Maarten, I was hoping you'd do such a video. Thank you so much. I've been shooting some in HLG and I'd like to have your ideas on shooting in that mode. How do you think the dynamic range is compared to F-Log? What is your limit for highlights? I'm been setting my Zebras on 90 IRE, and that seems to work pretty well. But I've been able to recover details in highlights that, at first blush, look like they're blown out. Also, I've been pretty surprised at how clean the shadows are if I have to lift. It's a pretty amazing way to shoot IMO---even though it decidedly doesn't provide the degree of creative choice in post. Interested in your response.
First, I need to do more HLG work to feel totally comfortable. For the end results, I much prefer to create the settings in camera. Maybe it's because I use FCP, but I also feel that either with F-log or with HLG, I can't really create a look that's as pleasant as the one I'm creating with film simulations. Maybe I should take the footage to DVR. Yes, as long as you stay under 90 (or so), there seems to be enough range to recover/manage most highlights.
@@MaartenHeilbron even Jordan from DPReview said that f-log and n-log are not easy to grade compared to v-log. I don't want to purchase a camera that is harder to grade than some other one. Why this happens?? Canon log and v-log is easier to grade. N-log and f-log are not so easy ! I guess it is because of the colour science of the sensor and character of (native) lenses. Canon and Lumix have looks that is suitable for filmmaking..I mean slight boost in Red/orange/maroon as well as blues. Nikon boosts yellow+green and pink very slightly and keeps blue light..which is not suitable for a lot of films because films with intense emotion need stronger red and blue..though nikon look might be good for t.v.serials or ads.
Just what I've been looking for. Question though, I've been shooting HLG, not changing the library into "wide gamut" and using HDR Tools to correct the footage. Is it better to use this work flow in terms of video quality? I'm finding hard working out the best editing settings/work flow to get the best out of HLG while editing on a sdr monitor. your time is appreciated, subbed.
@@Ash_TVSC Hhhmmm, it won't take less card/disk space and will only provide a different look, not better quality. It may increase/improve/change the dynamic range available for a scene, and/or create a colour look you want - but that mostly requires a skilled colourist. If you can create your look in camera with the film sims, that will provide the best quality and save considerable post effort.
Looked great on my LG OLED CX. The tv recognized and switched to HLG HDR and looked pretty good!
Great to hear! Always nice when technology works the way we hope.
this is a great help. Thanks Mr. Heilbron.
Glad to hear that! Always nice to know my videos are appreciated.
Informative video. Thanks. 👍👍
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting.
Maarten, I was hoping you'd do such a video. Thank you so much.
I've been shooting some in HLG and I'd like to have your ideas on shooting in that mode. How do you think the dynamic range is compared to F-Log?
What is your limit for highlights? I'm been setting my Zebras on 90 IRE, and that seems to work pretty well. But I've been able to recover details in highlights that, at first blush, look like they're blown out.
Also, I've been pretty surprised at how clean the shadows are if I have to lift.
It's a pretty amazing way to shoot IMO---even though it decidedly doesn't provide the degree of creative choice in post.
Interested in your response.
First, I need to do more HLG work to feel totally comfortable. For the end results, I much prefer to create the settings in camera. Maybe it's because I use FCP, but I also feel that either with F-log or with HLG, I can't really create a look that's as pleasant as the one I'm creating with film simulations. Maybe I should take the footage to DVR.
Yes, as long as you stay under 90 (or so), there seems to be enough range to recover/manage most highlights.
@@MaartenHeilbron even Jordan from DPReview said that f-log and n-log are not easy to grade compared to v-log. I don't want to purchase a camera that is harder to grade than some other one. Why this happens?? Canon log and v-log is easier to grade. N-log and f-log are not so easy ! I guess it is because of the colour science of the sensor and character of (native) lenses. Canon and Lumix have looks that is suitable for filmmaking..I mean slight boost in Red/orange/maroon as well as blues. Nikon boosts yellow+green and pink very slightly and keeps blue light..which is not suitable for a lot of films because films with intense emotion need stronger red and blue..though nikon look might be good for t.v.serials or ads.
Very informative video, well done Maarten
Thank you, a pleasure to read your kind words.
Just what I've been looking for.
Question though, I've been shooting HLG, not changing the library into "wide gamut" and using HDR Tools to correct the footage. Is it better to use this work flow in terms of video quality? I'm finding hard working out the best editing settings/work flow to get the best out of HLG while editing on a sdr monitor.
your time is appreciated, subbed.
What are you hoping to gain by using HLG? It seems like you're adding effort without getting any results.
@@MaartenHeilbron I was lead to believe HLG used that way would provide better quality than built in film looks but for less memory space than Flog.
@@Ash_TVSC Hhhmmm, it won't take less card/disk space and will only provide a different look, not better quality. It may increase/improve/change the dynamic range available for a scene, and/or create a colour look you want - but that mostly requires a skilled colourist.
If you can create your look in camera with the film sims, that will provide the best quality and save considerable post effort.
Meu ajudou muito. ainda tem muito pouco conteúdo especifico da FUJi no Brasil
Obrigado pelas suas amáveis palavras.
Great work. Sony HLG workflow please. Thank you from Markham.
Request added to my to-do list (there have been several requests)
Could you do the same for the Sony (8bit) cameras? Thanks
I could, and have added this to the to-do list
@@MaartenHeilbron Thanks a lot Maarten!
Could you do the same using a Nikon camera?
Yes, the process is much the same.