It's pretty hard, but I don't think it's as bad as 2 waves of 2 concentrated beasts. I think they are hard for different reasons, it just feels this one is more about being able to do it on time rather than just being able to survive and deal enough damage.
thing with Hydro is: it has THE smallest 4* roster of any element, we haven't gotten a single hydro 4* since Candice and before her, we only had Barbara and Xingqiu who are 1.0 units so this situation was inevitable
Ikr it took me like 12 retries with nilou bloom, I ended up switching teams to a ayato xq fischl beidou team (the team that sevy used) to clear it. So painful.
After hours of trying I finished 12-1 with one second left on the seven minute mark. My characters are super well invested; this was just actually insane.
I'm really Curious... What Team Comps did you use for both Parts on 12-1? I'm asking since on my first Run-through _(of 4.7's Phase 2 Abyss)_ for the Rewards, as usual there was absolutely zero Challenge until Floor 12 _(I understand how so many Players are having trouble with Floor 11, especially protecting the Monolith, but it went well for me),_ and then, after trying a few Team Comps, I ended my 1st Run with 7/9 Stars for Floor 12: • 12-1: 2★ • 12-2: 2★ • 12-3: 3★ Today, I came back to get the 2 missing Stars from Chamber 1 & 2, and while I got my 3 Stars for 12-2 on the 1st try, I seem to be hitting a Wall in 12-1 !!! Tried a few variations on the same Teams, but no matter what I do, I end up 20-30 seconds too late! Teams are: - Part 1: • C1R1 Alhaitham • C2R1 Raiden Shogun • C2 Zhongli w/ Homa • C2R3 Nahida _Zhongli's on Noblesse HP/Geo/HP._ - Part 2: • C1R1 Neuvillette • C2R1 Furina • C1 Kazuha w/R2 Xiphos¹ • C6 Charlotte w/R5 Favonius Codex *¹-* _I do have Freedom Sworn, but in this Case, since I recently got Furina's Sig Sword and haven't had time yet to Farm more Golden Troupe Pieces with better ER Substats to compensate for Switching from an ER Sword (the Pipe), taking what I already have, Lvled it Up and thankfully got a few good Pieces with a bit of ER Substats, _*_I use R2 Xiphos' Moonlight on Kazuha for the Passive that gives ER% to everyone._* I have tried a few Variations on this Team, on top of what I used on my 1st Run, which was an Ayato Team _(to take advantage of the Abyss' Blessing that favors Normal Attack DPS)._ Tried substituting Kazuha _(since he's not useful against Pyro Lectors as his Burst always Absorbs Pyro when they're around)_ with: *• Fischl:* for her fast Off-Field Electro Application, *• Xinqiu:* for obvious reasons, but he didn't help much even if I was using some NA here and there, as it doesn't work with Neuvillette's CA Laser Beam, *• Nilou:* for her Skill's Hydro Aura, as I had found that it ripped through Pyro Shields from prior Experience, but it simply isn't really good enough for the Pyro Lectors' Tanky Shields, ------------------------------------------- Except for when using Nilou, the Clear Time stayed pretty consistent! Nilou made it worse. Now thinking about using Kokomi instead of Charlotte, and not sure about the last Slot. Kazuha sure helps clearing the other Waves faster, and Charlotte helped too for gathering Fanfare Stacks as she's an Off-Field Team Healer while Kokomi, even though her Jellyfish will boost Hydro Application against the Lectors, needs Field Time to Heal the Team. Had other ideas but message's already long enough as it is! *_ANY HELP, SUGGESTIONS, TIPS YOU COULD PROVIDE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!_* *_THANKS!_*
@@christiangauthier727 Not sure how much help I’ll be but 12-1 was Nilou, Furina, Nahida, and Baizhu. It was all about spacing bursts and skills. Baizhu is the driver. Nilou skill, Nahida skill, Furina skill, Baizhu ult. Then run to the Ruin guard. Furina ult, Nahida skill/ult, baizhu skill, Nilou skill. Run to the right for the two mechs Nahida skill, Nilou ult, Furina skill, Baizhu ult. Run all the way to the emerites as Nilou to immediately do her skill. Nahida skill/ult, Furina ult, Baizhu skill. Side two- Clorinde, Fischl, Kazuha, Kokomi. Fischl and Koko skill, tap kazuha skill, Clorinde ult and attack. Then fly with Fischl’s burst to the lectors. Quickly swap to Kazuha and burst so he swirls electro before the lectors ignite. Skill to pull them in. Koko Skill, then Clorinde Burst and attack. If you are strong enough to make the lectors go to phase 2, Koko ult to refresh skill. Fischl skill, tap skill Kazuha, back to Clorinde. If the shields aren’t done when her skill is over then attack with Koko. Fly to separate knights with Fischl Ult, Koko skill, Kazuha skill/burst, Clorinde burst and attack. If they live, Fischl skill, Kazuha skill, and by then you can probably go right back to Clorinde for another burst into skill and they die. Like I said, I had one second left. It took a lot of muscle memory. Granted, I only had two five star weapons and it’s two copies of Furina’s sword. One on her, and another on Nilou. Everyone else had 4 stars and Furina is C1. Fischl is C6 and everyone else is C0.
@@jonathanrobinson198 Thanks a lot for that! I'll try this after I get some sleep! I have ~35 different 5★ Weapons, have all Characters except for Venti and Xiao, and most of my 5 Star Characters have a few Constellations (I have plenty at C0, it really depends on if the Char is really 100% Complete at C0 and if C1 and C2 are really worth it), with only a handful of 4 Star Chars not being C6. So unless you've got Godly Artifacts compared to me, or are immensely more Skilled, then I'm pretty sure that I will be able to manage! Thanks so much for the Rotations & explaining a few key aspects of the Playstyle (like Absorbing Electro with Kazuha's Burst), this is really the Blueprint for Victory. I understand that you eventually got 3 Stars with barely 1 second to spare, but I think that it's normal with this insane Room with so many Waves of Monsters, many of which are really tough and/or take a long time to beat! I'll certainly practice the Rotations and I'll get there! I believe that your Team Comps are going to work! I can't thank you enough! I'll try to remember to come back to Post an Update once I'll have succeeded (unless I run out of time, since there's only a few days left)!
12-1 is the hardest. Not in terms of enemy difficulty but it's multi wave. 4 waves on the first and 3 on the second, and they made sure you'll use a fast Hydro applicator with Pyro Lectors 😂
Mihoyo: we don’t want more endgame content because it increases player stress. Also Mihoyo: we make these inhumane stress-inducing abyss 12s where you are just screwed if you don’t have certain characters, if you don’t have certain gear, if the monsters does weird shit, etc…
-"inhumane" -still possible to get *36 STARS* with only 4 stars on 1 STANDARD BANNER 5* SUPPORT like bruh, it's still easy AF as long as you've been playing for at least 6 months
@@guillex6443 With 6 months, not really. You're just not going to have the cons, artifact quality, or roster depth to make it easy. Just look at how close it was for IWin, and then realize his Kuki is C6. This matters, because Kuki get a bunch of extra elemental reaction triggering from her cons. That said, I don't think it is a bad thing that a 6 month old account can't easily 36 star floor 12 of the Abyss.
But I do enjoy this new a bit difficult experience in abyss.. I think it's time for hoyo to raises the difficulty to compete with other games and bring fresh experience. Also easy abyss is so boring like sometimes I hadn't even bother to play it.
One, it's endgame mode Unless you started some months ago, you'll have quite a few C6 4* and w/e 5* you picked up. You can take the video as a baseline and then update the teams based on what you've got. So calling this F2P is pretty true seeing how you won't actually use just 4*
damage wise thats just not possibel i guess. youll have to compensate with an actual 5* damage dealer to make up for the damage. were talking abyss 12 here
Yeah this is where I start sitting out on abyss with like 30 stars and wait until the new region comes out. And people say Genshin doesn't have powercreep, we've been having Abyss HP creep for like 4 patches straight.
For those players who said this is easy/the easiest abyss, answer these questions first: 1. Do you have a lot of C6 4 stars? 2. Do you have Neuvilette or Arlecchino? 3. Do you have 5 star weapons/constellation? 4. Do you have Kazuha/Nahida/Zhongli/Yelan/Furina? 5. How long have you been played? Just a reminder: Not everybody have a equal condition or resources/build that you have, so stop saying others is weaklings, be considerate please.
My Nilou literally made this abyss cycle a breeze (in 2nd half). AoE + Multiwave floors = Nilou Bloom Destruction! LOVE IT SO MUCH, NILOU MAINS eating good rn ❤😂
Damn, I didn't think about bringing her team to 2nd half 🤣, though I do bring her team to finish 12-1-1 because it's just so frustrating clearing that one when I used Alhaitham quickbloom (skill issue + play on phone, don't ask more)
They trying so hard for players to pull for 5 stars to easily clear abyss. Next time they'll put 9 waves in 1 floor and somehow, players can still clear it using 4 stars.
If only getting "perfect" artifacts is much possible these days, i would just give hoyo a middle finger and clear abyss without feeling disappointed of the difficulty spike regardless. Rn i have no choice but to feel stressed even if my 36s clear time isn't even that slower nor faster compared to the easier abyss rotations.
People are misremembering, they said other types content like the Abyss a.k.a. timed content with your own teams. Nothing about hard content in general, they also said they didn't have plans for it at the time which was shortly after the game's release, it has been nearly 4 years since then so they planned it a few years later so now we also have Imaginarium Theater.
In wuwa its basically the same. You just trying to clear a lvl 90 boss with character level 60. If you pick 4 stars level 60 to fight the weekly Arlequino 90 it will not be an easy task. Every mistake will be the last one. Newbies don't cry about chalanges, they just want more wishes to overcome difficulties with specific enemies. And when they get it, they starting crying about harder abyss ;) Lets wait some time and we will see how people deal with imaginarium.
@@diego6991True, their E6S5 Himeko really made things brain-dead easy on the other half. The swapping of abbreviations between Genshin and HSR is pretty relatable tho if you play both games a lot, lol.
It's time to make restart at each stage if they want to go in that direction... I don't know if they did it that hard to show WuW that GI have hard content too but it's just make reverse effect, it's unreasonably hard.
adding 1more wave of single fking ruin guard and 2 waves of shielded enemies doesnt make it hard, its just stall impact since the attack patterns of enemies in genshin is braindead, its either the mob actually try to attack you or it circles around you for 1minute doing nothing
Its easier with AOE tho she's not made for it so anyways I did it with her and it was a success did took me 3-4 tries tho I kept E'ing and Q'ing whenever I get the chance to get AOE and stop caring about her mark but using it instantly as its made to be this way
@@eraba661 yeah clearing the slimes where easy, the annoying part is both a hydro and ice slime freezing you while the other slimes focus on the obelisk. The only one reason I cleared it without freezing was when I finally switched to my kazuha from the first team.
@@imjustaguycalledsano I meant her range is alot lower than Nuvi, she's made for both single target and AOE and can do amazing in both of them but I specifically meant it for range here not that she cannot do it or her kit doesn't allow it
imagine IWTL strugling in the showcase speedrun with his C6 4 stars all great artifacts and weapons... XD now imagine many of us f2p or golden fish :,V
Hi mate, for the pyro lecturers u can group them up by simply waiting at the edge of where the pyro mages first spawn. The second pyro lecturer will move forward after one second and they will be side by side ! But this has a bit of rng sometimes but I hope it helps
And I thought last week 2x Electro Lecter was hell. HYV never fails to surprise us. It’s simply a wallet check combined with dps check, unit chdck and element check. not just usual skill check. “Don’t want to frustrate players with end game content” 😂
since its 800 primos now after every clear, hoyo is making sure most of the players wont get the full amount by adding these enemies cause for the first time in a while, i actually need to reset multiple times bruh 😭
This is gonna be a challenging one for me. I appreciate that it reset every month now tho bc I'm not in the right state of mind to challenge abyss rn there's quite some time for me to do it.
For chamber 1 2nd half a lil tip is if you have kokomi and yelan/xinquo it's amazing if you can group them together just use hyperbloom with nahida and raiden or kuki hope this helps someone this aybss is terrible imo I'm sick of it just being shields
Nothing like the enemies in the final wave of chamber one just deciding to phase out of existence for a second. So fun. I love when I can't damage the enemy :)
In order to 3-Star floor 12-1, I used 3 archons between the two halves. Side note : Xingqiu can kick the lectors together, same for Bennett’s Q. I find these methods faster than going to the rim of the battle field to wait for the lectors to come together.
1st half: Clorinde Zhongli Nahida Keqing 2nd half: Furina Yelan Xingqiu Jean I used 2 teams. It took about 01min10s to deal with on chamber 1st half In the wave of 2 pyro lectors, we can group them together by running to the edge of the left/right side so that our character and they are in a row, then 1 of them will go close to the other.
This abyss I challenge myself with 4star characters & weapons (F2P weapons). And I can complete this challenge by Top half : Heizou C3, XL C6, Benny C6 and Faru-senpai C6 / Bottom half : OG taser by Sucrose C1 with prototype amber for healing. Heizou’s burst can group 3 triangles first wave and 2 eremites after their summons die. Beidou, Fischl and XQ can clear pyro shield very effective. For 12-2 and 12-3 chamber, They are easy when you can past 12-1.😂
@@Arrmorant one thing mihoyo should learned that most casuals would stay committed to F2P experience and regular players mostly a low spenders. if they want to win the hearts of players to the point f2p will think about spending some buck on this game, hoyo should not be stingy to add better content that many players have been asking for, and it's not just endgame content. it's also UGC, QoL features. and proper bug fixes.
wake me up when we have actual difficult content that isn't just absurdly timed dps checks but content in which I can use the characters i spent months building and actually have fun
It is the first Abyss since over a year that I could not 3-star as a f2p-player. At least I 2-Stared all the chambers. I feel like this Abyss was designed with the new/broken carrys in mind. If you do not have them and/or godly artifacts it is verry difficult.
@@bushy9780 if you are still having doubts, he just posted a solo video with ganyu on 1st half and neuvillette on 2nd half. You should watch the video ☺
I thought my 36* star clearing streak would finally come to an end, but I still barely managed to 36* as a light spender, arguably the most annoying boss we've had in forever
theres literally like 4 waves per chamber nowadays, like you really need to kill them fast, the consecrated beast are so tanky and dangerous if youre not careful against them, literally bullet sponges that takes so much time to be eliminated and I hate their stalling so much, good thing I still manage to 36* it and my streak is still going strong, I have no trouble in some enemies, well tbf the pyro lectors are tricky to be group together but I have neuv and furina so theyre just getting lasered easily and I dont need cc unit for it, but 7 waves in 12-1 you really need some high aoe dps unit
@@lachillea i mean i dont utilize dendro in the 1st place. Also i said consecrated beast over electro lektors. If you wanna shred it then u either use vv shred or break the shield by infusing the core of the corresponding element ie electro and pyro. In this case the real threat is the mech boss bc baptist is basically a joke compared to 2 electro lektors.
Super, IWinToLose!! I love your clear explanations, and that you do this for mostly 4* characters and weapons! My problem is, I haven't really been able yet, to level my weapons to 90... Sometimes I seem to see only a very small level difference for a high price, so I thought it wasn't really worth it. But I begin to see that it can make a ton of difference. Focus, another issue I have :D. The fact that some weapons are promoted by lower leveling costs doesn't help of course, but I am the one to choose if I fall for that, if it is actually worth it. Thank you so much for sharing that it took you several hours (2-3 hours), because in videos like this it all seems so easy! I have never been able yet to clear Abyss 12-2, and only once or twice 12-1, without losing. But never a star... hehe. Weapons, that'll be it I suppose. And of course my characters: they are not 90 yet either, except for Kazuha. Anyway, if you see and have some remarks/recommendations, I'll be interested, but I understand if you don't have the time for it. I mainly and really mostly wanted to express my gratitude!
The fact that I had to play like 45 minutes to clear this abyss is ridicilous. Devs should touch some grass. For reference most abysses I cleared in 1-2 tries
I wish people can make a content or video of actually being f2p and a new player for 4.5 or 5.0 and above. Too often I see these "F2P teams" that almost assumes you're a veteran player by having C6 4 stars or just 4 stars that rarely shows up and it's annoying. The game is genuinely easy, but it's getting annoying if you're new to the game and f2p that you feel too much pressure to pull meta 5 star characters because too many 4 stars don't show up enough.
I dunno what you mean by meta but almost any limited 5* as long as they fit the needed elements can clear this Abyss quite easy. For first half you go Clorinde \ Al-haitham \ Nahida or any overloaded team(btw you dont need cheuvresse if you dont have her yet and use kazuha \ sucrose) and for Second half you go any hydro oriented team. For this abyss as long as you have some limited 5* hydros and Dendros you are fine. Nilou \ Yelan \ Ayato \ Childe \ Neuvilitte \ Furina there is plenty of them. But yea for sure if you just hate every hydro chars you ll suffer pain not because this specific abyss requies them but because Hydro is the strongest Elements in this game, much more universal than others
@@feyandhisstuff9888 That's hardly what you would call a "f2p" team. The way I define a F2P team is one where you use vanilla 4* characters that the game gives for free, including events, bonus if it doesn't require limited events so new players/accounts can try it themselves. Technically, any team for this game is F2P friendly if you've been around long enough. I know it's hard to make a content for that but that's honestly the type of video that would actually be useful. If people have been either playing for at least a year now or they have several 5* already like what your example implies, "F2P" contents/videos in this format are almost useless when the 4* market is almost as competitive as 5* characters.
@@ryanspinoza6586 Noone will ever design a hardest content to be cleared with day1 vanilla 4* after almost 4 years game exists. If you play long enough you can clear with c0r0 old 5* or c6r5 old 4*. Or if you brand new player you have something Like Clorinde \ Arlechino \ Navia \ Neuvilette etc so you can clear with them c0r0 with c0 old 4* as companions. In both ways f2p can clear that abyss. if the game was desighned to be cleared with Ember Keya c0 without any new 4* or new 5* or even old 5* invested whats the point to even play and get new heroes? And then whats the point in those primos for abyss 12 if you dont even need new heroes to play with? Also this patch we have Clorinde + Al-haitham and Furina + Sigwein if you start to play right now you'll have Clorinde + Furina at least (even if you lose 50\50 for both of them) and they both will clear you this abyss 12 before the day it resetts.
ive always one tried/speedrun the abyss before this, but this one really humbled me lmao. that multiple waves on 2nd half caught me offguard. will revisit again tonight.
They really looked at the first chamber and said "the second half needs one more wave after the lectors". And they put the two most boring not doing anything enemies of all time right at that spot. Also i think @iwtl you dismiss hyperblooms effectiveness against the pyro lectors. Xq, Nahida and any electro carry will break them pretty easily too. Flex slot hydro or electro.
When he thinks c6 Chevreuse is f2p friendly. What a great time to be alive. "I had to use Mona oooh and my c6 Chevreuse nvm her don't pay attention" She is just the same as c0 , sir just no.
This abyss rotation is just absurd FAR too many waves on both sides of 12-1, after beating my head on the wall I finally managed a team comp that was able to mow down the first half fast enough to give me enough time on the second. Team 1: Alhaitham, Nahida, Fischl, Kuki Shinobu / Heavy spread team with good AOE damage Team 2: Raiden Shogun, Xingqiu, Furina, Kazuha / Taser team to spread as much hydro and electro as fast as possible After completing floor 12-1, This team comp swept the rest of the floors with ease. Insane how much investment this rotation takes to 36*. *And for what it's worth I am FTP, but have been playing since 2020.
This abyss is honestly terrible...I feel like I melt the enemies almost instantly, but I still run out of time on the first floor. I'm not kidding by the way, I have the ability to 1 shot or almost one shot most enemies on the first side, and then the second side always gets hung up on the lectors.
Consecrated beast was hoyo response to "the enemies are too easy" lmao They really proved that soo many players complain about everything in abyss XD. Enemy hits too hard = bad Enemy can stun you = bad Enemy that actually uses reactions vs you = bad Atp, it's not even funny how people don't want to use different characters for abyss....
@@batoulizzakia1816 "we want abyss to be more difficult" Well, here's a nice check on your rotations, DPS, and understanding of the games mechanics and team building. Always nice to get something worth testing characters and skill like they did with that event with the bosses with more skills and difficulty to them.
Tbh, most Abyss enjoyers will actually complain about annoying bosses instead of hard hitting ones. Personally I would take consecrated beasts over the desert worm, the dancing mfs or the Chasm snake anytime.
They are not hard either, the only reason it feels hard is because we are on a tight timer. What a good desing, giving fck ton of hp and annoys with crap movements, yeah, just make a good fight ffs, not this cheap difficulty
actually impossible if you don't have enough of the right characters. my cracked c2 furina with signature weapon is absolutely useless in here. abyss has always been a sick joke but this is a new low
Why no one complaining about abyss changes ? They increased rewards but also increased It's duration so technically reduced overall reward. I just noticed that today that abyss last 30days and give up to 800 primos while before it was 15days and up to 600 so basically 600*2 = 1200, I'm devastated
Totally legit to use 5* here. Truly the hardest Abyss so far. I usually do not watch videos and enjoy beating it myself, but that Chamber 1 was just pure insanity. Uff.. took me 3 hours, but I 36* it.
Yeah. It’s not F2P. I mean sure you can replace Yelan with Mona and Nahida with Traveler. But next phase will be a terror without any hydro. Overload can work obviously but those beast scream hydro and shielder. I used my premium Neuvillette team just to finish it with ease Floor 1 - Hyperbloom Yelan Xingqiu Nahida Kuki Floor 2 - Neuvillette Hypercarry Baizhu Neuvi Furina Kazuha
The "F2P Showcase" in the vid has the same energy as "Hiring! No work experience required* (20 years work experience needed)" or like having 15 years work experience when you're 3 so you work 5 jobs at the same time.
Tbf I used my c3 r1 Raiden team with chev on 1st half and Neuv hypercarry on the 2nd half just to clear it as fast as possible. The real fun begins when I use my weaker teams
I knew it was gonna happen sooner or later The power level of new unites lately, especially in fontaine, has been rising So it was, but a matter of time until hoyo made abyss match the new level
man, this abyss just a bit stronger than 3.7 abyss and over all if you have ayato \ tartag \ nilou you'll be fine even without any of new chars. Also Al-haitham still insane for the first half. This abyss just a bit tricky because of pyro shields not about hp
@feyandhisstuff9888 yeah but it's hp pull id definitely much higher than any we had before and this stayed true throughout fontaine Abyss hp pull have been increasing slowly, but yeah I have nilou and she deleted the second half while my clorinde deleted the first
This one is an interesting one. My first attempt at f12 I felt that I was very underpowered and sure felt it was super hard but then literally second attempt with more optimized teams(usually take just random teams cause day one player so even as an almost f2p player I have decent enough builds) it actually felt pretty easy. I used Wanderer on first half and hutao on second and it just worked yk. Maybe I got lucky with the right characters built for this abyss but it seems like it just requires bit of planning and its easy else hard.
I hadn't played for four months, I started playing again and I was received like that. I've been playing since launch and this is the worst I've ever seen.
I remember last v3.7 chamber 1 and chamber 3, in chamber 1, 1 hydro abyss herald & 2 cryo abyss herald, then in chamber 3, there are 4 consecrated beast. Those are the most hardest clear💀
One of the reasons I liked playing chevreuse on 1st side is because her team rotations are generally pretty short. That helped me sync up each rotation with each wave as they came by. I tried using the standard rational team but with 4 f-in waves, my rotations were just felt so uncomfortable.
"Good" thing is, now we have 30 days to clear this abyss 💀💀💀 Compared to 4.6 where I was stuck at all floors that I had to change teams, this one had me stuck at floor 1. The rest of the floors are clearable in first try. Neuvi hyperbloom and Kokomi mono hydro finally cleared the floor 1 after few attempts. Hydro is making a comeback this time
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its low key arguable that c6 chevruese is less f2p than c6 mona LMAO
for real i couldn't even pull her when she was on the banner
true lol
playing for 2 and a half years, not f2p, i have 8 Monas and 0 Chevs...
XD I have c0 chevy too
You're not wrong.
C6 Chevy owner, it helped raiden was on the banner and saving, my Chevy team is Chevy, Yan fei, fishel and Raiden
4 waves and 3 waves on the 1st floor is crazy
Exactly... I somehow managed to 3* the other two chamber but damn that 12-1 is bullshit
The chamber 1 is so much harder than the rest of the floor... I think x.7 abysses are cursed
@@MrcreeperDXD777 Was the bs consecrated beasts abyss x.7 as well?
Its so hard bro and i still 6/9 star th
@@eksiongooi8011yeah if i remember correctly then 3.7 abyss has 4 beasts, 2 dendro and 2 hydro lmao
Man this is the revival of 3.7's abyss. I saw the consecrated beasts in the thumbnail and the triple dorito bots pop up and had war flashbacks.
This is easier , because they don't spawn at the same time. Would be a different story if they both spawned at the same time.
@@abhiss6705 Yeahhh after just playing through it, I agree. Still, something broke inside me when I had to face them lol
This feels much worse than the 3.7 abyss.
It's pretty hard, but I don't think it's as bad as 2 waves of 2 concentrated beasts. I think they are hard for different reasons, it just feels this one is more about being able to do it on time rather than just being able to survive and deal enough damage.
Got ptsd when I saw the beasts in 12-3 lol, I will never forget how 3.7 abyss forcefully made me learn how to memorize enemies attack patterns💀
thing with Hydro is: it has THE smallest 4* roster of any element, we haven't gotten a single hydro 4* since Candice and before her, we only had Barbara and Xingqiu who are 1.0 units so this situation was inevitable
Ofc the best element gets the most premium characters. No shortcuts!
The worst balancing on an element in terms of the roster
How tf does Mihoyo introduce the nation of water and still no Hydro 4*, geniunely how
So somehow I have all the hydro 5 star except nilou as an f2p
So somehow I have all the hydro 5 star except nilou as an f2p
Can we talk about how dirty 12-1 is? Those two abyss lecturers fucked so many of my runs
Bruh even with my neuvillet their shield is soo annoying
I’m actually melding on how the later stages are a breeze. Like how Tf is their shield so strong even against hydro ffs
Ikr it took me like 12 retries with nilou bloom, I ended up switching teams to a ayato xq fischl beidou team (the team that sevy used) to clear it. So painful.
@@pwehmoo8159
Had to use xingqiu with my neuvillette and just auto attack. Those pyro lectors got 2 zhonglis strapped to them for some reason
@@whatisbow2865 like honestly 💀
that crackhead in mihoyo hq really think its good to add more waves in the abbys because apparently people love wuthering waves
I doubt it has much to do with WuWa. The last Abyss cycle or two before the next region are almost always the hardest.
imagine being worried about a cheap clone like wuwa... its wild those wuwa devs have a job. They are so bad
lmao
@@mangshu21yet I'm having more fun in wuwa compared to genshin 😊
@@mangshu21 wuwa is really fun tho
11-1 was just venti’s playground LMAO
as a venti haver, DAMMIT I NEED TO.DO ABYSS MORE
Honestly somehow I did it with kazuha 😭
Dang it, I wish I pulled that man
tbf those 11-1 defend the monolith floor are always venti and kazuha's (and sucrose) floor
Floors 9 - 11 are super easy, barely an inconvenience.
this 4.7 Abyss really scream HYDRO so much LOL
Furina and Siggy banner, probably why
Siglose banner
Neuvillette 😎💳
Neuvi never fall
my nuvi and furina be eating good. waiting to get that 2nd constellation for furina next banner
After hours of trying I finished 12-1 with one second left on the seven minute mark.
My characters are super well invested; this was just actually insane.
I'm really Curious... What Team Comps did you use for both Parts on 12-1?
I'm asking since on my first Run-through _(of 4.7's Phase 2 Abyss)_ for the Rewards, as usual there was absolutely zero Challenge until Floor 12 _(I understand how so many Players are having trouble with Floor 11, especially protecting the Monolith, but it went well for me),_ and then, after trying a few Team Comps, I ended my 1st Run with 7/9 Stars for Floor 12:
• 12-1: 2★
• 12-2: 2★
• 12-3: 3★
Today, I came back to get the 2 missing Stars from Chamber 1 & 2, and while I got my 3 Stars for 12-2 on the 1st try, I seem to be hitting a Wall in 12-1 !!!
Tried a few variations on the same Teams, but no matter what I do, I end up 20-30 seconds too late!
Teams are:
- Part 1:
• C1R1 Alhaitham
• C2R1 Raiden Shogun
• C2 Zhongli w/ Homa
• C2R3 Nahida
_Zhongli's on Noblesse HP/Geo/HP._
- Part 2:
• C1R1 Neuvillette
• C2R1 Furina
• C1 Kazuha w/R2 Xiphos¹
• C6 Charlotte w/R5 Favonius Codex
*¹-* _I do have Freedom Sworn, but in this Case, since I recently got Furina's Sig Sword and haven't had time yet to Farm more Golden Troupe Pieces with better ER Substats to compensate for Switching from an ER Sword (the Pipe), taking what I already have, Lvled it Up and thankfully got a few good Pieces with a bit of ER Substats, _*_I use R2 Xiphos' Moonlight on Kazuha for the Passive that gives ER% to everyone._*
I have tried a few Variations on this Team, on top of what I used on my 1st Run, which was an Ayato Team _(to take advantage of the Abyss' Blessing that favors Normal Attack DPS)._
Tried substituting Kazuha _(since he's not useful against Pyro Lectors as his Burst always Absorbs Pyro when they're around)_ with:
*• Fischl:* for her fast Off-Field Electro Application,
*• Xinqiu:* for obvious reasons, but he didn't help much even if I was using some NA here and there, as it doesn't work with Neuvillette's CA Laser Beam,
*• Nilou:* for her Skill's Hydro Aura, as I had found that it ripped through Pyro Shields from prior Experience, but it simply isn't really good enough for the Pyro Lectors' Tanky Shields,
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Except for when using Nilou, the Clear Time stayed pretty consistent! Nilou made it worse.
Now thinking about using Kokomi instead of Charlotte, and not sure about the last Slot. Kazuha sure helps clearing the other Waves faster, and Charlotte helped too for gathering Fanfare Stacks as she's an Off-Field Team Healer while Kokomi, even though her Jellyfish will boost Hydro Application against the Lectors, needs Field Time to Heal the Team.
Had other ideas but message's already long enough as it is!
*_ANY HELP, SUGGESTIONS, TIPS YOU COULD PROVIDE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!_*
*_THANKS!_*
@@christiangauthier727 Not sure how much help I’ll be but 12-1 was Nilou, Furina, Nahida, and Baizhu. It was all about spacing bursts and skills. Baizhu is the driver.
Nilou skill, Nahida skill, Furina skill, Baizhu ult. Then run to the Ruin guard.
Furina ult, Nahida skill/ult, baizhu skill, Nilou skill. Run to the right for the two mechs
Nahida skill, Nilou ult, Furina skill, Baizhu ult. Run all the way to the emerites as Nilou to immediately do her skill.
Nahida skill/ult, Furina ult, Baizhu skill.
Side two- Clorinde, Fischl, Kazuha, Kokomi.
Fischl and Koko skill, tap kazuha skill, Clorinde ult and attack. Then fly with Fischl’s burst to the lectors.
Quickly swap to Kazuha and burst so he swirls electro before the lectors ignite. Skill to pull them in. Koko Skill, then Clorinde Burst and attack.
If you are strong enough to make the lectors go to phase 2, Koko ult to refresh skill. Fischl skill, tap skill Kazuha, back to Clorinde. If the shields aren’t done when her skill is over then attack with Koko.
Fly to separate knights with Fischl Ult, Koko skill, Kazuha skill/burst, Clorinde burst and attack. If they live, Fischl skill, Kazuha skill, and by then you can probably go right back to Clorinde for another burst into skill and they die.
Like I said, I had one second left. It took a lot of muscle memory. Granted, I only had two five star weapons and it’s two copies of Furina’s sword. One on her, and another on Nilou. Everyone else had 4 stars and Furina is C1. Fischl is C6 and everyone else is C0.
@@jonathanrobinson198 Thanks a lot for that! I'll try this after I get some sleep!
I have ~35 different 5★ Weapons, have all Characters except for Venti and Xiao, and most of my 5 Star Characters have a few Constellations (I have plenty at C0, it really depends on if the Char is really 100% Complete at C0 and if C1 and C2 are really worth it), with only a handful of 4 Star Chars not being C6.
So unless you've got Godly Artifacts compared to me, or are immensely more Skilled, then I'm pretty sure that I will be able to manage!
Thanks so much for the Rotations & explaining a few key aspects of the Playstyle (like Absorbing Electro with Kazuha's Burst), this is really the Blueprint for Victory.
I understand that you eventually got 3 Stars with barely 1 second to spare, but I think that it's normal with this insane Room with so many Waves of Monsters, many of which are really tough and/or take a long time to beat!
I'll certainly practice the Rotations and I'll get there! I believe that your Team Comps are going to work!
I can't thank you enough!
I'll try to remember to come back to Post an Update once I'll have succeeded (unless I run out of time, since there's only a few days left)!
12-1 is the hardest. Not in terms of enemy difficulty but it's multi wave. 4 waves on the first and 3 on the second, and they made sure you'll use a fast Hydro applicator with Pyro Lectors 😂
Mihoyo: we don’t want more endgame content because it increases player stress.
Also Mihoyo: we make these inhumane stress-inducing abyss 12s where you are just screwed if you don’t have certain characters, if you don’t have certain gear, if the monsters does weird shit, etc…
-"inhumane"
-still possible to get *36 STARS* with only 4 stars on 1 STANDARD BANNER 5* SUPPORT
like bruh, it's still easy AF as long as you've been playing for at least 6 months
@@guillex6443 With 6 months, not really. You're just not going to have the cons, artifact quality, or roster depth to make it easy. Just look at how close it was for IWin, and then realize his Kuki is C6. This matters, because Kuki get a bunch of extra elemental reaction triggering from her cons.
That said, I don't think it is a bad thing that a 6 month old account can't easily 36 star floor 12 of the Abyss.
But I do enjoy this new a bit difficult experience in abyss.. I think it's time for hoyo to raises the difficulty to compete with other games and bring fresh experience. Also easy abyss is so boring like sometimes I hadn't even bother to play it.
@@guillex6443 Who wants to play this shit game for that long? Thank fk WuWa released so I don't have to play this shit when I want to play a gacha.
True, harder abysses are way more fun@@m.ridzwan-26
C6 chevreuse is arguably way less f2p friendly than any 5*, had hopes you'd clear this time without a chevreuse team but nope
C6 chevreuse is not f2p
@@RayeedTua-vj8cpthat's what they said
One, it's endgame mode
Unless you started some months ago, you'll have quite a few C6 4* and w/e 5* you picked up. You can take the video as a baseline and then update the teams based on what you've got. So calling this F2P is pretty true seeing how you won't actually use just 4*
damage wise thats just not possibel i guess. youll have to compensate with an actual 5* damage dealer to make up for the damage. were talking abyss 12 here
Watch sevy's video. She always does it with 4* characters and weapons and its more f2p friendly
I've never thought I would be thankful for spirial abyss only resetting once
Yeah this is where I start sitting out on abyss with like 30 stars and wait until the new region comes out. And people say Genshin doesn't have powercreep, we've been having Abyss HP creep for like 4 patches straight.
For those players who said this is easy/the easiest abyss, answer these questions first:
1. Do you have a lot of C6 4 stars?
2. Do you have Neuvilette or Arlecchino?
3. Do you have 5 star weapons/constellation?
4. Do you have Kazuha/Nahida/Zhongli/Yelan/Furina?
5. How long have you been played?
Just a reminder: Not everybody have a equal condition or resources/build that you have, so stop saying others is weaklings, be considerate please.
Fr those are immatures that cannot read the room
It's like you people forget Hyperbloom exists, which trivializes the entire game.
but every player would have atleast two of those criteria so people should stop coping
@@Rpground ........
Skill issue
FLOOR 11-1 WAS ABSOLUTE HELL
try use Jean to knock them back, I tried many times too
What do you mean it's the easiest yet, you just kill slimes💀
My leyline was at 97% hp
@@FreddieSlash what team you used
If you have zhongli you can go fav or some ER on him, him being able to ult off cooldown helps stall the damage quite a bit.
Please tell me how to beat 11-1 i usually get 33 stars but i got 1 star in 11-1 lol absolute hell
10:59 "we managed to knock him up"
- IWTL, 2024
💀🌚
Pyro Agent: 🫃🏻
The only thing i dont want mihoyo to add on floor 12 is protecting the obelisk.
bro don't give them IDEAS 💀💀‼
My Nilou literally made this abyss cycle a breeze (in 2nd half). AoE + Multiwave floors = Nilou Bloom Destruction! LOVE IT SO MUCH, NILOU MAINS eating good rn ❤😂
Damn, I didn't think about bringing her team to 2nd half 🤣, though I do bring her team to finish 12-1-1 because it's just so frustrating clearing that one when I used Alhaitham quickbloom (skill issue + play on phone, don't ask more)
Nilou team rise up
Nilou next patch, right? I think they want to sell her value with this rotation 😅
I have so many characters and I feel like I use Nilou too much so this doesnt really change for me
I wonder if my Kaveh would suffice hahaha
"We don't make hard content because casual player may suffer from stress"
Remember that line?
Complete bs from corpo to cover up their lazyness and ait to squizee as much money from players as possible
They trying so hard for players to pull for 5 stars to easily clear abyss. Next time they'll put 9 waves in 1 floor and somehow, players can still clear it using 4 stars.
If only getting "perfect" artifacts is much possible these days, i would just give hoyo a middle finger and clear abyss without feeling disappointed of the difficulty spike regardless. Rn i have no choice but to feel stressed even if my 36s clear time isn't even that slower nor faster compared to the easier abyss rotations.
People are misremembering, they said other types content like the Abyss a.k.a. timed content with your own teams. Nothing about hard content in general, they also said they didn't have plans for it at the time which was shortly after the game's release, it has been nearly 4 years since then so they planned it a few years later so now we also have Imaginarium Theater.
They want players to pull the new premier dps units and supports.
My abyss rule is that after one try, that's it for the next 15 days. No need to be stressed for 50 more primos
Now it's about damm 100 primos
6 hours to go before the reset. I’m worried my 36* streak will end this time
o7
You have 29 days to complete this abyss
Don’t give up. Just try a little bit harder each time
@@siddharthuniyal7757 just 15 days 💀 we're getting imaginarium theater first week of July iirc
@@manilarome9600isn't abyss still gonna be there just that the reset for the rewards is now 30day? .
Hoyo :
We need to make abyss harder and challenging....
Also Hoyo:
Nah nvm. Just double the hp and add few more enemies.
There's a new one coming in two weeks
@@djampoucheukap1742 that won't be hard. It doesn't have the 50% more hp multiplier of abyss
Imagine if they add the local legends from Fontaine like Liam or Rocky Avildsen..
In wuwa its basically the same. You just trying to clear a lvl 90 boss with character level 60. If you pick 4 stars level 60 to fight the weekly Arlequino 90 it will not be an easy task. Every mistake will be the last one. Newbies don't cry about chalanges, they just want more wishes to overcome difficulties with specific enemies. And when they get it, they starting crying about harder abyss ;) Lets wait some time and we will see how people deal with imaginarium.
@@АлександрШестикрылов Still wont be hard enough. This game is entirely focused on casual players that play once a week.
Those c6 4 stars of yours are 2 maybe even 3 step stronger than c0 5 stars
Don't forget the S5 weapon
@@diego6991True, their E6S5 Himeko really made things brain-dead easy on the other half.
The swapping of abbreviations between Genshin and HSR is pretty relatable tho if you play both games a lot, lol.
It's time to make restart at each stage if they want to go in that direction...
I don't know if they did it that hard to show WuW that GI have hard content too but it's just make reverse effect, it's unreasonably hard.
adding 1more wave of single fking ruin guard and 2 waves of shielded enemies doesnt make it hard,
its just stall impact since the attack patterns of enemies in genshin is braindead,
its either the mob actually try to attack you or it circles around you for 1minute doing nothing
I used :
First Team :
• C0 Raiden Shogun
• C1 Yelan
• C6 Xiangling
• C6 Bennett
Second Team :
• C1 Kazuha
• C0 Kokomi
• C0 Furina
• C4 Mona
Hope this gives anyone some ideas 😅
I almost broke my keyboard in the floor where you have to protect the obelisk against cryo and hydro slimes and thats with a arlecchino 💀
Its easier with AOE tho she's not made for it so anyways I did it with her and it was a success did took me 3-4 tries tho I kept E'ing and Q'ing whenever I get the chance to get AOE and stop caring about her mark but using it instantly as its made to be this way
@@eraba661 yeah clearing the slimes where easy, the annoying part is both a hydro and ice slime freezing you while the other slimes focus on the obelisk. The only one reason I cleared it without freezing was when I finally switched to my kazuha from the first team.
@@tsuchinoko5227 I should have used him too but I play comfy so I had Zhongli instead lol
@@eraba661 Arle is made for AOE though?
@@imjustaguycalledsano I meant her range is alot lower than Nuvi, she's made for both single target and AOE and can do amazing in both of them but I specifically meant it for range here not that she cannot do it or her kit doesn't allow it
imagine IWTL strugling in the showcase speedrun with his C6 4 stars all great artifacts and weapons... XD now imagine many of us f2p or golden fish :,V
for abyss this time, the dps check is really high.
11-1 made me appreciate venti so much. In floor 2 i just ran arlecchino top and neuvilette btm team
Arlecchino and neuvillette players are not allowed to talk
@@rickykummel8279 ?
What teams did you use?
@@rickykummel8279 try to stop me 😛
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
All that suffering for less than 1 wish lmao.
It's 1 pull now, but yeah, the difficulty is spike @@eksiongooi8011
This new abyss 12 is created especially for masochists
@@eksiongooi8011that one wish that will get you a Black Tassel😂
@@eksiongooi8011it's 200 primos per floor now, do u even play the game?
12-1 is hell for me
It's a world of Neuviliette and we are just living in it.
Cheesed first half using Raiden overload team and 2nd half with Neuviiette Furina team
Well, in 1st half I used Raiden Nahida Alhaitham Quicken team instead….
Yea furina is the upcoming banner so no shit?
@@user-og9nl5mt1b
So? Chlorinde is current banner
@@monkeydspider8203 this abyss Is for double hydro idiot
arle better
Hi mate, for the pyro lecturers u can group them up by simply waiting at the edge of where the pyro mages first spawn. The second pyro lecturer will move forward after one second and they will be side by side ! But this has a bit of rng sometimes but I hope it helps
And I thought last week 2x Electro Lecter was hell. HYV never fails to surprise us. It’s simply a wallet check combined with dps check, unit chdck and element check. not just usual skill check. “Don’t want to frustrate players with end game content” 😂
since its 800 primos now after every clear, hoyo is making sure most of the players wont get the full amount by adding these enemies cause for the first time in a while, i actually need to reset multiple times bruh 😭
This is gonna be a challenging one for me.
I appreciate that it reset every month now tho bc I'm not in the right state of mind to challenge abyss rn there's quite some time for me to do it.
For chamber 1 2nd half a lil tip is if you have kokomi and yelan/xinquo it's amazing if you can group them together just use hyperbloom with nahida and raiden or kuki hope this helps someone this aybss is terrible imo I'm sick of it just being shields
shts crazy on 12-1 wtf
12-1 is stupid. It would be fine if they removed the knights OR the lectors, most players cannot clear 7 total waves in under 3 minutes
depends on the team comp though but yes it is very annoying.
Too tanky
Nothing like the enemies in the final wave of chamber one just deciding to phase out of existence for a second.
So fun. I love when I can't damage the enemy :)
In order to 3-Star floor 12-1, I used 3 archons between the two halves.
Side note : Xingqiu can kick the lectors together, same for Bennett’s Q. I find these methods faster than going to the rim of the battle field to wait for the lectors to come together.
For anyone struggling, don't worry you got 30 days now for retry and spend some cash on furina to make it happen *evil hoyo laugh*
1st half: Clorinde Zhongli Nahida Keqing
2nd half: Furina Yelan Xingqiu Jean
I used 2 teams. It took about 01min10s to deal with on chamber 1st half
In the wave of 2 pyro lectors, we can group them together by running to the edge of the left/right side so that our character and they are in a row, then 1 of them will go close to the other.
And here I am thinking I’ll be able to beat it 😔
This abyss I challenge myself with 4star characters & weapons (F2P weapons). And I can complete this challenge by Top half : Heizou C3, XL C6, Benny C6 and Faru-senpai C6 / Bottom half : OG taser by Sucrose C1 with prototype amber for healing. Heizou’s burst can group 3 triangles first wave and 2 eremites after their summons die. Beidou, Fischl and XQ can clear pyro shield very effective. For 12-2 and 12-3 chamber, They are easy when you can past 12-1.😂
What happened to:
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I be like: well try to make endgame content that is casual-friendly tho
That's the Duality of Hoyo. They are weirdos.
Lol
Well that's the point of endgame right? Harder content for endgame players with properly built teams, but still the rewards suuck.
@@Arrmorant one thing mihoyo should learned that most casuals would stay committed to F2P experience and regular players mostly a low spenders. if they want to win the hearts of players to the point f2p will think about spending some buck on this game, hoyo should not be stingy to add better content that many players have been asking for, and it's not just endgame content. it's also UGC, QoL features. and proper bug fixes.
wake me up when we have actual difficult content that isn't just absurdly timed dps checks but content in which I can use the characters i spent months building and actually have fun
Finally an abyss without Coppelius. Now I can bruteforce with Ayaya again
I've just been brute forcing it with ayaka regardless it's been varying levels of pain but furina helps
"F2P showcase" : **every 4 star is C6/R5 including chevreuse** lmao
Yea it's not f2p for sure
It's true i have tried with the same team with good artifact but it's impossible
And it's even expensive then a 5 star team because c6 r5 character is not guaranteed.lol bro what kind of joke is that?
Free to pay
First time watching IWTL?
ahhh. this what happens when influencers are asking for harder abyss
It is the first Abyss since over a year that I could not 3-star as a f2p-player. At least I 2-Stared all the chambers. I feel like this Abyss was designed with the new/broken carrys in mind. If you do not have them and/or godly artifacts it is verry difficult.
Gatekeeping Hydro never really changes huh
Consecrated Beasts on floor 12 = Absolute HELL
The gigachad you are looking for is “ Ken Rurouni “
He just cleared the new abyss with a full 4 star team 👍
c6 r5 4 stars?
@@bushy9780 not at all, he uses even under leveled characters
@@le_pinjanthat’s crazy. i’m gonna go check them out
@@bushy9780 if you are still having doubts, he just posted a solo video with ganyu on 1st half and neuvillette on 2nd half. You should watch the video ☺
I thought my 36* star clearing streak would finally come to an end, but I still barely managed to 36* as a light spender, arguably the most annoying boss we've had in forever
Feels like abyss got harder now that it gives 800 primogem total
1 extra pull for all the suffering. Noice
It gives less --- since its gona last longer than usual now.
@@Bullminator yep, but the new endgame makes up for it
Pfffffff
Always happens near the end of the current version. When Natlan releases, expect the first Abyss to be incredibly easy compared to this.
That 5 min speedrun washes off all the tiredness away 😂
WTF AM I LACKING?????
It's been so long since I used Ayaka team in Abyss. It's effective on the second halves of Floor 12. Just freeze everything.
theres literally like 4 waves per chamber nowadays, like you really need to kill them fast, the consecrated beast are so tanky and dangerous if youre not careful against them, literally bullet sponges that takes so much time to be eliminated and I hate their stalling so much, good thing I still manage to 36* it and my streak is still going strong, I have no trouble in some enemies, well tbf the pyro lectors are tricky to be group together but I have neuv and furina so theyre just getting lasered easily and I dont need cc unit for it, but 7 waves in 12-1 you really need some high aoe dps unit
Id take consecrated beast over electro lektors.
@@spinylightgamingagreed. last abyss was an element check and this time its a pure dps check.
@@Yelan-n8d hurts more when majority of my built units are electro during that time.
@@spinylightgamingi completely disagree, last abyss was a breeze compared to this. mostly bc dendro absolutely shreds through the electro shields.
@@lachillea i mean i dont utilize dendro in the 1st place. Also i said consecrated beast over electro lektors. If you wanna shred it then u either use vv shred or break the shield by infusing the core of the corresponding element ie electro and pyro.
In this case the real threat is the mech boss bc baptist is basically a joke compared to 2 electro lektors.
Super, IWinToLose!! I love your clear explanations, and that you do this for mostly 4* characters and weapons!
My problem is, I haven't really been able yet, to level my weapons to 90... Sometimes I seem to see only a very small level difference for a high price, so I thought it wasn't really worth it. But I begin to see that it can make a ton of difference. Focus, another issue I have :D. The fact that some weapons are promoted by lower leveling costs doesn't help of course, but I am the one to choose if I fall for that, if it is actually worth it.
Thank you so much for sharing that it took you several hours (2-3 hours), because in videos like this it all seems so easy! I have never been able yet to clear Abyss 12-2, and only once or twice 12-1, without losing. But never a star... hehe.
Weapons, that'll be it I suppose.
And of course my characters: they are not 90 yet either, except for Kazuha.
Anyway, if you see and have some remarks/recommendations, I'll be interested, but I understand if you don't have the time for it.
I mainly and really mostly wanted to express my gratitude!
the "kagu menki" cracks me up
The fact that I had to play like 45 minutes to clear this abyss is ridicilous. Devs should touch some grass. For reference most abysses I cleared in 1-2 tries
I wish people can make a content or video of actually being f2p and a new player for 4.5 or 5.0 and above. Too often I see these "F2P teams" that almost assumes you're a veteran player by having C6 4 stars or just 4 stars that rarely shows up and it's annoying. The game is genuinely easy, but it's getting annoying if you're new to the game and f2p that you feel too much pressure to pull meta 5 star characters because too many 4 stars don't show up enough.
I dunno what you mean by meta but almost any limited 5* as long as they fit the needed elements can clear this Abyss quite easy. For first half you go Clorinde \ Al-haitham \ Nahida or any overloaded team(btw you dont need cheuvresse if you dont have her yet and use kazuha \ sucrose) and for Second half you go any hydro oriented team. For this abyss as long as you have some limited 5* hydros and Dendros you are fine. Nilou \ Yelan \ Ayato \ Childe \ Neuvilitte \ Furina there is plenty of them. But yea for sure if you just hate every hydro chars you ll suffer pain not because this specific abyss requies them but because Hydro is the strongest Elements in this game, much more universal than others
@@feyandhisstuff9888 That's hardly what you would call a "f2p" team. The way I define a F2P team is one where you use vanilla 4* characters that the game gives for free, including events, bonus if it doesn't require limited events so new players/accounts can try it themselves.
Technically, any team for this game is F2P friendly if you've been around long enough. I know it's hard to make a content for that but that's honestly the type of video that would actually be useful. If people have been either playing for at least a year now or they have several 5* already like what your example implies, "F2P" contents/videos in this format are almost useless when the 4* market is almost as competitive as 5* characters.
@@ryanspinoza6586 Noone will ever design a hardest content to be cleared with day1 vanilla 4* after almost 4 years game exists. If you play long enough you can clear with c0r0 old 5* or c6r5 old 4*. Or if you brand new player you have something Like Clorinde \ Arlechino \ Navia \ Neuvilette etc so you can clear with them c0r0 with c0 old 4* as companions. In both ways f2p can clear that abyss. if the game was desighned to be cleared with Ember Keya c0 without any new 4* or new 5* or even old 5* invested whats the point to even play and get new heroes? And then whats the point in those primos for abyss 12 if you dont even need new heroes to play with? Also this patch we have Clorinde + Al-haitham and Furina + Sigwein if you start to play right now you'll have Clorinde + Furina at least (even if you lose 50\50 for both of them) and they both will clear you this abyss 12 before the day it resetts.
@@feyandhisstuff9888 lol almos no new f2p will have ALL those characters
@@feyandhisstuff9888 this video literally proved u wrong smh did u watch
TIP FOR 12-1-2 the lectures gather together if you run to the wall to the left of the left lecture
ive always one tried/speedrun the abyss before this, but this one really humbled me lmao. that multiple waves on 2nd half caught me offguard. will revisit again tonight.
They really looked at the first chamber and said "the second half needs one more wave after the lectors".
And they put the two most boring not doing anything enemies of all time right at that spot.
Also i think @iwtl you dismiss hyperblooms effectiveness against the pyro lectors. Xq, Nahida and any electro carry will break them pretty easily too. Flex slot hydro or electro.
Nothing survives neuvi's pump 😌
good ol' Neuvi Pump and Dump
AYO
Hydro Slime: Yes we can!
@@Gonzora eye of perception and Clam set Neuvillette: Who's we?
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesurcursed build
the last abyss of every version is always so brutal. i'm pulling my hair trying to split my neuvellete team in half
When he thinks c6 Chevreuse is f2p friendly. What a great time to be alive.
"I had to use Mona oooh and my c6 Chevreuse nvm her don't pay attention" She is just the same as c0 , sir just no.
He doesn't care, otherwise he wouldn't do it
This abyss rotation is just absurd FAR too many waves on both sides of 12-1, after beating my head on the wall I finally managed a team comp that was able to mow down the first half fast enough to give me enough time on the second.
Team 1: Alhaitham, Nahida, Fischl, Kuki Shinobu / Heavy spread team with good AOE damage
Team 2: Raiden Shogun, Xingqiu, Furina, Kazuha / Taser team to spread as much hydro and electro as fast as possible
After completing floor 12-1, This team comp swept the rest of the floors with ease. Insane how much investment this rotation takes to 36*. *And for what it's worth I am FTP, but have been playing since 2020.
"We don't want to give players excessive anxiety" 😂😂
This abyss is honestly terrible...I feel like I melt the enemies almost instantly, but I still run out of time on the first floor.
I'm not kidding by the way, I have the ability to 1 shot or almost one shot most enemies on the first side, and then the second side always gets hung up on the lectors.
Consecrated beast was hoyo response to "the enemies are too easy" lmao
They really proved that soo many players complain about everything in abyss XD.
Enemy hits too hard = bad
Enemy can stun you = bad
Enemy that actually uses reactions vs you = bad
Atp, it's not even funny how people don't want to use different characters for abyss....
I think they want to make x.7 abyss absolute hell like 3.7 abyss was so hard like this too
@@batoulizzakia1816 "we want abyss to be more difficult"
Well, here's a nice check on your rotations, DPS, and understanding of the games mechanics and team building.
Always nice to get something worth testing characters and skill like they did with that event with the bosses with more skills and difficulty to them.
Tbh, most Abyss enjoyers will actually complain about annoying bosses instead of hard hitting ones.
Personally I would take consecrated beasts over the desert worm, the dancing mfs or the Chasm snake anytime.
@@Chrisgarciam same lol
They are not hard either, the only reason it feels hard is because we are on a tight timer.
What a good desing, giving fck ton of hp and annoys with crap movements, yeah, just make a good fight ffs, not this cheap difficulty
whoever puts that many slimes on 11-1, i hope both sides of your pillow is always warm
It's been a while, but Nilou bloom absolutely destroys 2nd half. If you have her laying around, I recommend dusting her off and giving her a try 😂
I did and oh boy , they were falling like flies
My nilou's been benched since her first rerun (like 3.6) lmfao, i guess i have to build her now
i didnt even think of second half but youre right. i contemplated using her for first half because i like to brute force ASIMON with nilou
actually impossible if you don't have enough of the right characters. my cracked c2 furina with signature weapon is absolutely useless in here. abyss has always been a sick joke but this is a new low
Why no one complaining about abyss changes ? They increased rewards but also increased It's duration so technically reduced overall reward. I just noticed that today that abyss last 30days and give up to 800 primos while before it was 15days and up to 600 so basically 600*2 = 1200, I'm devastated
that's because it 's known that one of the abyss resets will be taken over by imaginarium theatre
ok thank you
@@GoProIMAXwe getting 220 extra primos with this change so it's win
Totally legit to use 5* here. Truly the hardest Abyss so far. I usually do not watch videos and enjoy beating it myself, but that Chamber 1 was just pure insanity. Uff.. took me 3 hours, but I 36* it.
Even with my C0R1 Neuvillette struggled against this current abyss lmao
thats why you need C2 Neuvi! - HYV
i had 1.5 minutes left in 12-3 using clorinde c0r0 and neuvilette c0r1
😢
@@feyandhisstuff9888 same except I used al haithem
Yeah. It’s not F2P. I mean sure you can replace Yelan with Mona and Nahida with Traveler. But next phase will be a terror without any hydro. Overload can work obviously but those beast scream hydro and shielder. I used my premium Neuvillette team just to finish it with ease
Floor 1 - Hyperbloom
Yelan Xingqiu Nahida Kuki
Floor 2 - Neuvillette Hypercarry
Baizhu Neuvi Furina Kazuha
Arlecchino Overload first Half
Neuvilette Hypercarry Second Half
The "F2P Showcase" in the vid has the same energy as "Hiring! No work experience required* (20 years work experience needed)" or like having 15 years work experience when you're 3 so you work 5 jobs at the same time.
11.1 and 12.1 are annoying.
doing a 4* run and using c6 chevreuse in both this video and the last one is actually crazy how is that meant to be f2p friendly
It's more like money Impact now
Tbf I used my c3 r1 Raiden team with chev on 1st half and Neuv hypercarry on the 2nd half just to clear it as fast as possible. The real fun begins when I use my weaker teams
I knew it was gonna happen sooner or later
The power level of new unites lately, especially in fontaine, has been rising
So it was, but a matter of time until hoyo made abyss match the new level
man, this abyss just a bit stronger than 3.7 abyss and over all if you have ayato \ tartag \ nilou you'll be fine even without any of new chars. Also Al-haitham still insane for the first half. This abyss just a bit tricky because of pyro shields not about hp
@feyandhisstuff9888 yeah but it's hp pull id definitely much higher than any we had before and this stayed true throughout fontaine
Abyss hp pull have been increasing slowly, but yeah I have nilou and she deleted the second half while my clorinde deleted the first
@@amvbro7033I think it's cannon now that every .7 abyss has shit lineup lol
@@llaflik I blame those disgusting sumeru beasts for causing this
@@llaflik canon
This one is an interesting one. My first attempt at f12 I felt that I was very underpowered and sure felt it was super hard but then literally second attempt with more optimized teams(usually take just random teams cause day one player so even as an almost f2p player I have decent enough builds) it actually felt pretty easy. I used Wanderer on first half and hutao on second and it just worked yk. Maybe I got lucky with the right characters built for this abyss but it seems like it just requires bit of planning and its easy else hard.
not right character
as a day one player, it s called hyper investment on subpar team
I really liked this abyss. It let me finally test my high invested Nilou.
Alhaitham nd Nuevi made this abyss doable
Arlecchino too
@@ronaldoalex2601what team did you have with her. What side as well?
@@The-hamster2471 her best is vape team with xingqiu/yelan or both
@@user-sq1oi9qp8w yeah, I use her standard vape team with yelan, kazu with freedom sworn (got it by accident) and benny
@@The-hamster2471 chamber 1 arle kazuha Bennett and zhongli
Chamber 2 furina raiden yelan kokomi
I hadn't played for four months, I started playing again and I was received like that. I've been playing since launch and this is the worst I've ever seen.
the silmes on floor 11 are soooooo fukingggg anoyinggg
Yea annoying asf
use aoe
xiangling
even taunt works
@@urnoob5528 yay thanks i done it with xiangling kazuha and bennet, nahida burn team easily w
They woke up and decided to add every single Teyvat enemy into this abyss 😭😭😭
this abyss kinda fun
Tried Alhaitam spread and Nahida hyperbloom
Alhaitam Yae Zhongli Dendro MC
Nahida Xingqiu Furina Kuku ( This team is insane 💀)
Alhaitham hyperbloom first half and Neuvillette/furina second half I got it
same, I still have skill issue with Alhaitham tho, the time isn't optimal
Good o'l ming and dendro keqing
it would be strange if you couldn't get it with such characters
Going to use the same
@@gargarbad6047try to use furina with alhaitham
I remember last v3.7 chamber 1 and chamber 3, in chamber 1, 1 hydro abyss herald & 2 cryo abyss herald, then in chamber 3, there are 4 consecrated beast. Those are the most hardest clear💀
I think I may just skip this floor 12 of the abyss and forgo those 150 primogems just to save myself the headache.
Anyway good video!
It's 200 now, not 150 anymore.
yeah bro. Just mow the neighbor's lawn and buy a welkin.
same, instead ill just try to beat d6 bosses in wuwa, atleast the fight is fun xD.
One of the reasons I liked playing chevreuse on 1st side is because her team rotations are generally pretty short. That helped me sync up each rotation with each wave as they came by. I tried using the standard rational team but with 4 f-in waves, my rotations were just felt so uncomfortable.
"Good" thing is, now we have 30 days to clear this abyss 💀💀💀
Compared to 4.6 where I was stuck at all floors that I had to change teams, this one had me stuck at floor 1. The rest of the floors are clearable in first try. Neuvi hyperbloom and Kokomi mono hydro finally cleared the floor 1 after few attempts. Hydro is making a comeback this time
the fuck u mean comeback
hydro aint no need comeback if it s always at the top and being the most broken element
@@urnoob5528bro wha how’s hydro the best element if dendro exists