I think The Riddler us the most under appreciated and barely used villans. The Riddler's biggest superpower was his outstanding intelect. While most people would use such a gift for things like chess or scientific discovery, The Riddler comes off as what today would be this "Black Hat Hacker" persona. Interested in puzzles, and making puzzles evil. Maybe makig a Fifteen puzzle or a Rubik's Cube into some incindiary device or booby trap. Where most people today are hardwired on Pop Culture and Sports, The Riddler is this Academic Supervillan. The kind of guy who'd go on Jeopardy, school Alex Trebeck and steal from Ken Jennings. If anything, he's now this evil super-nerd.
That's why I love character, he was the first of Batman's Rouge's gallery to battle him with intellect, rather brute force. He was a guy who was so fixated on outsmarting everyone he met and so arrogant to believe he would never be outclassed by such "primitive minds," as he would put it...... until the day he met up with Batman and has been hell bent on not only killing him, but outsmarting him. He once had a chance to give up all that and use his brains to actually make a life without resorting to criminal activity, but just couldn't do cause he wanted to finally out smart the big, black bat.
I agree with the notion that the Riddler is underappreciated. He's my favorite Batman villain and BTAS does the best interpretation of him, as well as most other villains and heroes. I think it's the paradime of what Batman should be.
The thing I liked about the Riddler in The Animated Series is that he was actually smarter than Batman. 90% of the time Batman couldn't solve the puzzles the Riddler lay out, but beat him by cheating or changing the rules of the game. It really gave a sense that there was a credible threat and a worthy adversary despite all the gimmicks.
I always felt the Riddler could've been one of the coolest villains ever; a guy who commits his crimes to be solved and is constantly one step ahead of anyone after him because of it. But I've yet to see him exploited as such in the series' or games.
Revkor Opinions, I respect yours but I feel the scarecrow one was a major improvement. Though I agree with the other ones being terrible, especially the joker and ridller ones. On the whole, the last season was worse, save for one or 2 episodes. And of course, the creeper was hilarious :')
Skirge you got to love the creeper. And even they admited the Joker was a mistake which is why they went back a bit in Batmon Beyond return of the Joker. Catwoman's changed just didn't work at all.
+Skirge I think most people can all agree that the scarecrow redesign was the best out off the redesigns, but my god.....I hate what they did with the Riddler and the Joker
You could tell the writers were not keen on Riddler or Bane as both characters were so under used. Riddlers reform was the only decent Riddler episode in the series.
What was it about the riddler that they didn't like? Was it that he had complex riddles that they couldn't Incorporated into the show? I find that hard to believe cause that 2004 cartoon show The Batman's Riddler managed to pull it off and had more episodes then the TAS version. Same with Bane for that 2004's cartoon cause i find Bruce Timm's lame excuse for TAS Bane "he's too gimicky" very weak.
+rodster6 And i call bullshit on that seeing as how 2004's The batman did well with it's own version of the Riddler. I don't care if that version looked like Marilyn manson. I base my POV not on his appearance, but on how good with riddles he actually used. His every sentence was some kind of riddle, and his "knowledge is power" philosophy fit very well Because that's what the Riddler is supposed to be: a villain that makes you think. Something Bruce Timm and the gang FAILED to do with their TAS Riddler.
Nice! The Riddler has got to be one of the hardest Batman villians to write for. Because he more so then the rest, challenges Batmans actual Detective skills more so then his physical prowess. and I am a die hard Batman fan but even I show an incredible amount of respect to Frank Gorshin!
I didn't like the change from the first "Batman TAS", they say thay wanted him to look smarter, but really, I'd take more seriously the first image of the Riddler (the one with the suit and tie) rather than the new one that looks like a leotard. By the way, if there is one actor that maybe can bring to life this great villan I think it would be Jude Law, just give me a like if you agree with this last thought.
+ce acatl velasco Yeah I hated that they redesigned the Riddlers outfit to look like the silly version again. That and Jokers face were the two bad redesigns for season 4.
+rodster6 I agree, Joker's face is more simple than the first one, I think it looks less expressive, like that episode "Joker's favor" when he yells "I don't know!!!!". I also agree that season 4 has good writing, is just that, you know what they say "if it ain't broken..."
Would have intrigued if Riddler did an episode of Superman: The Animated Series where Riddler would try challenging Superman as the ultimate brawn with him the ultimate brain. The concept of Riddler being a 'Saw' oriented deathtrap criminal would work, even more interesting if he was tied to Task Force X.
This is the Riddler I know and I like and is suppose to be portrayed, not the one from the 1966 TV series and the 1995 film, they treated him like a joke in those.
***** Also, in the Adam West series, the first guy to play Riddler (Frank Gorshin) did his best to make the character more serious AND that bowler cap and suit look we all love? Frank Gorshin designed it. If it weren't for him, Riddler would still always wear that darn jumpsuit all the time.
It was said that they didn't use The Riddler much because of the complexity of riddles that they had to come up with for him as well as the episode. And when it came to the redesign of the character, it looked like Frank Gorshin's Riddler to say the least.
"what is reality". awesome episode but i think my favorite riddler episode, and maybe favorite of all the episodes was "if you're so smart, why aren't you rich" where the riddler puts them into a maze based on riddle of the minotaur.
Honestly, the three Riddler episodes we got were amazing. I was fine with just those three. HOWEVER, I just wish they didn't redesign him like that, that's all.
I agree with your points. I Prefer his first TAS incarnation. Yes, Jim Carey did a brilliantly fun and mad Riddler, but it wasn't OUR Riddler. It was just a smarter Joker in the movie and the old TV series. But this one was dignified, smart, arrogant, and presented such a showmanship and bravado as to make viewers love his antics. It was all a fun game to the character, and life and death matter for others, while still being sinister, but not obvious, but subtle instead.
you are half-correct. yes they leave clues,but the riddler leaves riddles,tho zodiac killer leaves encrypted messages im still suprised they havent found him yet
@evans0305 I think the problem I have with the traps in TAS is that they seem a little too elaborate. If you watch the first episode he appears in "If you're so smart, why arn't you rich?" You'll see what I'm talking about. For example. In Arkham City, there's a trap where there's a row of spinning saw blades, the floor is electrocuted and a hostage is hanging above by a rope. It was as elaborate as I can believe RIddler can make it, but nothing too rediculous.
The comics based on the show feature this version of the Riddler a lot (and the stories were actually quite good) and they actually managed to make the leotard outfit work. They eventually had him grow his hair back, put on a green suit and black pants though, which was a much better design.
This version and the Arkham games Riddler (which are pretty identical so I consider them the same) is my favourite because he makes Batman play a mental game which is different fighting than Batman's other villains like Mr Freeze and Two Face
I agree, Riddler prides himself on his wits, since he has no physical strength and no violent persona. He looked more intelligent and sophisticated in a suit than a spandex outfit.
The thing that makes the riddler a quite complex villain for Batman to defeat is he’s the worlds greatest detective butting heads against one of the smartest foes of Batman and batman doesn’t have a lot of villains as smart as Edward Nigma
I was wrong, The Penguin will not be in this film, the Joker will make a cameo, entering Harley Quinn, The main Villain in "The Caped Crusader" will be The Riddler, hopefully portrayed by Johnny Depp. Philip Seymour Hoffman has been rumoured for further movies though. So that leaves a few villains, Mr. Freeze, who has not been rumoured at all or an actor for him, The Riddler, who is most likely going to be the main villain in the film, as all the rest are small and really dont matter Like KC.
he looked better with the suit then the spandex one piece suit, plus they have a new figure of him out and hes wearing the fancy suit which looks so much better.
@Bacbi One of my favorite TAS episodes was If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich? in which he gets revenge on his former employer by trapping him at the center of a giant robotic labyrinth which he had originally designed as a video game. I never saw any of them as threats persay, more as dangerous psychopaths who just happen to also be geniuses. With the Riddler it was his hubris, he was so full of himself that he couldn't help but tell you how he was going to do it in a condescending way.
Yeah for Batman villains i prefer a good backstory and psychology as to why they are. Joker Freeze Two Face Poison Ivy I will say one thing about The Batman series it did good in introducing Black Mask also their version of Firefly was good
Rumoured: Movie Name: The Caped Crusader Year: 2011 Batman/Bruce Wayne - Christian Bale The Riddler - Johnny Depp Penguin - Philip Seymour Hoffman Let the Riddler return.
@TheRealAkaRai I see your point, and to some degree I agree that they went to far with the character in The Batman. But the first episode with him I absolutly loved since he seemed like such a mysterious character eventhough u already knew everything about him.
All the redesigns did was secure the fact that even though many of the voice actors were the same, this was a completely different universe- one that doesn't hold a candle to the animated series. Where they went wrong?? Who knows, but they did.
@Ken9284 Yes, Astin portrayed the Riddler in the episodes "Batman's Anniversary" and "A Riddling Controversy". John Astin was a total miscast as the prince of puzzlers as he was too stiff.
They are similar in the idea that they're agents of chaos. But not in the fact what the creators are saying in that the Riddler was a clone of the Joker.
I always thought that the Riddler should be like Kevin Spacey in Seven. Psychotic serial killer with a twisted sense of logic, who takes joy in toying with his quarry.
@eris4angel 0:09 "Hey diddle diddle. Time for a riddle." It's from a Mother Goose nursery rhyme: "Hey diddle diddle, The Cat and the fiddle, The Cow jumped over the moon, The little Dog laughed to see such sport, And the Dish ran away with the Spoon."
I think this Riddler WAS crazy, he was just extremely low-key about it... it takes insanity to think that erasing your personal history will accomplish anything, while declaring your previous life to be dead. "There is no Edward Nygma, there is only the Riddler," or something like that.
I always thought there was a lot more potential for the Riddler as a villain than what they had him doing. He's essentially a narcissistic serial criminal, which means he should utterly lack empathy and be capable of all kinds of atrocities, limited only by his immense imagination, but they could never make him anything other than just kind of goofy.
he's got OCD, he can't NOT leave a riddle. AKA HE'S MENTALLY INSANE, even though he's the most aware of batman's enemies. he knows what he's doing, but he can't stop.
While I could not have seen Depp or Murphy playing him, I can picture Riddler in a Nolan movie. He would be more like Jigsaw from the SAW movies-he would kidnap prominent intellectuals and put them in death traps where they have to figure out how to survive, thus pitting his mind against theirs. And he would deliver his most sadistic lines in a very bored, detached kind of way, because to him the victims are not people, they are just numbers in an equation.
I could see Riddler in a Nolan film, but he'd be different from his traditional characterization. I picture a version more like Jigsaw from SAW, who kidnaps prominent and powerful people and puts them in death traps so they have to figure out how to survive, thereby pitting their minds against his. He would not take delight in his crimes, he'd be bored by them-because to him they are numbers in an equation, not people. But he'd get excited matching wits with Batman, someone as smart as him.
lets clear things up a bit shall we? Scarecrow (formerly doctor Crane) used to be a psychologist who was obsessed with fear and its effects on people. this led him to experiment with a substance known as "fear toxin". The Riddler AKA Edward Nigma has severe OCD, going so far as to say that he is physically unable not to leave a riddle that would thwart his crime. he has a genius level IQ and is obsessed with proving himself to be batman's superior.
do you know if they ever did one of these on the mad hatter (jervis tetch)? it would be interesting to know why they suddenly made him so much shorter like in the comics
Not for the Golden/Silver age Gorshin-esque Riddler. For that he was perfect, and that's the version they went with. I thought Two-Face was bad, but I think Carrey's Riddler is very underrated because of how modern audiences percieve the character post ANIMATED SERIES.
has anyone considered crispen glover as the riddler. he was rumored for the joker for dark knight before heath ledger was announced but i think he's do an intense riddler like when he was in Willard. He'd have the quiet intensity as opposed to heath ledger's manic joker.
@FerneJohn Really? I didn't realize that Warner Bros also asked that him to put rubber nipples and oversized cod pieces on the costumes. I also didn't realize that they asked him to cast George Clooney a Batman.
Bruce:He Was Brilliant He Was The Riddler But The Thing Is His Riddler Was Very Similar To The Joker’s Personality And Knowing That We Were Gonna Do That Really Manic Joker We Know We Had To Do Something Different With The Riddler We Didn’t Want Just Him Being Just A Joker Clone
It has definitely been confirmed that there will be at least one more movie but no one knows who is going to be the villians just yet. As a matter of fact, there have been rumors that Catwoman might be in the third movie as well as the Riddler rumors. So for now, it's all up in the air until Nolan decides to release info on the third movie. Though I must say he has his work cut out for him because it's going to be tough as hell trying to top the Dark Knight.
@Rantincorporated Ironically, the face of AC Riddler looks more like Jon Glover, who voices this Riddler and kinda sounds a lot like the one from AA and AC. Also, if you mean that Riddler's traps in AC were like Jigsaw, then that's not that different from TAS Riddler, since Riddler in the comics and in TAS had traps just as elaborate.
If they bring out the Riddler in the new movie series they should look into an internet based villain. The old style of riddles wont work in the age of Google and Wikipedia, since one net search can solve just about anything. Having the character take advantage of the massive amount of information available online could create some truly devious puzzles and a dynamic supervilian for a new age.
The Riddler's redesign was the only one I ever really had a problem with. I just liked the suit that he wore in the animated series better. He didnt really appear very much in the new series. To my knowledge - he only appeared in "Over the Edge", ""Judgement Day", and a Superman episode called "Knight Time".
Batman has only had one origin. His motives and purpose are clear. He has a real name, you can take off the mask and he still exists. This has never been true of the Joker. He doesn't have a good backstory, he doesn't have a good psychology or motivation. He is just the random manic enemy that the writers toss in to fill whatever role they happen to need at the moment. And he stands unique amongst long-used characters for that, for no other character has so many blanks in their profile.
I loved Gorshin as the Riddler! He had such a infectious laugh, but he was quite a scary villain in some aspects he just had this sort of evil indertone that Carrey didn't. I mean I did like the movie, but he seemed like a child throwing a temper-tantrum. Still I see what you mean, both were very flamboyant and just forced you to smile (not like the though, Joker you know?).
Easily the worst of the redesigns. WTF happened? Did they seriously look at the 60s version and think that was a better design than what they had?
I thought they tried to make him look more like the Jim Carrey version since it came out around the same time
I loved all of the TNBA redesigns EXCEPT the Riddler. Shame really that such a powerful character didn't get exploited enough.
Watch the 2004's Riddler in that The Batman cartoon. He get's more episodes then TAS Riddler.
Shadowhawk28 and voice by Freddy Kruger aka Mr Robert suchhh a great voice cast
What about the Joker?
I love how they barely show the redesign like they knew they fucked up there
Actually it's because he barely appeared in TNBA.
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Heather_Veley For the best. Never liked unitard Riddler, never ever will. Give me tuxedo Riddler any day.
I agree with you. Though I think the unitard was from the '60s Batman version, which is maybe why they brought it back..??
I don’t know what they were thinking. The Riddler is wearing pjs, he looks so bad.
I think The Riddler us the most under appreciated and barely used villans.
The Riddler's biggest superpower was his outstanding intelect. While most people would use such a gift for things like chess or scientific discovery, The Riddler comes off as what today would be this "Black Hat Hacker" persona. Interested in puzzles, and making puzzles evil. Maybe makig a Fifteen puzzle or a Rubik's Cube into some incindiary device or booby trap.
Where most people today are hardwired on Pop Culture and Sports, The Riddler is this Academic Supervillan. The kind of guy who'd go on Jeopardy, school Alex Trebeck and steal from Ken Jennings. If anything, he's now this evil super-nerd.
thiS made me happy, riddler is my favorite supervillain of all time
That's why I love character, he was the first of Batman's Rouge's gallery to battle him with intellect, rather brute force. He was a guy who was so fixated on outsmarting everyone he met and so arrogant to believe he would never be outclassed by such "primitive minds," as he would put it...... until the day he met up with Batman and has been hell bent on not only killing him, but outsmarting him. He once had a chance to give up all that and use his brains to actually make a life without resorting to criminal activity, but just couldn't do cause he wanted to finally out smart the big, black bat.
Well that's probably why he isn't used a lot. Kinda hard to write for a super genius character when most people aren't super genius' themselves.
i feel disappointed when riddler don't get his own episode in the new season
Me too
I agree with the notion that the Riddler is underappreciated. He's my favorite Batman villain and BTAS does the best interpretation of him, as well as most other villains and heroes. I think it's the paradime of what Batman should be.
What the hell did they do to him? At least the previous versions had class!
This one looks like an 80's aerobic's class reject! EW!
"Boy o boy, the Riddler, what did we do with the Riddler...." He looks a little regretful XD
The Riddler has always been my favorite villian. So smart and smooth. You gotta love him.
The thing I liked about the Riddler in The Animated Series is that he was actually smarter than Batman. 90% of the time Batman couldn't solve the puzzles the Riddler lay out, but beat him by cheating or changing the rules of the game. It really gave a sense that there was a credible threat and a worthy adversary despite all the gimmicks.
He has potential, but he's really easy to mess up, and really easy to get bored of.
Snorlaxation they messed him and was afraid of him taking attention from the joker or atleast almost the same spotlight their words
I always felt the Riddler could've been one of the coolest villains ever; a guy who commits his crimes to be solved and is constantly one step ahead of anyone after him because of it. But I've yet to see him exploited as such in the series' or games.
Watch the 2004's Riddler in that The Batman cartoon. He gets more episodes then TAS Riddler.
@@ETH5626 true he gets more episodes, but that designs so ugly
Sorry guys. like the Joker this redesign shouldn't have happened. Heck all the redesigns shouldn't have happened the show was much better just as TAS.
+Revkor Ah, but you have to admit the scarecrow redesign was amazing :)
Skirge
no i liked the old one better. all the old designs were better.
Revkor Opinions, I respect yours but I feel the scarecrow one was a major improvement. Though I agree with the other ones being terrible, especially the joker and ridller ones. On the whole, the last season was worse, save for one or 2 episodes. And of course, the creeper was hilarious :')
Skirge
you got to love the creeper. And even they admited the Joker was a mistake which is why they went back a bit in Batmon Beyond return of the Joker.
Catwoman's changed just didn't work at all.
+Skirge I think most people can all agree that the scarecrow redesign was the best out off the redesigns, but my god.....I hate what they did with the Riddler and the Joker
You could tell the writers were not keen on Riddler or Bane as both characters were so under used. Riddlers reform was the only decent Riddler episode in the series.
Hear that. Sucks too man cause Riddler was my favorite. Only villain that Batman had to beat on a pure intellectual level.
What was it about the riddler that they didn't like? Was it that he had complex riddles that they couldn't Incorporated into the show? I find that hard to believe cause that 2004 cartoon show The Batman's Riddler managed to pull it off and had more episodes then the TAS version. Same with Bane for that 2004's cartoon cause i find Bruce Timm's lame excuse for TAS Bane "he's too gimicky" very weak.
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They basically found him too difficult to write.
+rodster6 And i call bullshit on that seeing as how 2004's The batman did well with it's own version of the Riddler. I don't care if that version looked like Marilyn manson. I base my POV not on his appearance, but on how good with riddles he actually used. His every sentence was some kind of riddle, and his "knowledge is power" philosophy fit very well Because that's what the Riddler is supposed to be: a villain that makes you think. Something Bruce Timm and the gang FAILED to do with their TAS Riddler.
Shadowhawk28
That's what I read somewhere anyway.It was a different creative team behind The Batman wasn't it?
Nice! The Riddler has got to be one of the hardest Batman villians to write for. Because he more so then the rest, challenges Batmans actual Detective skills more so then his physical prowess. and I am a die hard Batman fan but even I show an incredible amount of respect to Frank Gorshin!
I love the Riddler. He's one of my top three favorite Gotham Villians!
"Hey diddle diddle, time for a riddle!"
Does anyone know wich is the song played in the background when they introduce the character? 0:00 - 0:09
So... they put him a unitard with ballet shoes and they think that made him better?!
I didn't like the change from the first "Batman TAS", they say thay wanted him to look smarter, but really, I'd take more seriously the first image of the Riddler (the one with the suit and tie) rather than the new one that looks like a leotard.
By the way, if there is one actor that maybe can bring to life this great villan I think it would be Jude Law, just give me a like if you agree with this last thought.
+ce acatl velasco I like season 4.
+ce acatl velasco Yeah I hated that they redesigned the Riddlers outfit to look like the silly version again. That and Jokers face were the two bad redesigns for season 4.
rodster6
The season still has good writing.
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Yeah I like season 4 in general. Just not the Riddler and Joker redesigns.
+rodster6 I agree, Joker's face is more simple than the first one, I think it looks less expressive, like that episode "Joker's favor" when he yells "I don't know!!!!". I also agree that season 4 has good writing, is just that, you know what they say "if it ain't broken..."
that hey diddle diddle time for a riddle argh part made me laugh so hard that was hilarious
Would have intrigued if Riddler did an episode of Superman: The Animated Series where Riddler would try challenging Superman as the ultimate brawn with him the ultimate brain. The concept of Riddler being a 'Saw' oriented deathtrap criminal would work, even more interesting if he was tied to Task Force X.
This is the Riddler I know and I like and is suppose to be portrayed, not the one from the 1966 TV series and the 1995 film, they treated him like a joke in those.
Everyone was treated humorously in the 60's!!! It was the best they could do to make it considered safe for kids.
Well, it's true since it was from a different time period way before Batman went back to it's darker roots.
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Also, in the Adam West series, the first guy to play Riddler (Frank Gorshin) did his best to make the character more serious AND that bowler cap and suit look we all love? Frank Gorshin designed it. If it weren't for him, Riddler would still always wear that darn jumpsuit all the time.
Well, that's true, I'll give you that.
Really liked the Riddler in this show but the all time best Riddler for me is the one in the Arkham games. They nailed him perfectly in those games.
I knew I wasn't the only one who thought Joker and Riddler were similar!
gotta love it when you get to heard the creators talk about the villains, i love their commentary
It was said that they didn't use The Riddler much because of the complexity of riddles that they had to come up with for him as well as the episode. And when it came to the redesign of the character, it looked like Frank Gorshin's Riddler to say the least.
I like that they talk about making the Riddler somebody who could get in a fight with Batman, when that doesn't happen in any of his episodes.
wow lex luthors dad was the riddler
Makes sense. Both Lex Luthor and Riddler are two of the smartest characters in DC with genius-level intellects.
Lol
Arkham Files: Mad Hatter, Catwoman, Sewer King, Penguin, Ghoul, Bane, Rupert Thorne, Roland Daggett, Professor Hugo Strange, Killer Croc, Clock King
"what is reality". awesome episode but i think my favorite riddler episode, and maybe favorite of all the episodes was "if you're so smart, why aren't you rich" where the riddler puts them into a maze based on riddle of the minotaur.
Dont For get about The 1995 Riddler Played By Jim Carrey in Batman Forever
Honestly, the three Riddler episodes we got were amazing. I was fine with just those three. HOWEVER, I just wish they didn't redesign him like that, that's all.
Does anyone know the theme song at the beginning of the Arkham Files vidéos?
I agree with your points. I Prefer his first TAS incarnation. Yes, Jim Carey did a brilliantly fun and mad Riddler, but it wasn't OUR Riddler. It was just a smarter Joker in the movie and the old TV series. But this one was dignified, smart, arrogant, and presented such a showmanship and bravado as to make viewers love his antics. It was all a fun game to the character, and life and death matter for others, while still being sinister, but not obvious, but subtle instead.
"Riddle me this, riddle me that.
What can make you sad,
but also make you laugh?"
You gotta thank they didn't do anything with Riddler in the New Adventures beyond secundary roles. His original design is the absolute best.
you are half-correct. yes they leave clues,but the riddler leaves riddles,tho zodiac killer leaves encrypted messages
im still suprised they havent found him yet
@evans0305 I think the problem I have with the traps in TAS is that they seem a little too elaborate. If you watch the first episode he appears in "If you're so smart, why arn't you rich?" You'll see what I'm talking about. For example. In Arkham City, there's a trap where there's a row of spinning saw blades, the floor is electrocuted and a hostage is hanging above by a rope. It was as elaborate as I can believe RIddler can make it, but nothing too rediculous.
The comics based on the show feature this version of the Riddler a lot (and the stories were actually quite good) and they actually managed to make the leotard outfit work. They eventually had him grow his hair back, put on a green suit and black pants though, which was a much better design.
This version and the Arkham games Riddler (which are pretty identical so I consider them the same) is my favourite because he makes Batman play a mental game which is different fighting than Batman's other villains like Mr Freeze and Two Face
I agree, Riddler prides himself on his wits, since he has no physical strength and no violent persona. He looked more intelligent and sophisticated in a suit than a spandex outfit.
The redesign look does make sense cause Riddler burned his business suit outfit in Riddler's Reform which was his last episode before the revamp
This was short, but really cool! Riddler is my all-time favorite DC villain!
They were forced to redesign him by the studio as the studio wanted him to look more like the 'Batman Forever' version of the Riddler.
The thing that makes the riddler a quite complex villain for Batman to defeat is he’s the worlds greatest detective butting heads against one of the smartest foes of Batman and batman doesn’t have a lot of villains as smart as Edward Nigma
I was wrong, The Penguin will not be in this film, the Joker will make a cameo, entering Harley Quinn, The main Villain in "The Caped Crusader" will be The Riddler, hopefully portrayed by Johnny Depp. Philip Seymour Hoffman has been rumoured for further movies though. So that leaves a few villains, Mr. Freeze, who has not been rumoured at all or an actor for him, The Riddler, who is most likely going to be the main villain in the film, as all the rest are small and really dont matter Like KC.
The Riddler will always be my favorite villain. ^^
I like the intelligent Riddler more then the crazed one in the older one's. And yes, the suit is the best for him.
The Riddler is one of my favorite DC Comics villains.
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he looked better with the suit then the spandex one piece suit, plus they have a new figure of him out and hes wearing the fancy suit which looks so much better.
@Bacbi One of my favorite TAS episodes was If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich? in which he gets revenge on his former employer by trapping him at the center of a giant robotic labyrinth which he had originally designed as a video game.
I never saw any of them as threats persay, more as dangerous psychopaths who just happen to also be geniuses. With the Riddler it was his hubris, he was so full of himself that he couldn't help but tell you how he was going to do it in a condescending way.
1:53
What was that episode?
I don't know
The episode is called "over the edge"
No that's not it
Yes it is I watched it the other day and it had that clip
Then what's was episode 1:53?
My favorite version of the riddler was the insane, superiority-complex one from arkham city. there you are.
He is. From what I hear, he's already been casted.
Yeah for Batman villains i prefer a good backstory and psychology as to why they are.
Joker
Freeze
Two Face
Poison Ivy
I will say one thing about The Batman series it did good in introducing Black Mask also their version of Firefly was good
Rumoured:
Movie Name: The Caped Crusader
Year: 2011
Batman/Bruce Wayne - Christian Bale
The Riddler - Johnny Depp
Penguin - Philip Seymour Hoffman
Let the Riddler return.
the riddler just is extraordinarily arrogant due to his high intellect he cannot fathom anyone smarter than him
@TheRealAkaRai I see your point, and to some degree I agree that they went to far with the character in The Batman. But the first episode with him I absolutly loved since he seemed like such a mysterious character eventhough u already knew everything about him.
Only reason why I like the Riddler is because he has the tallest fastest and longest Stand-up roller coaster named after him.
All the redesigns did was secure the fact that even though many of the voice actors were the same, this was a completely different universe- one that doesn't hold a candle to the animated series. Where they went wrong?? Who knows, but they did.
The Riddler is such an underrated Batman villain.
@Ken9284 Yes, Astin portrayed the Riddler in the episodes "Batman's Anniversary" and "A Riddling Controversy". John Astin was a total miscast as the prince of puzzlers as he was too stiff.
They are similar in the idea that they're agents of chaos.
But not in the fact what the creators are saying in that the Riddler was a clone of the Joker.
You are vengence, you are batman, you are THE NIGHT! Or just darkness in general.
You would have to ask the poster of the video. There's an option to remove those.
of all of the batman-villains, the riddler is my favourite. No doubt about it.
I always thought that the Riddler should be like Kevin Spacey in Seven. Psychotic serial killer with a twisted sense of logic, who takes joy in toying with his quarry.
How many files are there on the DVD anyway?
agree. after the Re-vamp, almost every villain kinda lost their crazy.
Thanks again, Superman TAS!!
@eris4angel
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"Hey diddle diddle. Time for a riddle."
It's from a Mother Goose nursery rhyme:
"Hey diddle diddle,
The Cat and the fiddle,
The Cow jumped over the moon,
The little Dog laughed to see such sport,
And the Dish ran away with the Spoon."
I think this Riddler WAS crazy, he was just extremely low-key about it... it takes insanity to think that erasing your personal history will accomplish anything, while declaring your previous life to be dead. "There is no Edward Nygma, there is only the Riddler," or something like that.
I always thought there was a lot more potential for the Riddler as a villain than what they had him doing. He's essentially a narcissistic serial criminal, which means he should utterly lack empathy and be capable of all kinds of atrocities, limited only by his immense imagination, but they could never make him anything other than just kind of goofy.
he's got OCD, he can't NOT leave a riddle.
AKA HE'S MENTALLY INSANE, even though he's the most aware of batman's enemies. he knows what he's doing, but he can't stop.
The Riddler on the new batman cartoon, "The Batman" is pretty cool. A lot better than those 2 versions
exactly, they dont want you to find out that he is riddler. In movie 3 we will probably see his WHOLE transformation
While I could not have seen Depp or Murphy playing him, I can picture Riddler in a Nolan movie. He would be more like Jigsaw from the SAW movies-he would kidnap prominent intellectuals and put them in death traps where they have to figure out how to survive, thus pitting his mind against theirs. And he would deliver his most sadistic lines in a very bored, detached kind of way, because to him the victims are not people, they are just numbers in an equation.
The Riddler only got 3 episodes but they were 3 high quality episodes.
I could see Riddler in a Nolan film, but he'd be different from his traditional characterization. I picture a version more like Jigsaw from SAW, who kidnaps prominent and powerful people and puts them in death traps so they have to figure out how to survive, thereby pitting their minds against his. He would not take delight in his crimes, he'd be bored by them-because to him they are numbers in an equation, not people. But he'd get excited matching wits with Batman, someone as smart as him.
lets clear things up a bit shall we? Scarecrow (formerly doctor Crane) used to be a psychologist who was obsessed with fear and its effects on people. this led him to experiment with a substance known as "fear toxin". The Riddler AKA Edward Nigma has severe OCD, going so far as to say that he is physically unable not to leave a riddle that would thwart his crime. he has a genius level IQ and is obsessed with proving himself to be batman's superior.
They didn't use him a lot because they couldn't come up with the puzzles, he's too complex.
Agreed, overall I liked the way they approached him in the original TAS over new batman adventures.
Riddler:Hey Diddle Diddle Time For A Riddle
do you know if they ever did one of these on the mad hatter (jervis tetch)?
it would be interesting to know why they suddenly made him so much shorter like in the comics
Not for the Golden/Silver age Gorshin-esque Riddler. For that he was perfect, and that's the version they went with. I thought Two-Face was bad, but I think Carrey's Riddler is very underrated because of how modern audiences percieve the character post ANIMATED SERIES.
has anyone considered crispen glover as the riddler. he was rumored for the joker for dark knight before heath ledger was announced but i think he's do an intense riddler like when he was in Willard. He'd have the quiet intensity as opposed to heath ledger's manic joker.
@FerneJohn Really? I didn't realize that Warner Bros also asked that him to put rubber nipples and oversized cod pieces on the costumes. I also didn't realize that they asked him to cast George Clooney a Batman.
@Arxsa I believe it's from the episode called "Over The Edge".
Bruce:He Was Brilliant He Was The Riddler But The Thing Is His Riddler Was Very Similar To The Joker’s Personality And Knowing That We Were Gonna Do That Really Manic Joker We Know We Had To Do Something Different With The Riddler We Didn’t Want Just Him Being Just A Joker Clone
It has definitely been confirmed that there will be at least one more movie but no one knows who is going to be the villians just yet. As a matter of fact, there have been rumors that Catwoman might be in the third movie as well as the Riddler rumors. So for now, it's all up in the air until Nolan decides to release info on the third movie. Though I must say he has his work cut out for him because it's going to be tough as hell trying to top the Dark Knight.
@Rantincorporated Ironically, the face of AC Riddler looks more like Jon Glover, who voices this Riddler and kinda sounds a lot like the one from AA and AC.
Also, if you mean that Riddler's traps in AC were like Jigsaw, then that's not that different from TAS Riddler, since Riddler in the comics and in TAS had traps just as elaborate.
0:51 Speaking of similar, in Arkham Asylum, in the pictures with the interview tapes, Joker's and Riddler's poses are almost exactly the same! O_O
If they bring out the Riddler in the new movie series they should look into an internet based villain. The old style of riddles wont work in the age of Google and Wikipedia, since one net search can solve just about anything. Having the character take advantage of the massive amount of information available online could create some truly devious puzzles and a dynamic supervilian for a new age.
The Riddler's redesign was the only one I ever really had a problem with. I just liked the suit that he wore in the animated series better. He didnt really appear very much in the new series. To my knowledge - he only appeared in "Over the Edge", ""Judgement Day", and a Superman episode called "Knight Time".
Ow, so you sow the movie? Test screening or somthing?
Bring back the Riddler with his awesome suit and tie D:
@emhis1 what version the btas or the new adventures or both
Am I the only one hearing Willie Watt's Theme Music in the background
Batman has only had one origin. His motives and purpose are clear. He has a real name, you can take off the mask and he still exists.
This has never been true of the Joker. He doesn't have a good backstory, he doesn't have a good psychology or motivation.
He is just the random manic enemy that the writers toss in to fill whatever role they happen to need at the moment.
And he stands unique amongst long-used characters for that, for no other character has so many blanks in their profile.
I loved Gorshin as the Riddler! He had such a infectious laugh, but he was quite a scary villain in some aspects he just had this sort of evil indertone that Carrey didn't. I mean I did like the movie, but he seemed like a child throwing a temper-tantrum. Still I see what you mean, both were very flamboyant and just forced you to smile (not like the though, Joker you know?).
Whats the name of that cartoon and which one is the name for the cartoon that mark Hamill is the joker