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- I don't know what the answer is. But Cade doesn't deserve this.
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I know KAT is not currently 32. Maybe it was confusing, but what I was saying was that WHEN Ant is 25 (he's 22 right now) and KAT and Rudy are declining...Ant will have had 4 years of winning and playoff experience that will have formed him greatly. I am a Wolves fan. I DO NOT THINK KAT IS 32 RIGHT NOW LMAO. Gotten a lot of comments thinking that. Also, if you'd like to follow me on twitter here's my handle: twitter.com/Matt_Throne
You said as much perfectly clearly. People are silly. Great video.
@@hubertsumlin9697 appreciate it man. There was like 5 people trying to clown me so I couldn’t help myself but make a pinned comment lmfao.
Just got to that part, super clear what you meant idk how people could have misunderstood that lmao
@@hardwood_ytSo... you're doubling down on the "when Kat and Rudy are declining" as if it's a given. NOTED.
You're holding KAT's and Rudy's declines against them before they happen.
I’m a life long wolves fan lol. Idk what the hell you’re talking about. It was to illustrate a point about how primed Ant will be to win in the NBA without them eventually, because of his younger years being spent around a winning culture.
You missed the entire point.
Pistons could break the record for consecutive losses, win a game, and then break their own record.
Facts 👍
Lolol
Except they're not gonna even win that game so it's gonna stay one record
Goat shit
Their about to do this unironically 💀
It's depressing. The pain in Cade's eyes. Kid does not deserve the incompetence of our front office. He'll leave, so will Duran and Ausar and I hope they all go on to be contributors on title contenders like KCP and Khris. These lads do not deserve the hell that is my Pistons.
Clever fake sympathy as a segue to... how might another youtuber put it in a title... CISHANSEN4162 RIPS PISTONS FRONT OFFICE!
That's not pain in Cade's eyes. It's just his regular eyes.
What I don’t even get, is I didn’t even think they looked that bad this year. Other years? Sure. So I’ve been really surprised about the whole deal.
But like ... having 3 really good players that you're worried about leaving surely indicates that the front office hasn't done a terrible job, right? Idk, I don't think very many people were expecting things to be this bad before the season ... so why should the front office have thought the team would be this bad?
@@DanielFolsom It's the 0-25 Effect. If we've not lost 25 straight, there would be no noise. And I believe once we win next game, all this go away. You're right, this is a tanking season anyway, best used for development. Next season is when hopefully we see us competing for Play-In.
When Monty told Gores he didn't want to coach this year - Gores should have taken "no" for an answer. Instead Monty doubled down and threw the money bag at Monty. So now we have a coach who still "doesn't want to coach this year" - but "is coaching" because he couldn't say no to all that money. Freaking eh!
Straight facts
@@J-Hue - exactly. Monty's treatment of Ivey brings back memories of Monty's relationship with Deandre Ayton. Red flags indeed.
He admitted it in his introductory presser... said straight faced he did it for the money
@@J-HueSo... anything less than winning a TITLE = "Red Flags".
Well, if Coach Monty has "Red Flags", what about the 27 other coaches whose teams IMPLODED BEFORE THE FINALS? What'd they get? CHECKERED FLAGS!!
CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE ONLY COACHES THAT COULD HAVE DONE BETTER THAN MONTY... ARE MIKE BUDENHOLZER (BUCKS) AND BRENDAN MALONE (NUGGETS).
NEITHER IS AVAILABLE.
@@1982kingerDECEPTION BY OMISSION.
YOU DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT THAT COACH MONTY MENTIONED TROY WEAVER AND THE PLAYERS FIRST BEFORE MENTIONING THE MONEY, and THAT HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THE MONEY BY THE MEDIA. ONCE HE'S ASKED, HE ABSOLUTELY MUST ANSWER OR FACE PUNISHMENT.
The talent that Cade has and being 2-25 is insane
yeah. He dropped 43 points in insane efficiency and they still lost by 6 points. Cade is a one man team right now. Cade and Ausar need to get the fuck outta there since their potential is crazy and its gon get ruined in detroit.
@@phoenixcampos3144bruh cade jus literally needs a new team and obviously any team would be better. I hate teams like the pistons tht tank for good players just to still ruin them
Also could improve very well some things
@@0fficial_601How would you feel if the Miami Heat were to trade for him?
@@jsn14exactly. Rebuilds are way way overrated. Re-tooling is the way to go.
Honestly, it’s a Monty Williams thing right now. He wasn’t a good coach in Phoenix and was masked by having an elite roster. Any coach would’ve won 60+ games with those Suns teams. But Monty was the ultimate reason the Suns didn’t win the championship. He had poor defensive schemes, like constantly going for single coverage against guys like Giannis, Luka and Jokic. On top of this, he didn’t utilize his best players. In his last playoff series with the team, he was electing to play a mediocre Landry Shamet and some guy named Ish Wainwright (???) over guys like Terrence Ross and TJ Warren. He had an 8-0 record with KD and Okogie starting together, and what did he do when the playoffs started? Moved Okogie to the bench.
The Pistons have tried to surround Cade with solid players. They’ve added Jaden Ivey to be his running mate, Bojan Bogdanovic is a good veteran and scoring presence to have around, they’ve got a large stock of young big men, etc. And what has Monty been doing? Electing to start Killian Hayes alongside Cade Cunningham, which makes zero sense in any universe.
Some good thoughts here. I appreciate your takes. Idk how to feel about Monty tbh but those are fair.
@@hardwood_yt I’m a die hard suns fan. I love Monty to death. With his story and the adversity he faced, he should legitimately have a movie made about him. Because the basketball fan in me hates him. But the human in me wants him elected president of the United States. It feels like he’s used his position to elevate guys into a life of getting paid NBA money who maybe wouldn’t have it or last much longer. Ish Wainwright had no business being in the NBA but Monty ensured he got paid. Landry Shamet is mediocre as a player and doesn’t belong anymore, but I’m certain Monty endured he got paid. With Killian he sees a kid who got drafted too high and is being destroyed from a reputation standpoint, and Monty is giving him chances. I hate the coaching version of him, but he’s a special type of human. It felt like he knew Phoenix’s championship window closed so he made his priority getting dudes paid, which I can respect. Because he also did try his best to get them a title. It Monty’s biggest blunders in Phoenix were that he went for single coverage against 3 of the NBA’s top 10 players, which was a mistake.
monty's credit not only comes from the suns performance with cp3, but also the all winning record in the bubble, not that I’m saying he’s no fault or anything
I'm a Phoenix fan. Coaching was always garbage from Monty. Too many isolated plays with no ball movement.
This team has so much talent it's crazy how bad they are
They don’t have any shooting
What talent? The only dudes with talent are cade, duren. And maybe ivey.
@@NewRimHoopsAusar?
@@NewRimHoopsAusar and Bojan as well. Sasser has also been good off the bench.
We don't need people telling us how many games we've lost as a true piston fan this is heart breaking enough !!😢
I know man. Go listen to Locked On Pistons most recent episode. It will channel if not relieve some of your frustration. He just goes crazy on the whole organization lol
im sick over the way they are wasting his talent. i love the way he plays. we finally got a great player and they cant keep him. there is no way he signs his rookie extension. i fucking HATE IT!!! we cant have anything good EVER!! it feels like major league 2 where the owner is trying to be extra bad so that the team moves to another city. im livid
I saw on Twitter tonight that one reporter claimed Cade has met with Gores and Weaver privately.
Idk man. I really don’t know how they screwed this up this badly.
It baffles me when people try to say Cade ain’t it either. Idk where him or the Pistons go from here. But this is quite easily the worst situation any young superstar has been thrust into for as long as I can remember.
It’s also crazy how Weaver was considered a home run hire universally. But he’s proven to have zero team building capabilities.
we cant lose him. hes all we got. tear it all down. just keep him. thats all i want. fuck gores and weaver and tellem. get rid of them all. we finally got something good!!! im so sick of it.
You wanna know the crazy part. I watched the highlights and the one thing I noticed the most is that they had the lead once. They tied it multiple times. Had multiple shots to take the lead, and it seemed insurmountable. Pretty much losing to a bench is the most embarrassing thing I’ve heard of and to be on a streak like this that rivals Lebron leaving a hopeless cavs team, and a tanking 76ers team. This isn’t planned losing, and this isn’t a lost team. This is a young team and they are already looking like they need to blow it up.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head. Those other teams were TRYING to lose
U don’t know what u talking about if actually watched the jazz game our starters was actually whooping they ass we got a 8pt or 6pt lead and then Monty decides to go with a 5 man bench unit and by the time he made a substitution our lead was gone then he did it again in the second half when we had momentum to be honest he tryna get fired on purpose
I understand Coach Monty. He is just letting the young players play and develop. Coach Silas of Rockets did this also and look where they are now.
@@bigradwolf5001 he not though he literally bench guys for mistakes
This is great editing for a channel as few videos in as you. You’re going to succeed. Love to see it!
Bad boys and now very bad boys is just golden
It was too good. Had to put it in the intro lol
Let’s make history!!! 2-80 chants🔥🔥
Its sad that with all these potential good players we are still completely ass, i guarantee most these young guys will go on to have good careers just not for us
It’s really sad to watch man.
The NBA should put the Pistons on prime time every game until the streak ends…it would be a ratings bonanza. Whether you want them to win or lose you’re still going to want to watch.
No, People don’t want to “actually” watch the Detroit Pistons people just want to see the results and the TH-cam videos created talking about how bad they are.
@@commonsense3921no I def do want to watch lol. Even as a Bucks homer.
I ain’t even an NBA fan, but watching the pistons lose is peak entertainment
maannn i grew up watching Rip Hamilton, Chauncy billups, Ben wallace give my Celtics a run for their money, I haven't seen them do anything sense which is pretty sad considering that the Pistons are such a storied franchise with a great fan base.
Yeah man. It’s a storied franchise that hasn’t been good/relevant in over a decade…
Cade cunningham, justin fields, bol bol. The team you are drafted to matters alot. Cade is a good rookie that if on a better team would skyrocket his stock. Justin fields is a talented quarterback but the system he is in is tanking his stock. And bol bols career growth was stunted when the nuggets drafted him knowing he and jokic didnt mesh and he was left riding the bench.
Bol Bol also has the fact that he’s terrible.
Cade might not be a number one option because a number one can give you a win on any given night if they want it bad enough. But he just can’t pull it off
yeah sure bro he is in his second yeaqr bro
@@lol-wm9nj exactly it’s passable as a rookie but you halfway through your second year and can’t get a win that’s terrible
@@JearrodYeah and the people he played with in his first year, who still on the roster? who???? WHO???? WHO CAN SHOOT NOW??? Its terrible? ONHIM???
as a bears fan up until week 5 this season, i get it. its rough, hang in there Pistons fans, you'll get through this
Watching these games, it’s pretty clear some of these players are doing this on purpose to get off this team.
Jogging instead of full on sprinting kinda tells you something about their motivation.
If this “breaks him” then he doesn’t belong in the league!
I think this will ultimately turn this man into a great leader!
Steph, KD, Giannis, and Embid all played on some horrible teams that saw a lot of turnover (KD’s team left an entire City) early in their careers and they are all Hall of Fame bound.
Cade will be ok.
More and more I'm amazed that they aren't 0-28
It’s a shame from bad boys to 04 one hit wonder all the way to setting an NBA record with most losing streaks what truly a shame
Yeah man. It’s so freaking bad. I feel awful for everyone involved at this point. If it gets to 30 it’s gonna get even worse
Explain how Cade continues to get better. He’s been good for over a month now. And improving on most of his weaknesses.
I the that what the Pistons need is a good veteran leader. As a Blazers fan, I have see how Malcom Brogan has helped been good directing younger players to play better as a team. Just an idea.
As a Sixer fan I feel bad for the Pistons, hope they can turn around this ugly situation. At least they have a great player in Cunningham, that's a good starting point for a true rebuilt. Since I was a kid I see the Pistons as a team where having tough guys in it is more important than having superstars, the players around Cade are looking soft to me. Good luck
We had the bad boys now we got the very bad boys 😂😂
I know hindsight’s 20/20 but just a reminder the pistons took Killian Hayes over Haliburton and Maxey in…2020
No my man you are right. Was an awful pick at the time too
They are tanking for Bronny James....
Where he goes... His dad would also go.....
bronny is not lottery pick im sorry, 1st rounder? i think he could be if teams dont pass up on him like they did with tjd, mid 1st to late first if he improves this year, top 5 if he has a growth spurt and averages 20 10 10 2 2
Pistons will definitely fumble the bag in the draft for sure.
Lol
If that were the plan, that’s the worst plan in the history of the league (it’s not) lol.
Bro, we were losing when bogdan was out, now he's back, we're still losing.
What's a stock??
Steals and blocks combined
I tuned in to the Nets vs Pistons and was like "if they're going to avoid it, this might be the team to do it versus" and then saw Cade hit 30 and them still be down as the clock was winding down.
Like what the actual fuck, bro is playing his heart out and the Pistons look like a college team. A bad one.
I think current player in piston team is gonna be more tough and resilent mind due to losing and pressure from the media😂😂😂
I think it could break some of them man.
Mark my word Cade is leaving after his rookie contract
Probably. Why wouldn’t you?
Here I am Dec 27th and the Detroit Pistons just lost their 27th game, making it the longest losing streak in NBA history.
😂😂😂😂 this is what yall get for the malice in the palace. Every dog has their day. - Sincerely The Biggest Pacer fan
We as fans, of course, would prefer the players not think about it during the game.
I don't know if i buy your story about Town's though. Lol
“He is the superstar of the number one seed in the Western Conference, tied for the best record in the NBA at just 22 years old.
You don't think that affects him at 25 when Rudy is now a shell of his former self and Kat is 32 and beginning his decline as well? It 100% does.
He has learned how to win at a young age and been able to grow and get playoff experience that will greatly shape the future of his career”
Why would I say Ant is 22 right now, then talk about him one day being 25 and then talk about Rudy declining and KAT being 32?
We are so bad 😢
Great video
I think one of the problems is where they have Isaiah Stewart. He is big but should be at the small forward instead of power forward.
Detroit doesnt have a center. It looked like Isaiah Stewart was on the upswing, but he is worse than last year
You know your team is bad when they make Kelly Olynik look like an all-star
Exactly noone will want to lose to the pistons. Teams will be coming for them.
Cant really compare our rebuild to anyone else’s… rockets had a starting block of James harden/CP3 trades, magic started with vuc/Aaron gordon/Fournier trades… OKC started with PG/Harden/Russ… we started with the corpse of Blake griffin/Andre Drummond/ rookie Bruce brown
He's one of the reasons they are not a good team. He might be a decent option 2 on a team, but no way he's a franchise leading star.
"the very bad boys" IS INSANEEE 💀💀💀
He could be a starter on a good team but a star? No.
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At what point will someone hold Monty Williams accountable for signing a coaching contract in bad faith?
The spurs should get him and bring his confidence back plus Wemby they will trade many picks and a player or two
No, pistons need to get better. Losing Cade wont help
wirst part is the upcoming draft just isnt as good as the past few years lmao and we STILL are probably not gonna win the lottery cuz the odds are so flat
Yeah dude. Idk what they’re supposed to do. Weaver has ruined this franchise.
If and when he gets fired, I may have to make a video on his 4 years in Detroit and how he ruined the pistons
When did KAT turn 32? 🤔
The way to get the next win is to mandate tatooing on all Pistons players their losing record of 0-26. Seeing that everytime will remind them to play hard tomorrow.
Need to start Thompson, and Ivey. Stewart and Hayes are iffy. Also, play wiseman more
They should develop Kevin Knox; he looked great in Summer League. What happened?
This team is bad but they aren’t the worst. The 7-59 Bobcats had way less talent. The Process Sixers were less talented too. I’m not sure what the issue is with the Pistons. A mix of dysfunction, young players being lost and everything snowballing.
that AI trade for the pistons is still cursing this pistons teams even til this day
Tim Legler knows firsthand about playing on a terrible team. He played on the Dallas teams in the early 1990s that couldn't beat anybody (except the T-wolves in 1994 who they beat 5 times of 13 wins that year).
That’s a great find. I completely forgot about that.
Legler is one of my favorites in the industry
Cunningham said all the right things in one of those press conferences. He seems to have a humble head on his shoulders, which will do him favours in the future.
The pistons should draft Bronny and Lebron James lol
Man to go from The Bad Boy Pistons to Boy The Pistons Bad is just sad to watch
O pior é que a anemia profunda dos Pistons está contaminando os Redwings que tbm estão virando saco de pancadas na NHL,por favor desinfectar a litleceaser arena urgente.
They could beat the bobcats season loss record
I disagree Cade's contract will expire soon then he will go elsewhere or resign for a max extension, either why he is a winner
Time will tell
The Pistons just need to reflex the dunks, and the dunks need to reflex their bodies
Troy Weaver is indeed this bad of a GM. He's shown it on a consistent basis he's incompetent. Monty has also shown time over time he's not that good of coach, when you have a mediocre coach who doesn't want to coach, doing it basically just because of money this is what happens, plain and simple. I get that he's got 3 of the worst players in the league in Wiseman, Bagley and Stewart, but he's the one that insists on starting Stewart on a consistent basis, regardless of the fact that everyone can see it's an absolute disaster.
This ain’t the Bad Boys Pistons, these them SAD boy pistons
Monty Williams is slowly becoming the 2nd coming of Doc Rivers. Started off great with the first team, turned them around, make some key acquiring and went to the Finals. Then it went downhill. The following teams could never quite get it done. They have some good young players in Detroit. They shouldn’t be this bad. I remember some fools talking about Cade becoming the best PG in Pistons history. Absolute nonsense and disrespectful to Zeke and even Chauncey at 2. Bro got a LONG way to go and as a PG on a historically losing team, it doesn’t look good.
That’s crazy
Great video! But KAT isnt 32... 9:08
i know. i didnt say that. Re-listen to what I was saying. Ant is 22 right now. WHEN he is 25, and Kat is then 32 and rudy is a shell of his former self, these 4 years of winning and experience in the playoffs will have shaped him greatly. I was speaking in the future.
0:33 should have said, "we have the bad boys, now we have the terrible boys".
Trade Cade to my Knicks?
He’s untouchable. All the pistons have left and nobody gonna be the guy to trade him
Pistons are tanking while actually trying to win. I think the owner wants to win while the GM wants to tank and the Coach wants to develop.
We have a bigger fan base than the suns
As a Suns fan, we’ll be happy to trade for Cade.
Cade should request a trade immediately
Look at the effort u gotta want it
How is it the owners fault?
He forced the Monty Williams hire, Troy Weaver built the team for a coach that coaches young players like Kevin Ollie and Gores over rode that decision to give A Coach that didn’t want to coach the biggest contract in history just for him to bench and ruin the confidence of this young core.. The starting Line up should be Cade, Ivey, Ausar, Bojan, and Duren with Killian and Stewart coming off the bench, and Sasser getting more minutes and livers and Burks getting less minutes
It is so weird. They have players with real skills. I think coaching is ass and probably management too
As a celtics fan in afraid they're not gonna take them serious and give them a win
Looks like the pistons are 19th in attendance not 15th
“Slowly ruining Cade Cunningham”….maybe Cade isn’t the guy! You draft a player high because you’re typically not a good team and you’re banking on that guy/gal to play a major role in reversing your fortunes…..maybe he’s just not that guy.
Cade doesn’t play full speed he plays in fourth gear they would do good to trade him
?>>>>??????
Luka doesn’t either. It’s his style. He doesn’t need to. He’s a facilitator and someone who dictates the offense/game with his handle and playmaking.
@@hardwood_yt exactly!!!! Yet sadly Luka can shoot threes deep and iso on three poin tlines and making them while Cade cannot consistently
Cade isn’t being ruined he just simply isn’t a game winner type player
Okay Alex I ll take worst teams in NBA History for 500. Yeah its rough for the fans. I remember when the Toronto Raptors first started out, but you knew in a few years they would get much better. By 2000 Vince Carter played on a powerhouse team, If his ego had not interfered with his business sense, they could have been a championship team much earlier than they had. Detroit would need a major house cleaning. New coach, new staff, with a new winning attitude. It will take years but it can be done. Or?? move the team to Seattle? or Las Vegas? and forget Detroit as the Clippers did with Buffalo
Definitely the wrong room.
Somebody get Cade out of there, asap!
As soon as cade can leave he will
I've never seen a professional athlete look so defeated in my life in any sport
He did all he could again last night in their loss to the Celtics 😭😭
Prolific prep would be 3-25 at least by now
Lmaoo
Wait a minute KAT is 32? 😭
No, my point was WHEN Ant is 25, KAT will be about 31-32, gobert will be pretty much washed. But he will have learned how to win and grown a ton in the process of playoff experience.
Ant is 22 right now. KAT is 28 I believe.
@@hardwood_yt had me rethinking how old I really was 😂
Honestly if I’m Cade, I don’t wanna be traded yet, but I’ll fake an injury or sumn like that. Take a mental break.
Fq cade about to cry, save my boi outta detroit
I consider Dwayne Casey a good coach and this vindicates him
Me too
Rudy Gobert and KAT a shell over their former selves? 😂😂😂
I don’t think you understood what I was saying lol.
I’m saying in 3-4 years...when ant is 25-26, Gobert 34 (and on the major decline) and KAT is beginning his decline, Ant will have learned how to win. In his first 5-5 seasons. So it was extremely beneficial for him to be surrounded with a winning culture.
I’m not talking about now lol. Gobert and KAT are having some of their best seasons ever
@@hardwood_yt Ok I understand now.
Still not sold on Cade.
Im not saying he is the promised one, but I think the superstar potential is there and my fear is they are going to ruin him with this awful situation they've put him in.
Bruh should be able to get his team atleast one W. Franchise player an cannot will his team to even 1 W. Extremely talented but not sure he can actually lead a team. Atleast thus far it dont look that way. An again im jus talkin bout one W.
He had 43 points on 66% shooting against the hawks…last night he had 28, 10, 7. This team is straight up ASS
I feel bad for Cade
he's literally bad. exploding for 43 points , last time with the Hawks, but cannot handle it in the end.
Ruining Ivey too. Pistons are so poverty it’s crazy. And the hiring of Monty was idiocy like how tf yall making millions to be this stupid? Everybody gotta be fired over there
How the ruining him ?? That’s some lebron james mentality right there
right