Last Military to March With Swastikas

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  • One European nation's military still parades with swastika flags - who they are and why they do this makes for an interesting investigation.
    Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...
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  • @philodendron6
    @philodendron6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3191

    'The hisorically challenged' a wonderful understatement.

    • @MM0IMC
      @MM0IMC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      There's many of them about. 🙄

    • @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
      @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Oh boy

    • @dirtdigger949
      @dirtdigger949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Agreed

    • @igoralmeida9136
      @igoralmeida9136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      ​@@MM0IMC vast majority of people sadly

    • @borreLore
      @borreLore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The restarted if you will

  • @TheDerperado
    @TheDerperado 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3286

    If I'm correct, Finnish Air Force only removed the swastika from their uniforms. Apparently they got fed up explaining to foreign soldiers that the emblem has nothing to do with nazis.
    Most of Finns know the story behind the Finnish swastika, and don't want it removed copletely,

    • @GunnarMunktroja
      @GunnarMunktroja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      This is only the case with the Air Force HQ. They changed their unit emblem. Obviously they also have a lot of foreign contacts so this matter comes up. Other AF units have not changed their emblems and AF Academy still has the swastika as a part of their logo. Other units never had the swastika as part of their logos. Most visible use of the swastika is indeed the flags. All AF units have the same motif in the center of the flag.

    • @Yonisaj12
      @Yonisaj12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      Hitler abused that symbol, regardless of what it meant to everyone around the world.

    • @28ebdh3udnav
      @28ebdh3udnav 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      That's what I have to explain to college students who apparently studied Hinduism, World geography, and other religions, etc..

    • @kurtwicklund8901
      @kurtwicklund8901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You interviewed all of them eh?

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      That's also not entirely true - as stated in this video, Finland was allied with the Nazi's. It's still a symbol of European ultra-nationalism, the ideology that the Nazi's were infamous for. It's also worth noting that the Nazis remain a contemporary political force in American and Europe, and exalting their symbols is not exactly a good look.

  • @andyperez2742
    @andyperez2742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! GREAT VIDEO! VERY INFORMATIVE!!
    Thats incredible that people choose to be stupid rather than to be educated. History should not be erased, kept secret, revised, lied about nor forgotten.

    • @carolynking1625
      @carolynking1625 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was told as a child it was an Indian symbol, when my grandmother made a blanket for me with swastika symbols on it. But as time went on, all I could see it as is a Nazi symbol that seems insane my grandmother would make, given my grandfather's first born son was killed fighting the Nazis in World War II. I don't have the heart to throw it out since she made it, but it just sits in the attic with the moths. I don't want that symbol around me!

    • @user-po1sk7mt5p
      @user-po1sk7mt5p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@carolynking1625 А в какую сторону направлены лучи ? В ту же как у немецких фашистов , или в обратную ? Это имеет большое значение . Для того , кому предназначена . В этом сокрыта информация .

  • @WellWisdom.
    @WellWisdom. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

    It amazes me how little of history the common student knows. Thanks for this video.

    • @mRcOOL5YO
      @mRcOOL5YO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      watch Europa the last battle, if you want to learn everything about the nazis

    • @christofthedead
      @christofthedead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      there's literally 100,000+ years of history to learn, why would you expect children to know that much?

    • @MK-U-N
      @MK-U-N 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mRcOOL5YO Swastika has nothing to do with specifically Nazi's. You just made it obvious you missed the point.

    • @jackclements2163
      @jackclements2163 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The common student, or the average student?

    • @mRcOOL5YO
      @mRcOOL5YO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MK-U-N im aware its much older than the nazis and im aware of its protective symbolism. I think we read the comment we posted on differently. I read the comment, as you read mine, that we only associate the swastika with the 1930 era Germany.

  • @organickevinlondon
    @organickevinlondon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3681

    "the Swastika Laundry Company" sounds like a good name for a hardcore Punk or Death Metal band.

    • @kenkruger481
      @kenkruger481 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      Or the name of a popular but expensive restaurant in Cali frequented by Gavin Newsom.

    • @leviturner3265
      @leviturner3265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      When I heard / seen that name in the video, I was thinking that that has to make a comeback of some kind. "The Swastika Laundry Company"....... lol.

    • @rafflesxyz4800
      @rafflesxyz4800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@zonian1966Errrrrrr NO!

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sounds like a good name for US-Foreverwars Inc.

    • @libertyvilleguy2903
      @libertyvilleguy2903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Laugh! Great thought.

  • @oldgoat142
    @oldgoat142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2044

    "The Historically Challenged."
    That explains about 90% of the general population.

    • @ulflyng4072
      @ulflyng4072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      😂

    • @NationalistsRuinAmerica
      @NationalistsRuinAmerica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      The problem with Nazi Apologists isn't that they're historically challenged, even though they often overlook key details, the real problem is that they're just fine with Nazis in general

    • @otofoto
      @otofoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Felton himself is historically challenged.

    • @seattlewa8500
      @seattlewa8500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@otofoto Your comments makes it appear that you are upset he doesn’t show Nazis in a good light. Get over it. They were animals.

    • @MomentsInTrading
      @MomentsInTrading 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@otofotoUmmm, Have you looked up his credentials?

  • @gonetimeless
    @gonetimeless 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Excellent video. Well researched and presented.

  • @nygarmik
    @nygarmik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Opening sequence is from the parade of Defence Force's flag day, 4th June 2022, in Helsinki. I participated on that day in the volunteer organizations' flag section. Very memorable, to march in front of thousands spectators.

  • @Lemlem7682
    @Lemlem7682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2488

    We Ethiopians have the swastika in lalibela Church. I do not know how it got there, but this church was built around 1118 AD.

    • @user-hg4db5rb9w
      @user-hg4db5rb9w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It got there bc it was a religious symbol far before Hitler turned it into a symbol of hate

    • @Conradlovesjoy
      @Conradlovesjoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

      Someone put it there. Mystery solved.

    • @user-hg4db5rb9w
      @user-hg4db5rb9w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +366

      It got there bc it was a religious symbol before it was turned into one of hate

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Time-travelling Nazis, obviously. What other rational explanation could there possibly be?

    • @Tarik360
      @Tarik360 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

      Before the painter it was either a symbol for luck, movement or the sun. Builder probably heard about it and thought it would look real nice on a church.

  • @welchee451
    @welchee451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1973

    “The Historically Challenged”😂 that’s a polite way of putting it.

    • @petermuise4927
      @petermuise4927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I resemble that remark!

    • @dsxa918
      @dsxa918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I'm waiting for the 'ancient precedent' to reclaim it

    • @ulysses4441
      @ulysses4441 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The fact I was looking it up hours ago made me come here and save myself the “challenge”

    • @GunRunner3
      @GunRunner3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Swastika will be back, as will be the German desire to reclaim the lands stolen from it after WWII. I don't know how many generations it will take, and at 79 I won't live to see it, but deep in the German soul, it knows what it rightfully owns. It still needs living space.

    • @fila6243
      @fila6243 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      all western nations is what he meant 😂

  • @ConnorFabiano
    @ConnorFabiano 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One of your most informative videos and that’s saying a lot. Thank you for all your awesome content.

  • @chrisallaire4957
    @chrisallaire4957 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As is always the case, Mr. Felton's historical videos are extremely well researched and much appreciated.

  • @raven_1133
    @raven_1133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3051

    “Failed Austrian Painter” “The Historically Challenged” I have never heard better phrases in a Mark Felton video lol 😂

    • @grandmaster510
      @grandmaster510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      It was unexpected 😂

    • @olengagallardo8551
      @olengagallardo8551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Prancing around in planes festooned with swastikas of whatever colour😊

    • @zlatas359
      @zlatas359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Worst one is "Unemplyed Austrian Painter" this is how Paul Von Hindenburg called Adolf

    • @mgway4661
      @mgway4661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@zlatas359”that moody little corporal”

    • @andrewhart6377
      @andrewhart6377 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@zlatas359 I wonder if anyone has actually viewed his art works.

  • @GermanConquistador08
    @GermanConquistador08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +508

    "Education, not an eraser" - Words to Live by!

    • @burbanpoison2494
      @burbanpoison2494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, education! Like when we went to school and the teacher taught us to rip the eraser off the end of each pencil and throw it in the trash instead of teaching us what it was for.

    • @raedwulf61
      @raedwulf61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Someone should teach that to the American wokesters.

    • @stefannicholson852
      @stefannicholson852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's a quote I will remember.

    • @Sam_Guevenne
      @Sam_Guevenne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn't help that they sorta sided with Germany and now a days struggle with nazis in their governent.

    • @Stargazzer811
      @Stargazzer811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raedwulf61 They'll just call you anti-woke/racist/sexist and try to smother you in buzzwords before trying to get you cancelled on social media.

  • @funeralhall2573
    @funeralhall2573 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Excellent! Video smart Man!
    Your videos are very smart,
    I enjoy learning
    From your excellent videos!!!😊😊😊

  • @lorrycamill6502
    @lorrycamill6502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you Mark for the history to remind us

  • @sparkspl
    @sparkspl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

    'The historically challenged', what a banger of a phrase, I am stealing it, thanks Dr. Felton:D

    • @markjustus
      @markjustus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wonderfull remark by you and by Mark!

    • @evanmurphy2473
      @evanmurphy2473 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that why he's talking so slow?

    • @frankkovacs6214
      @frankkovacs6214 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@evanmurphy2473 He's talking at what used to be called "lecture speed" and I wish more TH-cam influencers would pick it up. Some are SO FAST you can't follow them; others are so slow they put you to sleep. Felton has it just right: Lecture speed was designed so students could take notes during a lecture.

    • @shaunely63
      @shaunely63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ignorance is supposed to be bliss. I guess that doesn't apply in all cases🤔

    • @player_unknown963
      @player_unknown963 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everyone's all for history until you mention AZOV

  • @jamesgiordano6772
    @jamesgiordano6772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +402

    ‘Education, not erasers ‘ shall be my motto and mantra henceforth. Bravo Prof Felton for yet another superb production!

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You should take care because there is a large difference between education and exaltation. We remember the Nazi party from our historical records, not by continuing to parade their symbols in public. That's what it means to leave something in the past - maintain the record for the purposes of education, but not to exalt their values and symbols.
      And you should be concerned about people who would want you to confuse education and exaltation.

    • @ESPLTD322
      @ESPLTD322 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This comment is the most British thing I’ve read in a decade haha you’re right though

    • @CherryBlossomOhka
      @CherryBlossomOhka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm stealing this......

    • @PAGoTribe1963
      @PAGoTribe1963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monsieurdorgat6864 Agreed. If we truly want to make "never again" a permanent state, we have to remember what the Nazi swastika stood for and teach others about it as well.

    • @s1ubbe
      @s1ubbe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@monsieurdorgat6864 You seem to be confusing education yourself. Surely as an educated fellow you know the difference and thus dont need to erase anything

  • @geejaybee1970
    @geejaybee1970 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I admire the way that Mark Felton maintains his objectivity and academic discipline despite his obvious underlying disdain for the subjects of many of his video presentations.

  • @bobsmith2637
    @bobsmith2637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +709

    You mentioned the Canadian town of Swastika, Ontario, which got its name in the early 1900s. During the Second World War there was an attempt to rename it 'Winston', similar to how the city of Berlin, Ontario had been permanently renamed 'Kitchener' during the First World War. The town's residents told the Provincial authorities "to hell with Hitler, we came up with our name first". They kept their old name.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      No worries now, they give standing ovations to Nazis in parliament haha

    • @petergomes8788
      @petergomes8788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      There was a railway station between Ontario and Quebec in this city. I felt very uneasy and a little scarred as a student in the train. Even though I was familiar with the original symbol in Bangladesh.

    • @sorinankitt
      @sorinankitt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And what do the current residents say 😂

    • @otofoto
      @otofoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@jr2904They didn’t. Being in German army doesn’t mean you are Nazi. Fighting against USSR doesn’t make you Nazi either.

    • @christopher9727
      @christopher9727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today
      Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today
      Romans 6:23
      For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
      Come to Jesus Christ today
      Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
      Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
      Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
      Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
      John 3:16-21
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
      Mark 1.15
      15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
      2 Peter 3:9
      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
      Hebrews 11:6
      6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
      Jesus

  • @markbanash921
    @markbanash921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +714

    Back in the 1970s here in the United States there was a television series called "Kolchak: The Night Stalker". It was a horror series focusing on supernatural occurrences in the city of Chicago. In the episode "Horror In The Heights" a Jewish neighborhood suddenly finds itself festooned with swastikas. Upon investigation, Kolchak discovers an Indian gentleman who has been hunting a mythological creature that devours humans and the swastikas are their cultural holy symbols designed to keep the creature away.

    • @FUBBA
      @FUBBA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They will find a way to make it seems antisemetic

    • @markbanash921
      @markbanash921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      By the way the writer of that episode was a gentleman named Jimmy Sangster, a British screenwriter and director who was particularly famous for his work on Hammer Horror films.

    • @cohort075
      @cohort075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      We had the Night Stalker on Australian tv, and as a young lad it would scare the pants off me sometimes.
      I remember that episode.

    • @aaronblaylock2092
      @aaronblaylock2092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I remember that show, as a boy it was a favorite of mine! My favorite episode was when he had to hunt down a monster that took the form of someone you loved and trusted to get to you.

    • @brick6347
      @brick6347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      A great show, that inspired the x-files. In fact Darren McGavin (Kolchak) played Arthur Dales, the FBI agent who started the x-files! I'm not sure if you younger people reading this are aware of it? If not, check it out, you won't regret it... Man I'm getting old! But watch it!

  • @okiefred8399
    @okiefred8399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Education is the operative word . Needed more now than ever.

  • @royborgen
    @royborgen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting, thanks for this

  • @KaptainObvious
    @KaptainObvious 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1571

    The Swastika symbol was abundant on many Navajo Indian blankets in the United States 1800's - 1920's, thanks for sharing true history.

    • @abyssstrider2547
      @abyssstrider2547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This symbol can be found in cave paintings tens of thousands of years old all across the world. To connect such a symbol with 20th century Nazism is absolutely moronic.

    • @fredkitmakerb9479
      @fredkitmakerb9479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Highway road signs in the states of New Mexico and Arizona features the swastika until Hitler came to power. And do not look closely at the symbol of the WW1 American Lafayette Escadrille. Or the crown molding of a synagogue in Boston, NYC, or Chicago (I do not recall where it is at).
      Educate, not erase. People who do not understand history are condemned to repeat it.

    • @AckzaTV
      @AckzaTV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Those Navajo ALSO have a non nazi swastika military emblem and is the only American military uniform swastika BESIDES the actual Nuremberg swastika with a balance scale 卐⚖️ like that representing the nazis getting justice in court after the war...but native Americans also had one those are the two American swastikas on the uniform

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Also, people forget that the "raised arm" salute was used for years by Olympic Athletes among others (I've heard it goes back to at least the Roman era). The Nazis stole it for their disgusting propaganda.

    • @user-dl6nv9uv9q
      @user-dl6nv9uv9q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      ​@@AckzaTV nice to see that some people know something about my Native American AKA American Indian people's history . Far too often people in America forget their are OTHER minority groups in America besides black people those of us from the OTHER groups rarely see any recognition of our culture .

  • @SimonB.
    @SimonB. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1084

    Okay the Swastika Laundry Company had me laughing 😆

    • @OscarOSullivan
      @OscarOSullivan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      My parents and grandparents remember the Swastika Laundry

    • @liamo8932
      @liamo8932 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ​@@OscarOSullivanI don't think I will forget it now 😂

    • @MrQwertyman111
      @MrQwertyman111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      The designe of the truck was pretty catchy, great sense of marketing to whoever came up with it 😛

    • @philodendron6
      @philodendron6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Remember the unusual logo as a child, no to mention the three wheeled vehicles.

    • @nakitaluckysibih5581
      @nakitaluckysibih5581 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      And the van with a red color background💀

  • @FinnisJaeger
    @FinnisJaeger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good info!

  • @eoinogeibheannaigh9183
    @eoinogeibheannaigh9183 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Excellent, thank you Mr. Felton. I also loved the statement "The historically challenged".

  • @capolaya
    @capolaya 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1843

    "Education and not erasers would seem to be the requirement today" VERY well said.

    • @stm22
      @stm22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      totally agree, education not prohibition.

    • @allegrajane7205
      @allegrajane7205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yes. There is so much ignorance afoot.

    • @Chobittsu
      @Chobittsu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I dunno.... that's a pretty big ask of society...

    • @frankcoala5890
      @frankcoala5890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Education poses a danger to our democracy.

    • @christianlorentz9981
      @christianlorentz9981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      This quote should be posted in every history class

  • @hansdampf5131
    @hansdampf5131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +607

    We visited Finland back in the 90‘s and came along a soldiers monument bearing a swastika.
    As Germans, we were a little bit „confused“ but some locals explained the background. Very interesting indeed.

    • @fragdoch-nicht1290
      @fragdoch-nicht1290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      "Keiner sagt ihnen das wir verloren haben!"

    • @whatsup5914
      @whatsup5914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@Nazi_in_Nagalandayooooooooo

    • @norwacheese4566
      @norwacheese4566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      United States of Germany..LOL!!! US.Colony..!!

    • @nektarios5291
      @nektarios5291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      As Germans it shouldnt have been that confusing seeing as you fought together exterminating Russians in the 40s

    • @Azurethewolf168
      @Azurethewolf168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@norwacheese4566Norway is too

  • @janebennett8097
    @janebennett8097 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for this account. It is. vey informative and. should help many to understand the symbol. .

  • @TradShowTom
    @TradShowTom หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All too many aren't interested in being educated about history but find it easier to erase it thereby refusing to learn from it which, inevitably, leads to repeating it.

  • @timo5005
    @timo5005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +992

    "The historically challenged" what a perfect phrase.
    And I agree, "education and not erases" are needed, especially concerning history. Especially here in Germany

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Otherwise, history will repeat itself.

    • @SandraOrtmann1976
      @SandraOrtmann1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Indeed. Because if you try to erase it and stop talking about the topic - it might be repeated. In Germany or elsewhere. That is the real danger.

    • @rhetorical1488
      @rhetorical1488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@57thorns history is repeating itself as we type

    • @wolfgangemmerich7552
      @wolfgangemmerich7552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@57thorns Like the british ww1 & ww2 Lend lease to russia ?

    • @blairl6304
      @blairl6304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mustache man from Austria has been proven 100% correct. The wrong side won, the west has been infiltrated and slowly destroyed by Bolsheviks and Marxists.
      Take pride in the fact the Austrian painter tried to stop it.

  • @bizmarck731
    @bizmarck731 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +843

    “Even I wore the swastika”…. Ladies and gentlemen, we got em! 😂

    • @georgerobartes2008
      @georgerobartes2008 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      My son didn't, he was in the 1st Colchester Air Scouts .......

    • @GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep
      @GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      This is the FBI you are surrounded

    • @yepiratesworkshop7997
      @yepiratesworkshop7997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only that were true. It seems I run into neo-Nazi creeps all the time these days. They really are nothing compared to the real Nazis I met while serving in Germany in the 1970's. There were still a lot of them quite alive back then. Some still clung to their Nazi beliefs, but most of them had wised up to the fact that Hitler and his gangsters had propagandized and gas-lighted them and the rest of their country -- setting the stage for it to be blasted to ruins. That's why it saddens me to see so many falling for the same fascist strongman lies and propaganda schemes here.@@GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep

    • @edwinalexis593
      @edwinalexis593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@georgerobartes2008during the 80's?

    • @GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep
      @GeorgeTyrrell-qm2ep 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @edwinalexis593 bro where have you been for the last 140 years the FBI was formed in 1908

  • @ShikamaruXT
    @ShikamaruXT หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you for sharing this piece of history with us.

  • @danmarijanovic2099
    @danmarijanovic2099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I very much appreciate the decidedly NON conspiratorial nature of your journey through history. This kind of stuff can easily be taken in that direction. Fascinating stuff - thanks!

  • @josephstevens9888
    @josephstevens9888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +366

    "education, and not erasers should be the requirement today"... well said, well said.

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      erasure*

    • @kneegerman2076
      @kneegerman2076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brainwashing is not educating anyone.

    • @andy4849
      @andy4849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tell that to the people who rip down rainbow flags. Then we have a deal

    • @SabbaticusRex
      @SabbaticusRex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Education is about sharing truth with others -- not sharing lies , 'my truth' , harmful dogma and nonsense .
      Lousy example , in my opinion . @@andy4849

    • @SabbaticusRex
      @SabbaticusRex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@andy4849 There is a difference between Education and Indoctrination is my point .

  • @FUL0H8
    @FUL0H8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +655

    The “Historically Challenged” the noble way of saying “Bless their heart”

    • @saucelessbones5872
      @saucelessbones5872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    • @Lonovavir
      @Lonovavir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The British way in fact.

    • @wwiiinplastic4712
      @wwiiinplastic4712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not everyone is from the South, so they need their own saying.

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, for such a high quality channel, I think phrases like that can be interpreted as a putdown.

    • @wwiiinplastic4712
      @wwiiinplastic4712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JohnnyAngel8 Bless your heart.

  • @estothakill
    @estothakill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i Love Mark`s videos, i always learn something new!

  • @gymbo230970
    @gymbo230970 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pre WW2 we had three hockey teams that used the swastika Fernie, Edmonton and Windsor.

  • @userk4175
    @userk4175 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a good video.

  • @justa.american8303
    @justa.american8303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +611

    Mark needs to be awarded "The Golden Shovel" for his work in "digging up" historical hidden facts.

    • @camaradacomissario9641
      @camaradacomissario9641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Best comment here!

    • @PanzerkomandantFencer
      @PanzerkomandantFencer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      dunno if thats the joke here but that award is already reserved for another category~

    • @bagoistvan3182
      @bagoistvan3182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺😅😅😅

    • @Ape-moen
      @Ape-moen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ukraino use swastika

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zonian1966 The Ukrainian Navy is no more.

  • @ricmeister73
    @ricmeister73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +618

    "history education and not erasers" . Right on Mr. Felton.

    • @PaulFellows3430
      @PaulFellows3430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Bang on. They need him in the cities of Bristol and Oxford.

    • @brusselssprouts560
      @brusselssprouts560 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And a good point about the USAF white star. Soviet Union had a red star.

    • @janospataky
      @janospataky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree

    • @kneegerman2076
      @kneegerman2076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nuh it is history erasion. And replaced with propaganda

    • @multipl3
      @multipl3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulFellows3430but that’s erasing history no one should be proud of

  • @himanshusirohi2403
    @himanshusirohi2403 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What Hitler used was Hakenkruz related mostly to Christianity. To shift the blame from Christianity, West changed the name to Swastika, a Sanskrit word.

  • @michaeldeangelo4374
    @michaeldeangelo4374 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew about the the history coming from Asia, but not everything else.. I always learn from your clips. Thank you!

    • @E.G.-ee7nt
      @E.G.-ee7nt 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Felton failed to tell you that it originated in Europe. The earliest example in the archaeological record is from Ukraine (Mezine) carved into mammoth ivory and carbon-dated to 12,000 years old. Just as 'modern' Europeans sailed around the globe in their great sailing ships (the high tech of the day), spreading Western civilization wherever they went, early Europeans traveled far afield spreading their culture, technology, and symbols to other peoples.

    • @aAverageFan
      @aAverageFan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@E.G.-ee7nt Ukraine didn't exist before 1991, it was part of Russia until then.

    • @E.G.-ee7nt
      @E.G.-ee7nt 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aAverageFan Europeans lived in the region that is now known as Ukraine and they were carving swastikas into mammoth tusks 12,000 years ago. It doesn't matter one jot whether the modern-day nation of Ukraine existed or not.

  • @dinnertimemishap
    @dinnertimemishap 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +496

    OMG Swastika laundry... "Let us be your final solution, for all things laundry"

    • @hilariousname6826
      @hilariousname6826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Yikes! (It does have a ring to it, though ... !)

    • @anomonyous
      @anomonyous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Lmao, I'm dead.

    • @glahaye
      @glahaye 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      "After we're done, everything is white and clean"

    • @alexmeanin8049
      @alexmeanin8049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Top one comment, no doubt 😅😅😅

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@glahaye"Only the purest whites will remain"

  • @dalemoss4684
    @dalemoss4684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +541

    "Education not erasure" that's the most sensible takeaway from this video. Thanks, Dr. Felton

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Swastika is the ONLY geopolitical accentuated symbolism that is NOT featured in the premier global historical antiquity of Africa and the scientific origins of mankind and civilization as we know of both today---it lends credence to the concept of "Indo-European" mythology and origin stories.....

    • @Your_real_dad
      @Your_real_dad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr dude

    • @2killnspray9
      @2killnspray9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We want Swatsika back.
      It's not a "Nazi cross". Nazi crosses are even oriented differently.

    • @tjallingdalheuvel126
      @tjallingdalheuvel126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Start in South East Asia with those not using it in their original meanings, but as nazi symbolism. Very extranging back when I visited Thailand as a western European and see nazi symbolism. Thought for a sec it must be Hindu or budhist, but it was not.

  • @mpeg2tom
    @mpeg2tom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Finnish Air Force academy flag also has a flower petal design similar to that of Saga Prefecture.

  • @marinhopaais426
    @marinhopaais426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your channel remains impressive.

  • @22grena
    @22grena 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

    This symbol was in use by Europe over 2,500 year ago. It is a revered symbol in Asia.

    • @ethanstewart9970
      @ethanstewart9970 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yes, that is literally what he says in the video.

    • @TheBelrick
      @TheBelrick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4000 years. the symbol of Ayrans. From far east asia to north america. We are being removed from history and the streets today

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      It's an ancient Aryan symbol, that's why the Nazis adopted it, they had the whole "we wuz Aryanz" shtick going on.

    • @burbanpoison2494
      @burbanpoison2494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And that's the first thing you learned about it, eh?

    • @edie9158
      @edie9158 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@DrewPicklesTheDarkain’t no way “we wuz Aryanz” 💀
      Imagine being an SS administrative officer receiving updates on Himmler ordering SS-attached surveyors to look for pots and mud huts while Hitler was doing lines in the war room.

  • @tongobongo7061
    @tongobongo7061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +508

    The Ontario government renamed the town of Swastika to "Winston" but locals ripped the signs down. In British Columbia there was also a junior hockey team once called the Fernie Swastikas.

    • @siscott6066
      @siscott6066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      Well done by the citizens of Swastika by standing up to authority, I have always believed in history with warts and all "the good and the bad" you have to learn about your mistakes and Nazis Germany is probably the biggest to learn from, but to change a name is a definite no.... To remove a religious emblem from a flag in another country is definite no.

    • @tommeakin1732
      @tommeakin1732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      What a surreal timeline we live in lol. Just to be clear about what we're seeing here:
      1) Nazis adopt a symbol. It's not 100% clear why, but it seems they likely went for it as it's a very old symbol in Europe (earliest form of that symbol found in Vinca culture, roughly 5400-4500 BC) and is common on earlier Germanic goods; and all that ties into their ideas around "aryans" (basically just means "indo-european" in modern terms).
      2) English translators who were early to the "let's translate Nazi texts" game made the highly questionable call to translate "hakenkreuz", which is literally "hooked cross", to "swastika" (the hindu symbol) despite the fact that the only possible link relevant to Nazi ideology is that the Hindu swastika *might* come from indo-european migrations (unlikely because it's like 6000 years ago; but it's not impossible), but the Nazis don't have a claim to the past lol.
      3) Some English speakers go around targeting a word that has no actual link to the evil folk they hate; all because an English translator translated a word wrong. What a meme.

    • @americaisacontinent.
      @americaisacontinent. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      In Edmonton, they removed the name from Edmonton Eskimos to Edmonton Elks, because they think its offensive.. What is going on in Canada??

    • @arnbo88
      @arnbo88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Edmonton Eskimos also used to be an ice hockey team. Look up Eddie Shore.@@americaisacontinent.

    • @imdeplorable2241
      @imdeplorable2241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@americaisacontinent.Socialism. Trudeau & Co. are reforming Canada into a Socialist Democracy, like Sweden. There are some in the U.S. that are trying to do the same.
      Stay strong. Refuse it and resist it. F**k the Left.

  • @vaadaakoo8812
    @vaadaakoo8812 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fun fact: during the war there was a campain to get new aeroplanes for the airforce. The idea was for people to give their gold items to the campaing. For most people only gold item was their wedding ring. For those who gave away their wedding ring the campaing gave a iron ring to act as a new wedding ring. These iron rings had swasticas. They were used by many people until their/their spouses death.

  • @framemartgallery4619
    @framemartgallery4619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another most spectacular Felton production & narration

  • @GamerKahn
    @GamerKahn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1107

    I remember being in Malaysia, and as a Hindu, i had a chain with the hindu swastika.. There was a western student who went around calling me a racist. However asians didnt budge and thought she was nuts. Eventually one day she confronted me as a racist and said I should wear that symbol as it stands for hate. I had to educate her and tell her, our symbol doesn't stand for hatred. She still didnt want to listen to me. Most of the asian classmates also got behind me and told her, either accept it or STFU. thankfully she stopped once the university told her to drop it

    • @ColonelMetus
      @ColonelMetus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      I have several Swastika tattoos

    • @roundrock63
      @roundrock63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      My Hindu wife has swastika ear rings. People would look at me, being white, like I was a white supremest making her wear them.

    • @bretthess6376
      @bretthess6376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Good. Illigitumi non carborundum.

    • @corbysimpson9146
      @corbysimpson9146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      ​@@bretthess6376"Don't Let The Bastards Grind You Down."

    • @ColonelMetus
      @ColonelMetus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@roundrock63 I converted to Hinduism just for the Swastikas

  • @henrilindroos3029
    @henrilindroos3029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +616

    As a Finnish Defensive Force Reserve Second Liutenant and an avid follower of your channel, I applaud your always historically accurate episodes ⚔️🇫🇮

    • @danielmcgillis270
      @danielmcgillis270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sisu.

    • @bobhill3941
      @bobhill3941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I second that, I knew about the historical origins of the Swastika and the the Canadian trail named for it, but everything else was new to me and much appreciated.

    • @Aluttuh
      @Aluttuh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Watch europa the last battle

    • @nami-3
      @nami-3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ZeroIsMany Doesn't matter. In Finland it's not a symbol of nationalsozialists.

    • @edstar83
      @edstar83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The swastika is an ancient symbol of our Indo European ancestors. It wasnt just muh nazis who used it most of Europe used it for millennia even during WWII. Including USA and Australia.
      Up until the bolsheviks decimated the Russian Empire in 1917 murdering tens of millions of innocent civilians in Russia and Ukraine including the Russian Tzar and his entire family via barbaric cruelty and deliberate starvation, the Russians used the swastika on everything including their Bank notes.
      The banning of the swastika is just an attempt to hide our history by the corrupt winners of WWII. People are easier to control if they have no history or roots to connect to. *Change My Mind*

  • @samuelspace101
    @samuelspace101 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The swastika is actually so simple that it showed up a couple times in the Native tribes of North America and Ancient Japan

  • @evansnyder430
    @evansnyder430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pop in every time at the very least to hear this bomb ass intro and that beautiful voice.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +240

    Yep the 45th Infantry Division now they use the Thunderbird as their emblem.

    • @flyboymb
      @flyboymb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      There might have been friendly fire instances otherwise lol

    • @Lonovavir
      @Lonovavir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The division patch was sown onto the shoulder sleeve. The Thunderbird also looks cool, I own the patch.

    • @tulsaviolet
      @tulsaviolet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes a national Guard Unit from my Home state

    • @grapeshot
      @grapeshot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tulsaviolet Oklahoma

    • @mirrorblue100
      @mirrorblue100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The 45th landed at Sicily, Salerno and Anzio in the Italian campaign. In August '44 they were part of Operation Dragoon and landed in southern France - then clawed their way up and into Germany - liberating Dachau concentration camp at the war's end.

  • @generalgrievousgaming416
    @generalgrievousgaming416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    "Even i wore a swastika for my boy scout uniform"
    He got us in the first half

  • @seosamh.forbes
    @seosamh.forbes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    They got the same pass that Indian and Japanese people have: "We were using it before Hitler did."

    • @aAverageFan
      @aAverageFan หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Telling as Asian to stop using the Swastika is like telling a European to stop using the Cross

    • @seosamh.forbes
      @seosamh.forbes หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@aAverageFan Christianity started in the Middle East and it honestly should've stayed there.

    • @rajdeep4318
      @rajdeep4318 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Who are you to give asian a pass to use their symbols
      Please keep western propaganda to west only

    • @mi5iu491
      @mi5iu491 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      for crying out loud POLAND of all places had a swastika for one of their badges,,, POLAND. as long as its not a actual nazi flag it should be allowed. as long as its being used in the correct context

    • @winnon992
      @winnon992 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@seosamh.forbesmaybe that’s where you need to go. I won’t tell you where you are going!

  • @Valkanna.Nublet
    @Valkanna.Nublet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1643

    "Education not erasure" should be the motto of historians.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I absolutely agree.

    • @mikegraves6070
      @mikegraves6070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I’m in full agreement with you on that.

    • @Rumpleforeskin77
      @Rumpleforeskin77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Yeah but if that happens people will ask questions that many don't want answered ..like why ally with communists who invaded and enslaved Europe

    • @dannybird4996
      @dannybird4996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      @@Rumpleforeskin77If people can’t handle truth it’s their problem

    • @dustylover100
      @dustylover100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree, too.

  • @chazvrez1231
    @chazvrez1231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +246

    You had me at "failed Austrian painter"

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      None of these people probably ever actually look at his paintings. And if they do, they're told beforehand they are his and then they parrot opinions that don't actually review artistic merits.
      Many of his paintings are fine. Nothing I wouldn't hang on my wall.

    • @archiehitler5264
      @archiehitler5264 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Sadly, Felton is a gatekeeper and most of his information is incorrect.

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Aivottaja Well his Art career certainly failed, and his backup job failed so bad he did 'imself in. Proper failure in my book.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Joesolo13But not because he was a bad artist.

    • @jhnshep
      @jhnshep 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Joesolo13like many an artist lol Edit Bach's works were used as butcher's paper by his mother after he died.

  • @asjgreenknight
    @asjgreenknight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it appears in Heraldry it is called a Fyflot - although I doubt it will ever be used again.

  • @michaelhart7569
    @michaelhart7569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice piece of history, Mark.
    However, Chemists and Crystallographers, I still caution you to be careful about publishing images with D4h symmetry. :)
    edit: or is it C4v?

  • @thelastjohnwayne
    @thelastjohnwayne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    NOTE """Education and not Erasers"" is what we need. ""Education and not Erasers"" maybe the greatest Dr Mark Felton quote of at time.

    • @danielmcgillis270
      @danielmcgillis270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who controls the present controls the future. Who controls the past controls the present.

    • @sylviamaresca8852
      @sylviamaresca8852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Somebody make that a bumper sticker.

    • @andresdelaguardia1536
      @andresdelaguardia1536 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s a shame that, erasers are way cheaper than education, and as a society, we default to erasers.

    • @svenerikjohansson8130
      @svenerikjohansson8130 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very well found words.

    • @landonedwards7504
      @landonedwards7504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I vote we ALL adopt the phrase "Education not erasers!" Thanks, Dr. Felton! You're a day late and a dollar short here in Richmond, VA. But the wisdom of this phrase needs to be promulgated everywhere.

  • @victoria383
    @victoria383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +545

    "Historically challenged" is a term that describes the current times. Astounding that all these people supporting the current thing are such experts in geopolitics

    • @willmartin7293
      @willmartin7293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It's not really "astounding" at all when you consider the state of geopolitics today.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      To quote a kinda not very great person:
      "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
      -Winston S. Churchill

    • @vercot7000
      @vercot7000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@theapexsurvivor9538 Bad argument. You should use the other quote that goes:
      "Democracy is the worst form of government, besides all the others"

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@vercot7000 are you stating that there's a Better argument against democracy than spending 5 minutes talking with the average voter? I've certainly yet to find one.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@vercot7000 also, probably worth noting, no-one here is arguing Democracy is bad (though most representative democracy and direct democracy systems are literal garbage and unfortunately make up the vast majority of implemented ones currently, and I will die on that particular hill).
      Rather, we're all saying that the current state of the average person is depressing in their ignorance of all the topics they're supposedly experts in (I'd rate myself as slightly above average, in that I am aware of how little I know, but still knowing enough to get a general idea of how miserable of a situation we're in and to not immediately jump to a stupid solution like communism or fascism [was a bit of a tankie growing up, then I realised how many flaws pretty much every form of socialism have and went hard right before realising the flaws on that side and ending up with a more pragmatic view, if not entirely sane/practical/personable position on most things]).

  • @user-ud1yr3gw8e
    @user-ud1yr3gw8e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mississippi State Capital has it on the tile floor in part of the building but it predated WW2.

  • @skinyhittingthecity
    @skinyhittingthecity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video

  • @livethefuture2492
    @livethefuture2492 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +555

    2:33 😂 idk why, but this image just cracked me up!
    "Swastika laundry co." Is just such a bizzarly funny idea i can't help myself...😅

    • @nightplumber1
      @nightplumber1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Monty Python esque

    • @smith1990
      @smith1990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      🤣🤣🤣 I was laughing at that photo. Just looks so funny 😂.

    • @marcuscroyle2605
      @marcuscroyle2605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@smith1990 It doesn't help that the van's red

    • @esawiik6646
      @esawiik6646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "We have this new laudry concept. Mostly used in Boncentration Bamps.
      "@@nightplumber1

    • @bhante1345
      @bhante1345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      White sheets, white supremacy etc. etc.

  • @ikkimi7745
    @ikkimi7745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +391

    2:30 that "swastika laundry" just cracked me up, it's like something straight out of Monty Python. Easily could have been part of that Mr. Hilter of Meinhead-sketch.
    I believe that version of swastika used in Finnish medals and such is known as "fylfot".

    • @johnreed7215
      @johnreed7215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aged like milk

    • @childofslaanesh1251
      @childofslaanesh1251 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      the red white and black color scheme is just *chefs kiss*

    • @on220
      @on220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      В знаке НАТО есть свастика

    • @ramdom_9
      @ramdom_9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's known as hakaristi. Been in use before nazis

    • @mariofantoni7218
      @mariofantoni7218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comunque dopo il passato sembra una presa per il culo fare sventolare una svastica...almeno che serva per il nome di in un gruppo punk/hardcore

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1982 I saw the Building with a name, Red Swastika Society on the door. It was in Malacca, Malaysia.

  • @user-mo1zl4kk6i
    @user-mo1zl4kk6i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is also used commonly in Southwestern American Native American Arts. And if you look at some of the older houses especially brick houses in the Southwest you were quite often see it worked into the brickwork

  • @thehelldoicallthis9241
    @thehelldoicallthis9241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +217

    Should also be mentioned that in Finland versions of the swastika have existed since the iron age. Originally they were more complex symbols that more resembled L shaped blocks, arrows or a looping ribbon making the swastika shape but around the 1700s the simplified shape became more popular. You can see both the ancient and newer ones occationally in Finnish art and architechture.

    • @skyworm8006
      @skyworm8006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Swastikas have existed in various styles all over Eurasia (and likely elsewhere), including Europe, for thousands and thousands of years. I don't think they were a newly popularised symbol at the time but rather a common motif for all time.

    • @safs3098
      @safs3098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was also used in Germany since the Iron age and probably before. Look up “Oldest image of Odin on Broch” and you’ll see the swastika infront of Odins face

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@skyworm8006yep, there are cave paintings and carvings from 10,000+ years ago with the swastika, and even carved talismans from 8,000 years ago which resemble frog-like swastikas. It's about as old a symbol as you can get without going pre-neolithic.

    • @ro--M
      @ro--M 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theapexsurvivor9538 That was a practical joke by Nostradamus on one of his trips through the time. ("I'll leave an evil Nazi symbol to the past for the future historians, ha ha, silly me")

    • @AllahCat7889
      @AllahCat7889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Tursaansydän

  • @johnjenniferohalloran7334
    @johnjenniferohalloran7334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    I’m Canadian. As a child living in the UK in the 1970’s and attending the American School in London, where I had a number of Jewish friends, I recall being as surprised as they were when we visited Roman ruins (outside London) and saw the swastika featured prominently in flooring mosaics. Later on, when I worked in Kenora, Ontario, I visited the Lake of the Woods Museum, and saw how the swastika symbol adorned an Ojibway native costume, which itself dated to the turn of the 1900’s, well before, of course, the use of the swastika by the Nazis.

    • @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
      @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s always fun to show how far that symbol goes back and just as interestingly how esoteric the movements were that end up making it the symbol of Germany, which ties back to early 1900s occultism. Mind you the same sorts of hidden groups are what lead to the US dollar bill to be the way it is today and why a lot of odd architectural choices weee made.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Previously conquered culture tends to absorb alot of the traits of their former occupiers.
      India is the blatant example.
      But Russia and the Mongolians are a notable example aswell.
      Possibly Israel and the Germans

    • @VeritasEtAequitas
      @VeritasEtAequitas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      By the NSDAP.

    • @kevindorland738
      @kevindorland738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zuni, Native American tribe, also used the swastika. Don't know the time frame.

    • @CaliMeatWagon
      @CaliMeatWagon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is a Byzantine temple in Israel that has swastikas in it's floor mosaic.

  • @le9038
    @le9038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where did you get the footage of the Finnish Air Force Academy march?

    • @jk8557
      @jk8557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably from TH-cam. Finland has military parades every year and they are also often filmed and uploaded to TH-cam by people who went to watch the parades.

  • @DeadBoySociety
    @DeadBoySociety 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It means the wagon wheel of time and seasons always turning and changing.

  • @Sharnoy1
    @Sharnoy1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +337

    Huge respect from Finland for making this video Dr. Felton! Kiitos!

    • @bugsymalone-ty5fj
      @bugsymalone-ty5fj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Perkele

    • @user-ts7fl9yg9y
      @user-ts7fl9yg9y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Koko video käytettiin Suomen mainitsemiseen niin kai sit viikon pämppä torille

    • @_setbes
      @_setbes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      jos elät suomes, oot onnelinen

    • @numbdigger9552
      @numbdigger9552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_setbes vitut

  • @crazysithslave
    @crazysithslave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +531

    Its amazing how much power a simple symbol can have and inspire. I think hiding it away, banning it, defacing it and trying to 'delete' it from history only makes it more powerful

    • @lollllolll.
      @lollllolll. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, because people are trying to ban it, a lot of edgy teenagers draw it, and once these teenagers get backlash, they wonder WHY it's so dangerous 7 decades later.
      And so they go to alt-right places, where they get groomed into political extremism, and this time they'll draw the swastika because they *actually* support it
      I think schools should depict the symbol the same way we depict the Christian cross or the muslim crescent.
      "You see, class, this is the Buddhist symbol, it means good fortune in many cultures, and many replicated it"
      It's not hard

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      No wonder the 3rd Brigade Azov have been so brazen since the 2013-14 coup...

    • @willbaker8505
      @willbaker8505 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      More powerful every day

    • @BoCaine
      @BoCaine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@joebenson528 Russia is entitled to Ukraine then?

    • @winterbliss4459
      @winterbliss4459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@BoCainethere’s always one bot who tries to make it all about ukraine

  • @skiltz124
    @skiltz124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The swastika appears on Greek pottery throughout the Cycladic and all later periods. It appears all over Navajo pottery as well.

  • @lassisaarimaa6968
    @lassisaarimaa6968 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    similar thing is still happening with finnish armor museum, some are saying that the tanks must be rid of swastikas, they must really not care about history.

  • @adamtier3263
    @adamtier3263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +305

    We now live in the era of the "Historically Challenged" as Mark brilliantly put it !

    • @stevenmatthys2886
      @stevenmatthys2886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Certain members of society nowadays are indeed 'challenged' in many ways!!

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mark himself is historically challenged sometimes.

    • @adamtier3263
      @adamtier3263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU how so?

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamtier3263 sometimes he just pushes obvious myths or disproven narratives that had nothing to do with history or reality and all to do with post war propaganda.

  • @robertdraper5782
    @robertdraper5782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    As youngster in the 60's and early 70's I often spent my pocket money on Airfix model kits, one I recall was a Bristol Beaufighter, it came with 1940's Finnish decals which were blue Swastikas' the instructions explained the use of the Swastikar by the Finns so when the video started I guessed it was the Finnish Airforce, it's funny how snippets of history picked up from unexpected places decades ago can stick in your memory.

    • @kallekas8551
      @kallekas8551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah… actually Bristol Blenheim…I had that model too. No Beaufighters on FAF inventory.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      My brother had a couple of MEs - same era - and the decals came with a little note with them as well, from memory explaining that they'd nicked the symbol from elsewhere being mentioned in there somewhere. You're right, I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it.

    • @kurolotus4851
      @kurolotus4851 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A Finn here.✋️ I remember that some years ago a swedish airplane enthusiast got fired from his job (teacher if I remember correctly) after posting images of WWII warplane, a finnish warplane to be exact, with swastikas on it, to Facebook. At least that was what reported at the time by finnish press. Also in 2013, one of swedish newspapers made headlines with story about "finnish swastika-shaped pastries" by which they referred to our christmas time pastry called "joulutorttu". Rather than swastika-shaped, joulutorttus are pin wheel -shaped pastries which have traditionally plum jam in middle of pastry. But after that news headline, it became a short-time trend among the youth to "give those swedish reporters what they want". ie. I had to eat/ receive pictures of joulutorttus which were "differently shaped to match up with the ideals of that swedish reporter".

    • @kallekas8551
      @kallekas8551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kurolotus4851 A Finnish Australian here. LMAO!🤣 🤣That’s awesome! What a fantastic story! Give those “Hurris “ what they want! Thanks for sharing. Terkut Kallelta Sydneystä.🇫🇮🇦🇺

    • @kallekas8551
      @kallekas8551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kurolotus4851 So Finnish! We are very stubborn…I refuse to travel for work ie conventions etc. I’m an engineer not a salesperson for the company. I don’t want to go to Vegas when I prefer to hang out with my dog, my Car and PlayStation.🤣🤪👍

  • @jamesjohno1180
    @jamesjohno1180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Education and not erasures” this is perfectly said

  • @SoulsGuns
    @SoulsGuns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This entire thing seems extremely interesting to me

  • @BAstudios5
    @BAstudios5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +358

    When I was going to school as a child in japan, the Bhuddist temples are marked on maps with that symbol. The shinto shrines on the map are indicated withe a torii symbol, the entrence gates on at the shrines.

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The clockwise symbol is not from the same origin as the German WW2 counterclockwise symbol.
      But I also have also wondered why the hands on the clock do righty tighty instead of lefty loosey.

    • @Peter14523
      @Peter14523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Quite right considered lucky symbol.

    • @wictoriaolofsson2714
      @wictoriaolofsson2714 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly!

    • @jamesclark6104
      @jamesclark6104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Peter14523 It wasn't lucky for Adolf.

    • @lorrycamill6502
      @lorrycamill6502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes I saw that and did mention it once don’t forget Japan we’re allies with the devils 👿😂

  • @rufuslynks8175
    @rufuslynks8175 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    "Hisotrically challenged" made me smile. You have coined a term I truly hope will catch on, and, maybe, will foster some individual effort for study.
    As always, well done. Thank you.

    • @apostolodipadova2420
      @apostolodipadova2420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Felton did make misinformation in this video,the fairy tale of hitler stealing the swastika from some far oriental origin is completely false, and it's been pushed by this channel, too. The swastika also known as hackenkreuz finds origins in the germanic nordic pagan history. The finns have a form of swastika aswell called viking sun cross. And the swastika was adopted by far right nationalist organisations such as the thule society wich controlled the freikorps after WWI. Hitler was also part of that organisation before creating the NSDAP. The symbol was also used by The Order of the New Templars , a proto-fascist secret society in Germany founded by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels as afar as 1900.

  • @johnray5466
    @johnray5466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Historically challenged" I'm going to use that one

  • @StarshipTrooper4231
    @StarshipTrooper4231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are european forms of this symbol too. Some sun crosses (carved 8-11 000 years ago) are not a complete circle, but I cut off before lines in the circle. So it looks like a "swastika" but is more rounded. We have many different sun crosses around Europe that have similarity to the eastern swastika, and the people living then probably never met eachother during that time.

  • @emirvmendoza
    @emirvmendoza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +550

    0:44 "Failed Austrian painter" are words I never expected Dr. Mark Felton to say

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I prefer to call him a 'mediocre Austrian painter', because anything else makes his art seem vastly more interesting than it actually is.

    • @kneegerman2076
      @kneegerman2076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      It just shows how biased and untrustworthy Mark is. He knows really well why "painter" was elected and how much he did for his people, yet he cater to the unfunny joke for ignorant

    • @TheHelloImTom
      @TheHelloImTom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      id pay you good money to attempt a recreation of his art lmao you couldnt@@jic1

    • @hb9145
      @hb9145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I wouldn't say failed. His paintings are after all highly collectible.

    • @hb9145
      @hb9145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@kneegerman2076 I have noticed the same.

  • @inhocsignovinces1081
    @inhocsignovinces1081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Native Americans used the swastika as well. A swastika shape is a symbol in the culture of the Guna people of Guna Yala, Panama. In Guna tradition it symbolises the octopus that created the world, its tentacles pointing to the four cardinal points.

    • @Dustin_Bins
      @Dustin_Bins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, thank you for this interesting info!

    • @through-faith-alone
      @through-faith-alone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is a truly ancient symbol

    • @cenccenc946
      @cenccenc946 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have seen them northern plains bead work to Guatemalan textiles. They are actually pretty common. You typically don't see them in contemporary work, but pre-wwll they were often sumbols of the 4 directions, but all wirl winds, chaose, natural forces. Obviously, depends on the culture. Either way, it was probably common around the World, simply because it is easy to draw or paint. Like crosses are even more common, because they are easy to draw, but has nothing to do with Christianity in most cases.

  • @gunner9010
    @gunner9010 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Historically challenged" I laughed so hard. Sad but true. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @hyp3r459
    @hyp3r459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Utti Jaeger regiment also still have a swastika on their flag. It's rounded, but still a swastika.

  • @SamPanamaOfficial
    @SamPanamaOfficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +365

    Native Americans used it as well. My Great-Grandfather attended Chilocco Indian Agricultural School in the 30's, and his year book is decorated in them. Their football team at the time had them on their jerseys.

    • @cannabislife1688
      @cannabislife1688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Germany did not use the Swastika from India, they created an entire other symbol called the “ Hakenkreuz “ but the Americans are so uneducated they use the wrong terminology.

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It's a symbol with a positive energy, usually means stuff like luck, prosperity, peace and so on and similar meaning it had for the NSDAP, then those who write our history books turned it into something evil, it wasn't AH who did that, they just just want us to think that.

    • @radovankral5524
      @radovankral5524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One Lafayette Escadrille pilot had it on his aircraft with a native Indian head painted too. Swastikas were in fact not an uncommon sight on planes during World War 1, even some Jewish pilots had them painted on their aircraft. Although shocking nowadays, it was a symbol of luck for them.

    • @2killnspray9
      @2killnspray9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      We want Swatsika back.
      It's not a "Nazi cross". Nazi crosses are even oriented differently.

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2killnspray9 Its a powerful symbolism that united a whole nation that went thru quite an awful crisis. The puppet masters now will avoid any of such huge crises to emerge again, if you throw the frog into an already boiling water it will jump out, if you boil it slowly with the frog already in it however.. Thats why the symbol will never see any official support again from these people who run things, they know its meaning and if people realized what it actually meant and they united again, it would spell doom for those power structures.

  • @stephenle-surf9893
    @stephenle-surf9893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    How do you manage to find such diverse and fascinating stories and so frequently! Thank you Dr Felton.

    • @jason-hy8ci
      @jason-hy8ci 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He tries not to watch mainstream media.
      Just a wild guess. 🕳

    • @thelordofcringe
      @thelordofcringe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      While Dr. Felton does have some very niche research, as a historian I'd say that most stories like this are actually commonly known among historians. It's just that historians are rarely creative-types, so our knowledge is rarely spread to the mainstream.

    • @stephenle-surf9893
      @stephenle-surf9893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jason-hy8ci with you on that my friend.

  • @THEMOTOCROSSGRAVEYARD
    @THEMOTOCROSSGRAVEYARD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great info, ive been to the town of Swastika Ont> nice place in the North!

  • @thethricegreat
    @thethricegreat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Canada recently made some changes to swastika symbolism and law so that the Hindu religion can display their symbol. Also, I visited Thailand some 12 or so years ago, and waitresses greeted me with "Sawas tee ka. I didn't make the connection until very recently....

  • @phyrr2
    @phyrr2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    You never disappoint Mr Felton. Thank you for your deep research!

    • @jukkatakamaa7274
      @jukkatakamaa7274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I only blame him publishing in on our AF founding day ...happened 106 years ago.

    • @apostolodipadova2420
      @apostolodipadova2420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he did make misinformation in this video,the fairy tale of hitler stealing the swastika from some far oriental origin is completely false, and it's been pushed by this channel, too. The swastika also known as hackenkreuz finds origins in the germanic nordic pagan history. The finns have a form of swastika aswell called viking sun cross. And the swastika was adopted by far right nationalist organisations such as the thule society wich controlled the freikorps after WWI. Hitler was also part of that organisation before creating the NSDAP. The symbol was also used by The Order of the New Templars , a proto-fascist secret society in Germany founded by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels as afar as 1900.

    • @apostolodipadova2420
      @apostolodipadova2420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AustrianPaintersTopGuy felton is just a mr bean british propaganda puppet. he didnt even mention the swastika was used by the thule society...just blatant omission

    • @jukkatakamaa7274
      @jukkatakamaa7274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AustrianPaintersTopGuy ...yes we had it also in cover on our national saga Kalevala 100 years before nazis.

  • @jamesbednar8625
    @jamesbednar8625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    Good informative video!!! Was stationed in South Korea from 1992-1993 while in US Army. Spent a week in orientation and one of the things they tell you is that you WILL see swastikas in the country and why. They explained that it is a Buddhist symbol, and you WILL see on their buildings and gates to their buildings. Was wandering around the town I was stationed one day and just happened to notice them as was passing by a temple. My thought was: huh, looky there, learned something from orientation, and kept walking.

    • @apostolodipadova2420
      @apostolodipadova2420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he did make misinformation in this video,the fairy tale of hitler stealing the swastika from some far oriental origin is completely false, and it's been pushed by this channel, too. The swastika also known as hackenkreuz finds origins in the germanic nordic pagan history. The finns have a form of swastika aswell called viking sun cross. And the swastika was adopted by far right nationalist organisations such as the thule society wich controlled the freikorps after WWI. Hitler was also part of that organisation before creating the NSDAP. The symbol was also used by The Order of the New Templars , a proto-fascist secret society in Germany founded by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels as afar as 1900.

    • @simonschneider5913
      @simonschneider5913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      its so sad to see, as a german of quite liberal(in the classical sense) persuasion, that you could talk about things like that in the 90ies, but not anymore...all the while theres some wild revisionism going on at the same time. it makes me mad, almost...

    • @nicholasmorgan7609
      @nicholasmorgan7609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's more than just Buddhist, it existed in Hinduism prior to that and occured throughout many cultures

  • @manuelnegron4201
    @manuelnegron4201 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some photos you show are with the sauvastika , that turns to lef , oposite to svastika that turn to right

  • @user-np8nr5uw3r
    @user-np8nr5uw3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where was the photo taken at 3:50?

  • @RemnantCult
    @RemnantCult 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    That connotation and perversion of such a symbol shouldn't be forgotten, but I wonder if reclaiming the symbol back to its older meanings would be more dutiful than simply getting rid of it. This is something that will be argue for many years to come.

    • @aAverageFan
      @aAverageFan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It should be reclaimed because it is still a sacred for half the world

    • @tomppeli.
      @tomppeli. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aAverageFan I think that the atrocities associated with it in Europe shouldn't be forgotten either.
      But I don't know if the two can co-exist in a healthy manner in an environment full of the "historically challenged."
      I'd like for the symbol to return to its pre-war innocence, but I don't think that'll ever happen.
      History shouldn't be forgotten, lest we repeat it.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@aAverageFanand it should probably still be treated with reverence by the rest, given that it was revered by most of the globe for 10,000+ years before one asshole proclaimed it was his alone (imagine if we tried to ban the crucifix because it was used by a few zealots, or the 6 pointed star and the crescent because of the current massacre. The outcry would be immense.)

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Question is how would you reclaim it. You'd have to educate everybody first. And even then people will be torn, hindering the process.