I would say that pogba was worth the money at the time when he went to Manchester United. At Juventus he was one of the best midfielders in the world, definitely didn’t live up to expectations
Atlético Madrid dropping 60M for Lemar and over 130M for Joao Felix is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen because Simeone was saying Atlético could not spend that much money due to their budget a while before that. Shit was hilarious lmao.
@@ass_eating_manCosta declined after that but at that point he was still a top player. Chelsea also spent more than that to get Morata so I don't think anyone won in the end.
you have to understand football has gotten more mainstream than before, some clubs make a lot of money. If they believe a payer can make up those wages either in shirt sales, performances etc. they will give him. Most likely they are WRONG @@YoungSimbaFootball
The algorithm knows me too well to have shown this video. I'm very much into football finance. A few things about the video; I believe you've used general inflation numbers as opposed to football specific inflation in the sale values. Football inflation had grown exponentially against normal inflation. Take Shearer moving for £15m to Newcastle years ago. Adjusted for football specific inflation he cost an equivalent of over £200m today. This doesn't disprove much of the video but I think you'd find the amount of big fees were never as rare as you'd think. That said it is the case that there is a rise in the amount of of big money sales with players moving at a level higher than what the market would have previously dictated. There are a few reasons for this. Neymar as mentioned was definitely a catalyst and contributed to an even faster rise in football specific inflation. Another is the people buying football clubs and their reason for doing so. It would be fair to say that in the 90's speculation on football revenue growth fuelled a growth in player sale values that revenue had to catch up with. And it mostly did (hence the galactico era not bankrupting Real Madrid). The millionaires of the time wanted to be involved in the growth and also "pedestal themselves" to local communities. This along with technology advanced the game to more of a global audience. Yesterday's millionaires simply paved the way for a market where today only Billionaires can take part. Today We are back in a new period where speculation has taken over and the game again needs to catch up with its own player values. I'm not saving whether it will or it won't, but for Me this is the case. Billionaires and even Nation states are speculating on the furtherance of the growth of the game vs typical/general growth/inflation. 1 difference is that the Billionaires care less about a rise in revenue and more about asset valuation. If a club can be bought for a a few hundred million or even a few billion, a billion spent on it and at the end it's worth 5 billion upwards, there are people who will try. Given other reasons they're being bought now such as "soft power", a simpler route into infrastructure and other commercial activity and community backing there is no reason to assume your benifits won't be seen by someone else. Another "problem" for player sale value increases are the very financial rules brought in to prevent it. Trying to over govern free markets always has such affects. You mentioned amortisation being a loophole. Ordinarily it's not and is a normal part of business. The issue is that financial rules are making it overly essential. A bubble has been created. I think it can be seen if looking hard enough in thr general market but it's so abundantly obvious in the youth player market - as you eluded to in the video. If you "swap" (buy and sell) two young players between 2 clubs simply to comply with rules for say £10m and spread their costs on the accounts over their contract period of 5 years at £2m, this year you make £8m. Next year your £2m worse off (if other spending remains the same) than you were last year. So if you attempt the same "trick", both clubs find themselves needing to deal at £12m. If players were not being traded simply to comply with rules such inflation would be happening (mostly) at market determined rates and not artificial ones. Another issue financial rules are creating is that they are stifling investment. They are protectionist tools protecting "legacy" clubs aimed at preventing another City or Chelsea. I mentioned earlier about Billionaires buying clubs. Many Billionaires by their very nature would believe themselves capable of buying a club and not just watching its value grow of its own accord but believe themselves capable of being successful with it on the field to help that process along and further it. With that ability essential having been taken away there will be less interested parties. The previous model would be to spend Ones own money on Ones own football club, get it winning and then revenue would increase to a point where the club was self sustainable at a higher level than it was previously (like City is today). Players moving for free at the end of their contracts has risen in occurance but this has happened before too. I believe this shows a coming to the end of the "speculation period" I mentioned previously. No One seems to be prepared to start moving into the £200m - £300m player territory (though that time is inevitable One day in ordinary circumstances). The issue is that We can't be sure if this end is natural or artificial because of the rules. It doesn't seem to be natural as there seems to be speculation elsewhere and average player values are continuing to rise because of the rules. If the financial rules continue to stifle growth and investment We may never get to the point where players move for upwards of £200m, but where all "average" players are valued at £100m and cycled around like cattle at basically set prices to conform with the rules. Sorry for length of comment, but this couldn't be done in a few lines. To sum up - It's my opinion - that most of what you had in the video was natural market periods but outside of that a bubble has been created by protectionist rules that makes what is happening now and what will happen harder to understand and predict. I believe things will get worse. Graphs go up and down, and try to catch up with One another but bubbles inevitably pop.
I'm interested to see what happens with Brighton, I think their model of using data to find underpriced stars could lead them to becoming a top 4 team sooner than we expect it.
Fun fact: Nicolas pepe was NOT a benchmark transfer. In fact, the owners of Arsenal and Lille were good friends, so he decided to "help" him by overpaying for a player
Thats just not how it works, there is a difference between teal world inflation and inflation in a particular sector or occupation. For eg an IT worker 50 years ago was worth 10$ maybe and now its 1000$. It doesnt mean the workers arent worth 1000$. Same goes for football, the sport grew very fast. The oil money created a hyperinflation in the sport. Stay in school kids. And for the young players price tag, its an investment, prime price of a player is always much more than when theyre out of form and thinking of retiring like griezman. Stay in school kids
2:59 de jong didnt worth the money he has done nothing to prove his price tag for barcelona i would add him to the players who were worth at the time but didnt live up to the expectations
Zlatan disappointed not because of his own ability , but because of personal problems with Pep and an overlapping of play style to Messi. He still had a (.7 goals per 90)stat line which is considered elite level.
Psg signing neymar broke the transfer market it’s impossible to buy a superstar only on a free also teams have way too much money than they know what to do with and no clear strategy which is why I think teams are willing to shell out for average players
Short note (.50 sec) your understanding of inflation is wrong, you have to calculate beckams fee with an additiinal 2/2,5% inflation rate per year untill today, then you will see what inflation reallly means beckam was a very expensive signing also in todays money😇
With all the money in the game, if Beckham and Kaka were still active, they'd move on a free like Mbappe for BUMPER money. Also, in no universe is Rice worth a £100m+
The Bundesliga as a whole is not overspending. Most of the Teams with the 50+1 Rule and without an owner are working their asses of to stay competitive. It´s Clubs Like Leipzig, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen which can spend unlimited amounts of mouney because they are backed by Gigantic Cooperations. And Bayern and Dortmund get too much money from th CL.
You buy a contract, not actually the player so if he got 4 years of control, he is 20 yo, playin in a big club, where he is a center piece and produces a lot, of course the price will be high. The release clause is not the real price of the player, its something clubs pay to avoid talking with the other club, it is a kind of voluntary overpay. Did Neymar worth 222M ? Never but PSG wanted him badely. Did Dembélé worth 150M when Barca bought him ? No and THAT was a dumb buy because obviously Bartomeu did not know the meaning of "release clause" and thought the market was broken but it's HIM who broke the market, not PSG (a little bit with Mbappé bc he had 1 year left but Mbappé was something else that time and very very young)
Man... Seeing delan rice and Kane being seen as "actually worth the money" is worrying af. They went from a club that achieved nothing into another club that also achieved nothing. Alright, Bayern underachieved last season, but they could have bought a young prospect and would still get the same result for less money lol
I don't think you choosed the best examples. Both Beckham and Kaká, specially the second one, were considered busts at Real Madrid. You can argue that Caicedo has played better for Chelsea than Beckham ever did for Real Madrid and Neto doesn't need a lot to do more than Kakà did a Real Madrid (he was really awful there).
It's not that complicated it's just basic economics same thing that happens with governments the more money the government makes and is circulated the more prices will increase
Prem teams or any team is a buisness. Without profitability they wouldn’t exist. I don’t know exactly what statistic of money you are measuring but there is just no way these big clubs in the top 5 leagues are losing money
If we ever went back to British-style football, the problem would be solved overnight. In a highly physical game, where 'superstars' are not protected by the referees, their value plummets. Nobody would pay astronomical prices for a star player who could be marked out of a match by an ordinary player, and who would be vulnerable to injury. In the British game, the 'superstar' wouldn't be allowed to flounce around the pitch with the ball at his feet. He'd be closed down instantly - and not gently..
Sure, let's slide tackle every player with great flair and ability right into the legs causing them to be out for three quarters of a season probably, all due too kamikaze defensive maneuvers
@@lebirb42 Why not?? There are two codes of rugby. Why not have two codes of football: traditional football and modern pvssified football. The moneymen won't allow separate codes. They love a monopoly. And they hate the uncertainty of hard intense competition - on the pitch or off it. British football was the greatest sport on the planet. It was inevitable that people with bad intentions would come along and destroy it. (If you've got something good, keep it secret, and enjoy it while you can.)
I think so, lowers how much they pay each year to the player but who would buy them from Chelsea. Most team wouldn’t want to pay the rest of a contract so big. Cole Palmer has got himself locked down there for 9 years. That’s crazy! 🤪
@@kolakoded Mason Mount was on that shortlist in 2021 all and he actually won trophies, caicedo has even been the better player, Rice is good but hasn’t justified anything
On Pepe, imma gonna say this: That transfer surrounding him is very dodgy af thanks to our former DoF, Don Raul Sanllehi. But yeah, I will admit he is overpaid. (Still better than Antony and Sancho in United but yeah... It sucks). And fun fact: Sanllehi used to work for Barca. Let that sink in for a second. Considering Barca is one of the clubs that trigger the inflation domino effect, I am not surprised. I also think Pogba's transfer also contribute to the inflation as well too to an extent even if at that time, I understand why Yanited paid that kind of money back in the day
Van Dijk is actually the player that spiked CBs prices. Maguire was just higher because of the English Tax
So Barcelona basically began all these nonsensical pricing fiasco???
Pretty much, Bartomeu ruined it on his own and ruined Barca financially while he was at it
khelifi started it 😂
It properly started with neymar then barca blew that money and then some
Some of yall forget what pogba did 💀
Also Chelsea will do it
@@YoungSimbaFootball why barca fault when psg that blow the transfer record
I would say that pogba was worth the money at the time when he went to Manchester United. At Juventus he was one of the best midfielders in the world, definitely didn’t live up to expectations
Hmm you're probably right, he was 22 when he left too so they were paying for potential but it just didn't work out
Atlético Madrid dropping 60M for Lemar and over 130M for Joao Felix is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen because Simeone was saying Atlético could not spend that much money due to their budget a while before that. Shit was hilarious lmao.
Guy was complaining about being broke then the club dropped 200m on mid. Football is too funny man
That's because they sold big before, I.e. felix bought for 120 mil griezmann left for 120 mil rodri sold for 80mil in the same summer
@@tlhonisenamela186 That doesn't matter, Simeone still ate his words because he was, and still is, playing the victim.
They rebought Diego costa for 58 million I think. Chelsea robbed them 😂😂
@@ass_eating_manCosta declined after that but at that point he was still a top player. Chelsea also spent more than that to get Morata so I don't think anyone won in the end.
Not to even mention wages
That could be a whole other video in itself, wage structures have gotten out of hand.
you have to understand football has gotten more mainstream than before, some clubs make a lot of money. If they believe a payer can make up those wages either in shirt sales, performances etc. they will give him. Most likely they are WRONG @@YoungSimbaFootball
Farda Wenger. The Grandwizard of football, they called him cheap but he knew what lay ahead. Amazing content again! 🎉🎉
Wenger knows the game, guy was too knowledgeable
@@YoungSimbaFootballbro, this is a super well made video and deep dive. Keep it up
Wenger is a genius
The quality of this video for a channel with so few subscribers is wild, keep this up and you will definitely have a top channel on your hands.
The algorithm knows me too well to have shown this video. I'm very much into football finance.
A few things about the video; I believe you've used general inflation numbers as opposed to football specific inflation in the sale values. Football inflation had grown exponentially against normal inflation.
Take Shearer moving for £15m to Newcastle years ago. Adjusted for football specific inflation he cost an equivalent of over £200m today.
This doesn't disprove much of the video but I think you'd find the amount of big fees were never as rare as you'd think.
That said it is the case that there is a rise in the amount of of big money sales with players moving at a level higher than what the market would have previously dictated.
There are a few reasons for this. Neymar as mentioned was definitely a catalyst and contributed to an even faster rise in football specific inflation.
Another is the people buying football clubs and their reason for doing so. It would be fair to say that in the 90's speculation on football revenue growth fuelled a growth in player sale values that revenue had to catch up with. And it mostly did (hence the galactico era not bankrupting Real Madrid).
The millionaires of the time wanted to be involved in the growth and also "pedestal themselves" to local communities. This along with technology advanced the game to more of a global audience. Yesterday's millionaires simply paved the way for a market where today only Billionaires can take part.
Today We are back in a new period where speculation has taken over and the game again needs to catch up with its own player values. I'm not saving whether it will or it won't, but for Me this is the case. Billionaires and even Nation states are speculating on the furtherance of the growth of the game vs typical/general growth/inflation.
1 difference is that the Billionaires care less about a rise in revenue and more about asset valuation. If a club can be bought for a a few hundred million or even a few billion, a billion spent on it and at the end it's worth 5 billion upwards, there are people who will try. Given other reasons they're being bought now such as "soft power", a simpler route into infrastructure and other commercial activity and community backing there is no reason to assume your benifits won't be seen by someone else.
Another "problem" for player sale value increases are the very financial rules brought in to prevent it. Trying to over govern free markets always has such affects.
You mentioned amortisation being a loophole. Ordinarily it's not and is a normal part of business. The issue is that financial rules are making it overly essential. A bubble has been created. I think it can be seen if looking hard enough in thr general market but it's so abundantly obvious in the youth player market - as you eluded to in the video.
If you "swap" (buy and sell) two young players between 2 clubs simply to comply with rules for say £10m and spread their costs on the accounts over their contract period of 5 years at £2m, this year you make £8m. Next year your £2m worse off (if other spending remains the same) than you were last year. So if you attempt the same "trick", both clubs find themselves needing to deal at £12m.
If players were not being traded simply to comply with rules such inflation would be happening (mostly) at market determined rates and not artificial ones.
Another issue financial rules are creating is that they are stifling investment. They are protectionist tools protecting "legacy" clubs aimed at preventing another City or Chelsea. I mentioned earlier about Billionaires buying clubs. Many Billionaires by their very nature would believe themselves capable of buying a club and not just watching its value grow of its own accord but believe themselves capable of being successful with it on the field to help that process along and further it.
With that ability essential having been taken away there will be less interested parties. The previous model would be to spend Ones own money on Ones own football club, get it winning and then revenue would increase to a point where the club was self sustainable at a higher level than it was previously (like City is today).
Players moving for free at the end of their contracts has risen in occurance but this has happened before too. I believe this shows a coming to the end of the "speculation period" I mentioned previously. No One seems to be prepared to start moving into the £200m - £300m player territory (though that time is inevitable One day in ordinary circumstances).
The issue is that We can't be sure if this end is natural or artificial because of the rules. It doesn't seem to be natural as there seems to be speculation elsewhere and average player values are continuing to rise because of the rules. If the financial rules continue to stifle growth and investment We may never get to the point where players move for upwards of £200m, but where all "average" players are valued at £100m and cycled around like cattle at basically set prices to conform with the rules.
Sorry for length of comment, but this couldn't be done in a few lines. To sum up - It's my opinion - that most of what you had in the video was natural market periods but outside of that a bubble has been created by protectionist rules that makes what is happening now and what will happen harder to understand and predict. I believe things will get worse. Graphs go up and down, and try to catch up with One another but bubbles inevitably pop.
And thinking about the fact that Messi doesn’t cost anything all his career is ridiculous
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comparing stats of cdm and cam is crazy work
I'm interested to see what happens with Brighton, I think their model of using data to find underpriced stars could lead them to becoming a top 4 team sooner than we expect it.
This is the secret best football channel
Appreciate it my man!
Fun fact: Nicolas pepe was NOT a benchmark transfer. In fact, the owners of Arsenal and Lille were good friends, so he decided to "help" him by overpaying for a player
And your response to an overpriced player is admitting to fraud?
Can't lie at the time pogba was worth 100m in 2016
Thats just not how it works, there is a difference between teal world inflation and inflation in a particular sector or occupation. For eg an IT worker 50 years ago was worth 10$ maybe and now its 1000$. It doesnt mean the workers arent worth 1000$. Same goes for football, the sport grew very fast. The oil money created a hyperinflation in the sport. Stay in school kids. And for the young players price tag, its an investment, prime price of a player is always much more than when theyre out of form and thinking of retiring like griezman. Stay in school kids
This guy deserves 100+k subs great video
you are soo underrated u deserve at the least 750k subs
love the video mate but you can’t compare a up in coming cdm to a attacking midfielder
Zidane would cost way more, his transfer cost at that time was over half of Real Madrid's revenue in that year
2:59 de jong didnt worth the money he has done nothing to prove his price tag for barcelona i would add him to the players who were worth at the time but didnt live up to the expectations
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Simba just elevated his game 🔥
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Zlatan disappointed not because of his own ability , but because of personal problems with Pep and an overlapping of play style to Messi. He still had a (.7 goals per 90)stat line which is considered elite level.
Good video Simba!
FFP is about preventing clubs from going bankrupt. It has nothing to do with transfer inflation (or competitive balance).
I agree with ur point but to be fair u just compared transfers by 2 clubs the (at least at the time) know how to do transfers with modern day Chelsea
Psg signing neymar broke the transfer market it’s impossible to buy a superstar only on a free also teams have way too much money than they know what to do with and no clear strategy which is why I think teams are willing to shell out for average players
Clubs will also try to sign players with incersingly longer contracts, like what Chelsea is doing rn
Crazy prices for mediocre players everywhere. But we already know that is all about marketing. So it's Ok
The nunez take is to hard for me. I think he is really good
amazing video
Short note (.50 sec) your understanding of inflation is wrong, you have to calculate beckams fee with an additiinal 2/2,5% inflation rate per year untill today, then you will see what inflation reallly means beckam was a very expensive signing also in todays money😇
Same for kaka example
Min 2. is how u do it🎉👌
With all the money in the game, if Beckham and Kaka were still active, they'd move on a free like Mbappe for BUMPER money. Also, in no universe is Rice worth a £100m+
I’ll trade saka for wirtz
Grealish does much more than provide a goal threat. Not everything is about who finishes the ball in that city team.
bro finally posted
The Bundesliga as a whole is not overspending. Most of the Teams with the 50+1 Rule and without an owner are working their asses of to stay competitive. It´s Clubs Like Leipzig, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen which can spend unlimited amounts of mouney because they are backed by Gigantic Cooperations. And Bayern and Dortmund get too much money from th CL.
You buy a contract, not actually the player so if he got 4 years of control, he is 20 yo, playin in a big club, where he is a center piece and produces a lot, of course the price will be high. The release clause is not the real price of the player, its something clubs pay to avoid talking with the other club, it is a kind of voluntary overpay. Did Neymar worth 222M ? Never but PSG wanted him badely. Did Dembélé worth 150M when Barca bought him ? No and THAT was a dumb buy because obviously Bartomeu did not know the meaning of "release clause" and thought the market was broken but it's HIM who broke the market, not PSG (a little bit with Mbappé bc he had 1 year left but Mbappé was something else that time and very very young)
I think now and days a computer program tells a president the worth of players
Man... Seeing delan rice and Kane being seen as "actually worth the money" is worrying af. They went from a club that achieved nothing into another club that also achieved nothing. Alright, Bayern underachieved last season, but they could have bought a young prospect and would still get the same result for less money lol
i disagree on gyokeres, hes worth the money, that guy is a beast, make a video on him, hes a prolific goalscorer
Chelsea is now use as case study aww
If Moises Caicedo costs around €134 million in today's market, i wonder how much Prime Messi and Prime Ronaldo would cost
11:24 nettspend mention‼️‼️
Real Madrid is now fixing the market, if ypu refuse to sell to them they will take your player for free
I don't think you choosed the best examples. Both Beckham and Kaká, specially the second one, were considered busts at Real Madrid. You can argue that Caicedo has played better for Chelsea than Beckham ever did for Real Madrid and Neto doesn't need a lot to do more than Kakà did a Real Madrid (he was really awful there).
this video completely ignores that
-there’s MARGINALLY more money in football now than 20 years ago
-inflation is insane
-player prices have increased
i can’t believe you said fdj was worth it
Rich people without brains buy clubs, and then buy players ...
I think clubs are abusing their players
It's not that complicated it's just basic economics same thing that happens with governments the more money the government makes and is circulated the more prices will increase
Danish football coach Ebbe Skovdahl said “ in football statistics are like mini skirts, they give you good ideas but hide the important things”
How do you compare a 6 with a 10? Chelsea and Man U are the worst examples.
Yeah rice has not lived up to his price tag at all.
Bro said caicedo isnt worth it , ok😂
Rice was not worth the price tag
Sancho wasn't sold to Chelsea he is there on loan
He's on a obligation to buy.
Basically, Chelsea have bought him but have him on loan because they don't have the funds to buy.
So barca destroyed the market and fucked off to there academy shit is mad
Prem teams or any team is a buisness. Without profitability they wouldn’t exist. I don’t know exactly what statistic of money you are measuring but there is just no way these big clubs in the top 5 leagues are losing money
3:45 but he didn't get to play because of Guardiola
Calling it now, Haaland will run out his contract with city & join Barcelona. No way in HELL they would afford his transfer fee lol.
Lol barce ....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What brokelona gonna pay him with 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547 brokelona haha, anyway you never know. Only time will tell.
I don't see how rice was worth the money of you're going off trophies won. Rice and caicedo are the same.
You didn't adjust for inflation 😂and what's Ur problem with Chelsea
De Jong wasn't worth the money
rice wasnt worth the money lbr
Number 35
If we ever went back to British-style football, the problem would be solved overnight. In a highly physical game, where 'superstars' are not protected by the referees, their value plummets. Nobody would pay astronomical prices for a star player who could be marked out of a match by an ordinary player, and who would be vulnerable to injury. In the British game, the 'superstar' wouldn't be allowed to flounce around the pitch with the ball at his feet. He'd be closed down instantly - and not gently..
There were plenty of superstars back in those days of British football😂
Sure, let's slide tackle every player with great flair and ability right into the legs causing them to be out for three quarters of a season probably, all due too kamikaze defensive maneuvers
@@lebirb42 Why not?? There are two codes of rugby. Why not have two codes of football: traditional football and modern pvssified football. The moneymen won't allow separate codes. They love a monopoly. And they hate the uncertainty of hard intense competition - on the pitch or off it.
British football was the greatest sport on the planet. It was inevitable that people with bad intentions would come along and destroy it. (If you've got something good, keep it secret, and enjoy it while you can.)
@@franciscojuarez6280spoke like a true hooligan
Hmm maybe this is why Chelsea are giving all their players 7 year + contracts 🤔 the athletic is calling for you y.simbs
I think so, lowers how much they pay each year to the player but who would buy them from Chelsea. Most team wouldn’t want to pay the rest of a contract so big. Cole Palmer has got himself locked down there for 9 years. That’s crazy! 🤪
They might be onto something. The palmer deal was top notch. Other guys... we'll see
4:30 what has rice proven?😭
Balon D’or nominee don’t play
@@kolakoded Mason Mount was on that shortlist in 2021 all and he actually won trophies, caicedo has even been the better player, Rice is good but hasn’t justified anything
barbies now
So then y y'all saying it started cause of neymar it started cause of our stupid ass president at the time bartemeou
maybe you know your football but u have no clue about the inflation rate :)
Love how you brought up Grealish with the number of goals he scored. Showed that u never watch City play. 100% worth the money
Ronaldos move to Juve was not worth for 100 Mio
Basically in future we will get more fidget spinners
On Pepe, imma gonna say this: That transfer surrounding him is very dodgy af thanks to our former DoF, Don Raul Sanllehi. But yeah, I will admit he is overpaid. (Still better than Antony and Sancho in United but yeah... It sucks).
And fun fact: Sanllehi used to work for Barca. Let that sink in for a second. Considering Barca is one of the clubs that trigger the inflation domino effect, I am not surprised. I also think Pogba's transfer also contribute to the inflation as well too to an extent even if at that time, I understand why Yanited paid that kind of money back in the day