect templar
Wait a second... Let's tell AC to make this happen.
@@asamvav dude, Syndicate already _been_ made!
Assassin's Creed Syndicate was set in the 1850s, not 1720, though.
Jack Sheppard: the original mad lad.
He's the real life Assassin's Creed
Let's just say Jack kept his head up high until death.
When you are hanged your head still stays above everything else
Little do people know Jack Sheppard did escape to the Caribbean where he renamed himself Jack Sparrow.
All this video tells me is that the metalwork in 18th century English prisons was dogshit at best
There prisoners why wast the good chains on them
@@stormrunner4081 To keep them like that?
Considering they apparently allowed visitors in solitary confinement, yeah.
Also, they were constantly underfunded and their staff ran them for their own profit, so security kind of wasn't on top of the priority list.
A lot of watch houses werent specifically designed, they were someones house where he had converted a room for detaining prisoners, that usually meant someone who was poor and desperate for cash which meant they would use the cheapest possible materials for building the cell.
Watching this series puts a large part of the discworld novels into context.
I think it's about time someone should start making a "real life one-ups fiction" chart for Extra History.
Jack Shepard is the closest thing we've got to a real life Lupin
I feel like we're skipping past the part where HE CUT SOMEONE'S EAR OFF
Um yeaaaaa
his girlfriend, no less
I was waiting until someone mentioned that
Eh who cares.
The south sea bubble. I always forget that these events dont happen in isolation.
1:56 Shoulda known Walpole would come up in this story.
Hearing about Wild reminds me of the case of Deacon Brodie, a 16th century Edinburgh councillor and cabinet maker who was also a housebreaker (using his skills and access to rob his customers).
According to some stories he helped to design Edinburgh's gallows, only to end up being hanged on them.
Sheppard was the housebreaker, Wild the thief-taker general
sounds familiar....
also he was in a way the inspiration for Jekyll& Hyde.
Of course Walpole has something to do with these events.
Edit:Wow More than 600 likes! Thanks guys. now keep an eye out for Prime Minister Walpole and Influenza and Happy Holidays.
Of course he does!
@@influenza3736 Tell me, Naples Soldier, where is he now?
Technically he does, because you know, south sea bubble just happened
This one is too easy
@@redornament3248 I am everywhere and anywhere. ;)
This episode and the Ned Kelly series are some of my favorites in all of Extra History. Something about proletariat heroes whose executions did not stop the social change their legacy brought to fruition
Jack Shepard is an inspiration to rogues everywhere.
These videos literally help me play D&D rogues. Thank you!
Someone : I have escaped from alcatraz.
Jack S. : Hold my tea.
I loved these two episodes, you guys never disappoint your fans! Thanks for everyone's hard work!
The twist at the end was great.
This has been perhaps your best series to date! I was wondering when the Bow Street Runners were going to make their inevitable appearance.
When your Skyrim character is a thief but you have every stat maxed out
He's more like Assassin's Creed
“Ha! Try getting out of jail THIS time! We’ve got you chained to the floor at the top of a tower!”
Jack Shepard: *noclip activated*
*Man went from to Level 1 pickpocket to level 100 mafia boss...*
Jack Sheppard at his execution like: “you want my treasure? You can have it! I left everything i gathered it all in one place. Now you just have to find it!” These words lured men to London, in pursuit of dreams greater than they ever dared to imagine! This time is known as “The Great Thief Era!”
That's what I was thinking too
I absolutely love this series. They're all great on this channel, but this has captured my imagination more than most
Why aren't there movies about Jack Sheppard? I mean, his entire story plays like that of an archetypical action hero- the script writers don't even have to exaggerate!
Dude had a badass name (think of how many protagonists are out there with either "Jack" or "Sheppard" on their names), a humble origin, a clever girlfriend, a big mouth (another trait of a good protagonist), and undeniable charm, an evil nemesis, some Deus Ex Machina+1 skills and a Level 99 Plot Armor!
You either die like jack shepherd, or live long enough to be like Johnathan wild.
"there he goes!" gets me every time
plot twist: sheperd was so good at evading the law that he escaped his own execution and was in the crowd of Wilds execution and renamed himself Henry Fielding
The south sea bubble is mentioned again!!!
Jack Shepherd is what every D&D thieve aspires to be
This is bringing Skyrim, Thieves Guild flashbacks. I love you, Jack!
Jonathan Wild: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Jack Sheppard: Me too
This is one of my favorite series. Thanks y’all!
Fantastic music, writing, and animation. One of my favorite series so far
8:11 "We love you! We are hanging you now!"
That happened a lot back then. Almost the same thing happened with the hanging of Dick Turpin and Claude Duval
This is like going to college again, cant wait to get my masters. Thank you extra credits
All of this could've been avoided if Jack had "mysteriously" ended up dead on a street or basement.
Indeed, I was thinking the same.
WarBacca 101 yeah he could have just been suicided
@@caolanfeely4317 Epsteined
Right? For a violent crook Wild sure is eager to get him convicted and properly hanged rather than just beat to death.
@@jok1957 Well, a large part of Wild's persona is as enforcer of the law. He might've underestimated the anger that would result from actually catching Jack. Moreover, he was out of the picture during the execution, so he couldn't work on any counter-publicity to make his point seem more likable..
I was half expecting Jack Sheparde's real name to be Moist von Lipwig
Unfortunately, he did not believe in angels.
Moist is a con artist, not a thief. But Vetinari certainly could have found a use for Shepard's skills as well.
Jack shepherd is litteraly THE main character
For one of the greatest escape artists in history, Shepard sure was bad at avoiding arrest.
Jack be nimble, Jack be quick.
This is arguably the best EH series. Or maybe that's because I'm a crime fan lol XD
Great story! Thanks for sharing this one Extra Credits!
Is there a movie version of this? This needs to be a movie! Who would you cast as Sheppard, and who would you cast as Wild?
Jonathan Wild deserves a freaking movie!
Oh well. Johnathan’s reign might have ended badly, but at least he had a wild ride.
EC: War were declared.
*C&Rsenal would like to know your location *
I was worried I was going to have to post this!
[laughs in Futurama]
How is this not a movie
Jack Sheppard, what an absolute legend
Me : How would the public not notice him in woman clo-
The person who drew Shephard :
Me : Oh
Plus I looked him up an he was 5'4''
Sounds like the perfect recipe for RDR-style video game
Sheppard sounds like a great DnD character inspiration
I remember a line in the '51 xmas carol where somebody said (about Scrooge and Marley) "they could rob Jack Shepard and he wouldn't know who did it" or something like that.
0:30 - WOW. Talk about a Nat 20 on your Deception Check...
7:37 Almost took it literally 😅. I mean, it had happened less than a century before.
YAY ME And MY DAD WATCH THESE TOGETHER
1:38 I replayed that scene for 15 times saying "He did what?!"
He wouldnt eat. Hm ok.
Refusing to attend church. Gasp, the situation is truly dire.
Now I realize the Baroque Cycle has an additional point of grounding. Also, I am crying laughing at these shenanigans.
What MacGyver can do with a paper clip, a drinking straw and a rubber band, Jack can do with a blanket
Dude you can't say London caught fire in this period. Thought we were having a crossover episode.
Thank u guys u brighten my day!!!!! :)
I’m so glad that Herry is going to actually make a legit police force,well I hope so. Also Jack Shepred and John Wild relationship reminds me of one of Batman’s and Joker’s relationships,there’s one protrail of them as neither good guys or bad guys,Batman more good then Joker but they both go against the law. Joker obsesses over Batman but Batman hates him and wants him dead. Hey,what if Jack was Batman and John was Joker?
Jack escaped by basically shouting "Look a distraction" and ran when everyone looked while saying "durr?"
also Wild was sentenced by one piece of evidence in the end, the piece of cloth his gang had stolen (he acted as look out as they raided the tailors shop and no one knows why as he never got his hands involved before this)
08:18 “before my execution I would like to thank our sponsor raid shadow legends!”
*boos from the crowd start being heard*
Playing as Jack Shepard would be a brilliant video game.
He sounds like he should be a character in an Assassin's Creed game.
Is there a movie about this? I would honestly love watching it
This has coincided eerily closely with my History GCSEs on Crime and Punishment...
just realized that highwaymen are actually just roadmen nowadays
Stop! You have violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence, your stolen goods are now forfeit!
Being sentenced to death and using his last words to plug his biography. What a baller.