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Why is no one reacting to kizarus praise / acknowledgement to luffy that "you're really the one that took down kaido (Kaido who is regarded as the world's strongest creature in one piece)
@jexrekk0780 to be fair when kuma left the revolutionarys dragon said they were going after him, i wouldnt be suprised if he shows up to fight akainu.
Luffy passed through two barriers that we were told are impossible to go through, which only Kizaru passed only because he's made of light... so that's a W for me
It just dawned on me that we might get a flashback with Kuma being a haki powerhouse. Akainu said Kuma doesn't have his mind and will anymore, so he's obviously weaker as a slave without his will/haki
Nah just rewatched the marineford arc. Akainu was def a monster during the whole thing. But when he said that like towards Kuma about being a puppet, it felt like he was also talking about himself and how he’s not as free
No ones saying Kizaru did no damage, people keep saying the damage luffy has is all from kizaru when luffy clearly has burn marks and said directly that the laser burned him twice.
I think Kizaru CAN damage Luffy for sure, but I don't think that kick did anything but send him flying. I don't think that was Kizaru being serious either, he is still talking and smiling. My prediction is Saturn will tell Kizaru to retreat, because he will be worried about Punk Records getting caught up in the fight
@@Rujewitblood Yeah I don't get why it's hard to believe that that kick didn't do that much damage against Luffy when Snakeman also isn't doing much damage against Kizaru. It's fine if those didn't do that much damage. Both of them still have a lot up their sleeves.
@@animoments8969there isn't actually anything higher than Admiral level Yonko and Admirals are both just titles and the power levels are pretty much same
@@holop100 his videos used to be about story and characters, now its all powerscaling, he didn't even give time to robot waking up and other foreshadowing..
This was a good chapter but what move me was none of the action. It was the story going on with the celestial dragons running out of food. The the possible connection between Akainu & Kuma along with his obvious former friendship with Dragon. Kizaru feeling a type of way about the people he hurting.
@@TheWildCard2kYes its just a minor inconvenience so far but it shows the blockade the revolutionary army set up is starting to have its intended effect. For now they are only out of lobster but that will only get worse and as the celestial dragons have said this is the first time anything like this has happened. The fact that Oda just mentioned the lobster for now was twofold, both showing how self absorbed the C.D are that they are more incensed at the loss of complete freedom of choice more so than the immediate threat they are facing, while also progressing the revolutionary armies storyline for the inevitable conflict in Mary Geoise.
@@UndeadGaryThank you very much for explaining that perfectly in detail. Also add on to the fact this is unprecedented time period of the total damage along with the food supplies in the holy land. I remember Doflamingo throne war speech. He said those celestial dragons will be pulled down from their high horse. Slowly but surely we are seeing that. Also I felt like Akainu was sorta talking about his position while talking about Kuma. He is tired of being on a leash for those ignorant & arrogant celestial dragons. He ready to take action and in a sense they are holding him back.
@FireAngelChris No problem, thanks for the kind praise, and I agree with everything you added. I'm really interested in seeing the culmination of Kuma's storyline and what impact that might have on Akainus character. Can't wait for the next chapter!
@@UndeadGary I am feening to see the backstory because I have a feeling that Dragon & Akainu were close to best friends at time now turn to bitter enemies more so Akainu feeling betrayed by Dragon. So I think personally Akainu know Kuma as well maybe from the times when Kuma was a king of the divert kingdom. Maybe he was charge of a mission do destroy the kingdom or something during my Kuma reigns.
man. idk whats up with these new readers addicted to scaling. all cuz content creators stake their reputation on claims of admirals and yonkos being however strong
So what if Kuma’s mind is in the Ancient Robot? And Kuma’s body now has the programming of the Ancient Robot, that’s why he is climbing the Red Line just like the Robot did 200 years ago….
I don't want to discredit Kizaru as he is my favorite admiral, but it is true that Luffy didn't even mention his kick or the dmg it did (That isn't to say it didn't do much) but he did feel the need to bring up the effects of this barrier. Also, was that barrier not designed to kill whoever went through it? So the fact he tanked it twice, plus the kick from Kizaru is quite impressive.
Kizaru kicked bonnie through the barrier too. Unless you want to argue bonnie was vaporized from it then it's being blown out of proportion. Kizaru needed luffy out of the equation so he could complete his mission. A fight between the two would be extremely drawn out.
Imo i think we at the point of the story where no top tier is stronger in each stat than another and is just overwhelming in one stat, for Big mom is difficult but i guess base defence Kaido is strength or durability, Kizaru is obv speed, akainu probably destructive power, Shanks CoC, Kuzan is a ? since he can box but has large scale attks, Luffy is versatility bb is having offscreen powers and Mihawk is probs obv. this is just my theory i feel like each opponent will allow luffy to improve something specific rather than straight power ups which just happened majorly in wano
Why do you think he was mad? I think he felt validated about the Admirals being strong, due to him being one of the people in the community that understand that the Admirals are strong.
@ewag8950 if you still think big mom could keep up with Kizaru we don't know what to tell. He would give all yonko a run for his money wake up. O and Buggy would defeat him as well then 😅
The amount of COPIUM and disbelief the community is displaying right now is some of the funniest reactions i've seen in this fandom's history, and from the looks of it, IT MIGHT GET WORSE NEXT WEEK LMFAAAOOO, oohh it feels great
@@Mrbeard.. brother, people were saying these dudes were fodder compared to yonkou for YEARS, shit like they are as strong as comanders and stuff like that, it's like Brago said, now people are playing stupid and moving the goal post lmao, Oda is proving a lot of extremists wrong and it's funny as all hell, of course i'm gonna gass that, i had to listen to an unhealthy amount of shit takes for like 5 years +, i'm feeling good rn don't worry about it brother lmaooo
@cakes1166 The double standards against the Admirals have always been ridiculous. You can see the kind of disrespect they've been dealing with for over a half a decade even in here on TH-cam. You have videos of people like King of Lightning saying that Katakuri would beat Kizaru 6 years ago, for example.
Admirals arent pirates, they work best with a team. 1v1 I think they lose to a yonko. I think Akainu can pput up a much better fight then the others, but the regular admirals should woorks together to deafeat a yonko. But in no way are they fodder. I think luffy wins this, but the admrial gets away without too much damage.
@@lordfrz9339 Never understood where this narrative that Admirals work best with a team came from. They work solo majority of the time, and they're only ever sent out solo anyway. Kizaru arguably put up a better fight against Whitebeard than Akainu. We already know how Akainu & Aokiji went as well...so why would Akainu alone be able to put up a "much better fight?" 2 Admirals is just overkill for anyone.
@@ChuckleTubee WB already knew the moment he went off his meds he was going to die how you gonna claim the guy that got clapped, ran away and waited for WB to get finished by someone else before returning to the fight was the one to kill him?
Lol when the live happened it took him about 20mins just to read one page because he kept hyping up the Admiral's. He paused the chapter at Kizarus kick for mad long even his members were telling him to get back and finish the chapter, but then literally has no reaction for what Luffy did to Kizaru at the end 😂
@@SteelSquishynotice how there is a power scale every time-skip? Pre time-skip, Luffy could match the power of a warlord. Post time-skip + the extra training in the Wano prison, Luffy had enough power to defeat a Yonko. We could possibly get one more short time-skip so Luffy can train to match Fleet Admiral/King Title power scale (Akainu, Blackbeard, Shanks, Mihawk, Holy Knights, Gorosei, Imu)
It seems like people in the community didn't since a good amount of them believed that Luffy would beat Kizaru in base. Not to mention they believed Kizaru would be fighting Zoro since "he isn't on Luffy level". And Luffy was going to fight Saturn, people downplay the admiral's strength hard.
I enjoy coming here and watching this every week cuz I don't really have people to talk to about my beloved one piece so it's nice to be part of the community
I think we are really missing a huge piece of info under our noses with Kuma, why exactly is he "the Tyrant"? Was he a Tyrant before he met Dragon and started the revolutionary army? Was he a Tyrant when Bonnie was born? I know Oda is gonna give us something juicy when Kuma and Bonney meet again, and it's going to have us in awe of some storyline we forgot about.
@@sarthakarora3212fodder 😭 white beard was explicitly shown to have aside from luffy THE MOST endurance I mean oda made it a point to say the exact amount of times he was shot & stabbed none of the admirals would survive being hit by all those attacks + white beard couldn’t go all out due to the nature of his devil fruit not everyone is gonna have kaido/big mom invulnerability of course he would be hurt by bullets/weapons especially when haki wasn’t fully established 😭
@@sarthakarora3212he was dying and could barely use haki and wb at that point was weaker than shanks and kaido and big mom the novel stated that so and look at what he did akainu
@@premmandavkar2242 Tf u talking about, did you even read the manga? Kizaru never ran and Ben never removed his gunpoint. Kizaru just never cared about that and continued attacking laws ship (which he was trying to do earlier but ben stopped him temporarely), ben even said with a concerned face ''Aw damn'' implying he failed miserably at stopping kizaru.
3:22 maybe they've already been deployed to engage the Revolutionary Army off screen? That would explain why even the Fleet Admiral himself shows up, seems like all the chaos in the world has stretched the World Govt's forces too thin. Although this is just a thought, for all we know Oda might finally reveal the God Knights next chapter
Anyone that thinks Admirals can't fight Yonko is dumb. Then entire balance of power is that the three Admirals together are on par with a Yonko. That's why Kaido and Big Mom teaming up was catastrophic news for the Admirals, since the balance of power relies on each Yonko working alone. We saw this in Marineford too. The Marines held their own against a single Yonko and their fleet, but once a second one pulled up they had no choice but to let the pirates leave. So imo an Admiral fighting a Yonko is no different from a yonko commander fighting an Admiral. They can hold their own for a while, but the chances of them winning are pretty much non-existent.
Nope. The balance of power is that the Navy & Warlords counter the 4 Yonko. Even after Kaido & Big Mom teamed up, they were still seeking the Ancient Weapons because they were not enough to deal with them just by themselves. In Marineford, the Navy with some of their top tiers doing little or nothing (like Garp & Sengoku), others disappearing at convenient times (the Admirals), and the Warlords on their side doing little crushed the WB Pirates...despite them getting help from basically half the Warlords with Luffy's Impel Down group. And the Navy didn't have a single casualty among their top fighters, with only 1 Admiral being injured, but still fighting the remaining WB Commanders and winning. The pirates would have been wiped out without Luffy's help. The only reason that Sengoku stopped the war was because of his respect for Shanks as well, hence his words: "only because it is you, Red Hair." That just shows if any one else showed up, he would have just continued to wipe them out. Any top tier has a chance of winning against another, whether Admiral or Yonko. That's why they're considered the top opponents for becoming Pirate King in the first place, including by the MC himself.
@@MetakJesu07you are talking no sense and the guy has a point The balance is with one emperor ... admirals has no chance of beating 1 emperor in fair 1 vs 1
@@SamriKhalil How? Did you think that half a Supernova crew was equal to a Yonko crew because only half the Strawhats went to WCI, destroyed Big Mom's entire base and took out a couple of her Commanders? That's what is nonsense. Trying to pretend that just because the Navy wanted to use overwhelming force against the WB pirates that they could only deal with a single Yonko. Just a portion of the Warlords formed a Yonko crew...and yet you're claiming that the entire Navy on top of that and the remaining Warlords is only balancing 1 Emperor? That's just plain stupidity if we're gonna be frank. What magic did you think stopped an Admiral from beating an Emperor in a 1 on 1?
The ancient robot woke up from the drums of liberation the more luffy uses gear 5 I think the louder his heart beat sounds especially when his desire to accomplish his goal I think when his was fighting lucci he was barley play fighting with lucci he just wanted to show lucci he had no chance with kizaru he has to be more serious with his ability idk if I'm right just what I'm thinking
I see from here on out the publics and WG's faith in the admirals might wane. All of the admirals have experienced setbacks recently. Green Bull and Fujitora failed to capture the Revo Army members, Akainu failed to capture Kuma, Kuzan is with Blackbeard and helped capture Garp and now Kizaru is having problems in Egghead and most likely won't accomplish everything he has set out to do. From here on out the admirals are going to have their backs against the wall but that is probably going to make them much more dangerous and bloodthirsty in the future.
The moment I saw the ancient robot and Vegapunk said it needed some kind of energy source to activate I immediately said that it needed Sun God Nika/JoyBoy powers to activate
Admirals are strong but they are not stronger than shanks, Luffy and Blackbeard! They need at least 2 admirals to defeat one of them. Ps: Please be good boy and don’t hate my personal opinion.
This has forever been the dumbest argument in the OP community. Obviously if you are weaker than someone, more than one of you would be advantageous. This applies to anyone, not just Yonko and admirals. So say Big Mom is weaker than Shanks (and most people would assume she is), wouldn't you technically need two Big Moms to win? 🤔 See how dumb that sounds? 😂
I’m still not buying the Admirals hype besides Fleet Admiral Akainu. They are still beneath the Yonko. Watch these dudes (besides Akainu) get tossed around by Luffy, Shanks, Blackbeard, and Buggy (most likely Mihawk). Then that’s where you are going to see the Gorosei and Holy Knights step in and dismiss the Admirals for being weak, and you’ll see the shift between the marines and the upper chain of commands (besides Akainu of course). That is just my opinion though.
If Saturn was actually strong, he’d go in and take care of business without needing a bodyguard that’s supposedly weaker than him to protect him. These frauds let Sabo escape their own territory when they had him outnumbered 6 to 1
As a huge Kizaru and Kuma fan, this was an incredible chapter to me, and this is arc is already in my top 3, alongside Sabaody and Marineford. Btw, I believe Kizaru might not be truly planning on killing Vegapunk, due to what he said when he flew away from the island. I think he has something else planned!
Brago, YOU ARE RIGHT. I've been saying this about the admirals for years! You CANNOT sleep on the admirals, especially the OG 3. Kizaru sent Luffy flying. Now yes, in a full-out battle Luffy would win, but it would not be low-diff. Kizaru is putting some hurting on him
Kizaru did absolutely no damage all he did was push him away and the barrier did the rest in my opinion but that’s not saying kizaru can’t do any damage if he tried
When Luffy grabs Admiral Kizaru in this chapter, it's like Tom grabs Jerry and you know what? ... Jerry always wins in the end, this is not a good sign for Luffy, on top of that Admiral Kizaru didn't even using his awakening yet while fighting everybody in Egghead ... Luffy only can fight in limited time in Gear 5 but Kizaru as an Admiral can fight for 10 days ... Luffy has destroyed Yonko Kaido but he's not ready for an Admiral ... Admirals season is hype AF and we love to see it 🥰
Not gonna lie, I don't get this Kizaru kick hype 👀. No hate on Admirals, but we just came off Kaido KOing Luffy MULTIPLE TIMES, and even killing him. Kizaru kicks Luffy once, Luffy bounced back as he usually does, and that's seen as an impressive feat from Kizaru? 😂 I know Kizaru about to go crazy, but that wasn't a Kizaru W at all lol. EDIT: Y'all Admiral meat 🥩 riders don't even comprehend what you're saying 😂. If Kizaru low diffs G4 Luffy, you're implying Kizaru >> Kaido, because not even Kaido can low diff a maxed out G4 Luffy. Until Kizaru kills, or AT LEAST KO's G4 Luffy, your viewpoint is invalid 🤦🏾♂️😂. Sending Lufy flying, Kaido done that s**t a billion times already, even to G5 Luffy lol, nothing special.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 He kicked Luffy away.. bro Usopp blasted Luffy with an impact dial, Usopp is not equal to Luffy. If Luffy knocking Kaido on his knees with Red Roc isn't "Luffy being on par with Kaido", then Kizaru simply kicking Luffy away isn't Kizaru being on par with Luffy. The fight has just begun.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 We make exceptions for Kaido vs Luffy, and say Kaido was still above Luffy despite Luffy knocking Kaido down, splitting the sky with his clash, sending Kaido flying in base form.. but Kizaru does one kick and he's fighting on par with Luffy.
@@manofculture8666 I can tell you liked your own comment talking about impact dial for pre time skip Luffy……. THIS AINT NO DAMN PRE TIME SKIP LUFFY! After that I stopped reading because that non sense just shows your lack of objectivity
Kuma could in fact have a target within Mariejois, the same target Bonny now saw in his memories. He became a warlord and then removed his memories in order to infiltrate the holy land.
I honestly think that’ll be hype. It would fit with Garp being captured, Luffy either winning or escaping, with Dragon helping Kuma? Idk it would be hype to see. I definitely expect a clash
HOLY SHIT. I've said this before, but I always theorized that Luffy's secret goal is to find the world's biggest mecha robot lmaooo. This chapter I think is heavily foreshadowing that
Oda does not disappoint, i love how he literally made kizaru at light speed, with the new animations online, kizaru would be so damn cool. Btw i dont think yonkos are stronger, but i think individually akainu would slam big mom, go extreme diff vs kaido or shanks (either one could win). Its debatable which is why one piece is fun
yknow, i was expecting Luffy to use Kizaru like a body washrag with how over the top people are describing the fight, turns out it wasn't even close like that lmao i loved the panel of Akainu looking at the distance wondering how and why could a puppet like him try so hard to get to that place, it kinda gave me the vibe that he is seeing a bit of himself in Kuma
@@Rujewitbloodhe grabbed by surprised a dude who allegedly has advanced observation haki and future sight combined to light speed. Where was all this haki when luffy was attacking? Same for akainu, where was this haki when whitebeard got behind him and took his sweet time to charge his attack?
@@docomega7862 nothings ever been stated about his haki, and even if he has it so what, it doesn't mean he's impossible to surprise. luffy has future sight did he not see himself getting sent flying through the barrier?
I love it when powerscalers, try to change what's literally said by character, by their own theory "I Crossed barrier twice, i thought it would kill me", what's so confusing about it, when luffy is literally saying "it" was barrier..
I fucks with Kizaru he’s proven himself on multiple occasions by himself, Akainu on the other hand gets gassed heavy. And the only person I can think of that he beat solo and that was at 💯 was Aokiji.
Where does u guys read your manga at I need a good safe site. Also Luffy is into his Goku shit he won’t go all out right away he like to warm up and see what they got
The fact Luffy went through the barrier twice means he came back to Labophase before Vegapunk disabled it. This means Luffy was ready to come back, the only thing he's complaining about is that the barrier almost killed him because it burns so much. I dont think they'll fight for very long, but Kizaru is in for a surprise if he thinks Liffy is a pushover 😌 this is post-Wano Luffy, and my boy is ready to go
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Why is no one reacting to kizarus praise / acknowledgement to luffy that "you're really the one that took down kaido (Kaido who is regarded as the world's strongest creature in one piece)
You can tell Akainu is sick of the celestial dragons but his dialogue about Kuma can even apply to him as such too in some way.
It’s possible that the god knights are attacking the RA which is attacking the food shipments.
yeah i thought man was talking about himself
@@boboom4657Yeah I thought it was very ironic. He sick of being a puppet to those nobles. He pretty ignored them this chapter.
Legit when he mentioned about being a puppet. Made me think he was telling himself that as wel
What did he lose ? The projecting thing is such a reach to me it’s insane
Monkey D Luffy vs Kizaru
Monkey D Garp vs Aokiji
Monkey D Dragon vs Akainu? 👀👀👀
It makes sense bc Akainu calls Luffy "Dragon's son" lmao
@@jexrekk0780deffo has beef with dragon😂
@jexrekk0780 to be fair when kuma left the revolutionarys dragon said they were going after him, i wouldnt be suprised if he shows up to fight akainu.
Interesting
Hoping we come out at least 2-1
Akainus gotta have a backstory connected to dragon and the rev, he referred to luffy as “dragons son” now he’s having a soliloquy about Kuma
Drag and akainu mightve been koby and helmepo back in the day
Luffy passed through two barriers that we were told are impossible to go through, which only Kizaru passed only because he's made of light... so that's a W for me
Kaku was halfway through it's not an actual barrier it's more like environmental damage like lava in games than an invisible wall.
@@ye7625kaku was not half way through and it was only at 70 percent when he tried
@@trustn01rs bro what are you on😭 we literally see on panel that he had his torso through the barrier (Chapter 1068 page 14)
Then in that case bony is dead
When you see Akainu, it always on sight! when he not at the base.
I popped off when Sakazuki got up and started fighting again. Hoping to see more of that again soon
I just want to see my boy KUMA at full power, this dude was once a KING!!!
Isn't he part of a Special Race ? Don't remember
I hope his memories get transferred to the seraphim version of Kuma, and he is able to gain a Will of his own
Same but narratively kuma is done dawg lol
Umm so ?
King means nothing in OP unless you owns haki of supreme King
Akainu bullies full power kuma
I’m not going to lie. Akainu cold asf 🔥
He’s literally the total opposite of cold 🫤😅
Oxymoron
BOOOOOOOOO
He's the kobe Bryant of one piece straight killer
@@jamalhughes8325there’s already a koby and he showed up a couple chapters ago 😏
It just dawned on me that we might get a flashback with Kuma being a haki powerhouse. Akainu said Kuma doesn't have his mind and will anymore, so he's obviously weaker as a slave without his will/haki
yoo this would be so good
luffu grabbing kizaru like a titan grabbing a human
Nah just rewatched the marineford arc. Akainu was def a monster during the whole thing. But when he said that like towards Kuma about being a puppet, it felt like he was also talking about himself and how he’s not as free
No ones saying Kizaru did no damage, people keep saying the damage luffy has is all from kizaru when luffy clearly has burn marks and said directly that the laser burned him twice.
I think Kizaru CAN damage Luffy for sure, but I don't think that kick did anything but send him flying. I don't think that was Kizaru being serious either, he is still talking and smiling. My prediction is Saturn will tell Kizaru to retreat, because he will be worried about Punk Records getting caught up in the fight
people twist words of other to prove themselves right.
@@Rujewitbloodthat did damage bruh no one cares what u think😂
@@Rujewitblood Yeah I don't get why it's hard to believe that that kick didn't do that much damage against Luffy when Snakeman also isn't doing much damage against Kizaru. It's fine if those didn't do that much damage. Both of them still have a lot up their sleeves.
Lol admiral stans always grasping at straws.
Love the fact that Kizaru was so fast that Franky reacted in the next panel even though he had already kicked bonney
@@willisamak3654ong damn near every one of these mfs create their own headcanon and make up they own bs
@@trynastartshi5769thats really because manga can be vague sometimes. Thats why anime is good to flesh out the scenes and add life to mangas.
@@trynastartshi5769that’s literally most of the fans regardless
@@BigCyanit’s literally not vague at all they just don’t pay attention
@goddessyamato5238 depends on which manga youre talking about
Makes sense cuz roger requested garp and sengoku to challenge him and they prolly were admiral level at that time
Garp or Sengoku*
Not Garp and Sengoku
Higher than admiral level
@@animoments8969 they were admiral level🤫🤫
@@animoments8969there isn't actually anything higher than Admiral level
Yonko and Admirals are both just titles and the power levels are pretty much same
@@theguywhoasked2957they are not. No admiral is beating a yonko 1v1. Full stop.
Does Franky the scientist himself really think that a Radical beam would work on Kizaru lmao?😂
He had to do something bro
Franky had a kurenai itachi moment
Brago glazes Akainu just as hard as KOL glazes shanks. Two sides to the same coin 😂
Brago is worse
@@holop100 his videos used to be about story and characters, now its all powerscaling, he didn't even give time to robot waking up and other foreshadowing..
lol true
@@niks660097 Yeah bro it's low key sad
This was a good chapter but what move me was none of the action. It was the story going on with the celestial dragons running out of food. The the possible connection between Akainu & Kuma along with his obvious former friendship with Dragon. Kizaru feeling a type of way about the people he hurting.
What does them running out of food matter its just a minor inconvenience
@@TheWildCard2kYes its just a minor inconvenience so far but it shows the blockade the revolutionary army set up is starting to have its intended effect. For now they are only out of lobster but that will only get worse and as the celestial dragons have said this is the first time anything like this has happened. The fact that Oda just mentioned the lobster for now was twofold, both showing how self absorbed the C.D are that they are more incensed at the loss of complete freedom of choice more so than the immediate threat they are facing, while also progressing the revolutionary armies storyline for the inevitable conflict in Mary Geoise.
@@UndeadGaryThank you very much for explaining that perfectly in detail. Also add on to the fact this is unprecedented time period of the total damage along with the food supplies in the holy land. I remember Doflamingo throne war speech. He said those celestial dragons will be pulled down from their high horse. Slowly but surely we are seeing that. Also I felt like Akainu was sorta talking about his position while talking about Kuma. He is tired of being on a leash for those ignorant & arrogant celestial dragons. He ready to take action and in a sense they are holding him back.
@FireAngelChris No problem, thanks for the kind praise, and I agree with everything you added. I'm really interested in seeing the culmination of Kuma's storyline and what impact that might have on Akainus character. Can't wait for the next chapter!
@@UndeadGary I am feening to see the backstory because I have a feeling that Dragon & Akainu were close to best friends at time now turn to bitter enemies more so Akainu feeling betrayed by Dragon. So I think personally Akainu know Kuma as well maybe from the times when Kuma was a king of the divert kingdom. Maybe he was charge of a mission do destroy the kingdom or something during my Kuma reigns.
You missed the most craziest part of this chapter
One piece is not on a break next week...
How can someone miss it these days 😩😩😩
Chapters like this are to be expected, when everyone has a 3 billion bounty
Kizaru really acting like the man that volunteered to solo Big Mom and Kaido.
man. idk whats up with these new readers addicted to scaling. all cuz content creators stake their reputation on claims of admirals and yonkos being however strong
@@letsgobrandon1906scaling is only good for understanding parts of the story
His cheeks would've gotten clapped by 2 yonko lol
I kinda feel like Akainu was talking about himself when he was talking to Kuma.
So what if Kuma’s mind is in the Ancient Robot? And Kuma’s body now has the programming of the Ancient Robot, that’s why he is climbing the Red Line just like the Robot did 200 years ago….
U nighta just spoiled wit that one
He’s probably in the serphim
🤦🏾♂
bro if this is true...
Brah that might be it you know !!!
Luffy gon go into to giant mode and toss the ship 😂 I can feel
Still think admirals are weak?
Still weaker than a yonkou except buggy
@@badasslevizoro3799yall more clowniish than buggy if yall think that
@@BigCyanno
Admiras are weaker
You're overestimating Admirals
@@nosaidemudia7020 bro the whole point of the admirals are to balance out the yonkos. It would make no sense for them to br weaker
@@nosaidemudia7020Akainu is on the same level as Shanks minimum
And best part about all this, is that WE ARE NOT GETTING A BREAK NEXT WEEK
17:10 dont know the concept of “both”
Kizaru’s hit sure hurt him, but luffy SAID he thought the barrier was gonna kill him
I don't want to discredit Kizaru as he is my favorite admiral, but it is true that Luffy didn't even mention his kick or the dmg it did (That isn't to say it didn't do much) but he did feel the need to bring up the effects of this barrier. Also, was that barrier not designed to kill whoever went through it? So the fact he tanked it twice, plus the kick from Kizaru is quite impressive.
The barrier is literally based on Kizaru's power so it doesn't really make a difference
@@windwaker01lol I mean it does make a difference
Didn't kaku survive the barrier too? It's just a basic anime/manga thing, "if you do this it'll kill you" which means the exact opposite will happen
@@whopratiksinghHe survived, but he didn't come even close to passing through it. It's not the same.
Kizaru kicked bonnie through the barrier too. Unless you want to argue bonnie was vaporized from it then it's being blown out of proportion. Kizaru needed luffy out of the equation so he could complete his mission. A fight between the two would be extremely drawn out.
Imo i think we at the point of the story where no top tier is stronger in each stat than another and is just overwhelming in one stat, for Big mom is difficult but i guess base defence Kaido is strength or durability, Kizaru is obv speed, akainu probably destructive power, Shanks CoC, Kuzan is a ? since he can box but has large scale attks, Luffy is versatility bb is having offscreen powers and Mihawk is probs obv. this is just my theory i feel like each opponent will allow luffy to improve something specific rather than straight power ups which just happened majorly in wano
That whole sequence with Bonney getting kicked and sent flying is hilarious also coupled by Frankie trying to use radical beam on kizaru lmao.
so brago is extra mad this chapter i see
Wait why would I be mad?
Why do you think he was mad? I think he felt validated about the Admirals being strong, due to him being one of the people in the community that understand that the Admirals are strong.
@@nicholasalexander9866and weaker than all the yonkou
@@ewag8950depends
@ewag8950 if you still think big mom could keep up with Kizaru we don't know what to tell. He would give all yonko a run for his money wake up.
O and Buggy would defeat him as well then 😅
Dogs bend their heads sideways proving he got that dawg in him
I'm sure someone like KOL will cook up some trivial excuse
I feel like Akainu failed to finish Kuma on purpose to follow him and find out what his mission is
The amount of COPIUM and disbelief the community is displaying right now is some of the funniest reactions i've seen in this fandom's history, and from the looks of it, IT MIGHT GET WORSE NEXT WEEK LMFAAAOOO, oohh it feels great
You're gassing up a kick you seem more on copium
@@Mrbeard.. brother, people were saying these dudes were fodder compared to yonkou for YEARS, shit like they are as strong as comanders and stuff like that, it's like Brago said, now people are playing stupid and moving the goal post lmao, Oda is proving a lot of extremists wrong and it's funny as all hell, of course i'm gonna gass that, i had to listen to an unhealthy amount of shit takes for like 5 years +, i'm feeling good rn don't worry about it brother lmaooo
@cakes1166 The double standards against the Admirals have always been ridiculous. You can see the kind of disrespect they've been dealing with for over a half a decade even in here on TH-cam. You have videos of people like King of Lightning saying that Katakuri would beat Kizaru 6 years ago, for example.
Admirals arent pirates, they work best with a team. 1v1 I think they lose to a yonko. I think Akainu can pput up a much better fight then the others, but the regular admirals should woorks together to deafeat a yonko. But in no way are they fodder. I think luffy wins this, but the admrial gets away without too much damage.
@@lordfrz9339 Never understood where this narrative that Admirals work best with a team came from. They work solo majority of the time, and they're only ever sent out solo anyway.
Kizaru arguably put up a better fight against Whitebeard than Akainu. We already know how Akainu & Aokiji went as well...so why would Akainu alone be able to put up a "much better fight?"
2 Admirals is just overkill for anyone.
Whoever fights akainu either have scars, lose a limb or dies, he's insane!
How died other than a regular marine from akainu?
@@awesomeavis7861WB.... he had 2 big holes and half his face off. You think some guns from BB crew killed him LMAO.
@@awesomeavis7861 wb was definitely dying because of the hole on his chest and half of his brain gone, akainu killed him just let it go
@@Axki so what I’m reading is BB killed him, thanks for providing my point
@@ChuckleTubee WB already knew the moment he went off his meds he was going to die how you gonna claim the guy that got clapped, ran away and waited for WB to get finished by someone else before returning to the fight was the one to kill him?
He read over the Luffy grabbing Kizaru part so quickly 😂
The agenda is crazy
He also had no reaction to the giant waking up.
Lol when the live happened it took him about 20mins just to read one page because he kept hyping up the Admiral's. He paused the chapter at Kizarus kick for mad long even his members were telling him to get back and finish the chapter, but then literally has no reaction for what Luffy did to Kizaru at the end 😂
@@Nestle245 loll, it's the agenda 😂
That infinite solar energy from Luffy Gear 5 woke that Robot up!! 😮
Now that Luffy has gone G5, this is prime time for Oda to show the 1st onscreen Logia awakening with Kizaru🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
The way things started off, if Luffy already went G5 and kizaru has been taking it easy, a pika pika awakening would probably defeat luffy
@@SteelSquishynotice how there is a power scale every time-skip? Pre time-skip, Luffy could match the power of a warlord. Post time-skip + the extra training in the Wano prison, Luffy had enough power to defeat a Yonko. We could possibly get one more short time-skip so Luffy can train to match Fleet Admiral/King Title power scale (Akainu, Blackbeard, Shanks, Mihawk, Holy Knights, Gorosei, Imu)
@@C1K450he had to jump kaido so I can’t put him above him, 1v1 vs kizaru so far . Buts it’s straw hats they still might jump 😂😂
@@lyricistproductions2174so you say that kizaru would withstand/win against a full stamina kaido
@@erinwalker_tv I’m saying he wouldn’t
I think Kizu has mid observation but can make up for it with his light speed. Which is why he’s able to block and dodge Luffys black mamba
Am I tripping? When did the conversation become "The Admirals are Strong". Didnt we literally always know this?
It seems like people in the community didn't since a good amount of them believed that Luffy would beat Kizaru in base. Not to mention they believed Kizaru would be fighting Zoro since "he isn't on Luffy level". And Luffy was going to fight Saturn, people downplay the admiral's strength hard.
Clearly top comment doesn't know the one piece community very well. Just search yonkou vs admirals and you'll get all the info u need.
@@tsfocus8317also because when luffy kicked him people were going crazy saying they were weak
@@tsfocus8317 I hope Saturn gets 1 shot, hes the science man, not a knight.
@@charles9489 exactly lmao xD it was literally everywhere
I enjoy coming here and watching this every week cuz I don't really have people to talk to about my beloved one piece so it's nice to be part of the community
Kuma vs Akainu is not a fight i would hve expected
It was not a fight it was an over kill😢
Akainu did look like he was holding back since there was celestial dragons near him
Did The light barrier hurt luffy more than admiral kizarus attack?
Yup
The laser is what truly hurt Luffy. The kick was powerful enough to send him great distract but even Luffy stated it lol
Yeh, he said… he have to hurt himself twice to get
Through the shield
Yeah Luffy said he was only hurt and was gonna die from passing through the barrier twice
Kaku went through it and was fine
War Thunder is like One Piece: We're here for the action, but we're staying for the state secrets.
Akainu's second feat!
His first one was getting beat up by a dying old man😂.
You can’t read it’s ok
@@BragoDAce Lmaooo
Honestly tf are u trying to say with this comment?
no it actually was to have condamned this old man life and remove half of his head .
Nah he beat an Admiral in a fair 1v1.
Literally the best feat in the manga apart from Luffy beating Kaido 1v1.
I think we are really missing a huge piece of info under our noses with Kuma, why exactly is he "the Tyrant"? Was he a Tyrant before he met Dragon and started the revolutionary army? Was he a Tyrant when Bonnie was born?
I know Oda is gonna give us something juicy when Kuma and Bonney meet again, and it's going to have us in awe of some storyline we forgot about.
I reckon its probably bs propaganda, like Robin being 'the devil child'
After this chapter I never want to hear this Sanji versus Kizaru hogwash anymore. Admiral stocks are up!! Gear 4 Luffy was sent packing
Lets all pretend like Marineford never happened. It's not like Kizaru and Akainu have hurt WB before.
Corpsebeard was being wounded by fodder lol. A bullet to the brain would kill him.
@@sarthakarora3212fodder 😭 white beard was explicitly shown to have aside from luffy THE MOST endurance I mean oda made it a point to say the exact amount of times he was shot & stabbed none of the admirals would survive being hit by all those attacks + white beard couldn’t go all out due to the nature of his devil fruit not everyone is gonna have kaido/big mom invulnerability of course he would be hurt by bullets/weapons especially when haki wasn’t fully established 😭
@@sarthakarora3212he was dying and could barely use haki and wb at that point was weaker than shanks and kaido and big mom the novel stated that so and look at what he did akainu
All this and Saturn didn’t even make a move yet…. Egghead ark is something else.
Yonko = Admiral
Uhh no what're y'all smoking?
Ben Beckman >= Admirals
@@premmandavkar2242 nice headcannon, ben beckman couldn't do shit against kizaru.
@@kreddit9480 yeah and kizaru ran away from him after Ben removed his gun point😂
@@premmandavkar2242 Tf u talking about, did you even read the manga? Kizaru never ran and Ben never removed his gunpoint. Kizaru just never cared about that and continued attacking laws ship (which he was trying to do earlier but ben stopped him temporarely), ben even said with a concerned face ''Aw damn'' implying he failed miserably at stopping kizaru.
3:22 maybe they've already been deployed to engage the Revolutionary Army off screen? That would explain why even the Fleet Admiral himself shows up, seems like all the chaos in the world has stretched the World Govt's forces too thin. Although this is just a thought, for all we know Oda might finally reveal the God Knights next chapter
Anyone that thinks Admirals can't fight Yonko is dumb. Then entire balance of power is that the three Admirals together are on par with a Yonko. That's why Kaido and Big Mom teaming up was catastrophic news for the Admirals, since the balance of power relies on each Yonko working alone. We saw this in Marineford too. The Marines held their own against a single Yonko and their fleet, but once a second one pulled up they had no choice but to let the pirates leave.
So imo an Admiral fighting a Yonko is no different from a yonko commander fighting an Admiral. They can hold their own for a while, but the chances of them winning are pretty much non-existent.
Nope. The balance of power is that the Navy & Warlords counter the 4 Yonko. Even after Kaido & Big Mom teamed up, they were still seeking the Ancient Weapons because they were not enough to deal with them just by themselves.
In Marineford, the Navy with some of their top tiers doing little or nothing (like Garp & Sengoku), others disappearing at convenient times (the Admirals), and the Warlords on their side doing little crushed the WB Pirates...despite them getting help from basically half the Warlords with Luffy's Impel Down group. And the Navy didn't have a single casualty among their top fighters, with only 1 Admiral being injured, but still fighting the remaining WB Commanders and winning.
The pirates would have been wiped out without Luffy's help. The only reason that Sengoku stopped the war was because of his respect for Shanks as well, hence his words: "only because it is you, Red Hair." That just shows if any one else showed up, he would have just continued to wipe them out.
Any top tier has a chance of winning against another, whether Admiral or Yonko. That's why they're considered the top opponents for becoming Pirate King in the first place, including by the MC himself.
@@MetakJesu07you are talking no sense and the guy has a point
The balance is with one emperor ... admirals has no chance of beating 1 emperor in fair 1 vs 1
@@SamriKhalil How? Did you think that half a Supernova crew was equal to a Yonko crew because only half the Strawhats went to WCI, destroyed Big Mom's entire base and took out a couple of her Commanders?
That's what is nonsense. Trying to pretend that just because the Navy wanted to use overwhelming force against the WB pirates that they could only deal with a single Yonko.
Just a portion of the Warlords formed a Yonko crew...and yet you're claiming that the entire Navy on top of that and the remaining Warlords is only balancing 1 Emperor? That's just plain stupidity if we're gonna be frank.
What magic did you think stopped an Admiral from beating an Emperor in a 1 on 1?
The ancient robot woke up from the drums of liberation the more luffy uses gear 5 I think the louder his heart beat sounds especially when his desire to accomplish his goal I think when his was fighting lucci he was barley play fighting with lucci he just wanted to show lucci he had no chance with kizaru he has to be more serious with his ability idk if I'm right just what I'm thinking
I see from here on out the publics and WG's faith in the admirals might wane. All of the admirals have experienced setbacks recently. Green Bull and Fujitora failed to capture the Revo Army members, Akainu failed to capture Kuma, Kuzan is with Blackbeard and helped capture Garp and now Kizaru is having problems in Egghead and most likely won't accomplish everything he has set out to do. From here on out the admirals are going to have their backs against the wall but that is probably going to make them much more dangerous and bloodthirsty in the future.
He has no chance it’s over and I’m holding back no haki
War thunder the game where leaking top secret vehicle documents to prove a point has become the norm
The moment I saw the ancient robot and Vegapunk said it needed some kind of energy source to activate I immediately said that it needed Sun God Nika/JoyBoy powers to activate
The real thing we should be surprised about is Luffy grabbing Kizaru he’s light! lol
Admirals are strong but they are not stronger than shanks, Luffy and Blackbeard! They need at least 2 admirals to defeat one of them.
Ps: Please be good boy and don’t hate my personal opinion.
That's why Blackbeard ran away with his entire crew when Akainu pulled up lmao
He was just sparing Akainu, cause he's so nice.
@@devilsadvocate243ikr didn’t Blackbeard said himself akainu would beat them 😂 ?
@@devilsadvocate243and also why he was shitscared of Kuzan in the bar and didn't want to fight him. For the same reason 😅 those haters smh
This has forever been the dumbest argument in the OP community. Obviously if you are weaker than someone, more than one of you would be advantageous. This applies to anyone, not just Yonko and admirals.
So say Big Mom is weaker than Shanks (and most people would assume she is), wouldn't you technically need two Big Moms to win? 🤔
See how dumb that sounds? 😂
@@TheSukarilmao that’s actually a great point
yh oda been savin green bull🤣
I’m still not buying the Admirals hype besides Fleet Admiral Akainu. They are still beneath the Yonko. Watch these dudes (besides Akainu) get tossed around by Luffy, Shanks, Blackbeard, and Buggy (most likely Mihawk). Then that’s where you are going to see the Gorosei and Holy Knights step in and dismiss the Admirals for being weak, and you’ll see the shift between the marines and the upper chain of commands (besides Akainu of course). That is just my opinion though.
When the copium is too much😂😂
Cope
Tossed by buggy but only most likely Mihawk? You on the pipe? Mihawk potentially top 3 while Buggy just a b1tch.
Your opinion was always wrong it seems
If Saturn was actually strong, he’d go in and take care of business without needing a bodyguard that’s supposedly weaker than him to protect him. These frauds let Sabo escape their own territory when they had him outnumbered 6 to 1
Was one of the ancient robots reacting to luffys power?
As a huge Kizaru and Kuma fan, this was an incredible chapter to me, and this is arc is already in my top 3, alongside Sabaody and Marineford. Btw, I believe Kizaru might not be truly planning on killing Vegapunk, due to what he said when he flew away from the island. I think he has something else planned!
Brago, YOU ARE RIGHT. I've been saying this about the admirals for years! You CANNOT sleep on the admirals, especially the OG 3. Kizaru sent Luffy flying. Now yes, in a full-out battle Luffy would win, but it would not be low-diff. Kizaru is putting some hurting on him
This chapter was just pure Admiral agenda XD
Speed is indeed power, but you know what is more disgusting than speed? The power of imagination.
Kizaru's flashlight kick would have just tickled Kaido.
It's the second time Akainu does his headshot and I'm starting to think it does the opposite of oneshot 😂😂
Kizaru did absolutely no damage all he did was push him away and the barrier did the rest in my opinion but that’s not saying kizaru can’t do any damage if he tried
When Luffy grabs Admiral Kizaru in this chapter, it's like Tom grabs Jerry and you know what? ... Jerry always wins in the end, this is not a good sign for Luffy, on top of that Admiral Kizaru didn't even using his awakening yet while fighting everybody in Egghead ... Luffy only can fight in limited time in Gear 5 but Kizaru as an Admiral can fight for 10 days ... Luffy has destroyed Yonko Kaido but he's not ready for an Admiral ... Admirals season is hype AF and we love to see it 🥰
Every admiral chapter is a good chapter
Yeah, I hope Luffy gives Barcellino the fight of his life, defeat him, and escapes with the iron giant
Straw hats will go to the past, Robin is the one who writes the ponyglyphs
The only plans that work are plans they make off screen in any anime lol
Its adorable that brago clings to everything xD kizaru aint done shit a first commando couldnt
Not gonna lie, I don't get this Kizaru kick hype 👀. No hate on Admirals, but we just came off Kaido KOing Luffy MULTIPLE TIMES, and even killing him.
Kizaru kicks Luffy once, Luffy bounced back as he usually does, and that's seen as an impressive feat from Kizaru? 😂
I know Kizaru about to go crazy, but that wasn't a Kizaru W at all lol.
EDIT: Y'all Admiral meat 🥩 riders don't even comprehend what you're saying 😂. If Kizaru low diffs G4 Luffy, you're implying Kizaru >> Kaido, because not even Kaido can low diff a maxed out G4 Luffy. Until Kizaru kills, or AT LEAST KO's G4 Luffy, your viewpoint is invalid 🤦🏾♂️😂. Sending Lufy flying, Kaido done that s**t a billion times already, even to G5 Luffy lol, nothing special.
It is a W because at this point it takes certain levels of Haki and physical capabilities to even fight on par with Luffy.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 He kicked Luffy away.. bro Usopp blasted Luffy with an impact dial, Usopp is not equal to Luffy.
If Luffy knocking Kaido on his knees with Red Roc isn't "Luffy being on par with Kaido", then Kizaru simply kicking Luffy away isn't Kizaru being on par with Luffy.
The fight has just begun.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 We make exceptions for Kaido vs Luffy, and say Kaido was still above Luffy despite Luffy knocking Kaido down, splitting the sky with his clash, sending Kaido flying in base form.. but Kizaru does one kick and he's fighting on par with Luffy.
@@manofculture8666 I can tell you liked your own comment talking about impact dial for pre time skip Luffy……. THIS AINT NO DAMN PRE TIME SKIP LUFFY! After that I stopped reading because that non sense just shows your lack of objectivity
kaido koed a much weaker luffy
Kuma could in fact have a target within Mariejois, the same target Bonny now saw in his memories. He became a warlord and then removed his memories in order to infiltrate the holy land.
Bias admiral fans and bias yonko fans are so funny because both sides just take things out of context to push narratives😂😂😂
Facst didn't luffy kick him and they went crazy saying admirals were weak
@@BigCyanLol and after that they said Kizaru casually blocked advance conquers haki attack.
Akainu still under probation. He’s a civil servant. Idk how it work in one piece but in the city ( NYC) probation is a year tops
Aiokij vs garp kizaru vs luffy akainu vs Dragon 🤭
I honestly think that’ll be hype. It would fit with Garp being captured, Luffy either winning or escaping, with Dragon helping Kuma? Idk it would be hype to see. I definitely expect a clash
HOLY SHIT. I've said this before, but I always theorized that Luffy's secret goal is to find the world's biggest mecha robot lmaooo. This chapter I think is heavily foreshadowing that
Bda I hear you but I need Zoro vs Kitty boy next chapter
Brago is a admiral nuthugger yo. Look at ya boys face!!! luffy got that dude SHOOK.
The god knights are on the move
Oda does not disappoint, i love how he literally made kizaru at light speed, with the new animations online, kizaru would be so damn cool. Btw i dont think yonkos are stronger, but i think individually akainu would slam big mom, go extreme diff vs kaido or shanks (either one could win). Its debatable which is why one piece is fun
EVERY admiral got W untill SHANKS apears .smh
Except Akainu
@@BigCyan hope they will meet soon
Kizaru phased his leg around Bonney to kick her. Like how Kuzan did in Marineford
Here come the cheeks of liberation.
yknow, i was expecting Luffy to use Kizaru like a body washrag with how over the top people are describing the fight, turns out it wasn't even close like that lmao
i loved the panel of Akainu looking at the distance wondering how and why could a puppet like him try so hard to get to that place, it kinda gave me the vibe that he is seeing a bit of himself in Kuma
You just skip over luffy grabbing kizaru and using him as a toy
@@Killua3245 You reading two piece?
@@Killua3245 he grabbed him by surprise, big deal. Whitebeard snuck up on Akainu, got a free hit in, and got half of his head blown off moments later
@@Rujewitbloodhe grabbed by surprised a dude who allegedly has advanced observation haki and future sight combined to light speed. Where was all this haki when luffy was attacking? Same for akainu, where was this haki when whitebeard got behind him and took his sweet time to charge his attack?
@@docomega7862 nothings ever been stated about his haki, and even if he has it so what, it doesn't mean he's impossible to surprise. luffy has future sight did he not see himself getting sent flying through the barrier?
ngl u were being pretty toxic there :/
Not downplaying admirals = toxic apparently
THANK GOD, HE SHOULD BE
@@David-du4mj i just mean he did it in a disrespectful/toxic mannor. the content of the arguement isnt what im referring to
Nahhhhh, Luffy noticed when Kizaru entered the barrier, but Kizaru didn’t detect Luffy when the shoe was on the other foot
Kizaru's head not really in the fight, he's about to execute an old time friend
I love it when powerscalers, try to change what's literally said by character, by their own theory "I Crossed barrier twice, i thought it would kill me", what's so confusing about it, when luffy is literally saying "it" was barrier..
Kaido give Luffy a little taste on how hot it’ll be fighting akainu with that dragon magma mode.
I fucks with Kizaru he’s proven himself on multiple occasions by himself, Akainu on the other hand gets gassed heavy. And the only person I can think of that he beat solo and that was at 💯 was Aokiji.
No Bragg he been there 2 years 4 months he comfortable around the desk now ( fleet admiral )
Where does u guys read your manga at I need a good safe site. Also Luffy is into his Goku shit he won’t go all out right away he like to warm up and see what they got
kuma is like the seakings his emotions are in check bro lol
Luffy is actually being nerfed so far he isn't using any advanced form of his haki
The fact Luffy went through the barrier twice means he came back to Labophase before Vegapunk disabled it. This means Luffy was ready to come back, the only thing he's complaining about is that the barrier almost killed him because it burns so much. I dont think they'll fight for very long, but Kizaru is in for a surprise if he thinks Liffy is a pushover 😌 this is post-Wano Luffy, and my boy is ready to go