Since Kareem. Wemby is by far the best rookie of the 2000s. Even adjusting for pace of play and his minutes. I still think he beats out LeBron or Melo in production. And Wilt is the greatest rookie ever. It’s not even close. Let’s be realistic. Even though some people may discredit his competition. Those were the best hoopers in the world. He was just that far beyond them.
Which rookie has had a bigger turnaround since Bird? The only one that comes close all-time that I can think of is Kareem. Edit: Was it Tim Duncan? Because that's cheating!
@@davidtuplin6628 that's a myth only 11th and 12th people on the bench need a offseason job most player mafe twice the amount of entire family's at the time just not the millions you see today
He can front load stats and awards and end up somewhere in the stat range of 90s hall of fame players….8 wild ones like this and a few solid ones could do it with a 14 year career.
More than anything else about his game, I love Wemby's mentality. The guy absorbs basketball knowledge like a sponge, is already making huge improvements to his game, and has a knack for playing big in crunch time. He even has that competitive fire intact despite his team's record, and is a team player. The only flaw in his personality is that he's french, but no one can be perfect I suppose.
@sticks5634 hate much? I hate lebron too buy this guy has a actual dedication to the game and don't flop and wants to win and be the greatest ever just like kobe or michael jordan mindset
I think the "hate" is more people getting tired of the hyperbole. There have been rookies that turned bad teams into instant contenders. There have been rookies that have won MVP of the whole league. Wembanyama is just nowhere hear that level. So far he's matched and surpassed the hype in terms of projecting him to be a generational talent. But if we're talking this year alone, is Wembanyama a Top 30 player in the league? I don't think he is.
I've been saying all season - this is what a Kareem/Wilt-type prospect looks like in the 21st century. Wemby is even getting some of the Wilt foot-dragging...nobody roots for Goliath.
I think the growth in assists is the most underrated aspect. Since the all star game he is 3rd among assists for centers behind only Jokic and sabonis(4th if you count draymond as a center). He is literally 5th in career assists per game by centers, and if he just maintained the same average from the end of the season he would be 2nd all time by the end of next year. The eye test shows even more. Just watching the reads he makes is amazing and a lot of the potential assists are either swung for a different shot or a missed open shot.
I'm 55 and I certainly didn't experience Kareem's rookie season and I don't know the context of the time. Using statistics is a useful but not decisive distinction. It has been evident throughout the season that Popovic's objective has never been to use Wembanyama's skills to the best of his ability but rather has tried to give him a season of pure running-in while minimizing the risk of injury as much as possible also because It was clear right from the start that the goal is the next draft. In this sense, the impression left is more important than the numbers and if you really want to take a statistic into consideration, the fact that a player like him is the most efficient player of the season in step-back three-point shots, i.e. the play that defines the today's basketball era game more than any other, seems astonishing to me.
Great video as usual Jonny ! Even though I do agree with you on the fact that no player should win an individual award while his team simply sucks, but at the same time, records and teams rankings aside, Wemby is the best defender in the league rn.
@@thepugking319no, he needs to prove himself. It is not just watching him play, he needs accolades to back his case up. Imagine as of now no chip no other accomplishments and you say he is better than Giannis, Jokic, Robinson? He can have a case for the GOAT but he still needs to prove himself.
@@c99kfm You are right, its too early to say. However, assuming he continues to improve and doesnt get injured, the numbers he will be putting out alone are enough to put him in elite status. If he starts winning championships... Well, then he could potentially be the best ever.
@@finkelmana Its definetly not early to say, top 20-15 is a lock if he stays relatively healthy. The guy just averaged 21-11-4-4 as a rookie, like cmon now..
Different Era and More international players so ofc Wemby is a freak of nature with being like 7'3 with shooting, DPOY potential on the defensive side,and he can handle the ball. He is very hyped up player so lets see if he can have a healthy career
I genuinely think Spurs trying to tank for a top pick in the 2024 draft. While Alex Sarr is the first pick in the draft who is a great 2 way player and can recreate the twin tower duo and make it basically impossible to score at the rim, but someone like Reed Shepard does even better as while he might only be 6’4, he’s a menace on defence, shooting over 50% from the 3 point line and a outstanding playmaker which is Wembys perfect teammate to acquire. If Reed Shepard is drafted next year, we might see Spurs already in the playoffs within their Wembys 2nd year. I’m not a spurs fan but I want to see Wemby reach heights we’ve never seen so I want the best for him and same for Reed Shepard.
wilt wasnt really a "great great" defender in GSW. its after that when he became extremly good. During tbose 35-50ppg years he would just sit under opponents basket and wait for the ball to come to him...
I love how Wembanyama played this season and he was a defensive beast as well, but a being on a team with a losing record and there being a near equal defensive player (Gobert) that's on a team that is one of the best in the league and he is one of the main reasons, the award should go to Rudy Gobert.
I'll bring up Larry Bird, who had similar statistics while meaning worlds more to his team's W/L record improvement. Larry clearly was making a difference in that locker room, and that's what gives him the edge.
If he has longevity and stays productive, he'll be in the goat conversation for sure. It's mind-boggling to imagine how much potential he has to improve
I think Rudy deserves DPOTY, but I think it would be reasonable if Wemby won, part of his team defense being bad is just that it is completely horrendous in the minutes he doesn't play. They play like a top 5 defense while he is on the court. He is definitely not the best rookie ever, but all the clearly better ones like Kareem and Wilt were older. Kareem was 22, Wilt 23, and David Robinson 24. Basically, I think he has a pretty good case for the best prospect ever and is so good he is in the unenviable position where if he is "only" the 10th best player ever that would be disappointing. His goal should not be to be as good as Steph Curry, or Hakeem, his goal with his physical gifts should be to end the LeBron, MJ debate, by making it a debate for 2nd. Not only did he just maybe have the best 20 year old season ever (him, Shaq, or Bron), but of those he improved the fastest within that season by far, and has the most room to improve his game and get better, and he seemingly has a vastly better mentality than Shaq.
I will never understand why the spurs never made a trade for veteran pg like cp3 or lowry for wemby rookie season that team needs a veteran in the locker room to guide the young players
Only health problems will keep this guy from being top 10 -- and with good health, top 5 is entirely possible. He should absolutely be in the top 10 rookie seasons discussion, though.
Should he be? Russell, Chamberlain, Bellamy, Balyor, Robertson, Hayes, Kareem, Unseld, Bird, Magic, Jordan, Robinson, Shaq, Duncan, Lebron. There have been a lot of incredible rookie campaigns. Especially in the days when players went to college for a few years before joining the league.
are we acting as if Wilton Norman Chamberlain, Walter Jones Bellamy (most underrated and underappreciated player not named Bob Lanier), and Oscar Palmer Robertson don’t exist? …..k
In Rudy's previous DPOY wins, I was of the opinion that he got a lot of credit that should be attributed to teammates like Joe Ingles and Bojan, and had personally picked a different winner each time. I'm not the biggest Rudy fan in general, but this year, as much as I'd like to remain biased, I think he's pretty clearly deserving of the award.
The greatest rookie ever(not stats wise)was Earvin"Magic"Johnson who took over Center duties in a pivotal game 6 of the NBA Finals because Kareem was out due to a severely sprained ankle. At the 76er's homecourt(The Spectrum)Magic scored 42 points, had 15 rebounds, and 7 assists, & took home the NBA Finals MVP trophy🏆for helping the Lakers win the title in only his rookie season!!!
I posted this in another comment thread, but I think it is worth posting here as well. Wemby vs. Kareem is closer than you made it out to be, especially considering that Wemby played many fewer minutes and took more 3s (Kareem couldn't even take 3s in the 70's). These are some of their advanced individual stats (vs. advanced stats that team success influences, like Win Shares), which factor in minutes played and 3-pointers: ____________________________________ Box score stats per 36 minutes (note, blocks and steals were not tracked until Kareem's 5th season in 1973-1974, so those stats are FROM HIS 5TH YEAR): - Wemby: 26.0 pts, 12.9 reb, 4.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 4.3 blk, 2.6 pf, 53.4 2P%, 79.6 FT%, 32.5 3P% on 6.7 attempts - Kareem: 24.1 pts, 12.1 reb, 3.4 ast, 1.1 stl (5th year), 2.9 blk (5th year), 2.9 pf, 51.8 2P%, 65.3 FT%, NA 3P% ____________________________________ Box score stats per 100 possesions (this time, per 100 possession stats were not tracked at all until Kareem's 5th year): - Wemby: 34.3 pts, 17.0 reb, 6.2 ast, 2.0 stl, 5.7 blk, 3.4 pf, 53.4 2P%, 79.6 FT%, 32.5 3P% on 8.9 attempts - Kareem (in 5th year): 28.1 pts, 15.1 reb, 5.0 ast, 1.4 stl, 3.6 blk, 3.1 pf, 51.8 2P%, 65.3 FT%, NA 3P% ____________________________________ True shooting percentage: - Wemby: 56.5% - Kareem: 55.2% ____________________________________ Effective Field Goal Percentage: - Wemby: 51.9% - Kareem: 51.8% ____________________________________ PER: - Wemby: 23.1 - Kareem: 22.5 ____________________________________ Offensive Box Plus-Minus (again, Box Plus-Minus stats were not tracked until Kareem's 5th year in 1973-1974, so these are his 5th year stats): - Wemby: 1.9 - Kareem (in 5th year): 5.0 ____________________________________ Defensive Box Plus-Minus (again, these are Kareem's 5th year stats): - Wemby: 3.3 - Kareem (in 5th year): 2.5 ____________________________________ Box Plus-Minus (again, these are Kareem's 5th year stats): - Wemby: 5.2 - Kareem (in 5th year): 7.5 ____________________________________ Wemby didn't have to play as many minutes (and offense is easier now), which means he was less winded and could play more efficiently, but still, the comparison is incredibly close. However, defense is harder, so his defensive stats are even more impressive. Moreover, you can argue his stats would be even better if his teammates actually passed him the d*mn ball.
@@owensmith2137 bro played against firemen & eletricians, go watch those games & tell me thats elite basketball, wilt in 2024 would just be another big lil bro, we done worshiping those inflated bs eras
I think the fact that they are not a playoff team is a big minus. There are rookies who contribute so much to their team that they earn the greatest rookie title: Larry Bird. Bird and Magic also transformed the entire league. There are other rookies who transformed the game. Wilt Chamberlain began by smashing records and continued to break records that stand to this day. Rules were changed to make it more difficult for Wilt to score. If defensive players were better acknowledged during Wilt’s era, there would be DPOY awards and accolades for Wilt. Thanks Jonny ❤
Barring any injury webenyama will go down as a top 5 player of all time. He breaks the game in a similar fashion as steph, has the right mindset to get better, and looks hungry for the competition. He might become the most dominant player over shaq. I believe that one of the biggest reasons for the spurs losing is chemistry and not playing wemby more
With Wemby on the floor they were like top 3 defence, maybe even #1, with him off they were dead last. Can’t tell me THAT amount of impact shouldn’t automatically make him the best defender in the league. And it’s defensive PLAYER, not defensive TEAM of the year. I’m a firm believer that for things like dpoy, mvp, basically any of the trophies that are individual awards, how good a team overall is should matter very, very little of at all.
Rookie Kareem had better numbers and secured a better record, but rookie Kareem also played *43 minutes* a game and was given the keys every night. I don't understand how the Spurs were supposed to go from a bottom lottery team to a playoff team just by drafting one guy and playing him on a minutes restriction. The rest of these rookies were given the green light earlier than Vic.
All I'll say as a nuggets fan is that im glad we got ours before this freak of nature got in the league. Im im hoping we can get one or two more before he gets teamates
Great video, Jonny! Wemby is amazing and I'm excited to see what the future holds for him. He's had an incredible rookie season. I really like the historical comparisons you gave. Like you, I don't think he's the greatest rookie either, but he is definitely up there as having one of the best rookie seasons of all time. I agree with you that he shouldn't win DPOY this year for the same reasons you gave. Hopefully, the Spurs will be better next season. I'm excited to see Wemby's improvement though. He has a very high ceiling. Have a great rest of the week! Take care :).
I understand the argument against him not winning DPOY over Rudy, per se, if and only IF you view the award as a 'defensive MVP' award (which I think is openly up for interpretation by the voters and media/fans). I personally see if more as who was the most impactful defender - and my argument is that you can still be the best defender in the league even if you're on a terrible team. It doesn't make sense to me to penalize the one guy who actually seems to give a shit in SA right now (yea, pop, I'm looking at you) bc of his team / front office incompetency. Switch Rudy and Victor and I guarantee the wolves are a better defensive team.
Wemby didn’t have a point guard for part of the year, and he was playing out of position, on a minute restriction. The team was tanking all year. Look at the end of the year where the spurs second team beat the champs. He also has a lot more bags then creamer and wilt. 🎉
Wemby is an amazing player already and he’s only going to get better! He should be ROY and DPOY coz he’s a once in a lifetime franchise player you build around! He won’t get these awards coz his teams record of 21-61 will be the determining factor! If San Antonio pairs him with a solid superstar, the Spurs Dynasty will be reborn! He needs to build himself stronger and hopefully doesn’t have any type of career ending injuries!
Both Robinson and Duncan played much longer in games. Both were significantly older too. Adjust for minutes and Wembys close if not better than them. I mean. Duncan averaged worse totals in 39 mpg. I mean. David Robsinson averaged 24, 12, 2, 1.7 and 3.9 in 36.6 mpg. Wemby averages 21.4, 10.6, 3.9, 1.2 and 3.6 in 29.7 mpg. See how insane the time.m difference is? Per 36 Victor averages 26, 12.9, 4.7, 1.5 and 4.3. Victors prpbably the best Spurs rookie ever.
@@awesomereviews1561 Yeah Robinson was still good, All Star caliber if I remember right. But not the MVP caliber player he was before the injuries. Even other guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Wes Unseld, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson to name a few had absolutely monster rookie seasons compared to Wemby's. I'm not saying he sucks or anything like that dude's great and is going to be at the top of the league assuming he stays healthy but he isn't the greatest rookie ever. Nobody coming into the league these days at 18 to 19 still developing is going to do what guys with 4 years of college(Magic is the exception here) and fully grown bodies walking into the league as an immediate top 5-10 player and leading them to the playoffs immediately, win MVP or Finals MVP.
@@samraizshoaib585 Those adjustments to minutes would also be negated by today's increase in pace of play. Also, Wemby's 45% FG are a little worrisome. Robinson finished near the top in FG% his rookie year. Robinson was top ten in 5 or 6 different categories his rookie year. None of this is taking away from Wemby. He's a great talent who had a great rookie season. It just wasn't as good or impactful as Robinson's.
Wemby is almost certainly not going to fill out like Giannis, but he doesn't need to. With his frame and playstyle, he should take a lot of cues from Kareem's career and one of the main ones is to fill out his trunk and lower body strength to be harder to throw around by larger, stronger bigs. Beyond that, getting a little stronger in his upper body won't hurt but doesn't seem to matter a ton given how much of his game is about finesse and fluidity. He's humiliating people nightly at his current physique so I don't think he needs to transform himself into a ripped Giannis type to become an all-time superstar.
We are looking at history here. I truly believe Victor Wembanyama will be one of the top 10 best playes of all time if he doesn't get injured. His potential is unmatched
The NBA is not a purely Basketball game anymore, it is blended with Business Earnings, Political Correctness, International Pressures. It would make good marketing for Wemby to WIn the DPOY and it won't even be a far stretch that many would disagree vehemently. So with some confidence I think he will win it.
Wemby's on the court with the team defensive rating on the court in his since January and Wemby's off the court the worst team defence. That said it all. Wemby is the DPOTY
He might be best rookie since Kareem. That minutes restriction really gives him an edge over lot of other players. But idk Magics rookie year was good too. But injuries is the only thing that could stop him from being a top 10 all time player. Both the eye test and the stats clearly show it. If you can’t see that then your just blind
Wemby is the best blocker of the league and one one the most skilled defenser. But because he cannot "infuse" on his teamates like gobert do I will give the DPOY to Rudy. But Wemby is a close 2nd
Spurs still have the same record this year as they had last year when they were tanking for Wemby, so I cant put him in the greatest rookie camp. Maybe the greatest 20 year old though, although Lebron was 27/7/7 and led his team to 42 wins at 20yo. But he doesn't compare to rookies like MJ, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Kareem and probably a few more Im not thinking of. They were 21-22 yo coming into the league and had more developed games/bodies as rookies, and also impacted winning immediately for their new team. But he is still unbelievable to watch play defense.
@@samraizshoaib585 Well, Wemby isn't trying to tank, and the greatest rookie ever should have enough impact to halt a tank job, that's why tanking teams sit their good young players at end of year
Does anyone here know that Wemby does NOT control his playing minutes or his coach’s decisions both of which impact a team’s record?? Geesh, think some things through for God’s sake. How you gonna fault him for things he can’t control????
KD only won 20 games as a rookie despite the supersonics winning 30 games the year prior. KD is considered one of the best one and done prospects in NBA history and he could not improve his team. Its only so much 1 player can do when the majoroity of their roster is made up of g-league players. Put Lebron on a g-league team and see how many wins he will give them not many. When Lebron got drafted by the Cavs that was a veteran team that had vets on their team Spurs have none.
I have wemby in a 2k association I play vs my homie, and in a bad game and a loss last night I got 30, 20, 9, 3 and 3 (in 8 minute quarters). Dude's busted. Homie hates that I have him. All I can say is it's not my fault MJ is 7'4
His team had the same record as the year before? Larry legend over doubled his teams? Dropped 21 pt on 47% shooting and 40% from 3 ,10 rebounds and 1.7 steals He lead his team in pts rebounds and steals
I know he’s a rookie but you can’t compare him to Kareem or Wilt they were both 22 years old not 19 like Wemby. Let’s see what happens in three years from now. Wow.
I gotta say this. Victor trained with literal NBA players before he even came into the league. Lebron didn’t. I feel like Wemby got a boost that a lot of other phenomenal rookies didn’t get. Imagine if they did though. It’d be a different story. On top of that he’s a big man so rebounds are going to be automatic. I wouldn’t say greatest rookie of all time, but amazing season though and he deserves Roty and Dpoy.
If Wemby puts the work in he'll be in the GOAT debate and is only thr third player in my estimation since MJ to have a really good chance at that, Bron and Shaq being the first two.
@@silvianosanchez8430 You call me a child but you're the one making mom jokes lol the irony is crazy. Anyways, i don''t care if you think there are 10 better rookies than Wemby (even though there aren't), it's more so you saying that he isn't a winning player but you fail to realize why the spurs record hasn't improved
He's rightfully getting hyped up. As long as he stays healthy he's going to be one of the best for a long time but best rookie ever? No, too much over hyping in that regard and the Spurs being terrible despite his fantastic play should immediately disqualify him from that particular discussion.
I don't think he's DPOY yet but definitely top 5. And i think he top 5-10 rookies ever but i also have someone like Duncan over him for rookie seasons. He has ABSURDLY high potential tho
Jaden McDaniels, Anthony Edwards, NAW, Conley, Reid and Anderson have all played great defense this year helping Gobert. They are still a great defensive team without Gobert, and Wemby doesn’t have all that help 🤷🏽♂️
no Wemby ain't no Lou Alcinder or Wilt Chamberlain but his presence remidns me on Wilt but he ain't everage 40-50 points so Wemby is maybe on his way but stats ain't lying
It looks to me like you and others think that DPOY somehow means Most valuable defensive player of the year... That's the difference right there between MVP and DPOY: the most VALUABLE (to his team) player has to make his team win (possibly by being great both on offense and defense), while the best defensive player only has to be the best defensive player. By definition it's not a team award. Look at it this way: if the defense is great but the offense sucks, you might very well lose a lot. It basically means that to be a DPOY according to your standards, you have to be a major offensive contributor as well, which is nonsensical. To be DPOY, you don't have to make your team win, you have to make its defense great.
All i can say is that Wemby is the best defensive player in the league right now ... AS A ROOKIE... OK i get the argument for him not getting it but he is the best defensive player in the league right now .. AS A ROOKIE... it's not even close
One elite player can carry a team to success. Not champions, but success. Wemby and the spurs were terrible, intentionally or not. That hurts his case for DPotY and his argument for the greatest rookie season. Other rookies had similar seasons and succeeded in the playoffs (though with obviously better teammates). Wemby has the physical gifts to be an all-time great and carry a team the way the great players of the past have, but he's still very young. Still, if he's healthy and the Spurs pick up some more talent to place around him, he'll probably end his career with a fair few DPotY trophies and possibly many other accolades as well.
Fill in the blank…. Wemby is the BEST Rookie since ______
Ever LoL
Ossie Schectman in 1947. Solid 54 games for the up and coming New York Knickerbockers
Realistically, LeBron or Wilt most likely
Since Kareem. Wemby is by far the best rookie of the 2000s. Even adjusting for pace of play and his minutes. I still think he beats out LeBron or Melo in production. And Wilt is the greatest rookie ever. It’s not even close. Let’s be realistic. Even though some people may discredit his competition. Those were the best hoopers in the world. He was just that far beyond them.
The Admiral
Don't short change Larry Bird's rookie season:
21.3 PPG
10.4 RPG
4.5 APG
FG 47.4%
Wins added: +32, which was an NBA record at the time.
For sure. I think he was 4th or 3rd on my top 10 list
Which rookie has had a bigger turnaround since Bird? The only one that comes close all-time that I can think of is Kareem.
Edit: Was it Tim Duncan? Because that's cheating!
@@JonSmith-hk1bq It was Tim Duncan, and yeah it's deceiving considering that David Robinson missed the prior season.
he was playing with carpenters and plumbers back then
@@woootskieYeah, now they play against ballerinas, models, actors and typists.
The "tougher era" argument actually works both ways. It is much harder for Victor to be an elite defender in this era when the rules favor offense.
Just a reminder, Wilt won the rookie of the year AND the MVP awards at the same season! 😉🥇🏆
Same with Wes Unseld
There were only 8 teams and most guys needed 2nd jobs
magic won finals mvp in his rookie season
@@dillamadukes21 Sadly for him, Larry Bird won the rookie of the year award. 🏀
@@davidtuplin6628 that's a myth only 11th and 12th people on the bench need a offseason job most player mafe twice the amount of entire family's at the time just not the millions you see today
Wemby has the skills to be a top 10 of all time. I wouldn't put money on it though because the risk of an injury shortened career is just too high.
But if he does not get injured or not often, he definitely has the skills and physical gifts for an all time great career.
you misspelled top 1
He can front load stats and awards and end up somewhere in the stat range of 90s hall of fame players….8 wild ones like this and a few solid ones could do it with a 14 year career.
Top 75 maybe
What does this mean can you see into the future
You really think he’s better than Anthony Bennett?! I’m unsubscribing.
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As you should. Just a horrendous oversight on my part 😭
He’s not better then Anthony Bennett no way
*_"WOAH!!"_* - Bill Simmons
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More than anything else about his game, I love Wemby's mentality. The guy absorbs basketball knowledge like a sponge, is already making huge improvements to his game, and has a knack for playing big in crunch time. He even has that competitive fire intact despite his team's record, and is a team player. The only flaw in his personality is that he's french, but no one can be perfect I suppose.
Wtf didnt expect to find you here
People hate on this dude so much. Hes. An unbelievable player. He definitely is that. And then some
@sticks5634 hate much? I hate lebron too buy this guy has a actual dedication to the game and don't flop and wants to win and be the greatest ever just like kobe or michael jordan mindset
He makes many NBA players seem average. He has it all
I think the "hate" is more people getting tired of the hyperbole. There have been rookies that turned bad teams into instant contenders. There have been rookies that have won MVP of the whole league. Wembanyama is just nowhere hear that level.
So far he's matched and surpassed the hype in terms of projecting him to be a generational talent. But if we're talking this year alone, is Wembanyama a Top 30 player in the league? I don't think he is.
I don't see him getting much hate at all. Every player gets hate but Wemby is one of the most well-liked players.
I've been saying all season - this is what a Kareem/Wilt-type prospect looks like in the 21st century.
Wemby is even getting some of the Wilt foot-dragging...nobody roots for Goliath.
"nobody roots for Goliath" 💯
Neither was 7’4”+
Wemby better
@@Biscuitsgravy924 neither was a twig either and had paint skills
I think the growth in assists is the most underrated aspect. Since the all star game he is 3rd among assists for centers behind only Jokic and sabonis(4th if you count draymond as a center). He is literally 5th in career assists per game by centers, and if he just maintained the same average from the end of the season he would be 2nd all time by the end of next year. The eye test shows even more. Just watching the reads he makes is amazing and a lot of the potential assists are either swung for a different shot or a missed open shot.
I'm 55 and I certainly didn't experience Kareem's rookie season and I don't know the context of the time.
Using statistics is a useful but not decisive distinction.
It has been evident throughout the season that Popovic's objective has never been to use Wembanyama's skills to the best of his ability but rather has tried to give him a season of pure running-in while minimizing the risk of injury as much as possible also because It was clear right from the start that the goal is the next draft.
In this sense, the impression left is more important than the numbers and if you really want to take a statistic into consideration, the fact that a player like him is the most efficient player of the season in step-back three-point shots, i.e. the play that defines the today's basketball era game more than any other, seems astonishing to me.
It’s crazy that you can call his first 35 games bad. That just shows how historical he has been since. His first 35 is still phenomenal for a rookie
Great video as usual Jonny ! Even though I do agree with you on the fact that no player should win an individual award while his team simply sucks, but at the same time, records and teams rankings aside, Wemby is the best defender in the league rn.
Wemby will end up in the goat debate if he doesn't get a career ending injury before he can get there
Well, he's certainly headed for a strong position in the top-25 all-time, anything beyond that is a bit early to say IMHO.
@@c99kfmtop 15-10 imo
@@thepugking319no, he needs to prove himself. It is not just watching him play, he needs accolades to back his case up. Imagine as of now no chip no other accomplishments and you say he is better than Giannis, Jokic, Robinson? He can have a case for the GOAT but he still needs to prove himself.
@@c99kfm You are right, its too early to say. However, assuming he continues to improve and doesnt get injured, the numbers he will be putting out alone are enough to put him in elite status. If he starts winning championships... Well, then he could potentially be the best ever.
@@finkelmana Its definetly not early to say, top 20-15 is a lock if he stays relatively healthy. The guy just averaged 21-11-4-4 as a rookie, like cmon now..
Different Era and More international players so ofc Wemby is a freak of nature with being like 7'3 with shooting, DPOY potential on the defensive side,and he can handle the ball. He is very hyped up player so lets see if he can have a healthy career
Jordan came in totally dominating and left the game totally dominating
Its the best player I've ever see in my life. If he is still healthy, he will be the Wilt of XXI Century
If Victor Wembenyama develops a consistent Skyhook OMG
He might beat Lebron record for most points scored
He should contact Kareem if he adds that shot it's all over with
Wemby's Skyhook would be more like a Spacehook
@@jonnuanez7183i love that
I genuinely think Spurs trying to tank for a top pick in the 2024 draft. While Alex Sarr is the first pick in the draft who is a great 2 way player and can recreate the twin tower duo and make it basically impossible to score at the rim, but someone like Reed Shepard does even better as while he might only be 6’4, he’s a menace on defence, shooting over 50% from the 3 point line and a outstanding playmaker which is Wembys perfect teammate to acquire.
If Reed Shepard is drafted next year, we might see Spurs already in the playoffs within their Wembys 2nd year. I’m not a spurs fan but I want to see Wemby reach heights we’ve never seen so I want the best for him and same for Reed Shepard.
Yea they tanking to me.
I just hope he can stay healthy 🙏. I would love to see him reaching his top potential and where it takes him. Basketball needs that.
Great content as always. 🇧🇬
Not the greatest rookie, but a damn good one
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That's more accurate
he has only 20. lebron had 19 in his rookie year. he's the only one who is better than Victor at the same age.
@@ffjdmarco what about Wilt Chamberlain kareem and wes unseld
Wilt was the greatest rookie. VW may be the best defensive rookie ever.
Wilt might have a word or two to say about him being the best defensive rookie ever.
wilt wasnt really a "great great" defender in GSW. its after that when he became extremly good. During tbose 35-50ppg years he would just sit under opponents basket and wait for the ball to come to him...
If blocks were recorded back then wilt and russell would have 20 block games the quadruple double records would be all wilts
Wilt was built for basketball. VW just might be built just as well. The fact that he is putting on muscle is reassuring.
Wilt played against plumbers and carpenters
I love how Wembanyama played this season and he was a defensive beast as well, but a being on a team with a losing record and there being a near equal defensive player (Gobert) that's on a team that is one of the best in the league and he is one of the main reasons, the award should go to Rudy Gobert.
So you think an individual award should be predicated on team achievement? I don't think you know what these words mean.
I'll bring up Larry Bird, who had similar statistics while meaning worlds more to his team's W/L record improvement.
Larry clearly was making a difference in that locker room, and that's what gives him the edge.
True, but the Celtics had a far better team around him
@@owensmith2137couldn’t have since they won 27 games before he was drafted. Then they won 60+
@@owensmith2137 I agree, like imagine wemby on the modern equivalent of the pre bird celtics lol
@@cnothegoat23 True, but they overall team was improving as well. Bird was certainly the bus driver.
Oh stop this right here. He had a much better team. Much much better relative to their era and competition.
Who knows what the future will bring for Wemby. I just hope he stays healthy, as he is fun to watch play.
If he has longevity and stays productive, he'll be in the goat conversation for sure. It's mind-boggling to imagine how much potential he has to improve
I think Rudy deserves DPOTY, but I think it would be reasonable if Wemby won, part of his team defense being bad is just that it is completely horrendous in the minutes he doesn't play. They play like a top 5 defense while he is on the court.
He is definitely not the best rookie ever, but all the clearly better ones like Kareem and Wilt were older. Kareem was 22, Wilt 23, and David Robinson 24.
Basically, I think he has a pretty good case for the best prospect ever and is so good he is in the unenviable position where if he is "only" the 10th best player ever that would be disappointing. His goal should not be to be as good as Steph Curry, or Hakeem, his goal with his physical gifts should be to end the LeBron, MJ debate, by making it a debate for 2nd.
Not only did he just maybe have the best 20 year old season ever (him, Shaq, or Bron), but of those he improved the fastest within that season by far, and has the most room to improve his game and get better, and he seemingly has a vastly better mentality than Shaq.
I will never understand why the spurs never made a trade for veteran pg like cp3 or lowry for wemby rookie season that team needs a veteran in the locker room to guide the young players
They tanking. It’s above your understanding
Next year
Only health problems will keep this guy from being top 10 -- and with good health, top 5 is entirely possible.
He should absolutely be in the top 10 rookie seasons discussion, though.
Should he be? Russell, Chamberlain, Bellamy, Balyor, Robertson, Hayes, Kareem, Unseld, Bird, Magic, Jordan, Robinson, Shaq, Duncan, Lebron.
There have been a lot of incredible rookie campaigns. Especially in the days when players went to college for a few years before joining the league.
bro if hes getting muscle and gets a giannis build its fucking OVER
He's not getting a Giannis build.
If he just fills out the way Kareem did, he’ll be awesome.
are we acting as if Wilton Norman Chamberlain, Walter Jones Bellamy (most underrated and underappreciated player not named Bob Lanier), and Oscar Palmer Robertson don’t exist? …..k
Preach!!!
prime minister ass names
Yeah plumber's woo hoo
U notice lots of TH-camrs say Modern Era ball so can't add those players
Wow all Hall of famers 👍
In Rudy's previous DPOY wins, I was of the opinion that he got a lot of credit that should be attributed to teammates like Joe Ingles and Bojan, and had personally picked a different winner each time. I'm not the biggest Rudy fan in general, but this year, as much as I'd like to remain biased, I think he's pretty clearly deserving of the award.
Not over Wembanyama
I have never liked basketball. I don't watch basketball. Yet I can't stop watching Wenby highlights. WoW! Greatest human event made!
The greatest rookie ever(not stats wise)was Earvin"Magic"Johnson who took over Center duties in a pivotal game 6 of the NBA Finals because Kareem was out due to a severely sprained ankle. At the 76er's homecourt(The Spectrum)Magic scored 42 points, had 15 rebounds, and 7 assists, & took home the NBA Finals MVP trophy🏆for helping the Lakers win the title in only his rookie season!!!
I posted this in another comment thread, but I think it is worth posting here as well. Wemby vs. Kareem is closer than you made it out to be, especially considering that Wemby played many fewer minutes and took more 3s (Kareem couldn't even take 3s in the 70's). These are some of their advanced individual stats (vs. advanced stats that team success influences, like Win Shares), which factor in minutes played and 3-pointers:
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Box score stats per 36 minutes (note, blocks and steals were not tracked until Kareem's 5th season in 1973-1974, so those stats are FROM HIS 5TH YEAR):
- Wemby: 26.0 pts, 12.9 reb, 4.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 4.3 blk, 2.6 pf, 53.4 2P%, 79.6 FT%, 32.5 3P% on 6.7 attempts
- Kareem: 24.1 pts, 12.1 reb, 3.4 ast, 1.1 stl (5th year), 2.9 blk (5th year), 2.9 pf, 51.8 2P%, 65.3 FT%, NA 3P%
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Box score stats per 100 possesions (this time, per 100 possession stats were not tracked at all until Kareem's 5th year):
- Wemby: 34.3 pts, 17.0 reb, 6.2 ast, 2.0 stl, 5.7 blk, 3.4 pf, 53.4 2P%, 79.6 FT%, 32.5 3P% on 8.9 attempts
- Kareem (in 5th year): 28.1 pts, 15.1 reb, 5.0 ast, 1.4 stl, 3.6 blk, 3.1 pf, 51.8 2P%, 65.3 FT%, NA 3P%
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True shooting percentage:
- Wemby: 56.5%
- Kareem: 55.2%
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Effective Field Goal Percentage:
- Wemby: 51.9%
- Kareem: 51.8%
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PER:
- Wemby: 23.1
- Kareem: 22.5
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Offensive Box Plus-Minus (again, Box Plus-Minus stats were not tracked until Kareem's 5th year in 1973-1974, so these are his 5th year stats):
- Wemby: 1.9
- Kareem (in 5th year): 5.0
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Defensive Box Plus-Minus (again, these are Kareem's 5th year stats):
- Wemby: 3.3
- Kareem (in 5th year): 2.5
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Box Plus-Minus (again, these are Kareem's 5th year stats):
- Wemby: 5.2
- Kareem (in 5th year): 7.5
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Wemby didn't have to play as many minutes (and offense is easier now), which means he was less winded and could play more efficiently, but still, the comparison is incredibly close. However, defense is harder, so his defensive stats are even more impressive. Moreover, you can argue his stats would be even better if his teammates actually passed him the d*mn ball.
Best rookie season is Wilt followed by Wes Unseld (both won MVPs).
Don't forget Magic winning finals MVP as a rookie.
@@milanbarac5832Russell would have likely have won as well
💀💀 wilt not even top 3 rookies
@@Ytndarren What'chu drinking
@@owensmith2137 bro played against firemen & eletricians, go watch those games & tell me thats elite basketball, wilt in 2024 would just be another big lil bro, we done worshiping those inflated bs eras
I think the fact that they are not a playoff team is a big minus. There are rookies who contribute so much to their team that they earn the greatest rookie title: Larry Bird. Bird and Magic also transformed the entire league. There are other rookies who transformed the game. Wilt Chamberlain began by smashing records and continued to break records that stand to this day. Rules were changed to make it more difficult for Wilt to score. If defensive players were better acknowledged during Wilt’s era, there would be DPOY awards and accolades for Wilt. Thanks Jonny ❤
Barring any injury webenyama will go down as a top 5 player of all time. He breaks the game in a similar fashion as steph, has the right mindset to get better, and looks hungry for the competition. He might become the most dominant player over shaq. I believe that one of the biggest reasons for the spurs losing is chemistry and not playing wemby more
With Wemby on the floor they were like top 3 defence, maybe even #1, with him off they were dead last. Can’t tell me THAT amount of impact shouldn’t automatically make him the best defender in the league.
And it’s defensive PLAYER, not defensive TEAM of the year. I’m a firm believer that for things like dpoy, mvp, basically any of the trophies that are individual awards, how good a team overall is should matter very, very little of at all.
Rookie Kareem had better numbers and secured a better record, but rookie Kareem also played *43 minutes* a game and was given the keys every night. I don't understand how the Spurs were supposed to go from a bottom lottery team to a playoff team just by drafting one guy and playing him on a minutes restriction. The rest of these rookies were given the green light earlier than Vic.
So you saying Kareem and wilt were more nba ready and the shape they came in was more ready to be trusted to plsy longer minutes is the difference?
IMO, it was a calculated tank this year
All I'll say as a nuggets fan is that im glad we got ours before this freak of nature got in the league. Im im hoping we can get one or two more before he gets teamates
Personally, I’m really excited to watch him in the playoffs in these upcoming years
Great video, Jonny! Wemby is amazing and I'm excited to see what the future holds for him. He's had an incredible rookie season. I really like the historical comparisons you gave. Like you, I don't think he's the greatest rookie either, but he is definitely up there as having one of the best rookie seasons of all time.
I agree with you that he shouldn't win DPOY this year for the same reasons you gave. Hopefully, the Spurs will be better next season. I'm excited to see Wemby's improvement though. He has a very high ceiling.
Have a great rest of the week! Take care :).
I understand the argument against him not winning DPOY over Rudy, per se, if and only IF you view the award as a 'defensive MVP' award (which I think is openly up for interpretation by the voters and media/fans). I personally see if more as who was the most impactful defender - and my argument is that you can still be the best defender in the league even if you're on a terrible team. It doesn't make sense to me to penalize the one guy who actually seems to give a shit in SA right now (yea, pop, I'm looking at you) bc of his team / front office incompetency. Switch Rudy and Victor and I guarantee the wolves are a better defensive team.
Wemby didn’t have a point guard for part of the year, and he was playing out of position, on a minute restriction. The team was tanking all year. Look at the end of the year where the spurs second team beat the champs. He also has a lot more bags then creamer and wilt. 🎉
Would you make a video about Gortat screen ?
Wemby is an amazing player already and he’s only going to get better! He should be ROY and DPOY coz he’s a once in a lifetime franchise player you build around! He won’t get these awards coz his teams record of 21-61 will be the determining factor! If San Antonio pairs him with a solid superstar, the Spurs Dynasty will be reborn! He needs to build himself stronger and hopefully doesn’t have any type of career ending injuries!
no even the best rookie season as a Spur, David Robinson had a much better rookie season than Wemby
David Robinson per 36 minute stats as a rookie
24ppg 12rebs 2 assists 4blks
WEMBY PER 36 MINUTE STATS as a rookie
26ppg 13rebs 5assists 5blks 👽
80%ft
Not even the best Spurs rookie. David Robinson had a better rookie year, and instantly made the Spurs a playoff team.
Tim Duncan made the All Star game and All NBA 1st team as a rookie too so not second best for his franchise either.
@@CrazyxEnigmaBut Duncan had Robinson with him.
Both Robinson and Duncan played much longer in games. Both were significantly older too. Adjust for minutes and Wembys close if not better than them. I mean. Duncan averaged worse totals in 39 mpg.
I mean. David Robsinson averaged 24, 12, 2, 1.7 and 3.9 in 36.6 mpg.
Wemby averages 21.4, 10.6, 3.9, 1.2 and 3.6 in 29.7 mpg.
See how insane the time.m difference is? Per 36 Victor averages 26, 12.9, 4.7, 1.5 and 4.3. Victors prpbably the best Spurs rookie ever.
@@awesomereviews1561 Yeah Robinson was still good, All Star caliber if I remember right. But not the MVP caliber player he was before the injuries. Even other guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Wes Unseld, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson to name a few had absolutely monster rookie seasons compared to Wemby's. I'm not saying he sucks or anything like that dude's great and is going to be at the top of the league assuming he stays healthy but he isn't the greatest rookie ever.
Nobody coming into the league these days at 18 to 19 still developing is going to do what guys with 4 years of college(Magic is the exception here) and fully grown bodies walking into the league as an immediate top 5-10 player and leading them to the playoffs immediately, win MVP or Finals MVP.
@@samraizshoaib585 Those adjustments to minutes would also be negated by today's increase in pace of play. Also, Wemby's 45% FG are a little worrisome. Robinson finished near the top in FG% his rookie year. Robinson was top ten in 5 or 6 different categories his rookie year. None of this is taking away from Wemby. He's a great talent who had a great rookie season. It just wasn't as good or impactful as Robinson's.
As the season went on, he got cartoonishly good and he is already putting on weight.
He my DPOY
Maybe spurs were tanking but main win is wemby made it through his first season still healthy that's huge
Greatest rookie, Magic Johnson. Won finals MVP and closed out game 6 as a rookie. Nothing has been done as a rookie better than that.
Wemby is almost certainly not going to fill out like Giannis, but he doesn't need to. With his frame and playstyle, he should take a lot of cues from Kareem's career and one of the main ones is to fill out his trunk and lower body strength to be harder to throw around by larger, stronger bigs. Beyond that, getting a little stronger in his upper body won't hurt but doesn't seem to matter a ton given how much of his game is about finesse and fluidity. He's humiliating people nightly at his current physique so I don't think he needs to transform himself into a ripped Giannis type to become an all-time superstar.
He's not. DRob, Jordan,Wilt, Kareem, Lebron, and Bird and Duncan were better. Season turnarounds do mean something. Not to mention the era.
We are looking at history here. I truly believe Victor Wembanyama will be one of the top 10 best playes of all time if he doesn't get injured. His potential is unmatched
Dream n Admiral n timmy n shaq had a better rookie season too
The best rookie season of all time Magic Johnson’s in 1980
Chet had the rookie season everyone thought wemby would have, and wemby had a rookie season was like a sustained version of game 1 MCW
Most hyped since Zion, let's be real. Zion had insane hype also.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar averaged 28.8 points, 14.5 rebounds and 4.1 assists in 82 games his rookie year. They didn't track blocks until his third year.
The top ten argument will continue to get harder and harder as time goes on. I’m already starting conversations about my lists too 15s or tiers!
GREATEST ROOKIE IN NBA 🏀 HISTORY: WILT CHAMBERLAIN .. THEN OSCAR ROBERTSON .. THEN WALT BELLAMY ..
^ this guy gets it
I’d take walt over Oscar due to defense
The NBA is not a purely Basketball game anymore, it is blended with Business Earnings, Political Correctness, International Pressures. It would make good marketing for Wemby to WIn the DPOY and it won't even be a far stretch that many would disagree vehemently. So with some confidence I think he will win it.
Greatest Rookie comparison is a bit unfair. Wemby was just 19, other greats like Tim Duncan, Kareem, MJ and so on were 2 or 3 years older.
Wemby's on the court with the team defensive rating on the court in his since January and Wemby's off the court the worst team defence. That said it all. Wemby is the DPOTY
U madr a really good point. Wilt will allawys be first. Kareem will probably allawys be second. But wemby has a top 5 case for best rookie ever
He might be best rookie since Kareem. That minutes restriction really gives him an edge over lot of other players. But idk Magics rookie year was good too.
But injuries is the only thing that could stop him from being a top 10 all time player. Both the eye test and the stats clearly show it. If you can’t see that then your just blind
Wemby is the best blocker of the league and one one the most skilled defenser. But because he cannot "infuse" on his teamates like gobert do I will give the DPOY to Rudy. But Wemby is a close 2nd
Spurs still have the same record this year as they had last year when they were tanking for Wemby, so I cant put him in the greatest rookie camp. Maybe the greatest 20 year old though, although Lebron was 27/7/7 and led his team to 42 wins at 20yo.
But he doesn't compare to rookies like MJ, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Kareem and probably a few more Im not thinking of. They were 21-22 yo coming into the league and had more developed games/bodies as rookies, and also impacted winning immediately for their new team.
But he is still unbelievable to watch play defense.
The Spurs are still tanking. They need to get Victor some help and they deem the draft their besy option.
@@samraizshoaib585 Well, Wemby isn't trying to tank, and the greatest rookie ever should have enough impact to halt a tank job, that's why tanking teams sit their good young players at end of year
Exactly. All time greats come in and usually almost double the amount of wins from previous year. With Wemby, Spurs did not improve at all.
Does anyone here know that Wemby does NOT control his playing minutes or his coach’s decisions both of which impact a team’s record?? Geesh, think some things through for God’s sake.
How you gonna fault him for things he can’t control????
KD only won 20 games as a rookie despite the supersonics winning 30 games the year prior. KD is considered one of the best one and done prospects in NBA history and he could not improve his team. Its only so much 1 player can do when the majoroity of their roster is made up of g-league players. Put Lebron on a g-league team and see how many wins he will give them not many. When Lebron got drafted by the Cavs that was a veteran team that had vets on their team Spurs have none.
I would be money on the fact that Kobe was not the one who came up with the "second place is just the first loser" line :D.
Never clicked on a video so fast
I have wemby in a 2k association I play vs my homie, and in a bad game and a loss last night I got 30, 20, 9, 3 and 3 (in 8 minute quarters). Dude's busted. Homie hates that I have him. All I can say is it's not my fault MJ is 7'4
His team had the same record as the year before?
Larry legend over doubled his teams?
Dropped 21 pt on 47% shooting and 40% from 3 ,10 rebounds and 1.7 steals
He lead his team in pts rebounds and steals
I know he’s a rookie but you can’t compare him to Kareem or Wilt they were both 22 years old not 19 like Wemby. Let’s see what happens in three years from now. Wow.
Arnett=Goat
I gotta say this. Victor trained with literal NBA players before he even came into the league. Lebron didn’t. I feel like Wemby got a boost that a lot of other phenomenal rookies didn’t get. Imagine if they did though. It’d be a different story. On top of that he’s a big man so rebounds are going to be automatic. I wouldn’t say greatest rookie of all time, but amazing season though and he deserves Roty and Dpoy.
1:49 showing first half of season where he still figure his game out
BPG: 3.1💀
If Wemby puts the work in he'll be in the GOAT debate and is only thr third player in my estimation since MJ to have a really good chance at that, Bron and Shaq being the first two.
There are at least 10 better rookie seasons than Wemby's. He was good, but he did not help his team win more games.
Such a braindead take that lacks any sort of nuance at all
@@sepharon755 , let me guess, you are a young know-it-all. Educate yourself and have some respect. Also, go ask your mom to changer your diaper.
@@silvianosanchez8430 You call me a child but you're the one making mom jokes lol the irony is crazy. Anyways, i don''t care if you think there are 10 better rookies than Wemby (even though there aren't), it's more so you saying that he isn't a winning player but you fail to realize why the spurs record hasn't improved
@@sepharon755 , if you didn't care, you wouldn't be so defensive. Grow up child.
He's rightfully getting hyped up. As long as he stays healthy he's going to be one of the best for a long time but best rookie ever? No, too much over hyping in that regard and the Spurs being terrible despite his fantastic play should immediately disqualify him from that particular discussion.
I don't think he's DPOY yet but definitely top 5. And i think he top 5-10 rookies ever but i also have someone like Duncan over him for rookie seasons. He has ABSURDLY high potential tho
Kareem played 4 years of college basketball and averaged 43 minutes his rookie year! 43 MINUTES!! It’s not an equal comparison.
Jaden McDaniels, Anthony Edwards, NAW, Conley, Reid and Anderson have all played great defense this year helping Gobert. They are still a great defensive team without Gobert, and Wemby doesn’t have all that help 🤷🏽♂️
DPOY is an individual award not a team one. I don't see the dilemma.
no Wemby ain't no Lou Alcinder or Wilt Chamberlain but his presence remidns me on Wilt but he ain't everage 40-50 points so Wemby is maybe on his way but stats ain't lying
You might as well give the dpoy trophy to Rudy’s teammates at this point.
I call Wemby Casual Giannis. It looks like he’s not even trying.
the only one ever to put up 20+ 10+ 3+ 3+ 3+ the best rookie ever and not even play 30 minutes
Pop is absolutely tanking. I have almost 0 doubt about it. The way they played with Wemby makes no sense
Wilt and MJ. But Wemby is damn good. I just hope it isn't Ralph Sampson again.
It looks to me like you and others think that DPOY somehow means Most valuable defensive player of the year...
That's the difference right there between MVP and DPOY: the most VALUABLE (to his team) player has to make his team win (possibly by being great both on offense and defense), while the best defensive player only has to be the best defensive player. By definition it's not a team award.
Look at it this way: if the defense is great but the offense sucks, you might very well lose a lot. It basically means that to be a DPOY according to your standards, you have to be a major offensive contributor as well, which is nonsensical. To be DPOY, you don't have to make your team win, you have to make its defense great.
I think Pop let the spurs lose because this is Wembys boot camp moment in the NBA. Start rough and end well.
All i can say is that Wemby is the best defensive player in the league right now ... AS A ROOKIE... OK i get the argument for him not getting it but he is the best defensive player in the league right now .. AS A ROOKIE... it's not even close
Kareem got those stats with 43 minutes a game though...
Wilt Chamberlain had one of the greatest rookie years ever
One elite player can carry a team to success. Not champions, but success. Wemby and the spurs were terrible, intentionally or not. That hurts his case for DPotY and his argument for the greatest rookie season. Other rookies had similar seasons and succeeded in the playoffs (though with obviously better teammates).
Wemby has the physical gifts to be an all-time great and carry a team the way the great players of the past have, but he's still very young. Still, if he's healthy and the Spurs pick up some more talent to place around him, he'll probably end his career with a fair few DPotY trophies and possibly many other accolades as well.
wemby has the potential to be the GOAT. Injuries are just too big of a factor for his size to make that potential a reality
@@d3va383 be quiet Bron stan