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*You 60% and TKL keyboard users confuse me. Do you not do your taxes? Do you not make spreadsheets, or do numerical research or calculations??? The keypad is designed so you can calculate things or enter numerical data without looking at the keys and do it quickly and effectively. You can't do that with the 1-0 keys above the alphabet keypad.*
As a numpad user I feel like I’m taking crazy pills because the numpad gets dunked on. I clicked this video as soon as I saw that beautiful section to the right of the arrow keys!
If I built a mechanical keyboard for work I’d never even consider *not* having a numpad! However, at home having more desk space is more important since it’s mostly used for streaming/gaming. Dunking on numpads is silly.
ISO Gang here. Thanks for highlighting the ISO options. Even when keyboards dont have those options, knowing that when they do, you'll mention them, is great comfort to us who want decent keyboards, but with a more traditional layout.
ISO gang rise up, I love split left shift for gaming and my JIS Realforce got me used to the tall enter key, both looks and feel. Almost bought that compact ergo with the southpaw numpad because of the iso support, if only it had tenting...
Rather than "deep and subjectively good," I think a more widely applicable definition would be "deep and partially muffled." "Clacky," by contrast, would be "higher pitched and sharp"
I have been recommending "bad" silent switches for YEARS and the community has always ridiculed me for it. I call this sound signature as "Muted". They are not silent, they are not thocky either, but they have properties from both. The bottomout sounds like a solid punch rather than a deep plastic to plastic contact. I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND LICHICX RED (tactile) and LICHICX LUCY (linear). honorable mention to GATERON CAP BLACK CRYSTAL SILENT REDS (better if you can get milky cap bottom housing and use the gateron nothpole as top housing). It is very important to spring swap these switches so they can also give that DEEP UPSTROKE. SEMI SILENT SWITCHES ARE AWESOME AND THIS IS A HILL IM WILLING TO DIE ON. Thank you for this video!! Bonus. The Rainy75 lite has the perfect internal acoustics to accentuate the deep punchy sounds of "bad" silent switches.
@@MrYeungMoney i use lichicx crimson red, also known as jkdk red. The invokeys daydreamer is also the same exact switch but with a heavy spring. Theremingoat wrote a review on both. Lichicx are my fave silent switches because they dont use dampeners. The whole bottom half of the stem is made of solid silencing material. No mush, all thump.
I don't need a num pad a lot but do prefer it for any number entry when needed. So in my ideal scenario I'd have it as a separate piece that I can move aside or even rebind if I felt dirty
Same! I see so many nice keyboards that I want to buy but I resist the urge because I know I won’t use them due to the lack of the numpad which I need for work 😅
So when can we get an actual 100% build? Some of us use our keyboards for work. Numpad, can't live without. Placement of end, home, delete, page up/down.... is perfect. I've been using the Montech MKey because it's the closest to what I need, but I can't get it apart to mod it.
How's the sound / feel of that? My wife has been on the hunt for a thoccy full keyboard for work which is why I clicked this video but 160 dollars is a bit more than we'd like to spend at the moment. But I see the MKey going for 80 dollars right now which is far more tempting.
royal kludge has a couple hot swappable 96% (same keys as 100% but in a more compact layout), the RK100 and RK98. i’ve had a modded RK84 over the past year and it’s really easy to take apart and customize!
@@adhdhikaru Right, but as mentioned it's a layout thing. A 96% still isn't a standard 100% layout. I don't want to try changing 25+ years of muscle memory to accommodate a different layout. I personally don't have the time to be less productive at work to learn.
This is true. I am not a keyboard nerd but goddamn did my Wooting start feeling good when I got Jade switches. I just kept on typing and tapping the keys after installation. I just enjoy using this now on top of being a great GAM1Ng KBd.
To me clacky sounds better because it makes the keyboard more lively usually whereas as a thocky keyboard usually just sounds dead to me. Sometimes i like the dead sound tho
Rust isn't the factor that gives you tetanus, it's soil/dirt on rust that does. I.e. a rusty old nail in dirt. It's a common misconception with tetanus. Not saying you shouldn't immediately visit a professional at first symptoms either. And hopefully Hipyo will recover from this terrible terrible injury.
While it isn't actually a word, I would assume it to be onomatopoeia, just like "click." When you say "click," the "i" actually forces you to either whisper the vowel or use a higher frequency for the vowel. This corresponds to the high pitched sound a tactile switch makes when actuated. You can analyze "thock" the same way. The "o" is almost baritone by comparison. The "TH" by itself also implies the sound of a linear switch being actuated rather than a tactile switch clinking. The baritone nature of the "o" in thock also reflect the way in which a linear switch echoes inside the keyboard when it bottoms out.
LEGIT. Thock is like like punk rock. "What's punk rock?" it's whatever you want it to be. It's special because of the friends we made along the way, and the way a keeb feels when we interact with it.
My keyboard just arrived and it sounds great stock. It's quiet enough that I can take it to the office without making all my coworkers want to kill me, but thocky enough that I can get that satisfaction
Zero experience on modding but I work on a logitech at work and simultaneously lost my will to live so thanks for reviewing keyboards like this for us filthy casuals!
This is an awesome keyboard and I would love to see more videos (or a roundup video) for keyboard with numpads/tenkey. I work in accounting and I struggle to find quality information on them! 98, 96, 100?! Let’s go!
Someone wanted me to spec them a silent keyboard with linears (They have no idea about keyboards, so that's not what they said, of course) "on the cheap", so that's the first switch I went to. I even put Lemons into a fighting controller for a friend, and I'll do the same. Outemu is just the best on a budget.
My personal preference is a deep pitched, creamy marbly sound. *chefs kiss* I also really really love a silent switch that sound reminiscent of raindrops on a window. I hope to build a silent keyboard soon specifically to take to my office!
I have been searching for a keyboard with a number pad that looks cute, sounds nice and is cheap…this does most of those things….now I gotta wait for a sale.
My definition of thock seems to be the same as Hipyo's, and I love it because when I'm thocking away, it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and it's very therapeutic, almost ASMR'ish
My definition of Tho(c)k is a World of Warcraft boss from Mists of Panderia........ Open the door... Get on the floor... Everyone, it's Thok the dinosaur.
Always nice to see more decent ISO keyboards. I'm in Québec and our Canadian French keyboards are ISO, we use the extra keys for grammatical accuracy. ISO is the international standard, it's really only the U.S.A. and Taiwan that officially use ANSI, which is really terrible at typing any language other than US English. The entire effing world officially is on ISO by academic and government standards but online shops often only carry ANSI-English, so as local companies are bought out or pushed to bankruptcy we can't even find proper keyboards to type our own languages in our own countries anymore.
Frankenswitcing is so fun, with so many possibilities. I recently made switches from CIY/KPrepublic sakura pok stem and 37g springs with Gateron smoothie housings, gives out a bright and creamy sound, I love it.
Thanks for doing a video for us few that like/need a numpad! ❤ Like many in the comments, I too like and use a numpad. And while I like a couple 75% keyboards, finding a stand alone numpad that aesthetically and aurally match seems impossible. For me, getting an "all-in-one" unit is preferred.
As a new entrant to the mechanical keyboard hobby, I appreciate you acknowledging those of us who might still be holding on to the numpad but who are interested in seeing what kinds of off-the-shelf options there might be available for those of us looking to start to dip our toes in to the hobby. This is a really interesting keyboard if only it came in a style of grey/black/gunmetal/carbon style for my personal preference of color. For now I’ll keep searching for an off-the shelf, full-size, mac friendly, thocky mechanical keyboard, with a knob if possible. Or I’ll resign myself to getting an 1800 style board in the color and call it good enough.
So. Instead of "thock" how about a keyboard that sings instead of pings. Or maybe a keyboard that sounds like tubular bells? Or the best a keyboard that sounds like angels are walking softly across the keys? LOL.
I was worried there wouldn't be a typing test after all that thock hype. Very happy there was. That is some silky smooth thock. Chef's kiss. Also numpad gang rise up!
Durability-wise, Kailh box switch variants are next to Cherry, but also had their share of issues in the past like it cracks the stems of keycaps. Nowadays, they made so many improvements while keeping their switches as durable by keeping the same box switch architecture. Very underrated switches.
Writing this comment from this keyboard. I absolutely love the thocky switches, probably my favorite keyboard ever. It's quiet enough that you can't hear it through my mic on streams but just loud enough to thock irl. I also love the southfacing LEDs which look awesome with side printed keycaps!
Just got this keyboard because of this video, and I have to say, Im very happy with the product :D I previously had the epomaker th80 pro, and this just feels SO much better and more premium compared to it, I was not expecting to like the product as much as I do tbh
Ive been looking for a switch like this for so long. So long. Leave it to the youtuber who got me into keyboards in the first place to put me on. Thank you hipyo
I like the deep, marbly sound. I used to like clicky, but I just got a Keychron Q2 with Gateron blues, and it legit sounds like typing on broken glass! Swapping those switches out now!
I like deep thock and I cannot lie. Well, thock and great key travel and mild resistance. Love the videos, including this one. Thanks for trying everything so we don't have to.
At this price point and form factor, I like the IF98 Pro with the Gateron G Pro yellow switches. It is unapologetically plastic but I just like the way it feels. The YZ98 seems like it would be good for people that want south facing LEDs its like $90. I almost always will go 1800 formfactor a 75% with a separate numpad because I need it. My primary software is Blender and that is the fastest way to change views, focus, etc. Not everyone needs a numpad but for those of us that do we are going to be vocal because we really need it.
Keychron Q6 Max + Gateron banana switches, the best full layout keyboard; I didn't need to tinker with anything, thock out of the box, and no stabilizer issues.
Dude. I’m building a Rohan themed keyboard to be my *main* keyboard for my desk set up and THESE SWITCHES ARE WHAT I NEEEEEEED. I settled for MMD Princess v3 because i do love a good tactile but what I had in my head was a sound like horse hooves thudding from a distance. These are them!! (Edoras Drop keycaps by the way)
Thock to me is a deep, full (as opposed to hollow) and heavy (as opposed to maybe rattling?) sound. Creamy and marbley are the same to me and they sound just like thock but not as deep, more like on the surface if that makes any sense.
Skyloong GK104 haver (thanks Hipyo for the coupon!) and numpad user here, I have a black model and swapped the caps to black Womier caps and it looks less tacky imo. Wish I could turn off the numpad screen when I don't need it, but it's not distracting and the calculator function is super helpful.
I also got it with their silent switches and after lubing them the sound is nice and deep, but also pretty quiet. It really is a lot of value for the money, if you can get past the software lol.
Awhile back I got some acoustic wall treatment squares at the same time as a fairly decent board that had never heard of foam and was under the impression that it was some kind of golf accessory based on it's tendency to PING, and a little light bulb appeared over my noggin. Long story short - repack your keebs with acoustic wall foam, and you will find the Diagon Alley express train to Thockland.
Not an exact answer to the question at the end of the video, but I from what I've seen, the best value thockiness with a numpad is the Leobog Hi98. Maybe some consider it more on the marbley side? It also lacks some features (wired only, no QMK/VIA, no ISO option, northface RGB, no knob). But it suits my needs perfectly fine, and has the best board and sound quality I've seen in a prebuilt. $100, often as low as $87 like right now, on whatgeek or aliexpress.
You forgot the Montech Mkey. You REVIEWED the TKL version (in a short, I wish you would do a full-length video about modding it) but they sell a full-size version for less than $100. I bought the TKL and the full-size for my two PCs and I love them. Very deep and marbley and sounds like ~~heaven~~.
This was the keyboard I was thinking of getting my mum for work for her birthday (she needs the num pad). Was gonna go for the silent one after the first varmilo video but why arent they as silent as the 75% one?.
The only other competitor to this board is probably the Monsgeek M2 as a direct 1800 competitor It's a bit dated now but overall still a solid board. They do have the M5 for the full size lovers out there.
Just took the plunge thanks to your videos and built my first keeb. Keychron Q5 with TTC frozen silent switches. I like it a lot, very quiet with just a hint of thock. I've only had it for two days and I already want to try out other switches WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!?!?!
I am curious... What has been your experience in type tests (related to sound) on changing the surface for the keyboard (as in the table or desk it may rest upon)? IMO, it appears that different surfaces have an effect on sounds, however, I do realize some switches are, in fact, "thockier" than others.
I am now running Outemu Silent Lemon because my wife hates the deep and "way too loud" sounds. I have a second board that's running Akko Rosewood, so wonderful both in sound and feel.
Thock is a full, resonant sound that makes the experience of typing - for people who have professions which demand a ton of typing, writers, programmers, etc, anyone who spends more than two hours a day, thock is the more resonant, deeper sound than the more high-pitched, clacky sound.
Hey Hipyo! Could you please review the NJ80-CP HE? (crazy name i know lol) it’s rapid trigger which is great for gaming but i am wondering about the build quality, feel, and sound. I think a review from the amazing Hipyo would be amazing :D
So I picked up this kb with your link and I absolutely love the switches, layout and the features it has. My only complaint is that the keycap coloring contrast is so low I could not make out any of the keys at all in a low light environment. I have some old decent Cherry? keycaps from waaaaay long ago for the (I think 2017) Massdrop Input Club K-Type Mechanical Keyboard. These are some of the best keycaps for my taste with (I think) an Cherry type cap with some shine though with the lettering. So I was hoping you might be able to direct me to some newer or higher contrast color keycaps that might pair well with this board? If you don't catch this comment it's OK, thanks for all the great videos!
Thock to me sounds like how marble counters look.... I have this set of reusable plastic ice cubes and they sound exactly how I imagine the best keyboard to sound, lmfao. Deep, beefy, and strong with a side of satisfaction.
Hey Hipyo, Great video! I reccomend checking out VGN S99 keyboard, also has a numpad and the sound is absolutely amazing right out the box and it's cheap! Definately something that would make a good video :) It's only 90 bucks, with tri connection too...
as someone who's only bought a Mechanical cheapo board because I got sick of replacing full Membrane keyboards every time one or two keys died: Tock is just the catch-all term for "pleasant keyboard sounds" maybe on the deeper end, but yeah, a lot of different pleasant Keyboard sounds seem to fall under "Thock"
also Numpads are good, they let you write Unicode wich for some reason the Number row doesn't; i just wish that for that price you were able to take it out when not needed, maybe even be able to mount it on the left
Was intrigued, until I saw how hard it is to take apart. Its lithium ion battery is inevitably going to be a problem, so buyers WILL either need to struggle to get the board open at some point, or toss the whole board.
I think the best value for money *with a numpad* would probably the QK100. It's barebones, and so costs a bit more to get up and running, but it's full aluminum and looks substantially better than the skyloong.
I found my own personal favorite sound with the gateron mini i switch. And then i had to put them in the keyboard i am building for my best friend's birthday. I don't even really love tactile, and it's kinda poppy, but it just sounds insane. I'm debating redoing my old, old max keyboards x7 with them (soldered switches and soldered LEDs old)
Hi Hipyo! New viewer here! I have browsed your playlist on keyboards and keycaps and i think you haven't done something like this... Is it possible for you to make a keyboard that looks "elegant and classical"? Something that evokes the style of vintage but has the modern tech of custom mechanical keyboards. Might be a silly suggestion, but thought i'd put it down. Have a good day!
Missing a little of the '-CK' of the thock. Needs a little crack in the back end. Deep, solid but undeniably not mushy or muted is true THOCK. Gotta have a little knock in the thock!
thock for me is more like marbley or deep crisp sounds..Like you were typing on a aboard made of ceramic. The only board i've had that comes close to my ideal thock would be my Rainy75, which i ironically discovered through your shorts
Edit: The switch at 8:50 is Outemu Silent Peach V2 Switch not Gateron smoothies.
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@@HipyoTech i would like to see your thought about the snoothies anyway
I am a thockk enjoyer, but clack i also nice, but ONLY if it's a supremely premium sounding clack. Thock is just much more pleasant usually.
The Peach Silent have a V3 variant now with led diffuser and pre lube for anyone who are looking to get them.
*You 60% and TKL keyboard users confuse me. Do you not do your taxes? Do you not make spreadsheets, or do numerical research or calculations??? The keypad is designed so you can calculate things or enter numerical data without looking at the keys and do it quickly and effectively. You can't do that with the 1-0 keys above the alphabet keypad.*
*Also.... Imagine a calculator that looked like this:*
*1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 + - x ÷ =* 😑
As a numpad user I feel like I’m taking crazy pills because the numpad gets dunked on. I clicked this video as soon as I saw that beautiful section to the right of the arrow keys!
Yeah, and if ur doing maths or equations it's a lot more efficient than using a huge spread - out number bar
If you are doing maths or equations it's a lot more efficient than using the spread-out number bar
Varmillo also has some true full sized 100% options (they call them 110%), if you like the big zero key.
If I built a mechanical keyboard for work I’d never even consider *not* having a numpad! However, at home having more desk space is more important since it’s mostly used for streaming/gaming. Dunking on numpads is silly.
Justice for number pad keyboards!!!
ISO Gang here.
Thanks for highlighting the ISO options. Even when keyboards dont have those options, knowing that when they do, you'll mention them, is great comfort to us who want decent keyboards, but with a more traditional layout.
Yes! Finally, this keyboard is actually just what i need, and i need ISO layout
I thought you were talking about iso like the agent in valorant
@@sajidjaber2513 lmao i havent realised that relevation yet. ISO is now the keyboard layout agent
ISO gang rise up, I love split left shift for gaming and my JIS Realforce got me used to the tall enter key, both looks and feel. Almost bought that compact ergo with the southpaw numpad because of the iso support, if only it had tenting...
Until recently I didn’t even know those seemingly irrelevant and small differences keyboards have are different layouts. Wow
Num pad gang like this message in solidarity.
I'm in Accounting. Num pad is a non-negotiable for me!
I will never own a KB without a full layout.
Still rocking my K70 Vengeance
Number pads are for accountants.
@@xraargu6212 IT pro here. I use num pads for data entry not relating to accounting.
Number pad is for Engineers
Rather than "deep and subjectively good," I think a more widely applicable definition would be "deep and partially muffled." "Clacky," by contrast, would be "higher pitched and sharp"
I have been recommending "bad" silent switches for YEARS and the community has always ridiculed me for it. I call this sound signature as "Muted". They are not silent, they are not thocky either, but they have properties from both. The bottomout sounds like a solid punch rather than a deep plastic to plastic contact. I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND LICHICX RED (tactile) and LICHICX LUCY (linear). honorable mention to GATERON CAP BLACK CRYSTAL SILENT REDS (better if you can get milky cap bottom housing and use the gateron nothpole as top housing). It is very important to spring swap these switches so they can also give that DEEP UPSTROKE. SEMI SILENT SWITCHES ARE AWESOME AND THIS IS A HILL IM WILLING TO DIE ON. Thank you for this video!!
Bonus. The Rainy75 lite has the perfect internal acoustics to accentuate the deep punchy sounds of "bad" silent switches.
What do you use on the rainy75? Trying to swap out the stock wob switches
Have you tried Gateron Zero Degrees? Pretty darn solid too.
Thank you for being the first to die on the hill, I will now join you.
@@MrYeungMoney i use lichicx crimson red, also known as jkdk red. The invokeys daydreamer is also the same exact switch but with a heavy spring. Theremingoat wrote a review on both. Lichicx are my fave silent switches because they dont use dampeners. The whole bottom half of the stem is made of solid silencing material. No mush, all thump.
@@ykt8469 i actually use those for my office numpad. Haha. It's also on some keys in my nd75 with cerakey keycaps.
I think the num pad being a divisive feature is interesting. I like a number pad for work cause I do a lot of number entry.
I don't need a num pad a lot but do prefer it for any number entry when needed. So in my ideal scenario I'd have it as a separate piece that I can move aside or even rebind if I felt dirty
@@curtislevey7639 can get TKL or 75% and just a separate numpad like Epomaker EK21
Same! I see so many nice keyboards that I want to buy but I resist the urge because I know I won’t use them due to the lack of the numpad which I need for work 😅
I prefer having it on the left
@@ST-in7fo southpaw?
So when can we get an actual 100% build? Some of us use our keyboards for work. Numpad, can't live without. Placement of end, home, delete, page up/down.... is perfect.
I've been using the Montech MKey because it's the closest to what I need, but I can't get it apart to mod it.
How's the sound / feel of that? My wife has been on the hunt for a thoccy full keyboard for work which is why I clicked this video but 160 dollars is a bit more than we'd like to spend at the moment. But I see the MKey going for 80 dollars right now which is far more tempting.
royal kludge has a couple hot swappable 96% (same keys as 100% but in a more compact layout), the RK100 and RK98. i’ve had a modded RK84 over the past year and it’s really easy to take apart and customize!
@@adhdhikaru Right, but as mentioned it's a layout thing. A 96% still isn't a standard 100% layout. I don't want to try changing 25+ years of muscle memory to accommodate a different layout. I personally don't have the time to be less productive at work to learn.
I get that keyboard sound is not objective and it’s subjective but why would you choose clack over thock like thock is just objectively better.
😂
This is true. I am not a keyboard nerd but goddamn did my Wooting start feeling good when I got Jade switches. I just kept on typing and tapping the keys after installation. I just enjoy using this now on top of being a great GAM1Ng KBd.
To me clacky sounds better because it makes the keyboard more lively usually whereas as a thocky keyboard usually just sounds dead to me. Sometimes i like the dead sound tho
Hell nah, calling it "objectively better" is crazy and so wrong
If it was subjective, then why would something be "objectively better"? Nice rage bait.
It's true we need more thocky keyboards with numpads..
Maybe the true thock is the friends we made along the way...
POISON DART FORGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROOOGIIEEEE include them more in your videos I DEMAND IT
Hipyo:
Band for band 🚫
Keyboard for keyboard ✅
the brain rot is wild af
@@imtheloaf this aint even brainrot. its just a normal song. other people brainrottify the song
@@MrAubyWaby true but now it’s main version is brainrottified
RIP Hipyo. Tetanus is not to be messed around with.
@@cliftonchurch6039 got the shot 🙏
Rust isn't the factor that gives you tetanus, it's soil/dirt on rust that does. I.e. a rusty old nail in dirt.
It's a common misconception with tetanus.
Not saying you shouldn't immediately visit a professional at first symptoms either. And hopefully Hipyo will recover from this terrible terrible injury.
Shipping to the UK is $50. Immediately puts this in the same price bucket as some other premium options at $225.
So bro waisted 15:30 minutes of my life yapping about the keyboard not even showcasing the sound.
THE KING OF YAPPING IS BACK AT IT AGAIN
lol bought this keyboard a few days ago and was looking for vids on it before buying but there werent many... now here we are :3
While it isn't actually a word, I would assume it to be onomatopoeia, just like "click." When you say "click," the "i" actually forces you to either whisper the vowel or use a higher frequency for the vowel. This corresponds to the high pitched sound a tactile switch makes when actuated. You can analyze "thock" the same way. The "o" is almost baritone by comparison. The "TH" by itself also implies the sound of a linear switch being actuated rather than a tactile switch clinking. The baritone nature of the "o" in thock also reflect the way in which a linear switch echoes inside the keyboard when it bottoms out.
LEGIT. Thock is like like punk rock. "What's punk rock?" it's whatever you want it to be. It's special because of the friends we made along the way, and the way a keeb feels when we interact with it.
My keyboard just arrived and it sounds great stock. It's quiet enough that I can take it to the office without making all my coworkers want to kill me, but thocky enough that I can get that satisfaction
Zero experience on modding but I work on a logitech at work and simultaneously lost my will to live so thanks for reviewing keyboards like this for us filthy casuals!
This is an awesome keyboard and I would love to see more videos (or a roundup video) for keyboard with numpads/tenkey. I work in accounting and I struggle to find quality information on them! 98, 96, 100?! Let’s go!
8:48 Pretty sure that's an Outemu Honey Peach, not a Gateron Smoothie 🤣
Oh yep I got that wrong, Outemu Silent Peach V2 Switch is the name!
Good spot
😎
Someone wanted me to spec them a silent keyboard with linears (They have no idea about keyboards, so that's not what they said, of course) "on the cheap", so that's the first switch I went to.
I even put Lemons into a fighting controller for a friend, and I'll do the same. Outemu is just the best on a budget.
V3 are even better. Better typing feel and they are more consisent.
My personal preference is a deep pitched, creamy marbly sound. *chefs kiss* I also really really love a silent switch that sound reminiscent of raindrops on a window. I hope to build a silent keyboard soon specifically to take to my office!
I have been searching for a keyboard with a number pad that looks cute, sounds nice and is cheap…this does most of those things….now I gotta wait for a sale.
Appreciation for the numpad gang representation 👍
THIS IS THOCK. DEEP, QUIET AND calming
My definition of thock seems to be the same as Hipyo's, and I love it because when I'm thocking away, it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and it's very therapeutic, almost ASMR'ish
Ok this is gonna sound very wrong but i would genuinely explain thock as "deep creamy"
I think it can have thock...and creamy sound at same time.
My definition of Tho(c)k is a World of Warcraft boss from Mists of Panderia........
Open the door...
Get on the floor...
Everyone, it's Thok the dinosaur.
Always nice to see more decent ISO keyboards. I'm in Québec and our Canadian French keyboards are ISO, we use the extra keys for grammatical accuracy. ISO is the international standard, it's really only the U.S.A. and Taiwan that officially use ANSI, which is really terrible at typing any language other than US English. The entire effing world officially is on ISO by academic and government standards but online shops often only carry ANSI-English, so as local companies are bought out or pushed to bankruptcy we can't even find proper keyboards to type our own languages in our own countries anymore.
I have tried over 20 different silent linear switches. The Kailh x Varmilo Prestige Silents are tied for my favorite.
Frankenswitcing is so fun, with so many possibilities.
I recently made switches from CIY/KPrepublic sakura pok stem and 37g springs with Gateron smoothie housings, gives out a bright and creamy sound, I love it.
Can you do a video on keycap materials, how they deeper, and how it helps when it comes to sound profile and thockability (yes that is a word)?
Thanks for doing a video for us few that like/need a numpad! ❤
Like many in the comments, I too like and use a numpad. And while I like a couple 75% keyboards, finding a stand alone numpad that aesthetically and aurally match seems impossible. For me, getting an "all-in-one" unit is preferred.
As a new entrant to the mechanical keyboard hobby, I appreciate you acknowledging those of us who might still be holding on to the numpad but who are interested in seeing what kinds of off-the-shelf options there might be available for those of us looking to start to dip our toes in to the hobby. This is a really interesting keyboard if only it came in a style of grey/black/gunmetal/carbon style for my personal preference of color. For now I’ll keep searching for an off-the shelf, full-size, mac friendly, thocky mechanical keyboard, with a knob if possible. Or I’ll resign myself to getting an 1800 style board in the color and call it good enough.
So. Instead of "thock" how about a keyboard that sings instead of pings. Or maybe a keyboard that sounds like tubular bells? Or the best a keyboard that sounds like angels are walking softly across the keys? LOL.
That's the Skyloong, it has built in speakers for key press sounds
@@elzafir ive never heard of this before what skyloong has this?
@@chickenchuggets6395 GK104
Thanks for reviewing 98% keyboard, I asked about it some time ago and you really did it. You're great!!!
I was worried there wouldn't be a typing test after all that thock hype. Very happy there was. That is some silky smooth thock. Chef's kiss.
Also numpad gang rise up!
Shraggy doing Keyboard reviews is so cool
0:17 when it sends shivers down your spine
Durability-wise, Kailh box switch variants are next to Cherry, but also had their share of issues in the past like it cracks the stems of keycaps.
Nowadays, they made so many improvements while keeping their switches as durable by keeping the same box switch architecture. Very underrated switches.
Writing this comment from this keyboard. I absolutely love the thocky switches, probably my favorite keyboard ever. It's quiet enough that you can't hear it through my mic on streams but just loud enough to thock irl. I also love the southfacing LEDs which look awesome with side printed keycaps!
Here's my definition:
Thock: Deep
Clack: High pitched (lego building sound)
Creamy: Poppy/marble sound
I just got this keyboard a couple of days ago and just so we're all clear... The hype is real. I love it.
Just got this keyboard because of this video, and I have to say, Im very happy with the product :D I previously had the epomaker th80 pro, and this just feels SO much better and more premium compared to it, I was not expecting to like the product as much as I do tbh
I'have had a good sounding marbly keyboard, a good sounding clacky. Thock is my sound without question. I still appreciate your thock keyboard videos
Ive been looking for a switch like this for so long. So long. Leave it to the youtuber who got me into keyboards in the first place to put me on. Thank you hipyo
I like the deep, marbly sound. I used to like clicky, but I just got a Keychron Q2 with Gateron blues, and it legit sounds like typing on broken glass! Swapping those switches out now!
I like deep thock and I cannot lie. Well, thock and great key travel and mild resistance. Love the videos, including this one. Thanks for trying everything so we don't have to.
Rip Hipyos thumb
Thock is the sound of angels singing. Also NUMPAD heck yes heck yes heck yes. Numpad and thock is everything.
At this price point and form factor, I like the IF98 Pro with the Gateron G Pro yellow switches. It is unapologetically plastic but I just like the way it feels. The YZ98 seems like it would be good for people that want south facing LEDs its like $90. I almost always will go 1800 formfactor a 75% with a separate numpad because I need it. My primary software is Blender and that is the fastest way to change views, focus, etc. Not everyone needs a numpad but for those of us that do we are going to be vocal because we really need it.
Keychron Q6 Max + Gateron banana switches, the best full layout keyboard; I didn't need to tinker with anything, thock out of the box, and no stabilizer issues.
Dude. I’m building a Rohan themed keyboard to be my *main* keyboard for my desk set up and THESE SWITCHES ARE WHAT I NEEEEEEED. I settled for MMD Princess v3 because i do love a good tactile but what I had in my head was a sound like horse hooves thudding from a distance. These are them!!
(Edoras Drop keycaps by the way)
Thock to me is a deep, full (as opposed to hollow) and heavy (as opposed to maybe rattling?) sound. Creamy and marbley are the same to me and they sound just like thock but not as deep, more like on the surface if that makes any sense.
Deep-pitched ,consistent, smooth sound.
You should make a vid where you test those switches in a ton of other keyboards and compare the 'thock'. 😊
great video hipyo!
really good video ! even if i'm not a fan of the mushy thock sound the keyboard makes
Skyloong GK104 haver (thanks Hipyo for the coupon!) and numpad user here, I have a black model and swapped the caps to black Womier caps and it looks less tacky imo. Wish I could turn off the numpad screen when I don't need it, but it's not distracting and the calculator function is super helpful.
I also got it with their silent switches and after lubing them the sound is nice and deep, but also pretty quiet. It really is a lot of value for the money, if you can get past the software lol.
Awhile back I got some acoustic wall treatment squares at the same time as a fairly decent board that had never heard of foam and was under the impression that it was some kind of golf accessory based on it's tendency to PING, and a little light bulb appeared over my noggin.
Long story short - repack your keebs with acoustic wall foam, and you will find the Diagon Alley express train to Thockland.
@HipyoTech Whats that gorgeous semitransparent keyboard you are holding at 0.44 ?
0:44
I would like to know too
Not an exact answer to the question at the end of the video, but I from what I've seen, the best value thockiness with a numpad is the Leobog Hi98. Maybe some consider it more on the marbley side? It also lacks some features (wired only, no QMK/VIA, no ISO option, northface RGB, no knob). But it suits my needs perfectly fine, and has the best board and sound quality I've seen in a prebuilt. $100, often as low as $87 like right now, on whatgeek or aliexpress.
You forgot the Montech Mkey. You REVIEWED the TKL version (in a short, I wish you would do a full-length video about modding it) but they sell a full-size version for less than $100. I bought the TKL and the full-size for my two PCs and I love them. Very deep and marbley and sounds like ~~heaven~~.
This was the keyboard I was thinking of getting my mum for work for her birthday (she needs the num pad). Was gonna go for the silent one after the first varmilo video but why arent they as silent as the 75% one?.
The only other competitor to this board is probably the Monsgeek M2 as a direct 1800 competitor
It's a bit dated now but overall still a solid board. They do have the M5 for the full size lovers out there.
Cool video. Now try molt zink solder into the keycap and taste the result
Vter Galaxy 100 or Ajazz AC100 best budget aluminum with numpad, can u try it?
Just took the plunge thanks to your videos and built my first keeb. Keychron Q5 with TTC frozen silent switches. I like it a lot, very quiet with just a hint of thock.
I've only had it for two days and I already want to try out other switches WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!?!?!
Varmilo’s prices aren’t the lowest ones, but their quality of products and customer service are top notch. You guys shouldn’t sleep on them.
I am curious... What has been your experience in type tests (related to sound) on changing the surface for the keyboard (as in the table or desk it may rest upon)? IMO, it appears that different surfaces have an effect on sounds, however, I do realize some switches are, in fact, "thockier" than others.
I am now running Outemu Silent Lemon because my wife hates the deep and "way too loud" sounds. I have a second board that's running Akko Rosewood, so wonderful both in sound and feel.
Thock is a full, resonant sound that makes the experience of typing - for people who have professions which demand a ton of typing, writers, programmers, etc, anyone who spends more than two hours a day, thock is the more resonant, deeper sound than the more high-pitched, clacky sound.
I have an old, 1980's green Alps keyboard, and it thocks good. One of the best thocks outside of some Topre boards.
That's my thock.
Editing glitch around 1:40 in case you missed it @HipyoTech :)
My brother. Any videos about a low profile thocky keyboard?? I dont want to wait for the lofree flow lite
How i define thock: "Something that cant be put into words"
Actually quite simple to write that down, i was expecting it to be hard.
Hey Hipyo! Could you please review the NJ80-CP HE? (crazy name i know lol) it’s rapid trigger which is great for gaming but i am wondering about the build quality, feel, and sound. I think a review from the amazing Hipyo would be amazing :D
dude whats up with dissing us poor accountants? we need the numpad ok?😢
Thock:✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️
So I picked up this kb with your link and I absolutely love the switches, layout and the features it has. My only complaint is that the keycap coloring contrast is so low I could not make out any of the keys at all in a low light environment. I have some old decent Cherry? keycaps from waaaaay long ago for the (I think 2017) Massdrop Input Club K-Type Mechanical Keyboard. These are some of the best keycaps for my taste with (I think) an Cherry type cap with some shine though with the lettering. So I was hoping you might be able to direct me to some newer or higher contrast color keycaps that might pair well with this board? If you don't catch this comment it's OK, thanks for all the great videos!
At $109 I think the best keyboard with a num pad is the RK S98. I love it right out of the box and it has a very marbley sound, which I love.
Hey Hipyo, will you make a video about recent Akko's wooden keyboard: MU01 with the latest and thockiest akko's switches ever - the Rosewood switches
Thock to me sounds like how marble counters look.... I have this set of reusable plastic ice cubes and they sound exactly how I imagine the best keyboard to sound, lmfao. Deep, beefy, and strong with a side of satisfaction.
Hey Hipyo, Great video!
I reccomend checking out VGN S99 keyboard, also has a numpad and the sound is absolutely amazing right out the box and it's cheap!
Definately something that would make a good video :)
It's only 90 bucks, with tri connection too...
as someone who's only bought a Mechanical cheapo board because I got sick of replacing full Membrane keyboards every time one or two keys died:
Tock is just the catch-all term for "pleasant keyboard sounds" maybe on the deeper end, but yeah, a lot of different pleasant Keyboard sounds seem to fall under "Thock"
also Numpads are good, they let you write Unicode wich for some reason the Number row doesn't; i just wish that for that price you were able to take it out when not needed, maybe even be able to mount it on the left
Was intrigued, until I saw how hard it is to take apart. Its lithium ion battery is inevitably going to be a problem, so buyers WILL either need to struggle to get the board open at some point, or toss the whole board.
I think the best value for money *with a numpad* would probably the QK100. It's barebones, and so costs a bit more to get up and running, but it's full aluminum and looks substantially better than the skyloong.
my man using the v-moda headset, they are so lovely aren't they ?
I found my own personal favorite sound with the gateron mini i switch. And then i had to put them in the keyboard i am building for my best friend's birthday.
I don't even really love tactile, and it's kinda poppy, but it just sounds insane. I'm debating redoing my old, old max keyboards x7 with them (soldered switches and soldered LEDs old)
Hi Hipyo! New viewer here! I have browsed your playlist on keyboards and keycaps and i think you haven't done something like this... Is it possible for you to make a keyboard that looks "elegant and classical"? Something that evokes the style of vintage but has the modern tech of custom mechanical keyboards. Might be a silly suggestion, but thought i'd put it down. Have a good day!
Bought the Epomaker X Feker Galaxy 80 after your video about it, and have been in sound heaven ever since.
Hey Hipyo when are you covering the 8bitdo keyboard/numpads? c:
Missing a little of the '-CK' of the thock. Needs a little crack in the back end. Deep, solid but undeniably not mushy or muted is true THOCK. Gotta have a little knock in the thock!
thock for me is more like marbley or deep crisp sounds..Like you were typing on a aboard made of ceramic. The only board i've had that comes close to my ideal thock would be my Rainy75, which i ironically discovered through your shorts
If you want marbly, hi75 with baby Kangs
The fact That This Is My First Time Watching This Guys Videos And I have The Same Background Wallpaper As Him
7:39 love the shaggy from scooby doo fit 😂
Thock=lego video game building noise