Why You're Wrong About the Ozark Trail Wall Tent from Walmart
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- Why You're Wrong About the Ozark Trail Wall Tent from Walmart...
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In this video I will go over everyone's big issue with this tent...the removable floor...and why it isn't as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be. Thanks for watching!
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(Read to the end) I've had one for years, we would use it once a year in the Adirondack Mountains, never had any problems. This year, I decided to take it on a second hunting trip and it down poured rain. The floor had puddles all over. After watching this review, I realized that the problem was with me. I put the floor in wrong and the water just ran in the door opening, because I didn't have the corners setup right. Thank you for this video!
You're welcome! Where did you camp up north? We are actually from Syracuse and I grew up camping in the Adirondacks every summer. I have been all over but we did several years in a row on Long Lake.
I love mine. Went winter fishing in Ocean Shores Washington. It was windy AF and this beauty stood her ground.
I went up to camp for Memorial Day weekend and survived quite the storm in this, that trip I knew we were going to have serious rain so I put an extra rain fly tarp over it. I do suggest spraying it with a coat of waterproofer and anti mildew anti fungal. And I suggest if you are going to be in real storm conditions to put a tarp rain fly over it. But I have been through rain and snow and ice without the rain fly and it held up fine with no leaks. I just got my wood stove this week so my next uplaod will be when we go up for New Year's weekend and I am so excited to have the stove to stay warm. Enjoy and stay safe! Thanks for watching!
@@bfroutdoors good call on the waterproofer!
I had my Tent out in the Woods for 4 months.. not one mouse, snake, no ants, Just a couple spiders. I made sure my Sod cloth was well secure with a couple brinks on each side. GREAT Tent
That is honestly really impressive! I put mine up and take it down each time I go up to camp...but once I start building the cabin I will have to go up two or three weekends in a row and I am going to just leave it up.
a 4000.00 canvas tent doesnt even come with a floor !!!!........ the Ozark trail wall tent give you the biggest bang for the buck and is only as good as someone who takes care of a tents needs instead of "Expecting" the tent to care for itself !!!!......set it up Right..... Keep the roof clear of snow or rain pockets and keep the fabric treated with a good repellent ......you can get your money and then some out of it !!!!..... Ive had mine for 5 yrs.....used it 2 weeks at a time in the snow during hunting season........ it is set up for 2 months during the summer each year at the lake....still works like new..... No Problems !!! People will always complain but they also wont put the work in either !!
YUP! Agree! I was shopping for wall tents and noticed some of them...thousand dollars for the poles...another thousand for canvas...and another five hundred or so for the floor! Wow...five years with this tent that is pretty impressive! Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!
As your next project you should give your tent a wooden front and a normal door! I think you would appreciate it a lot I saw some people do it with a bell tent and it looks great
If it were a permanent tent setup I totally would, but we break it down each time we leave. And once we build the cabin we won't be using the tent anymore.
My son and I are headed to the Wyoming back country in just a couple weeks for an elk hunt and we put this up in the yard last night to ensure everything was as it’s supposed to be. So far looks to be a solid purchase.
Good to hear! It has worked really well for me and my use. Best of luck on your hunt!
I’ve love my “happy place” tent. I put it up in August in my backyard so I could rent an additional room in my house. I moved it to a friend’s back yard in February and it’s still great. I put the floor on plastic pallets which allows for airflow underneath and protection from the rain. Great value for $400!❤
I threw a heavy tarp over it to make snow removal easy and protect from hail. When I replace this I may get the bigger 12x20’ next time.
That is great! A tarp over the top helps a ton, not just with rain and snow and hail but with protection from the sun. Glad you like it, we love ours!
my 2nd yr with this tent. I've had no problems, but I did add more velcro, and a wood frame on a wood platform
If I were going to leave mine up longer than a week that is exactly what I would do. I think once I start building the cabin I need go up 3 or 4 weekends in a row and I will probably leave it up, add more velcro, really seal down that sod cloth, and reinforce the frame. Glad it has worked well for you!
How did you add your Velcro? Been trying to decide what works permanently enough.
I have the same tent used it 2 colder deer seasons in south east missouri with a woodstove and I can say it is worth the price I paid for a great camp
I got it at $400 and I think it was well worth it. Anyone getting it on sale for $250 right now is getting a deal. Trying to order a stove for it next week so I can get back up to camp and get some work done and make some more videos.
1. Camping takes place in the woods. 2. You could treat the skirt with sawyer permethrin. My Gazelle T3 has a removable floor, never had an issue.
Right! My tent has never been on any ground, only been on the deck. Was up at camp for new years and it snowed for two days and rained two days, didn’t have any issues. Thanks for watching brother!
This and ur last review did it for me. I’m going to get one of these. I want a wall tent because of the amount of room it gives and you’ve talked about the material and after reading the comment section of others who’ve owned these I am confident in the material.
I am guessing the material is probably a little lighter than canvas which would be great for transporting it. I’ll probably order it in a months time. I am really excited. It gives me something to look forward to.
Thanks for watching! It has worked really well for me. The best way I can describe the material is if you have a pair of 5.11 or columbia pants, it's like material. The whole package is still 90 pounds, but the bag has wheels so you can drag it and it has handles on both sides so two people can carry it. good luck!
I had no idea that flap was called "sod cloth" but it makes complete sense. Since my tent was setup on a floor built from pallets and plywood it was easy to just pin down that flap (sod cloth) with 2X4s and screw them to the deck. We had it set up at our off grid land for 9 months and never had any serious issues with critters and the floor never got wet except for what we tracked in. Now, my biggest complaint is the lack of reinforcement at the roof corners where they come over the pipe frame. I had to make my own reinforcements.
I had no idea when I bought it! Saw it on another video from a different tent and then I saw it again on someone's blog. There are a few different ways you can put it down, if your deck is built the exact size of the tent then you put it down the side of the deck, or you can do it the way you and I did it, or as someone below said you can put it inside and then put the floor over the top which is how I am going to try it next time I go up. I've been ok with the tent corners over the poles but as many in here have said it's the poles themselves that are the weak point, two of my corner brackets are a little bent and the corner pole kind of angles in and it is really annoying trying to put things like my cot or a storage containers into the corner. But, overall for $400 (on sale for $250 right now) this tent is still a deal.
I bought the 10 x 20. We love it.
Wish I had room for the 20! I don't really need it though. And once we build the cabin we won't need it anymore. Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
@@bfroutdoors I’m actually going to get the 10 x 12 for trips when it’s just 2 or 3 of us.
I don't get the concern either removeable floors are the norm with most hot tents...just imagine how you would set up the tent frame with a sewn in floor? My 4 man was the same way with people complaining about the removeable floor. I removed mine and never used it at all. As for the seams leaking I have a very expensive 2 man sil-nylon tent that I had to seam seal myself (manufacturer provided sealer with tent), its a pretty easy thing to do and a regular maintenance thing for some. I remember as a kid we camped over Thanksgiving every Elk season and had friends with a canvas tent. Usually about 2-3 feet of snow, they would set up the tent and spread out a few straw bales over the snow for a floor. It was a blast, kept pretty warm.
I really don't get it...I haven't had any issues. Comment below said the correct way is to tuck the sod cloth piece INSIDE the tent and then put the floor over the top of it...makes sense and should stop the cold air draft...I'm going to try that method next trip. I've seen many canvas wall tents with no floor at all. I grew up going to a camp that had old army canvas wall tents and they were setup on a deck floor like mine. I do need to seam seal this tent...I got some rain on the last trip and the seams were holding water just fine but I had just couple little ares with some drops where the water pooled by the edge of the ceiling as I didn't have the side ropes pulled down tight enough. I'll be happy when I get my wood stove though! Happy camping!
A coworker of mine has this tent and loves it.
For the price it is a great tent.
Use what works. Great job on the homestead.
Agree! Thanks!
I love Ozark trail gear
I have had very good luck with every piece of ozark trail gear I have, from this tent to a couple sleeping bags to rechargeable lanterns to cast iron pans.
great points on it. i am looking at building a platform soon and then getting one of these for winter
The platform is the way to go, flat, sturdy, no sticks or roots poking up through the floor, and you are off the ground so less chance of water getting in. Best of luck boss!
Great info. Just bought one from Walmart for $249
They dropped the price even more! It was $299 on Monday. Damn bro you got a deal!!!
@@bfroutdoors I know. Thanks to you now I know how to set it up also. I need a compatible wood stove now.
i love my wall tent. i've had mine for a year now and wouldn't buy any other. I just got me a wood stove to put in mine so i can do some winter camping now.
I have been using my little buddy propane heater but I really want a wood stove for this winter. My issue is I don't want to buy a cheap flimsy wood stove just for the tent as the tent is just temporary while we build the cabin, and once the cabin is built we will transfer the wood stove to the cabin. But I don't want to buy a really large heavy wood stove that will be tough to move when setting up the tent. So I am kind of stuck right now. I could buy a small stove and then sell it once we build the cabin and buy a bigger one I guess.
Hi, thanks for your video. The reason it has a removable floor is because it's a "hot tent". You can't put a wood burning stove on a poly floor. You can buy a fireproof mat and do it, but typically, if your using a wood burning stove for heat inside the tent, it's cold and there are no creepy crawlies. In that situation, you really don't need a floor at all. All one would do is track in dirt and mud which would then get trapped in the bathtub floor. No hot tents have floors from the manufacturer, they are add on accessories.
Correct! This one the section of floor under the stove is removable it zips in and out. On my first review video dozens of people said the tent was worthless because it has a removable floor, just uneducated complaints that are not based off experience with hot tent or wall tent they are just use to normal popup tents.
@@bfroutdoors yes sir. I appreciate you doing your best to educate folks. Thank you for your time.
Ive got this tent and used it the last 3 years hunting and i use a camp chef cs14 wood stove in it and my 10x20 version and it will run you out,but awesome tent i will buy another just to ha ve it
Agree 100%!
I wonder if these people griping know that most canvas wall tents don’t have a floor at all 😂 I had this for a few years and loved it, finally upgraded to a kodiak, but this is a fine tent.
Right! Haha! I think after we build the cabin, I am going to build another deck a hundred feet or so up the road and put a kodiak canvas tent on it and build that out so it stays up all year as a rental. Those are damn nice tents, big upgrade, not cheap but worth it for sure.
Someone could also get double stick heavy duty Velcro and ad it to the rest of the walls so the floor is completely sealed off for pretty inexpensive.
That is exactly what I am going to do! Been on my list for the last couple trips up to camp and just have not gotten to it yet. It really needs it along the back wall, the wide walls have three Velcro spots and the back wall only has one. The other trick is to tuck that sod cloth UNDER the floor which is what I do now.
I don’t remember if you mentioned it but how was condensation on the inside without a stove. Do you think a wood stove would help with that.
@@luigibagins I mentioned it briefly in one of the other tent review videos, it's not bad, if you are not running a propane heater or a propane cooking stove there is almost none. During the warmer times once the sun comes out it dries right up anyway. But now that I have had it for two years, and last month I just got a wood stove and man that thing solves all those issues. I was starting to get a little mildew on the tent from having to pack it up when it was damp, nothing you can do about it really you gotta pack up and go home and the weather isn't always perfect, I need to treat it with a water sealer and ant-mildew and we will be golden. But the wood stove on the last trip man it dries everything up it's so nice. This tent with a wood stove is so nice.
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I still haven’t tried my $30 tent from academy yet 🤷♂️
Come on let's go!
Almost all the wall tents that I've ever used have a floor that's not attached or you just throw some tarps down. Just bought one of these because I keep hearing about how well they are for the price so I found it for just under $300.
If you got one of these for $300 you got a DEAL!!! When I picked it up it was $400 and within six months they were at $500. Just checked the price and they are indeed for sale for $299! Damn...good catch! Yeah enjoy it, for $300 to $500 you can't beat it.
It's awsum .I got mine for 250 .and it's amazing
$250 is a steal!
What about 3 normal size cots? Do you think it would fit 3 grown men with cots? Or would you think the 20x10 would be better?
So you can fit three cots in it...but not really much else...you could not fit three cots plus a wood stove or even a table for food prep. When we do two cots for the wife and I or one of my friends, plus the wood stove, there is just enough room for my two little food prep tables. If you want to keep everything in the tent with three cots you will need the 20x10. Best of luck!
Brother I camp in a gazelle with no floor. I figure if something wandering in I might be in the mood for a snack.
HA!
Great video man. I hope the waterproofing is good to withstand the tears of YT commenters.
Haaaaaaaaa! Well the good part is, once we build the cabin we will no longer need this tent, and then phase two is building another deck further up the ridge and putting a high quality white duck canvas tent on that deck to rent out for "glamping".
What about those pegs "sewn" into the canvas that go into the frame when they break off how do ya fix that?
I have not had break off of the tent walls...yet. I had one rip off the floor though, has not been an issue so far and it is the only thing that has ripped/broken on this thing in two years of use, come to think of it I could probably glue it back on, maybe I will try to fix it.
Hey, I got a question so I’m thinking of buying a 20 x 10 version and I was wondering how big of a wooden stove I need to heat it up
Jesse, I actually found a stove that is PERFECT for this exact tent, it is made by a company called Northwoods Fabrication, I'll leave their website link. The Woodsmen model is perfect for this 10x12 tent, so I would say you want the XL or the XXL. I was looking for a stove we could use in the tent that was nice enough that when we build the cabin we can transfer it to the cabin and it will work good and look nice, and this one is it! I'll be picking one up this fall for the winter season...hoping I can have the cabin roughed in with the roof and windows in by the end of the year. Here is the link (I do NOT make money off this...just legit a solid product and good people) www.northwoodsfab.com/
@@bfroutdoors thank you so much
Are the windows "open" along the top edge? It looks like they are zippered along the sides but nothing along the top edge and I was worried about drafts during winter camping if they are not sealed all sides.
The windows are open on the bottom edge, but the zippers keep them tight, no drafts.
I’m glad you like it. For me after 3 months daily use it started to grow mold. It went to hell from there. It’s poorly made and after living in it I see it’s a shart tent. Maybe with wood stove you can prevent mold but otherwise it’s garbage. But I like removable floor🤙🏼
Damn that sucks man sorry to hear. I think if you are in a wet climate and have ti up all the time it needs to be treated. If you look up "my 12 acres" here on youtube, he has an amazing real canvas wall tent and he had a mold issue on the fly cover and around his stove jack...so it happens to a lot of people regardless of the brand tent...and he had to treat his tent with an anti mold solution. I haven't treated mine yet but I am going to next time I go up to camp so this doesn't happen to me. Best of luck man!
@@bfroutdoors You’ve got a cool set up and I hope the cold will help to lessen any mold. Here’s the real issue though - some poly cotton fabrics sandwiched between silicone layers and the mold develops inside the silicone coating. I think wood stove is only way to have less mold but it’s nearly impossible to clean mold off for good. You can use like miracle mist which is heavy in bleach but in 2 months same problem is back. Return material if notice and get something made of tarp material maybe… What attracted me was the price too but the mold issue meant the thing lasted all of 3 months. Anyways please let us know how things go for you. Enjoy the experience of great outdoors and be blessed🤙🏼
Old post , but just in case. Use "wet it and forget it" or a other brand . It's the same chemical in pool algae cleaner. It won't hurt the material and unlike bleach it will stay and keep mold from growing.
Do you use the floor in the winter? Is it safe with the propane? Do I need to get something fireproof for the floor or put it on a table? Have you used a stove?
I always use the floor, winter and summer. I have not picked up a wood stove yet so I am just using my little buddy propane heater and I don't even put it in the area that is meant for the stove (there is an area below the hole for the stove pipe, on the floor, it unzips and that is where the stove goes). I have put the propane heater in different locations and not had any issues with the floor. Normally just keep the heater on very low, if you get one of those thermo-electric fans it will spread the heat very well, there are a bunch of videos on youtube that show how to cut the base of those fans to wedge right on top of the little buddy heater. Check the next comment up, these tents are on sale for $299 right now! Huge deal!
WEIGHT ?? 95.? pounds complete , BUT as I entend NOT to use the metal pole setup sonetimes , Il'l use 2 poles front amd rear OR shear poles cut on site OR cable between 2 trees when packing in spike camps .As it is a "canvas like " man made material with a definite RipStop pattern and NOT cotton canvas What do Youall think the actual tent covering material weighs ?
Hmmmmm...well if we just divide by 1/3...1/3 for the poles...1/3 for the bottom and 1/3 for the canvas...about 30 to 35 pounds would be my guess. The carrying bag doesn't weigh more than two pounds itself.
Great video, Very informative! I like your setup.
Thanks boss! Next couple trips I'm building an out house and a rainwater collection on the top of the ridge, then we start building the first cabin right next to this deck. Lot of work but it's fun and rewarding!
lol a detachable floor is a GOOD thing. My Eastern Mountain wall tent has NO FLOOR whatsoever and it doesn't need one.
To be honest it really doesn't need one if you are setting up on a deck or platform like mine. Most classic wall tents are designed to be setup on a platform. Yeah if you are one wet or soggy ground or on snow I would want a floor, but on the deck I actually don't need it, but once my deck board dry out a bit and contract then the floor will be drafty so just for warmth and wind blocking having the floor is good. But I have seen the expensive wall tents sold without it or as an addon option.
@@bfroutdoors true
Sir , I mean you no disrespect but you are totally wrong about the sod cloth ...Sod cloths are not intended to remain around the outside ...but instead they should be tucked INSIDE the tent...the floor is then laid overtop of the sod cloth making an effective waterproof , creature proof seal ...think about how you lowered or raised the front flap and soon you will get the picture...Call any reputable tent manufacturer...they will back me up on this c 1
I grew up using old military canvas tents and I have seen many canvas tents all setup on platforms and from what I was taught the platform the tent is built on is suppose to be the same size as the tent and the sod cloth is suppose to be tacked down to the side of the platform. I did not know that setting up on the ground you would tuck it under and then lay the floor over the top of it…that would completely stop any cold air draft in cold weather. Learn something new every day! Thanks!
Can anyone point me in the right direction for a Woodstove for this tent!? Also, this is on Sale at Walmart right now for 250!
Just bought one at $249 + taxes
$250 is a steal! They dropped the price again. It was $299 on Monday 11/28 this week. As for stoves, I have been eyeing this one, price is good and its not super cheap metal but it's not crazy heavy like the bigger cast iron stoves. amzn.to/3ENPGEK
@@bfroutdoors will this stove be able to heat up this tent?
I’m getting a Camp Chef Alpine Cylinder Stove for my 10x20 Ozark. 285 plus tax
Bum interested in that tent only if it can stand up to high winds 29, 49, 60, PLUS winds, do you know if it will stand or fall
I have seen 20mph wind in it and it was fine. It has pretty heavy duty stake hooks on the corners. The tie downs a solid. I think if you put something with weight down on the sod cloth area on the sides you will be fine at 20-40mph...I wouldn't guarantee anything besides hardcore mountaineering tents that are known to withstand over 50mph.
Is this tent Canvas or a mix?
The best way I can explain it is if you have a pair of columbia or 5.11 or under armor tactical or hiking pants, it's like that ripstop nylon material.
Most wall tents don’t have sewn in floors 🤷♂️ it’s actually a safety hazard if it is sewn in. U ever have a bear or fire u can get out under the side canvas
Yeah I have never seen a wall tent with a sewn in floor. I guess that would be a good reason why!
How about the pole strength? I heard poles could get bent. How sturdy are they?
I think for normal use...a few times a year...in a climate that does not get massive snowfall...they are fine. If you want to leave this up for weeks at a time...and/or you are taking it to someplace that will get inches of snow overnight...then I would either reinforce the poles or replace them with electrical conduit. We might get a couple inches of snow once a year...and I am only in the tent for a few days at a time...so for me this tent has worked great and held up very well.
@@bfroutdoors thanks for the info!
@@bfroutdoors Yea, I had an Ice storm last year and 1 pole bent.
It's funny how problems really ain't problems if yer just a bit smart bout it......
Truth! I do need to add some velcro to the inside of the floor and walls but yeah it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be.
on sale right now for $250 12/20/2022
Yup! For that price it is a steal. Great tent for $250!
I tried like hell tu bye one but it is impossible in canada.
So i go to platsburg and malone the tell me they cant even order one in there store so it's maybe the best in the world but they are not interested to sell me one.
That sucks to hear! There are quite a few people selling them on ebay, it looks like all of them only ship to the US but I would message a few of them and ask if they will ship one to Canada. Good luck!
@@bfroutdoors finaly if fond à way to get one 10x20.
Bugs: I would use this tent without a floor and with tent cots. Easier to guarantee no bugs with those tiny 1-person tents that go on top of a sleeping cot.
I know exactly what you're talking about. In large army tents that hold 12+ guys that is what they do, use the personal screens. My buddy just got back from a deployment in a place that is basically a swamp and has massive bugs all summer and he used one. If I were really concerned about bugs I would get one. And I always sleep on a cot. Just seal that bottom cloth to the ground with something with some weight and you're good.
Get this tent at wallyworld right now for $249.
That price is a steal!
thy hate anyone having fun cheaoply
Haaaaa! So true! God forbid I don't put out a video with a $3,000 canvas tent!
If you’re scared of a squirrel …..Why are you in the woods?. Seems like a legit tent to me lol
Ha! For real! 😆