What does not make any sense about this show is that instead of Bail hiring a bounty hunter (let's say Boba Fett) to get Leia back, they browbeat, perhaps, one of the most wanted men in the universe, Obi Wan, to get her back even though he is, obviously, a shell of his former self. Not only does this risk getting Obi Wan killed, it also seriously risks Bail's entire family ans well as Luke and the rest of the extended Skywalker family. I know this has to happen to get the plot moving, but what a stupid decision.
That’s what happens when you only care about trying to do gratuitous fan service and the story is just an afterthought. You forget that other characters in the universe exist, an entire galaxy’s worth actually.
Nevermind a bounty hunter. Bail could have simply gone before the Senate and said that his daughter was missing. The Empire's military and intelligence services would be honour bound and very pleased to get to recover his child. The worst possible thing to do, would be to get Obi wan to go after her and prove the link. Leia would have been back home within a week if he'd never left Tatooine.
It DOESN'T have to happen to get the plot moving. It has to happen to get THIS retarded and worthless plot going. A PROPERLY written show would have LUKE be put in danger and therefore Obi Wan would be the actual person in charge of keeping him safe. But Disney needs to shove as many women into EVERY project as they possibly can, so we get this slop.
The guy who wrote, or did the teleplay for all 6 episodes is also responsible for such gems as The Flash, Transformers Rise of the Beasts, King Arthur Legend of the Sword and our favorite... Army of the Dead! This guy is a blight on Hollywood.
Yet another Star Wars show billed as being about a popular character only to make him look like a fool and instead actually be about some new lady. And weirdly competent child Leia
"I am not your failure, Obi Wan." The next line SHOULD have been "I am, your only success." Instead, Anakin contradicts himself! The first time they fight he says "I am what you made me." Then now he says "You didn't kill Anakin, I did." Anakin's "death" is what made Darth Vader, and now Anakin is just taking all the blame and guilt off Obi Wan by insisting it was purely who he was, not anything Obi Wan did or didn't do.
Vader's lines are like something you'd program into an action figure toy. It's just generic crap that he could say to Obi-wan anywhere at anytime. These are literally Vader's lines from the show: "Did you truly think you could defeat me?" "You have failed." “You cannot run, Obi-Wan.” ... “I am what you made me.” ... “The years have made you weak. ... “Now you will suffer, Obi-Wan. ... “Bring him to me.” "Then you will die!" It's been years since they saw each other. They should have a LOT more (and better) things to talk about.
When Obi-Wan is climbing into the hatch to avoid the troopers in the hall, if you pause the show at the 15 minute, 33 second time mark, you can clearly see Obi-Wan's entire leg still hanging out of the hatch, and the Stormtroopers are in the frame. There is no way they could have missed him, even wearing an early 80's plastic helmet costume with dark-tinted eyeholes so they look black from the outside (like my mother owned and used to wear to scare us when we were little). Assuming that actual military gear would have better visibility is only sensible (Luke couldn't see, because the gear was too big for him, so the helmet did not sit properly on his head, and he was not trained on the equipment). It's not even that the troopers could not see Obi-Wan because they were out of frame, it's that the direction was that bad.
brother this show is so godawful you don't even need to pause frames to find problems with it lol props for going above any beyond the call of duty I suppose
Especially when they're classed as the elite units. They're the best, handpicked to take down enemies that the regular army can't. Every instance in the OG of stormtroopers appearing is necessary. Vader getting Leias ship, the guarding of the Death Stars and the shiekd generator, and the incident on Bespin. But no Didney made them shit. They even made the clines shit at the start. You onow, the child soldiers bred for war, who were considered to be better than even stormtroopers.
Leia is so mobile it's a shame she forgot to use her speed in episode 4 no way the empire would have been able to capture her! The little fiend can vanish in a blur
ya know... I never quite noticed it before but at that part where the inquisitor stops her to talk about kenobi, literally have a character explaining her motivations to her... that absolutely bugs me
Vader's base being on Mustafa, has been established in what Disney wrongfully made uncanon. Disney did not come up with this, they don't come up with anything remotely interesting. And Vader's base is on the planet he melted because he's a Sith, they are stronger the more angry and distressed they are. basically the planet pisses him off, so he lives on it to stay pissed off.
2:06:59 Yeah most of the sabers have a dial that changes the amount of damage you can do. It does include a training mode where you get a slight burn and bruise, to even basically instant severing lasers
1:27:55 What's really funny is that this show was the perfect opportunity to see how much Vader has changed (moveset, fighting style, and attitude) compared to how Obi-Wan is more stuck in the past and emotionally compromised than Vader. The first fight between them could show how Obi-Wan won't be able to beat him twice with the same fighting style. Vader would obviously have practiced and built his new fighting style around his previous defeat. And that's just the choreography. The conversation they could've had would make the fight even better. It's so easy to make a brilliant callback and show character development with the fight alone. But no, we get "I am what you made me!"
48:35 "Oh therwa a picture of me because theres been a bounty placed on my head. See, being a Jedi and former Republic Agent, I am an enemy of the Imperials. So is your father. So are you technically. But since im coming to save you, the imperials are trying to stop that". If Leia was actually intelligent, why didnt she figure this shxt out?!
This show is so bad. If it wasnt for the budget no one would be fooled into taking it seriously. Take away the high quality cameras and people would see this for the fan fiction that it is. This kind of acting and writing makes me think the actor and writer strike deserve to not get what they want. Let them starve.
To comment on your point about the strike, what pains me is there surely are some writers who are competent and willing to write good stories that people would enjoy. But writers with enough connections and who continue to write this to appease their own egos or that of those above them, will be paid a lot of money to continue their “work.” For every one film or show of bad writers, I firmly believe that there is someone out there who could have helped or made it better.
@@viddykhaos2896 WRITE here, pal. Who’s got two thumbs and could write circles around these satanic pedophiles and who’s also going to undermine this sincere and lovely reply with this joke? This guuuuuuy.
@@viddykhaos2896 It's sadly the way of things. There are many amazing writers in say the book world but you'll never hear anything about them or even see advertising for their books because only writers with literacy agents get to go with the big publishers. The only other way to get noticed is to enter writing competitions or in Hollywood world that would be self published films which would require money. I imagine there is a similar bunch of middle men in Hollywood that you can only hire if you're rich to start with. Didn't use to be this way but film, books and so on are too commercialised and the creative talent is all hindered by middle men and lack of advertising.
Light saber blades look thick and wide, but that's just the glow. When you stab something with them the hole it makes is only like 1/1000 the diameter of a needle. That's why everyone but qui gon keeps surviving stab wounds
What makes me sad about this show isnthe fact that the beginning section on Tatooine was actually decent. It could have been expanded upon and the show could have been more low-key. It would have been like Legends Ben Kenobi with the interplay between Lars and Ben and seeing Ben's new life whike he also has his doubts, like Fringy said. It would have been so much better, and it might have worked out. But nope, Disney couldn't help themselves with adding a character to steal the spotlight and add ridiculous action that makes no sense and looks like shit.
It’s depressing the way they treat Obi Wan in this show. Instead of being an introspective journey alongside Qui Gon with the training yoda gave him, we get fucking ‘Tarla’ as some kind of mentor figure. I also hate the way they just call him old man all the time. The writers at Disney have no reverence for this legacy character, or just older people I guess, that we all care so much about.
Isnt Obi Wan, like, 40? He was maybe 18 or whatever by the time of TPM, and over thirty by RoTS. Its been a decade now, so hes only forty. Doesn't look forty a lot of times here. But apparently hes "old". Jesus. Wait till he gets to fifty. He's gonna be ancient by their standards.
Did the rebel lady say she puts the holster on the other side because you can draw faster?? That completely false. Takes longer to get hand on gun, worse angle for grabbing gun, distance from holster to draw is farther, have to pull across your vision in order to aim. Extremely inefficient
I understand hating the choreography I truly do, but Vader doesnt need GOOD choreography. The dude's entire premise is initmidation and BRUTE STRENGTH. He beats people down and just overpowers them with either saber or the force. He doesn't need good choreography with twirls and flourishes, now literally every other saber fight is literally the most disappointing thing in the world but yea. Disney sucks as well, give George Lucas Lucasfilm back please
Obi-wan that show that makes you wonder whether Disney knows the phrase less is more. Like after this there is no way if these events are canon that Luke and Obi-wan would have stayed undiscovered after that. Like for example when he reaches the first planet in search of Leia, its already over. All it would take for an investigation to figure out where he came from is to look up ships arriving during a certain time period. We know they have ship manifestos now and he clearly didn't smuggle himself there as we see him getting on a ship with other people. So you're telling me that Vader or the empire at large for the next ten to twenty years couldn't find that info? This is why I hate writers trying to fill in blanks they don't need to. It's beyond stupid. Would be a Shrek prequel for how he found the swamp. Do we seriously need to know that?
The Path isn't the Rebel alliance, nor is it the proto-rebel alliance, they are not the same thing as The Path. Also, Vader having a castle on Mustafar isn't a recent addition.
They point out that Vader's voice sounds weird it's because they're using an AI replicator sanctioned by the James Earl Jones estate to use his voice forever. Its the right voice but it still sounds off. They should just hire someone talented.
Whoever is laying the base for the AI to vocode over doesn't understand Mr. Jones' inflection pattern or cadence at all, I honestly believe that a TTS version of the AI voice would deliver a better performance
It's absurd how bad the writing is, the plot holes and lore breaking are off the charts. Easily the worst Disney Wars show, and that's saying something.
once Princess Leia is 18 she's a woman . that logic doesn't really make sense in Star Wars because they have different laws.😂😂so from a simple biological point of view she would be a Woman by 16 because that's the end of puberty for most females no matter the world u live in. not to mention Luke and Leia are probably not even human ITS NOT EARTH. if they didn't die in Battle they would probably have a lifespan of about 200 years so adulthood would legally start at 70 😂😂
this is so garbage... love how the leftist ignore the political parts that made the show bad lmao although it would have been crap anyhow, but less so if it wasn't for that.
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. Nor massive leftism. It was in universe politics. You know very well what i was pointing out. Don't feign ignorance. If you do, you make yourself look like an idiot. And by the same time, you effectively prove that you are one.
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. Not massive leftism. You know very well what i was pointing out. Quit feigning ignorance. Or perhaps you are, for real. Wouldn't be surprise.
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. You know very well what i was pointing out. Quit feigning ignorance. Or perhaps you're not feigning it. Wouldn't be surprised.
"We said no communications but your silence bothers me" is possibly one of the stupidest lines in the whole Star Wars universe.
What does not make any sense about this show is that instead of Bail hiring a bounty hunter (let's say Boba Fett) to get Leia back, they browbeat, perhaps, one of the most wanted men in the universe, Obi Wan, to get her back even though he is, obviously, a shell of his former self. Not only does this risk getting Obi Wan killed, it also seriously risks Bail's entire family ans well as Luke and the rest of the extended Skywalker family. I know this has to happen to get the plot moving, but what a stupid decision.
That’s what happens when you only care about trying to do gratuitous fan service and the story is just an afterthought. You forget that other characters in the universe exist, an entire galaxy’s worth actually.
@@samael4550 can you count this as fan service though?
Nevermind a bounty hunter. Bail could have simply gone before the Senate and said that his daughter was missing.
The Empire's military and intelligence services would be honour bound and very pleased to get to recover his child.
The worst possible thing to do, would be to get Obi wan to go after her and prove the link.
Leia would have been back home within a week if he'd never left Tatooine.
It DOESN'T have to happen to get the plot moving.
It has to happen to get THIS retarded and worthless plot going.
A PROPERLY written show would have LUKE be put in danger and therefore Obi Wan would be the actual person in charge of keeping him safe.
But Disney needs to shove as many women into EVERY project as they possibly can, so we get this slop.
I would've been down for a story about Boba Fett rescuing a young princess leia tbh.
“What did you bring me?” Has to be my favorite gag so far.
Short, sweet and poignant
The guy who wrote, or did the teleplay for all 6 episodes is also responsible for such gems as The Flash, Transformers Rise of the Beasts, King Arthur Legend of the Sword and our favorite... Army of the Dead! This guy is a blight on Hollywood.
Dunno man, sounds like he fits right in with the rest.
blight FROM hollywood
A blight on story telling.
Checks out.
Yet another Star Wars show billed as being about a popular character only to make him look like a fool and instead actually be about some new lady.
And weirdly competent child Leia
"I am not your failure, Obi Wan."
The next line SHOULD have been
"I am, your only success."
Instead, Anakin contradicts himself! The first time they fight he says "I am what you made me."
Then now he says "You didn't kill Anakin, I did."
Anakin's "death" is what made Darth Vader, and now Anakin is just taking all the blame and guilt off Obi Wan by insisting it was purely who he was, not anything Obi Wan did or didn't do.
Broken people tend to contradict eachother often. The truth usually lies inbetween.
Vader's lines are like something you'd program into an action figure toy. It's just generic crap that he could say to Obi-wan anywhere at anytime. These are literally Vader's lines from the show:
"Did you truly think you could defeat me?"
"You have failed."
“You cannot run, Obi-Wan.” ...
“I am what you made me.” ...
“The years have made you weak. ...
“Now you will suffer, Obi-Wan. ...
“Bring him to me.”
"Then you will die!"
It's been years since they saw each other. They should have a LOT more (and better) things to talk about.
When Obi-Wan is climbing into the hatch to avoid the troopers in the hall, if you pause the show at the 15 minute, 33 second time mark, you can clearly see Obi-Wan's entire leg still hanging out of the hatch, and the Stormtroopers are in the frame. There is no way they could have missed him, even wearing an early 80's plastic helmet costume with dark-tinted eyeholes so they look black from the outside (like my mother owned and used to wear to scare us when we were little). Assuming that actual military gear would have better visibility is only sensible (Luke couldn't see, because the gear was too big for him, so the helmet did not sit properly on his head, and he was not trained on the equipment). It's not even that the troopers could not see Obi-Wan because they were out of frame, it's that the direction was that bad.
It makes sense because a stormtrooper hit his head on a door frame, so canonically they can’t see shit.
I own a couple gas masks, you could absolutely get someone saying “I can’t see a thing in this” while wearing something you can see through
brother this show is so godawful you don't even need to pause frames to find problems with it lol
props for going above any beyond the call of duty I suppose
The Prequels Montage at the beginning could quite easily have been recapped with an opening crawl.
Yeah, but they wanted some scenes of something better than the show
The way they make the stormtroopers fight makes me wonder how the empire ever won a battle
Pure numbers at this point, you've got X number of people firing you're bound to hit something eventually lmfao
Especially when they're classed as the elite units. They're the best, handpicked to take down enemies that the regular army can't. Every instance in the OG of stormtroopers appearing is necessary. Vader getting Leias ship, the guarding of the Death Stars and the shiekd generator, and the incident on Bespin. But no Didney made them shit. They even made the clines shit at the start. You onow, the child soldiers bred for war, who were considered to be better than even stormtroopers.
Props to you for putting this together
I appreciate it buddy
@@Ladenstarfish and congrats on 500 subs
@jeppyvp thankyou so much bro :D
1:31:15 all the shots of obi-wan laying in the fire is so fucking funny. especially as vader drags him across it. he looks like a slug or something 🤣
Leia is so mobile it's a shame she forgot to use her speed in episode 4 no way the empire would have been able to capture her! The little fiend can vanish in a blur
"You did it okay the way you did it."
-Bilbo Baggins
LIAR
I understood that reference 🤓👍
Editing was amazing. Hope to see more.
It is still astonishing how overmatched Deborah Chow was throughout this series. Some of the most wretched action sequences in history.
ya know... I never quite noticed it before but at that part where the inquisitor stops her to talk about kenobi, literally have a character explaining her motivations to her... that absolutely bugs me
Kudos for referencing Dirk Lasermaster. Truly a pleasant birthday attack amidst a fart from a lesser god passed off as a multi million dollar show.
The fan films go so hard tho
They really do. The contrast is staggering
I feel like the people of tatooine wouldnt give two shits about reva killing owen. They would be like. Kill him then. I don't know no stinkin Jedi
Rip Wade. We will never see the likes of him again :(
Rip & pepperoni
2:13:23 is so hilarious, the clip he chose to use to show what was going on with Obi-Wan while he was not "saving her and her friends"
Bro wtf...why hasnt he done this...your work is appreciated
Thankyou brother. Glad to be of help
Vader's base being on Mustafa, has been established in what Disney wrongfully made uncanon. Disney did not come up with this, they don't come up with anything remotely interesting.
And Vader's base is on the planet he melted because he's a Sith, they are stronger the more angry and distressed they are. basically the planet pisses him off, so he lives on it to stay pissed off.
2:06:59
Yeah most of the sabers have a dial that changes the amount of damage you can do. It does include a training mode where you get a slight burn and bruise, to even basically instant severing lasers
Yeah! A reference to Auralnauts! I love those videos!
Almost every StarWars show : Oh see. Its Tatooine
Kenobi : Get the f outta here
1:27:55 What's really funny is that this show was the perfect opportunity to see how much Vader has changed (moveset, fighting style, and attitude) compared to how Obi-Wan is more stuck in the past and emotionally compromised than Vader. The first fight between them could show how Obi-Wan won't be able to beat him twice with the same fighting style. Vader would obviously have practiced and built his new fighting style around his previous defeat. And that's just the choreography. The conversation they could've had would make the fight even better. It's so easy to make a brilliant callback and show character development with the fight alone. But no, we get "I am what you made me!"
1:14:50 - leia gets almost shot.
Just use the force you dirty cowboy
This is FANTASTIC! Thank youuu
Happy to be of service
trooper: "alright; thanks Frek", even the troopers were nice.
48:35 "Oh therwa a picture of me because theres been a bounty placed on my head. See, being a Jedi and former Republic Agent, I am an enemy of the Imperials. So is your father. So are you technically. But since im coming to save you, the imperials are trying to stop that". If Leia was actually intelligent, why didnt she figure this shxt out?!
This show is so bad. If it wasnt for the budget no one would be fooled into taking it seriously. Take away the high quality cameras and people would see this for the fan fiction that it is.
This kind of acting and writing makes me think the actor and writer strike deserve to not get what they want. Let them starve.
To comment on your point about the strike, what pains me is there surely are some writers who are competent and willing to write good stories that people would enjoy.
But writers with enough connections and who continue to write this to appease their own egos or that of those above them, will be paid a lot of money to continue their “work.”
For every one film or show of bad writers, I firmly believe that there is someone out there who could have helped or made it better.
@@viddykhaos2896 WRITE here, pal. Who’s got two thumbs and could write circles around these satanic pedophiles and who’s also going to undermine this sincere and lovely reply with this joke? This guuuuuuy.
@@viddykhaos2896 It's sadly the way of things. There are many amazing writers in say the book world but you'll never hear anything about them or even see advertising for their books because only writers with literacy agents get to go with the big publishers. The only other way to get noticed is to enter writing competitions or in Hollywood world that would be self published films which would require money. I imagine there is a similar bunch of middle men in Hollywood that you can only hire if you're rich to start with. Didn't use to be this way but film, books and so on are too commercialised and the creative talent is all hindered by middle men and lack of advertising.
"fan fiction"? More like fake fiction.
Light saber blades look thick and wide, but that's just the glow. When you stab something with them the hole it makes is only like 1/1000 the diameter of a needle. That's why everyone but qui gon keeps surviving stab wounds
They keep forgetting to gut and twist
“There might be a 2nd season, they like money.” Apparently not given how much money Disney is bleeding now a days.
What makes me sad about this show isnthe fact that the beginning section on Tatooine was actually decent. It could have been expanded upon and the show could have been more low-key. It would have been like Legends Ben Kenobi with the interplay between Lars and Ben and seeing Ben's new life whike he also has his doubts, like Fringy said. It would have been so much better, and it might have worked out. But nope, Disney couldn't help themselves with adding a character to steal the spotlight and add ridiculous action that makes no sense and looks like shit.
1:53:03 is the moment you are looking for!
It’s depressing the way they treat Obi Wan in this show. Instead of being an introspective journey alongside Qui Gon with the training yoda gave him, we get fucking ‘Tarla’ as some kind of mentor figure.
I also hate the way they just call him old man all the time. The writers at Disney have no reverence for this legacy character, or just older people I guess, that we all care so much about.
Isnt Obi Wan, like, 40? He was maybe 18 or whatever by the time of TPM, and over thirty by RoTS. Its been a decade now, so hes only forty. Doesn't look forty a lot of times here. But apparently hes "old". Jesus. Wait till he gets to fifty. He's gonna be ancient by their standards.
3:23:14 just like in Kung Pow. “I'll see you again... in the sequel!”
Jay for the win.
All this recapping for a streaming service is just padding the run time.
13:45
No but then they couldn't just reuse the footage
1:55:45 LMFAO
Why does Leia tell luke she could never have his power when she has resisted force brain tism. In her youth?
2:22:36, 2:50:48,, 3:00:32, 3:02:57, 3:06:55, 3:09:17 1:52:28
Whaat da ya bring me!
REEvAh!
Did the rebel lady say she puts the holster on the other side because you can draw faster?? That completely false. Takes longer to get hand on gun, worse angle for grabbing gun, distance from holster to draw is farther, have to pull across your vision in order to aim.
Extremely inefficient
I understand hating the choreography I truly do, but Vader doesnt need GOOD choreography. The dude's entire premise is initmidation and BRUTE STRENGTH. He beats people down and just overpowers them with either saber or the force. He doesn't need good choreography with twirls and flourishes, now literally every other saber fight is literally the most disappointing thing in the world but yea. Disney sucks as well, give George Lucas Lucasfilm back please
Lucas endorses Disney Star wars. He doesn't want it back
The Choreography of that final fight was so atroctious
Obi-wan that show that makes you wonder whether Disney knows the phrase less is more. Like after this there is no way if these events are canon that Luke and Obi-wan would have stayed undiscovered after that. Like for example when he reaches the first planet in search of Leia, its already over. All it would take for an investigation to figure out where he came from is to look up ships arriving during a certain time period. We know they have ship manifestos now and he clearly didn't smuggle himself there as we see him getting on a ship with other people. So you're telling me that Vader or the empire at large for the next ten to twenty years couldn't find that info? This is why I hate writers trying to fill in blanks they don't need to. It's beyond stupid. Would be a Shrek prequel for how he found the swamp. Do we seriously need to know that?
You all keep referring to those people as proto rebels or the infancy of the rebellion... Those people on the transports are not the Rebel alliance.
The Path isn't the Rebel alliance, nor is it the proto-rebel alliance, they are not the same thing as The Path.
Also, Vader having a castle on Mustafar isn't a recent addition.
RLM liked this show…what happened to RLM?
They point out that Vader's voice sounds weird it's because they're using an AI replicator sanctioned by the James Earl Jones estate to use his voice forever. Its the right voice but it still sounds off.
They should just hire someone talented.
Whoever is laying the base for the AI to vocode over doesn't understand Mr. Jones' inflection pattern or cadence at all, I honestly believe that a TTS version of the AI voice would deliver a better performance
Prodigy child exposing and trying to get Obi wan exposed by saying so many dumb stuff. I cant believe how they can make a child the most annoying.
It's absurd how bad the writing is, the plot holes and lore breaking are off the charts. Easily the worst Disney Wars show, and that's saying something.
I still say BoB is worse, but it's comparing rotten apples to rotten oranges
That is not how ten year olds look
She was infact 10 at the time of filming
@@Ladenstarfish She definitely looks younger than average
@@gobert9316 I agree my dude
once Princess Leia is 18 she's a woman . that logic doesn't really make sense in Star Wars because they have different laws.😂😂so from a simple biological point of view she would be a Woman by 16 because that's the end of puberty for most females no matter the world u live in. not to mention Luke and Leia are probably not even human ITS NOT EARTH. if they didn't die in Battle they would probably have a lifespan of about 200 years so adulthood would legally start at 70 😂😂
this is so garbage... love how the leftist ignore the political parts that made the show bad lmao
although it would have been crap anyhow, but less so if it wasn't for that.
Ah yes, politics have never been in Star Wars untik now, and that's the problem
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. Nor massive leftism. It was in universe politics. You know very well what i was pointing out. Don't feign ignorance. If you do, you make yourself look like an idiot. And by the same time, you effectively prove that you are one.
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. Not massive leftism. You know very well what i was pointing out. Quit feigning ignorance. Or perhaps you are, for real. Wouldn't be surprise.
@@Basshead004 Not modern identity politics. You know very well what i was pointing out. Quit feigning ignorance. Or perhaps you're not feigning it. Wouldn't be surprised.