Switzerland's Red Camouflage: Taz 57 & 83 aka Alpenflage and The M70 Uniform | Uniform History
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- In this episode we cover one of the weirder camouflages seen on the world stage: Switzerland's Leibermuster Camouflage aka Alpenflage as well as the uniforms associated with the pattern.
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Thanks for making this video! This is my favorite pattern as it is all I use for airsoft. One quick correction though is that the real usage of red was not for absorbing infrared light (that is what the black "drips" were for), but rather to increase its effectiveness from a distance. This is because the color red has the longest wavelength of light making it the hardest color for the human eye to identify. From a distance it becomes a brownish color (which blends in the best with almost any vegetation), which is why during WW2 it was to fill the role as a Universal pattern. Early Multicam.
Brendan Weller pinned this comment to the top, thanks for the correction.
Brendan Weller my uncle was in the Swiss Army at time it was been used.
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Actually, the swiss army and their fancy uniforms were already mentioned in the bible:
"...thee who dresssed themselves in strange cloth and wandered about in search of a mission..."
that's at least what my dad told me...
@@JosipRadnik1 i might get r/whooshed but which part of the Bible did that came from?
@@JosipRadnik1 not only your dad said so. This was THE meme in every recruits school.
The Swiss army tents still feature this pattern. It's absolutely amazing in fallen leaves and rocky terrain.
I live in Wisconsin USA and up here this uniform does extremely well in mixed deciduous/pine forests in every season but winter. I was told (I don’t know if it’s true or not) that the subconscious mind needs to see red to be comfortable in an environment where red is a part of the landscape. Its not just a “autumn/fall“ camo. Many bushes and the branches of those bushes are a deep red or maroon. The ice blue in my set matches perfectly with the moss growing at the base on most of the many pine trees in the North Woods of The Great Lakes region.
Minnesotan here -- I've worn this pattern pretty well constantly for the past several years, and I echo this comment 100%. It's unreasonably good for our environment.
It works well in Michigan, too.
California…matches the poison oak LOL
I'm from Ontario and now live in BC -- there are parts of the Canadian Shield with pink/red igneous rock exposed, and along with autumn foliage, sometimes new leaves have a reddish tinge. Then there are trees/shrubs like red osier dogwood and arbutus, where it comes out in the bark. I had thought that this camo pattern would stand out, but it's interesting how well it can work. (Especially at a distance.)
I had a Alpenflage jacket that I had picked up at a Bike rally years ago. it was brilliant. the hood was so big you could wear a helmet underneath it. I think the only critique of the jacket I had was that you had to balance the jacket properly if you wore it with the clip on rucksack. if the ruck sack (i used it for work) was full you needed something in the 2 large front pockets to counter balance or the top of the zip pressed uncomfortably against your throat. thats if you even needed the rucksack, the pockets are so damned big and you have so many of them you can fit everything into just the jacket!
it was also big enough that during the winter I could comfortably wear a thick woolly hooded jumper underneath the jacket as extra insulation. I didnt buy a new winter coat for 5 years because of that jacket.
I have the full uniform. I used to use it for airsoft. Found out I would never have to buy a tactical rig, since I could fit everything I needed in the hundreds of huge pockets.
You forgot the short sleeves, lol
The outfit was suppose to hold:
6 full Magazines for the Fass57 in the breast pockets
6 hand grenades HG43 in the leg pockets
2 rifle grenades 58 in the backpack, also known as Gazarusa or Karusa
assorted equipment in various other pockets and a breadpack attached to the packpack.
In the end the poor bloke was carrying around something like 20 kgs of equipment including his personal weapon, the Fass57.
With all that stuff packed the backpack had little weight shifting influence but also it was rather uncomfy to walk around.
Final touch, in 1983 we got the flack jackets that were supposed to fit under the vest and we were issued the "static troop" model weighing 17 kgs, I was a Heavy Mortarman, the 12 cm stuff.
3:52 The veil intended meant as a sniper veil but rather as IR concealment. The fabric was treated with IR blocking material to make the face less visible with IR detection.
This is the channel i need in my life. Video was awesome can’t wait to see more
hello , I have yugoslavian M89 do you know why the magnet does not attract him? best regards
@@calymokry1589 it has nonmagnetic metal. My ww2 mk2 helmet isn't magnetic either. I believe I read somewhere that it isn't magnetic so that it doesn't distract compasses.
this Camo has the best Nickname here in Switzerland, we call it the "Pizza-TAZ" (TAZ is the German-ish abbreviation for BDU) and the "Vierfrucht Oyjama" goes for the new TAZ90 and the in developement TAZ2020 as they too have 4 Colors
Perfect french accent I must say
Also
4:15 *HERE COMES THE SWISS WONDERWAFFE*
The army doens't used TAZ 57 in uniforms anymore, the only items we still use in the old pattern are tarps and sometimes OpFor use it too
Honestly this camo works very well in Europe in most conditions. The reds look more like browns at any reasonable distance and blend in very well with the ground and tree bark. It is especially effective in autumn/winter (when it isn't snowing) but it works surprisingly well even in spring/summer.
You just have to remember most camo is meant to be viewed from a distance so while it might look slightly weird from up close once you're 50 yards away its very effective
Thanks so much for this video. A year ago, I picked up to what I now know, the Taz-83 jacket, at a surplus store for $5. It is my fall/winter/early spring airsoft and hunting camoflauge now. This camoflauge is very interesting and this is the first comprehensive history I've seen on it.
Bought the poncho for about $7 on Amazon a few years back. It’s fantastic
an old boss of mine said I looked like an explosion in a paint factory. lol.
4:00 Panzergrenadier look so cool here!
I watched this video about a year ago and I had never even heard of this camouflage or the uniforms they made with it printed on it, but after watching I bought some M70 Swiss pants and coat, along with other things and it’s became my favorite pattern. The Swiss know what they were doing.
This channel is dope. Instantly subscribed.
Naturally, the first set I ordered from Sportsman's Guide, nearly 30 years ago came in too small - but it did have the veil attached to the hood and was nearly new condition. I should have kept it but gave the jacket and trousers to my secretary's son. The proper sized set I I got in replacement isn't nearly as nice but here it is almost 30 years later and I still have it. HEAVY!
There is a 1990s Outer Limits episode on right now titled STARCROSSED. They're wearing this pattern.
Thanks for the video. I'm watching from Bolivia 🇧🇴.
Thanks for the video. I'm watching form Bolivia 🇧🇴.
Loved this video! I had no idea this channel existed, I’m psyched!
A little late to the party but this pattern also does very well in some parts of the Appalachian mountains near or in North Carolina during the fall season, the flora there is very different compared to a lot of places in the United States and a lot of the trees and shrubs turn red.
these swiss camo uniforms are often referred to as 'pizzaflauge' due to its resemblance to pizza toppings,lol
My favorite pattern, nothing blends as well in late fall and winter in a hardwood forest.
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@@jodywatkins9467 I appreciate the link but I was already one of his subscribers from way back. Actually that video is how I found his channel!
Good pattern for much of Pennsylvania for much of the year.
They added black for infrared threats not the red. No one used black in camo before that. You can see how they added the black to some splinter splinter camo zeltbahn when night vision hit the scene. Some SS smocks appeared to have black but were in fact originally designated 'carbon' colors of very dark greens or browns that became black to do wartime shortages of quality fabric dye.. The Wehrmacht and SS were switching to Liebermuster as a universal 4 season camo with night vision defying properties, (The black) .. The red was added to soften the brown and to give it a sustained pattern at distance so it kept its camo ability at distances unlike other camo patterns that morph into a solid color at distance..
Also they said that the red an green mix, would turn into an brown tone at the distance 🤔 greetings from a swiss army veteran
It's actually red that turns into brown.
@Goat Man sadly no every but for some ppl it would be necessary if they would do it😂
Just discovered this awesome channel! Not enough channels talk in depth about camo
From what I understand the Alpenflage pattern was chosen because Swiss military strategists were convinced that if the soviets were to attack during the cold war, it would take place in the Fall, thus their reason for choosing an autumn pattern, this seems to be the same tactical choice the Belgians made by using a purple/yellow dominant pattern in their jigsaw. This "one season" pattern choice also makes sense given the cold war tactic of the Swiss military, which was to hold out in the low lands as long as needed to allow for the population and military to retreat to the alps and resist from there. There, the swiss military had a different uniform for mountain combat which is mostly OD green.
It's close to rock color slight greenish /brown
Switzerland, West Germany, Czechoslovakia and Spain all used Leibermuster, with Czechoslovakia using different shapes when compared ot the others.
Swiss, SS and Spanish Leibermuster used long shapes, with the black overprint especiallly having a shape like the black shapes on birch skin.
The base fabric is the bottom layer, with some examples having white spots and splotches, with green overprint sometimes going on top of these splotches.
TAZ90 is simply a "frozen" version with no overprint effects.
Oh, if I'd ever get the tiles for all the overprints...
awesome!
Keep up the good work. Love camo and the history of it!
the tax 57 jacked is just amazing, it take the idea of the smog 20years before.
I have no idea why but in late 1993, early 1994 South Africa was flooded with Swiss camo, I was a collector and actually found a full set, backpack included, at a privately owned alternative type clothing store in a small strip mall in a small town in Southern Johannesburg...
Cool stuff man and yeah i love my m70 pizzaflage i wear it all the time here in Japan. I do music and film production the pockets come in handy.
Very well done videos. Thanks for posting
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Vinnie
The first Camo Jacket I got, was in this pattern. Still got it, more than 15 years later.... :-)
Love these videos man, keep it up!
Basically me, at age 20! The big downside, during winter, you had to put all your insulation layers under the vest, which was cumbersome (OK, for static duty, we had the infamous _Yeti_ , WW2-era goatskin coat and wooden clogs). And once wet, the whole thing never dries.
I have a M70 combat suit,and I think
the biggest problem with this combat suit is that the cotton material tends to be water absorption and cumbersome.
Yes -- I'm on the west coast where it rains a lot at certain times of the year. Cotton's definitely a hypothermia risk -- plus mildew if you haven't got a place to dry out the gear. A friend who works with unhoused people asked if I could come up with packs to hold their possessions ... while it may be convenient for them to be able to have jackets with big pockets like these ones, rather than packs that could be stolen, I've had to tell her that the cotton could be a problem, at least in the rainy season.
I saw that Swiss Army Knife joke coming a mile away.
You should do strichtarn, I’d love to know what the story behind that could be
On the topic of camo that contains red, have you guys thought about doing a video on the Belgian "jigsaw" pattern?
Thank you!! I’ve been trying to figure out the name of this Camo. I’m getting my Ruger p95dc slide done in Camo and now I know what it’s called!
I have tested this. Good against IR illuminators and image intensifiers.
I got the whole Set from these, very good Quality an its useful 👍
want want want want want i have always wondered which country it was with the red uniforms as i remember seeing a movie when i was 6 where someone ran into a spec ops squad made of different nationalities, one of the guys had a red camo uniform that blended perfectly in the movie. never found the movie ever again though. great video
Xíren Seo I don’t know what movie that is but I will try to find it
i would love to actually watch it while having a brain
Xíren Seo yeah that’s how I think when I’m looking for something that I liked as a kid
Tengo este uniforme, incluyendo el casco...es muy bonito.
I had to wear this piece of ... when I was in the army. It's hot in summer, cold in winter, very heavy and as we were not allowed to wash them for a pretending thermal protection powder in them, they stink very bad.
Never hear about not to wash them ill have done it many times
The lies the army tells you huh?
@@panchopistola8298 Noooo, the army would never lie to us.
@@petittoto7433 never ever ever …. Integrity is their #1 motto
If you have ever seen how well camouflaged a tiger in the jungle is, you wouldn't be wondering about having red in your pattern.
Also most animals cant see the colour red (its greenish for them and blends in with the surroundings), while for humans the colour red is just at the edge of the wavelength for what we can see. So it is effective but at some distance, while tigers get pretty close to their victim to be able to eat them. Either way i commend the Germans for coming up with such effective camouflage during wartime.
Love this pattern. I have the jacket you described. The amount of pockets is insane and the backpack is great. Do you think you could do a video on Belgian Jigsaw pattern? Another favourite of mine and a beautiful pattern.
You should do one about the helmet 1918/40 its a great helmet and quite odd as well
By the way, Tarnanzug = "Camouflage suit". "Tenue d'Assaut" (pronounced "tenew da-sow" in North American) = "Kampfanzug" = Assault Uniform. :)
Which is why the later uniform with the same pattern got a new number - cos TAZ refers to the AZ ("Anzug" = suit) not the T ("Tarn" = Camouflage) :)
Surprisingly effective in both the desert and mountains of Utah. Love it.
Does great in AZ too!
I would say Tarnanzug translates more to camouflage suit than combat suit
Tarn/ung =camouflage
Anzug=suit
I love these
I always loved alpenflage so I picked up what was unbeknownst to me a full m70 uniform years ago. It's surprisingly heavy.
Today I learned that Nazi Germany first stated using inferred / night vision technology in 1939. That is mind blowing
Not in 39 in 44 yes
Attn.: TH-cam, just because I watch one video on a subject, that does not mean I want to see 500 suggestions in a row on my feed on the same subject.
There's no "reserve forces" in Swiss army and the old camo is not in use since a very long time. But thank you for you great video
I own the hat. I've seen the jacket that mounted pack and pockets for all the gear at surplus store about 20 years ago. I never heard it called the four fruit pattern. I've always known as the minestrone pattern. The one big thing about that pattern was that it was never released into the public. The uniform had to be returned to the government. The line of thinking was that the Swiss didn't want the uniform getting into the hands of an invading force and then would be able to blend in with legitimate Swiss forces. Before they changed the pattern the complete uniform would sell for $1500 and up. That was back in the 80s so you may as well quadruple that by today's prices. I think I've seen every piece in a surplus store now. Most of it barely used.
Not for that reason we dont sell our surplus when you need to equip 800'000 men during the hot part of cold war we simply keep it for later use some was repaired.
How hard is it to find the hood to the alpenflage tanker suit. I'm in search for one . Lmk if it's possible or ridiculously hard.
There will always be something special about this uniform, sucks it doesn't have a real use here in SoCal
Interesting.
It reminds me of the Belgian pattern-that one contains a lot of red-brown.
It’s great for fall for sure
Another reason for the red in the camo is due to alot of the dirt (atleast in zug) having a sort of reddish colour to it because of iron in the ground
I have some of that. Very interesting origin story
Got a pair of pants. Really like them.
At least in the footage that camo looks really good
Do an episode on the colourful Belgian Camo
Jigsaw?
The Brazilian lizard camo.
Intresting video
Cool vid ghetto channel
When will came the video about Leibermuster?
I love this camo. It's great stuff and looks cool. I have a full suit and can confirm it's good. Thanks for this vid. Consider yourself having a new subscriber. #9832.
the M70 was used by the Albanian Separatist movement in Kosovë the KLA or (UCK)
It’s crazy to think red can be used as camouflage
Camouflage Designers: Who in their right mind would use the colour red on their patterns?! Red doesn’t naturally occur in landscapes.
Australian Outback: I’m about to end this mans whole career.
DO EAST GERMAN CAMO! BLUMEN AND SPLINTER!
Nice videos
Please do the German Leibermuster M45?
im from swiss, you need to know the alpine force use a camouflage like that but the new model, i read her in coments one dude says it is for long distance and this are corect, also the rifels and mine-launcher and machineguns are specialy made for long distance shoting and enormus accurate
you cant fire down the hill accurate with static-mg and normal scope
Trying to collect a full early Alpenflage uniform, anyone here know what all I'll need? I have the 1960's mountain boots, multi use garissoncap and the heavy weight parka, pants and backpack
The helmet cover
I own a part of pants with the camo it has the same buttons and belt loops
I think a better name for this pattern is “Swiss chocolate and money camouflage”
You're so funny and yours in the US oppression and coups pattern ?
М -70 по функционалу в своё время не имела равных!!!!!! Камуфляж тоже своеобразен....
Hi! Can you do a video on german and danish flecktarn? Tnx!
A rare glimpse of Lieberemuster can be seen in the 1955 Czechoslovakian film made about the World War II Eastern Front titled "The Tank Brigade. "Three thousand members of the Czechoslovak People's Army participated in the film." This lends credence that the uniform printing equipment was located in Czechoslovakia. Maybe even during WWII as it appears only a few German units in Slovakia and the Balkans were issued Liebermuster. See it here - th-cam.com/video/rA36zkrbDug/w-d-xo.html
Yeah while western Germany and Prussia was occupied by the Allies, parts of Central Europe was still held by the Germans. i don't know why we got to rationalise it as Czechs getting the machines used for this camo after the war instead of Germans establishing it in annexed territory from the beginning
The upper part costs 600 swiss francs to do
If you have to ask why red, you've never been innawoods
So the swiss army knives are actually camouflaged?
Do a video on British mtp
Alpenflage is best camoflage
Four Fruit Pajamas
Do a video on the Wehrmacht M36 tunic
Make one on the camos of Bangladesh army
Swiss Army Jacket....
I Have that Jacket
its called the leibermuster. soldiers in swiss called it the Pizzatarn the most
They have a certain Waffen-SS look about them.