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I'm also a pretty short guy and was hoping you'd share which chair you use or any advice for shorter people and chairs. I've used a home made strap on my old sagework atlas and it worked well. I'm currently using the guitarlift and don't feel I need the strap as much now but this Le support is really making me think about trying it out! Being short and not always having short enough seating my home made strap came in handle. Perhaps it'll help you in the same manner.
I bought Le support based on your review. I agree, it is an excellent product. My other supports would slip off my leg or the guitar would suddenly come loose. This support delivers. I had to buy a static plastic film for use on one of my guitars that has a satin finish. Thank you for your review!!
One of the things I like so much about the guitarlift is that the support is touching your body, not the guitar, reducing damping and allowing for more resonance. Do you notice a significant difference with this support?
Maybe...With all guitar supports I might notice a small vibration difference, but really, it would be small enough that I don't care too much either way. There are so many variables in guitar. I would say this support really get's it off your legs so maybe helps.
Great review, thank you. The multiple contact points might mean I finally stop going back to the footstand (and regretting it). Looks like it might not be great for a classical with a cutaway but the strap looks like a dream when messing with sheet music etc. Looking forward to trying this.
I had the same concern about compatibility with a cutaway. I reached out to the designer and he sent a photo of a woman using it. It will obviously work, but whether or not the angle is suitable for individual styles remains to be seen. It can't have the same range of adjustment. I might try one anyway.
It's up to you. My guitar is french polish and I've used suction cups for years without noticeable wear. As long a brand new finish has a few months to truly dry I thinks it's totally safe and fine. But at your own risk of course.
Hey! I too have a W. J. Conservatory model, but the french polish is quite porous so I use cling vinyl (ordered some on strings by mail) to use guitar supports with suction cups and it works perfectly.
Does it go higher/steeper than the Woodside? I use the latter because it's the highest I am aware of. Also, I don't like suction cups because after a fairly short time the lose their adhesive power, even if you clean them with soap and water.
I like my guitar fairly high and it's working for me. On my full size guitar there is still lots of room to go higher but on my small scale I'm nearing the limit.
Hmm. When you say you are short, would you mind giving us an idea of how short? I am a short person 160 cm tall but most importantly my hands are small and i have always thought this is the reason why my index makes the cords sound so terribly awful [particularly first position on the neck).. like i cannot press enough or i cannot put it in the right position. I noticed when i place the neck steep it improves. So i thought this support may help me but I may be too short for this to be confortable..
I'm about 5'7" so not sure. Maybe the GuitarLift would be a safer bet but I sure do like Le Support. It just barely works for me but mainly due to my smaller guitar rather than my height.
Hi Bradford. I'm current using the Guitarlift. My main issue is the suction cups sometimes come away from the body. Are these suction cups any better? I think it's the weight of my right arm. The Pro supports are quite expensive at the minute including having to buys the strap and spare suction cups.
The suction cups are around the same in terms of staying on. On my guitar they are not coming off at all. I'm sure it has to do with the finish plus, as you said, how much tension you are applying.
I would say the opposite, if anything it would help the vibration compared to being contacted on both legs. But really, I don't feel the difference to the sound is noticeable. Maybe it's a bit better.
I like the GuitarLift as well but the leg part bothers me, digs into my inner thigh not allowing me to pull the guitar in enough. Plus I still have to use a foam cloth on the other leg.
i've been considering buying this support for a while. My main concern is that I have to keep my guitar in its case with a humidifier any time I dont play, which can happen several times a day. That would mean putting the support on and off..How easy/practical is this? Also i was wondering: is your chest still in contact with the guitar body when you play, or is the support sort of act as a barrier between the guitar and the chest? I'm asking because I sweat and my guitar is sensitive to that, so that would be another reason for using the support.
It's easy. I admit, at first, as with the guitarlift, it takes time to get the placement correct. I mark it with sticky tabs at first so it's easy to line up the edges with my previous placement. But, after using it for two weeks I know exactly where it goes so it only takes 3 seconds to put on. So, just as easy as an Ergoplay or Guitarlift, or any other support.
I ordered but it didnt pass customs of my country ..they returned product but le support company dont accept from custom .. and they didnt anwer my emails.. attention !! there is no guarentee to other country
Oh no, try writing them again or contacting via social media. Maybe your email didn't make it through. Thomas is great, I'm sure it's just a miscommunication.
To me it feels a bit over-engineered. The size is a deal breaker for me. Plus, I have a Sakurai Kohno guitar and the luthier told me I should not use suction cups on it (the idea of adding a covering over the body doesn't feel right to me). I use two supports, the magnet-based one and the woodside, both seems good enough to me. But maybe it's just a matter of getting used to something new.
For me it all comes down to how it feels and adjusts. If a support actually feels good I'll play better and be more comfortable. So, I'm willing to accept the size here. BTW, I got your email and will reply soon.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar And of course you are playing at a completely different level than me :). No hurry at all; I know you are extremely busy. Sorry to bother you with questions :)
I decided to try it out; I do have one guitar on which I can attach suction cups. BTW, their website is surprisingly minimal; I had to do some research to find out that the support is coming from France (it could have been Canada, which would make German customs duty a problem). I wish they would at least put their address on their home page :). Thanks for reviewing these supports, I will now have tried almost all possible categories of support out :).
I really like the Woodside too. My top three are Le Support, Ergoplay, and Woodside. I'll be making a video. Each one a unique support for various people and reasons.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar It's function over form for sure, but it's also basically invisible so it's function AND form. Just the size that's odd but it has too be. I'd make it fold "in half" for transport, otherwise, SOLID. Thanks for all you do, followed you and your vids for years now even though I haven't picked up a guitar in 5. :)
I have a design I tried out where there are two pieces that slide out into an X pattern but when closed is just a single line. But it was crazy to adjust and stability not great. Not sure how a fold function would work.
Thanks for watching. Here's the link to my full review: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/le-support-review/
If you're watching just for free and you want to support the channel, visit my support page: www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/donate-support/
I'm also a pretty short guy and was hoping you'd share which chair you use or any advice for shorter people and chairs. I've used a home made strap on my old sagework atlas and it worked well. I'm currently using the guitarlift and don't feel I need the strap as much now but this Le support is really making me think about trying it out! Being short and not always having short enough seating my home made strap came in handle. Perhaps it'll help you in the same manner.
What is the price and the shipping cost? And what about fitting with a cutaway?
I bought Le support based on your review. I agree, it is an excellent product. My other supports would slip off my leg or the guitar would suddenly come loose. This support delivers. I had to buy a static plastic film for use on one of my guitars that has a satin finish. Thank you for your review!!
Thanks!
Thanks so much, glad the videos have been helpful!
Can't wait for their new release as a collaboration with Mark Usherovich! Thanks for the great review.
Ya, that will be interesting!
One of the things I like so much about the guitarlift is that the support is touching your body, not the guitar, reducing damping and allowing for more resonance. Do you notice a significant difference with this support?
Maybe...With all guitar supports I might notice a small vibration difference, but really, it would be small enough that I don't care too much either way. There are so many variables in guitar. I would say this support really get's it off your legs so maybe helps.
Great review, thank you. The multiple contact points might mean I finally stop going back to the footstand (and regretting it). Looks like it might not be great for a classical with a cutaway but the strap looks like a dream when messing with sheet music etc. Looking forward to trying this.
Ya, I don't think it will work with a cutaway. Maybe the GuitarLift would be a better choice in that situation.
I had the same concern about compatibility with a cutaway. I reached out to the designer and he sent a photo of a woman using it. It will obviously work, but whether or not the angle is suitable for individual styles remains to be seen. It can't have the same range of adjustment. I might try one anyway.
16:00 I think I'm going to wait for the full 5 point racing harness. 🤣
great review! If I have a guitar with French polish (W.J. Conservatory 1A EF), should I put a section cups protector to protect the finish?
It's up to you. My guitar is french polish and I've used suction cups for years without noticeable wear. As long a brand new finish has a few months to truly dry I thinks it's totally safe and fine. But at your own risk of course.
Hey! I too have a W. J. Conservatory model, but the french polish is quite porous so I use cling vinyl (ordered some on strings by mail) to use guitar supports with suction cups and it works perfectly.
Does it go higher/steeper than the Woodside? I use the latter because it's the highest I am aware of. Also, I don't like suction cups because after a fairly short time the lose their adhesive power, even if you clean them with soap and water.
Really? I've used my Ergoplay for over a decade and the suction cups are about the same as they were when new. Or at least I think they are.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar The suction cups are not my main concern. The height en steepness of the lift are crucial form me.
I like my guitar fairly high and it's working for me. On my full size guitar there is still lots of room to go higher but on my small scale I'm nearing the limit.
Hmm. When you say you are short, would you mind giving us an idea of how short? I am a short person 160 cm tall but most importantly my hands are small and i have always thought this is the reason why my index makes the cords sound so terribly awful [particularly first position on the neck).. like i cannot press enough or i cannot put it in the right position. I noticed when i place the neck steep it improves. So i thought this support may help me but I may be too short for this to be confortable..
I'm about 5'7" so not sure. Maybe the GuitarLift would be a safer bet but I sure do like Le Support. It just barely works for me but mainly due to my smaller guitar rather than my height.
Hi Bradford. I'm current using the Guitarlift. My main issue is the suction cups sometimes come away from the body. Are these suction cups any better? I think it's the weight of my right arm. The Pro supports are quite expensive at the minute including having to buys the strap and spare suction cups.
The suction cups are around the same in terms of staying on. On my guitar they are not coming off at all. I'm sure it has to do with the finish plus, as you said, how much tension you are applying.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Yes, on my guitar (Dieter Hopf Argon Craft II) they are rock solid too.
I use Sagework on magnets, because suction cups will eventually dry out and fall off.
I've used my Ergoplay with suction cups for over a decade and they still work. Plus, you can order replacements if needed.
Have you done an on/off sound comparison?
Wouldn't it be damping back of guitar vibrations?
I would say the opposite, if anything it would help the vibration compared to being contacted on both legs. But really, I don't feel the difference to the sound is noticeable. Maybe it's a bit better.
I use the Guitarlift, but this looks very good, greetings.
I like the GuitarLift as well but the leg part bothers me, digs into my inner thigh not allowing me to pull the guitar in enough. Plus I still have to use a foam cloth on the other leg.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar I don´t think they have this new support on the guitar shops in Spain, did you buy it online?
You can buy if them their store (link in description). They are located in France.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar Thank you Bradford.
i've been considering buying this support for a while. My main concern is that I have to keep my guitar in its case with a humidifier any time I dont play, which can happen several times a day. That would mean putting the support on and off..How easy/practical is this?
Also i was wondering: is your chest still in contact with the guitar body when you play, or is the support sort of act as a barrier between the guitar and the chest? I'm asking because I sweat and my guitar is sensitive to that, so that would be another reason for using the support.
It's easy. I admit, at first, as with the guitarlift, it takes time to get the placement correct. I mark it with sticky tabs at first so it's easy to line up the edges with my previous placement. But, after using it for two weeks I know exactly where it goes so it only takes 3 seconds to put on. So, just as easy as an Ergoplay or Guitarlift, or any other support.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar thanks for answering, I'll most likely give it a try. What can you say regarding my second question about contact with chest ?
No, it doesn't contact the chest. It's not high enough for that. I consider this a good thing in my case.
I ordered but it didnt pass customs of my country ..they returned product but le support company dont accept from custom .. and they didnt anwer my emails.. attention !! there is no guarentee to other country
Oh no, try writing them again or contacting via social media. Maybe your email didn't make it through. Thomas is great, I'm sure it's just a miscommunication.
Got one. Awesome support. I like the way I can squeeze the support with the inner thighs.
Ya, I like how it feels on the legs, isn't digging into me anywhere.
To me it feels a bit over-engineered. The size is a deal breaker for me. Plus, I have a Sakurai Kohno guitar and the luthier told me I should not use suction cups on it (the idea of adding a covering over the body doesn't feel right to me). I use two supports, the magnet-based one and the woodside, both seems good enough to me. But maybe it's just a matter of getting used to something new.
For me it all comes down to how it feels and adjusts. If a support actually feels good I'll play better and be more comfortable. So, I'm willing to accept the size here. BTW, I got your email and will reply soon.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar And of course you are playing at a completely different level than me :). No hurry at all; I know you are extremely busy. Sorry to bother you with questions :)
I decided to try it out; I do have one guitar on which I can attach suction cups. BTW, their website is surprisingly minimal; I had to do some research to find out that the support is coming from France (it could have been Canada, which would make German customs duty a problem). I wish they would at least put their address on their home page :). Thanks for reviewing these supports, I will now have tried almost all possible categories of support out :).
I'm glad you like the Woodside - haha. :) Hope we'll be one of your fav's.
I really like the Woodside too. My top three are Le Support, Ergoplay, and Woodside. I'll be making a video. Each one a unique support for various people and reasons.
WHA? WHY? that.. oh.. that's... actually genius. :)
Pretty much ya. I was skeptical of the size for sure but love it now.
@@Thisisclassicalguitar It's function over form for sure, but it's also basically invisible so it's function AND form. Just the size that's odd but it has too be. I'd make it fold "in half" for transport, otherwise, SOLID. Thanks for all you do, followed you and your vids for years now even though I haven't picked up a guitar in 5. :)
I have a design I tried out where there are two pieces that slide out into an X pattern but when closed is just a single line. But it was crazy to adjust and stability not great. Not sure how a fold function would work.
lol 160 euroes noooo thankkkss
The clear Etude one is only 89 Eur.
The strap is 19.99 Euro extra. Just had a look.
Oh ya, just noticed that. I should mention it.
My c40 deserves the best❤
What is ur cut ??? How much money to u ??@@Thisisclassicalguitar