4:53 - so you can heel lock the shoe, just not in a traditional manner. What I did was skip the 2nd to last eyelet and go to the last one, then went back to the 2nd to last to make the loop so I could pass the laces through there. I thought this shoe was too loose for me until I did that.
I am also going to try this and failing this, another set of laces. I did wonder whether I needed a half size smaller but soon as I got running, they felt tyoo tight if anything up front so a half size smaller won't solve anything. The hell lock in this shoe is definitely an issue.
I am now sold on this shoe. Have been interested for a long time and people have suggested it to me, but the way you described it sounds exactly what I like and want.
Upon further review - still amazing, especially at faster stuff. True to size might work better than half size up without much heel padding to help lock down and no racers loops .
Loved the fact you put some time in , ran at different paces and reported on how it feels , not that different from the first one (especially the walking bit) deffo bring a old pair of throwaways to a major marathon. Ran a PB in New York in the first version (at my pace not that hard) , but I did .. and that shoe was underrated, in fact I was the only person I saw on the day with it on. I am not comfortable running sub-7's yet. I am working on both my weight and being coached with focus on the half for the fall / Autumn, If I make the same improvement this year that I did last (would make me as comfortable at 6:30's as I am currently at 7:30's) . Then I will hit the buy button on a full Mizuno rotation as I will do the shoe justice. on a side note I still have a box fresh pair of the originals in that Japanese calligraphy black and white colourway.
That’s so awesome JBs- just saw your comment on Ko’s recap with coaches. That’s solid advice I need to take as well. I have to go in as andrew or midlife runner but I likely can’t do both
Thanks for the heads up on deal on this shoe. Last week I got my pair delivered. I had run in TTS in a demo shoe and 1/2 up will also work with a bit more space in front of my toes. Tighten the laces so midfoot hold is great.
It makes me sad they don't make this in my size. Hopefully they won't change v3 too much and either fix the sizing issue or just make bigger sizes available. Great review as always, can't wait to see how your 5k goes 👍💪
Curious… have you tried the Mizuno below this one? Wave rebellion flash2 or the Saucony endorphin elites or saucony endorphin pros. I am torn between these shoes for marathon race day! 😭😅
@@greensamurai21 the flash two is a great companion to this shoe but 8.9 ounces in my size 9 so a bit heavy like a daily trainer. The endorphin pro 4 is great for 5k/10k type of work but does not roll well for me for marathon pace . Lastly, I have no tried the elite but I did hear they are a bit on the firm side if you like that
@@angelvargasvlogs great question. The Neo vista you can land more heel to mid foot and roll through. The rebellion pro 2 feels more mid to forefoot . The foam is less soft , although it’s still very soft and has more energy return. Thr faster I run, the more up on my toes I run, the more it pushes me aggressive because of the geometry. 📐
@@angelvargasvlogs that would definitely make it more accessible. Similar to the metaspeed edge Paris, I worry about mile 20-26 if my form breaks down . I don’t want the shoe to work against me
@@MidLifeRunner I saw a guy with the edgw on the half I did last Sunday (my first half by the way) and his little toe waa bleeding, well first he was using them for the first time there (big mistake) but makes me wonder if is really true to size or if is tooo narrow and you must go half of full size up
I got my 5k in a couple weeks, and got sucked into doing the Soldier Field 10k the next weekend. You mentioned going for sub 18, what is your current 5k PR? Good luck!
I’ve never run a 5k race- done some time trials early on, working it down from 22:35 ->21:15->20:18->19:35->18:57->18:10… however that was at the track and I didn’t have track mode, so maybe it was 18:30?? I’m trying to break 18 based on the feeling I can hold 5:45 for 3.12 miles. It will be challenging in the heat and humidity for the last mile but we I’m excited for the challenge . What’s your 5k PB? I am going to run a couple of 5ks and then a 10k
@@MidLifeRunner I broke 18:00 last year with a 17:50 during my first try last summer. Ran raster pace for another 5k but the course had a ton of frustrating as my watch pace was 5:40. If you have time, a few sauna sessions of 15-30 minutes will def help with acclimation.
4:53 - so you can heel lock the shoe, just not in a traditional manner. What I did was skip the 2nd to last eyelet and go to the last one, then went back to the 2nd to last to make the loop so I could pass the laces through there. I thought this shoe was too loose for me until I did that.
Brilliant - going to do this tomorrow
I am also going to try this and failing this, another set of laces. I did wonder whether I needed a half size smaller but soon as I got running, they felt tyoo tight if anything up front so a half size smaller won't solve anything. The hell lock in this shoe is definitely an issue.
I’m not 100% sure that was an SJD impersonation at 8:00, but if it was, you absolutely slayed it! Onward and upward!! Ok never mind I am 100% sure 😂
Can’t believe I didn’t catch it the first time around….guess it’s been too long since I’ve seen an SJD shoe review but that was spot on.
Half the kids he has so I might be half the man
I am now sold on this shoe. Have been interested for a long time and people have suggested it to me, but the way you described it sounds exactly what I like and want.
Upon further review - still amazing, especially at faster stuff. True to size might work better than half size up without much heel padding to help lock down and no racers loops .
Thanks, Andrew!
Thanks for making these videos. You are my favourite running youtuber.
Thank you, Kevin. I’m going to stash this comment away for a rainy day and read it again when I need to lift my spirit
Loved the fact you put some time in , ran at different paces and reported on how it feels , not that different from the first one (especially the walking bit) deffo bring a old pair of throwaways to a major marathon. Ran a PB in New York in the first version (at my pace not that hard) , but I did .. and that shoe was underrated, in fact I was the only person I saw on the day with it on. I am not comfortable running sub-7's yet. I am working on both my weight and being coached with focus on the half for the fall / Autumn, If I make the same improvement this year that I did last (would make me as comfortable at 6:30's as I am currently at 7:30's) . Then I will hit the buy button on a full Mizuno rotation as I will do the shoe justice. on a side note I still have a box fresh pair of the originals in that Japanese calligraphy black and white colourway.
That’s so awesome JBs- just saw your comment on Ko’s recap with coaches. That’s solid advice I need to take as well. I have to go in as andrew or midlife runner but I likely can’t do both
Really channeling the inner SJD 😂
Thanks for the heads up on deal on this shoe. Last week I got my pair delivered. I had run in TTS in a demo shoe and 1/2 up will also work with a bit more space in front of my toes. Tighten the laces so midfoot hold is great.
🙌🏼 hope you love them as much as I do
Got mine last week or so. Thanks for the hook up. Can't wait to get some miles on em as I ease back into work.
PB city! We gotta match when we catch that shake out down the road
@@MidLifeRunner fax... we definitely must!!!
Would really like to meet the person behind the idea of this shoe. Brilliant.
I am landing on the Speed bump like you in the V1 but it does seem to shred the outsole 😂
You are Great! Thanks a lot! Very Good review!!!
thank you!
This is my best race day shoes so far😊
I ran a 5k in it today and it was fantastic . I absolutely love it
It makes me sad they don't make this in my size. Hopefully they won't change v3 too much and either fix the sizing issue or just make bigger sizes available. Great review as always, can't wait to see how your 5k goes 👍💪
Thanks Chris ! I’m going to strap a GoPro to my forehead so I’ll share it with you
I have the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1 is perfect for me and I am a heel striker and slow runner.. It saves my calfs and Achilles tendon. V2 same..?
I haven’t tried v1 but the foam is very soft yet very responsive and bouncy too
Any tips for heel strikers? I have a pair. My ankles complain sometimes
I am a heel striker and slow runner but the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1 and V2 save my Achilles Tendon and low calf..
Curious… have you tried the Mizuno below this one? Wave rebellion flash2 or the Saucony endorphin elites or saucony endorphin pros. I am torn between these shoes for marathon race day! 😭😅
@@greensamurai21 the flash two is a great companion to this shoe but 8.9 ounces in my size 9 so a bit heavy like a daily trainer. The endorphin pro 4 is great for 5k/10k type of work but does not roll well for me for marathon pace . Lastly, I have no tried the elite but I did hear they are a bit on the firm side if you like that
how is the feeling if you compare it with the Neo Vista?
@@angelvargasvlogs great question. The Neo vista you can land more heel to mid foot and roll through. The rebellion pro 2 feels more mid to forefoot . The foam is less soft , although it’s still very soft and has more energy return. Thr faster I run, the more up on my toes I run, the more it pushes me aggressive because of the geometry. 📐
@@MidLifeRunner interesting, I just saw the new "Beta" and looks like the decrease the gap on the back a little bit to make it less aggresive.
@@angelvargasvlogs that would definitely make it more accessible. Similar to the metaspeed edge Paris, I worry about mile 20-26 if my form breaks down . I don’t want the shoe to work against me
@@MidLifeRunner I saw a guy with the edgw on the half I did last Sunday (my first half by the way) and his little toe waa bleeding, well first he was using them for the first time there (big mistake) but makes me wonder if is really true to size or if is tooo narrow and you must go half of full size up
That’s a good way to explain how a shoe feels, “disappears on MyFeet” 🤔. Interesting
It’s like it doesn’t even exist
That’s a metaphor (is it a metaphor?) that I've always used to describe the shoes I’ve loved the most.
Dallas area? Richardson maybe?
Where in running is San Antonio. Are you from Texas as well?
I have in laws there. Your video showed parks and paved pafhs that look like Richardson@MidLifeRunner
I got my 5k in a couple weeks, and got sucked into doing the Soldier Field 10k the next weekend. You mentioned going for sub 18, what is your current 5k PR? Good luck!
I’ve never run a 5k race- done some time trials early on, working it down from 22:35 ->21:15->20:18->19:35->18:57->18:10… however that was at the track and I didn’t have track mode, so maybe it was 18:30?? I’m trying to break 18 based on the feeling I can hold 5:45 for 3.12 miles. It will be challenging in the heat and humidity for the last mile but we I’m excited for the challenge . What’s your 5k PB? I am going to run a couple of 5ks and then a 10k
@@MidLifeRunner I broke 18:00 last year with a 17:50 during my first try last summer. Ran raster pace for another 5k but the course had a ton of frustrating as my watch pace was 5:40. If you have time, a few sauna sessions of 15-30 minutes will def help with acclimation.
Because impossible to heel lock.. Is the Insole removable?
It did not look like it. Seemed pretty stiched in
Tried to get on Amazon but I am in the EU..
:/
No better way to test a shoe than to run 13 miles at 1:00/mile pace!
AKA zone 1 😂
There he is...😂
💪🏼
there you go.., I’m going for sub 24, maybe 23:30, go get it…
22:58 Matthias! I can already see it
My biggest question about the shoe is what happens when you’re dead tired in the late miles of marathons, which is when even the pros heel strike.
I’m taking them for the 5k and likely a 10k. I think I could do it in these shoes
That shoe looks like pure…murder. But in a good way. Like, I just murdered that half marathon. Yeah?? Anyway. Glad you found moksha with it!
Lots of crime being committed on these streets, Nick. Just checked mizuno website and confirmed the shoe off listed as “very violent”
Running through the clouds like Lando Calrissian...
Just your every day smooth talking smuggler 😂