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#Synology #NAS - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Photo Station and Moments are being replaced by Synology Photos with DSM 7, so probably not the best time to be talking about it xD Then again, Synology has said that there will be a migration path, so not really a problem.
Yes i was about to mentioned that as well
Yes, its beter to wait DSM 7.0 which is soon.
Thank God!
Then again, DSM 7 has been in the works since before the Thirty Years' War. I'm not holding my breath at this point.
Yes, I came to make sure someone mentioned this. Bad timing for this video.
I may be wrong but photo station and moments are replaced in dsm7. Also you want to be frustrated accidently merge two people together. You can't fix that or undo. I don't use the standard synology file tree and work out of a single folder, pretty difficult if not impossible to use your moments pointed at that directory.
Great vid, be nice if there were something for TrueNAS like that.
Oh there is, nextcloud (less easier to configure though).
Moved over to this after google's announcement, I'm happy with it
Great Video! I’m glad you’re addressing more Synology topics. Keep them coming.
This is exactly what I did 6 months ago. Downloaded 50 GB of videos and photos from Google, moved them to Photo Station, and sync my devices with Moments. No regrets.
I take a photo, it uploads to my NextCloud... I like that.
I’ve had Synology for years and never looked at this. Thx.
Same here. Was watching the live stream Thursday and he mentioned it and I set it up immediately.
The issue is if you delete a photo in moments / photo station apps, it does not delete on iOS devices automatically (Google Photos does)
This will change to Synology Photos with DSM 7, and it could be interesting to update to DSM 7 Beta bevor starting with your new Photo Hosting project.
A Key point for this is it does not include photos taken with pixel phones or even old ones from nexus phones they still don't count towards your storage limit and are free. Google actually answered my angry email about the fact they advertise free highest quality storage for photos taken with pixel phones and told me nothing will change with pixel photos. Just an FYI
Synology’s incoming Disk Station Manager 7, Moments will be deprecated in favor of Synology Photos. So if you plan to migrate your Google Photos to Synology, it’s best to hold off until DSM7. Having a cloud backup is critical for not just photos and home videos, so nothing is wrong with paying Google or some vendor for this service. Alternatively, you can put in some work and back up to the “cloud” which is another NAS located at someone’s else home.
I just got to Google One and used Family Share it works better than anything out there and depending upon your plan pretty cheap.
We also have everything backed up via a home NAS, and while it backs things up it (most of the time) pretty much sucks otherwise. Also nothing that's Synology can produce is a safe as anything Google can produce. If your Synology is open to outside your network you're kidding yourself if you think it's as secure as Google.
@@DJaquithFL You can always trade privacy for safety. It's just not everybody's cup of tea. Your Synology will be as safe as the environment and circumstances it's used in. That's not up to the device at all.
@@Noodles.FreeUkraine .. You mean it's safe as a Ubiquiti breach? Taking pictures of something that can ever be used against you and posting them anywhere you've got much bigger problems.
For me the Photo Station app stopped working at some point and just keeps throwing errors at me no matter if I uninstall and reinstall it. Haven't looked into it for months anymore since I didn't even use it, but from what I still know almost nobody had that same error as I did.
This is why I don’t use Google services they are notorious for randomly removing a product/service.
But still nobody has created anything to rival picasa. *sighs* I miss that easy basic editing/etc.
I agree. i was running it for years after it was discontinued. Fantastic product.
@@Boburto If I could still run it, I would be. (I mean, easily. Obviously I could run it in an ancient VM or something.... but..... that kinda defeats the ease of use that made it great.)
I take a lot of photos and just put then on my NAS. My latest is a Synology with 7TB of usable space. Never trust corporations with your data. That should be a rule somewhere.
Thanks Tom!
Wow, I really need to get a synology and play with all of these functions.
SyncThing is great for backing up Android phones, including photos, but still researching for a good open source Google photos replacement option as I don't have a Synology and am running TrueNAS - if you know of any...
I'm on the same boat, recently saw Photoview (github.com/Baseflow/PhotoView) But it's still very new, but looks very promising
Does anyone have an issue with indexing when using moments ? I purchased a ds118 and takes forever to index
Sure hope DSM7 Photos gets released soon
latest update is : june 2021 will be official release
Great video. Synology makes great products but it isn't always suitable for new users. For instance my system got stuck generating thumbnails for moments after i moved too many files. You need to be able to get to the command line to fix this, which isn't ideal for new users. Hopefully this is fixed in DSM 7.0.
Thanks Tom. Does anyone know how the apps integrate with mail and messaging apps, as far as being able to select a picture to post in one of those apps? Does it require downloading the pic to the device before it can be included in the mail/message?
Can it handle multiple phones? If so would each phone have its own separate storage space or would they all be combined in one?
It should come down to the users, as with all things Synology.
Yes, each user on your Synology is a separate Moments space
Thanks for this excellent video
Thanks Tom, appreciate it! 👍
Hey Tom. I looked at this when Google first announced this change. I couldn't find an easy way to get files off of Google photos and in to Synology moments. You can only download a handful of photos at a time (100 odd). Which means for 4-5 years of photos a pain in the arse.
Google allows you to download up to 500 photos at once. I'm in the process of getting everything off Google, still tedious though..
Synology Photo is going to be released in DSM 7.0. You should have waited.
Nah, worth doing now as people are looking to replace Google Photos and I will just do another video once Synology releases the new software.
The problem for me is if want to expose the photos it's php based app and I don't have trust due to bad history. Even last month I think there's found vulnerability that allowed to execute any code on the server
Any idea when DSM 7 is coming out, with the new Photos app?
Is it really 100% local if it's comparing your photos against an AI image recognition model? Is the model executed locally?
You mention that this is a solution fully on premice but I wonder how their AI works for the face and "things" recognition - I would be surprise if they do that locally without submitting each photo to a specialized cloud. What is your take on that Tom ?
You can do object recognition even on a raspberry pi so it's really not that big of a deal for the Synology to be doing that locally
any alternative which can be self-hosted?
Lightning destroyed my drobo and I did not lose any of my data all I had to do was buy a new drobo, remove the drives from the old into the new drobo bam up and running.
Google Photos: 9.5/10
Every other photo service
What about unlimited4k video back up ? That's why I switched to pixels in 2016. I am not as concerned about the space photos take as much as video
Anyone able to recommend a Linux based feature for feature alternative to these programs? Synology hardware is out of my price range. Think pi4. Thanks.
I’ve been testing out PhotoPrism recently.
I run it as a container on my Ubuntu Server. I think it could run on a Pi but not sure how well. Fully open source.
One thing I really like about it is you don’t actually have to “import” all your photos into the App. You can simply point the app to a network share where your photos are located and also (if you wish) set it as read only so that it has no ability to delete/modify your photos.
It stores all the data it needs in a separate directory from your “originals”
Does it handle RAW or just jpeg?
@AstroCat I was more wanting the leverage the AI stuff - hopefully. I already use Lightroom, but I was shooting RAW before I started using Lightroom and a bunch of my stuff isn't tagged, and it's all stored in folders by date shot, so not ideal when you're looking for something.
I switched to Monument Photo Backup and never looked back. It's been a rock solid photo backup solution for me.
What OS does it run in?
My only gripe with this review is the fact that you keep mentioning that because you're hosting the photos yourself it's a bit more private which it is until you enable quick connect. Quick connect is not privacy focus. You are sharing your data your information about your Nas with Synology. I feel that's an important point you should harp on is that when you use quick connect you are giving up privacy
Except that's not true, having a quick connect does not give Synology any type of direct access to your photos. It only creates a connection so it can be with proper username and password access externally.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS not entirely true on how the quick connect tech works based on their KB. It’s end to end encryption with the quick connect servers in the middle. At some point they do see data.
@@PowerUsr1 Yes, entirely true, and it is documented, so you should read the white paper on Quick Connect. They use end to end encryption encryption starting at the Synology device.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS I could see a tunnel being established from nas to Synology cloud and client to Synology cloud should be HTTPS connection. So data inside Synology cloud must be a unencrypted. So I guess this is not going to be end to end encryption
@@aasilmahesh Seeing a tunnel does not mean you can decrypt the tunnel
I use Google Hubs around the house as photo frames so I don't think this would work for me :(
Moments is still buggy as f**... (Ds1517+, rs3614xs+)
privacy policy?
Synology is trash, what would happen if PSU Dies? everything gone
It’s Linux move them to another Linux box.
It's an external power supply unit, just buy another one.
Or just make regular backups. Synology is not trash
Your comment is trash.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS Some use an internal power supply. However these can be replaced too, or you can simply move all the drives to another synology system (or linux box) to retrieve all the data. I did this when i updated my box, just moved all the drives and started back up as if nothing had changed. Just running a little faster.