Not even 4 minutes Steve? It's quiet and the video quality is awesome but Steve we must demand more! I nominate you Steve to be the Quad Father and bring our demands!
@MeBoazz I think I'm just too new? I'm slowly coming to understand that these quads are for ripping, flipping, and crashing lol. For me if I drop like 2 bills I'm gonna be super bummed if I crash it or I'm gonna get like 4 minutes which I do now understand is kinda the standard.
I just blind bought this after seeing the reveal wednesday by geprc. Not much info online yet, so im thrilled to see your review so fast. Looks like I'll be happy with it when it arrives. Thank you!
Steve, that camera has that Guard to protect the lens when carrying or transporting it that’s why it folds up an down. And for the low 🪫 just go into Betaflight an change the low battery 🪫 Warning setting. 🤔
@@CAPTAINDRONE798pretty sure captain drone here uses a third party service (mostly likely partnered with banggood) to reply to comments. These replies are terrible, are usually out of context and have weird phrasing. Just dont see this guy saying things like “silly man” “you get the real thing” etc… its bizarre
That’s honestly beautiful my brother. I love how you guys all get together and fly around. I’m actually so jealous because I’m always just flying alone. I really envy you guys and keep up the good work and videos. I really love your stuff and always watch your videos of the drones review before I make a purchase and it’s very helpful.
Well done Captain! (better late than never with a comment!!) glad to see the "people" have finally replaced the "humans" !!!; I think you summed it up with: "a very smooth flying quad"! very graceful in the air!; now, I wonder if the DJI Inspire 2 was smooth and graceful in the air !!!!
That water was glass. 😂 LMAO at how fast my man banked back to land when that telemetry lost alert went off while over water. I really want one of these.
Still amazing video. Would love some standardized loud test, such as sound lever meter while taking off, or flying by. I'm trying to find the quietest FPV
Great video, Steve, and greetings from Oz. I watched this and went straight over and ordered one! Flight time does seem a little low, so what would be the biggest 2s lipo this guy will take? 👍
A 750 would work if it is long and thin. The battery holder is moulded plastic which means the shape of battery is set, although with elastics you could attach any battery.
Amazing the number of flying machines there. Pretty jealous -- we don't have anywhere like that around me, and if you try to go to a high school (if you can even get past the gates) security or the cops will run you off (possibly with a ticket for trespassing).
Mine came with actual rates. But I changed it to betaflight which I'm usto. Anyway mine judders coming from split s. I didn't change the pids. Running xlrs 100hz 250mw.
What is a big fpv drone build I can use with the dji controller and dji headset ? I have avata and want a real drone but not new goggles and controllers
Yes it would be quick because (hopefully you noticed or you needed more coffee) the flight video was chopped up into short segments.... I do not like to put the audience to sleep with lengthy flights, so the flights get chopped up into 3 mins or less.
Very great video, thank you. :) Is it possible for me to ask for the factory Betaflight CLI backup? Unfortunately, it is not possible to download the CLi Dump on the geprc page. :/
Thanks for the review! I’ve been out of the game for a while … actually my gf gave me the goggles integra last Christmas and they have been collecting dust on a shelf… too busy unfortunately and I live in Beijing where it is difficult to fly because is basically banned in the city… so I only have done it indoors or at private fields… anyway… was waiting for gepRC to release a small one with the 03 and this is it… Ive just ordered it but tbh I’m a little concerned with what some pilots comment about this drone not having any vibration dampening … what about jello in the video? I hope it’s ok… I would hate to have to send it back 🙈 thanks again for the review!
As seen in my video samples… no jello. Jello on FPV drones is always caused by the props. If a prop is slightly bent or chipped, you may get Jello, so now you know what the fix is.
Does this need to be set-up in betaflight or something like it? (buttons and stuff) I just bought it and I am wondering if I can just bind/link and fly or I need to do pre-set up in betaflight, which i never used before. I will be using the DJI remote 2 and google 2. A few more: How good is the range? Like 500m? less or more aprox, just to have an idea. Also, can you use 750 mah battery? Is that 2S? Sorry, I'm new to this.... If yes for the betaflight, any tutorials for this? If not, thanks for replying, I appreciate it a lot! :)
In a future video I commented that some viewers are not clueing into the obvious… which is this. If I fly a drone for 5 minutes I don’t show the audience 5 mins of flight as there are many boring parts, so the 5 mins of flight may be chopped up into 3 mins, but the counter will show 5 mins as that was the total flight.
Hello Captain, this is the first time I have contacted you. Wow long time watcher first time button pushing to talk guy. I see it looks like your flying with the plug and play DJI controller. My question is do you think you would get less lost signal if you flew with the Elrs 2.4g option. Sincerely, Pops
Hello. In this video I was flying with the ELRS RADIOMASTER POCKET. The signal in this video that became weak is TELEMETRY which is not the connection between radio/drone that controls flying. Lost TELEMETRY is always do to the antenna on the drone not being able to communicate with the Radio due to interference, such as the human body filled with water blocking the signal.
Captain Drone, I’m a helicopter guy and new to fpv drone. I’m currently own DJI avata combo kit with DJI fpv controller 2 and recently started to fly on manual mode. I’m able to do flip and rolls, but nothing crazy. I do like the look of dark star 20 and your review. If I get this drone, do I have to do anything else to get this drone up and flying with my current setup from DJI avata.
Nice video Steve. I am looking for something that is in between a race drone, and a camera drone. What I really want is a camera drone that looks more real when it flies, will bank on a turn and be more robust if I do happen to crash it. I don't need crazy speed but comparible to a mavic or evo. Any suggestions?
FPV drones with the DJI O3 camera system now come in all sizes and shapes and they are all good. If you are a newbie to FPV then you have a massive uphill learning curve, so perhaps start off with a small Ready To Fly Kit. Or if you are only used to DJI, then the DJI AVATA is a good starting place as it has a Beginner mode that lets it fly like a DJI MAVIC which is perfect for beginners. And then when you wish you can try MANUAL mode and CRASH multiple times until you get the hang of flying FPV. But the great thing is that the FPV Goggles can then be used with all the DJI O3 FPV drones.
Thanks for the great review. If you had to choose between the DarkStar 20 and the Cinelog25 V2 as a beginner, which would you choose? I'm looking to fly indoors to create FPV fly-throughs, and also shoot outdoor footage. Thanks.
Yikes… beginners will not have the skills to fly indoors with either of these. If you have no FPV flying skills get yourself the BETAFPV Aquila16 kit or the SUB250 WHOOPFLY16 RTF kit
Thanks for your reply. I'm racking up the hours in Liftoff before I purchase (15 hours so far). Indoor flying is a long way off, I understand. I'll have a look at those you've recommended but I don't mind spending the money on good kit from the outset (I want the DJI O3 system for example)
Steve, I watch all of your videos and I'm just wondering. Do you buy all these drones and stuff or do you get them from the manufacturer to do reviews on them, like promotional stuff? I know you have quite the collection. Also, what Tx would you recommend for a beginning pilot? Thank you for another great video/review.
Since I live in Canada, nothing is free. All drones come at a cost, but a reduced cost. Today the most common RECEIVER is ELRS but it is also the most difficult to configure for people with no experience.
Hey there Steve! Have a quick question for you. I purchased this drone and absolutely love it. I am noticing other drones this size like the Pavo Pico that has a flight controller with 20 amp ESC so it will handle 3S batteries. What's your opinion on making that type of modification to the dark star? Would you just have to change the AIO or would I also have to change the motors? I'm just curious what your opinion is on this. This is my first 2S drone so I notice a huge difference in power and flight time. But of course there are many trade-offs. After the baby hawk '03 this is my second favorite drone at the moment. It's so amazing that we can get this type of video quality and such a small form factor. Did you ever think it would get to this point? Happy flying from Sunny Clearwater Florida
The reason so many manufacturers are creating 2S drones is due to new motor and ESC technology that uses less power. So less battery weight, small drone, plenty of power, is a hit!
Great little quad by Geprc for stunning videos! Between PNP and elrs version which one do you recommend for better signal penetration? I understand PNP can be used only with DJI remote 2 while ELRS can be combined with an extended range of controllers🤔.
I'd go ELRS, that way there is some redundancy. I'm pretty sure if you loose video signal you also loose your RC link if you go for the PNP. ELRS has more range and penetration than my goggles 2.
@@thomasp8394 thanks🙏 currently I'm using goggles V2 old stuff which I believe have really solid signal and penetration. Then I might combine with ELRS or Crossfire for even better range😎
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Okey I understand what you mean captain 😎 I will then choose between ELRS or Crossfire depending on my needs. Might combine also with Radiomaster Pocket or Zorro I think the zorro can support both ELRS & crossfire with module behind😉
Hey steve! Great Video! In Ur opinion, For beginners is it a better option than cinelog 20? or Cinelog 20 worth the extra 100 dollars that cost more than the Darkstar?
The CINELOG line of drones are excellent. This one is small in size which is the selling feature. I’d go with whichever one has the batteries you currently own
I have not tried the Happymodel Mobula 8 03 so can’t say. Happymodel brand has been more in the budget drone category so you’d have to compare components/specs.
Thank you so much for your reply, Steve! So far, I have concluded, based, however, only on reviews of these products, that the Happymodel mobula 8 O3 is more focused on "freestyle" and acrobatics, and the GepRC Darkstar20 DJI O3 is more cinematic. The cinematic style of flight is more interesting to me, so I probably choose Darkstar)
Dji O3 aside, how would you compare the performance of the darkstar with the tinygo 4k? I just got the tinygo (latest model which has the same FC AIO + ELRS) and I was wondering if this would be a good upgrade at some point??
The Darkstar is simply a tiny drone with the expensive DJI O3 system. Such a drone is for people who need a tiny drone with a high end camera. If you are looking for performance, and want to try something different then look at 4” and 5” prop drones.
The O3 air unit is hard-mounted. What is your opinion if the drone had a decent amount of crash say on a concrete (if) vibrations/jello are going to be visible in the video?
I always begin to consider landing when I see 3.4 that remains constantly. Batteries are not harmed, even if landing at 3.2, but I’d never go lower than that as most FPV drones fall out of the sky at 3.2. For newbies, they don’t have a hundred batteries so they should certainly land way earlier.
You have two signals… one to the RECEIVER that controls the flight and one to the VIDEO. If you use a DJI REMOTE 2 and DJI FPV GOGGLES the two signals are squashed into one and it is up to the pilot to notice in the goggles that the signal is dropping. But if you use an ELRS or CROSSFIRE receiver with a non DJI REMOTE, then you have two separate signals and will receiver a warning when the telemetry signal (controlling the drone) drops in strength. Telemetry is normally always a longer range then video.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks for taking the time to reply captain! What I meant actually was if the rx trasmits 2 signals (telemetry and radio)? since you were getting the 'telemetry lost' warning quite often however you were still had radio signal, does that mean that the telemetry signal of your elrs is actually weaker than the actual radio signal? Since you weren't failsafe everytime you had telemetry lost so the radio signal was still fine (but maybe was getting weaker)? Hope that makes sense I had the same think my crossfire where I was getting the 'telemetry lost' warning all the time till I just turned it off cause it was bothering me lol
@@leomatis_Telemetry is what you call the “radio” signal. As mentioned in my previous response it is just a warning to the pilot that if you keep doing what you’re doing (blocking the signal) then you may end up with a complete disconnect. This is all set up in your radio and I have mine set for an Early Warning.
I have mine set to a sensitive level, in other words the telemetry (signal from the receiver to my radio) only needs to drop on a quick outage. Just in case you are still confused… let me put it this way… your radio speaks to the RECEIVER in your drone to control it. The RECEIVER speaks to your Radio. When you get Telemetry Lost is means your Radio in your hands is picking up a weak signal from the RECEIVER in the drone. However the RECEIVER in the drone is still receiving the commands from your radio. This is why no one panics when they hear Telemetry Lost but rather just corrects the situation by unblocking the signal.
My camera was slightly tilted upward for my flights and I was on ultra wide view. If camera is pointed straight forward I don’t believe prop guards would be in frame but never tried it. If they are, the fix is to not set camera to ultra wide.
I just bought the geprecdark star 20 and y cannot flash it. When i tried to do it trough wifi mode, it appears that the receiver is beta fpv 2.4 nano. I dont know what firmware set up, if it is elsr beta 2.4 nano or geprec 2.4 nano as the manual said. What do you suggest?
@@wilmerpazos81if the receiver is an ELRS receiver, it should Flash, as long as the correct receiver is selected. I have had issues with some drones where I could not update the firmware on a receiver, in such cases, I then downgraded the ELRS firmware on my transmitter to match. Also, one thing to note is that if your transmitter is using ELRS 3.x. (“X” being whatever version), you don’t have to match the receiver to the exact ELRS version. ELRS is designed so that if the receiver is on firmware 3.1 and the transmitter is on version 3.4, they will still bind & talk together, so that means if you are trying to upgrade to something like 3.4, try 3.3 or 3.2 or 3.1 etc, instead.
Darkstar 20 is very small and designed for pilots that don't mind 4 mins of flight time (max) and will not crash into anything solid (pavement, concrete, bricks), but it is the perfect INDOOR/OUTDOOR mini FPV drone with DJI O3 quality camera. The Cinelog 20 is all of the above, but takes crashes better, and has vibration dampening and has the potential for an external camera. The 25 is just more of this (bigger) running on a 4S battery.
Hey man i wanted to ask what you would prefer... 5" freestyle or 7" longrange and i have so many choices between chimera, moz7, nazgul v3, evoque v2, mark 5 and sooo much more... maybe you have some tips for me (i fly analog with elrs)
I’ll say what I always say… what I prefer for my skills and needs is not what you’d prefer. Simply look at your needs and flying abilities and locations to fly and go from there.
so to clarify, if you will. IF I own the original DJI FPV, I should only need to buy DRONE, BATTERIES, & A CHARGER? all other equipment will work with this drone? I want to get one like this, but i dont really want to have to buy all separate equipment.
Hi Steve. I noticed you get the telemetry lost warning. I sometimes get that but at an insane rate, literally back to back 10 times in a row sometimes. I've never lost control of the quad. Just the telemetry warning. Should I be worried?
No worries. Telemetry warning is set in your radio. When your radio finds the Telemetry signal from the receiver in the drone is low, you hear the warning… but, it has no effect on flight, that is a different connection. I used to turn the warning off when setting up drones so that I would not be bothered. The one to pay more attention to is “RSSI Low”… that means your signal is being blocked and you could lose connection with the drone.
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Always fun to watch your videos, Steve, and I get to learn something new almost every time. One of my all times favorite channel.
Wow, thanks!
Not even 4 minutes Steve? It's quiet and the video quality is awesome but Steve we must demand more! I nominate you Steve to be the Quad Father and bring our demands!
Yes... in 2023, 5 mins should be the minimum for all tiny FPV Quads.
normal flight time for these are 2 to 3 minutes. 4:30 is insane.
@MeBoazz I think I'm just too new? I'm slowly coming to understand that these quads are for ripping, flipping, and crashing lol. For me if I drop like 2 bills I'm gonna be super bummed if I crash it or I'm gonna get like 4 minutes which I do now understand is kinda the standard.
Looks beefier than the pavo pico. A naked oh 3 might be the 🎉.
Love that you get to the flying first before unboxing. Makes the video more interesting faster.
I just blind bought this after seeing the reveal wednesday by geprc. Not much info online yet, so im thrilled to see your review so fast. Looks like I'll be happy with it when it arrives. Thank you!
Enjoy!
I want this little drone. Great video, thanks for showing it off ❤
Steve, that camera has that Guard to protect the lens when carrying or transporting it that’s why it folds up an down. And for the low 🪫 just go into Betaflight an change the low battery 🪫 Warning setting. 🤔
Saw the release of this drone few days ago, and waited for a review. Thx to you! :)
Even at 3.3v, there's a real risk of burning out one cell. Set a positive example for your newbie viewers, land by 3.5v :)
No preaching on this channel…. Viewers get the real thing.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798pretty sure captain drone here uses a third party service (mostly likely partnered with banggood) to reply to comments. These replies are terrible, are usually out of context and have weird phrasing. Just dont see this guy saying things like “silly man” “you get the real thing” etc… its bizarre
@@SofiaisSunshine CaptainDrone doesn't have a number after his screen name. That's a fake account.
@@frogsodaif you go to his main page you will see that he does have 798 after his username
That’s honestly beautiful my brother. I love how you guys all get together and fly around. I’m actually so jealous because I’m always just flying alone. I really envy you guys and keep up the good work and videos. I really love your stuff and always watch your videos of the drones review before I make a purchase and it’s very helpful.
Thanks 👍 Glad you enjoyed the vid!
Captain, I think there is a problem with the DarkStar 20. There is obvious jelly at 8:40.
Well done Captain! (better late than never with a comment!!) glad to see the "people" have finally replaced the "humans" !!!; I think you summed it up with: "a very smooth flying quad"! very graceful in the air!; now, I wonder if the DJI Inspire 2 was smooth and graceful in the air !!!!
That water was glass. 😂 LMAO at how fast my man banked back to land when that telemetry lost alert went off while over water. I really want one of these.
Seems to be a very nice quality drone steve and Geprc diss good job
Steve I love watching your videos there so helpfully and great to watch so huge thanks
Glad you like them! Thank you so much!
Fun video ! 😃
Great footage from a very cool quad !!
Hang in there Steve, nice work.
Another great choice for a quad with the DJI 03, thanks again for a great review.
My pleasure!!
Such smooth flight delighted to see less noise lovely 😍
Excellent video and excellent flying. Nice FPV. Thank you Steve.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Steve.....Very nice quad. Great video out of the O3 camera......👍
Thanks 👍. Yes, the camera is great!
crazy u can fly all those around together, around people and a park with people doing stuff too!
The trick is to not annoy anyone and to never fly close to people that don’t know you
Me like quad! Me want quad! 😂 really nice flight footage and review. Thanks👍👍😀
I love your vipe Steve! You are like my fpv drone father.
Corey… I am your Father! Join me on the Dark side (errr, Drone side).
Another nice Quad and review Steve.
Still amazing video. Would love some standardized loud test, such as sound lever meter while taking off, or flying by. I'm trying to find the quietest FPV
Same
Good evening captain nice drone cool review
like the new promotional start up video...i think u need background music from Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
new promotional start up video? Perhaps that is something TH-cam is tossing in for your region of the world.
Zoooom!!!!nice Steve as usual 👍👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 always Steve 👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent captain! ELRS seems really weak! Hmm!
Great video, Steve, and greetings from Oz. I watched this and went straight over and ordered one! Flight time does seem a little low, so what would be the biggest 2s lipo this guy will take? 👍
A 750 would work if it is long and thin. The battery holder is moulded plastic which means the shape of battery is set, although with elastics you could attach any battery.
And also, if you ever find yourself in Australia. Try and get in contact with me. Would love to take you around the spots in Sydney
Wow! I certainly would appreciate that!
How this does compare to the Pavo Pico or Pavo20?
What a nice place to fly
Another sic one
Snow will be soon back again, Keep smiling. Been a while I know.
Amazing the number of flying machines there. Pretty jealous -- we don't have anywhere like that around me, and if you try to go to a high school (if you can even get past the gates) security or the cops will run you off (possibly with a ticket for trespassing).
Another cool from geprc,they follow the 2inch o3 trend
Beautiful flight!
Can you do a comparison video on FlyLens 75 HD O3 \O3 Lite 2S Brushless Whoop FPV Drone vs GEPRC DarkStar 20 HD
This thing rips!
I like the set up great footage
Great video as always! The sound was clipping a lot more than usual, just wanted you to know.
Interesting. Normally zero clipping when sound is recorded outdoors… unless of course I’m yelling.
Mine came with actual rates. But I changed it to betaflight which I'm usto.
Anyway mine judders coming from split s. I didn't change the pids. Running xlrs 100hz 250mw.
will Tattu R-Line 1.0 LiPo Rechargeable Battery 2S 3S1P 550mAh 95C will fit on the slot?
Awesome
Wow - epic drone
What is a big fpv drone build I can use with the dji controller and dji headset ?
I have avata and want a real drone but not new goggles and controllers
Just watch any of my 6" or 7" FPV Drone reviews.
Thanks for all great reviews! Is the second counter for flight time not a little quick...? ☺️
Yes it would be quick because (hopefully you noticed or you needed more coffee) the flight video was chopped up into short segments.... I do not like to put the audience to sleep with lengthy flights, so the flights get chopped up into 3 mins or less.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 oh so it's on purpose not real time... I was confused but now I think I get it. ☺️
hard mounted o3 cam is a deal breaker for me
Hi captain, i think darkstar 20 is a great fpv drone, but if compared with cinelog 20, who is better?
Excelente video ! Gracias !
Nice quad. I really like geprc, but they are way too expansive compared to the pavo pico for example.
Very great video, thank you. :)
Is it possible for me to ask for the factory Betaflight CLI backup?
Unfortunately, it is not possible to download the CLi Dump on the geprc page. :/
I think the Flylens 85 is better
awsome review steve.
Thanks
Looks fun
Could you please share the GEPRC Darkstar20 CLI Dump.
Perfect Review!
Thanks for the review! I’ve been out of the game for a while … actually my gf gave me the goggles integra last Christmas and they have been collecting dust on a shelf… too busy unfortunately and I live in Beijing where it is difficult to fly because is basically banned in the city… so I only have done it indoors or at private fields… anyway… was waiting for gepRC to release a small one with the 03 and this is it… Ive just ordered it but tbh I’m a little concerned with what some pilots comment about this drone not having any vibration dampening … what about jello in the video? I hope it’s ok… I would hate to have to send it back 🙈 thanks again for the review!
As seen in my video samples… no jello. Jello on FPV drones is always caused by the props. If a prop is slightly bent or chipped, you may get Jello, so now you know what the fix is.
Great drone review!!!..so anything with the dji 03 air unit will work with my dji fpv goggles and controller ?
Pretty much, but before you buy anything, please watch my TH-cam video entitled: CAPTAIN DRONE FPV FOR BEGINNERS EPISODE 12
Does this need to be set-up in betaflight or something like it? (buttons and stuff) I just bought it and I am wondering if I can just bind/link and fly or I need to do pre-set up in betaflight, which i never used before. I will be using the DJI remote 2 and google 2. A few more: How good is the range? Like 500m? less or more aprox, just to have an idea. Also, can you use 750 mah battery? Is that 2S? Sorry, I'm new to this....
If yes for the betaflight, any tutorials for this? If not, thanks for replying, I appreciate it a lot! :)
You sound extremely lost. This will help you out: th-cam.com/video/zPf9b-X6cFw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Vbcxs_4rP9ggSvNg
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 thanks for your comment! 🤣 I'm new to this, IDK if you realized yet... I'll check the link. 🤙
Thanks Cap!
What’s up with the seconds counter😂😂
In a future video I commented that some viewers are not clueing into the obvious… which is this. If I fly a drone for 5 minutes I don’t show the audience 5 mins of flight as there are many boring parts, so the 5 mins of flight may be chopped up into 3 mins, but the counter will show 5 mins as that was the total flight.
Im living in India how can I buy this product. ?? Tail me what is the prosidure of buy the drone .❤
Hello Captain, this is the first time I have contacted you. Wow long time watcher first time button pushing to talk guy. I see it looks like your flying with the plug and play DJI controller. My question is do you think you would get less lost signal if you flew with the Elrs 2.4g option. Sincerely, Pops
Hello. In this video I was flying with the ELRS RADIOMASTER POCKET. The signal in this video that became weak is TELEMETRY which is not the connection between radio/drone that controls flying. Lost TELEMETRY is always do to the antenna on the drone not being able to communicate with the Radio due to interference, such as the human body filled with water blocking the signal.
Captain Drone,
I’m a helicopter guy and new to fpv drone. I’m currently own DJI avata combo kit with DJI fpv controller 2 and recently started to fly on manual mode. I’m able to do flip and rolls, but nothing crazy.
I do like the look of dark star 20 and your review. If I get this drone, do I have to do anything else to get this drone up and flying with my current setup from DJI avata.
You have to buy the PNP version and you have to watch this video (do avTH-cam search for it): CAPTAIN DRONE FPV FOR BEGINNERS EPISODE 12
Looks like the pavo pico
Nice video Steve. I am looking for something that is in between a race drone, and a camera drone. What I really want is a camera drone that looks more real when it flies, will bank on a turn and be more robust if I do happen to crash it. I don't need crazy speed but comparible to a mavic or evo. Any suggestions?
FPV drones with the DJI O3 camera system now come in all sizes and shapes and they are all good. If you are a newbie to FPV then you have a massive uphill learning curve, so perhaps start off with a small Ready To Fly Kit. Or if you are only used to DJI, then the DJI AVATA is a good starting place as it has a Beginner mode that lets it fly like a DJI MAVIC which is perfect for beginners. And then when you wish you can try MANUAL mode and CRASH multiple times until you get the hang of flying FPV. But the great thing is that the FPV Goggles can then be used with all the DJI O3 FPV drones.
Thanks for the great review. If you had to choose between the DarkStar 20 and the Cinelog25 V2 as a beginner, which would you choose? I'm looking to fly indoors to create FPV fly-throughs, and also shoot outdoor footage. Thanks.
Yikes… beginners will not have the skills to fly indoors with either of these. If you have no FPV flying skills get yourself the BETAFPV Aquila16 kit or the SUB250 WHOOPFLY16 RTF kit
Thanks for your reply. I'm racking up the hours in Liftoff before I purchase (15 hours so far). Indoor flying is a long way off, I understand. I'll have a look at those you've recommended but I don't mind spending the money on good kit from the outset (I want the DJI O3 system for example)
What do you mean with" if you get the DJI O3 system you can use the Avatar FPV goggles"? Is this a hint for the new caddx goggles coming out soon?
Did I saw AVATAR? Oppss… that should have been INTEGRA.
I've just bought the mobula8 with the 03 installed otherwise I'd have had this one😁
Steve, I watch all of your videos and I'm just wondering. Do you buy all these drones and stuff or do you get them from the manufacturer to do reviews on them, like promotional stuff?
I know you have quite the collection.
Also, what Tx would you recommend for a beginning pilot?
Thank you for another great video/review.
Since I live in Canada, nothing is free. All drones come at a cost, but a reduced cost. Today the most common RECEIVER is ELRS but it is also the most difficult to configure for people with no experience.
Any flight/handling difference between this and the Defender 20 or Pavo20?
Hey there Steve! Have a quick question for you. I purchased this drone and absolutely love it. I am noticing other drones this size like the Pavo Pico that has a flight controller with 20 amp ESC so it will handle 3S batteries. What's your opinion on making that type of modification to the dark star? Would you just have to change the AIO or would I also have to change the motors? I'm just curious what your opinion is on this. This is my first 2S drone so I notice a huge difference in power and flight time. But of course there are many trade-offs. After the baby hawk '03 this is my second favorite drone at the moment. It's so amazing that we can get this type of video quality and such a small form factor. Did you ever think it would get to this point? Happy flying from Sunny Clearwater Florida
The reason so many manufacturers are creating 2S drones is due to new motor and ESC technology that uses less power. So less battery weight, small drone, plenty of power, is a hit!
Can we use 4s lipo battery on this quad?
How does this compare to the iFlight Defender?
Smaller, does not overheat, can use your own batteries.... but, flight time is less :-(
For this drone equipped with the DJI O3, do you need a suitable mask to have video feedback or does an Eachine type receiver do the trick?
Eachine goggles only work with an ANALOG drone and not anything DIGITAL.
could you recommend goggles suitable for this drone and which do not cost very much?
Great little quad by Geprc for stunning videos! Between PNP and elrs version which one do you recommend for better signal penetration? I understand PNP can be used only with DJI remote 2 while ELRS can be combined with an extended range of controllers🤔.
I'd go ELRS, that way there is some redundancy. I'm pretty sure if you loose video signal you also loose your RC link if you go for the PNP. ELRS has more range and penetration than my goggles 2.
@@thomasp8394 thanks🙏 currently I'm using goggles V2 old stuff which I believe have really solid signal and penetration. Then I might combine with ELRS or Crossfire for even better range😎
ELRS is superior, but..... and it is a BIG but. Newbies have a hard time understanding ELRS and configuring everything.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Okey I understand what you mean captain 😎 I will then choose between ELRS or Crossfire depending on my needs. Might combine also with Radiomaster Pocket or Zorro I think the zorro can support both ELRS & crossfire with module behind😉
can i fly the drone with the Eachine EV800DM (googles)?
Nope
What do you recommend for removing the DarkStar20 propeller? :)
You simply pry them off. If you are a handy man around the house you’ll be able to do it without damaging the prop/motor.
Hey steve! Great Video!
In Ur opinion, For beginners is it a better option than cinelog 20? or Cinelog 20 worth the extra 100 dollars that cost more than the Darkstar?
The CINELOG line of drones are excellent. This one is small in size which is the selling feature. I’d go with whichever one has the batteries you currently own
Is the flight time of about four minutes too little? Is it possible to add more flight time?
Larger battery equals longer flight time, but too large and it affects performance.
Hello! What would you recommend to purchase at the moment - GepRC Darkstar20 DJI O3 or Happymodel mobula 8 O3?
I have not tried the Happymodel Mobula 8 03 so can’t say. Happymodel brand has been more in the budget drone category so you’d have to compare components/specs.
Thank you so much for your reply, Steve! So far, I have concluded, based, however, only on reviews of these products, that the Happymodel mobula 8 O3 is more focused on "freestyle" and acrobatics, and the GepRC Darkstar20 DJI O3 is more cinematic. The cinematic style of flight is more interesting to me, so I probably choose Darkstar)
Dji O3 aside, how would you compare the performance of the darkstar with the tinygo 4k? I just got the tinygo (latest model which has the same FC AIO + ELRS) and I was wondering if this would be a good upgrade at some point??
The Darkstar is simply a tiny drone with the expensive DJI O3 system. Such a drone is for people who need a tiny drone with a high end camera. If you are looking for performance, and want to try something different then look at 4” and 5” prop drones.
Do you see a whole picture with your glasses or two little screens?
Two screens but obviously your brain converts them to one (just like in daily life)
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks for the answer. But you still see a rectangular screen in your glasses, right?
The O3 air unit is hard-mounted. What is your opinion if the drone had a decent amount of crash say on a concrete (if) vibrations/jello are going to be visible in the video?
Vibrations are always the product of props. So if ever you get vibrations it means the props need replacing.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 but if you see the designs of betafpv, flywoo, ect. all of them have soft mounting for the camera...
There is obvious jelly at 8:40.
You should certainly try to be landing at 3.5v. You know this, Steve, but you don't tell your viewers that could be newbies.
I always begin to consider landing when I see 3.4 that remains constantly. Batteries are not harmed, even if landing at 3.2, but I’d never go lower than that as most FPV drones fall out of the sky at 3.2. For newbies, they don’t have a hundred batteries so they should certainly land way earlier.
Does telemetry have less range than the actual signal?
You have two signals… one to the RECEIVER that controls the flight and one to the VIDEO. If you use a DJI REMOTE 2 and DJI FPV GOGGLES the two signals are squashed into one and it is up to the pilot to notice in the goggles that the signal is dropping. But if you use an ELRS or CROSSFIRE receiver with a non DJI REMOTE, then you have two separate signals and will receiver a warning when the telemetry signal (controlling the drone) drops in strength. Telemetry is normally always a longer range then video.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks for taking the time to reply captain! What I meant actually was if the rx trasmits 2 signals (telemetry and radio)? since you were getting the 'telemetry lost' warning quite often however you were still had radio signal, does that mean that the telemetry signal of your elrs is actually weaker than the actual radio signal? Since you weren't failsafe everytime you had telemetry lost so the radio signal was still fine (but maybe was getting weaker)? Hope that makes sense
I had the same think my crossfire where I was getting the 'telemetry lost' warning all the time till I just turned it off cause it was bothering me lol
@@leomatis_Telemetry is what you call the “radio” signal. As mentioned in my previous response it is just a warning to the pilot that if you keep doing what you’re doing (blocking the signal) then you may end up with a complete disconnect. This is all set up in your radio and I have mine set for an Early Warning.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I see thank you! May I know what limit you have set yours? Or is it just on/off? It’s been a while since I disabled mine
I have mine set to a sensitive level, in other words the telemetry (signal from the receiver to my radio) only needs to drop on a quick outage. Just in case you are still confused… let me put it this way… your radio speaks to the RECEIVER in your drone to control it. The RECEIVER speaks to your Radio. When you get Telemetry Lost is means your Radio in your hands is picking up a weak signal from the RECEIVER in the drone. However the RECEIVER in the drone is still receiving the commands from your radio. This is why no one panics when they hear Telemetry Lost but rather just corrects the situation by unblocking the signal.
Hey Steve, Is the camera angle adjustable? If so are the props in view if you angle it down for slow cinematic flights?
My camera was slightly tilted upward for my flights and I was on ultra wide view. If camera is pointed straight forward I don’t believe prop guards would be in frame but never tried it. If they are, the fix is to not set camera to ultra wide.
Ok. Copy that thank you.
I just bought the geprecdark star 20 and y cannot flash it. When i tried to do it trough wifi mode, it appears that the receiver is beta fpv 2.4 nano. I dont know what firmware set up, if it is elsr beta 2.4 nano or geprec 2.4 nano as the manual said. What do you suggest?
You sound lost, or the words you are using, make little sense. First off, what do you mean “try to flash it”? And what exactly are you flashing?
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 im.sorry, when i tried to flash de last elrs firmware in elrs configurator
@@wilmerpazos81if the receiver is an ELRS receiver, it should Flash, as long as the correct receiver is selected. I have had issues with some drones where I could not update the firmware on a receiver, in such cases, I then downgraded the ELRS firmware on my transmitter to match. Also, one thing to note is that if your transmitter is using ELRS 3.x. (“X” being whatever version), you don’t have to match the receiver to the exact ELRS version. ELRS is designed so that if the receiver is on firmware 3.1 and the transmitter is on version 3.4, they will still bind & talk together, so that means if you are trying to upgrade to something like 3.4, try 3.3 or 3.2 or 3.1 etc, instead.
Did you notice any jello effect? The camera seems to be hard mounted
No jello observed. Keep in mind that Jello is always a result of props, so if props get slightly bent or chipped, the unbalance will cause Jello.
thank you for your review. what would you recommend: Cinelog20, or Darkstar?
Darkstar 20 is very small and designed for pilots that don't mind 4 mins of flight time (max) and will not crash into anything solid (pavement, concrete, bricks), but it is the perfect INDOOR/OUTDOOR mini FPV drone with DJI O3 quality camera. The Cinelog 20 is all of the above, but takes crashes better, and has vibration dampening and has the potential for an external camera. The 25 is just more of this (bigger) running on a 4S battery.
thanks! having Avata as well, looks DarkStar is better as small and quiet spy fpv :))) @@CAPTAINDRONE798
Can put GoPro naked in drone ?
There is no place to mount it
Hey man i wanted to ask what you would prefer... 5" freestyle or 7" longrange and i have so many choices between chimera, moz7, nazgul v3, evoque v2, mark 5 and sooo much more... maybe you have some tips for me (i fly analog with elrs)
I’ll say what I always say… what I prefer for my skills and needs is not what you’d prefer. Simply look at your needs and flying abilities and locations to fly and go from there.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 but from the ones i listed what would you recommend? because you basicly have all of them at home
so to clarify, if you will. IF I own the original DJI FPV, I should only need to buy DRONE, BATTERIES, & A CHARGER? all other equipment will work with this drone? I want to get one like this, but i dont really want to have to buy all separate equipment.
If you have the original DJI FPV drone then you have the Version 1 FPV goggles. Those goggles are incompatible with the DJI O3 Air unit.
I was wondering about this too, looks like you'll have to buy the DJI Goggles 2
Or you could buy the WASP version stated at 10:50
@@crookers2135 Yes, i saw that but dissapointed! really trying to NOT spend so much out of pocket & to have multiple set ups is annoying LOL
can it lift a naked go pro?
can you share your pid parameters?
I never touch PIDS or rates on any FPV Drone. I’ve been flying for so long that I simply adjust my inputs (fingers) to how the drone is setup.
Hi Steve. I noticed you get the telemetry lost warning. I sometimes get that but at an insane rate, literally back to back 10 times in a row sometimes. I've never lost control of the quad. Just the telemetry warning. Should I be worried?
No worries. Telemetry warning is set in your radio. When your radio finds the Telemetry signal from the receiver in the drone is low, you hear the warning… but, it has no effect on flight, that is a different connection. I used to turn the warning off when setting up drones so that I would not be bothered. The one to pay more attention to is “RSSI Low”… that means your signal is being blocked and you could lose connection with the drone.
Do you have Jello with this drone? The Pavo Pico has extreme jello
Jello is always caused by the props, which makes it easy to fix in most causes. No Jello with the DJI O3.
Can it handle slight winds?
In ACRO/AIR mode yes.