Ben Shapiro's Verbal Tricks To Win Any Argument
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Arguments can be real tricky at times.
We’ve all had that moment where we have great points and feel like we’re in the right, but once we start conversing and expressing our opinions we either look like a fool or a bully.
How can we effectively win an argument or a debate?
We’re going to breakdown some of Ben Shapiro's debate tactics and techniques so you can win an argument, even if you’re wrong.
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01:11 - Technique #1: Catching Non-Arguments
01:55 - Technique #2: Getting Emotional
02:40 - Technique #3: Pushing For Specifics
04:07 - Technique #4: Ben Knows His Arguments Inside And Out
06:02 - Technique #5: The Use Of Snuck Premises
08:35 - Technique #6: Moving From The Abstract To The Concrete
09:45 - Technique #7: Emphasize The Conditions That You Would Agree With Your Opponent
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Caught my lawyer watching this right before court
Can I just let Ben be my lawyer😂
Why did this make me chuckle
Nothing wrong with brushing up
😂😂😂
Yeah hopefully your lawyer win the trial
I was taught as a small kid. “Raise your voice and you’ve lost the argument “.
You must be quite old then, nowdays you are taught that raising your voice wins them.
@@mojewjewjew4420 I understand where you are coming from, but I think that it's more like "Nowadays it is thought that being offended wins them." People don't use the yelling tactic as much as bringing too much emotion to the table.
@@autumnishere420 That too but i feel its more in the west, from where i am for you "have" to be loud, aggressive and hypocrite works aswell.
Sure you heard how you also cant have a reasonable conversation with parents because DiSrEsPeCt
Tell BLM supporters that.
@@2lynnw or antifa but oh wait they are the same breed
Pushing for specifics is practically flawless. Fudgers will be immediately exposed.
True, but they get real mad haha
100%
Talk fast so the opponent is still trying to figure out what you said so they lose sight of their response…
Shapiro style 100%
You hit the nail on the head. Candice do the same
@Trevor Brannon 🤣🤣🤣
no you lot just are not very bright. He's easy to understand if your values are grounded in logic.
Engage other people who think slower than you do, you will win.
1) Talk fast
Blust GT
That’s where older people like myself have the advantage. Being past 50, we can always tell our opponents to slow down. It drives them nuts, and sometimes short circuits their brain, and gives extra time to think, of responses, counterpoints, etc. His fast talking, is also his weakness.
Blust GT oh yeah yeah
He has said he was a college debater. They learn to speak quickly to make point in 4 min on a huge array of complex topics.
that's a sign his mouth tryna keep up with his machine gun brain
@@muffledgiraffe4303 o lol I thought that it was because he doesn't want to get interrupted by someone and have to change the topic for their needs.
Legend has it he wins arguments against his wife...
Lol
Did you forget that she’s a doctor?
@@coleg5578 So she's good at dissecting his points?
@@Bextie hahaha lmao
Against his Jewish wife, who's a doctor? You must be referring to another wife...
Don’t forget about Bens most important trait slow speech
Articulate in manner. I agree.
I think he talk to fast.
@@azscn8192 I was being sarcastic
Ben's most important trait is he a narcissist.
@@jenniferl1908 narcissistic brain damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex does not allow for the high IQ or self-awareness, or intellectual capacity to sustain a debate. Narcissists can't even fathom a polarized argument because their lack of empathy fails to understand anyone else's perspective except their own. Ben does not gaslight or move goal posts which are the only tactics narcissistic brain damage knows. Narcissists are not loving fathers with a family who support them. Narcissists actually need to cause damage to others and to self to increase their dangerously low serotonin. Don't confuse high IQ with destructive narcissistic brain damage LOL Did you not read a single word about narcissism before projecting this disorder onto a celebrity?
"Buying into an argument that you dont understand". This one statement is brilliant. If I don't understand, the higher road is to shut my mouth and open my ears. Many times there is no need to reply. It is ok when we don't engage. I recall the saying the smartest person in the room may be the one who says little and listens well.
"Feelings don't care about facts."
-Shen Bapiro
I think it's "facts don't care about feelings"
@Harsh Kumar Don't answer that. A rhetorical question.
Is it shen bapiro , or Ben Shapiro ?!
But it's true thoug
Piero Minaya Rojas “You take 100% of the shots you don’t miss”
-Gayne Wretzky
@@cookieeater3000 r/whooosh
"So?"
-Ben Shapiro
You misspelled Ben Shillpiro
Translation: "I can't answer your question honestly because I have no leg to stand on, so I'll just dismiss it, and act like I won the point".
So? He pointed out an obvious double standard and like piers Morgan you have no answer
@@maskedmarvyl4774 No, it's a good debate tactic. If someone brings up an irrelevant point or appeals to authority, it's good to question why it matters to the debate.
@@elgatofelix8917 Be original.
This is exactly the problem we have in the society and the fact that people choose manipulative tactics instead of reasonable argument, or even more important, acknowledge when you're wrong. There's nothing bad in being wrong, and until we as humanity don't realize this, we're still going to be stuck in the stone age in terms of our collective mindset.
Ben often knows how to both manipulate and reason his arguments effectively. Makes for a difficult combination to disagree with.
There's a difference between a discussion among experts on the subject searching for an optimal solution and Lawyers/political figures/lobbyist who are paid to simply win the argument.
That's what debating is
We have left analytical reasoning and logic far behind.
Because Schadenfreude.
The bad part of being wrong, is that it often makes the other side look right, or feel right, or be perceived as right.
This is not necessarily true; and I have lost many debates, without being convinced that the other side is holistically right. But the winners often luxuriate in verbally out-maneuvering me, and I leave feeling no more convinced than I came in.
So there's a fear of being wrong; a fear that if I am willing to give an opponent the high ground, he will just belittle me and my values from it for his own pleasure, rather than use that position to work to our benefit.
Being right helps a lot!
explains why Ben needs tricks
WARNING: Be careful when using any of these tactics with a girl you are dating. lol
Are you saying Ben "Virginity is Cool" Shapiro isn't a good model for dating? Who would have thought!
@@IAmGeorgeLucas cool, but when are you making a good Star Wars movie again?
@@IAmGeorgeLucas no no no, that meme format is reserved for Joe "do you smoke weed" Rogan only.
That's because women don't debate/argue fair. They are emotionally driven.
Facts don't care about your feelings babe
8. Talk 4 times faster than your opponent.
Lol true
Lmao
dude i was gonna comment this, you beat me ):
talking faster makes your opponent shut up more
You can do that when u know what ur actually talking about
That's not a tactic that's genetics and upbringing lol
1. catching a non-arguement
2. being offended doesn't prove anything
3. push a person to give examples
4. know your arguments inside and out
5. emphasize the conditions under which you would agree with your opponent
Ben is an awesome debater. I started watching him on TH-cam years ago and it helped me hone my own debating skills. But I also learned to never tell my wife, "Facts don't care about your feelings". That is one argument that I didn't win 🤣🤣
Instead of injecting "your feelings" try using "our feelings". Re-levels the field that you both are standing on.
He tries to confuse the person he is talking to. That to me is elementary school tactics
The same can be said the other way around 'feeling don't care about your facts'
Probably because you took a tradition that was based off superstitions, felt your identity was threatened and emotionally retorted "Facts don't care about your feelings." even though what she said was indeed, factual.
1967... If lies and over talking trying to confuse who you are talking to is a debate then he acts like a child on my eyes
“Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything”
Wise words in today’s times.
Such a controversial comment with no comments and only likes. I agree.
@@matthewguy1155 😭
Or in the words of Shapiro "Facts don't care about your feelings"
@@jonathanshawver4678 But honestly, that's some wisdom
Couldn't agree more
Imagine two Ben Shapiro's debating against each other.
Omg
Absolute war.
The smugness would rip a hole in our universe
You should watch him with Steven Crowder
Baltzar Bonbeck it didn’t have to be about politics, it could be everything you know :))))))
I love debating on many different issues, (especially Christian apologetics) but I want to get better with debating social issues.
I really enjoyed learning this. I did notice you reference beforehand any comments you then played for us, and I do understand, as you also explained, that you didn’t want us to misconstrue any particular points one way or the other. I do realize that in our society today we have become perhaps to quick to speak or think before we just let ourselves hear what is the other person is asking, or answering. I think it is really great that you are putting this information out on a channel, and why I am going to follow it! Thank you for already teaching me something today!😉
“If somebody personally attacks you then that means you’re actually winning the debate” amen 🙏
In fact , I agree with this !!!
and then he says in his "10 tips to debate lefties" video that you should attack your opponent's personality. He is a huge hypocrite
@@motyovszkimiklos7538 You realise ben didnt make this video surely? These were just points this channel picked up on and claimed to be rules he seems to follow in debates. He doesnt actually have this list in a frame and read it every night before bed 😂
Which is what Ben did to Andrew Neil 😂
Well, you may win a debate, but you may lose an election. Clinton...
This is the most impressively neutral take on Ben I’ve ever seen online. Good job.
I'm honestly not sure to me I kinda sounded like he was against ben. Anyone else?
@PoliticsPres possibly
Neutral?! Is it neutral to argue against the right of private property as the narrator does when he say socialist wouldn't see it that way? I barely got into this video and I was scratching my head to understand the narrator's contorsions. The presenter is anything but neutral. The narrator starts with the assumption that there is no gravity, no up, no down, and to make any assertion would be to state a bias. Fact and the truths they lay out are not bias. This is what I call untethered thought processes. If you untether all fact for from reality, then you can make any argument seem logical working in this created realm of fantasized reality.
Marisa Nya yeah cool, that had nothing to do with the thread at all. If you wanna stir up a debate then don’t do it on a random comment talking about the take that the poster had on Ben.
@@scottsyverson1607 Facts are not biased. Interpretations of facts are often biased. Your argument here shows that you fully buy into the snuck premise of private property and cannot see past your preconceived belief that "of course there's private property!" You completely missed the presenter's point - and in fact, demonstrated it quite well. There was no anti-Shapiro bias in that section and the presentation was, indeed, quite neutral.
Another technique Ben uses is rapid speech which forces debate opponents to stop and think about what he said. This makes your opponent look weak because they don't have time to formulate an instant response.
Hear faster. Problem solved.
And just we're in the clear, I don't think you mean the gish galloping fallacy, where one throws as many objections in his speech time as possible that the audience thinks if the opponent failed to respond to all of them then one has won by default.
You don't mean that objection, do you?
As a fellow fast-talker who listens to podcasts (including Shapiro's) at x1.5 speed, all I can say is git gud
He uses rapid speech to mask the logic errors and weakness in his own arguments. He is very immature and insulting. He is arrogant and prideful.
@@zerochaos1 Git gud, scrub
@@zerochaos1 Ironic! There is absolutely nothing wrong about presenting new arguments or angles from which you have to consider an issue at all! Otherwise, if all is scripted, then how different or professional really is any speaker, if they're doing nothing but regurgitating previously pointed out arguments?
Amd for Zero, where is the wrong thing Ben is doing? Let me dissect (in the neutral sense, to just break down) your points. You're firstly assuming Ben's throwing fallacies and is fallen victim to cognitive biases a lot of the time, but his saving grace is how quickly he throws stuff at the opponent's wall and see what sticks. So firstly you're assuming he's using fallacies a lot of the time (which I'm not positively arguing against, but I seldom see him do those. You're more than welcome to point out where he did so.)
It is only wrong logically to throw claims after claims that the opponent can't possibly address in the debate's time, and being segwayed into debunking and defending irrelevant points instead of addressing and debunking immediately relevant points to the debate's topic. Even then, overwhelming the audience with 10 issues when the debate can only handle 2 or 3 topics or subpoints at max, to me is a coward way of redherring and distracting the viewer's attention. And notice I specifically said "topics/isses" not "points", as I genuinely believe putting 15 arguments or points all immediately relevant to your case is absolutely fair game. I mean, it's a bit unfair given he can deliver 1.5-2 times the amount of info his opponent can, but is that a logical fallacy or a shameful tactic? I see it as much of a shameful tactic as someone knowing more than his opponent really. Speaking faster isn't that different from knowing a subject more deeply than your opponent if you think about it.
Secondly, and where irony lies, you're yourself calling him names and for lack of a better word, poisoning the well on him. If the fallacy you were looking for was gish galloping, i.e., overwhelming the opponent with topics he can't address (like throwing accusations after the other that he can't recover from in the debate's time), then you yourself committed the unforgivable sin of using words in your favor.
And before you call me a Ben-boi I'd like to inform you, I am an Arab myself, and regarding that thing going on I differ with DW and pretty much all of conservatives in this regard. So almost by definition I'd have to nitpick every flaw I can find of him and how twisted he is in his speeches. What I have is, gonna sound arrogant there, the intellectual courage to say he's right when he's right, and innocent of fallacies when he's innocent of those grave sins.
I probably disagree with them on every single issue, albeit it slightly in most cases. But calling me a Ben fanboy ain't gonna cut it, especially given in his book I'm as antisemitic as one can possibly be.
But when he's right, he's right.
You forgot the part where he says his wife is a doctor
Hahahaha!
*Hebrew Hammer lol
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 it became a kind of a meme because he says it a lot, i guess. Ben "my wife is a doctor" Shapiro.
😂
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 what the hell, isn't that private info?
The shampoo bottles in my shower are gonna be so impressed.
😂😂😂
don’t understand your joke
@@itquankazi as in having arguments with your self in the showe
Lmao
I already destroyed one in the argument, now I'll be able to do the same thing to the other ones before.
You have explained why debates are nothing more than entertainment
Nuts
A GAME OF VERBAL FENCING.
Excellent points are made all through this video.
Legend has it that he has infinite uno reverse cards
Anonymous person
I just wanna get rid of moderators. don't care how or what people's why is. guess infinite number 2 cards with different colors lol
@@ultraatari9298 no u
Anonymous person
Legend has it Ben was too afraid to debate Kyle kulinski.
I think of it the same way. +4 and Reverse!
K
Im unculted
Does the reverse car deflect back, or just change the orders that the players go
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS my sandcastle that I spent all day making
how original
You deserve it after all you made it of sand
Next time go with concrete
NEXT MEME
ur making this up, ben shapiro isnt real
Then stop making your sandcastle out of fake news sand :P. Whole natural sand is the way to go xD
Ben and Jordan Peterson are two people that you literally can’t argue with. They come prepared with facts and science to back it up
To use TRICKS to try to avoid answering the questions is a sign you cannot answer the questions. My old man always said you cannot avoid answering the questions, just answer them. What i see now is no one is actually having a discussion, just deflecting from each other.
8) If you are out of ideas and hopelessly pinned, don't forget the classic, "Your pp small"
Or your mom gah
Ol’ reliable
Cant Best that!
@Mutated Pearl that can ne countered with"your family tree LGBT
Or the overwhelmingly victorious « no u »
Imagine Ben playing as an impostor in Among us.
Ben Ten if they had a leader board he would be #1
he would win every game
Oh, God
so hypothetically for the sake of argument, let's say i was the impostor
Nah, he’s pretty sus
for the better me. I am gonna make sure that I watch all the videos in your channel! they are life changer !
Ben is on another Level
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS MY PARENTS MARRIAGE by SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS
Connor Riggs NOW THAT IS EPIC
are you implying Ben is your dad?
Another libtard rekt
OoOoOooOOooOooOoOof
Very epic
Reason number 8: his wife is a doctor.
What's your point?
@@saral19 you have much to learn.
this actually got me to smirk at my phone😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Two Ben Shapiro's debating each other would result in overload and a complete explosion.
I absolutely appreciate all the videos you share. This one in particular because it will possibly give me a chance to win at least a few debates between my son and I. I love him to death, but he is an incredible debater. I seem to fall victim to his skill and experience.
I debate my mum often and she always wrecks me, we need to switch places lol
@Owen Reid Too funny! Yes, or try to school each other for the "next time s".
A question I wuld ask is what is your goal in debating with your son? Why do you want to "win" debates? What are your actual goals there? Unless it's someting you and your son do for fun and understand you are debating as a type of game, I don't think trying to learn tactics to "beat" your son at debate is likely to accomplish any goal I would associate with parenting.
You got this, Mrs. Shapiro!
So, the point of a "debate," in your view, is not to learn or hear other ideas, but to *win.* And that is exactly how this guy views it.
You could argue just like Ben but you’re parents would still pull the “talking back” card
deadass😭
that's because your parents are playing the "I DEMAND YOUR COMPLIANCE" card, That works until you are capable of winning a physical fight, Then they have to use Soft power, to back those words, That words until you have soft power as well or own your own living space, At which point negotiation becomes optional.
parents see a logical ,reasonable an valid argument = DISRESPECTFUL
Tibs Sage that’s teachers all the way
I am your mother!
"Simply being offended doesn't prove anything"
All twitter drama perfectly summed up
*ALL* Social Media (if not most) debates summed up haha!
Another favorite of my is Facts don't care about your feeling.
Also Reddit and Facebook
Twitter is a mental illness "platform".
And political tiktok
You did a very sharp observation picking those points from Ben, salute
His real skill he knows the opponents side better than they do.
Nowadays everyone argues to win and not to learn.
Allu: When one is trying to reason with a leftist, one can be certain they are not interested in learning from you, and you can also be certain there is nothing available to learn from their fact-free emotion-based regurgitated-talking-point rant which passes for an argument only in their own mind, so that’s how we get there. 🤣
@@HQBergeron Agreed all they do is throw hissy fitt about things they don't understand.
@@HQBergeron the right side is the mirror image of the left. You look exactly like each other but your both on different sides of the mirror
@@darkspawn4980 You must place your mirror differently than I place mine. On the other side of my mirror is a dense, immovable wall. That is the left. On my side is life in all its glory. Which side are you on?
@@HQBergeron the trapped side, but if you place another mirror facing yours I'll be free
Ben Shapiro SAVAGELY DESTROYS the sandcastle that I took 2 hours to build
With FACTS and LOGIC
Okay, this is epic
*Ben shaprio yelling at a sand castle in the face*
Then don't be a child. Stop building sandcastles!!
@Leisure LOL thank you for that
An expert debater. Thank you
Excellent video with excellent examples and commentary.
He's very sharp and direct. He's not always right or agreeable, but always worth listening to
The main problem is that you only remember these premises when your in the shower 3 days later
YOU'RE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly 🤣
In practice I wanna assume the timeframe becomes shorter
@@SlickSkuddy if you wanna be good just read books nd listen to people use these tactics a lot and then do actual debates even if you lose its experience
@@dougo3592 why should someone need to win argument.
Why not have a conversation instead of "winning"
It’s honestly fun to listen to him debating. He’s very quick on his feet
Brennan Probasco
Ikr, I don’t even like listening to debates but he makes it interesting
Nicholas Millington
Link?
Another reason why he's so dominant.
Sinfulxiv
Nicholas Mullington doesn’t have a link
@@sinfulxiv9607 I think he's talking about the Andrew Neil interview. The left says Ben was humiliated. The right says the interviewer was being unreasonable. Check it out for yourself.
If you can defend yourself vocally, physically, and mentally - You will be a force to be reckoned with.
Speaking of experience.
I might need to listen to this about 1,000 times more because I am terrible arguing with people I just want to find the facts throw them on your face and have the case close I struggle to understand tactics.
Me too but if you are ambushed by multiple people in an argument, definitely use this video as your guide to put them all in a trap.
Most debates seem to occur more when people have different information on a subject rather than a difference of opinion. If you want to 'win' you typically have to know your facts and sources quite well and be able to predict theirs.
@@xitaris5981 Or having the same facts, but interpreting them in a stronger rhetorical way, you "win." That's the problem here. Tactics not fact....icts.
The "facts" ?
haha
No you want to find words to support whatever side you've chosen to be on. And you call it facts when it support your subjective views.
Expand ur vocabulary. And any time u think of a question u don’t know the answer to, google it and then expand on that google search. Information seeking and a wide range of vocabulary is a good place to start.
"Where did you get those statistics?"
"Census Bureau."
😂had me dying
"Where does it _say_ The Boy Scouts of America is just for boys?"
"In the name."
A bit better response than "google it!" 😂😂😂
He was damn ready
And the way he just backed off. That was quite an "Oh $#!t" moment for him.
Reuben Kim the guy was probably thinking he would stump him lol
Imagine Ben Shapiro as your lawyer in court.
Ben Shapiro Becomes Lawyer, Judge Is Arrested For Murder
I would lose every case D,:
@@PGOuma : *Watches the video*
Also you: Imma pretend I didn't see that
@FuckOuttaHere Only if the jury are a bunch of stoned college kids with no confidence
@@hueyfreeman1983 by confidence, do you mean, always feeling the comforting support of the herd? Lol stay "woke", sheeple.
It's a very interesting style. It's almost like a funnel in that he starts with a general claim and knows beforehand that he can continue to narrow his claims and become more specific as the debate goes on.
Truth is the best trick.
I’m scared of getting on a plane with Ben Shapiro, he’d destroy that left wing.
@Jordan Robshaw 😂😂
@Jordan Robshaw hell yeah man😂damn that reply is fire🔥
@@ravindupabasara3016 The plane would be on fire.
@@GaySatanicClowns yeah🤣
Comment appreciated :)
Ben Shapiro Destroys the Left Wing
Everyone else on the plane: =O
Andrew Neil destroyed him in uk
LOL
paul stanley just think about it like comparing that one horrific murder to a mass serial killer on the loose for years. It just doesn’t compare when you think of all of his debates. But yes, that debate he did was horrible and he should’ve known better.
@@goncman smh you didn't get the joke lol , lighten up have some fun ! Party at my house, free disease for everyone who shows up !
that genuinly had me laughing
The thing about people like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Bill Maher, Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate, etc. People who listen to these guys don't even necessarily agree with half of what they say. But people listen to them because they have a way of making a valid point. They have a way of challenging your thinking. People who hate them don't like their thinking to be challenged. They dont like people that dont just say words that affirm their beliefs and confirm their biases.
TY for the video. I'm hoping this is enlightening for some - so they may see though the BS easier.
8. Have a wife who's a doctor
9. have a doctor who is a wife.
11. Obtain a doctor wife
An expired grapefruit 12. Marry woman with a doctorate
13. Be the husband of a doctor
14. Always mention youre wife's a doctor
"If the other person ends up attacking you, you are actually winning the debate"
I like that
Not actually true most of the time. Really just depends on the type of “attack.”
@@dudies3377 Yea i dont think you'd win the debate if someone just ran up and 'attacked' u by punching u in the face. I think tht just means you need to learn to duck 😂😂
@@dudies3377 "winning the debate" not "winning the boxing match"
Takumi If you sincerely thought I was referring to physical attacks, I feel sorry for you.
Lovemercy You sound extremely obnoxious and biased. Both liberalism and conservatism are beliefs based on differing values and have their pros and cons. Saying that one side’s beliefs are inherently correct and the other side’s are irrelevant just means you’re too indoctrinated by your ideals to possibly engage in any meaningful discourse regarding the topic. Perhaps you should check yourself and try being a bit more open-minded
The point about 'snuck premises' has been stuck in my brain ever since I first watched this video
*Facts don't care about your feelings*
Jon Gee :/
Salutes
Saw this meme today 😂
*Feelings don't care about your facts*
Most republicans argue from feelings.
When he said “So?” to piers morgan HAHAHHAHA i laughed
Margot emmy Mc Mc that’s cool
when i read "HAHAHHAHA i laughed" LOOOL i laughed out out out loud
So?
F***ing pansies. He said so because that wasnt a valid point and he wanted him to elaborate. Doesn't surprise me someone who doesn't have logic doesn't understand this
Your comment was good but you could of stated it differently
Great vid. Thank you!
This video just shows that the point of all those debates is just who is better at outsmarting the opponent instead of let's have an argument and fact driven dialogue to get the truth.
1) Choose Your Battles
2) Be prepared
3) Have facts backing up your argument
Shapiro never has #3.
@@MRocky323 yes he does! 🤣🤣🤣 What are you talking about???
@@sonicthehedgehog1109 No, he doesn't. He is just good at presenting arguments in a cohesive manner. But if you really dig into his arguments and the "facts" he states, you quickly notice they are usually full of logical fallacies (strawmanning being one of the key words here) and factual misrepresentation. Sometimes his "facts" are even drawn from scientifically dishonest sources. When it comes to the issue of black crime, he is especially dishonest and misrepresents the data/statistics badly, and in this particular case I am not even sure whether it's deliberate or not. So no, he usually does not have "facts" to back up his claims, he is just a mediocre debater picking his battles with even worse debaters.
UserJWR Alright so who’s you favorite debater? I’m honestly curious...
@@thibaultl1956 I like Sam Harris, because he always strives to be very clear about his definitions and is actually interested in what his opposition has to say. I can't really say a lot more about American debaters because I am from Germany and I am not that exposed to the political sphere, but in Germany I like Richard David Precht (political philosopher), because he is very easy to follow and his line of argumentation almost always makes perfect sense, at least to me.
That being said, I don't think that debate is actually a good way to exchange ideas. Debating is usually about overwhelming your opponent with rhetorical tricks and thereby convincing an audience with rhetorical strength rather than argumentative strength. (There is a book called "How to be right" by Arthur Schopenhauer, which is filled with rhetorical tricks and logical fallacies and how to use them to win debates. You can just have it lying next to you when watching Shapiro and check off boxes, it's scary).Also, people can have good ideas but be extremely bad at debating, maybe because they can't come up with good responses on the spot or just because they don't like the spontaneous nature of debates. Or maybe they can't remember all of their arguments or get lost in between them. That doesn't mean, however, that they can't defend their idea or that their idea is bad.
The best political philosophy emerged from a much more controlled way of discourse, namely through the exchange of (sometimes public) letters, where the disputants have much more time to think about their response and try to tear apart their opponent's argument. This makes it a lot harder to act in bad faith or to apply logical fallacies and get away with it. The modern equivalent would be the exchange of ideas through TH-cam videos. That's why I enjoy Amazing Atheist, ContraPoints, Shaun, TLDR etc much more than debate videos.
You know it’s all over when Ben smirks
I just saw another video that criticized his smirking as it meant he was making his opponent mad, that may be the case or not.
I think when Ben smirks he is thinking checkmate ...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Smirks. In other words reveals himself to be a smug self serving bully.
@Cody - Ikigai He can only beat college randos lmfao
@@argargargpirate Incorrect. He’s debated news outlets and congress people
Another one of his best “tactics”, is knowing and understanding the topic ridiculously well before debating it.
Except of course for the majority of the time when he's been shown to have no real understanding of what he's talking about. That's part of why Shapiro is notorious now for running away from debates. How embarrassing.
@@ObakuZenCenter give me an example of this
@@ObakuZenCenter yeah which debates has he been running away from? who was he debating that he ran away from? provide specific debates.
@ObakuZenCenter still waiting
Im in awe of him, his speaking reflects the speed at which his mind works. I always think of all the good replies 2 hours after the "debate" ha!
I'm pretty sure he actually slows down his speech so most ppl could understand what's he's saying.
“My doctor is a a wife”
-Ben Shrapnel
Bruh dat boi sed
@Natasel At least not outside of the bed.
Kolamoose
666 likes pls don’t like
Bro I had to do a double take to realize that something was wrong I'm done with myself
2:08 “Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything.” Oh hallelujah, thank you for saying that.
@@crungus__ since anyone can be offended at anything, that isn't proving anything beyond a person finds something offensive. I could be offended by someone saying hello to me but that doesn't mean it is objectively offensive.
@@benwatson5787 libtard destroyed
Ben Watson are you trying to convince someone who disagrees with you, the merit of your argument. Callousness has never worked.
@@adele19b3 I was agreeing with Cameron and disagreeing with Soviet, not quite sure what you mean.
@@benwatson5787 But what makes something objectively offensive? All offense is subjective and by that logic nothing should be offensive to anyone...
oh okay so basically trying to save face even when you're wrong. great advice dude
I love Ben. He always wins the argument.
I like how you do this objectively, and don't endorse or refute him.
It kinda upsets me . 😂
I mean it's really professional and I like that but it starts to make me think he's on the opposing side of me .
@@sasukeisacat I tend to like people more when they agree with me too, tribalism is normal. But sometimes you've just gotta try and separate art from artist although sometimes I do struggle with that
Sparrow Uchiha I feel like COC is liberal, I know he said he didn’t vote for Trump (while by no means does that make you a liberal, I know many conservatives that didn’t, Shapiro is one of them) but I feel like he is left leaning. But I could be wrong. But he has been unbiased in my experiences with watching his videos.
Benjamin Chen what don’t you feel him being left leaning or him being unbiased?
@@sasukeisacat republicans watch his videos too he cant alienate them
Piers was on the “how dare you” before Greta
@@donkeylord3517 It's still uncool
@Golden Eagle "that seems mildly inappropriate for a political debate" 🤣
You must understand that when you alter the chronological recount of events past have been jumbled to create our modern history, and the only responsible way to make an accurate logical correction for the better future AND TO BE REASSURED THAT YOU ARE NOT MISTAKEN WHILE GOSSIPING , factual evidence should always stand the test of plausible deniability and never be struck from the record. I salute Ben for making a stand - and defending it . He is far less likely to be bought off. Keep seeking!
It's what makes everything so unique so perfectly timed. Etc.
He talks so fast and doesn't stutter, and taks with confidence
that's his secret
I have Invisalign so I stutter a lot now, is the best strategy to speak slowly but with confidence or fast with confidence and pretend I didn’t stutter?
@@blobblue6833 probably speaking slowly
@@blobblue6833 Does Invisalign makes one stutter ? Then i don't know if i should get one.
Talking fast and not stuttering doesn't make your points correct. Sure, speaking with confidence is important, but it won't "win" the discussion alone.
@@jackl.1759 exactly!!
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS a sandcastle I spent ALL DAY building
haha he's that kind of guy
@@everythingsfine3064 He literally said he would destroy all sand castles in the pewdiepie video
@@kylemagaro231 FACTS
If you want to WIN debates (I don't recommend this as a goal for any real adult conversation) then a secret is to WITHHOLD information.
Like in that first clip of Ben; he doesn't state that his statistic is from the census until asked. This permits them to challenge the legitimacy of your data, making them appear weak when that challenge is instantly beaten. Them challenging your SOURCE and losing makes it seem as if your ARGUMENT was valid because it seems they had to challenge the data rather than the conclusion you drew FROM that data. It implies that they couldn't debate your conclusion, when they WOULD have simply challenged your conclusions if you had offered up your source as secure.
Your trap to draw them into challenging your source rather than your conclusion makes your conclusion come off as a higher authority than it actually was.
Manipulation is actually rather easy. ...it's not at all friendly or ethical or conducive to an honest adult conversation though, so please DON'T work this into your personality or daily conversational playbook.
Except, in this case, there wasn't really any conclusion off the data to be debated with; Ben just presented the data that by itself supported his point.
Russel Brand once told Ben that he’s very good at winning debates without being right. That’s always stuck with me.
Who's the arbiter of what's is right? Russel Brand?
I totally didn't watch this so I can win a debate with my parents
Lol,don't try his tactics(it will piss them off,but you'll sound smarter)
@@mobslayer211 They hated him because they told them the truth.
They might hit you with the "because I said so"
Bald Torment I think you could argue that’s a argument based on authority ( which isn’t necessarily good or bad ) which just means they don’t have a sound argument if that’s their only reason for you being wrong
@@blakedavis2447 "I told you so" counters even the greatest arguments
I find that when the enemy loses his temper, I've won.
so say you destroy something of your enemy’s that is very epic to him and he gets mad did you win because he got pissed off for destroying his thing? or are you the one to blame for making him mad cus you destroyed something of his that wasn’t yours?
@@bruggbruh1865 that is what a debate is i.e. destroy your opponents.
@@bruggbruh1865 That's the point of a debate. You destroy what your opponent defends
Maybe, but if it's before you've even had a chance to say anything of substance (like what happened to Ben on the BBC) then it's more like the person who got mad forfeited
@@__-dq9ev It's never about convincing others to believe your stance, right? It's just about who can boost their ego better at the expense of another person.
You know what would be a great addition to your videos, would be a direct link or links to Just Ben Shapiro's guide, or Jordan Peterson's guide, WITHOUT narration.
Masters of debate in the last 25 years, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, Ann Coulter, Katie Pavlich and the Master of debate in this time, Ben Shapiro. Thank you all!
Ben Shapiro: the only man that can pull off a stutter
Havkey you just have to do it superhumanly fast
Obama man.
No he’s not the only man who can but he’s one of the best
Troy Oliver yes he is
Tim pool.
**Watches video**
**turns into lawyer**
Well done..
Where's my cut?
Ahaha
@Dave Liebers He is not quite clear about whether the term "their money" refers to a legal or a moral distinction. I would assume a moral one, in which case there is no clear, default reference by which this definition can be taken as a given, which is the premise he is trying to sneak in.
Also, unless you actually want to claim that the distribution of resources which results from the _complete absence_ of any regulation whatsoever is the only proper one, you are going to have to acknowledge that there is in fact a legitimate argument about what it means to "earn" money and what the moral implications of a particular situation is, however inconvenient this may be to your tribalist, ideological sense of superiority.
Guy literally tried to make a point that he wants to fight racism but he cannot because his opponents won't explain what racism is. This isn't what debates are about. He just likes to talk fast and trick his opponents into confusion. Not making a valid point or promoting healthy dialogue. He is an insult to intelligence.
@Dave Liebers Do you think you can destroy libtards like Ben Shapiro does? Because I can't.
0:55 bro took that like a champ 😂
Ben is a master-debater and a cunning linguist.
…Against college kids.
@@EsoTarikZyou missed the double entendre. Twice. So I guess you doubled the double entendre. Are you a college kid by the way?
And you're a wordsmith 😃
@@Candolad If you define a word smith as being writer with writing credentials...then yes. Indeed I am. Although my spelling is lacking.
He's a LIAR who supports the terrorist state of Israel. Enough said.
He’s really just a well trained lawyer. Go to law school and take negotiations. They teach you ways to poke holes, and guide others to your point and side.
You mean insist on evidence v opinion and be well prepared? That is all this is
Marisa Nya you really tried but that’s so untrue he just doesn’t say your side of the argument so you’re going to say he’s wrong, but if you FACT check he’s completely correct. You are just a leftist sheep
@Marisa Nya That's actually a bold faced lie, if you listened to anything he's said on the matter in the last 2-3 years, he's changed his stance on this. Nice try though.
Hmm sounds like a shallow insult to dismiss what he’s actually saying.
Id argue he was probably in debate club in high school. If I had any idea Debating was as much fun as other ...bating Id of joined the Debate class.
Before watching a Ben Shapiro debate:
*Weird flex, but ok*
After watching a Ben Shapiro debate:
*Peculiar boast, but alas*
Thou hast done mutilation on thy grape
Peculiar flaunt, yet agreeable nonetheless
Best comment
most glorious critique
This right here , yeah right here
Great video glad I found you
What do you call someone who is great at debating? You call them a master debater. Great commentary my brother.
I understand why he had to do it, but its still sad he has to continually say "I'm not saying I agree with Ben" or something of that nature because he knows the internet will turn it into him being right wing conservative just because he made a video on Ben Shapiro.
Edit: I am brain dead from reading the comments under my own comment. Almost all of your comments have 0 to do with what I even said.
its also funny how people in their particular political surrounding often state at which side they stand before they even say anything so as not be attacked by their "allies" for an unpopular opinion
R Parker right that’s my point. He might dislike Ben Shapiro but still respects his debate skills. He keeps having to state that the video is not him agreeing with Ben bc so many people take the idea of complimenting ones skills as the same agreeing with the point of view.
People are so scared to be trolled by SJW Marxists....
Most Americans are conservatives tho
Ethereal even if this was true, it wouldn’t matter. Super far leftists, not average democrats, cancel anyone who doesn’t fully agree with their POV.
Number 8; host meme review with Pewdiepie
Kali that’s number 9 8 is his wife’s a doctor
He did cx
Bonus meme
👏next👏meme
OR with T-series.
He was the best debater long before he did meme review (which was like 2 minutes ago)
What a time to be alive
He is great!
I appreciate that you were able to point out what to do without getting sucked into the politics
(hidden bonus reason): argue against people bad at arguing
The Stig no haha
@@itzdannyboi2563 I mean if one side is better than the other at arguing then yeah that side has a higher chance of success.
Slimeustas Not really. People bad at arguing are often very good at making fallacy, albeit unintentionally. If you are not experienced enough, you will lose very fast.
@@sirbedivere5670 Ben is good at concocting a fallacy, which is another hidden reason.
@@justas423 No it's about an experiencd debater debating inexperienced college kids.