Yeah,and translates to tracked cannon wagon... There is some evidence towards it also originally was designed for tactical nuke shells before Sweden gave up it's nuclear weapons program.
Are u guys joking it takes 4 minutes to meet the first enemy tank on red desert, now imagine a map twice as big and you’ll be driving for about 10 minutes just to look at someone
It stops the barrel from warping due to differential expansion from sunlight heating the metal. Chieftain had a leather wrap around the barrel fpr the same reasons.
This isn't true at all, that's a rolled and heat treated steel barrel, it's meant to prevent IR thermal detection from other tanks if it's hidden with camouflage. The barrel is designed to withstand some pretty high temperatures in the first place getting up to like 100 degrees maybe in the sun is not gonna affect the accuracy of a thicc barrel like this.
@@Sam21721 it does, thats why almost all the armed forces uses a Thermal sleeve on the artillery and tanks barrels. You should look into that topic. As You Say they are designed to withstand high temps but an uneven cooling or heating of the barrel can lead to slight warps that could affect in some way the accuracy at long ranges.
@@Sam21721 dude, you are so wrong it isn't even funny. And, it's the heat difference between sun lit and shadowed parts of the barrel that bends it away from the sun enough to impair accuracy, especially first shot accuracy.
Man, gaijin needs to add that camo mesh to tank models in the game, would make it feel so much more personalized. The Leos especially look so naked without it
I would love it to be modification (like add on armor) but instead of them all being fixed static objects i would love to be able to place it myself. Like a sticker or smthn
What if ?: Instead of bushes for camo, we can interchange different camo netting. Drape right over what ever actual camo you have set, but you can cover either the whole tank in netting or specific. Think about it regular olive drab Leo with snow white netting draped. It's a really nice aesthetic.
Camo drapes would look badass. Personally, I would not mind if they overhauled customization features as a major update. Would have enjoyed such an update compared to useless dozers that don't see actual use in battles.
yeah I've been trying to get camo netting added through the forums, but no luck. Moderator is telling me that it doesn't have enough interest, although I'm seeing hundreds of people on Reddit and the forums wanting it. Would be awesome.
On large maps the artillery players should get an azimuth and elevation cue to fire at from players calling arty strikes. With each shot they fire at the cue it gets more precise.
Or at the very least from allied vehicles that have scouting. And if they scout the same target again after you fire, it could give you a more precise cue because they reported your fall of shot.
@@tutes0133 Exactly. It's a self propelled artillery system that also happened to both be heaviest and fastest firing in the world. Too bad it's retired.
I'm a _blitz_ player and watch your videos they're so good. I don't even play War Thunder and I'm still subscribed. I owe you thanks Phly. Thanks for kicking ass at this game. It shows what a complete different game and how much more realistic War Thunder is
I've seen this artillery system before! Though it was mounted on a truck I think. To reload the magazine(?) they use a crane to just replace the whole compartment.
@@aceette5231 Archer is litterally an upgrade for the Haub77. They litterally scrapped ALL of the Swedish Armys Haub77 pieces for some of the parts to build the Archers.
At this point im wondering why they dont have more ww2 arty and the m109? Im guessing balancing reasons since theyre just gonna be played as td’s since player arty isnt a thing i guess
Artyllery in WoT can give you a reason for it, they have overhead view of the map so they just click and annoy people. But, if you remove the overhead view, they become really hard to play (as real life artyllery requires maths). If Gajin found a way to make them work without overhead view, tank players would complain because player controlled artyllery shots can destroy ANYTHING.
@@yoshineitor They could give arty a range estimate within a few hundred meters when an enemy is spotted. Say an enemy gets scouted, the arty gets something like enemy at 241 degrees, 2.4km to 2.6km out and its up to the arty player to range in on it. Though this would be more of a gimmick as arty would just go direct fire 99% of the time
Wish this game had a type of player based artillery long range, {not like world of tanks top down view} that mostly work together with scout tanks scouting, which will makes the random arty spam a thing of the past, cause using artillery tanks as a frontline tank is strategically redundant,and would make for more teamwork play viable
This opens the door to a nice idea (I hope - I'm sure comments will tell) Why not have the opening lobby (and only the initial hangar) with role slots... Scouts, Tanks, AA and Arty (and Helo support in high tier) - People choose their opening vehicle according to open slots in each category, and Arty has a spawn point maybe near the Helo bases... they have to rely on scouts to get targets, but then the Arty group could be responsible for answering arty calls... with it going back to the usual if no one is left alive in that group... CAS could go after artillery pieces (which could also be protected by AA players or AI)... Just an idea... I have no clue as to whether this would be implementable...
@@danielross7983 kinda arty can just use a special sight that allows them to shoot enemies across the map as along as they are spotted by an ally... Essentially just death from above and nothing you can do about it
you did not damage yourself. That system seems to be connected to the engine mechanic in WT so if you damage your engine and/or turn it off, and your battery counter hits 0, the reload seems to be longer
I hope soon they make an update with spy planes, they can spawn at high altitudes and can have a scouting mechanic, just imagine having a U-2 fly over the battle field
would be amazing for realistic battles, where AWACS scanning, radar and imaging replaces the mini map... but they you'd have to do so so much more... it's all very complicated, and for obvious reasons, the inner workings of modern military equipment isn't freely available to the public.... This is DCS type stuff, and even DCS can't figure it out completely... to balance this stuff would be a nightmare.
Me and my playing group have been crying out for this for a while. Allowing them to call in arty as well would be interesting. No MG's, bombs, or anything like that. Just pure scout planes. We also wanna see willy jeeps etc that purely scout, but can also work as ammo dumps for team mates.
@@markgregory983 man that first part you said about scouting, I fully agree. I would love if only scout vehicles could spot things. I’m tired of all the bs where you get hit by shrapnel or an mg and suddenly everyone knows where you are. The little damage/kill cam you get in the corner of your screen should be removed too. Would make realistic battles a whole lot more interesting
The Bandkanon was the largest armored vehicle in production for the entirety of its production. It also holds the record for the fastest-firing howitzer, being able to fire 15 rounds in under 45 seconds. Also, because the entire ammo rack is technically a clip, the Bandkanon is also armed with the world's largest autocannon.
This makes me wish the BatChat 155 gets in the game (and it should, given that French TD tree is in need of some actually French vehicles) I also wish the EMIL series of heavy tanks get added to the Swedish tech tree, given that the Bandkanon 1 chassis (and surprisingly enough, also the gun system) is actually a modified Kranvagn chassis also 9:57: > tracers are good because we see where they're going Tracers are bad *precisely because* everyone and their mother can see where they're going. One of the best things about the Type 75 SPH and the Lorraine 37L is that their tracerless shells allow you to snipe without getting seen by the enemy.
Also, Phly attempting to replicate the crew command dialogue is hilarious as ever ^^ For anyone that's curious his "Mister Moon!" is actually "Nästa Mål!" = "Next Target!"
The Bkan 1C is the predecessor to the Archer Artillery platform. It was never put in to serial production but it was pland to have 500 of them to defend Sweden against the entire Russian Tank Army in the 1970is.. It is one of the best Artillery systems ever made
@@setaripantheon8801 actually we had a artillery piece named Haub 77 in between the Archer and Bkan 1. And the Archer is more related to the Haub 77 than the Bkan1
@@aceette5231 the Archer IS the Haub77 on a modern platform, and no the Haub77 did not replace the Bkan, they served together as complementary assets. Similiar to how the Strv103 and the Centurions complemented eachother.
@@SonsOfLorgar there were a time of about 8 years were only the Haub 77 were in use and the Bkan wasn’t. It wasn’t in use because it couldn’t shot long enough as the haub 77 could.
hey Phly a lot of long range precision shooters use what looks like a canvas strap on top of their barrel so that the heat waves (radiant heat) off their barrel generated from firing gets dispersed from the scope of the rifle, probably the same for this tank as well! Its called a mirage shield!
@Yu Yy that doesn't excuse the fact that it's balanced horribly. It should be obvious that this thing belongs nowhere lower than 8.0 but Gaijin just keeps pushing the compression and hurting the game for profit. The fact is that this is the BR they are looking to put it at, and at that BR it is completely unacceptable. Large HE is one of the most annoying types of shells to deal with in the game, and they put this out
Gaijin nerfed the ratels speed do you think they'll allow that beast to be fast😔. There's also a possibility for there to be 2 variants G6 Rhino and the G6-52 and theres also the valkerie and the bateleur🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
It's a shortening of the word Bandkanon (tracked cannon). Swedish acronyms are almost never spoken out loud, like nobody says strv, they say stridsvagn.
It'd be nice to have real artillery pieces like this that could fire across the map at target's your allies call artillery on. Make the artillery ability a normal feature and not an unlock too. Extend this artillery gameplay feature to all the spg artys in the game too.
This would just turn it into another World of Tanks and the toxicity in the game would sky rocket, don't try to be original with your comment its not a good idea.
@@quelqundu0653 nah man this can and will be done completely different. Here's how I and probably he wants it to be done. I'll organize it like a list so it's easier to understand. 1. Friendly tank spots enemy tank and either via a separate keybind or by just marking the location on the map, the coordinates get sent to the person in the Arty piece who is stationed somewhere outside of the normal battlefield. 2. Arty player receives coordinates and has to plot a firing solution. The coordinates being received could be something like how we have the HUD for radar aa where a mark shows up at a bearing. 3. Once a firing solution is achieved, the Arty player will commence the barrage. They will not be able to follow the shell on its path, only relying on their teammates(and the little hit camera) for adjustments and confirmation of rounds on target. 4. Repeat Remember WT is a completely different game than WoT. CAS and Helis are a thing in WT. Any arty battery will become a very juicy target for any plane in the sky as well as counter battery fire from other players. At top tier, they'd have to have an SPAA player near them at all times because helis would absolutely decimate them. I mean a single Apache or Ka-50 would mean the end of an unprotected battery right there. Even if they implemented WoT mechanics(shell tracking namely), they actually have a counter in WT. It's not something to worry about
Phly!! You should do a video using eye tracking software. I'd love to see how you look at the game and what you look for as your playing. I'm colorblind and often get clapped by tanks that are same colors as their surroundings. You often see the smallest fraction of a barrel through a window a football field away, and I would love to see how you notice that kinda stuff
@@IvanTre Even the 32 Lansen was meant to carry nukes. The official statement from our (the Swedish) government was that Sweden never had any nuke-program... yeah right!
@@heisenb3rg662 there is no evidence this was designed with 155mm nuclear shells in mind, as there are no evidence for such a small nuke being even considered by sweden However its said to be very likely that bkan was intended to use nerve gas, something sweden had stockpiles of
Did my military service at a platoon with four of these, the mechanic in the automatic loading system is truly a engineering master piece, very funny to empty a magazine. Never firered direct fire though, actually all the direct fire capabilities where actually removed before I did my service.
Derp cannon, good mobility, 3 second reload. The only bad thing I can say about this vehicle is that it does not have MG for fences and things like that, and that everyone will know where to shoot to destroy you with a single shot, although for that they will have to see him before he sees you. A cool addition.
You know for sure that that little bit of flimsy camo mesh will eat any caliber shell if it so much as grazes it. Very frustrating when you come in at a slight angle, try to snipe the gunner, but the mesh structure gets in the way and completely erases the shell while the guy using the BKAN misses his first 2 shots by hitting tracks and still ends you with the 3rd one before you finished reloading. I can see this tank(artillery) becoming noob-bait, where people will sit far away and spam half their ammo against 1 tank because they can't aim (and shells exploding by the tiniest leaf of a bush), but eventually get the kill through reload speed, but then run out of ammo and have to hope they have an easily accessible capture point to restock at. It'll be miserable 1v1ing one of these at full ammo, and it'll be miserable driving one of these and having your limited ammo pool get Gaijin'd by bushes fences and tracks/gunbarrels.
We need more British vehicles, where's the AS-90, CVRT scimitar and Scorpion etc etc. Britain has pioneered so many iconic vehicles yet has a crap lineup in game :(
Phly playing with the gun's ridonkulous elevation: "NYOOWWW!!!" TH-cam caption fairy: "you know" Yes, I do know, caption fairy Edit: Also, Phly, if you think those jet sounds are good, you should try to find an airshow with a Harrier demonstration. I had the pleasure of attending one of those, probably 15 or so years ago (I honestly can't remember), and the one thing that stuck with me, other than the Harrier hovering overhead at a 60 degree angle a hundred or so meters overhead, was the sheer, incomparable volume of that thing's engines over an airstrip. The concrete was vibrating, my entire skeleton was vibrating, my eardrums were trying to liquefy, and holy guacamole, would I ever love to experience that sound again. Pro tip, though, I recommend covering your ears anytime they fly directly overhead, because when I say the volume is incomparable, I mean it.
Pretty sure he said he hopes tanks had shell tracking like naval, but with tanks you could spot far too much by just shooting a shell since you could literally just shoot over to the enemy spawn and see everyone
@@gordonramsay6210 it hit the driver port area which is only 40mm of armour And besides t10m is 8.3 the wrong BR for this thing to fight against. Also t10m versus apfds which can front plate them anyway. If you're argument is it can kill a 8.3 tank at 7.0 then you havent played war thunder long enough to know that an ostwind (5.0) can trap shot a is3 (7.0)
Wiki: The Bandkanon 1, abbreviation bkan 1 (meaning "tracked cannon 1"), was a Swedish self-propelled artillery vehicle in use with the Swedish Army from 1967 to 2003. 12:30 o/~ The boyz are back in town... o/~
Ex-m777A2 operator here, the barrels get extremely hot and light up like a christmas tree on thermal cameras, I could see the camo net being used to attempt to diffuse the thermal signature to make the vehicle seem like a less valuable target, we Used camo nets covering our whole gun in an attempt to reduce our thermal signature.
The full name of the BKAN is Bandkanonvagn. It is the fastest firing artillery vehicle in the world.
dont say "a" lika "i" but a like "AA" (long a)
Not best range tho
Yeah,and translates to tracked cannon wagon... There is some evidence towards it also originally was designed for tactical nuke shells before Sweden gave up it's nuclear weapons program.
You say it like “What the hell is this Sweden!”, like that
phull, phastest, phiring
Man thats a nice artillery piece that doesnt have a big enough map for proper use. Well done gaijin amazing work.
Red desert times 9?
Hey they have open sea maps, maybe they'll add an Arty only mode for the mrls, and those Russian rocket trucks n stuff
Are u guys joking it takes 4 minutes to meet the first enemy tank on red desert, now imagine a map twice as big and you’ll be driving for about 10 minutes just to look at someone
@@PhlyDaily they should add the american T92 SPG. With the 9 inch/240 mm howitzer.
I dont think you want 60km long maps lol 👀
It stops the barrel from warping due to differential expansion from sunlight heating the metal. Chieftain had a leather wrap around the barrel fpr the same reasons.
If i remember right it wasnt learher but canvas.
@@armandomarcial4836 you're probably right there buddy.
This isn't true at all, that's a rolled and heat treated steel barrel, it's meant to prevent IR thermal detection from other tanks if it's hidden with camouflage. The barrel is designed to withstand some pretty high temperatures in the first place getting up to like 100 degrees maybe in the sun is not gonna affect the accuracy of a thicc barrel like this.
@@Sam21721 it does, thats why almost all the armed forces uses a Thermal sleeve on the artillery and tanks barrels. You should look into that topic.
As You Say they are designed to withstand high temps but an uneven cooling or heating of the barrel can lead to slight warps that could affect in some way the accuracy at long ranges.
@@Sam21721 dude, you are so wrong it isn't even funny.
And, it's the heat difference between sun lit and shadowed parts of the barrel that bends it away from the sun enough to impair accuracy, especially first shot accuracy.
Would be interesting to see if you could shell the enemy airfield with one of the artillery-type SPGs.
Tested that with the type75 sph on sands of Sinai took a friend to be my spotter so no doubt you could with this
@@Vaepyria13 Did you hit it? With Breaking ground, that could really f up the runway
@@danielross7983 Terrain deformation doesn't affect runways.
Bomb a runway in test drive to check for yourself.
@@danielross7983 yeah I hit it after a while since I had to shoot from my cap point for ammo
@@JM64 I could see that being a decent way of balancing planes in GRB
Man, gaijin needs to add that camo mesh to tank models in the game, would make it feel so much more personalized. The Leos especially look so naked without it
I totally agree I would pay money for it
buy branches, it's not the same but it's close enough
@@RomanTheMexican they are expensive AF for how shitty they look.
Damn imma pay for that decorates
I would love it to be modification (like add on armor) but instead of them all being fixed static objects i would love to be able to place it myself. Like a sticker or smthn
What if ?: Instead of bushes for camo, we can interchange different camo netting. Drape right over what ever actual camo you have set, but you can cover either the whole tank in netting or specific. Think about it regular olive drab Leo with snow white netting draped. It's a really nice aesthetic.
Camo drapes would look badass. Personally, I would not mind if they overhauled customization features as a major update. Would have enjoyed such an update compared to useless dozers that don't see actual use in battles.
And cammo parasols!
@@foods3019 me who literally wastes 10 minutes digging a hole at spawn because haha funne
yeah I've been trying to get camo netting added through the forums, but no luck. Moderator is telling me that it doesn't have enough interest, although I'm seeing hundreds of people on Reddit and the forums wanting it. Would be awesome.
On large maps the artillery players should get an azimuth and elevation cue to fire at from players calling arty strikes. With each shot they fire at the cue it gets more precise.
Or at the very least from allied vehicles that have scouting. And if they scout the same target again after you fire, it could give you a more precise cue because they reported your fall of shot.
I genuinely feel like the coolest tanks in this game are always the oddballs. This has to be one of the coolest tanks in the game by far
Same here I just like all the weird quirky vehicles
@@hullabaloo6054 bUt It'S nOt A tAnK
@@hullabaloo6054 For example the R3
@@tutes0133 Exactly. It's a self propelled artillery system that also happened to both be heaviest and fastest firing in the world. Too bad it's retired.
I'm a _blitz_ player and watch your videos they're so good. I don't even play War Thunder and I'm still subscribed. I owe you thanks Phly. Thanks for kicking ass at this game. It shows what a complete different game and how much more realistic War Thunder is
I've seen this artillery system before! Though it was mounted on a truck I think. To reload the magazine(?) they use a crane to just replace the whole compartment.
This was the precursor to the Archer mobile artillery system
yup, the archer system, this was before it
@@HinFoo actually we had Haub 77 in between the archer and Bkan 1. And I would rather say that Haub 77 is more relative with Archer instead of Bkan 1
@@aceette5231 Archer is litterally an upgrade for the Haub77.
They litterally scrapped ALL of the Swedish Armys Haub77 pieces for some of the parts to build the Archers.
@@SonsOfLorgar Where did you get that info? We sold almost all of the 77 system to Estland, along with our Ak4s, radios, CGs, Bandvagnar etc.
At this point im wondering why they dont have more ww2 arty and the m109? Im guessing balancing reasons since theyre just gonna be played as td’s since player arty isnt a thing i guess
Maybe because they don't care about WW2 anymore :-(
Artyllery in WoT can give you a reason for it, they have overhead view of the map so they just click and annoy people. But, if you remove the overhead view, they become really hard to play (as real life artyllery requires maths). If Gajin found a way to make them work without overhead view, tank players would complain because player controlled artyllery shots can destroy ANYTHING.
@@nicolash.134 True, such a shame that they are locking away all the new content in high tier so it's inaccessible to new players.
@@yoshineitor They could give arty a range estimate within a few hundred meters when an enemy is spotted. Say an enemy gets scouted, the arty gets something like enemy at 241 degrees, 2.4km to 2.6km out and its up to the arty player to range in on it. Though this would be more of a gimmick as arty would just go direct fire 99% of the time
Bandkanon1 is not a ww2 tank, late 40s. Bofors sweden, German tiger1 had anti-aircraft gun from bofors sweden i think :/
Wish this game had a type of player based artillery long range, {not like world of tanks top down view} that mostly work together with scout tanks scouting, which will makes the random arty spam a thing of the past, cause using artillery tanks as a frontline tank is strategically redundant,and would make for more teamwork play viable
it would still be arty spam, just more controlled because it wouldnt have WoT's random 8m spread for fun mechanic
This opens the door to a nice idea (I hope - I'm sure comments will tell) Why not have the opening lobby (and only the initial hangar) with role slots... Scouts, Tanks, AA and Arty (and Helo support in high tier) - People choose their opening vehicle according to open slots in each category, and Arty has a spawn point maybe near the Helo bases... they have to rely on scouts to get targets, but then the Arty group could be responsible for answering arty calls... with it going back to the usual if no one is left alive in that group... CAS could go after artillery pieces (which could also be protected by AA players or AI)...
Just an idea... I have no clue as to whether this would be implementable...
World of tanks says this is a shit idea please dont
I'd like to try this in an event!
@@Cuteseals2 I've never played it.... they have this?
@@danielross7983 kinda arty can just use a special sight that allows them to shoot enemies across the map as along as they are spotted by an ally...
Essentially just death from above and nothing you can do about it
Teamwork in War Thunder? Yeaaaah no..
I knew you were recording! I was the T-80. Decided to cease fire after someone wrote it in the chat that it is you. Had a good laugh watching this :D
Nicccce hey bro how does dev server work?
Honestly pretty cool 😂
Bless your heart!
@@PhlyDaily does it give you money to test stuff on the dev server?
Object 120: *"Finally, a worthy opponent, Our battle will be legendary!"*
not on the distance, oblyat shoots dart - Bandkanonenvagen dead.
bro, the IKV 91 with its laser rangefinder is already a worthy opponent (if not an unfair one) lmao
you did not damage yourself. That system seems to be connected to the engine mechanic in WT so if you damage your engine and/or turn it off, and your battery counter hits 0, the reload seems to be longer
Well it’s electric and if you run out of it - it should stop working.
Phly: "There's no Y's or no vowel here"
A: "Am i a joke to you?"
Yeah brain smooth sometimes
I love it when philydaily play with it its BIG CANNON 11:21
I hope soon they make an update with spy planes, they can spawn at high altitudes and can have a scouting mechanic, just imagine having a U-2 fly over the battle field
would be amazing for realistic battles, where AWACS scanning, radar and imaging replaces the mini map... but they you'd have to do so so much more... it's all very complicated, and for obvious reasons, the inner workings of modern military equipment isn't freely available to the public.... This is DCS type stuff, and even DCS can't figure it out completely... to balance this stuff would be a nightmare.
@@marinodezelak1180 gaijin wouldn’t be up to the challenge at all
Me and my playing group have been crying out for this for a while. Allowing them to call in arty as well would be interesting. No MG's, bombs, or anything like that. Just pure scout planes.
We also wanna see willy jeeps etc that purely scout, but can also work as ammo dumps for team mates.
@@markgregory983 man that first part you said about scouting, I fully agree. I would love if only scout vehicles could spot things. I’m tired of all the bs where you get hit by shrapnel or an mg and suddenly everyone knows where you are. The little damage/kill cam you get in the corner of your screen should be removed too. Would make realistic battles a whole lot more interesting
They did the Scout
The Bandkanon was the largest armored vehicle in production for the entirety of its production. It also holds the record for the fastest-firing howitzer, being able to fire 15 rounds in under 45 seconds. Also, because the entire ammo rack is technically a clip, the Bandkanon is also armed with the world's largest autocannon.
This makes me wish the BatChat 155 gets in the game (and it should, given that French TD tree is in need of some actually French vehicles)
I also wish the EMIL series of heavy tanks get added to the Swedish tech tree, given that the Bandkanon 1 chassis (and surprisingly enough, also the gun system) is actually a modified Kranvagn chassis
also 9:57:
> tracers are good because we see where they're going
Tracers are bad *precisely because* everyone and their mother can see where they're going. One of the best things about the Type 75 SPH and the Lorraine 37L is that their tracerless shells allow you to snipe without getting seen by the enemy.
The Bkan 1 prototype ; AKV 151 was based on a KRV chassis, with the same turret the Bkan 1 has. Bkan 1 is based on a 103 chassis
Also, Phly attempting to replicate the crew command dialogue is hilarious as ever ^^
For anyone that's curious his "Mister Moon!" is actually "Nästa Mål!" = "Next Target!"
The Bkan 1C is the predecessor to the Archer Artillery platform.
It was never put in to serial production but it was pland to have 500 of them to defend Sweden against the entire Russian Tank Army in the 1970is..
It is one of the best Artillery systems ever made
And it was made for a 3man crew and not a 5man
The problem is its amounition storage and reload of the Artillery magazine.
@@setaripantheon8801 actually we had a artillery piece named Haub 77 in between the Archer and Bkan 1. And the Archer is more related to the Haub 77 than the Bkan1
@@aceette5231 the Archer IS the Haub77 on a modern platform, and no the Haub77 did not replace the Bkan, they served together as complementary assets. Similiar to how the Strv103 and the Centurions complemented eachother.
@@SonsOfLorgar there were a time of about 8 years were only the Haub 77 were in use and the Bkan wasn’t. It wasn’t in use because it couldn’t shot long enough as the haub 77 could.
hey Phly a lot of long range precision shooters use what looks like a canvas strap on top of their barrel so that the heat waves (radiant heat) off their barrel generated from firing gets dispersed from the scope of the rifle, probably the same for this tank as well! Its called a mirage shield!
I must say it looks a little weird to see the Bkan in a direct fire role. It was developed as an indirect weapons platform...
I mean same thing happens with the katyusha ;p
Soo this is a proper artillery wagon. with a 47kg payload with a range up to 25 Km. thats some girth
Day 104: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping.
Have some hope, and maybe he will do it in 5 months!
once he does, id like him to play the su100p
Day 105: No.
The best part is the enemy escorting Phly around xD 12:11
I had a military jet fly over my high school in Sweden like a week ago and gaijin really did nail that sound!
Vilket flygplan?
@@eliasgimberg9292 ingen aning men troligen någon Gripen modell
As the jet goes over in the hangar screen:
"We have three point two second reload. That's extrem.... SQUIRREL!!"
Although to be fair, I'm exactly like that when any kind of plane goes over.
Self propelled howitzers like paladin and crusader are coming.
When the bkan machine exceeds ten percent *bkan*
Gaijin put the most powerful self propelled gun in the entire -game- _World_ at 7.0, nice one gaijin.
Other than that, super excited for the new tank.
Chill it’s the first dev server
@Yu Yy that doesn't excuse the fact that it's balanced horribly. It should be obvious that this thing belongs nowhere lower than 8.0 but Gaijin just keeps pushing the compression and hurting the game for profit. The fact is that this is the BR they are looking to put it at, and at that BR it is completely unacceptable. Large HE is one of the most annoying types of shells to deal with in the game, and they put this out
@@talandar5773 Na you just want the game to be easier for you. I don’t see a problem lmao.
Its paper , slow, almost no turret traverse, it is ok at 7.0 with all the marders and wiesels and bmps
did anyone read the "work in progress" text or they can't even read?
I love the new jet thing they added in the garage 2:36 I appreciate the small details
Cant wait for a “the bkan is balanced” video
That gives "fire for effect" a whole new meaning.
And they were organized in formations of 12 pieces...
The Swedish are impressive engineers in building armoured vehicles
South Africa needs the G6 155 mm rhino.
It was designed for artillery but it also has anti tank capabilities. It also drives fast as hell.
Gaijin nerfed the ratels speed do you think they'll allow that beast to be fast😔. There's also a possibility for there to be 2 variants G6 Rhino and the G6-52 and theres also the valkerie and the bateleur🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
Bandkanon 1 actually have significantly higher muzzle velocity then SAV.
Bandkanon 1 have 850 m/s vs SAV 525 m/s.
It's a shortening of the word Bandkanon (tracked cannon). Swedish acronyms are almost never spoken out loud, like nobody says strv, they say stridsvagn.
It'd be nice to have real artillery pieces like this that could fire across the map at target's your allies call artillery on. Make the artillery ability a normal feature and not an unlock too. Extend this artillery gameplay feature to all the spg artys in the game too.
As a wot player who play war thunder NO thanks
Tell me you've never played WoT without telling me you've never played WoT
This would just turn it into another World of Tanks and the toxicity in the game would sky rocket, don't try to be original with your comment its not a good idea.
@@quelqundu0653 nah man this can and will be done completely different.
Here's how I and probably he wants it to be done. I'll organize it like a list so it's easier to understand.
1. Friendly tank spots enemy tank and either via a separate keybind or by just marking the location on the map, the coordinates get sent to the person in the Arty piece who is stationed somewhere outside of the normal battlefield.
2. Arty player receives coordinates and has to plot a firing solution. The coordinates being received could be something like how we have the HUD for radar aa where a mark shows up at a bearing.
3. Once a firing solution is achieved, the Arty player will commence the barrage. They will not be able to follow the shell on its path, only relying on their teammates(and the little hit camera) for adjustments and confirmation of rounds on target.
4. Repeat
Remember WT is a completely different game than WoT. CAS and Helis are a thing in WT. Any arty battery will become a very juicy target for any plane in the sky as well as counter battery fire from other players. At top tier, they'd have to have an SPAA player near them at all times because helis would absolutely decimate them. I mean a single Apache or Ka-50 would mean the end of an unprotected battery right there.
Even if they implemented WoT mechanics(shell tracking namely), they actually have a counter in WT. It's not something to worry about
@@OtterTreySSArmy ok its smart
Phly!! You should do a video using eye tracking software. I'd love to see how you look at the game and what you look for as your playing. I'm colorblind and often get clapped by tanks that are same colors as their surroundings. You often see the smallest fraction of a barrel through a window a football field away, and I would love to see how you notice that kinda stuff
Fun fact: this thing was created to become most fast firing nuclear cannon, not for artillery use like.
BS, Sweden scrapped its nuclear program before this was designed.
@@IvanTre not designed, but created
@@IvanTre Even the 32 Lansen was meant to carry nukes. The official statement from our (the Swedish) government was that Sweden never had any nuke-program... yeah right!
No it was not..
It Sweden have never had a Nuclear Weapons program!
This was ment to have 500 of them to defeat the entire Russian Tank Army!
@@heisenb3rg662 there is no evidence this was designed with 155mm nuclear shells in mind, as there are no evidence for such a small nuke being even considered by sweden
However its said to be very likely that bkan was intended to use nerve gas, something sweden had stockpiles of
Did my military service at a platoon with four of these, the mechanic in the automatic loading system is truly a engineering master piece, very funny to empty a magazine. Never firered direct fire though, actually all the direct fire capabilities where actually removed before I did my service.
Day 283: Phly, I challenge you to get 8 kills in one game with the SU-5-1. This MBT/Tank Destroyer is severely underloved in your channel.
And?
MBT??? What drugs are you on?
i used the SU-5-1 on 3.3 and man it,s still good to use
so high br not bad
Derp cannon, good mobility, 3 second reload. The only bad thing I can say about this vehicle is that it does not have MG for fences and things like that, and that everyone will know where to shoot to destroy you with a single shot, although for that they will have to see him before he sees you. A cool addition.
It has probably the worst mobility of all high tier tanks, hé was just playing in arcade.
You know for sure that that little bit of flimsy camo mesh will eat any caliber shell if it so much as grazes it. Very frustrating when you come in at a slight angle, try to snipe the gunner, but the mesh structure gets in the way and completely erases the shell while the guy using the BKAN misses his first 2 shots by hitting tracks and still ends you with the 3rd one before you finished reloading.
I can see this tank(artillery) becoming noob-bait, where people will sit far away and spam half their ammo against 1 tank because they can't aim (and shells exploding by the tiniest leaf of a bush), but eventually get the kill through reload speed, but then run out of ammo and have to hope they have an easily accessible capture point to restock at.
It'll be miserable 1v1ing one of these at full ammo, and it'll be miserable driving one of these and having your limited ammo pool get Gaijin'd by bushes fences and tracks/gunbarrels.
I have seen one irl, it was massive. The shell was as big as my leg!
Day 214:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 37MM/23MM Vodka launcher Jet.
I really want this
Your faith is incredible, i hope that phly hear you.
Lovely idea! 👍
5:01 looks like something straight out of halo
Biggest Meatball launcher so far 🤣
This tank is actually Mr Boombastic.
Best arty piece in Wargame RD
Hahahah.
Commander: Fiende nerkämpad!
Phly: hurukmp mallaknamb
We need more British vehicles, where's the AS-90, CVRT scimitar and Scorpion etc etc. Britain has pioneered so many iconic vehicles yet has a crap lineup in game :(
As a ex AS-90 gunner, I agree! We need more of our own!
Aaah, the legendary Bandkanon!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Phly playing with the gun's ridonkulous elevation: "NYOOWWW!!!"
TH-cam caption fairy: "you know"
Yes, I do know, caption fairy
Edit: Also, Phly, if you think those jet sounds are good, you should try to find an airshow with a Harrier demonstration. I had the pleasure of attending one of those, probably 15 or so years ago (I honestly can't remember), and the one thing that stuck with me, other than the Harrier hovering overhead at a 60 degree angle a hundred or so meters overhead, was the sheer, incomparable volume of that thing's engines over an airstrip. The concrete was vibrating, my entire skeleton was vibrating, my eardrums were trying to liquefy, and holy guacamole, would I ever love to experience that sound again. Pro tip, though, I recommend covering your ears anytime they fly directly overhead, because when I say the volume is incomparable, I mean it.
Phly in naval you can already track shells, and yes it is good for torpedo spotting.
Pretty sure he said he hopes tanks had shell tracking like naval, but with tanks you could spot far too much by just shooting a shell since you could literally just shoot over to the enemy spawn and see everyone
Day 282: play HMS invincible to experience the things that make me depressed
It comes with its own camouflage on the gun life hacks XD
I'm surprised that this thing came out, i played wargame and this thing obliterated every enemy inf 😬
And obliterates supplies lol, people will hate you on both teams
It is nice until the USSR players decide to smerch your face and half the map :D
@@lordofkiwi5144 if the players are unaware the mlrs could be deadly indeed
@@republic0_032 true
@@lordofkiwi5144 Shoot and scoot
-Mister Bkan 1C?
-Uhm, yes?
-Mister SAV 20.12.48 sends his regards.
I can’t wait for another thank that can effortlessly pen all the heavy tanks at its BR with a 3.2 second reload.
It cant, its only he
Well heavy tanks need a counter smh. Do you want heavy tanks to be invincible?
@@gearlust8923 Did you not watch the video it knocks out the T10M with a shot to the front plate without issue.
@@gordonramsay6210 it hit the driver port area which is only 40mm of armour
And besides t10m is 8.3 the wrong BR for this thing to fight against.
Also t10m versus apfds which can front plate them anyway.
If you're argument is it can kill a 8.3 tank at 7.0 then you havent played war thunder long enough to know that an ostwind (5.0) can trap shot a is3 (7.0)
I saw that few years ago in swedish tank museum Arsenalen. That barrel was huge compared to everything else.
Only that vehicle is the proof of concept prototype. One of the real service vehicles sits at Wendes Artillerimuseum, N Åsum, Kristianstad.
Day 4. You should revisit the R3 just to be that player and I love you
Gaijin actualy came to the regiment where i work to record the sound of a real life BKAN.
I19?
2:32
You can notice on his silence that he liked
I quit WT a while ago, but this tank might bring me back for a bit if it actually works like this in the actual game.
All this time and fences are still the ultimate armor.
Wiki: The Bandkanon 1, abbreviation bkan 1 (meaning "tracked cannon 1"), was a Swedish self-propelled artillery vehicle in use with the Swedish Army from 1967 to 2003.
12:30 o/~ The boyz are back in town... o/~
The definition if "we have HVSS at home"
Seeing the Type 10 and Mig-27K in the kill feed puts a smile on my face
There’s already a battle barn so imma call this the War-drobe cos the ammo rack container looks like one lmfao
i love phly constantly having to stop talking to let some jet phly by with the new sound
I think that proper artillery has yet to be portrayed really well in a game. I think there’s so much promise in it.
Bandkanon is best boy, also I despise the shortening of the vehicle names, especially the sweidhs ones.
Never thought id see the bandkanonvagn in the game. I love my home country.
Sweden already by favorite tree. Can't wait for the BKAN to come out
your reload is faster than the panther's turret turns.
omg i love this its soo funny "hold on lemme just line it up" *gunner* "you ready!?
*loader* no..... NOW" *gunner* "on the way phly!"
@PhlyDaily - Bkan 1c is the short form of Bandkanon 1c. it means it could instantly fire the rounds.... because of the fast reload.
Up here in the north of Sweden we pronounce Bkan as "Bee-Cans" as it is short for BandKANon 1.
looking forward to your fd being a spotter and they call u in/give u adjustment and u fire as an artillery
only thing that sucks is in war thunder ur forced to use an artillery as a tank destroyer
War Thunder needs large maps to use artillery as they are supposed to be used.
yeah a 155mm cannon with 3.2 second reload is going to get really hot
this is like the bigger version of the spj fm/43-44
this is a Swedish spg would be nice to use for indirect fire
Oh hey, I managed to make it into a video again. I'm the F-105 that bombed a random tank. How interesting...
Every new arti or tank you review, I search for its real life image / videos.
phly you can track shells in naval. hold down the fire button after firing primary armament
Bandkanonvagn, transl. "Belt Cannon Vehicle" -> artillery with high reload rate, that's the whole concept of this vehicle.
Bkan stands for BandKanon, translates basicly to tracked canon.
It would be cool if War Thunder could implement indirect fire for those tanks.
About the time they implement indirect fire. Arty isn't the same as assault gun or tank destroyer.
When you order a KANNOŃESWEGĄN from IKEA:
What is the point of having an artillery call if they keep adding artillery pieces to the front line.
This might be the derpiest tank ever
When that jet crashed, that sound, damn
Ex-m777A2 operator here, the barrels get extremely hot and light up like a christmas tree on thermal cameras, I could see the camo net being used to attempt to diffuse the thermal signature to make the vehicle seem like a less valuable target, we Used camo nets covering our whole gun in an attempt to reduce our thermal signature.