2009 r1 engine rebuild | $2000 Yamaha r1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2018
- This is how i rebuilt a 2009 yamaha r1 with no special tools. This bike we got it and it had a terrible rod knock and we took it apart and found out that one of the connecting rod bearing overlapped each other. The cranks was slightly damaged so we sanded it down and installed brand new bearings on the connecting rod. We bought the bike for about $2000 dollars. It had a graves exhaust system that retails for $1500 and we spent $200 in parts to get it running. Probably one of the cheapest r1s in the country considering the performance exhaust that was installed. Hope you guys enjoyed the video.
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I imagine you realize just how lucky you are to spend time with your dad. Good on ya both! Thanks for sharing and what a nice bike!!! Stay up and ride safely!
Great to see you and your dad sharing a mechanical passion! Well done!!
dada i thought that was an 18 yr old mexican child
I already filming R 1 too.. but I never tear down the engine like this one. It's something new for me. thanks for sharing.
Great work 💪. Nice to see a father son bonding over an engine build
Maybe the best lesson you could teach your kids. Awesome video mainly son/father spending time learning and teaching on such an amazing machine like the Xplane R1. I love mine and consider it the best sportbike ever made for sound, power and handling feel. Thanks for sharing and congrats on getting her back up and running properly.
You have yourself a very special father.... great video, great father....
Glad your dad took the time to do this with you
you and your dad ROCK!
You have a cool dad my man. Great job on the cheap fix. I would have replaced the whole crankshaft lol.
Very good and useful video very helpful and thoughtful and put together,just perfect
I would definitely like more videos from you guys
Awesome work man 👍🏾
More dad's and sons should be doing this.
You solve the problem for a while biggest one is on the way. Winter is coming for this bike
Bro! Gracias por este video! Tengo una 2007. I'll be checking my bearings tonight. It was running weird and decided to drop the engine and inspect everything!
Thank you again for all the info!
David A. Gines glad you enjoyed it! It’s pretty simple. Id recommend using a micrometer to check the crank runout and plastic guague the bearings
@@thachileandude found out that 3 of my rods were knoking like yours.
Oh man that sucks :/
Repairs its that easyist way but, who is invated all these components is true king
Thanks for the knocking sound example
Sweet video I just recently picked up a 2004 R1 for $400. Needs new cases and a couple other parts to get it running again!!!!
Shane Jones awesome!! That’s crazy cheap!! Congratulations!! Best of luck with your build!!
Me aclaró algunas dudas de mi R1. Muy buen video. Slds.
I applaud your efforts to get your hands dirty but honestly this is not the way to do fix this spun bearing issue.
You literally need to pull the heads, block , transmission, each piston and rod. Every single part of this engine had to be pulled out, measured, and cleaned because every inch from the head to the oil pan has little shavings of bearing material from the original bearing that the crankshaft ate up. On top of that you need to take the heads, block , and cases to a machine shop to get hot tanked and completely boiled out because you can’t clean those oil galleries because you can’t reach them. So all those parts need to be hot tanked.
First start with the crankshaft. It needs to be checked for microscopic cracks. Especially a cross plane crankshaft. Now I worked as a Yamaha dealership tech and even tho we didn’t rebuild these we still had to semi disassemble these engines and pull the crankshaft out and measure it in order to get corporate authorization to replace their engine under warranty. And in all the Yamaha engines I pulled apart (and it was a lot. 09-11 r1 had issues with spun bearings due to oiling issue that was resolved in 12+ models). So anyway out of every crankshaft I ever pulled from a spun bearing cross plane R1 engine. Not a single one was re-usable or serviceable. Motorcycle in-line 4 cylinder crankshaft are not like the old Chevy V8 crankshafts. Sport bike in-line 4 crankshafts do NOT do well when turned with oversized bearings or even a polished journals. Once the crank pin out of round is out of spec or there is the slightest gouge on the journals, that’s it. It done. You need a new crankshaft (especially cross plane crankshafts as they are heavier then flat plane crankshafts). Just what you were doing to polish the journal did more harm then good. You even saw the excessive oil clearance with the correct color bearing thickness. Now you’re gunna play with the different thickness sizes till you find the correct one with the least oil clearance. And I get it. You want to get the bike running. But this is NOT the way to do this. It’s gunna break again. And what if it throws a rod through the case and some case debris gets into the swing arm and lockup the rear wheel while you’re on a highway at highway speed. You’re dead. Or the poor guy you sold the bike to who never knew anything about this makeshift backyard repair.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND IM NOT FAULTING THE OP FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO NOR AM I SAYING THAT THEY BUY SPUN BIKES AND DO MAKESHIFT REPAIRS TO FLIP THEM. I saw the video and I’m just speaking from my education and experience with this same engine. That you cannot just change out the affected bearing with one that fits with the best oil clearance numbers. It will break again and could cause the rear wheel to completely lock up at high speeds. And there are people out there that will buy a bike with bottom end engine damage ,rod knock, and lack or oil damage. They can pull the engine out. Do exactly what you saw here. Button it up real nicely and sell it to someone. And it usually won’t last more the 250-500 miles. You have to either tear the engine down correctly, measure everything and compare it to the spec and service limits in the shop manual. Pistons , rings, bearings , gaskets, springs, and a ton of other things. Even the external oil cooler needs to be replaced because that bearing material will find itself between the new bearing and crankshaft journals. I’ve seen a piece of old bearing material find a permanent home presses right into one of the journals that were still good. So you need to literally pull every part out of the engine case and clean , inspect, and measure, then make a decision to either re use it or replace it. That’s why we never rebuilt engines in the dealership. We would order a new one. But if it was warrantee work. Or recall work (I also worked at a bmw motorrad dealership and we had 2012 s1000rr engines blowing up at high speeds because at the factory in Germany someone forgot to apply thread locker to the connecting rod fasteners). So the point I’m trying to make is I pulled a lot of these in-line 4s apart and that spun bearing material is scattered anywhere engine oil can get to.
Anyone who buys a used bike. Please always remember my comment. Check the engine cases for signs of someone opening up the case like the wrong color bolt or excess gasket sealant buildup along the engine case mating points. If possible bring a certified motorcycle mechanic with you. Because this type of repair could cause the death of the rider.
I apologize to the op for saying something And I’m sure he probably didn’t know how dangerous it is to repair this problem without doing a complete engine re build with a new crankshaft.
Amazing explanation, thanks. Ive learned a lot just in seconds, as a mechanic and as motorcycle buyer.
Nice job sounds great nice bike cheap bike
I know I’m a year off but another suggestion while you ya e the engine out is to do a valve adjustment. Or, at least make sure all the valves are in spec. Thanks for the vid and I hope it’s still running great for ya!
Nice video because of your dad. However, as certified Honda mechanic, I honestly believe that bike will run for only a few thousand miles before the rod knock comes back and a total engine failure. What was done was excellent as far as a temporary fix. In my professional opinion I would have change the crank and all rods and bearings if keeping it fo myself. If selling to someone else. It is a must do. Be honest, be upfront.
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6:51 you might want to consider protecting the inside of the engine from all that abrasive dust you're creating...
I agree. I hope you sent it all away to get properly cleaned. that is the one thing you should never skimp on with home rebuilds. is a proper wash!
Do RC that was the point of using oil to sand down the journals. Creates no dust and we wiped it down everything few turns making sure there wasn’t any excess material. Regardless if there was any material left in the engine will be trapped in the oil filter.
The engine produces a lot of heat, so do not change the Tork specs next time. Those screw keep everything together, so at certain temp point there is no need for higher Tork.
Good job on the bike and i hope you adjusted the rear wheel so the chain will stop making noises
You and your dad did a fantastic job, highly commendable, GREAT JOB TO YOU BOTH!
zen pro thanks!!! Just got a Ducati 696 and videos will be up soon subscribe so you don’t miss it!
@@thachileandude ok cool, yes I'll subscribe. Picked up a 2001 R1 and lucked out as its a Champion series... gonna use it for drag racing this season, then tear it down end of year to rebuild :)
zen pro awesome! Na build or turbo?
Hey amigos me gusto su video hagan vídeos en español explicando lo mismo que acaban de hacer con otra moto saludos me gusto su video
great video))
I will also polish my crank shaft like you))) are the same as you have small scratches on the necks (
Good trick with the string and sandpaper. But I'd have removed the crank and had it machined if I was going to keep it.
Man, I need to make friends who are mechanics........ that way I can use them in time of need.
Sentí un acento chileno por ahí ajajjajja saludos desde chile jejeje
Wow I’m rebuilding my motor too and I’m not a mechanic But I want to learn so I hope I can put back everything together if I can’t. At least I tryed 😉
How did it turn out?
xKtF the bike blew up bc a 10mm ended up in the bottom end
buy a cheap engine for $50 tear it down and put it back together
Siempre hay un estúpido haciendo comentarios indebido pero honestamente Me gusta lo que estás haciendo este joven con su padre
Gonna be going from a 2006 5vy to a 2009 big bang this week, hopefully it’s a wise move as the sound from the Big Bang is awesome.
You wont be disappointed. Ive had both.
Do you regret your decision ? I got a 05 and a 09 and honestly I ride the 05 way more .
Nice cheap bike ,building with ya dad is priceless ,I don't have mine, an envy you both ,but love the joint build an can appreciate your satisfaction on the finished bike ,and with the vast know how your old fella has.this will be a winner
Awesome video but slap your dad for me lol. Fresh bearings, haven’t had time to really oil the engine and immediately starts giving it revs. Gotta give the engine break in run time. A good 30 idling minutes, complete cool down. Then you can rev it!
But you can measure the big-end of the crankshaft? Before you install new bearings.
Update with the bike?
Nice job! I have a question I have a 2004 r1 and I want to put a slipper clutch on it. "I can't even find a GPR mount for less then 180" Anyways I heard that Goldwing clutch with match not sure think whole basket. Does anyone have any info on this or the GPR mount kit? I called GPR and they wanted 180 for a mount if that's the case I am buying a new stabilizer also. F that I will get a scotts. How about the Goldwing clutches? Nice work man
Hello guys,
Which color bearing was set before ? And which bearing color you set after rework? Thanks
Would this be the same manner as rebuilding a 2006 R6?
Hi. Nice rebuild! I am planning similar to yours.. where did you get the manual? Thanks
That journal was toast. If you can “feel” anything it’s shit. It should look like a mirror when it’s right.
Pedr Hiltbrand that’s why we polished it to get it as smooth as possible. Bike runs fine
yep have to agree with chris find a good crank with con rods if u can do it right the bike will last a bit longer , how ever the cross plane been snapping the # 4 crank pin from 09 to 2015 or 16 as i remember there a shim kit fix but yea be carefull - cheers
I would put money what you heard as "rod knock" was actually just a bad cam chain tensioner in the first place...a common problem...hilarious...in fact I could hear the cam chain slap because the tensioner is worn out on the first start of the engine.
You would looses money
Recover crankshaft with nitriding and good ?
well if you didnt need new crank you need one now after running it more and make sure you replace rod studs and measure bolt stretch c0o0rrectly mic all journals check wear spec check clearences with plastic guage
bearings are easy mate. aftermaarket would have had any clearances you needed. lesson learned I guess :)
did you get it properly cleaned after all that sanding?
Also when doing a start for the 1st time. take the plugs out and just let it turn over that gets oil pressure up without starting
is the engine still doing alright?
that all those who criticize this video go to hell This young man is doing something very nice Sharing with his father because today your father and mother are with you but you do not know tomorrow what can happen
How is this still holding up? How many miles have you put on since the rebuild?
excelente video!!! buen trabajo men. tengo una consulta. ustedes son chilenos?? pregunto por el acento latino que tienen. si es así o no saludos desde chile y espero mas videos
this video get part 2 ?
I’m curious to know what grid sand paper did you guys use? And if you got from tougher to smother like 600 grid please let me know. I’m rebuilding my engine and Walter watching your video I bought a salvageable crank from eBay. My original crank is toast after broken rod and case I got a new case too
Yeifri Rivera we used 2000 and 3500 grit
is it still running?
Have a problem with my 2012 R1, I have to do the same thing, any special tools?
Zanthony robin no, not really. It’s pretty easy if you know how everything works. Parts was about $280 for all the gaskets. If you want to be safe you might want to buy the crankshaft form ebay and then plastic guage the bearing clearance to find the best bearings for it you would be about $600 in for parts with Everything.
A year later is it still running . and how many miles since the fix ?
WICKED GIXXER L7 508 maybe like 20 it’s been sitting since we have some title issues and can’t register it yet..
Why silicone not a gasket?
That's a bargain! Good job mate!
I'd like to ask how did permatex ultra black held up on the engine cases?
Any leaks or so ? Thnx in advance :)
no leaks bro! that's what they use at the factory just different color lol
Definitely should have replaced the crank. Band-aid fix that will resurface later on, whether it's for you or the person you sell it to.
Sk2PPer for us it was a nice project to see how much the tolerances are. We will be taking it back a part to try other tricks
Still running?
I know it's been a while since you worked with it, but I didn't found comment on that light at 29:10. It's air intake temperature cable not connected.
Nobody listens to techno it was all connected properly. That’s why we he pointed it out in the video. Once it was fully assembled with the intake runners the light went way for some reason.
Hola amigo me podrías pasar el manual o lo que tengas de información de la r1 porfa lo necesitó .gracias . muy bueno el vídeo
richar 270 está todo en internet. Busca r1 shop manual en google.
That crank and rod needs to be replaced. When you spin a rod bearing it egg shaped the rod and crank. Cheap fixes don’t work for long.
This issue with loose bearings Come from reving up on cold engine ? Or oil change (past the interval) maintance ?
yrc the bearing on one of the rods spun. The previous owner was doing a burnout when the engine started knocking
does it still run good now i remember watching this video when it came out wondering how long it would last
we have it in storage since we moved :(
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That motor won't last long, that was a mickey mouse repair you did, better go ahead and sell it asap.
munter10 yeah we didn’t have the cash to get a new engine. Instead we fixed this one the best we could with the tools that were available.
munter10 don’t get your panties twisted
Bill Reynolds wtf how isn’t it safe? Just rebuilt the engine with his dad.
@@alex-sanddevil5093 thats not a rebuild, thats a bodge.
Johnny Ralf like u can do any better
Weren’t the crankshaft bolts where supposed to be torqued down first at 22 ftlb plus 13 ftlbs on the second stage and lastly 60 degree turn on the final stage? I say this because most engines are assembled this way but you had the manual so you probably had more details on the initial 22 ftlb torque and then loosing it to 13 ftlbs. I enjoyed your build though! 👍
Why you dont get a good used crankshaft and thats it put all the bearing new with the same diameter.
edecio castillo if so I would’ve had to buy all new bearings for all connecting rods. There’s an equation to get the right size bearings for the crank. Would’ve doubled the price for the parts. Mine wasn’t that bad so decided to re Polish it
@@thachileandude good work brother
Goldsmith Garage how is it running these days?
CBXR750 probably threw a rod first week. That crank was fucked.
Is the bike still running?
Chris BigSoldier yes we just changed the break in oil it’s been running great!
How much will this job cost?
I also tried to put a bondpaper between the cap and the capbearing. Its good but not quality.,hehehe
R1 naked sports tuning
Muy bien!
In the end have you found the right tollerance ? Yamaha doesn’t supply any bearing other than original used in factory, but you can find aftermarket parts
Luca Parenti we put the biggest ones yamaha makes. The clearance was slightly bigger but we havent ran into any issues.
Just run 60 weight oil like Top Fuel dragster use, and change it about as often too. Oh BTW. I worked with a guy who ran a hot rodded VW dune buggy on coastal sand dunes in Oregon. It was a hot enough engine that it wouldn't have great engine life. More like a pretty radical VW race engine. He used to rebuild it and then after 3 to 4 weekends on the sand he would tear it down and put thin shim stock on the back side of the main bearings. Don't remember if he did the rod bearings too. I think it was just the mains because of the tendency of air cooled VW's that are built to 4 or 5 times original horse power figures to want to pull their case halves apart. Worked pretty well for him and got him a few more weekends of fun and less machine work.
Where were you able to get that manual from?
cody kelley it’s on google if you look hard enough. Searched “r1 shop manual pdf”
I have a r6 2007 has a knock after oil change didn't ride it will this help
rashad khan Make sure there’s enough oil since the oil change. Could be knocking/ ticking because of low oil
@@thachileandude this is what happened we drain the oil out the night next afternoon we fill oil did the plugs and change oil filter.. Started it up it was 30 seconds switch her off and the second start the rev with high we switch her off and then back on again thata when the knocking started similar sound to the video
We filled up about 2.5 liters
@@rashadkhan2927 If it is possible to do so due to oil filter positioning I always pour fresh oil in the filter and then install the filter on the engine.
can your do my bike next
any body knows a good mechanic in nj
i didnt see you tightens the clamps for throttle bodies?
MegaMm76 i did tighten them, regardless starter went out so they were taken off either way
Does the 09 R1 crossplane vibrate like the 2014 R1?
MegaMm76 I wouldn’t be able to tell you. Never rode a 14 r1
I wish I was knowledgeable about working on r1 engine. Where are you located, what state?..
houston TX
I hate seeing you sand that beautiful lucky crank with sanding papper.. why dont spent some time take that crankshaft to the shop make it more officially done with suitable method of repairing it... It will save u a lot.. i think you gonna rebuild the engine again soon..
I’m wanting to buy a 08 r1 with a blown motor for 1500 I found a 07 motor for 500 I have some knowledge on mechanics and tools but it would be my first engine swap does anyone know if it would be super hard ?
Bernardo Barajas if the engines are the same you shouldn’t have a problem just dropping the other on in. It’s pretty simple and straight forward. Make sure you get the special socket for that one nut on the chassis
Goldsmith Garage alright man thanks Imma give it a try I’ll let you know how it goes
Where do you order your parts from
Screammy89 from Yamaha directly
Damn this is some backwoods shit right here. You should’ve just paid a little extra and took it to the machine shop. This is where it will fail again.
that r1 is abused af
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После токого ремонта долго мотор ходить не будет,,, полюбому
Im so confused lol. In the engine diagram it appears to be flat plane crank but in the teardown it clearly looked to be cross plane.. I've always understood the Yamaha R1 engine to be cross plane (uncommon for 4 cylinder configuration)
It certainly sounds Crossplane. Crossplane engines always burble
Eric Christian the first year yamaha came out with the crossplane crank was 2009 only for yzfr1. Prior to that year the yzfr1 had a flat plane crank.
1.17 WHO HAD TO REWIND IT TOO????
Bought my 2010 r1 for $800 and put less than 1k parts into it lol i cal having the cheapest r1😂
COJO MOTO thats amazing!!!
Title status?
Lol I got a 06 R1 in perfect condition with a clean title. Guy thought it was totaled needed a rectifier. $1000 for the bike, $70 for rectifier
I bought a 2007 GSXR for 2500. Bike needed fairings and had the CEL from the set servo. Has 11,000 miles on it
@@dylanpowell2307 I bought an 07 GSXR with 15k, needed nothing
Hopefully no one buys that bike from ya. Bad buy
Sangano
How hard can it be to take the crankshaft to a shop for proper polishing and measurement. That's a really bad job. Trying to fix it for cheap and then sell it. At least make it properly.
How is it holding up ? Maybe you guys are interested in this video, regarding that knock sound: th-cam.com/video/Vza4wwqcIOA/w-d-xo.html
BODGERS BEWARE.
Mechanics at their worst - that's not a fix, it's vandalism ! You should be ashamed.
Anyway i can get in touch?
dm me on instagram @ THACHILEANDUDE
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Poor bike ... it's a shame. Don't know why people don't look after there stuff. :(
Xbox needs help yes it’s a shame. Thankfully we got it back on the road!
@@thachileandude nice one buddy poor r1 will finally enjoy it's life as a motorcycle :)