What a day today to whatch the 2nd volume of tenors of Great Voices by Maestro Pappano. Today is the 62th death anniversary of great Sweedish tenor of the 20th century Jussi Bjorling. Thanks for the wonderful display of voices. & thank you very much for uploading this fascinating series Mr. Frank Joustra.
It is surprissing that Pappano forget the tenor that, with evidence available, has been The BEST in the History: Alfredo Kraus. In contraste Mario Lanza, that was a cinematographic tenor, an Kaufmann, with an ingolated voice, only sufficient volumen (no more) and a bad projection are included.
I cannot stop listening to Maestro Pappano’s explanations and discussions with professionals about singing, his stunning in-depth understanding and sensitivity. That increases my pleasure to listen to tenors. And I wonder whether it is just him to do so or if there are other opera conductors like him.
Concordo sulla personalità eccezionale di Franco Corelli. Aveva TUTTO!! Nessuno come lui, parlando del dopoguerra, anche se le voci bellissime di Di Stefano e Pavarotti hanno brillato in gioventù. Prima è difficile avere prove sicure sui più famosi. Nel nostro XXI Secolo brilla la voce ineguagliabile, come tenore leggero, di Juan Diego Florez.
In my humble opinion the tenor voice is amazing to listen too! it is so exciting! As it makes it's climb through melodic lines jumping from lower register to extreme high register in it is an emotional journey that reaches deep into the soul. Even those that perhaps don't like opera are moved by it dramatic lyrics and acting stage presence. A while back while in college I auditioned for three operas and to my surprise was excepted to sing in the opera chorus in three operas at De Vos Hall in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I then discovered what opera is all about and my love for it has grown ever since. Getting back to this video I found it very informative when Antonio Pappano worked with a voice teacher on proper vocal techniques. I plan to return to this video as it is a store house of wonderful opera history.
Great comment! If you interested in the history of opera there is a nice documentary here on youtube "The Art Of Singing. Golden Voices Of The Century". That is a great historical documentary of opera. I think people instinctively gravitate towards the tenor range. Even in contemporary music the tenor/ alto range is the most popular, even women sing more in the tenor range.
Corelli was an incredible tenor with easy and fantastic high notes, especially for the size of his voice, and incredible squillo, he was a great actor on stage in the theatre. The heavy more dramatic tenor repertoire have unfortunately been performed in a mediocre, flat and underwhelmingly fashion for a long time now. Bigger, heavier tenor voices such as Corelli's voice is extremely rare.
Pavarotti's premiership voice (second half of the 1960's - early 1970's) IMHO puts all male and female opera voices into second division. At that time he had it all - the voice, the musicality, the emotion, the diction.
This is the kind of statement that suggests that you are not familiar with opera singers in general and opera in particular. Only a deeply ignorant person can say that Corelli, Schipa, Bergonzi, di Stefano, del Monaco etc. are "second division" singers. And I'm not even talking about the ridiculousness of comparing male to female voices...
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh @Missedtrain-gu1fh Speaking at the time of Pavarotti's death North Wales Opera star Bryn Terfel said: “I am deeply saddened by the news of Luciano Pavarotti’s death - a truly inspirational and awe-inspiring artist with a voice of pure gold. His premiership voice put us all into the second division.” Would you call Terfel a person not familiar with opera singers in general and opera in particular... a deeply ignorant person? By the way, only an ignorant person like you is not able to compare male and female voices. Ciao buffone!
Nice that he accurately gives Corelli his due. Yes, he drove audiences crazy, his looks, his top notes, the darkness and brilliance at the same time, the ability to color, to diminish the voice etc. Also points out he ws a great singer. I heard him many times live-I haven't heard anything like that since
@@Felix73able The funny thing is that you realized it when you saw him-not some retrospective view-he was too much. I know they want to use videos for everything, but this was far from his best Cavaradossi-too early. I'll brag-I saw him in 12 separate Tosca performances
@@labienus9968 I am sure that both of these stories deserve the closest attention and study. By the way, both excellent Hermanns - Abert and Kretschmar - were classical philologists by education. I think you knew about it. I share your interests and your passion. However, unfortunately, I can't brag about my impressions of live Corelle. But I am very happy for you.
Antonio haalt bij Jonas zijn specialiteit eruit: de hoge tonen steeds zachter laten worden....er is niemand die dat zo kan als Jonas....ik snap heel goed dat Jonas Fritz Wunderlich zo bewondert,hij is inderdaad prachtig!
Kennt jemand Peter Grimes je gehört ?Selten etwas so überflüssiges gelesen. Das E ist passagoAnfang, super super intoniert und gesungen, man hoert deep throat und perfectissimo❤
I really don't get it. He's a well educated and trained musician. (At least here) he listens to Caruso, Corelli, Wunderlich and Pavarotti. Yet, he keeps promoting the likes of Kaufmann and Florez. Not only in the video, but in "his" theater as well. I mean, if I were in his shoes, I would insist on working with singers like Martin Muehle, Oscar Marín and Saioa Hernandez. What's going on doesn't make sense to me.
Because still idiots promoting a trash like pavaroti. They describing that crook like he was unique, but ANY operatic singer was in that period much better than that pop mosquito with his squeaks. And it was a casual standarts with technique, what he described. Too much noise on freaks
These great tenors, Pavarotti and Mario Lanza were the best. Not only do we have today's opera tenors, Jonas Kaufmann and Juan Diego Florez, but we also have the great Andrea Bocelli as well. Thank you Maestro Pappano for this video.
kind of sad with the great operatic tenors presented here-you mention Lanza (at least he had a voice, but was not an opera singer) and Bocelli isn't part of this for a reason-great belongs to someone like the great Jon Vickers
@@ZENOBlAmusic How can you mention Bocelli in the same breath as Lanza? Lanza had one of the greatest voices of his time. Bocelli is not in the same class.
@@edwardkerrigan5356 Lanza had the real or correct technique, unlike Bocelli. But he was really a recording or a studio artists. Bocelli has performed live far more then Lanza. So they are somewhat in the same. Except that Lanza’s recordings does sound better or quite good. But the studio and recordings are very deceptive. You can only judge a singer by their live performances. Studio recordings tends to give lyric tenors bigger voices then what they really have. Lanza only did a handful of operas live. Performing live on stage night after night is really difficult. Lanza was better then Bocelli, but they were both not really opera singers.
I think you, Jim, should just shut up! I just happened across this fascinating documentary and am extremely grateful to Pappano for affording me the opportunity to increase my knowledge of opera and watch these clips of all my idols. My sincere thanks to him and the BBC!
Something about opera makes people say very stupid things. Like badmouthing Caruso when the overwhelming consensus is against you. I thought this was great, but geared to the beginner. And they are the ones who make dumb comments.
Caruso was by and far not the greatest Tenor of the 20th Century. He had a lot of flaws and I don’t consider his as having been a very beautiful voice. I can think of a good many 20th century tenors who were far better. Pavarotti, Domingo, Corelli, Gedda and yes, Lanza.....just to name a few. This romanization of Caruso needs to stop. He was simply the most famous and most recorded....the only recorded tenor of his time but by no means was he the greatest of the 20th century....or any century for that matter.
Very True. Caruso was one of the great in his generation. But other great voice was Jussi Bjorling, one of the greatest of tenors between they two wars and later.
Wrong. What you are failing to grasp is before Caruso, no one ever sounded anything like him. After him, no tenor has not felt his influence. None of the tenors you name would have existed without him. Quite simply, He changed everything. Singing was never the same. He importance cannot be overstated. Even if you don't like the sound, which isna bit muscular for my tastes, but his phrasing and way with words has never been equaled. We have only poor recordings to go by. Read some contemporaneous reviews of his performances. Critic could scarely put into words his greatness. A poster for one of his concerts read " Don't miss this chance to hear the most glorious voice of this generation ". Imagine having to live up to that!
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WHAT AN HONOR TO HAVE MAESTRO PAPPANO IN OUR DAYS!
Tenor's are amazing singers that can send chills up and down your spine, reaching deeply into the inner soul!
What a day today to whatch the 2nd volume of tenors of Great Voices by Maestro Pappano. Today is the 62th death anniversary of great Sweedish tenor of the 20th century Jussi Bjorling.
Thanks for the wonderful display of voices.
& thank you very much for uploading this fascinating series Mr. Frank Joustra.
The world is a better place because Maestro Pappano is in it. We are so very lucky!
It is surprissing that Pappano forget the tenor that, with evidence available, has been The BEST in the History: Alfredo Kraus. In contraste Mario Lanza, that was a cinematographic tenor, an Kaufmann, with an ingolated voice, only sufficient volumen (no more) and a bad projection are included.
Also Pappano did not mention Di Stefano or Del Mónaco, for example. It is not understable in an "expert" in operatic voices.
Pappano: do you know Miguel Fleta and Jaime Aragall ?
Thanks Maestro Papano for the marvelous explanation and education, you are a great teacher.🥰
I cannot stop listening to Maestro Pappano’s explanations and discussions with professionals about singing, his stunning in-depth understanding and sensitivity. That increases my pleasure to listen to tenors. And I wonder whether it is just him to do so or if there are other opera conductors like him.
❤
Thank you Antonio Pappano. I must say when I see your face your expressions I don’t need to listen for your comments it’s all there. Thank you so much
Concordo sulla personalità eccezionale di Franco Corelli. Aveva TUTTO!! Nessuno come lui, parlando del dopoguerra, anche se le voci bellissime di Di Stefano e Pavarotti hanno brillato in gioventù. Prima è difficile avere prove sicure sui più famosi. Nel nostro XXI Secolo brilla la voce ineguagliabile, come tenore leggero, di Juan Diego Florez.
In my humble opinion the tenor voice is amazing to listen too! it is so exciting! As it makes it's climb through melodic lines jumping from lower register to extreme high register in it is an emotional journey that reaches deep into the soul. Even those that perhaps don't like opera are moved by it dramatic lyrics and acting stage presence. A while back while in college I auditioned for three operas and to my surprise was excepted to sing in the opera chorus in three operas at De Vos Hall in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I then discovered what opera is all about and my love for it has grown ever since. Getting back to this video I found it very informative when Antonio Pappano worked with a voice teacher on proper vocal techniques. I plan to return to this video as it is a store house of wonderful opera history.
Great comment! If you interested in the history of opera there is a nice documentary here on youtube "The Art Of Singing. Golden Voices Of The Century". That is a great historical documentary of opera. I think people instinctively gravitate towards the tenor range. Even in contemporary music the tenor/ alto range is the most popular, even women sing more in the tenor range.
Обожаю Антонио Паппано!!!❤
Corelli was an incredible tenor with easy and fantastic high notes, especially for the size of his voice, and incredible squillo, he was a great actor on stage in the theatre. The heavy more dramatic tenor repertoire have unfortunately been performed in a mediocre, flat and underwhelmingly fashion for a long time now. Bigger, heavier tenor voices such as Corelli's voice is extremely rare.
Corelli was a spinto not a dramatic,he was however one of the greatest if not grestest spintos
Pavarotti's premiership voice (second half of the 1960's - early 1970's) IMHO puts all male and female opera voices into second division. At that time he had it all - the voice, the musicality, the emotion, the diction.
Salvo Corelli!!
This is the kind of statement that suggests that you are not familiar with opera singers in general and opera in particular. Only a deeply ignorant person can say that Corelli, Schipa, Bergonzi, di Stefano, del Monaco etc. are "second division" singers.
And I'm not even talking about the ridiculousness of comparing male to female voices...
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh @Missedtrain-gu1fh Speaking at the time of Pavarotti's death North Wales Opera star Bryn Terfel said: “I am deeply saddened by the news of Luciano Pavarotti’s death - a truly inspirational and awe-inspiring artist with a voice of pure gold. His premiership voice put us all into the second division.” Would you call Terfel a person not familiar with opera singers in general and opera in particular... a deeply ignorant person? By the way, only an ignorant person like you is not able to compare male and female voices. Ciao buffone!
Nice that he accurately gives Corelli his due. Yes, he drove audiences crazy, his looks, his top notes, the darkness and brilliance at the same time, the ability to color, to diminish the voice etc. Also points out he ws a great singer. I heard him many times live-I haven't heard anything like that since
you are a very very fortunate person!
@@Felix73able The funny thing is that you realized it when you saw him-not some retrospective view-he was too much. I know they want to use videos for everything, but this was far from his best Cavaradossi-too early. I'll brag-I saw him in 12 separate Tosca performances
@@labienus9968 Judging by your name, you should remember not only Corelli, but also Gaius Julius Caesar.
@@purisermonisamator So you know your Roman history? I know it as well as my opera history
@@labienus9968 I am sure that both of these stories deserve the closest attention and study. By the way, both excellent Hermanns - Abert and Kretschmar - were classical philologists by education. I think you knew about it.
I share your interests and your passion. However, unfortunately, I can't brag about my impressions of live Corelle. But I am very happy for you.
The turning of the page at 36:00 is amazing.
BRAVO MAESTRO PAPPANO! NICE TENOR QUALITY!
Magnificent !!
thank you!!!
좋은 프로그램 감사해요 ❤
8:48 its just a business 🤣😂 Thanks for the truth. Mosquito: "We make the money we deserve. We're not forcing someone to pay us."
Antonio haalt bij Jonas zijn specialiteit eruit: de hoge tonen steeds zachter laten worden....er is niemand die dat zo kan als Jonas....ik snap heel goed dat Jonas Fritz Wunderlich zo bewondert,hij is inderdaad prachtig!
Here I am again
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Pavarotti was a bit of a clown, but he was truly a great singer. Technically, beautiful diction, big personality.
Cauruso looks like a mafia boss
Kennt jemand Peter Grimes je gehört ?Selten etwas so überflüssiges gelesen. Das E ist passagoAnfang, super super intoniert und gesungen, man hoert deep throat und perfectissimo❤
I really don't get it. He's a well educated and trained musician. (At least here) he listens to Caruso, Corelli, Wunderlich and Pavarotti. Yet, he keeps promoting the likes of Kaufmann and Florez. Not only in the video, but in "his" theater as well. I mean, if I were in his shoes, I would insist on working with singers like Martin Muehle, Oscar Marín and Saioa Hernandez. What's going on doesn't make sense to me.
Maestro, why was Melchior not included?
Because still idiots promoting a trash like pavaroti. They describing that crook like he was unique, but ANY operatic singer was in that period much better than that pop mosquito with his squeaks. And it was a casual standarts with technique, what he described. Too much noise on freaks
He should have been
Franco Corelli.
Pavarotti is the greatest
For me , The best opera singer of the end 20th century was - Franco Bonisolli
He was better than he gets credit for, but.....
Come on.
@@jefolson6989 Well said-but right, come on, get real.
@@labienus9968 wha?
@@jefolson6989 wha?
he wore boots well
NO ONE COMES EVEN CLOSE TO CARUSO!
Javier you listened Caruso in teathre?. I think no.
Sorry. Have YOU listened Caruso in teathre ?. I think no.
These great tenors, Pavarotti and Mario Lanza were the best. Not only do we have today's opera tenors, Jonas Kaufmann and Juan Diego Florez, but we also have the great Andrea Bocelli as well. Thank you Maestro Pappano for this video.
kind of sad with the great operatic tenors presented here-you mention Lanza (at least he had a voice, but was not an opera singer) and Bocelli isn't part of this for a reason-great belongs to someone like the great Jon Vickers
Bocelli? You must be joking!
Both Lanza and Bocelli are not opera singers. They were or are fine contemporary singers, but they are certainly not opera singers.
@@ZENOBlAmusic How can you mention Bocelli in the same breath as Lanza? Lanza had one of the greatest voices of his time. Bocelli is not in the same class.
@@edwardkerrigan5356 Lanza had the real or correct technique, unlike Bocelli. But he was really a recording or a studio artists. Bocelli has performed live far more then Lanza. So they are somewhat in the same. Except that Lanza’s recordings does sound better or quite good. But the studio and recordings are very deceptive. You can only judge a singer by their live performances. Studio recordings tends to give lyric tenors bigger voices then what they really have. Lanza only did a handful of operas live. Performing live on stage night after night is really difficult. Lanza was better then Bocelli, but they were both not really opera singers.
Florez's high note is for me too metallic and thin. It does not sound pleasing. Sorry.
Para mi el mejor es Pavarotti
maybe the young Pavarotti one of them, before him Corelli of course
Sometimes, you want Pappano to just shut up.
Papino with his PASSAGIOs 😂🤣
I think you, Jim, should just shut up! I just happened across this fascinating documentary and am extremely grateful to Pappano for affording me the opportunity to increase my knowledge of opera and watch these clips of all my idols. My sincere thanks to him and the BBC!
Something about opera makes people say very stupid things. Like badmouthing Caruso when the overwhelming consensus is against you. I thought this was great, but geared to the beginner. And they are the ones who make dumb comments.
Caruso was by and far not the greatest Tenor of the 20th Century. He had a lot of flaws and I don’t consider his as having been a very beautiful voice. I can think of a good many 20th century tenors who were far better. Pavarotti, Domingo, Corelli, Gedda and yes, Lanza.....just to name a few. This romanization of Caruso needs to stop. He was simply the most famous and most recorded....the only recorded tenor of his time but by no means was he the greatest of the 20th century....or any century for that matter.
Bjoerling was greatest of all.
Kaufmann warbles.
Very True. Caruso was one of the great in his generation.
But other great voice was Jussi Bjorling, one of the greatest of tenors between they two wars and later.
Wrong. What you are failing to grasp is before Caruso, no one ever sounded anything like him. After him, no tenor has not felt his influence. None of the tenors you name would have existed without him. Quite simply, He changed everything. Singing was never the same. He importance cannot be overstated. Even if you don't like the sound, which isna bit muscular for my tastes, but his phrasing and way with words has never been equaled. We have only poor recordings to go by. Read some contemporaneous reviews of his performances. Critic could scarely put into words his greatness. A poster for one of his concerts read " Don't miss this chance to hear the most glorious voice of this generation ". Imagine having to live up to that!
Bravo! Totally agree with you.
Pappano should refrain from demonstrating singing, in many ways he should refrain.