This monitor is a game changer! | MARS M1 review
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- Here's a short latency test people rightly said was missing from the video. My Bad. Hope this helps
• Latency Test MARS M1
A good video monitor is an essential accessory in any filmmakers kit. In this video I give my thoughts about the new Hollyland MARS M1 monitor. Which isn't just a good video monitor but is also a wireless video transmitter and receiver in one! Wireless video is very popular at the moment so it's interesting to have a monitor that combines three pieces of kit into one... but is it any good?
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The Mars M1 functions as an all-in-one transmitter, receiver, and monitor solution. You can switch between the transmitter and receiver modes on the monitoring screen. One transmitter can work with up to two receivers or four mobile apps. The Mars M1 can be used together with the Mars Pro and 4K series to reduce the number of devices required for a more efficient shooting experience.
The Mars M1 is designed with a 5.5" touch LCD screen featuring up to 1,000 nits of brightness. Professional colour calibration is performed during manufacturing, and multiple-level colour temperature adjustments are available. The screen supports the Rec. 709 colour gamut for excellent colour rendition. Five selectable 3D LUT presets are available for transferring colours to the monitor.
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Latency's an important issue with wireless monitors (particularly for focus-pulling), something the vendors compete on. If you ever do another review like this, please include some tests. Just point the transmitting camera at something that's moving and show the receiving monitor in-frame, so the audience can see the motion and the image of it; it doesn't matter that they're close together as latency isn't a function of distance.
This is a very fair point made very well. I should have included a latency test. This is the type of feedback I like to receive
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw I've seen the test you made linked in the video, do you think that latency is enough for focus pulling with a nucleus N or M?
@@Alber777 My honest answer is I just don't know. I don't pull focus so have no reference point on how much lag is acceptable. Strangely the monitor has more lag than the app but I don't find that an issue so maybe the app latency is fine. But I wouldn't want to give you bad advice. Maybe someone here can help you more.👍
@@Alber777 as a focus puller that has tested Hollyland’s new 4k system that uses the same tech as this monitor - the 60ms latency is far too much to pull effectively. Decent for a director’s feed but not as a pulling or wireless operating monitor
so glad you made this video, saw this monitor pop up on amazon and was intrigued
Hope this helped in some way.
Love your delivery in this review. I found the music being in-sync, whether or not you had connectivity, very entertaining.
Thanks, Ricardo. Glad you enjoyed that!
The best review of Mars M1. It's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
wow, starting the video with a door bell ring for my dog to go crazy. love it.
Very interesting system! I'm actually interested in getting a directors monitor and this looks like a great option especailly when pairing it with my ipad
Whaaaaa I have a black magic and have literally been waiting for something like this!!!! Amazing
Love Hollyland products. They're essentially a step down from Teradek's but well worth the price. We use them on set all the time.
Awesome. People seem to agree they make good products.
This is definitely a game changer!!! 🙌🏾
Great content. Got this monitor too it’s pretty neat. Now using it long time on my bmpcc rig.
Thanks, mate. It's a nifty bit of kit. Definitely takes a lot of hassle out of wireless video streaming.
Im loving the channel keep up,cant wait for the next tutorial chris
Thanks for the support mate. I really do appreciate it.
Great Review 👍🏻 New subscriber here. Cheers from Western Australian
Keep it going, I like your style!
Cheer mate, I appreciate that!
Anyone here a user of these monitors? I bought 2 of them and one is connected directly via hdmi to the camera - getting a 1080p 24fps signal and then transmitting it to a second M1 monitor. The overall delay between what's happening in front of the camera, and what shows up on the M1, is about 0.5 seconds, which is very high for a focus puller to use. I imagine anything above .2 seconds is entering un-usable territory. This company advertises (aggressively at that) a 0.08 second latency, meaning that what I'm seeing is over 6 times that. Anyone know if I'm doing something wrong?
The problem is that all this YTers who got the unit for free are much to positive. I have one, but the app is useless. The audio is 0.4 second out of sync. And the monitor for a focus puller? A joke. Also you can't switch on the zebra and the focus assist the same time..... And that focus assist? Much to thin. Useless. So the M1 is a nice toy. Not more.
Didn’t know about this particular monitor but I know about Hollyland we use two sets of sender&receivers in our corporate live-streaming setups… I just used it 3h ago to send a copy of the livestream outside the studio to a big tv in the waiting area where the audience got to have snacks … we also have used it during our first conferences since the pandemic with 400-500 people to send the presenter’s PowerPoint preview from the back of the hall/front of house to a tv/monitor on stage. We used to convert our hdmi signal to SDI then run a 50m SDI cable to the stage, convert it back to hdmi to get into the monitor. Just laying out the cable and taping it to the floor and having 300-500people walk on it all the conference is now a thing of the past. The hollyland transmission works great. Longer range than any of our usb clickers/presentation switchers, so we had to buy professional MicroCue clickers to match the range of the Hollyland. Highly recommend.
From what people are saying they seem to be quite established in the events/live tv world more so than the film world. I’d never heard of them probably because I’ve never needed to stream video. But yeah, they’re bigger than I knew 👍
That’s an awesome idea
Whenever I do conferences I run three of the cosmos they work excellent never had an issue
I run them to my switcher for live streaming as well crowd ranges from 200-600 people
Once playback is enabled for these it will be gamechanging for video assist carts.
brilliant video
Many thanks!
The thumbnail is very cool!
Cool, I'm glad you like it because it was not my original idea and I wasn't sure if it would do well.
I want to know that latency between the Mars M1 and Phone app plz.
Are there any cages that support this? Would like to use something similar to WC Director's Monitor cage with this for clients to hold but fear the Antennas would be problematic. .
I don't know about cages but they have side handles and other accessories on their web page.
i want one!
What’s the bizarrely wide handheld microphone you’re using? It does a good job of noise rejection outdoors.
It's a zoom H4n Pro with a MOVO wind cover.
I like your style. You're right, it's horrible to talk into the camera, good on you for not letting me know you felt that, until you said it.
Thanks, mate. Really appreciate you saying that. It's so unnatural to talk into the camera. I cringe every time I have to do it.
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw I've been doing live storytelling for a while now. I have no problem getting on stage and telling strangers my embarrassing stories. I still haven't put in the time to be able to do it on camera. Thanks for reminding me it takes work.
Nice monitor, gives Shinobi a run for their money. Info on what the SDI and HDMI give out would have been useful.
Very true! SDI is just a HD in. HDMI is a 4K 30p loop.
I bought and returned mine. I wanted to love it but it kept cutting in and out. I bought new cables and same result. I wanted to use my iPad as a monitor with the Hollyland. Bummer.
Yeah, that is a bummer. Can’t say I’ve had any drop out other than when testing the range for the video.
They should have pre-applied the screen protector. Saves plastic on the one you remove anyway.
Yeah, that’s a good point.
No 4k60 support via HDMI is unfortunately a no go for me.
Finally we get to see @jim Browning
Holyland are pretty well known for their wireless transmitters and receivers. They offer good bang for buck, but are known to have pretty drastic latency for pulling focus (they are good for a directors and client monitors however).
Would love to know how this stacks up for pulling focus in professional environments.
Do you happen to know what a good latency speed is for pulling focus? I might try and test it if people would be interested.
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw honestly I struggled to find hard numbers on ms delay recommendations. Teradek set the industry standard, and advertise as ‘0 latency’ , realistically it’s >1ms. It would be interesting to see how much of a difference the 8ms introduces . Maybe a side by side of this and a teradek would be the best way to identify use cases.
@@josephsavage1540 if only it was actually 8ms. They are advertising 80ms, not 8. And sadly, my real life result is around 450-500ms when transmitting from an M1 that's used for on-camera monitoring, to a second M1 that's there for the client / focus puller.
Are you able to control camera settings on screen?
No, you can’t control the camera.
Wait you never herd of hollyland and you do camera reviews?!?
Yep. Never needed to wirelessly stream video. But I excepted I seem to be in the minority.
You're funny this video was useful and also made me laugh.
Cheer, mate. Thanks.
Its a shame our carmeras dont have a native app that just do the wireless feed to our phones from the get go....
Depends what camera you got
no SDI output??
No, unfortunately not.
as a AV / IT service tech,, i almost creamed my pants when i saw the SDI
I know this is exactly the reaction Hollyland were hoping for.
You have under 3K subs and are getting free gear? Excellent my friend.
Yeah, man. I'm surprised too.
so is this better then the ninja V
Well, the ninja V is a recorder and the MARS M1 is a transmitter and receiver so it's hard to say if one is better.
Without support for at least 60p it’s not really useable. I’m always switching between 24p and 60p when I shoot Music Videos…
Hi Mat, what camera do you use? Some can send out a different frame rate over HDMI than what is getting recorded.
not a recorder though :(
Unfortunately not. Only a matter of time until someone does it, I'd bet.
That's only 1000 nits doesn't convince me to use to film outside 😕
It going to be a personal decision if that’s enough. I’d like it to be more, myself.
@Christopher Michael Law Yup true, in my case I use a feelword Lut7 brings 2200 nits, built with all LUT log for any camera and is great to film, well I use a Sony FS7m2, Fx3 and Fx6 to film and with that cameras you know the quality of those cameras. Well great video buddy. Cheers 🍻
nooooooooooo why no latency test 😭😭😭😭 love the review but no latency
You're right. My bad, on not including a latency test. There is now a link to one at the top of the description it if helps at all.
Dude sounding like he has 1M subscribers.
The fact that you havent heard of hollyland before this concerns me
Cool if you just need to see a picture. Pretty useless for critical focus. That is what I've found with anything cheap on the market sadly.
Oh man, Hollyland is a pretty good company. They are basically a Chinese company pretending to be European but if you don't need support, the products are reliable and good quality.
Yeah, turns out I might be in the minority not having heard of them before. The M1 feels like a good well made product so my first impression is a good one.
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw I use the Lark Wireless Mics and actually just replaced them with DJI (For no noticeable improvement, I should have stuck with the Lark but I gave to another TH-camr already). But really good and more on the pro side. Thanks for your content, happy to know you!
@@TheThaiLife I saw the Lark on their website and wondered if they were any good. Thanks for the tip. Nice talking to you mate.
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw You too! I look forward to staying in touch and for your content and thoughts. Thanks again.
How many nits brightness ? Didn’t watch the video sorry
1000nits
Great Video, quick question. Any idea why imported luts would show up black on the monitor?
@@GVaniMusic Sorry, I don't understand the question. They're making your footage look black when you apply them?
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw yes, when I select the luts I imported they work for like half a second then it turns black. I tried to delete and reimport them but have the same results. The luts work on my ninja and Shinobi so I'm not sure what is causing the issue. :(
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seen to many flaws for this monitor for it to be viable
4k 30 only, well its a no from me !
That's ok mate, it wont be for every one.
You just need to wait a bit longer, I expected this type of two-in-one directors monitor a few years ago, now finally someone start making it.
Why the hell is this glossy? I can't understand why companies make glossy monitors for video work. Is it that hard to make anti-glare screens?
That's a very good point, they should do that.
Well hard pass, since I shoot a blackmagic.
I don't get it. Why would having a Blackmagic make a difference?
@@ChristopherMichaelLaw Woops, I think I got my wires crossed there. I guess I can consider this field monitor for blackmagic after all.
lol
@@kurtnelle No worries man. Happens to us all.
The problem is that all this YTers who got the unit for free are much to positive. I have one, but the app is useless. The audio is 0.4 second out of sync. And the monitor for a focus puller? A joke. Also you can't switch on the zebra and the focus assist the same time..... And that focus assist? Much to thin. Useless. So the M1 is a nice toy. Not more.
stopped watching when you said you never heard of Hollylland, omg, hahahaha, for real
2 minutes of video with demos of the monitor 13 minutes of talking head. TH-cam infomercials
Too expensive for a filmaker beginner 🥲 or low budget
Tell me about it. The worst part of being into filmmaking is that everything costs so much.