Thats what I always thought. Like should you really defend all those Q2off type hands from BB when its super hard to play them optimally postflop. Gto finds crazy xr bluffs all overthe place with those comboes
THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING POKER VIDEO OF ALL TIMES. As you said on the beginning it saved my poker carrier. About 1.5 years ago I had very good run in both onilne and live poker and I though "ok, I'm doing good, so now lets further improve my game and crush even more". Unfortunetly I went the wrong way - I started playing gto, exploring gto strategies, training in gto programs. As you can guess this went terrible. In about 1 year I lost all my profit that I made during the good run both in online and live. When this video came live I figured the truth and started playing exploitive. And god this was my poker salvation. From losing couple of bb/100 I instatly started crushing nl25 onilne. I'm on my way to nl50 now. I swear to fucking god playing GTO was the worst thing that happened to my poker carrier ever. I lost almost all my bankroll, mentally I lost my confidence in my poker skills. On the bright side such shock treatment did improved my game and midset by a lot, becouse now I know for sure that playing GTO is bad and I do not consider playing it( earlier I had some doubts if I should play it more). I play more exploitive than ever, exploiting player pool weaknesses and before I was worried that I become exploitable doing that and was trying to mitigate it. Now I understand that ok maybe I am exploitable in that spots and maybe there are players that play strategy that is winning against me in that spots. BUT as long as my strategy is working against player pool - I'm good and I will make money playing that way. Big thanks and good luck on the tables and in life in general!
Great vid Ben. I’ve learned this the hard way, especially on the tournament scene. . .currently in Vegas for a few weeks doing some big field tournaments, already cashed on just my second tournament. Sporting my RYE hoodie and tee as well.👍🏼
„Buy what you need, I don‘t care if it‘s raise your edge“ Ben is such a great coach, opening the eyes! I can clearly see, that you want to get the players to study and get them better. And you can really see, how your passion for Poker is on fire!! Thanks for the great content🙏🏻🥳
I agree with the video 100% But I did buy the cash course and found it OK But you provide a "range chart" for calling, folding, vs 3 bets , 4 bets etc What the course doesn't explain is that these calls should be totally different vs different ranges So 8f I open a5s on the button and the sb 3 bets A chart doesn't give a gto fck if the villain has a 3% resteal range or a 27% resteal range And the course doesn't go down this rabbit hole So what you have is alot of regs playing off charts and not understanding why they can't beat the games I love it Keep it up You understand this but your 2 coaches on the cash game course do not mention it
ohne das Video gesehen zu haben...weil jeder einfach gleich spielt. Alles läuft nur noch nach irgendwelchen Calculator Programmen ab, das Gefühl für das Spiel ist komplett flöten gegangen. Ich bin sehr froh, noch nie in meinem Leben ein Buch über Poker gelesen zu haben, noch nie eine Hand die ich gespielt habe nachgerechnet zu haben im Programm und ich habe nur am Fernseher das Spiel gelernt und mir dann einen eigenen Stil zugelegt und feile immer weiter an meinen Ranges und meiner Art zu spielen (aber ohne das berühmte "Studying") und zu setzen. Und trotzdem mach ich genug Gewinn.
4:16 I never got the logic on this river fold, it looks like u make urself really exploitable in some spots.. So can u explain some more about this river laydown, i think i remember the hand but im not sure anymore about the betting pattern
Of course hes not. Nobody is really winning on this scammed sites. They just move money. When you playing 50k in a few days you can win easy 20-30k back. But when you play like a human you will never win anything near that not even 2k lol no matter how good you play cause its all rigged
I'll buy anything....I'll buy it from you Ben 😉 Out of all stores, I'll pic yours anyday. We're gonna see if I need anything. I should comment it more but thanks again for the content, always appreciated 👍✌️💞 Solide talk
Hey Ben, I'm Ben too! lol. What you said about ppl teaching GTO is so true, but the same could be said for people learning it. People are lazy and want simple vacuum solutions. It's like how we are taught in school. Exploitative is a much more difficult strategy to learn and implement, as the output solutions deviate so much on exploitable tendencies. GTO outputs are only as good as the inputs, but people want textbook robotic solutions that don't require thinking, and can be applied as a vacuum to the total population. It's great that you sell what you believe in, and I can tell you truly want to help others. Much respect.
@@RaiseYourEdge Is this a joke? If you study GTO exploitative play will get very straight forward since you will know which part of the range to attack (in maybe specific situations) since you are already accustomed to think of an action as an action of a distribution... If you learn GTO you learn exploitative poker except if you learn by memorization in which case you are wasting your time... Ofc vs a fish you don't need to learn exploitative poker from solvers since then you can gain huge EV by observing him closely and for example use the most recent (same session) history of you vs him to outplay him hard, "you feel him out" (and this is UNTEACHABLE).
Some say, somewhere in a bar on a beach in a distant land, with a Doug Polk picture on a dart board... Charlie Carrel is chanting "Raise Your Edge, Raise Your Edge" around a fire pit.... Some say.
@@JaredandLida on which you don't capitalize... If someone is folding more to 4 bets should you ever 5bet aces? Answer is 0%. Everytime you do you're actually losing his cbet etc. Gto will tell you differently. Cause its a strategy that works in a vacuum. Why do you think you can't solve stock market with an algorithm?
@@skillfuldabest long story short, i had like 60k hands playing nl100~1k, with 16bb/100 stop playing, came back, now i have 12bb currently playing at 100 around 20k~25k hands, soon i will try nl200, 12bb at the tables and like 4bb of rakeback as well.
Playing exploitative is the difference between long run and in the end ABC predictive mediocre schoolbook players and real poker players. You can't learn that hopefully. Of course you need to learn GTO to defeat your ennemy but somehow everybody can learn how to play GTO and very few people have ressources to understand and to play properly exploitative poker.
Stop fooling this people for money Lol. Poor ben has lost so much money in online poker and now he wants to tell us he is winning player?😀😄😂😅 Dude you are funny. How are you selling packages for about 10k Lol Hahaha this is pure Air. Nothing and noone can beat a software my friend
@@Pokermokus Clueless take. "No one can beat a software", All of GTO ranges are based on your opponent playing a perfect gto strategy across all streets. Even if you node lock every spot you are still just guessing his range. GTO is just a tool and the people that use it as the only way to play and try to memorize what to do are missing the entire point, wasting time, and leaving tons of money on the table. It seems to be a confidence thing. GTO nerds mostly just want to justify their awful play using predefined ranges that are laughably unrealistic.
Game Theory Optimal, it's essentially "perfectly unexploitable poker" it's an optimal strategy obtained by lots of iterations of a computer playing against itself.
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Thats what I always thought. Like should you really defend all those Q2off type hands from BB when its super hard to play them optimally postflop. Gto finds crazy xr bluffs all overthe place with those comboes
Love the energy! Great video ❤
Love Ben!!! Thanks so much for your content
THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING POKER VIDEO OF ALL TIMES.
As you said on the beginning it saved my poker carrier.
About 1.5 years ago I had very good run in both onilne and live poker and I though "ok, I'm doing good, so now lets further improve my game and crush even more". Unfortunetly I went the wrong way - I started playing gto, exploring gto strategies, training in gto programs.
As you can guess this went terrible. In about 1 year I lost all my profit that I made during the good run both in online and live.
When this video came live I figured the truth and started playing exploitive. And god this was my poker salvation.
From losing couple of bb/100 I instatly started crushing nl25 onilne. I'm on my way to nl50 now.
I swear to fucking god playing GTO was the worst thing that happened to my poker carrier ever. I lost almost all my bankroll, mentally I lost my confidence in my poker skills.
On the bright side such shock treatment did improved my game and midset by a lot, becouse now I know for sure that playing GTO is bad and I do not consider playing it( earlier I had some doubts if I should play it more). I play more exploitive than ever, exploiting player pool weaknesses and before I was worried that I become exploitable doing that and was trying to mitigate it. Now I understand that ok maybe I am exploitable in that spots and maybe there are players that play strategy that is winning against me in that spots. BUT as long as my strategy is working against player pool - I'm good and I will make money playing that way.
Big thanks and good luck on the tables and in life in general!
Great vid Ben. I’ve learned this the hard way, especially on the tournament scene. . .currently in Vegas for a few weeks doing some big field tournaments, already cashed on just my second tournament. Sporting my RYE hoodie and tee as well.👍🏼
Good stuff! We're rooting for you 💪
@@RaiseYourEdge Hey Ben, that was me that said hello earlier at WSOP. Best of luck to u.
@@rmx01indiana oh hey, now I remember :)
„Buy what you need, I don‘t care if it‘s raise your edge“ Ben is such a great coach, opening the eyes! I can clearly see, that you want to get the players to study and get them better. And you can really see, how your passion for Poker is on fire!! Thanks for the great content🙏🏻🥳
I agree with the video 100%
But I did buy the cash course and found it OK
But you provide a "range chart" for calling, folding, vs 3 bets , 4 bets etc
What the course doesn't explain is that these calls should be totally different vs different ranges
So 8f I open a5s on the button and the sb 3 bets
A chart doesn't give a gto fck if the villain has a 3% resteal range or a 27% resteal range
And the course doesn't go down this rabbit hole
So what you have is alot of regs playing off charts and not understanding why they can't beat the games
I love it
Keep it up
You understand this but your 2 coaches on the cash game course do not mention it
You really need to love this guys passion. Great video as always Ben 👍
ohne das Video gesehen zu haben...weil jeder einfach gleich spielt. Alles läuft nur noch nach irgendwelchen Calculator Programmen ab, das Gefühl für das Spiel ist komplett flöten gegangen. Ich bin sehr froh, noch nie in meinem Leben ein Buch über Poker gelesen zu haben, noch nie eine Hand die ich gespielt habe nachgerechnet zu haben im Programm und ich habe nur am Fernseher das Spiel gelernt und mir dann einen eigenen Stil zugelegt und feile immer weiter an meinen Ranges und meiner Art zu spielen (aber ohne das berühmte "Studying") und zu setzen. Und trotzdem mach ich genug Gewinn.
Thanks Ben. I just scored 2k in a 150 tournament in vegas and Im going to invest it in the tournament masterclass finally!
I needed this so much, thannk you Ben!
Just wanna say thank you for talking about this that I’ve been struggling for a long time
It's quite difficult to know which coaches still beat the game as everybody is hidden on Sharkscope.
As an example, is Jordan (BBZ) really a crusher ?
If they hide on sharkscope, they’re losing
Bbz may be one of the closest people to playing perfect GTO. His mind is a super computer. So yes he is a crusher.
@@GUNNER9119lmao no from what I’ve seen he randomises every decision when hands should be pure and misapplies MDF all over the place
4:16 I never got the logic on this river fold, it looks like u make urself really exploitable in some spots.. So can u explain some more about this river laydown, i think i remember the hand but im not sure anymore about the betting pattern
I like to think that a good player knows how to play GTO, but a great player knows when to deviate from GTO
Sometimes you need to be out of GTO line because its better in some situations
A lot better camera presence from years ago 👍
Ok Ben, but are YOU winning these days? Your Sharkscope graph is blocked... Not saying you arent btw, just a honest question
Of course hes not. Nobody is really winning on this scammed sites. They just move money. When you playing 50k in a few days you can win easy 20-30k back. But when you play like a human you will never win anything near that not even 2k lol no matter how good you play cause its all rigged
I saw someone post a hand in a study group where on the river facing an all in he RNG mixed call and fold against a 60vpip whale.
tell him to retire xD
I'll buy anything....I'll buy it from you Ben 😉 Out of all stores, I'll pic yours anyday. We're gonna see if I need anything. I should comment it more but thanks again for the content, always appreciated 👍✌️💞 Solide talk
Most have no clue what actually all those fancy terms mean. That doesn't stop them from throwing them around.
Recently I had a chance to play with you at the same table😅 20-25 buyin t, well want the say wish i play as you do!
Hey Ben, I'm Ben too! lol. What you said about ppl teaching GTO is so true, but the same could be said for people learning it. People are lazy and want simple vacuum solutions. It's like how we are taught in school. Exploitative is a much more difficult strategy to learn and implement, as the output solutions deviate so much on exploitable tendencies. GTO outputs are only as good as the inputs, but people want textbook robotic solutions that don't require thinking, and can be applied as a vacuum to the total population. It's great that you sell what you believe in, and I can tell you truly want to help others. Much respect.
that's true my friend. People want shortcuts.
@@RaiseYourEdge Is this a joke? If you study GTO exploitative play will get very straight forward since you will know which part of the range to attack (in maybe specific situations) since you are already accustomed to think of an action as an action of a distribution... If you learn GTO you learn exploitative poker except if you learn by memorization in which case you are wasting your time... Ofc vs a fish you don't need to learn exploitative poker from solvers since then you can gain huge EV by observing him closely and for example use the most recent (same session) history of you vs him to outplay him hard, "you feel him out" (and this is UNTEACHABLE).
9:37 I feel attacked
The big question is will we see you in this years wsop?
tight is right and will always be
someone said poker is too complex game to just rely on gto computers
Ben just trying to make everyone suck at GTO so he finally got an edge over population ;)
The real deal is GRO
looove this video
Charlie Carrell just did a Randy Marsh "echtoplasm" over this video.
Some say, somewhere in a bar on a beach in a distant land, with a Doug Polk picture on a dart board... Charlie Carrel is chanting "Raise Your Edge, Raise Your Edge" around a fire pit.... Some say.
@jack Super humor 😂
Banger
Thx Ben. I’ve been saying this from the beginning. I crush gto wizards all day long.
Nobody can play even close to GTO.The best thing you can do is apply some concepts from it.
and then i lose every 80/20 or 50/50 at final 2 tables. my profit? GONE
Finally, one who speaks the truth about gto. You only play gto against bots. Against humans who don't play perfect is actually a losing strategy.
It's not a "losing strategy"
@@supremeleaderarmy9164 It is - because your opponents does NOT play as GTO predicts..
@@andersnielsen6044 That is part of what makes it a winning strategy. Your opponent is making -ev mistakes
@@JaredandLida on which you don't capitalize... If someone is folding more to 4 bets should you ever 5bet aces? Answer is 0%. Everytime you do you're actually losing his cbet etc. Gto will tell you differently. Cause its a strategy that works in a vacuum. Why do you think you can't solve stock market with an algorithm?
Thanks Ben for free knowledge 🤑🤑🤑
Glad you enjoyed, Wiktor!
Why the fuck would I play GTO when my opponents can't even spell GTO.
BOOM
BASED
currently beating cash games at nl100 with around 12bb/100 without ever had opened a solver software.
In your dreams hahah
sample size?
@@skillfuldabest long story short, i had like 60k hands playing nl100~1k, with 16bb/100 stop playing, came back, now i have 12bb currently playing at 100 around 20k~25k hands, soon i will try nl200, 12bb at the tables and like 4bb of rakeback as well.
@@antihackerify surely this is not on pokerstars, right? If so that is super sick.
@@skillfuldabest the first sample was on : wpn + chico + 888 + stars(very little on stars), second sample im currently playing only at gg
Playing exploitative is the difference between long run and in the end ABC predictive mediocre schoolbook players and real poker players. You can't learn that hopefully. Of course you need to learn GTO to defeat your ennemy but somehow everybody can learn how to play GTO and very few people have ressources to understand and to play properly exploitative poker.
Stop fooling this people for money Lol. Poor ben has lost so much money in online poker and now he wants to tell us he is winning player?😀😄😂😅 Dude you are funny. How are you selling packages for about 10k Lol Hahaha this is pure Air.
Nothing and noone can beat a software my friend
you are not the brightest.
@@RaiseYourEdge Ok good answer 😂 keep loosing money
@@Pokermokus Clueless take. "No one can beat a software", All of GTO ranges are based on your opponent playing a perfect gto strategy across all streets. Even if you node lock every spot you are still just guessing his range. GTO is just a tool and the people that use it as the only way to play and try to memorize what to do are missing the entire point, wasting time, and leaving tons of money on the table. It seems to be a confidence thing. GTO nerds mostly just want to justify their awful play using predefined ranges that are laughably unrealistic.
Sorry but GTO will never kill your profits, pros just like to hate on GTO because they can’t beat GTO
Did you even watch the phucking video?
people don't play GTO so your last comment that pros can't beat GTO is moronic.
It will destroy you roi. You'll call with garbage cause gto says so against a range that exists only in your mind.
@@FriendsForFriends666 the opposite. you call if you play like them.not gto.
@@Asim-p9f nope... Wtf...
What is GTO? Excuse my ignorance
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Game Theory Optimal, it's essentially "perfectly unexploitable poker" it's an optimal strategy obtained by lots of iterations of a computer playing against itself.
@@UndercoverFrog many thanks. Appreciate it
GRO -khabrel
Ben!!! Shhh!!!! People will stop shoving with k9of on jj107a!! Damm you!!! 😂