Thanks, this is just what I needed. Re-bluing an old 22. BTW I'm 60 and only mistakenly left a shell in the chamber once but kudos to you for not editing it out. We're all human and it's a good reminder.
Just bought a new used H & R 12 gauge model 088 single that needs refinishing. Plan to do a video on that when I can get the time in a few weeks. Appreciate your view and thoughts.
I do this with permanent blue as well. But the 2 things I do differently is I take and sand the barrel down to the bare metal and never blue over existing bluing. It just makes it more even and after I let it set in between coats I wipe it down with warm water instead of cold or really hot water. I found it just helps the process and also makes the bluing darker. I also degrease with alcohol a couple times after I sand it down to the bare metal. And use medical gloves to keep from getting oils from my hands on the surface then finish with a light coat of oil on it wiping it down to take off all the excess oils. I have a gun I did about 15 years ago and it is still in great condition.
If you use HOT water the process will go faster and the bluing will be deeper.. heating the metal a bit is always a good idea. Also not that you want my opinion but as a gunsmith myself i use vans instant gun blue, it is FAR better than anything I've ever seen before. highly recommended.
Thanks for sharing. I just used a little rust remover on a 1944 mosin. I didn't realize it would take the old blueing off and kind of panicked. This looks super easy and now I'm excited for my next project.
what I normally do is to put the super Blue into a separate container.(little mounts at time) that way you do not contaminate the bottle from anyting off the piece you're bluing.And you're bottle is still fresh and clean. nicely done thanks for sharing..
hey my friend just a tip my father in law used to heat it gently with a heat gun and man that blue would sink in like a pro nice job as always atb ....tom
Excellent video...I have blued several guns over the years along with more than a few knives. Super blue is my go to for all things like this. For knives which are harder steel I find it takes 4-6 coats buffed with OOOO steel wool in between.
Yep. That's how it's done folks. I browned my old Glenfield 68 .22 with vinegar in much the same way. I heated the barrel up on my wood stove first. Turned out great after 3 coats buffed with steel wool in between. Holds up pretty good too. Give it a try if you got an old beater sitting around.
Excellent video I like how you take your time and show different ways of doing the cold brewing and your methods and make it look easy and doable I like that thank you sir have a great day
Thanks sir for the video very informative Actually you solved my problem and saved my money 😊 Bec I spent so much money on my guns restoration . My hands are sweating and when I hold the gun specially shotgun my finger prints appear on it in few days makes it rusty and I think many people have that problem . But now I got solution 😊 thanks again sir . And GOD bless you.
Good video 👍 keep up the great tradition of taking care of your hunting weapon. I've tried the same blueing method you use. Only problem I've had is streaking and blueing not lasting as long as I would like but I'll try more coats and see how that works out. Either way I can't afford the professional hot blueing jobs. Thanks for the great advice.
I always thought the key to a successful cold blue job was proper surface prep. At least that was the difference between the bad and good jobs I did over the years!
I am a huge fan of the Birchwood Casey Cold Blue. I use it on a lot of the firearms I mod and or fix. One thing I have noticed is the blue really seems to like a coat of oil immediately following the last application when it is "cured" as per the directions. When that oil hits it it turns a really nice deep blue almost black color. It's almost like icing on a cake.
I never had much luck with Birchwood Casey blues. The best blue for me was a "touchup" blue I bought years ago from Numerich Arms (now Gun Parts Corp.). The stuff worked so well I used the last of it to re-blue an old Model 67 .22 Winchester rifle. That rifle looks as good today as the day I blued it. Sadly, I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the touchup blue. :(
New to this, but I recently experienced what I've seen others mention with applying a light coat of oil right after ( not rinsing off the last blueing application. It continues to darken for a bit under the oil coat.
Dennis DeCicco don't know if I followed the instructions word for word or not but I am saying it is the way I do it but not the only way to blue anything.
Hi One thing I learned long ago, Don't dip the cotton ball into the bottle! You are contaminating the fresh liquid (Plus if you are a bit clumsy you can spill the lot!) better to pour some into a small container and re cap the bottle! Other than that a great video thanks!!!
I just done a single barrel spartan remington 12ga. Barrel turned out great after 2 coats. The action not so much. I done put 6 coats on the action and used the 0000 wool between each session and several other things and wouldn't darken anymore than it had darken after the 2nd coat. I tried make it dark as the original factory finish, it wouldn't do. I tried everything the super blue the perma blue the gel nothing worked even let set anywhere from 1-5 min to even an hour still wouldn't get any darker. It's like a bright black if that makes sense. Finally got tired messing with it after 3 days slapped the oil on it let it set and called it dandy. Daggum headache dealing with it.
About 50 years ago my Dad helped me refinish my shotgun. The blueing that was available back then is better than the stuff they sell today. Probably EPA related.
Many things were better 50 years ago before regulations. They they try to hide that fact with gadgets and high tech that only last so long. Appreciate your view and thoughts.
I would use finer sandpaper and 4 ought steel wool. Also, there are tons of videos on blueing guns but very few on fixing rust spots on old guns that sat in a closet for 20 years. I have one with perfect bluing except for 3 or 4 areas where there is some good old thumb print sized rust I have to fix. Can this be fixed?
William Collins thanks yes it was just an experiment to tidy the gun, it still looks a lot better than it did, but your right definitely more coats.thanks for the video.
I just used the Birchwood Casey super blue as well on my New England firearms 410 single shot, how ever my barrel is a grayish color instead of black or dark blue. I ruffed it up alittle with 0000 steel wool, decreased with acetone while wearing gloves, then ruffed up alittle more yet it’s still grayish. Did yours turn out the same way?
Ok thanks for your time and suggestions, I think I’ll try soaking it in motor oil over night because I read on a forum it will soak into the metal and darken it
I found out the hard way stainless steel won't blue. At least not on the Ontario Rat 2 knife with D2 steel. I've seen stainless can be blued using heat, but I don't have that kind of equipment.
I have a question dude ... how much stronge brechwood casey super blue is ?.... I am a stupid 23 year old boy and i mistakley remove my ak47 rust with acid .. the acid remove some finish of my ak47 so .. if i use super blue on ak ... how much its strong ?
worior 786 no way to give you a strength rating. You can apply multiplayer coats I ting you get the coverage or darkness of tint you want. It is not as strong as a factory finish or a hot applied blueing by a gunsmith but will get you by.
@@wcknives u are expert on it sir for my satisfection if i ask you to give me marks about the strongnes of this product how much u give me ? For example after watching your video for me its work 10/10 ... U are experienced person so how much u give ... Because i am live in pakistan and my family members live in UK so i orderd this product from there thats why i satisfied my self that it is good for me ...
worior 786 sorry but it is not a strength material. It is a day like to dye your shoes not a coating so strength can not be rated and I’m not an expert on anything.
220 grit is course as hell. No courser then 800 when bluing.maybe 600 iff it is a beater gun.When i make knives i stopp at 1200 and maybe 0000 steelwool and polish by hand or a wheel. but hey
Say Heah William, What a concept a blued knife blade, I have a knife that's blued my Worlds Finest Camp Knife, But all around the outer perimeter is mirror polished, It's a beauty. ,, .
i'll tell ya' Will, never been a fan of cold bluing I don't think it lasts as long or protects as good as hot dip, but that might just be me. one thing I do know though is the Birchwood is better than the Hoppes stuff!
+keith moore Only tried the material and method shown in this video, you may be right I don't know. The blueing used here lasted for about ten years even with a poor initial job on my part. We will see how the latest application holds up.
William Collins you may have got a better batch than I did but let me warn you about the hopes brushes, I've had at least 5 brushes and 2 mops come apart in the barrel i'd avoid them if I was you! personally I stick with either outers or kleenbore for rod tips I've never had a problem with them and even wore out they work better than new hopes!!
As I learned years ago for the "Gun Safety" Merit Badge in the Boy Scouts, a gun is ALWAYS loaded. That was Rule #1. I don't know of any courses in today's world that teaches that simple rule and most people don't know it or what it means. My experience, anyway.
th-cam.com/video/H-5RGiCD5lc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/82v8LAduJI0/w-d-xo.html Just my opinion, but you should really bottle cork up both ends of the barrel, just in case some bluing gets in there as it will carry on activating which as you know is a excellerator of rust and will cause pitting in the barrel, these two links above are just something for you to ponder over, I enjoyed your video, thank you.
It doesn't look too difficult and really isn't. I did this to my Model 94 Winchester 30-30 40+ years ago. I think it is about due for me to repeat the process again LOL!!! Thanks for reminding me. I guess I had better go out and pick up some Super Blue.
You can’t beat professional bluing (heat treated ) the blue lasts for many years in my opinion. Your way is also good method I’ve done it myself. Thanks for sharing
Bruce Evans have four guns in the living room right now and every one has a shell in the chamber. It has been that way in my house since I was a kid. All guns are loaded even when you think they are not. Amazing how many folks think a loaded gun is dangerous. It is how you treat guns that is dangerous. Always treat them as if they are loaded. I could have edited that part out but left it there to prove a point. The gun was loaded for the previous video. Read the comments.
Mike Honcho done addressing this. Read the other 100 responses to this same comment. Everyone gets hung up on a loaded gun. All my guns are loaded and no maintenance was done before the gun was unloaded. This is the second video of the day and I loaded it for the first video. However, if all guns were treated as if they are loaded then no one gets hurt. That is the message I intended to get across in the video but evidently very few seam to get it.
"Don't do what I just did!" at 2:23 of an 11:49 minute video that's supposed to be from someone showing you what to do with a gun. It really makes us comfortable watching the rest of the video. LOL
My last comment. The point is you had no idea it was a loaded firearm. Anyone could have walked in front of that firearm or even picked it up! You could have even fired that weapon thinking it was unloaded. You had NO IDEA
WAR KONG not likely because as I said in other comments where the gun is pointed is more important and in another comment I stated all guns must be treated as if they are loaded. I never dry fire a weapon but I do appreciate your concern.
My god did you really feel the need to make 5 comments complaining about the gun? Learn how to reply to the already created comment instead of adding 4 more
Rustblue.com is even better William. Duplicates the old military magnatite type finish...steam...Set up a simple steam tube and a cardbard box humidity cabinet. I just saw a video on it tonight and I was floored..
But he should have known that there is a cartridge in the chamber, especially if he kept the thing loaded most of the time. To be honest I don´t like those "ups" scenarios!
+Woodpecker The intent is to pretend the gun is always loaded whether it is or not so you are less likely to hurt yourself or others. In other words never point the gun at yourself or anyone else.
Of course you are right and I agree with everything you´ve said, but I must admit that I was a little irritated by seeing a gun on a workbench ready to get its barrel reblued and suddenly... "ups" there is a cartridge popping out of the chamber. Its just that I would have removed it before having turned on the camera. But that is just me...
I wouldn't let you within 10 feet of my gun collection!!!!! Loaded 12 ga. sitting on the bench indoors!!! Sandpaper on gun bbl! You are a hacker- however on a 30 dollar shotgun I wouldn't waste my time toying with it. In the end, all you have is a scratched up 30 dollar shotgun.
007cohiba appreciate your view and you are entitled to an opinion. I have other guns. Many worth several $1,000.00 but this is my favorite because of many things one of which I have no issues taking sandpaper to it when I want and treating it how I want because it is MY GUN and a little bit of fine sandpaper never hurt metal during a refinish. In fact sandpaper is always used during a refinish either you do it or you pay someone else to do it. As far as the shell in the camber as I said in the video treat all weapons as if they are loaded and you will be fine. In fact around my house all weapons are loaded at all times. They seam to work better when that are loaded.
007cohiba I guess it's a good thing that he didn't ask to go within 10 feet of your gun collection. Good video, my dad gave me a 12G last night that was rusted up pretty bad, it was my grandfathers. I haven't shot it yet, but I reblued it last night, I followed this method. Cant wait to see how it turns out.
Drums4Astraeus my favorite woods gun as explained in a video previous to this one. Appreciate your view and comment. Hope your refinish turns out as well as mine.
Drums4Astraeus also as a footnote I purchased this gun from a pawn shop several years ago and it was rusted and in very bad shape. I stripped the finish from the metal and wood and completely refinished all parts. It is a fantastic gun and has put meat on the table with every shot. Quality can not be measured in $'s.
Drums4Astraeus Several years back, I lived in North Battleford Sask. Canada. A friend I'll call George had a ranch several generations old. His gun collection held everything from WW1 up to the 1970's but he specialized in Winchesters. One was an original 1873 gold plated .44/40 which was presented to Chief Poundmaker by Winchester during the Riel Rebellion. It showed some signs of rust on the lever and forearm bands but IF you had tried to re-blue the bbl or polish it in any way, you would have made a 50000 dollar gun nearly worthless. The point is that be cautious as to what you attempt to restore - some OLD guns are worth a fortune.
WAR KONG this was the video I did just before bluing the gun video and this is why the gun was loaded on the work bench. No excuse but an explanation. But loaded guns doesn't bother me as much as where they are pointed. Loaded or unloaded. th-cam.com/video/XG7tbMjuHAY/w-d-xo.html
Dude you lost all credibility when you forgot to unload the weapon first. That is a very serious mistake its this mistake that usually results in injuries and deaths in most accidental/Negligent discharges. Rather it was from a prior video or not the fact you didn't check that damn gun before you even started filming it MUCH LESS BREAKING IT DOWN...and were breaking it down with one in the chamber is just DOUBLE FACEPALM. Then you went ahead and uploaded the video like that. You shouldn't be working on guns at all if you cant even remember to remove the live ammo from them first. Honest mistake fine but its also one that you made with live shells sitting right in front of you in the side saddle with an EMPTY SLOT in the saddle INVEST A CHAMBER FLAG YOU ARE FAR TOO FORGETFUL. There's no excuse for having missed an empty pocket in the side saddle with live ammo in front of you. How many times did you handle that gun and forget it was loaded or know it was loaded better yet then forget to check if it was loaded or simply unload it with "RED SHOTSHELLS" in the side saddle and an EMPTY POCKET? Sorry there's no excuse for that that was a negligent mistake big time. You always hear stories about people being murdered by some idiot who was cleaning a loaded gun well people here is how it happens COMPLACENCY and DISTRACTION. If you cant remember to unload your guns buy a cheap chamber flag or better yet DONT OWN THEM. Your negligence will get someone or yourself killed by the firearm you are giving instructions to work on.
ArmaGuyz not even going to address this again read the 100’s other responses and watch the whole video. A unloaded weapon is useless and all my guns are loaded.
Steve Smith you could look at it that way and I could have edited that part out so narrow minded viewers wouldn’t know I am human and everyone makes mistakes or you could recognize the lesson in the video and the importance of treating all firearms as if they are loaded and appreciate it for that. But for some I guess the lesson is lost.
WAR KONG yep, nothing I did was careless. The gun has to be pointing at someone and the trigger pulled. None of those thing will happen with me on any weapon, unless it is intended.
WAR KONG LOL, that is one opinion. Funny how after over 50 years of having loaded guns in the house and work bench there hasn't been one accident around me. Must be doing something right. Could be how I was taught at a very young age how to treat guns and alway assume they are loaded. I do see your point and probably in someone else's home that would be very dangerous. Also, I could have edited that out of the video but instead decided to use it as a teaching moment. "Always treat a gun as if it is loaded". I think that is better than saying never have a loaded gun. Appreciate the chat and your concern.
LOL, sorry you’re lost. There have been, and still is loaded guns stored all over my house from the time I was born till today. If you teach your children to treat all guns as if they are loaded then guns are not a problem. It is the lack of parenting and education. An unloaded gun is useless. Keep yours unloaded and in a locked cabinet with a combination if you like. I will have mine ready and able when they are needed.
To be honest your attitude reflects the average careless gun owner with the i have been around guns all my life and never had an accident. Or the it won't happen to me I'm a professional. If you were so great with firearms that would have never happen in the first place! It was a careless mistake that could have hurt or killed someone. Stop trying to down play it! It was a beginner gun owner mistake
WAR KONG OK, we are not going to see eye to eye on this your think it was a problem I don't , I understand why you would think that but I think it is safe to say we are from two very different cultures and think about guns in a different way. So I think you said your piece and I explained my thoughts on it. I do wish you a good evening but this needs to end because it isn't getting anywhere.
Thomas Caprari really dude, this was the second video in a row. I loaded it in the previous video but you should treat all guns as loaded. Ready the other 100 responses to this same comment. It is astounding how many people freak out about a loaded gun. All my guns are loaded and have been loaded all my life. They have never hurt anyone because they are treated as loaded.
@@wcknives yes that's true but this idiot wasn't treating that one is it was loaded he's tearing it apart while I freaking shells in it he's lucky you didn't blow his freaking brains out.
The barrel was a long ways from my head and you never point a gun at something you don’t want to shoot so being loaded or not dose not matter if you treat it as it’s loaded.
Thomas Caprari and as explained in these comments before I could have edited that part out but left it in as an educational item to always treat a gun as loaded but not many people seam to understand that and assume that anyone who does not conform to their way of thinking or personal perfection is an idiot...well appreciate your view. I have responded to this part of the video 100’s of times already. Wish folks would read the comments before making assumptions and commenting.
Thanks, this is just what I needed. Re-bluing an old 22. BTW I'm 60 and only mistakenly left a shell in the chamber once but kudos to you for not editing it out. We're all human and it's a good reminder.
Just bought a new used H & R 12 gauge model 088 single that needs refinishing. Plan to do a video on that when I can get the time in a few weeks. Appreciate your view and thoughts.
I do this with permanent blue as well. But the 2 things I do differently is I take and sand the barrel down to the bare metal and never blue over existing bluing. It just makes it more even and after I let it set in between coats I wipe it down with warm water instead of cold or really hot water. I found it just helps the process and also makes the bluing darker. I also degrease with alcohol a couple times after I sand it down to the bare metal. And use medical gloves to keep from getting oils from my hands on the surface then finish with a light coat of oil on it wiping it down to take off all the excess oils. I have a gun I did about 15 years ago and it is still in great condition.
If you use HOT water the process will go faster and the bluing will be deeper.. heating the metal a bit is always a good idea. Also not that you want my opinion but as a gunsmith myself i use vans instant gun blue, it is FAR better than anything I've ever seen before. highly recommended.
Appreciate your view and sharing your experience.
Thanks for sharing. I just used a little rust remover on a 1944 mosin. I didn't realize it would take the old blueing off and kind of panicked. This looks super easy and now I'm excited for my next project.
what I normally do is to put the super Blue into a separate container.(little mounts at time) that way you do not contaminate the bottle from anyting off the piece you're bluing.And you're bottle is still fresh and clean. nicely done thanks for sharing..
Best ending to any video I have heard. Sound advice Monsieur Collins .Respect from Europe.
hey my friend just a tip my father in law used to heat it gently with a heat gun and man that blue would sink in like a pro nice job as always atb ....tom
+kabaruser Appreciate the tip.
Excellent video...I have blued several guns over the years along with more than a few knives. Super blue is my go to for all things like this. For knives which are harder steel I find it takes 4-6 coats buffed with OOOO steel wool in between.
+Jerry Morris Appreciate your input!
Yep. That's how it's done folks. I browned my old Glenfield 68 .22 with vinegar in much the same way. I heated the barrel up on my wood stove first. Turned out great after 3 coats buffed with steel wool in between. Holds up pretty good too. Give it a try if you got an old beater sitting around.
+briargoatkilla Thanks Bud!
You are right! Go do something even if its wrong. its ok to pay the cost of learning. Thanks for the encouragement about bluing a gun.
Excellent video I like how you take your time and show different ways of doing the cold brewing and your methods and make it look easy and doable I like that thank you sir have a great day
Turned out pretty nice Mr. Collins. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, appreciate your view and comment.
Thanks sir for the video very informative
Actually you solved my problem and saved my money 😊 Bec I spent so much money on my guns restoration .
My hands are sweating and when I hold the gun specially shotgun my finger prints appear on it in few days makes it rusty and I think many people have that problem .
But now I got solution 😊 thanks again sir .
And GOD bless you.
Good video 👍 keep up the great tradition of taking care of your hunting weapon. I've tried the same blueing method you use. Only problem I've had is streaking and blueing not lasting as long as I would like but I'll try more coats and see how that works out. Either way I can't afford the professional hot blueing jobs. Thanks for the great advice.
Before 2nd coat, & rinse, wipe down with " 0000 " steel wool. Then rinse ,then reapply.
Thank-you for the tutorial and the finishing sentiments, totally agree!
Thank you for your help, advice commentary. I found it all very helpful. Thank you.
Looks great. But you cleaned it with alchol then handled it with bare hands leaving oils.
Oregon's Lonewolf blueing worked so must have not made a difference.
I always thought the key to a successful cold blue job was proper surface prep. At least that was the difference between the bad and good jobs I did over the years!
Probably important for sure. Appreciate your view and comment.
I am a huge fan of the Birchwood Casey Cold Blue. I use it on a lot of the firearms I mod and or fix. One thing I have noticed is the blue really seems to like a coat of oil immediately following the last application when it is "cured" as per the directions. When that oil hits it it turns a really nice deep blue almost black color. It's almost like icing on a cake.
+Steven “Shooter11b” Szabo Appreciate the info.
I never had much luck with Birchwood Casey blues. The best blue for me was a "touchup" blue I bought years ago from Numerich Arms (now Gun Parts Corp.). The stuff worked so well I used the last of it to re-blue an old Model 67 .22 Winchester rifle. That rifle looks as good today as the day I blued it. Sadly, I cannot for the life of me remember the name of the touchup blue. :(
mnpd3 Man that sounds like really good stuff. I wish you could remember it's name. Do you think they still make it?
New to this, but I recently experienced what I've seen others mention with applying a light coat of oil right after ( not rinsing off the last blueing application. It continues to darken for a bit under the oil coat.
@@donavonrobbins1908 ROGER THAT, IT IS AN ESSENTIAL FINAL STEP.
"Your way", you mean the way the bottle says?
Dennis DeCicco don't know if I followed the instructions word for word or not but I am saying it is the way I do it but not the only way to blue anything.
Just thought you had an original tip....
Dennis DeCicco sorry to disappoint you!
You definitely left it on there longer than 45 seconds
Hi One thing I learned long ago, Don't dip the cotton ball into the bottle! You are contaminating the fresh liquid (Plus if you are a bit clumsy you can spill the lot!) better to pour some into a small container and re cap the bottle! Other than that a great video thanks!!!
Good tip!
I just done a single barrel spartan remington 12ga. Barrel turned out great after 2 coats. The action not so much. I done put 6 coats on the action and used the 0000 wool between each session and several other things and wouldn't darken anymore than it had darken after the 2nd coat. I tried make it dark as the original factory finish, it wouldn't do. I tried everything the super blue the perma blue the gel nothing worked even let set anywhere from 1-5 min to even an hour still wouldn't get any darker. It's like a bright black if that makes sense. Finally got tired messing with it after 3 days slapped the oil on it let it set and called it dandy. Daggum headache dealing with it.
That's because your action was likely alloy instead of steel. Cold Blue process works best on steel
@@MichealBacon 🤷♂️ my first run re-bluing with cold blue so can't really complain.
About 50 years ago my Dad helped me refinish my shotgun. The blueing that was available back then is better than the stuff they sell today. Probably EPA related.
Many things were better 50 years ago before regulations. They they try to hide that fact with gadgets and high tech that only last so long. Appreciate your view and thoughts.
Looks good. I am fixing to do my double barrel. It is older than me and needs it. Thanks
+dalton vickers Thanks!
Awesome video ! Thank you so much .. I'm doing this as I watch this video.Amazing job Sir .
Thank you!
I would use finer sandpaper and 4 ought steel wool. Also, there are tons of videos on blueing guns but very few on fixing rust spots on old guns that sat in a closet for 20 years. I have one with perfect bluing except for 3 or 4 areas where there is some good old thumb print sized rust I have to fix. Can this be fixed?
Sure, may have to take it down to bare metal in those areas and then apply the blue.
Nice video , quite informative and easy process , thank you ❤️
Why didn't you just restart video after shell popped out?
Tom B. i explained why in the video.
@@wcknives I'm sorry sir, I missed it... the boss (aka wife, was talking to me.)
Sir❤❤
What do you do with this single-shot shotgun?
Here is a playlist. Deer and small game hunting.th-cam.com/play/PLlbS3ilO_URpKEo8NyxGLUc1IR_qmqPgo.html&si=AeBChJHpTdfyY4a-
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@@wcknives ❤❤
I used this exact product on my shotgun barrel I found it looked a little blue /grey when I finished
TheYjmfan keep layering coats until you get the darker shade you want.
William Collins thanks yes it was just an experiment to tidy the gun, it still looks a lot better than it did, but your right definitely more coats.thanks for the video.
If it’s not blue/black then ur leaving it set too long before you wash it in water, 30 seconds tops , 20 seconds is better
I just used the Birchwood Casey super blue as well on my New England firearms 410 single shot, how ever my barrel is a grayish color instead of black or dark blue. I ruffed it up alittle with 0000 steel wool, decreased with acetone while wearing gloves, then ruffed up alittle more yet it’s still grayish. Did yours turn out the same way?
Mine is almost black. Not sure what would cause grey may be the brand.
William Collins it’s the same brand as what your useing
William Collins it is also the same gun just in 410 so I know it’s not the steel
OK, I'm out of suggestions. Don't know what happened. May need to keep applying coats till it darkens.
Ok thanks for your time and suggestions, I think I’ll try soaking it in motor oil over night because I read on a forum it will soak into the metal and darken it
I have a 12 GA just like this one I blue it a week ago
Can I blue a Olympic barbell?
I used perma blue on my shotgun on the main frame it turned brown is that normal
Probably not. Applying more coats may be needed.
Can you do inside the barrel ? Or on other internal parts ?
Never tried but if you can reach the area with the blueing process then don’t see why not.
I found out the hard way stainless steel won't blue. At least not on the Ontario Rat 2 knife with D2 steel. I've seen stainless can be blued using heat, but I don't have that kind of equipment.
Use a heat gun or hair dryer. It will open the pores of the metal.
I have a question dude ... how much stronge brechwood casey super blue is ?....
I am a stupid 23 year old boy and i mistakley remove my ak47 rust with acid .. the acid remove some finish of my ak47 so .. if i use super blue on ak ... how much its strong ?
worior 786 no way to give you a strength rating. You can apply multiplayer coats I ting you get the coverage or darkness of tint you want. It is not as strong as a factory finish or a hot applied blueing by a gunsmith but will get you by.
@@wcknives u are expert on it sir for my satisfection if i ask you to give me marks about the strongnes of this product how much u give me ?
For example after watching your video for me its work 10/10 ...
U are experienced person so how much u give ...
Because i am live in pakistan and my family members live in UK so i orderd this product from there thats why i satisfied my self that it is good for me ...
worior 786 sorry but it is not a strength material. It is a day like to dye your shoes not a coating so strength can not be rated and I’m not an expert on anything.
@@wcknives i get it dude i appreciated.. thanks for you time god bless you
So, does it stay on for 45 seconds...
Or 45 seconds after it's applied?
This was on for about 3 minds before it was wiped down.
Longer it’s left in the darker the patina. Whatever works best for you.
@@wcknives aah I see, I'm not so nervous now- thanks!
Definitely going to give it a go
Thank you sir for that informative video.
Now what if I used Perma Blue instead? Would any if the steps change?
The Raine Network not sure. Have to read the instructions on the bottle but I would think cold blueing is the same with all brands.
So this video came out twi years ago and so time has passed. How is the bluing holding up?
The Raine Network looks just like the day I applied it.
Thanks
Great info. Thanks.
well didn't you pick up some of the dust off the same work area you just sanded over?? I would think about using butcher paper for each step ??
I did say in the title this was my way and I'm very happy with my results.
Great video, thanks.
ramon gabatel you're very welcome. Appreciate your view and comment.
220 grit is course as hell. No courser then 800 when bluing.maybe 600 iff it is a beater gun.When i make knives i stopp at 1200 and maybe 0000 steelwool and polish by hand or a wheel. but hey
Morten Trolle appreciate your thoughts and view.
Thank you for a great video. It helped me a lot.
lad you liked it and appreciate your support.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Do I need to remove the old blueing?
neshobanakni I don't, I just rough up the surface a bit with the fine sandpaper.
Say Heah William, What a concept a blued knife blade, I have a knife that's blued my Worlds Finest Camp Knife, But all around the outer perimeter is mirror polished, It's a beauty. ,, .
GREAT JOB , GREAT VIDEO ...
Thanks!
Where can I get some of those "little dobbers"?
Jeremy Black probably Amazon. They have everything.
What brand of wool daubers do you use? Several reviews of many brands complain about lint.
Right on sir. Thank you for the video. Subscribed.
Thanks, welcome to y channel.
i'll tell ya' Will, never been a fan of cold bluing I don't think it lasts as long or protects as good as hot dip, but that might just be me. one thing I do know though is the Birchwood is better than the Hoppes stuff!
+keith moore Only tried the material and method shown in this video, you may be right I don't know. The blueing used here lasted for about ten years even with a poor initial job on my part. We will see how the latest application holds up.
William Collins you may have got a better batch than I did but let me warn you about the hopes brushes, I've had at least 5 brushes and 2 mops come apart in the barrel i'd avoid them if I was you! personally I stick with either outers or kleenbore for rod tips I've never had a problem with them and even wore out they work better than new hopes!!
Good job you make it so easy
Why did you take the steel wool to it in between the first and second coat?
To rough up the steel so the dye will penetrate better.
Just did my Winchester model 69a this way. Worked great! Thanks
It helps to remove the fine power that is left behind when it dries
isn't it bad to get water inside of the barrel?
Jason McIntosh not if you dry and oil it after. If you could get guns wet you could use them in the rain.
I stopped watching when the shell fell out. Well done buddy.
lorelei whitcombe well you missed a good teaching moment and tutorial.
❤️These types of Americans.
No games...
As I learned years ago for the "Gun Safety" Merit Badge in the Boy Scouts, a gun is ALWAYS loaded. That was Rule #1. I don't know of any courses in today's world that teaches that simple rule and most people don't know it or what it means. My experience, anyway.
Aye realled liked it, share the same thoughts "do it yourself " cant wait to try a few gauges and rifles i have
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Just my opinion, but you should really bottle cork up both ends of the barrel, just in case some bluing gets in there as it will carry on activating which as you know is a excellerator of rust and will cause pitting in the barrel, these two links above are just something for you to ponder over, I enjoyed your video, thank you.
Appreciate your view and suggestions. Well done on your renovation.
thank you.
What are the prize of this bottle
Shahab Khan not sure now. This was a few years ago.
@@wcknives do you deliver this bottle to Pakistan
Shahab Khan I do not sell this. You will have to order it from someone else.
Thank you sir 👍
good job.
It doesn't look too difficult and really isn't. I did this to my Model 94 Winchester 30-30 40+ years ago. I think it is about due for me to repeat the process again LOL!!! Thanks for reminding me. I guess I had better go out and pick up some Super Blue.
+campfire52 LOL, yep could be a good idea. You're welcome!
You can’t beat professional bluing (heat treated ) the blue lasts for many years in my opinion. Your way is also good method I’ve done it myself. Thanks for sharing
To clarify: Bluing (hot or cold) is not the same as heat treating. Not trying to be rude, but i want to make sure we are not spreading misinformation.
thank you for your help love the video
+Carl Heitzenrater Thanks!
You lost me when that shell fell out of the chamber.
Bruce Evans have four guns in the living room right now and every one has a shell in the chamber. It has been that way in my house since I was a kid. All guns are loaded even when you think they are not. Amazing how many folks think a loaded gun is dangerous. It is how you treat guns that is dangerous. Always treat them as if they are loaded. I could have edited that part out but left it there to prove a point. The gun was loaded for the previous video. Read the comments.
@@wcknives you just shouldn't perform basic maintenance with a round in the chamber. Step 1 every time is to make the gun safe
Mike Honcho done addressing this. Read the other 100 responses to this same comment. Everyone gets hung up on a loaded gun. All my guns are loaded and no maintenance was done before the gun was unloaded. This is the second video of the day and I loaded it for the first video. However, if all guns were treated as if they are loaded then no one gets hurt. That is the message I intended to get across in the video but evidently very few seam to get it.
William Collins I do and agree with you.
@@wcknives you're not getting it. Step 1 is always unload unless you're shooting.
"Don't do what I just did!" at 2:23 of an 11:49 minute video that's supposed to be from someone showing you what to do with a gun. It really makes us comfortable watching the rest of the video. LOL
Talkative bluejays in your yard!
That’s what happens when you live in the country. 😁
I've never seen anyone sand so fast !...OK.....any ideas on case hardening the old school way ?.......PAPA DUKES
+john rossi LOL, got nothing on case hardening, sorry.
great vid
+Jordan Hyland Thanks!
My last comment. The point is you had no idea it was a loaded firearm. Anyone could have walked in front of that firearm or even picked it up! You could have even fired that weapon thinking it was unloaded. You had NO IDEA
WAR KONG not likely because as I said in other comments where the gun is pointed is more important and in another comment I stated all guns must be treated as if they are loaded. I never dry fire a weapon but I do appreciate your concern.
My god did you really feel the need to make 5 comments complaining about the gun? Learn how to reply to the already created comment instead of adding 4 more
kind of surprised that so much effort would be made to clean, only to lay it down, over and over, on a dirty piece of plywood.
Used to work in a gunshop Will. I never cross contaminate new cold blueing with used swabs. Brownells Oxpho Blue is great stuff too.
mark burress appreciate the tip and view.
Rustblue.com is even better William. Duplicates the old military magnatite type finish...steam...Set up a simple steam tube and a cardbard box humidity cabinet. I just saw a video on it tonight and I was floored..
Don’t you have to use clean no double dipping 😅😅
Good idea I will stop watching your videos for now ,and going out side catch some vitamin D. Thanks for a real good video.
Heres my philosophy on guns, Always treat a firearm like its loaded, cause if it aint loaded, it aint no good.
+Timmy D Good philosophy!
But he should have known that there is a cartridge in the chamber, especially if he kept the thing loaded most of the time. To be honest I don´t like those "ups" scenarios!
+Woodpecker The intent is to pretend the gun is always loaded whether it is or not so you are less likely to hurt yourself or others. In other words never point the gun at yourself or anyone else.
Of course you are right and I agree with everything you´ve said, but I must admit that I was a little irritated by seeing a gun on a workbench ready to get its barrel reblued and suddenly... "ups" there is a cartridge popping out of the chamber. Its just that I would have removed it before having turned on the camera. But that is just me...
Woodpecker he included the incident in the video to educate others
Protect your eyes as this cold blue will blind you in minutes if you get a splash.....
Holy Cow that shotgun was loaded
WAR KONG yep, and it is loaded now sitting in the corner. Not much good if it ain't.
@@wcknives EXACTLY! It's merely a piece of decoration or a fun toy if it's not useful when you need it! Dang, I hate what this country has become...
A video where he didn't check the chamber 500 times and OOPS!!🤣🤣
if you put it in water won't it get rust in the Barrel ? lol
Not if you give it a good coat of oil after your done to displace the water.
I wouldn't let you within 10 feet of my gun collection!!!!! Loaded 12 ga. sitting on the bench indoors!!! Sandpaper on gun bbl!
You are a hacker- however on a 30 dollar shotgun I wouldn't waste my time toying with it. In the end, all you have is a scratched up 30 dollar shotgun.
007cohiba appreciate your view and you are entitled to an opinion. I have other guns. Many worth several $1,000.00 but this is my favorite because of many things one of which I have no issues taking sandpaper to it when I want and treating it how I want because it is MY GUN and a little bit of fine sandpaper never hurt metal during a refinish. In fact sandpaper is always used during a refinish either you do it or you pay someone else to do it. As far as the shell in the camber as I said in the video treat all weapons as if they are loaded and you will be fine. In fact around my house all weapons are loaded at all times. They seam to work better when that are loaded.
007cohiba I guess it's a good thing that he didn't ask to go within 10 feet of your gun collection.
Good video, my dad gave me a 12G last night that was rusted up pretty bad, it was my grandfathers. I haven't shot it yet, but I reblued it last night, I followed this method. Cant wait to see how it turns out.
Drums4Astraeus my favorite woods gun as explained in a video previous to this one. Appreciate your view and comment. Hope your refinish turns out as well as mine.
Drums4Astraeus also as a footnote I purchased this gun from a pawn shop several years ago and it was rusted and in very bad shape. I stripped the finish from the metal and wood and completely refinished all parts. It is a fantastic gun and has put meat on the table with every shot. Quality can not be measured in $'s.
Drums4Astraeus Several years back, I lived in North Battleford Sask. Canada. A friend I'll call George had a ranch several generations old. His gun collection held everything from WW1 up to the 1970's but he specialized in Winchesters. One was an original 1873 gold plated .44/40 which was presented to Chief Poundmaker by Winchester during the Riel Rebellion. It showed some signs of rust on the lever and forearm bands but IF you had tried to re-blue the bbl or polish it in any way, you would have made a 50000 dollar gun nearly worthless.
The point is that be cautious as to what you attempt to restore - some OLD guns are worth a fortune.
Its one thing sitting in a corner for self defense and its another thing to be working on it loaded!
WAR KONG this was the video I did just before bluing the gun video and this is why the gun was loaded on the work bench. No excuse but an explanation. But loaded guns doesn't bother me as much as where they are pointed. Loaded or unloaded. th-cam.com/video/XG7tbMjuHAY/w-d-xo.html
What the hell? "Lemme just start disassembling this firearm. Whoops, it's still loaded." Really adds to the credibility 👎
i believe 220 way to much, best nothing less then 600 for sure
Worked well for me and still nice and blue after many years.
William Collins well as we all say what ever makes job done is good, jut even with 400 i could see a good bit of scrathes on mine
Double dipper, but good life advice.
Ithaca 12 gauga
Never apologize for a loaded gun. Thugs are everywhere, thanks to the civil rights movement.
7min in i new u fked it up then, u left the blueing on too long before rinsing
Really??? I thought it finished very nicely and still looks awesome now years later.
Dude you lost all credibility when you forgot to unload the weapon first. That is a very serious mistake its this mistake that usually results in injuries and deaths in most accidental/Negligent discharges. Rather it was from a prior video or not the fact you didn't check that damn gun before you even started filming it MUCH LESS BREAKING IT DOWN...and were breaking it down with one in the chamber is just DOUBLE FACEPALM. Then you went ahead and uploaded the video like that. You shouldn't be working on guns at all if you cant even remember to remove the live ammo from them first. Honest mistake fine but its also one that you made with live shells sitting right in front of you in the side saddle with an EMPTY SLOT in the saddle
INVEST A CHAMBER FLAG YOU ARE FAR TOO FORGETFUL. There's no excuse for having missed an empty pocket in the side saddle with live ammo in front of you. How many times did you handle that gun and forget it was loaded or know it was loaded better yet then forget to check if it was loaded or simply unload it with "RED SHOTSHELLS" in the side saddle and an EMPTY POCKET? Sorry there's no excuse for that that was a negligent mistake big time.
You always hear stories about people being murdered by some idiot who was cleaning a loaded gun well people here is how it happens COMPLACENCY and DISTRACTION.
If you cant remember to unload your guns buy a cheap chamber flag or better yet DONT OWN THEM. Your negligence will get someone or yourself killed by the firearm you are giving instructions to work on.
ArmaGuyz not even going to address this again read the 100’s other responses and watch the whole video. A unloaded weapon is useless and all my guns are loaded.
Hard to believe somebody would make a video working on a firearm that was loaded. What a bonehead.
Steve Smith you could look at it that way and I could have edited that part out so narrow minded viewers wouldn’t know I am human and everyone makes mistakes or you could recognize the lesson in the video and the importance of treating all firearms as if they are loaded and appreciate it for that. But for some I guess the lesson is lost.
Only takes one careless mistake to kill someone
WAR KONG yep, nothing I did was careless. The gun has to be pointing at someone and the trigger pulled. None of those thing will happen with me on any weapon, unless it is intended.
You are why gun accidents happen
WAR KONG LOL, that is one opinion. Funny how after over 50 years of having loaded guns in the house and work bench there hasn't been one accident around me. Must be doing something right. Could be how I was taught at a very young age how to treat guns and alway assume they are loaded. I do see your point and probably in someone else's home that would be very dangerous. Also, I could have edited that out of the video but instead decided to use it as a teaching moment. "Always treat a gun as if it is loaded". I think that is better than saying never have a loaded gun. Appreciate the chat and your concern.
So much cross contamination in this i couldn't finish watching
You lost me having stored a loaded gun. "I made a previous video". Doesn't fly.
LOL, sorry you’re lost. There have been, and still is loaded guns stored all over my house from the time I was born till today. If you teach your children to treat all guns as if they are loaded then guns are not a problem. It is the lack of parenting and education. An unloaded gun is useless. Keep yours unloaded and in a locked cabinet with a combination if you like. I will have mine ready and able when they are needed.
@@wcknives well said my friend. Have a great day!!
To be honest your attitude reflects the average careless gun owner with the i have been around guns all my life and never had an accident. Or the it won't happen to me I'm a professional. If you were so great with firearms that would have never happen in the first place! It was a careless mistake that could have hurt or killed someone. Stop trying to down play it! It was a beginner gun owner mistake
WAR KONG OK, we are not going to see eye to eye on this your think it was a problem I don't , I understand why you would think that but I think it is safe to say we are from two very different cultures and think about guns in a different way. So I think you said your piece and I explained my thoughts on it. I do wish you a good evening but this needs to end because it isn't getting anywhere.
War Kong just shut the HELL up!!! You're beginning to bore the hell out of me.
Really dude you just did that never checked a gun to see if it was loaded before you started messing with it unbelievable.
Thomas Caprari really dude, this was the second video in a row. I loaded it in the previous video but you should treat all guns as loaded. Ready the other 100 responses to this same comment. It is astounding how many people freak out about a loaded gun. All my guns are loaded and have been loaded all my life. They have never hurt anyone because they are treated as loaded.
@@wcknives yes that's true but this idiot wasn't treating that one is it was loaded he's tearing it apart while I freaking shells in it he's lucky you didn't blow his freaking brains out.
The barrel was a long ways from my head and you never point a gun at something you don’t want to shoot so being loaded or not dose not matter if you treat it as it’s loaded.
Thomas Caprari and as explained in these comments before I could have edited that part out but left it in as an educational item to always treat a gun as loaded but not many people seam to understand that and assume that anyone who does not conform to their way of thinking or personal perfection is an idiot...well appreciate your view. I have responded to this part of the video 100’s of times already. Wish folks would read the comments before making assumptions and commenting.