As an American whos actually learned world history, yes, yes you did. Tbh there wasn't a single country in that war that didn't do something shitty, it just happens that Germany was the shittiest of all.
@@BerdersnerI think the allied forces did it for strategic reasons the Germans committed genocide for hatred and to oppress. It wasn’t like killing the Jews made it easier to beat other European countries. However, the us for example bombed Hiroshima to force the Japanese to surrender.
Right? No country in the world is innocent of committing atrocities against their own or other nationalities. Especially if they happen to be at war with another country.
Ignorance has no effect on preventing/facilitating atrocity- the government and big business contractors determine that. War =money. These are just blatant lies spewed so Palestinians can pretend to be victims of a war they started.
@@identifying.as.asovereignhuman I trust you weren't referring to me. im simply seeking clarification about a conflict on the opposite side of the planet from me.
These young people are not taught proper history in school, I live in Scotland and the only thing we were taught about was Germany invading Poland. No Scottish history (some of us were lucky to learn that from our families) or any other world history, it’s ridiculous. Knowing our history helps prevent us from making the same mistakes over and over.
@@MajorityOneTV-kb1xz Can you not use that brain of yours properly and see you can apply what I’m saying to the history of Isreal and any other country. Jesus Christ people who are dumb should listen instead of voicing nonsense.
Same as us in germany. From 7th grade on every year in history class. But ask a german about ww2: i swear they can only tell you something in regards to the jews. Nothing about how the nazis came to power. Or like war tactics and stuff. You have to learn that yourself
People dont understand the scale of modern war at all. 600 thousand died in the civil war. From muskets, knives, and fucking cannonballs. With a fucking population thats a joke compared to todays. And yet these days, with hundreds of millions of more people and weapons capable of killing millions in 3 seconds, 10,000 people die and they wanna call it ethnic cleansing. If war was conducted like it used to be, the death toll in palestine would be pushing 1-1.5million by now.
As a Mexican American ,I don't have a dog in the fight,but it's very clear that the Palestinians are in the wrong. If you allow Hamas to hide within your society then you are to blame. Oust the terrorists and have a sense of pride of your country. It is a conflict, the fact that this human is using the victim mentality is very disturbing.
How is fighting for your country freedom called terrorism? Nelson Mandela would school you for that. If you aim for Hamas, go for Hamas, leave the civillians. How is bombing hospitals get to kill Hamas. They are carpet bombing, they don't care who they kill, Hamas or civillians, hiding behind the excuse of "everybody in Gaza is Hamas". That is clearly genocide. This crowd is clearly bias and that gets to her nerve. Poor girl. That man would never go and get into argument with knowledgeable people about Palestine history, he bullies students, just like the group he loves. Coward.
As a Mexican American also, we must take into consideration the possible fact that Palestinian people are being forced to into supporting hamas and are truly victims of this war. We do not know if they live in fear of being hurt or killed by hamas. Perhaps they’re in the same boat as North Koreans with kim jong un.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Hamas are like Republicans in USA. They are winning by election. If I were in a land where my grandparents were kicked out and put in a walled area fully controlled and blocked by some foreigners who came out of nowhere and act like my master and treat me like a filthy dog, I'd choose a party that promise me my land back from those people too. But like any other party in any other nation, they can't be all happy with how KHamas is doing things in order to achieve their purpose. All the more reason Palestinians should be given their own sovereignty. Israel should leave them alone. This "wrath of retaliation" should stop. Pretty sure babies and kids weren't alive when they were elected, how people really think these babies and kids part of Hamas is infuriating.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 wait,but they want to find their voice in the U.S.A??? Let's not defend people who all of a sudden get a backbone to bark at our government but not to their own.
But your academics thrive on Greek history the most. In law - A queens council once said ,at the bar chambers we have a saying ,it takes a 100 Englishman to fool 1 Greek Is why the utmost importance we study Greek history, philosophy psychology to enable to determine the correct ruling of judgement.
@@LeoS300 75 years? I'm pretty sure The U.S. of A is more than 75 years old. The Greeks were pedos. The catholic church is full of pedos. Hollywood has always been full of pedos.
She's young and inexperienced to try and debate Ben. He should be debating or talking to the Grayzone like Max Blumenthal and Aaron mate on this subject. He will quickly get a lesson handed to him from the guys at Grayzone
As a german whose grandmother was bombed out in Frankfurt and had to flee: Thank you for doing so. With these bombing you cleared our brainwashed heads. I know whom you were fighting and I am doing my very best to fight every Neonazi I'm confronted with. I met a woman, born in the village near the KZ Auschwitz. She said she saw Mengele, she said she heard the kids cry for their moms and the moms for their kids and did not bother because she was brainwashed. When she had to flee to central germany, she came through burning Warshaw with her baby on her arms. She said that during this trail, she started to think. When after war she met her husband, she scolded him: "What have you done to the Russians that they became so hateful?! Don't tell me you did not rape women and burn their houses?!" Well this marriage did not last long. But this woman fought against any Nazi-ideology and any denial or even lack of knowledge, even in the geriatric home. Every nurse who ever had a night shift there, knew her story, and that she still hears the cries of the mothers and children at Auschwitz trainstation. In another geriatric home, they celebrated the end of war as the end of the Nazi Regime. I know, you are traumatized as well, as nobody can lighten such a fire in a city without being traumatized. Thank you for taking this upon you.
@@gerhardfink6737 no he isn't. War against an enemy that wants to exterminate you, especially one that embeds itself in civilian populations, is always like that. I'm not saying it should be like that but the alternative is a never ending war where even more people would die long term. However I'm willing to listen to why you believe the current conflict is different, and discuss it like civilised gentlemen.
Please don't attack an entire generation over some uneducated imbeciles. As a young (22 year old Gen Z) attending Oxford University, I 100% support Israel.
Yes! I have a cousin who talks about why babies are being killed. Well it's very sad and shouldn't happen But unfortunately that's what happens in a war..clearly some people have no idea of thr meaning of a war.
No the zionist were not defending themselves. Their objective was to create a country on land already occupied by a larger non Jewish majority. Who did not fancy being driven out by outsiders. Zionists massacred and ethnically cleansed Palestinians. So Atheist zionist from European countries can form a majority Jewish country. Just like Hamas Terrorists the zionist jews also had many Terrorist groups like the Irgun, Lehi Hagannah, attacking and even bombing British positions and killing Palestinians during Mandate palestine period because they wanted to create a state for themselves. When the Zionists were weak and powerless it was okay according to Fascistic zionist to engage on terrorism but now the Palestinians are the weaker group and they engaging in terrorism is Super Evil right. Zionism is a super ethno nationalist Fascist racist apartheid state that prioritises jews over the native non jews.
Here in the USA we've been lied to about our history and only today do I see people starting to realize the Illuminati has funded every war since the first French Revolution, aka the bankers, Rothchild's, the inbreed psychopathy family destroy our world.
@@earthworm_sallyearthworm_s3013 They haven't been occupying a country. Nobody seems to bat an eyelid that northern Cyprus has been occupied by Turkey for 50 years since they invasion of 1974. In fact people holiday there and have even bought stolen homes to live in or to use as holiday homes.
Yeah I feel that she should have mentioned the Russian casualties in comparison to Germans and Chinese Casualties in comparison to Japanese,that would have shut Ben logic there and then.
@@ZamanKhan-gw8bq I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. Ben was making a specific analogy and asking the student to take a moral stance on that specific, analogous situation. Reasoned, courteous, logical debate would require (1) a response to his direct question and/or a counterargument containing historical facts and ethical principles attempting to show the analogy was flawed; or (2) a concession that Ben had made a good point. Possibly followed by some other type of argument or claim, hopefully with more evidentiary basis and historical context than the first one. Pointing out the differences in casualties between Russian vs. German or Chinese vs. Japanese casualties wouldn't do any of those things.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben took Gemran and Brits casualties example and said that since Germans were killed more in comparison that does not mean Germans were right but on the contrary Chinese casualties were more in comparison to Japanese and Chinese were right and being oppressed by Imperial Japanese forces another example was Russians had more casualties as compared to Germans and Russians were right as gwrmams invaded their land. Let's go further jewsih partisan faced more casualties against Nazis and they were right since they were fighting the oppressor. Ben just took one example of world war out of context and tried to fit it in Palestinian conflict where as the above examples also fit in the same scenario.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben's whole argument isn't even analogous to this situation. Britain was killing enemy combatants while Israel is killing civilians . We're not talking about a small disparity here. Less than 20 combatants killed and over 8 thousands innocent civilians murdered. Anyone standing up for that is sick . If anything America should mind their own business and stay out of this conflict. If America wasn't sending billions of dollars, weapons and training then the Israeli government would never be acting this way. Lebanon Iran and Yemen would be at the front door in two seconds and Israel would be deserving of the visit.
This is sick , the fact that this man is justifying the death of innocent Palestinians as that of Nazis , Sick and inhumane and any person agreeing with him is not a human being 😒
What is the point of teaching and history? That means teaching them facts, and these theirs. They don't want to know facts. They just want to know their narrative. Because they're always right even when they're always wrong.
So Oxford just lost a big chunk of reputation because she doesnt know history? Or because she knows a history written by the victor? This university is supposed to be one of the best in the world. . .
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless. 😊😊😊😊
happens a lot these days but to debate someone like, well, literally ANYONE from the daily wire, you better bring your AAA Game! You better have the facts! Their team is untouchable, ive never seen ANY of them lose a single argument. not even close. They btfo lefties like taking candy from a baby.
These people are idiots. They are NOT part of a better or even brighter future. They are part of what will be a very very dark future if they continue toget their way.
@@utpalchoudhury330they're not using them they got involved, in war Soldier is not using civilian as shield but they got involved in battle because of war
If this discussion happened at any fucking Middle School anywhere in any country they should fire all of the teachers that presented the student but this is at University what the hell? This person's parent needs to find out what in the hell have they been paying so much money for this person to learn
I’m a highschool student and I pay very close attention to history class. I quite enjoy it. I just wish others would take advantage of education it’s very sad.
@@FNBRVolts well the education system is screwed up due to the lgbtq wanting to teach children like you their beliefs and bs information about their gay lives tbh
Palestinians declared war on Israel in October 2023 and that's it. Israel is simply continuing what Palestinians started. Why no one is actually asking Palestinians to stop this? Why no one is asking them to stop fighting this lost battle?
ANDA BERKOMEDI, SEBELUM 2023 ISRAEL MELAKUKAN PERANG SEMBUNYI DGN PALESTINA N WILAYAHNYA, TAHUN BESOK BISA MESIR, IRAK, YORDANIA, TURKI, SELURUH ARAB N DUNIA, DUNIA ZIONIS CS N ELIT GLOBAL GAK AKAN MERASA KENYANG N AMAN DGN HASIL RAMPOKAN NYA 😎😎😎🤫🤫🤫
@@michaiahelmehdi9911 Before 2023? Do you mean in 1948 when Israel was created and Palestinians and all the neighbouring countries declared war on Israel? Just 24 hours after the creation of the Israeli state.
Teaching my 8 year old about WWI right now, just covered the Turkish genocide of the Armenians. My daughter will not be blind to both the beauty and cruelty of this world, so she can hopefully make informed decisions in her future, learning the harsh lessons of the past.
Shapiro can stand there and spit all of his glib comebacks all he wants but the fact remains people are not buying the Israeli government's bullshit like they used to.
Unfortunately these people don't seem interested in truth, they have an agenda and they will choose to believe anything so long as it backs that agenda.....inspired by the evil one.
BRITAIN DID NOT OCCUPY GERMANY. Imagine guys if the brits killed asians en masse in their past colonies. Or the whites massacring blacks in apartheid africa. Ben Shapiro gives a sly argument in support of well trained IDF soldiers with modern weapons cowardly killing young children en masse. Please awaken your human conscience
I do want to add this: World War Two was what what is known as a “Total War” meaning every citizen of the enemy nation is part of the war effort. All countries involved killed civilians.
well yeah, originally the german air force was attacking tactical targets (air fields, fuel storage, factories, etc) And then the british sent a single bomber to hit a purely civilian target. Immediately afterwards, german air forces started targeting civilians. USA firebombed (using napalm) wooden cities in japan, killing more people with fire than both the atom bombs combined. the soviets we dont even need to talk about, the imperial japanese forces had things like Nankiang. Essentially, there were no "good guys" in ww2, it was "less evil"
So does that matter? She is still right and proved ben Shapiro wrong, Ben Shapiro asked that were Britain wrong, now as Britain Bombed civilians i have the authority to say yup Britain were wrong.
Well clearly she meant to say it wasn't one sided whereby British were bombing innocent German civilians with high tech and Germany were pretty much defenceless
@@thecovfefe340 IF*** she was hypothetically speaking jeez why does everything needs to be explained like a child to people like you. The situation with Gaza And Israel is unequal on every level.
The fact that the idiot shapiro started comparing it to German and Britain is absurd itself. In the world war neither sides were actually ethnically cleansing, or turning off water supply electricity or bombing children hospitals and ambulances on purpose like cowards in Israel are doing
@@EmMa-ck5wq you used hypothetically incorrectly, I would have too when I was a child. I don't think you're at an age to be discussing this after that comment, so I won't be responding any further.
HOW can a British woman NOT KNOW her country's RECENT history?!!! I now believe that public education in other countries must be just as bad as it is in the US.
As an Englishman, i say we should close down these universities. The ignorance of these students is astounding. The universities are clearly not doing their job
Ah, that assumes that what they are currently and have been doing isn't EXACTLY what they have become designed for. Maybe 100 years ago the colleges were for education, now it is solely for indoctrination and debt enslavement.
I’m embarrassed for her….. I bet she spent £100k on that piss poor education just to get schooled by a Yank😂😂😂😂 its depressing me how stupid young ppl are
@@Dogma210 The thought of me being attested for my deeds where all stand equal before god and in the hour and i will be questioned about my deeds enabled me to say that.
@Dogma210 you KNOW his phone told him to say that. That is all these people do...regurgitate whichever catch phrases their mainstream media and social media overlords tell them to repeat
@Gioatama cool story bro. Is your god going to question your moral support to the Palestinians who just butchered 1500 people, including hundreds and hundreds of women, children, and infant babies, and kidnapped a couple hundred more on 7 October? Would love to see you explain that one to your sky daddy
@@KelvinSG she is not stupid , she is correct in this topic which shows she is intelligent, she is not educated or prepared enough to articulate her position.
Exactly, 45% of all casualties being children and the most common age killed being 5 is just apart of war! We should be able to use the same moral compass as countries did in a day and age that had the likes of Hitler or Leopold II
@@Fifa-un9cq then why are they not fighting that army? Instead of fighting that army they are just bombing innocent civilians and hospitals isn't that true?
Yea it's like debating toddlers. They need protesters that are prepared with historical facts and political knowledge to debate. Ben Shapiro has training in debates. That's it. Ben loves destroying unprepared cry babies.
As a german, i give Mr Shapiro a plus plus for this reminder. There were civilians bombed in germany. Hitler was a bastard, but not all germans were Nazis and soldiers. And the britains were right to fight back.
As a German who was born and raised in the United States, I absolutely praise Shapiro for his knowledge, and people like you who know basic facts that German soldiers were not Nazis. My great grandfather was a sergeant in the Luftwaffe, his brother was in the Wehrmact, and another sibling also served in the Wehrmact, but later served the Soviet Union (Willy Reidel).
What’s worse for her argument is that she doesn’t realize Britain didn’t tell the Germans where they were gonna attack a day to a couple of weeks in advance.
@@Graphenorthats not what being argued here.. dresden was bombed in 2 days and killed 30k people. he tries to disprove her uniqueness of Israel as "the most violent ever" narrative, gaza is literally the center of hamas, dresden isnt.. the casualties are the same currently (with dresden respectively having less population around 600k and gaza 2.2m) and 5 months vs 2 days.
@@Graphenor BECAUSE DRESDEN IS AN ACTUAL Carpet bombing that killed almost 30k people in 2 days, the war in gaza from 5 months ago killed 30k currently and 8-12k are hamas (hamas admitted to 6k 3 months ago to reuters and Israel claims 12-14k) its not my fault you have 0 brains and cant differentiate these things.
@@Graphenor Are you lacking any understanding of argument capabilities? ben makes this point as a comeback to "britian didnt bomb civilians" because this neo-terrorist tries to make Israel seem like the only country ever to have bombed and killed many civilians in war, which dresden is a perfect response to that aswell as tokyo, nagasaki, hiroshima, cambodia..etc. My comment about the duration, because she tries to claim Israel is genociding gaza.. is that dresden took place in 2 days, and this current war is ongoing for 5 months.. which also disproves her entire perspective..I dont think you understand what is being argued here
Yes, that's right, England didn't directly carry out the bombing, but only ordered its minions & maybe one of them was the US & Israel.😁😁 as in the current case, England must be responsible for Rohingya immigrants, it is England who placed them in Yanmar. Don't let cases like Jewish/Israeli immigrants happen again. It was all the work of the British who mobilized & in the end Israel colonized Palestine. Everything the British did was at the root of potential conflict after centuries, and this was more than just the bombs the British dropped.
@DoD1009 ah yes, the "blame the imperialists" because they could see far into the future and understood everything so perfectly. Self-accountability us irrelevant when long-gone empires can be blamed. Don't get mad at me though, it was the Romans that set me up for this comment
@@DoD1009 I wish the Western nations had never encountered the Middle East or Africa. I also wish I could see if they had all our technology. It would be very interesting to see what they had achieved. Of course there would be no Palestine because the Romans would never have been there.
Were Hamas coming into the country of Israel first? And decapitating children and babies ? Were they torturing the parents and elderly in their homes? And are you on the side of the terrorists ?Do you want all of the people of Israel killed? And not to defend their people.. They have been feeding your people for years and this is how you treat them.? You can't hav
While it’s unfortunate, the left doesn’t teach history anymore. The left does not want you to be informed. The left just wants you to fall in line and support whatever position they take. I guess that’s why colleges are universities are more indoctrination than education. This woman is a good example of how ignorant and passionate a person can be on an issue. She does not know what’s she is talking about, she has no interest in finding out, and she is willing to die for it. 🤪🤪🤪
@@MrBLaCktech they may be. But that’s a well known terrorist tactic used by daesh/ISIS, Taliban, and others. Hide among the civilian population for cover. They don’t care that their actions are putting their own people in danger, so why should the IDF? They have barracks in hospitals and schools, in civilian housing. Israel told the Palestinians what was going to happen, and told them to leave and go south, and their own people called them traitors and fired rockets at them near the Egyptian border. The ones who chose to stay made an error in judgement. At this point, who’s to know who’s a civilian and whose a terrorist?
@@MrBLaCktechSure they are. And Israel is getting missiles and had "troops" go into Israel and shoot and RPG civilians. Tit for tat. Gotta love religion
@@huda2633I'm not a fan of ben, but I've never seen an Arab or Muslim debate that wasn't based on their own religious nonsense. so I highly doubt anyone even cares about the guy you're talking about 😂
Cause they aren't teaching history any more in university. They are teaching garbage like lesbian dance theory, gender studies, DEI and CRT crap, liberal studies, trans ideology, so on. NOT useful information. It's also why these liberals get out of Uni and can't find a job, cause their degrees are literally worthless and they know literally nothing about the real world. k-12 public school isn't any better.
She's a diversity hire, Oxford lost a lot of the prestige it once held. Not to say it is a bad college now but they are infested with the same woke BS that is plaguing the other colleges.
What do you know?Did Israel not bomb hospitals?did they not kill 10k civilians in the last 3 weeks?4k of them being childen?Have they not been forcing palestines to live in a apartheid state for 75 years?Did they not cut off water,food and electricity,which is collective punishment and a war crime?
No it shouldn't. It should be a criminal offense for PARENTS to fail in teaching their children the harsh realities of life. Stop expecting someone else to raise your kids for you!
Although she didn't say a single correct thing, she does have a nice vocabulary and British accent. Plus she realized Everyone knew she was clueless and pivoted quickly
There's a reason history is taught in our schools. Parents pay taxes so there will be schools to teach history so there won't be idiots like this woman.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas," Netanyahu told his Likud party's Knesset members in March 2019. "This is part of our strategy"
Well the government can literally propagandize their own people. So you have probably been brainwashed. It's been a thing since 1978. Usa can lie to Americans to further help their own economy
He can’t simply bring up Germany and Britain since the dynamics between those weren’t, aren’t and won’t be the same as they are now between Israel and Palestine. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is fueled by decades of conflict and the ongoing occupation of Palestine, while World War II was a global conflict with many different political and economic interests at stake. Additionally, the power imbalance between Israel and Palestine is not comparable to the power imbalance between the British and German militaries during World War II. Comparing it to WWII would only be appropriate in the context of Jews VS Nazis (not Germany VS Britain).
Now thats the type of person that knows their history that why those brain less creatures in the comment section did say anything to you cause they know for a fact that whatever they say will be used against them for sure
But at the same time world war 2 was different then what’s happening over in Palestine. Israel bombed 4 I think now correct me if I’m wrong hospitals in Palestine just to kill 1 Hamas leader. If you think about it they killed multiple children and also she is saying the Israel did it for no important reason. Palestine is just fighting back for what was originally there’s. Tell me your opinion
@@bobbuilder2240 I'm going to address one simple item you mentioned first. Israel did not bomb 4 hospitals. Specifically, I'll address the big lie that Israel bombed a hospital and 500 people were killed. The media, BBC and other jumped all over that to condem Israel right away. Photos. Everything. Except they had to walk back all of that when multiple investigations proved the hospital was not only not bombed by Israel, 500 people weren't killed.A rocket misfired and hit the hospital parking lot. It was a Hamas rocket that was supposed to hit Israelis nowhere near the area. Why would something like this happen? WellHamas made a lot of rickets icing material like pipes stolen from the Palestinian water system. (Israel gets blamed for the water problem, too.) One thing to keep in mind throughout all of this as it goes on. All Wars have a tier of propaganda. This propaganda war will be a lot different because of social media, mainstream media, and planning. The Oct 7th attack took 2 years to plan. Make no mistake, Hamas is accomplished at propaganda and they planned ahead for that. I'm seeing numerous sites on X that I'm fairly sure are supported by either Hamas, CAIR or simply radical supporters & people who hate Jews and Israel. But one look at London, New York City and universities to know this isn't all about Zionism or Israel. They HATE Jews. One particular post I saw today was some who posted a photo of a father with one leg holding up his son with no legs. The accusation was Israelis did this. In fact (and it took me 2 minutes to figure out) the photo is of a Syrian man and his son. The photo was taken in Italy a couple years ago. They are Syrian, not Palestinians. The father list his leg in the Syrian Civil War, nothing war. War did devastate the family but this was not about Jews or Israel. The son was born with no legs. His mother was apparently injured during the war or was ill and given medicine that caused the birth defect. (Like the so-called Thalidomide babies whose mothers took the drug for morning sickness and were born with missing and deformed limbs before it was recalled) In the meantime, there are hundreds of thousands of people happy to repost these lies and propaganda. Especially stupid college students who should cut them off and make them get a real job. (I digress) THAT, young man is the SHORT answer to part of your post. Israel didn't bomb 4 hospitals. As to the first part, this is very much like World War II, but on steroids & the world has gone insane. Hitler wanted to exterminate everyone but people he considered Aryans. Not just Jews (though he exterminated 6 million ), but also the disabled, Blacks, the mentally ill, children with Downs Syndrome.... you get it. 10 million people were exterminated. Hamas and many Palestinians are calling not for just the end of Israel,but again, the extermination of the Jews. Oh yeah... gays, lesbians, etc will not be given a pass. Infidels (read Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, Mormons, atheists and the like all fall under that category. There was already an almost horrible success at committing a Fatwa against Salman Rushdie, a British-American citizen on American soil. They are calling for Jihad on not just Jews but Infidels across the world. WWII really started when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931. Pappy Boyington and the Flying Tigers went to fight with the Chinese before the rest of the world woke up. This was also a clash of race and cultures. All Asains do not see all Asains as the same. Take a minute to educate yourself on the Rape of Nanjing (or Massacre of Nanjing) in 1937. It was barbaric, it was ruthless. So not like WWII? Different? No. It's WWII on steroids. And to stand aside and be quiet like people were before Kristallnacht, rounding up the Jews in ghettos, the camps will be disastrous on a worldwide level. (My old eyes need rest and a bigger screen. I'll have to answer the rest later. Be well.) By the way, I'm an athiest and I stand firmly with Israel 🇮🇱 and the Jewish people. When my father was in the army at the end of WWII, he was one of many doctors sent to help at liberated concentration camps. As for Palestinians being there first? Uh no
Everyone has an opinion the god 🙏 she is not an Yankee because she will not be allowed to speak littarly 100 year's ago in Britain.Freedom of speech has definitely came a long way.
Ben is embarrassing himself hanging about college picking on kids. He loves Israel so much why is he not over fighting instead of trying to manipulate others to do so
These so-called smart people should read historical articles having to do with wars! Stop hiring stupid professors who only teach made-up racist issues!
Why cause people are not brainwashed by who controls the narrative.Just cause ben says hamas everytime people bring up citizens shows how disengenous he is.I mean look at iraq war ect and how america funded alot of them.Comparing one just to excuse the idf actions is disgusting.
I’m a 21 year old Canadian man (west coast BC) and I am both proud of myself and disappointed of my generation that I do not think like most of my fellows within my age group. Probably.. -I can't really attest from my own personal experience to generally how moral and rational, or ignorant and delusional their thinking & ideology is, because since I moved cities last year, every single one of my friends that I hang out with in person now are older than me. At least 25, but most are early to mid 30’s and some in their 40’s, and that’s all because of the community that I surround myself with now. My current friends didn’t shape my ideology, I realized the BS of the progressive left as soon as I became interested in understanding politics, which started from my distrust and frustration with Trudeau, so I’m consistently puzzled why other young people my age strayed way off into left field (pun intended) with the “regressive” ideology. My best guess is social conformity, kids my age are parrots, and I find they struggle to put themselves in the shoes of the other side, especially when they’re emotionally worked up. They are often ignorant and they don’t look for impartial answers, they don’t know how to, and where to look for these answers, nor do they ask questions in attempt to understand the facts and the history of concepts that they have so many opinions about. They can’t admit to themselves or others when their feelings or opinions are effectively irrational but not affectively irrational, and don’t know that is normal and okay. Unable to separate emotional thought from rational thought. They are seemingly unable to try and separate their feelings from the reality that benefits our society as a whole and how to weigh the personal cost that their uninformed political outrage detriments their own mental, emotional, social, and spiritual wellbeing. Seems that many of them struggle to prioritize and regulate how much attention they give to that political emotion. And understandably so, because we’re still kids, we’re freshman in adulthood, many are growing up quickly and as a result are being radicalized at a young age where our emotional, moral, and rational regulation is underdeveloped. So just like how many people everyday are finally waking up to this madness, I hope my generation will follow. There will always be radical crazies, and they’re the loud minority, but I hope my generation will grow up and recover from their social homogeneity contagion and form their own opinions without fear of being canceled by their university peers. Thought I’d just share from my view as a young person and hopefully I could bring hope to at least 1 person, that there are still young people that believe in merit and the principles that make American society the best and most prosperous in the history of the world. I love Canada, I love the United States, I love freedom, and I love truth, even if it hurts sometimes. If you read allat thank you for listening to/reading my spiel, I hope my insight was helpful or interesting.
Bah, what a time we live in, where a geno cide is justified because "in a war almost 100 years ago civilians have been bombed so we repeat it". Shame on this grown up man who should be leading the new generations, not be on the devils side. What a world, what a world...
It wasn’t even tactically sound. It was all about revenge. Easy to Monday morning quarter back now. But ask your average English person in 1945! “Fuck them krauts” I’d imagine.
BUT is she really grown up? Possibly in her early 20's leading her debate purely off emotions and Ben is a Harvard lawyer graduate who loves to destroy crybabies. He has training in debates and casting doubt in any argument thus rendering them incapable of defending themselves. I would have said YES Britain was wrong killing any civilians but one would hope we learned from our past mistakes and is the whole reason why United nations was established in the first place. Ben Shapiro thinks revenge is the solution, kinda like when the Americans justified obliterating the native Americans because they attacked their settlers after they expanded out West into their territory. Sound familiar?
Because they dont teach real history. All they're told in "History class" is WHITE PEOPLE BAD and Marx was a saint and how the Romans werent all white and bullshit like this
They don't even know why their protesting. They do know they can pull this sh!t in America. They wouldn't dare or be allowed to do this in their own country.
Yes, they excel in ignorance more than any generation before them. And they haven't learnt to keep their mouths shut until they know what they are talking about. At university level! Unbelievable.
@@nuhakirmani3396 Take an educated guess. You have a 50/50 chance of getting it right. Here's a hint: Going to university provides no guarantee of a students education.
pfffft yeah cause the over 200 bombed factories were staffed by soldiers, absolutely, all the housing districts were secretly soldiers, those children were agents, Britain totally never bombed a civilian XD or the US, or France, or any nation for that matter, those dead 3 million dead civilian were secretly soldiers
Stole money - that’s why their leaders live in luxury in Qatar. Stole water pipes placed by the EU aid fund. Israel uses missiles to protect it’s people. Hamas uses innocent Gazans to protect it’s missiles. Now let’s compare… ⚖️
As a Brit I must inform you that yes we fucking did.
As an American whos actually learned world history, yes, yes you did. Tbh there wasn't a single country in that war that didn't do something shitty, it just happens that Germany was the shittiest of all.
@@BerdersnerI think the allied forces did it for strategic reasons the Germans committed genocide for hatred and to oppress. It wasn’t like killing the Jews made it easier to beat other European countries. However, the us for example bombed Hiroshima to force the Japanese to surrender.
Right? No country in the world is innocent of committing atrocities against their own or other nationalities. Especially if they happen to be at war with another country.
Thanks👍🏼
thank your fallen on behalf of a canadian jew
When you don't know history you'll be doomed to repeat it. This is a stellar example.
😂😂😂 what your spiking
Your Absolutely Correct!
Ignorance has no effect on preventing/facilitating atrocity- the government and big business contractors determine that. War =money. These are just blatant lies spewed so Palestinians can pretend to be victims of a war they started.
history always repeats itself
But his argument is to intentionally repeat history 🤔🤔🤨🤨
Palestine and Gaza called war… The Palestinians declared war on Israel and Israel gave them the war they ask for.
so the illegal occupation in lebanon and other arab countries for the past 7t yrs was js nothing then?
im confused. i thought hamas declared war? are hamas and the palestinians the same group? i genuinely dont know and am seeking clarification.
@@yt.silentknight if Palestines support hamas then yes.....none of them have come to condemn hamas acts.
Yall are what's wrong with the world... Netanyahu supported Hamas also.
@@identifying.as.asovereignhuman I trust you weren't referring to me. im simply seeking clarification about a conflict on the opposite side of the planet from me.
These young people are not taught proper history in school, I live in Scotland and the only thing we were taught about was Germany invading Poland. No Scottish history (some of us were lucky to learn that from our families) or any other world history, it’s ridiculous. Knowing our history helps prevent us from making the same mistakes over and over.
Too bad this has nothing to do with WW2.
@@MajorityOneTV-kb1xz Can you not use that brain of yours properly and see you can apply what I’m saying to the history of Isreal and any other country. Jesus Christ people who are dumb should listen instead of voicing nonsense.
You are right about that - what I learned I had to research myself.
Same as us in germany. From 7th grade on every year in history class. But ask a german about ww2: i swear they can only tell you something in regards to the jews. Nothing about how the nazis came to power. Or like war tactics and stuff. You have to learn that yourself
All we learn in America is the Civil War and WW2(only the European front)
As soon as she stated " British didn't bombard civilians" everyone knows something is wrong 😂
People dont understand the scale of modern war at all.
600 thousand died in the civil war. From muskets, knives, and fucking cannonballs. With a fucking population thats a joke compared to todays.
And yet these days, with hundreds of millions of more people and weapons capable of killing millions in 3 seconds, 10,000 people die and they wanna call it ethnic cleansing.
If war was conducted like it used to be, the death toll in palestine would be pushing 1-1.5million by now.
The audible reaction was fantastic.
Too many “refugees”
😂😂😂 Ignorance is vice😊
Dresden
Wait till she hears about how America won the war against Japan. It’ll blow her mind
it definitely Blew a couple hundred thousand Japanese people's minds
@@xspendable1too soon!!!
@@xspendable1*evaporate
They were warned and told to evacuate. Still a horrible tragedy nonetheless.
@@davidhodge0201but it's truly save billions of lives. Japan wouldn't stop their sh*t in China and east Asia
As a Mexican American ,I don't have a dog in the fight,but it's very clear that the Palestinians are in the wrong. If you allow Hamas to hide within your society then you are to blame. Oust the terrorists and have a sense of pride of your country. It is a conflict, the fact that this human is using the victim mentality is very disturbing.
How is fighting for your country freedom called terrorism? Nelson Mandela would school you for that. If you aim for Hamas, go for Hamas, leave the civillians. How is bombing hospitals get to kill Hamas. They are carpet bombing, they don't care who they kill, Hamas or civillians, hiding behind the excuse of "everybody in Gaza is Hamas". That is clearly genocide. This crowd is clearly bias and that gets to her nerve. Poor girl. That man would never go and get into argument with knowledgeable people about Palestine history, he bullies students, just like the group he loves. Coward.
As a Mexican American also, we must take into consideration the possible fact that Palestinian people are being forced to into supporting hamas and are truly victims of this war. We do not know if they live in fear of being hurt or killed by hamas. Perhaps they’re in the same boat as North Koreans with kim jong un.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Hamas are like Republicans in USA. They are winning by election. If I were in a land where my grandparents were kicked out and put in a walled area fully controlled and blocked by some foreigners who came out of nowhere and act like my master and treat me like a filthy dog, I'd choose a party that promise me my land back from those people too. But like any other party in any other nation, they can't be all happy with how KHamas is doing things in order to achieve their purpose. All the more reason Palestinians should be given their own sovereignty. Israel should leave them alone. This "wrath of retaliation" should stop. Pretty sure babies and kids weren't alive when they were elected, how people really think these babies and kids part of Hamas is infuriating.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 wait,but they want to find their voice in the U.S.A??? Let's not defend people who all of a sudden get a backbone to bark at our government but not to their own.
Israel stole the land not Palestinians
What a skewed version of history and reality - I'm a Christian who stands firmly with the Jewish people against these cowards. 🇮🇱
*Same!* 🇮🇱✡
Same here!✝️🇮🇱
You stand with the Zionists. Israel is not all of Judaism
I'm an Atheist and same
Israel is the coward.
One of the quickest ways to make yourself look stupid is to talk about something you know nothing about.
Which, for far too many students these days, is pretty much everything
She got owned. There are no Palestinians they back hamas theyre all tribes if they didnt have Isreal as a common enemy they attack each other
Yea they literally watch the Internet for 10 hours and decide to go do something about the injustice
Exactly our entire issue on all subjects today. Educating isn’t what it was 50 years ago. It’s the major issue in our society
Your right and the way things are today that’s majority of the population on this planet.
Clearly, the University of Oxford is not the place to learn European history.
*College in general
Nor any history.
But your academics thrive on Greek history the most.
In law -
A queens council once said
,at the bar chambers we have a saying ,it takes a 100 Englishman to fool 1 Greek
Is why the utmost importance we study Greek history, philosophy psychology to enable to determine the correct ruling of judgement.
@@user-pg2yp9wm6c Yeah, kinda weird to base a society around a group of people who touch little boys.
@@LeoS300 75 years? I'm pretty sure The U.S. of A is more than 75 years old. The Greeks were pedos. The catholic church is full of pedos. Hollywood has always been full of pedos.
It's sad that some people are so easily brainwashed.
She doesn't know history and yet still thinks she's right.
She's young and inexperienced to try and debate Ben. He should be debating or talking to the Grayzone like Max Blumenthal and Aaron mate on this subject. He will quickly get a lesson handed to him from the guys at Grayzone
He has to invastigate the game of war
She's right
She's a leftist, feeling s are more important than facts to them.
I bet you learned your history just from this youtube video.
It's clear to me that many of these famous universities lost their true value and worth.
EXACTLY,, fame built on sand
To be fair that groan that followed her statement means most people there knew what she said was stupid.
@@JayV949 Not really though, college kids LOVE to harp on about how evil Britain/the West is.
Is that an American college student dressed up like a middle eastern woman?
@@user-wb6wn3ft5z This isn't America. Read yhe title.
I'm an ex British soldier and trust me we did. That's war. War is ugly.
As a german whose grandmother was bombed out in Frankfurt and had to flee: Thank you for doing so. With these bombing you cleared our brainwashed heads. I know whom you were fighting and I am doing my very best to fight every Neonazi I'm confronted with.
I met a woman, born in the village near the KZ Auschwitz. She said she saw Mengele, she said she heard the kids cry for their moms and the moms for their kids and did not bother because she was brainwashed. When she had to flee to central germany, she came through burning Warshaw with her baby on her arms. She said that during this trail, she started to think. When after war she met her husband, she scolded him: "What have you done to the Russians that they became so hateful?! Don't tell me you did not rape women and burn their houses?!" Well this marriage did not last long. But this woman fought against any Nazi-ideology and any denial or even lack of knowledge, even in the geriatric home. Every nurse who ever had a night shift there, knew her story, and that she still hears the cries of the mothers and children at Auschwitz trainstation.
In another geriatric home, they celebrated the end of war as the end of the Nazi Regime.
I know, you are traumatized as well, as nobody can lighten such a fire in a city without being traumatized.
Thank you for taking this upon you.
@@himmel-erdeundzuruck5682 don't thank me I wasn't born until 1989. I can't take any credit. But I appreciate it on behalf of my great grandfather. 👍
He shit talking...he mixed pears with apples
@@gerhardfink6737 no he isn't. War against an enemy that wants to exterminate you, especially one that embeds itself in civilian populations, is always like that. I'm not saying it should be like that but the alternative is a never ending war where even more people would die long term.
However I'm willing to listen to why you believe the current conflict is different, and discuss it like civilised gentlemen.
@@danielcharnock8975
Israel is the occupier of Palestinian's land. They want the land back.
Younger generations are too weak, can't wrap their heads around war. Everybody wants to play, but no one wants to lose.
Please don't attack an entire generation over some uneducated imbeciles. As a young (22 year old Gen Z) attending Oxford University, I 100% support Israel.
Yes! I have a cousin who talks about why babies are being killed. Well it's very sad and shouldn't happen
But unfortunately that's what happens in a war..clearly some people have no idea of thr meaning of a war.
Palestinians picked the side they wanted. Israel defended themselves 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
No the zionist were not defending themselves. Their objective was to create a country on land already occupied by a larger non Jewish majority. Who did not fancy being driven out by outsiders.
Zionists massacred and ethnically cleansed Palestinians.
So Atheist zionist from European countries can form a majority Jewish country. Just like Hamas Terrorists the zionist jews also had many Terrorist groups like the Irgun, Lehi Hagannah, attacking and even bombing British positions and killing Palestinians during Mandate palestine period because they wanted to create a state for themselves.
When the Zionists were weak and powerless it was okay according to Fascistic zionist to engage on terrorism but now the Palestinians are the weaker group and they engaging in terrorism is Super Evil right.
Zionism is a super ethno nationalist Fascist racist apartheid state that prioritises jews over the native non jews.
In Dominican Republic a politician said multiple times to us : "the country that does not know it's own history is condemned to repeat it" J.Bosch
As a Dominican fax
That was repeated in my history classes and I’m American. Though I’d dropped out at the turn of the century (2000)
It’s a quote from a philosopher from Spain named George Santayana made in 1905.
You could say that about Americans concerning the lack of transparency about the current American government.
Here in the USA we've been lied to about our history and only today do I see people starting to realize the Illuminati has funded every war since the first French Revolution, aka the bankers, Rothchild's, the inbreed psychopathy family destroy our world.
"Britain wasn't bombing civilians."
Arthur Harris: "I BEG your pardon?"
BOMBER Harris. Be correct mate😂😂
"They sowed to the wind, they'll reap the whirlwind."
@@JJfromPhilly67 Great words which equally apply to what is currently happening in Gaza.
@@catwoman7462 That more or less applies to Israel, occupying a country for over 70 years, THEN the world being shook when they resist.
@@earthworm_sallyearthworm_s3013 They haven't been occupying a country.
Nobody seems to bat an eyelid that northern Cyprus has been occupied by Turkey for 50 years since they invasion of 1974. In fact people holiday there and have even bought stolen homes to live in or to use as holiday homes.
It really terrifies me that these people don't know basic history.
The IDF is defending themselves from Palestine and also Palestine is Hamas okay? There is no difference they’re teamed up
KEBALIK ‼️ SELAMA 1948-2023 BAHKAN SEBELUMNYA 😎😎😎
Exactly 🙂👍
The fact that Oxford University no longer teaches History, English, or Logic
Yeah I feel that she should have mentioned the Russian casualties in comparison to Germans and Chinese Casualties in comparison to Japanese,that would have shut Ben logic there and then.
@@ZamanKhan-gw8bq I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. Ben was making a specific analogy and asking the student to take a moral stance on that specific, analogous situation. Reasoned, courteous, logical debate would require (1) a response to his direct question and/or a counterargument containing historical facts and ethical principles attempting to show the analogy was flawed; or (2) a concession that Ben had made a good point. Possibly followed by some other type of argument or claim, hopefully with more evidentiary basis and historical context than the first one. Pointing out the differences in casualties between Russian vs. German or Chinese vs. Japanese casualties wouldn't do any of those things.
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben took Gemran and Brits casualties example and said that since Germans were killed more in comparison that does not mean Germans were right but on the contrary Chinese casualties were more in comparison to Japanese and Chinese were right and being oppressed by Imperial Japanese forces another example was Russians had more casualties as compared to Germans and Russians were right as gwrmams invaded their land. Let's go further jewsih partisan faced more casualties against Nazis and they were right since they were fighting the oppressor. Ben just took one example of world war out of context and tried to fit it in Palestinian conflict where as the above examples also fit in the same scenario.
90 percent foreign students maybe..
@@Rachel-en5nt Ben's whole argument isn't even analogous to this situation. Britain was killing enemy combatants while Israel is killing civilians . We're not talking about a small disparity here. Less than 20 combatants killed and over 8 thousands innocent civilians murdered. Anyone standing up for that is sick . If anything America should mind their own business and stay out of this conflict. If America wasn't sending billions of dollars, weapons and training then the Israeli government would never be acting this way. Lebanon Iran and Yemen would be at the front door in two seconds and Israel would be deserving of the visit.
"You should talk to the people in Dresden, but you can't...because they're dead." 😮
Thats basically paraphrasing Starship Troopers i think.
well i mean it was nearly 80 years ago - there are quite few survivors anyway
A serious way to approach a debate, of course
Ben shapiro only dare to debate with student..
This is sick , the fact that this man is justifying the death of innocent Palestinians as that of Nazis , Sick and inhumane and any person agreeing with him is not a human being 😒
History needs to be Taught for 12 years in school
Ben is really brilliant......
She had selective history lessons 😅
Just like finances are in Israel
What is the point of teaching and history? That means teaching them facts, and these theirs. They don't want to know facts. They just want to know their narrative. Because they're always right even when they're always wrong.
So Oxford just lost a big chunk of reputation because she doesnt know history? Or because she knows a history written by the victor? This university is supposed to be one of the best in the world. . .
I will never understand the confidence with which ignorant people engage in debates.
It's easy, brain washing does JUST that!
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.
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Biblical wisdom, "a fool walks certain in all his folly, the wise however, measure each step".
happens a lot these days but to debate someone like, well, literally ANYONE from the daily wire, you better bring your AAA Game! You better have the facts! Their team is untouchable, ive never seen ANY of them lose a single argument. not even close. They btfo lefties like taking candy from a baby.
Stupid people typically find someone even more stupid to debate them
She is Exhibiting her ignorance for the whole world to see.
FREE URANUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Britain wasn’t bombing civilians” That’s just depressing coming from an Oxford student
These people are idiots. They are NOT part of a better or even brighter future. They are part of what will be a very very dark future if they continue toget their way.
It's not like the factories were built around civilian populations before the war so civilians could go to work. Not at all.
This girl is braindead.
Braves never use civilian as shield
@@utpalchoudhury330they're not using them they got involved, in war Soldier is not using civilian as shield but they got involved in battle because of war
It’s insanely ill informed. Wow.
Britain wasn't bombing civilians, eh? She needs to get her parents a refund on her education...😅😂🤣
Chances are her parents are not paying for her indoctrination, I mean education.
Well yeah, when the curriculum just goes over how to hate Jewish people, the entirety of Israel… you’re gonna miss a few historical points
1234 occupation no more 5678 israel is a terrorist state from the river to the sea Palestine will be free🇵🇸🇵🇸❤️❤️ free palestine 🇵🇸
That was just bad. I’m sure her husband back handed her later
She went to a school in Boston and my guess is Wellesley
Free Palestine and Gaza
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They were free before they decided to attack Israel
Same all the years in the 10,000 years were no citizens ever been hurt in a war or just pick one
Is that an Oxford student? If so she should ask for a refund.
I didn't know one could major in Feminist Basket Weaving at Oxford.
ahaha refund bigtime
Why punish the school? She was a diversity enrollee.
If this discussion happened at any fucking Middle School anywhere in any country they should fire all of the teachers that presented the student but this is at University what the hell? This person's parent needs to find out what in the hell have they been paying so much money for this person to learn
It's an overpriced daycare center at this point.
It's frightening how many people do NOT know the history of the last hundred years. Looks like we're destined to repeat it.
So you're for using children for war and you're fine with the slaughter of innocent bc that's what the Palestinians want
Maybe look into their history and facts and then come back to see If you stand by what you're saying
I’m a highschool student and I pay very close attention to history class. I quite enjoy it. I just wish others would take advantage of education it’s very sad.
@@FNBRVolts well the education system is screwed up due to the lgbtq wanting to teach children like you their beliefs and bs information about their gay lives tbh
@@FNBRVolts but some subjects like anatomy and biology should stay in schools
Palestinians declared war on Israel in October 2023 and that's it. Israel is simply continuing what Palestinians started. Why no one is actually asking Palestinians to stop this? Why no one is asking them to stop fighting this lost battle?
ANDA BERKOMEDI, SEBELUM 2023 ISRAEL MELAKUKAN PERANG SEMBUNYI DGN PALESTINA N WILAYAHNYA, TAHUN BESOK BISA MESIR, IRAK, YORDANIA, TURKI, SELURUH ARAB N DUNIA, DUNIA ZIONIS CS N ELIT GLOBAL GAK AKAN MERASA KENYANG N AMAN DGN HASIL RAMPOKAN NYA 😎😎😎🤫🤫🤫
@@michaiahelmehdi9911 Before 2023? Do you mean in 1948 when Israel was created and Palestinians and all the neighbouring countries declared war on Israel? Just 24 hours after the creation of the Israeli state.
I home schooled my daughter.she thought I was lieing about what I showed her happened in the world.
Teaching my 8 year old about WWI right now, just covered the Turkish genocide of the Armenians. My daughter will not be blind to both the beauty and cruelty of this world, so she can hopefully make informed decisions in her future, learning the harsh lessons of the past.
They say ignorance is bliss but it’s extremely dangerous. If we don’t know our history, we are bound to repeat it.
Shapiro can stand there and spit all of his glib comebacks all he wants but the fact remains people are not buying the Israeli government's bullshit like they used to.
"doomed" to repeat it
Unfortunately these people don't seem interested in truth, they have an agenda and they will choose to believe anything so long as it backs that agenda.....inspired by the evil one.
Yes. Shapiro put his ignorance on full display.
BRITAIN DID NOT OCCUPY GERMANY.
Imagine guys if the brits killed asians en masse in their past colonies.
Or the whites massacring blacks in apartheid africa.
Ben Shapiro gives a sly argument in support of well trained IDF soldiers with modern weapons cowardly killing young children en masse.
Please awaken your human conscience
"Britain didn’t bomb civillians"
It hits so hard how awfully wrong that is
Its easy to assume that, since it would now be contrary to the Geneva Convention.
I do want to add this: World War Two was what what is known as a “Total War” meaning every citizen of the enemy nation is part of the war effort. All countries involved killed civilians.
that student was just doing what so called "TAQQIYAH" by using poor data that lead to misinformations
well yeah, originally the german air force was attacking tactical targets (air fields, fuel storage, factories, etc)
And then the british sent a single bomber to hit a purely civilian target. Immediately afterwards, german air forces started targeting civilians. USA firebombed (using napalm) wooden cities in japan, killing more people with fire than both the atom bombs combined. the soviets we dont even need to talk about, the imperial japanese forces had things like Nankiang.
Essentially, there were no "good guys" in ww2, it was "less evil"
So does that matter?
She is still right and proved ben Shapiro wrong,
Ben Shapiro asked that were Britain wrong, now as Britain Bombed civilians i have the authority to say yup Britain were wrong.
What a coward debating college students but repeatedly refusing to talk to people he knows he cant beat
She was 100% correct until Ben's deflection made her look foolish.
My eyebrows shot to the roof when she said the Brits weren't bombing civilians
Well clearly she meant to say it wasn't one sided whereby British were bombing innocent German civilians with high tech and Germany were pretty much defenceless
@@EmMa-ck5wqthe dead civilians in the Dresden bombings would beg to differ.
@@thecovfefe340 IF*** she was hypothetically speaking jeez why does everything needs to be explained like a child to people like you. The situation with Gaza And Israel is unequal on every level.
The fact that the idiot shapiro started comparing it to German and Britain is absurd itself. In the world war neither sides were actually ethnically cleansing, or turning off water supply electricity or bombing children hospitals and ambulances on purpose like cowards in Israel are doing
@@EmMa-ck5wq you used hypothetically incorrectly, I would have too when I was a child. I don't think you're at an age to be discussing this after that comment, so I won't be responding any further.
HOW can a British woman NOT KNOW her country's RECENT history?!!! I now believe that public education in other countries must be just as bad as it is in the US.
Because she isn't British?
Shes' Palestinian, dude. Literally the only reason she's pro Palestine in this debate.
Coz she ain't British
She belongs to the "Pieceful" community!
Nationalism is an alien concept to the Peacefuls. Their loyalty will always be to the umma or Muslim community.
These people are why I have to emphasize the “moderate” in “moderate Democrat”
Go protest in Gaza...not in the USA
Yes, you go and support Israel in Israel
This is in England 💀
As an Englishman, i say we should close down these universities. The ignorance of these students is astounding. The universities are clearly not doing their job
Ah, that assumes that what they are currently and have been doing isn't EXACTLY what they have become designed for.
Maybe 100 years ago the colleges were for education, now it is solely for indoctrination and debt enslavement.
I’m embarrassed for her….. I bet she spent £100k on that piss poor education just to get schooled by a Yank😂😂😂😂 its depressing me how stupid young ppl are
I’ve been to Dresden, and it’s a depressing site to see
@@btchplz5352 you wanna visit Coventry love
Soooo true
As a German i say this is embarrassing
Am English. I agree she is embarrassing and she not british
Why because the Jews are killing more people than the Germans ever did?
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@@user-tp1ob3uv4pFree them from Hamas and Islam. Only our God Jesus saves.
@@michaelhughes4562Must she be British to talk about Britain?
she needs to open up a textbook
She dont know what she s talking about
These people don’t know wtf they are talking about.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
True
@@Dogma210 The thought of me being attested for my deeds where all stand equal before god and in the hour and i will be questioned about my deeds enabled me to say that.
@Dogma210 you KNOW his phone told him to say that. That is all these people do...regurgitate whichever catch phrases their mainstream media and social media overlords tell them to repeat
@Gioatama cool story bro. Is your god going to question your moral support to the Palestinians who just butchered 1500 people, including hundreds and hundreds of women, children, and infant babies, and kidnapped a couple hundred more on 7 October? Would love to see you explain that one to your sky daddy
This will be remembered as the Age of Stupidity.
If we survive.
😂😂😂😂 good one.
Ben is not stupid he is ideological biased and immoral in this topic.
And we have unimaginable levels of intelligence in the palm of our hands, yet learn only what feeds our desires
@@jorge-7121 She*
@@KelvinSG she is not stupid , she is correct in this topic which shows she is intelligent, she is not educated or prepared enough to articulate her position.
They said Dresden became as hot as the sun
SHE'S REPEATING THE LIE SHE HEARD
She should demand a refund from Oxford.
Ummm no. That's tax money. She can go to a different school to learn a trade, or the funds go to a different student at a different school.
To be fair, whoever tries to educate that, is going to fail..😂
Good one
She doesn’t need to know history to become an immigration lawyer and be able to help get more and more of them over here
😝🎯😝
People who don’t understand war shouldn’t have an opinion on it
Good Luck with that 🙄
War? Yeah "war" with a country which don't even have an army
@@mir3979they definitely have an army and they showed on 7th of October that they are not that weak as you think
Exactly, 45% of all casualties being children and the most common age killed being 5 is just apart of war! We should be able to use the same moral compass as countries did in a day and age that had the likes of Hitler or Leopold II
@@Fifa-un9cq then why are they not fighting that army? Instead of fighting that army they are just bombing innocent civilians and hospitals isn't that true?
Does she understand that the losing side in a war needs to surrender to stop the war, particularly when they started it?
she is a disgrace to her family and they should punish her according to the Quran
These protesters have NO IDEA what they're even talking about
And you do?
says the one who watches news owned by jews
If you do then please explain to us!
They really don't. They are completely ruled by emotion. They are not using their brains!!!
Yea it's like debating toddlers. They need protesters that are prepared with historical facts and political knowledge to debate. Ben Shapiro has training in debates. That's it. Ben loves destroying unprepared cry babies.
These people don't know anything outside of their own bubble.
Ignorance
False information indoctrination thanks to our "educational system".
I don't think you should be talking, american clearly you know 0 history😂😂
Go back about let’s say 40 - 70 years and review the history
These people - muslims for first.
If you get into a fight with Mike Tyson unprepared. And then you lose, don't cry
Shouldn’t the argument be about peace
Scariest part of this is the fact that she is in college and has no idea what she is protesting.
Not just college - she’s a student at Oxford University
Geneva Convention of 1949 was why it is now illegal and before was just immoral.
@@franksanz1044not anymore 😂
Why?
@@tgjurassic9229what did I miss?
As a german, i give Mr Shapiro a plus plus for this reminder. There were civilians bombed in germany. Hitler was a bastard, but not all germans were Nazis and soldiers. And the britains were right to fight back.
British were right to target civilians to defeat Nazis?? 🤔
As a German who was born and raised in the United States, I absolutely praise Shapiro for his knowledge, and people like you who know basic facts that German soldiers were not Nazis. My great grandfather was a sergeant in the Luftwaffe, his brother was in the Wehrmact, and another sibling also served in the Wehrmact, but later served the Soviet Union (Willy Reidel).
@@andreassimas1731if Ben Shapiro rlly was that knowledgeable he'd go argue with people like Mohammed Hijab, not some random teenagers.
right to fight back doesn't mean it's ok to bomb civilians. two wrongs don't make a right. both Britain and Israel were wrong.
What’s worse for her argument is that she doesn’t realize Britain didn’t tell the Germans where they were gonna attack a day to a couple of weeks in advance.
College tuition hard at work here.
Aint no way bro said that Palestine is the villain
It's like saying the bully is the innocent one cause the beaten up kis has more bruises 💀
An embarrassing exposure of her "education."
What. Your lucky to even be to advertise your ignorance my friend!
@@Graphenorthats not what being argued here.. dresden was bombed in 2 days and killed 30k people. he tries to disprove her uniqueness of Israel as "the most violent ever" narrative, gaza is literally the center of hamas, dresden isnt.. the casualties are the same currently (with dresden respectively having less population around 600k and gaza 2.2m) and 5 months vs 2 days.
@@Graphenor BECAUSE DRESDEN IS AN ACTUAL Carpet bombing that killed almost 30k people in 2 days, the war in gaza from 5 months ago killed 30k currently and 8-12k are hamas (hamas admitted to 6k 3 months ago to reuters and Israel claims 12-14k) its not my fault you have 0 brains and cant differentiate these things.
@@Graphenor Are you lacking any understanding of argument capabilities? ben makes this point as a comeback to "britian didnt bomb civilians" because this neo-terrorist tries to make Israel seem like the only country ever to have bombed and killed many civilians in war, which dresden is a perfect response to that aswell as tokyo, nagasaki, hiroshima, cambodia..etc. My comment about the duration, because she tries to claim Israel is genociding gaza.. is that dresden took place in 2 days, and this current war is ongoing for 5 months.. which also disproves her entire perspective..I dont think you understand what is being argued here
Obviously a new Muslim convert , so cool ,so Chic, and clearly brain washed. No matter how many degrees you have you can still be NAIVE
Bens look when she says "Britain wasn't bombing civilians."
I was about to say the same thing
Yes, that's right, England didn't directly carry out the bombing, but only ordered its minions & maybe one of them was the US & Israel.😁😁
as in the current case, England must be responsible for Rohingya immigrants, it is England who placed them in Yanmar.
Don't let cases like Jewish/Israeli immigrants happen again. It was all the work of the British who mobilized & in the end Israel colonized Palestine.
Everything the British did was at the root of potential conflict after centuries, and this was more than just the bombs the British dropped.
@DoD1009 ah yes, the "blame the imperialists" because they could see far into the future and understood everything so perfectly. Self-accountability us irrelevant when long-gone empires can be blamed. Don't get mad at me though, it was the Romans that set me up for this comment
@@DoD1009 I wish the Western nations had never encountered the Middle East or Africa. I also wish I could see if they had all our technology. It would be very interesting to see what they had achieved. Of course there would be no Palestine because the Romans would never have been there.
Bro even Ben was flabbergasted by that take 💀
When you don’t know history you’ll be doomed to look stupid.
As a german i can say that we did in fact die.
Well then who's commenting here bro 💀💀💀
@@williampearl6793
his ghost which haunts You!!!
@@AquitaineKing”same” side lol
@@williampearl6793
😂🤣🤣
You beat me to it!
Thinking exactly the same thing.
😂🤣
Were Hamas coming into the country of Israel first? And decapitating children and babies ? Were they torturing the parents and elderly in their homes? And are you on the side of the terrorists ?Do you want all of the people of Israel killed? And not to defend their people.. They have been feeding your people for years and this is how you treat them.? You can't hav
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
He is so brilliant in so many aspects and it just seems like his mind is clouded and brainwashed when this topic is ever brought up😢
@@aricanaan1266You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Sadly that’s what conservatives like Ben thrive on.
@@cartreezy1631 I voted for Democrat but I f~~king love Ben. He's on point.
While it’s unfortunate, the left doesn’t teach history anymore. The left does not want you to be informed. The left just wants you to fall in line and support whatever position they take. I guess that’s why colleges are universities are more indoctrination than education. This woman is a good example of how ignorant and passionate a person can be on an issue. She does not know what’s she is talking about, she has no interest in finding out, and she is willing to die for it. 🤪🤪🤪
She said Britain wasn’t bombing civilians? Wait what ? She would stoop that low ? That is disturbing and severe lack of history
It's clearly unjust how disrespectful and uninformed how this younger generation really is
ben’s face when she said britain wasn’t bombing civilians 😂
Israel is not bombing civilians right now?
You should see Ben’s face every time he denies debating with Muhammad hijab bc he knows he can only win against college students😂
@@MrBLaCktech they may be. But that’s a well known terrorist tactic used by daesh/ISIS, Taliban, and others. Hide among the civilian population for cover. They don’t care that their actions are putting their own people in danger, so why should the IDF? They have barracks in hospitals and schools, in civilian housing. Israel told the Palestinians what was going to happen, and told them to leave and go south, and their own people called them traitors and fired rockets at them near the Egyptian border. The ones who chose to stay made an error in judgement. At this point, who’s to know who’s a civilian and whose a terrorist?
@@MrBLaCktechSure they are. And Israel is getting missiles and had "troops" go into Israel and shoot and RPG civilians. Tit for tat. Gotta love religion
@@huda2633I'm not a fan of ben, but I've never seen an Arab or Muslim debate that wasn't based on their own religious nonsense. so I highly doubt anyone even cares about the guy you're talking about 😂
How can an Oxford student not know basic English history.
Affirmative camel action
Cause they aren't teaching history any more in university. They are teaching garbage like lesbian dance theory, gender studies, DEI and CRT crap, liberal studies, trans ideology, so on. NOT useful information.
It's also why these liberals get out of Uni and can't find a job, cause their degrees are literally worthless and they know literally nothing about the real world.
k-12 public school isn't any better.
She's a diversity hire, Oxford lost a lot of the prestige it once held. Not to say it is a bad college now but they are infested with the same woke BS that is plaguing the other colleges.
because school is the garbage
Cause they don't teach history anymore. Your educational system was taken over by liberals a long time ago
You came from a monkey. ..remember
Chaff and deflect. Changes subject to move away from the truth
She sure as hell doesn't know history
It should be a criminal offense for schools to fail to teach students the harsh realities of life.
What do you know?Did Israel not bomb hospitals?did they not kill 10k civilians in the last 3 weeks?4k of them being childen?Have they not been forcing palestines to live in a apartheid state for 75 years?Did they not cut off water,food and electricity,which is collective punishment and a war crime?
No it shouldn't. It should be a criminal offense for PARENTS to fail in teaching their children the harsh realities of life. Stop expecting someone else to raise your kids for you!
Although she didn't say a single correct thing, she does have a nice vocabulary and British accent. Plus she realized Everyone knew she was clueless and pivoted quickly
No. That's not the job of the educational system to teach the "harsh realities of life". That's the parents' job.
There's a reason history is taught in our schools. Parents pay taxes so there will be schools to teach history so there won't be idiots like this woman.
It always amazes me that these people completely believe the terrorists statements and refute anything that contradicts those statements.
Im sorry to tell you, but you have been completely brainwashed by the western media and i dont think theres a fix for it anymore
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas," Netanyahu told his Likud party's Knesset members in March 2019. "This is part of our strategy"
Its because they are under witchcraft
What makes a group a terrorist group. Because America has terrorised many countries.
Well the government can literally propagandize their own people. So you have probably been brainwashed. It's been a thing since 1978. Usa can lie to Americans to further help their own economy
He can’t simply bring up Germany and Britain since the dynamics between those weren’t, aren’t and won’t be the same as they are now between Israel and Palestine. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is fueled by decades of conflict and the ongoing occupation of Palestine, while World War II was a global conflict with many different political and economic interests at stake. Additionally, the power imbalance between Israel and Palestine is not comparable to the power imbalance between the British and German militaries during World War II. Comparing it to WWII would only be appropriate in the context of Jews VS Nazis (not Germany VS Britain).
Now thats the type of person that knows their history that why those brain less creatures in the comment section did say anything to you cause they know for a fact that whatever they say will be used against them for sure
“This isn’t a conflict it’s one sided” tells me all I need to hear
The audience’s reaction to her ignorance said it all!
Well is Islam a womans word is worth 1/2 of a man.
It was a relief that the audience knew better
London's pro-palestine protests outmatches the pro-zionism protests. That says a lot too.
Shes wrong but the comparisons are ridiculous to say the least
She's definitely a Cooyon.
"Britain wasn't bombing..." I'M SICK OF IGNORANT, STUPID PEOPLE ACTING LIKE THEY ARE VIRTUOUS.
But at the same time world war 2 was different then what’s happening over in Palestine. Israel bombed 4 I think now correct me if I’m wrong hospitals in Palestine just to kill 1 Hamas leader. If you think about it they killed multiple children and also she is saying the Israel did it for no important reason. Palestine is just fighting back for what was originally there’s. Tell me your opinion
@@bobbuilder2240 I'm going to address one simple item you mentioned first. Israel did not bomb 4 hospitals. Specifically, I'll address the big lie that Israel bombed a hospital and 500 people were killed. The media, BBC and other jumped all over that to condem Israel right away. Photos. Everything. Except they had to walk back all of that when multiple investigations proved the hospital was not only not bombed by Israel, 500 people weren't killed.A rocket misfired and hit the hospital parking lot. It was a Hamas rocket that was supposed to hit Israelis nowhere near the area. Why would something like this happen? WellHamas made a lot of rickets icing material like pipes stolen from the Palestinian water system. (Israel gets blamed for the water problem, too.) One thing to keep in mind throughout all of this as it goes on. All Wars have a tier of propaganda. This propaganda war will be a lot different because of social media, mainstream media, and planning. The Oct 7th attack took 2 years to plan. Make no mistake, Hamas is accomplished at propaganda and they planned ahead for that. I'm seeing numerous sites on X that I'm fairly sure are supported by either Hamas, CAIR or simply radical supporters & people who hate Jews and Israel. But one look at London, New York City and universities to know this isn't all about Zionism or Israel. They HATE Jews. One particular post I saw today was some who posted a photo of a father with one leg holding up his son with no legs. The accusation was Israelis did this. In fact (and it took me 2 minutes to figure out) the photo is of a Syrian man and his son. The photo was taken in Italy a couple years ago. They are Syrian, not Palestinians. The father list his leg in the Syrian Civil War, nothing war. War did devastate the family but this was not about Jews or Israel. The son was born with no legs. His mother was apparently injured during the war or was ill and given medicine that caused the birth defect. (Like the so-called Thalidomide babies whose mothers took the drug for morning sickness and were born with missing and deformed limbs before it was recalled) In the meantime, there are hundreds of thousands of people happy to repost these lies and propaganda. Especially stupid college students who should cut them off and make them get a real job. (I digress) THAT, young man is the SHORT answer to part of your post. Israel didn't bomb 4 hospitals. As to the first part, this is very much like World War II, but on steroids & the world has gone insane. Hitler wanted to exterminate everyone but people he considered Aryans. Not just Jews (though he exterminated 6 million ), but also the disabled, Blacks, the mentally ill, children with Downs Syndrome.... you get it. 10 million people were exterminated. Hamas and many Palestinians are calling not for just the end of Israel,but again, the extermination of the Jews. Oh yeah... gays, lesbians, etc will not be given a pass. Infidels (read Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, Mormons, atheists and the like all fall under that category. There was already an almost horrible success at committing a Fatwa against Salman Rushdie, a British-American citizen on American soil. They are calling for Jihad on not just Jews but Infidels across the world. WWII really started when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931. Pappy Boyington and the Flying Tigers went to fight with the Chinese before the rest of the world woke up. This was also a clash of race and cultures. All Asains do not see all Asains as the same. Take a minute to educate yourself on the Rape of Nanjing (or Massacre of Nanjing) in 1937. It was barbaric, it was ruthless. So not like WWII? Different? No. It's WWII on steroids. And to stand aside and be quiet like people were before Kristallnacht, rounding up the Jews in ghettos, the camps will be disastrous on a worldwide level. (My old eyes need rest and a bigger screen. I'll have to answer the rest later. Be well.) By the way, I'm an athiest and I stand firmly with Israel 🇮🇱 and the Jewish people. When my father was in the army at the end of WWII, he was one of many doctors sent to help at liberated concentration camps. As for Palestinians being there first? Uh no
Hamas should stop commiting war crimes by using civilians as human shields.
You can thank social media for this
It’s all for attention
How stupid do you have to be to debate Ben?
Aside from her misinformed opinion of WW2, her original point still stands
This university is embarrassing itself by putting up these students to speak.
Everyone has an opinion the god 🙏 she is not an Yankee because she will not be allowed to speak littarly 100 year's ago in Britain.Freedom of speech has definitely came a long way.
Ben is embarrassing himself hanging about college picking on kids. He loves Israel so much why is he not over fighting instead of trying to manipulate others to do so
These so-called smart people should read historical articles having to do with wars! Stop hiring stupid professors who only teach made-up racist issues!
Why cause people are not brainwashed by who controls the narrative.Just cause ben says hamas everytime people bring up citizens shows how disengenous he is.I mean look at iraq war ect and how america funded alot of them.Comparing one just to excuse the idf actions is disgusting.
@@Link2TQwhat a 30 yr old student?? Nice gaslight thou
She is how most young people think today, no clue.
I’m a 21 year old Canadian man (west coast BC) and I am both proud of myself and disappointed of my generation that I do not think like most of my fellows within my age group. Probably.. -I can't really attest from my own personal experience to generally how moral and rational, or ignorant and delusional their thinking & ideology is, because since I moved cities last year, every single one of my friends that I hang out with in person now are older than me. At least 25, but most are early to mid 30’s and some in their 40’s, and that’s all because of the community that I surround myself with now.
My current friends didn’t shape my ideology, I realized the BS of the progressive left as soon as I became interested in understanding politics, which started from my distrust and frustration with Trudeau, so I’m consistently puzzled why other young people my age strayed way off into left field (pun intended) with the “regressive” ideology. My best guess is social conformity, kids my age are parrots, and I find they struggle to put themselves in the shoes of the other side, especially when they’re emotionally worked up. They are often ignorant and they don’t look for impartial answers, they don’t know how to, and where to look for these answers, nor do they ask questions in attempt to understand the facts and the history of concepts that they have so many opinions about. They can’t admit to themselves or others when their feelings or opinions are effectively irrational but not affectively irrational, and don’t know that is normal and okay. Unable to separate emotional thought from rational thought.
They are seemingly unable to try and separate their feelings from the reality that benefits our society as a whole and how to weigh the personal cost that their uninformed political outrage detriments their own mental, emotional, social, and spiritual wellbeing. Seems that many of them struggle to prioritize and regulate how much attention they give to that political emotion. And understandably so, because we’re still kids, we’re freshman in adulthood, many are growing up quickly and as a result are being radicalized at a young age where our emotional, moral, and rational regulation is underdeveloped. So just like how many people everyday are finally waking up to this madness, I hope my generation will follow. There will always be radical crazies, and they’re the loud minority, but I hope my generation will grow up and recover from their social homogeneity contagion and form their own opinions without fear of being canceled by their university peers.
Thought I’d just share from my view as a young person and hopefully I could bring hope to at least 1 person, that there are still young people that believe in merit and the principles that make American society the best and most prosperous in the history of the world. I love Canada, I love the United States, I love freedom, and I love truth, even if it hurts sometimes. If you read allat thank you for listening to/reading my spiel, I hope my insight was helpful or interesting.
@@ben9610 please add some periods. I had a stroke reading that.
Nah, she's just brainwashed and biased af.
Bah, what a time we live in, where a geno cide is justified because "in a war almost 100 years ago civilians have been bombed so we repeat it". Shame on this grown up man who should be leading the new generations, not be on the devils side. What a world, what a world...
😂😂😂😂😂@@Nah-tq5xe
I allways stand with Israel 🩵🇮🇱🩵🇮🇱🩵🇮🇱✊✊✊✊✊
Israel - I support you.
The minute she said Britain wasn’t bombing civilians… her argument was dead. 💀
It wasn’t even tactically sound. It was all about revenge. Easy to Monday morning quarter back now. But ask your average English person in 1945! “Fuck them krauts” I’d imagine.
Way before that.
Who, in 100 a.d., owned Judea ?
Italy has the best claim of everyone.
@@skaetur1 Maybe Persia (Iran) would have a better claim than Italy.
@@Diccie Well they were the cause of 55 million dead.
@@skaetur1 It was the Kingdom of Israel in the north before that.
I don't understand how full grown adults are so ignorant about the facts of history.
because they are brainwashed by religious preachings and brain-dead preachers.
BUT is she really grown up? Possibly in her early 20's leading her debate purely off emotions and Ben is a Harvard lawyer graduate who loves to destroy crybabies. He has training in debates and casting doubt in any argument thus rendering them incapable of defending themselves. I would have said YES Britain was wrong killing any civilians but one would hope we learned from our past mistakes and is the whole reason why United nations was established in the first place. Ben Shapiro thinks revenge is the solution, kinda like when the Americans justified obliterating the native Americans because they attacked their settlers after they expanded out West into their territory. Sound familiar?
they just cant accept it that their buslim brothers are loosing side.
Because they dont teach real history. All they're told in "History class" is WHITE PEOPLE BAD and Marx was a saint and how the Romans werent all white and bullshit like this
Oxford students are not full grown adults lol
“It’s unjust because one side is better at fighting.”
Brits weren’t bombing civilians in ww2, she obviously fell asleep in history class💀
“You should talk to people in Dresden but you can’t cuz they’re dead”💀
🤭
Damn straight that was the real Holocaust, they don't like talking about the holodomer either.
And the people of Dresden didn’t get weeks notice before the bombing. These people have no clue what they are supporting 🤦🏽♂️
This is what happens when you mix ignorance and arrogance.
Well said sir !! Well said👏💪🙏👊👍👌🤟🤌😇
You could say that about both of them.
@@pharmerdavid1432Where is his ignorance displayed?
not to mention there is such a fine line between the two...
@@pharmerdavid1432 Shapiro is ignorant? Do share.
They don't even know why their protesting. They do know they can pull this sh!t in America. They wouldn't dare or be allowed to do this in their own country.
Anyone think this woman looks EVEN REMOTELY PALESTINIAN ?
what the heck.
The level of ignorance of university students is outstanding.
And the Chinese are laughing their embarrassing mockery of a laugh
@@snakeslayer831?
Yes, they excel in ignorance more than any generation before them. And they haven't learnt to keep their mouths shut until they know what they are talking about. At university level! Unbelievable.
You say as you either didn't receive the same level of education as her or you did receive it and are calling yourself ignorant. Pick your choice.
@@nuhakirmani3396
Take an educated guess. You have a 50/50 chance of getting it right.
Here's a hint: Going to university provides no guarantee of a students education.
"Britain wasn't bombing civilians" -A really really smart person.
😂😂😂
pfffft yeah cause the over 200 bombed factories were staffed by soldiers, absolutely, all the housing districts were secretly soldiers, those children were agents, Britain totally never bombed a civilian XD or the US, or France, or any nation for that matter, those dead 3 million dead civilian were secretly soldiers
Germany actually suffered less casualties between the two wars 🤨
This woman needs to learn about HAMAS and what HAMAS is doing to the Palestinians.
what are they doing?
Stole money - that’s why their leaders live in luxury in Qatar.
Stole water pipes placed by the EU aid fund.
Israel uses missiles to protect it’s people. Hamas uses innocent Gazans to protect it’s missiles.
Now let’s compare… ⚖️
I'm sure she knows about what Hamas has done, and justifies it.
Facts
YOU should learn about isnotreal and what isnotreal is doing to Palestinians
its a false equivalent argument.