I Bought A Cheap BMW E60 M5 And It Took A S*** Immediately...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- With the mindset of YOLO, I finally decided to try my luck at owning a legendary BMW E60 M5. A few minutes after purchasing it, I quickly came to the realization that I made a mistake. I've never experienced buyer's remorse so fast in my life. Wish me luck. I am going to need it.
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Previous owner must be one hell of a salesman 🤣🤣🤣
I think he bought it knowing it was worse than said just for us Lol and I appreciate it lol
it was probably dirt cheap
you got that right! 🤣🤣🤣
Facebook Marketplace can be a bitch sometimes!
100% was a $10k shitter off marketplace
Sounds like that previous owner was full of sh*t lol. Manual swap would be epic. This build process is going to be painful but incredible when it's all done.
I would be pissed 😂 hopefully he didn’t pay too much for it
Rather do a DCT or ZF8 swap.
@@iSwaggs2000 The 8HPs fit on the M5s?
Manual could be reliable for this kind of V10 engine tho I'm not so sure about modern dual clutch trans
@@Frank-vk4sv not sure but i’m sure it could at least with an adapter or so with turbolamik TCU. Would love to see the ZF8HP70 or DCT on an S85. I’m sure the DCT would be mostly plug and play since it was on the S65 could be wrong tho. Just would be interesting for sure. I know it would be blistering fast with either transmission but the SMG is such a liability.
this man has a car for each day of the year
That’s how we gotta stay bro
@@Xoxo92qwhy?
Dudes my hero lmao
And his mom still somehow lives in a trap
@@its_giuliano7942 😂😂
Now this is content i can watch will be waiting to see what mods will be done and how to maintain it.
Imagine doing an actual DCT swap on the E60 from the F10😮
Would be easier to use the one from the E9X M3 and doing it to a manual e60 M5
Smg is faster and lighter than DCT in S6 mode.
BMW has done 1 car themselves, the BMW M5 E60 DCT DKG 25th Anniversary 😬
@@The_North0 definitely not faster than a dct what u smoking on
@@Scarlif3x yes, smg is actually faster than DCT in S6 mode. It has already been proven. The information is out there. Do a search
Definitely needs a manual swap. It’d probably increase the valve a decent amount too!
I have an E60 M5, but mine is manual so I didn't have any SMG issues.
When I bought it (at 89k miles), it had a CEL for Throttle Actuators which I replaced immediately. It also needed front brake rotors and upper control arms.
I did those and then drove it home 1000 miles with zero issues.
After I got home, I took it to get the road bearings, vanos line, and spark plugs done. Glad I did the bearings because despite a Blackstone analysis showing no concerns, the half of the bearings had a significant amount of copper. I also had to replace half of my coil packs as they the plastic part gets brittle and cracks, and unfortunately breaks apart when doing the spark plugs.
I have since driven the car 7000 miles of mostly spirited driving and road trips, and have had zero issues with the car. Let it warm up and change the oil, take care of it and it will be fine. Best of luck with it; these cars are sensational to drive and the "M" button really gives you two cars in one!
Love the E60 M5. Owned two of them myself and they were good to me for the most part. The SMG III is sluggish but boy that thing is a monster in S6 mode and WOT shifts. Most confidence instilling car I ever owned. Thing was like a train on rails driving high speed and curves. With proper suspension and tuning of course. Good luck with it. I hope to get another one sometime for my channel as well.
Loved mine too. Knew what I was getting myself into, but I just HAD to own one. Flat chat shifts were viscerally pleasurable. And the noise. And the throttle steer at high speed. And running it up from 2k revs in 2nd then having the wheels start spinning at 6.5k. Bonkers car.
E60 m5 I'd my dream car!! Heard the unreliability but still I WILL own one 💙 first got to get my business shifting 🙌
@@LAH92 if you can work on cars you can handle it, if not just have a bit of money stashed in case of issues. Good luck man you can do it 💪🏼
@@rtuned2287 cheers for the heads up buddy! I looked at getting 3rd party warranty and I think they quoted be £5k a year.... so that's saying something 😂.
All the best to you mate
I had an e60 m5 for five years and it was trouble free. Put on 50k+ miles. Did rod bearins and alternator. It was tracked too. SMG. Ive been trying to buy it back for sometime now.
Congrats on getting this legendary M5, I’m sure the car will be running flawlessly soon.
After about $10k. 😅
F10 has the nice trans but it ends there as far as the real driving experience. I liked it but couldn’t hear it. Lol. Sort your E60 and don’t look back!
@@TheFrenchPug per month 😅
@@tahditon9408 Lol! Hope it's not that bad :)
I have done a manual swap on one of these and finding/waiting for parts was the worst part. I have subscribed to see where this goes! Thanks for sharing your experience...
First thing you should do after buying E60, any one, not only M5 is changing battery to brand new and high quality. It mostly fix a lot of issues and codes, including transmission errors.
Yep. Happen to me. After a year of ownership my smg pump and coil packs went out and had to get a re-man. Good is since I got it fix I hadn't had any issues, and the car runs like a dream! Despite the momentarily set back I have no regrets owning my e63 m6. The sound and drive more than make up for it. You'll see 😊
I came close to buying one of these in 2008/9 instead I went for a one year old alpin white e92 M3. The confidence of factory warranty Vs no factory warranty for the older M5 was just too big a factor. I still hanker after a V10 though. Passion project all the way. Good luck.
Car Def needs an SMG Pump motor. Also your gonna need ISTA for this car, regular scan tools don't work too well with it.
100% true
The BMW warning chime just brings back trauma of things I would need to fix 😂
Take it apart, forged pistons, (OEM ones will crack with abuse) lighter rods, WPC treated the crank and bearings, Cryo treat the Vanos pump and WPC treat, 6 speed swap it, it'll be bullet proof.
Manual or DCT conversion ...
The S85 engines thirst for maintenance, is one thing, the hydraulic system on the SMG, is an entirely other evil animal ☠️!
Lord those and the E46 M3 SMG were my nightmare at the dealer I used to work at.
"Mechatronics", y'all about to become fluent in it! Lol
This car could legit, be a separate channel for you bro. ☠️
Tear that whole car down, and rebuild everything!
Wow!!! That just made me take a big gulp and it's not even mine. So the dude unloaded it on him.
This is the series I’ve been waiting for! M5 V10 was one of my dream cars but I’m afraid of the rod bearings and smg. Best of luck on this build, gonna be a beast once it’s complete!
If you do the rod bearings you're solid and you can beat on it the smg is not that scary
@@HalfAssBuilt I am super tempted dude! I currently have a work truck, so the M5 would only be a weekend car, but I can only find one v10 within a 100-mile radious from my house and it's an M6 Convertible. I really want the M5, love 4-door sports cars! Thanks for the advice too! Do you own one?
@Scary AF Entertainment I live in Cali so they are plentiful over here I have a e63 m6 that I track and a e60 m5 that has 227k miles on it. As long as you do the preventative you're solid on these cars maybe a hiccup here and there
Has one before , probably the issue with smg is flywheel with clutch , they say they switch smg pump but still check on that too !
The moment I would see those Falken tires on a M5 I already would start running
Check the ground from the engine to the body, and also the wiring for the gearbox behind the engine! Very nice car, Love Bmw V10 M5!!!
Had a friend who bought this same model M5 that was at a salvage auction as a vandalism case. Bought it and did the rod bearings and pretty much rebuilt it before anything broke more. And now the car is better than ever!
I had a 2010 m sport e60 535i and it was such an amazing car. It had better handling in the corners than my non m sport e90 335.
I also bought a e60 m5 couple months back 2008 with 85,000 mile I love that damn car so much after a week the SMG pump is fucked
Not an expert but please try a brand new battery. It might help since the electronics are sensitive and require certain voltages to properly operate. Good luck
If the battery is putting out 12.6 volts he should be good. But!!! It needs to be tested under load. I have been the victim of a gone dead battery while driving and the whole car felt like it was going to implode before it just stopped altogether. But when I metered it, the voltage was good! On my 4th battery now since 2009 (I don't drive it enough and can't put a battery tender on it where it's parked).
This is my dream car. I currently own an e90 335i. This channel is perfect. Thanks man.
Suicidal decision to create content for us 👌✨
A pregnant couple sold me a mint e90 335xi w/a "clean title" for $11k that was actually a total loss rebuilt from another state.... & the turbos took a shit the 1st week. Ended up putting 6-7k in maintenance & replacing turbos...Close to $20k total. Sold the car in December of 2021 for $4900 because I couldn't afford to replace the valve cover & invested it all into btc.... & a week later, the market crashed..I basically gave away $20k & never even got to drive the car outta town. Epic living nightmare. My life story. Never fall for the "baby on the way" scheme
Oh dude! The valve cover you could have done yourself :( Turbos I bought for $1300 for both (Vargas), $1500 Labor to install. Valve cover $60. Gasket $18. Very easy to do. I've done mine 4 times (once for practice).
I've daily driven my m6 for 7 years lol never had an issue besides changing the clutch once and one throttle body actuator. 200,000km on the dash red lining every gear. The amount of abuse I put it through i doubt any other car could endure with that minimal wear.
Yours wasnt an auto though which explains a lot.
@@ThecultofCon you clearly don't know much about cars lol.. it's an automated manual SMG it has a clutch.
@@moegamezzz3622 Automated manual? Do you ever stop to read things you are writing? Automated manual? That's an oxymoron. Your transmission is either auto or manual it cannot be both, therefore you are driving a cuck stick disguised as a manual. Designs like this only exist because losers who dont know how to drive stick have been getting shit on for decades and BMW is only catering to cucks by telling yall that your auto trans is somehow manual. Its not.
I bought a 2008 with 40 K that had a bunch of work and mods done to it. Twin G power superchargers exhaust carbon fiber hood and the list goes on and on. At 71,000 miles the SMG gave out. Sold it cheap to a BMW tuning shop.
Really common failure on the SMGIII. Sometimes you can just get away with replacing the electric motor in the pump (about $200) and not the whole pump assembly.
While you’ve got the box out, I would recommend also replacing the SMG hydraulic pressure sensor, as these can also go bad causing a red cog of death, and are a box-out fit.
Hopefully he can get this lucky. Don't you think that seller knew it was a paperweight but that the buyer could at least get it home?
@@TheFrenchPug indeed!
That said, the electric motor is the common failure point, but in typical BMW diagnosis hell, most techs replace the whole pump assembly
for that spark plug stg a wood screw, mechanics wire, and something to pry with i comes out like butter+ a little pb sometimes lmao we got the same thing on our shops m5
Had that same issue until I replaced the smg pum on mine that fix that problem
How much did it set you back?
E60 M5 with manual would be a dream. Lci conversion wouldn't be too bad choice either.
Please do a lci conversion, the e60 lci just looks so much nicer. Lci Taillights, headlights and the door panels and the car is a 10/10
I have one you can remove that ligth with a reset.
1.Turn off car
2.Turn the car into ACC
3. Press the gas pedal for 15 seconds and leave it press.
4. The ligth of the gear will go off and then turn the car on and drive normally.
I’ll never buy a used m off a private seller 😂😂I been driving beamers for 15 years don’t do it people that shit will light up like a Christmas tree
I am very anxious to see the development of this video.. I know you will turn this car brand new and she will put a smile on your face when you drive it an hundred per cent… can wait to see it… don’t give up on the car 👍👍👍👍🏎️🏎️🏎️🏎️
Finally, I have been waiting for so long for the e60 m5.
Congrats bro, can’t wait for the amazing content that will follows.
This is going to be a fun car to watch you make content on!
That V10 sound is absolutely gorgeous!!
I can't say this enough but don't buy used german performance anything without being ready to pay equal to double in maintenance and love. The guys who stay under 3k rpm until coolant AND oil are heated up (especially on turbos) are the ones who keep their cars. Dime a dozen. If you can't afford it new, or afford to buy it and secure an extended full coverage warranty then you simply can't afford it yet.
Best tip if you can't afford it yet, buy something super realiable and cheap. Cook your meals, don't go out drinking buy a bottle and save every penny for minmum a year and re-asses where you're at. You'll feel like you earned it and these problems will never be problems for you.
I have a BMW i found a lot of people forget to address a low battery/or old battery these cars have to have a battery operated at optimum level
E90 DCT Swap Project M5 👀
The active bolsters were an option. My '06 has them. But this car is an absolute love/hate relationship lol
Never should’ve gotten an SMG car😂😂 what a pricey mistake
With a good scanner to check pump pressure manually activate the pump and monitor pressure see if it rises. Its most likely the pump that needs replacement hit it multiple times you should hear an audible whine when activation occurs if its quiet then thats most like your problem
We have a similar story lol, i always had wanted one myself, so I picked up an 06 with 76k but the time it hit 82k the smg blew up clutch and all and when it went it locked up causing the engine to suddenly stop which took out the main oil pump.. long story short 6 months into ownership I had $15k worth of repairs on top of buying the car, turned out to be the worst vehicle decision I’ve ever made (by a long shot) bless anyone who decides to buy one of these cars
one of the several videos i expect in the next year; someone making others not want an e60. bro doesn’t know what needs to be serviced on these cars. once serviced they can break 150k miles. my e60 has 175k on a supercharged motor. only have replaced the clutch, throttle actuators and rod bearings once.
and no the active seats were not only on LCI cars. my 07 has all the options with all the buttons
You forgot to take notice that SMG means "SEVEN MORE GRAND" 😂😂😂
“Several/Seven More Grand” for mods, if your have a 6MT 😂😅😊
Finally bro!!! Goodluck though 😬
This isn’t what we want wanted Cristian, it’s what we needed 💪🏽 it’s giving me og 335i vibes Forsure
oof 06 m5 looks nice but man was that the beta test of the e60 m5
The tinted taillights and the bmw door lights tells me all I need to know about the previous owner
And the M5 window decals.
I love that when you are bleeping out things you use the bmw fault charm. Hilarious!
Also for the ibs re register the battery. Depending on the fault the alternator could have been overcharging the battery because it was never probably reregistered during change causing probably an over voltage shut off which maybe shut down some modules temporarily
half of the problems on car without counting engine, wire's are sht, IBS problem battery drainage, and stuff it sucks. Have e61 530D 285hp 610nm mainly electric problems that u have solve every month :D
You guys got enough bmws’, just buy a laptop with ista installed on it, Carly ain’t gonna cut it for the e60.
The black OEM wheels look great on this color.
How much did you pay for the m5?
For the SMG transmission I think there is A kit to convert it to manual so you will have less problems moving forward.
Manuals are way more reliable but if you got the money get that smg tranny a complete refresh
sounds like the ECU is having memory corruption? id send the ECU in and make your own harness / pull the one you got and inspect it
I cannot wait to see this, I want a e6x m5 m6 but I’m too scared. I’d love to see what it’s actually like to own one
The definition of a daily for your daily for your daily for your other daily😭
E60 M5 is extremely reliable car. I have 160,000 miles on mine. The guy who tried to diagnose the M5 doesn’t really know what he’s doing. First thing, he should’ve checked to see if there is pressure in the smg system. If there is no pressure the gear won’t move. In fact, smg pump can be rebuild. All you have to do is disassemble the smg pump motor and clean out the carbon build up. And maybe replace the carbon brushing and make sure the carbon brushing is not stuck in the holder. First of all, smg pump motor doesn’t cost $900. You can get a new one for about $400 from MLReng. You could use a probe tester to test the old smg pump on the bench, most of the time smg pumps can be repaired. Since this car is a 2006. It would not be a bad idea to replace all of the o-rings in the lower block and actuator block for solenoids. To replace the upper(actuator) block with o-rings with solenoids, the transmission will need to be removed from the car.
I have a feeling it's not major, or he wouldn't have been able to drive it home 2 hours away. The seller knew what to do to get him outta town.
E60 m5 is the most reliable car??? Dont lie to yourself 😂😂😂
Just because the whole diag process wasnt shown on video doesnt mean that i didnt check SMG pressure before trying anything else. And if you paid attention to the faults you would know that its not a pressure issue because most faults are related to VOLTAGE issues which is why ive tried everything voltage related before assuming that the pump is bad.
Yes im the guy that apparently dont know shit about SMGs
Weeeeird 🤔 how the car is fixed now and runs and drives fine……
@@SwapDepot where did I say e60 m5 is the most reliable. You’re making things up in your head. yea, e60 m5 is reliable car. It barely giving me any issue. Do you realize people who barely have issues with e60 m5 will not report it nor talk about it? It’s always the one who has problems with the car screaming and moaning about it online. Out of 11 years I owned the car, I only paid a total up to $2,500 to fix whatever is wrong with the car and put over 100,0000 miles on it excluding maintenance and gas. Again, you seems to missed my message. It’s definitely pressure issue because you mentioned the smg pump was the culprit. The only way for the car to build pressure is to have a working smg pump and the car is now working because you were throwing parts at it in attempts to fix the issue. I guarantee you don’t even need a new accumulator because e60 m5 smg accumulator has a extremely low failure rate. Having ista or inpa bmw software would’ve help you diagnose the car more effectively.
@@The_North0 great job liking your own comment and i call bs on that buuuut its ok whatever floats your boat
@@SwapDepot so you’re a mind reader? You know everything that’s going on in peoples lives to say bs? Do you claims to be second coming of Jesus? Do you realize I fixed my own cars which is why I only paid a total up to $2500 to fix whatever is wrong with my m5. Since you know it all I can’t be bother to comment anymore.
Been waiting for this.. e92 m3 next?
worth it if you can afford to maintain it. Bucket list car.. when it's running properly.
I just bought an m5 for under 5k too but mines in better condition than this surprisingly
FYI!!! if the seller put that the SMG pump was replaced in the listing that an implied warranty.. if you can prove its a lie, the seller owes you a pump..
Just make sure the SMG system is properly full of smg fluid. If its empty then it will give you all thesw types of issues your having mow
Try replacing the battery, the E9x throws trans codes when the battery is old
YESSS THE LEGENDARY E60
As if this would surprise ANYONE.
Said as a former E60 550i owner- loved that car.
Bro i want to send you pics my car and you rate it 😂 the detail depth you went into was fun to watch
Christian playing Pranks on himself 😂😂😂 I’m here for this rebuild cause it should be funny it’s a nice engine tho just rubbish transmission
I own a 6 speed swapped e60 and I can tell you - no matter what a SMG e60 says, it’s never a “small thing”
Convert it to DCT…. Clutch by wire and enjoy. Have the best of all worlds
smg solenoids top plate hydraulic switch valves
The options u mentioned are only for the 2006+ model year
You are super brave for buying this historical hunk of……..parts.
You should build this bad boy & do a give away like your e93, get some that money back lol 🔥
need lci head/taillights fasho
Put a new fully charged battery in it . With bmws the computers start to get glitchy as the battery gets older and looses optimal charge capacity. An old weak battery can set off a multitude of faults. No sense in throwing parts at it that will still show bad because the battery voltage isn't stable.
S85b50 is the best engine of ///5 but with the issue of rod bearing etc is a big headache. If all running perfectly, u will smile to ear for that experience. 😅
alot of the issues w e60 m5 seem to be SMG related. get a manual one!
Man this is better/interesting content. Wanna see this getting improved and more reliable with moree powerr
Should've walked sway once the transmission started throwing faults
Sounds like "your no plan" took shyt, I have 3 BMWs all running great.
Don't convert to manual, spend the money & keep it SMG
I tried to buy this car about 3 months ago I think. 168k chassis 72k drivetrain.
168k on a 2006 M5 is as scary as it can get.
I have a 2006 bmw m5 also bolt ons e85 comon maintenance is key to these cars i would recommend you try to replace battery had a similar issue on car shutting off on me ect turn out to be a battery issue make sure you have enough power before blaming on diff parts i learn the hard way 😂
That boy got the hot chip fingers
Welcome to E60 life, buy it then buy it again with repair costs. Still love it though
e92 M3 dct transmission swap and a light supercharger kit then heaven
There will never be a more fucking legendary sedan. Ever. E60 M5 is the GOAT!!
Sad to see an M5 in such rough shape :( It’s a shame they are so demanding to own. I’m in the market for a W211 E63 AMG instead lol
I love the other dudes honesty.
it might be as simple as replacing the battery. all your electrical faults may dissapear