TRAIN WRECK - PART 1 | CAN YOU REBEL AGAINST AN OPPRESSIVE MUSLIM RULER IKHTILAF OR IJMA? | HOT SEAT
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- I want to announce the train wreck series against Abdul Rahman Hassan
This series will go walk you through the misquotations and false claims of ARH.
I will show clearly how ARH attempts to change the standard narrative that has been accepted by the ummah for centuries.
ARH claims to follow the Salaf and says he doesnt bring anything from his pocket.
However I will show you how he made up invented conditions and defintions from his pocket.
During the series I will ask you of two things.
ARH dedicated around 14 hours, and he didnt provide proofs for the many things which we will highlight.
If you are here convinced by newly invented positions, then bring the salaf to prove this is what the Salaf believed and what ARH is claiming is not from his own pocket.
Secondly, if you believe I am making anything up even though I will only bring you known and established scholars and if you feel I have bought anything from myself then you can highlight this as well.
Prepare to be shocked!
#BroHajji
#UstadhAbdulRahmanHassan
#AMAU
ARH is a distorter and his hypocrisy in unreal. He wants scholars that say Husayn did Khurooj. When u give him over 10 scholars he says, no but they aren't from the salaf. If u give him from the salaf he says: it isn't binding on me b/c Husayn didn't give bay'ah.
His hypocrisy knows no bounds and it's clear that he is just a pawn of the rulers that should be abandoned b/c anything coming from isn't to be trusted
where is this from i wanna see
Bare in mind an oppressive ruler in the time of sahaba was a lot more worthy of the title of a "Muslim leader" than what we see ruling today in KSA and surrounding states.
Indeed
comparing those khulafah with modern day tawagheet is ZULM!..IT WILL BE AN INSULT TO THEM.
Agree they atleast fought against enemies
bro hajji may Allah reward you, as most people with a background and knowledge of sellafeeya, one of the things they taught me was that a companion (may Allah be pleased with them) is someone who physically saw the messenger of Allah (saw) in the flesh and accepted his message, pretty much along those lines. I can just see it, they'll argue how can a baby be a companion when a baby is too young to comprehend anything
The reason the baby is written as a companion is because he saw the Prophet (peace be upon him) and grew up as a muslim. That is why he is still a sahabi like the other sahaba (may Allah ta'ala be pleased with them) who were born and grew up as Muslims. Their are two types of sahaba, those that saw and accepted, and those that saw and grew up as believers.
@@yourstruly5706 @yours truly they'll still argue a baby doesn't count because a baby is just that, a BABY! someone would have told that particular companion when he grew up that he was blessed with having had the prophet(saw) hold him as a baby and rub a date on his gums, because he wouldn't have known that otherwise. may Allah reward brotha hajji he knows very well these guys thrive on technicalities, double standards and shifting the goal posts, and I can just here them now, "oh bro hajjii thinks infant babies can be sahaba now" may Allah forgive us and give us understanding
@@seenoevil6320 That would s stupid argument, since he's classified as a sahabi. What makes it worse is we would have to dismiss quite a few sahaba (may Allah ta'ala be pleased with them) because they were kids at the time. That includes the grandsons of the Prophet (peace be upon him) as they wouldn't be baligh (like half the age of what is considered baligh).
They would be shooting themselves in the foot of that became an argument. Heck we can also throw out quite a few habits since some of the tabieen were also kids, when they heard them.
@@yourstruly5706 but don't they constantly shoot themselves in the foot! they'll say logic dictates that an infant baby cries, eats, is helped to burp, poop, sleeps and repeats that, therefore how can that be a companion (may Allah be pleased with them). Which I would respond with, wait a minute, aren't you guys always going on about not using your own logic and opinion. Salafe's always told me this deen is not about your logic and opinion, which I've learned is a way to control. Frustratingly these guys have circular arguments, may Allah guide us all.
@James Joe oh masha_Allah, so this baby grew up to actually meet the prophet(peace be up on him) mentioned such interactions and narrirated his sayings, so that's settled then. may Allah forgive us and guide us
I completely lost it when Bro Hajji said "You malfunctioned a few times". Lmao!! haha
Me, it was when he called them Beevis and Butthead LOOOOOOL😆😆😆 go make photocopies 😆😆
"Rules for thee, none for me."
Sums up everything, everytime.
Salaf: Sahaba did khuruj
SPUB: Sahaba did khuruj, but they were 'mistaken' because books of aqidah were not written yet
AMAU: Sahaba did not do khuruj, because they never gave bayah
They're just hypocrites.
They are all over the place. They know that if they apply their principles, they would have to call the Sahabah Khariji hence they come up with these distortions
@@letsbegood_ Waalaikum salam brother.
There *were* an ijma from among the salaf, but all of them were broken because at least one of the mujtahid from each of the generation has went against the ruler. These include Husain bin ali, Ibn Zubair, Syabi, Ibn Jubair, Abu Hanifah and Imam Malik, etc.
For about why khuruj was mentioned in many of the books of aqidah from salaf, Bro Hajji has already made excellent video about this. There is a video called "SHAMSI: “BUT.....IT’S IN THE BOOKS AQEEDAH | REFUTATION" by Bro Hajji. Basically a matter being in the books of aqidah *does not* automatically mean that matter is an aqidah matter, and there are many reasons why a matter is included in books of aqidah. For example, praying in trousers, nikah mut'ah and wiping over leather socks are mentioned in books of aqidah, but those not an aqidah matter.
@@letsbegood_ sure, go ahead brother.
@@AbdulH97 EXACTLY
This is the finale we have all been waiting for!
Is anyone planning on making a timetable for the different topics discussed? I'm a bit busy but I'd like to hear those Madaakhila get roasted
How can this apply to Saudi Arabia when we haven't given them Bay'ah?
So they're saying you can do Khurooj if you haven't given Bay'ah, but you can't use your toNNgue against Saudi Arabia even though we didn't give Bay'ah anyway?
I think Saudi wants to hijack the khilafa
And what muslims ruler are we supposed to give bay'ah to 🤣🤣🤣
lol
The interviewer looked embarrassed when ARH was insisting that Al Khilafah only referred to KUFA, not the entire khilafah.
pinnacle of stupidity!
Whoever and whatever not inline with their claims is automatically "not hujja" for them.
What is new? Pretty much standard operating procedure with the Salaafis.
I still can't forget the statement "too complicated to be translated" in Sa'hiy'h Bukhaariy because the Hadiysth don't agree with their beliefs.
Anyone here after Sheikh Assim himself said there was no ijma? LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣 they both should stick to printing and photocopying
Mashallah you totally refuted this brother
Does that mean the super salafi believe you can do khuruj if you haven’t given bayah? Confusion
Just completed your response 👍 👌 divided it into 3 days needed to make notes. I wonder if ARH even read the books?
I almost feel sorry for the Somalian bloke. Bro Haji that was a ruthless disection😂. It goes to show how u can embarrass yourself when you only have a little knowledge. But seriously Bro Haj that was a fantastic clarification. JazakAllah khair
Abdurahman Hassan has way more knowledge than bro Hajji, and that isn’t something bro hajji would even deny. He (AH) has little compared to the scholars, sure. But he is without a doubt an advanced student of knowledge.
"Maybe his definition is different.....OF COURSE IT IS! YOU IGNORAMUS! 1:15:01
I couldn't stop myself from laughing out loud. 😂
Much love and respect Akhi from IO Kashmir. :')
Baraka Allahu feeka. ❤️
Salaam from the same Kashmir.. good to see someone from my place also zealous to gain knowledge and curse these madkhalis... dekha salafiyo ka kamaal?
Can't wait!
@@ahmedibrahimalii6462 Masha Allah, you seem to have ilm ul ghayb bruv, you know he's going to lie before he even posts the video....Wauuuuuuuwwww, that shows how sincere and honest you are.
@@ahmedibrahimalii6462 Ur ghuluw and ta'asub is apparent, quit following personalities and look at the evidence
@@ahmedibrahimalii6462 lolol I smell super salafi I think it's from you....
@@ahmedibrahimalii6462 And then there was silence. You got owned yet again. 😆
The salafi are the magicians of pheros of today
They are murjia of this age neo-salafis
Salam’s brother, what you think about Al Islam videos on Abu Latyth?
how did they start laughing when it clearly says "AL-khilafa" bruhhh. This is a joke.
1:49:54 saa'd ibn muslim ibn jundub is majhool (unknown) so this sanaad is daif. although bukhari is in the sanaad.
WALAIKUMUSSALAM WA RAHMATULLAHI WABARAKATUHU
ARH really messed up, no joke
Him and his groups are known to distort and lie, especially that little weasel dawahboy.
SPUBS are not against terrorism. The ONLY reason they are against ISIS is because ISIS represent a threat to Saudi rulers. It has nothing at all to do with human rights. Always call them out on their nonsense, as they hope by calling them terrorists, we assume the reasons are the same, when the reasons are different.
May ALLAH guide us all. Ameen. ❤️
The fan that cleared the smoke out the room.
@bro hajji. Brother I have one question. I have read this hadith regarding regret of Abdullah ibn Umar(r.a). In some narrations ibn Umar regret not fighting alongside ali against muwaiyya.. this regret is valid and no one have problem with it bcz there is ijma fighting against the bugaat. But fighting against hajjaj is different. Hajjaj wasnt a baagi.. if he is saying against hajjaj that means at the end of his life he allowed rebellion against oppressive ruler.. I need your clarification.. plz
Ibn Umar regretting not fighting Hajjaj as the narration states يَعْنِي: الحَجَّاجَ .
Don’t be brainwashed, go read the narration in سير اعلام النبلاء. He regretted not fighting Hajjaj.
I’m sorry, all what you have been taught by the Super Salafees has been distortions and manipulations.
@@BroHajji Brother I'm not a super salafi. For me super salafiyah is the worst group in Muslim Ummah. I just asked you a question so that you can clarify me. I came across with many narrations. In some it is mentioned I regret fighting alongside Ali(r.a) against bugaat... Only one narration where I found yani al hajjaj...so I need clarification. Are these two different hadith or one hadith
I am not a blind follower. I have benefited from your videos alhamdulilah. But in some cases if I have any confusion you have responsibilty to clarify the issue so that I can refute madakhila... This hadith that you showed me really breaks the false foundation of neo salafis. I can share with you different narrations. It is appreciated if you can help me.
The youth belonging to the cult of wahabism are distorting the religion.
So khurooj allowed if we don't give bayah?
MashAllah you absolutely destroyed their flimsy arguments. They just make conditions up astaughfirAllah.
Bro haji I agree with you on your refutation but I think it should be done with respect there's no need for calling him names. I watched both of you guys but oustaz Abdu Rahman was well mannered even though I don't agree with him on the subject
Well mannered? Lying to protect the tyrant killing machine mbs is well mannered? You are missing the whole point.
@@mdredhwansiddique7831 he did not call haji a fool or ignorant that's my point
@@biranendiaye8593 etiquette and apparent manners mean nothing if your making tabdee and consider someone khawarij dogs in hellfire just because they argue there is different of opinion in this issue, very arrogant
The brothers advice is right no need to get defensive in the chats.
1:17:15 best part 😅
والله too funny
Why on earth does ARH not give up and stop this fitnah??? Can someone really be this arrogant???
He represents the original teachings of wahabis
@Zabua Mabua so doing takfir and calling Muslims Kafir was a teaching of the Prophet? Killing Muslims was a teaching of the Prophet? Go back to the origins of wahabism and it’s followers not the rebrand as “Salafism” which was to tone down and wAter down his teachings and actions. There is a reason all the terrorists kill Muslims and inspire from his actions
Sincere advice: please shorten the videos in value of your time as well as the time of your viewers. No one wants to or should they want to spend 3 hrs watching madakhila getting rinsed.
I disagree as one can learn a lot from refutations. For example you can learn many perspectives of every issue that is discussed and in doing so can gain clarity on many matters as well as learning knowledge.
You can watch his other short videos/clips on the matter no need to shorten a golden video on youtube filled with information
He usually releases short clips after the video but you wouldn't get all the evidences this way. Perhaps just watch over a few days, that's what I did. Up to you anyway.
I don't think there is anyway around it, as they went on a 14 hour ranting marathon.
What Hajji should do is split his responds more than 4 parts. Release them in 30 minutes or max 1 hour parts.
@@goidogoi no keep them how they are. If you cant watch it all, pause it note down the time and continue when you desire.
I think there may be a misunderstanding about the definition of a Sahaba, just because you saw the prophet (saw) as a baby, that doesn’t make you a sahabi, even according to the definition you mentioned. Also is it necessary to call brother Hassan a fraud? On what basis? I see this as an ill attitude and lack of adab. If you r going to refute a respected brother, refute with adab. Br. Hassan isn’t a deviated liberal misguiding Muslims to deserve such an attitude
If you would have watched the whole video I proved he also narrated Hadith from the Prophet, I’m sure a baby can’t narrate hadith 😂.
14 hours podcast, destroyed within the first 15 minutes 😂, wait for part 2 and 3 ان شاء الله.
The reason why I mentioned that was to show you this baby had the honour of been blessed with the noble of saliva of the Prophet ﷺ in his mouth.
Furthermore, many youth of the Sahabah weren’t even baligh by the time the Prophet ﷺ passed away and that would include the prophets grandsons Al-Hasan & Hussain, so are they not companions?
ARH is a deviant fraud and a charlatan, and he deserves such attitude. He proved he lacks academic integrity and anyone who takes knowledge from him, after watching this video doesn’t value his deen.
@@BroHajji ok, I have watched a large portion of this video and your previous video. You may be right on this issue and you may have made some valid points. However this does not prove br. Hassan is a deviant fraud. Why the need to attack him? You can easily make your points without doing so and giving him a good assumption about why he missed the points you are making. I’m not sure what your history with him is, and I don’t have time to go into why you don’t like him. I was hoping to find an opposing point of view to Br. Hassan’s view, but I am disappointed in your manners and name calling
ماشاءالله تبارك الله
You absolutely destroyed their fake madhab! The 107 like most likely didn’t even watch your whole video lol. They won’t watch your videos I know their attitude they don’t listen to the “other side”.
looking forward to watching this tonight, bro you been ripping into this cult for far too long now........can we go back to learning about shiaism please
1:49:33 أبو حاتم الرازي : لا اعرف سعيد بن مسلم هذا، وإنما أعرف عبد الله بن مسلم بن جندب ولعل هذا أخوه
سعيد بن مسلم بن جندب الهذلي روى عن أبيه روى عنه الصلت ابن محمد الخاركي سمعت أبي يقول: لا أعرف سعيد بن مسلم هذا وإنما أعرف عبد الله بن مسلم بن جندب، ولعل هذا أخوه، وللصلت مشايخ كثيرة - ابن أبي حاتم الرازي - الجرح والتعدي
سَعِيد بْن مُسلم بن جُنْدُب الْهُذلِيّ أَخُو عبد الله بن مُسلم يروي عَن أَبِيه روى عَنهُ الصَّلْت بن مُحَمَّد
Ibn Ḥibbān (d. 965 CE) - al-Thiqāt ابن حبان -
سَعِيد بْن مُسْلِم بْن جندب الهذلي،
سَمِعَ أباه، روى عَنْهُ الصلت بْن مُحَمَّد، أراه أخا عَبْد اللَّه.
Al-Bukhārī (d. 870 CE) - al-Tārikh al-kabīr البخاري - التاريخ الكبير
Let's get some time stamps pls
Bro hajji why can't u Debate with him...
... every one becomes ALLAMAH IN HIS HOME.........talk to him that u wanna debate with him
Did you not see the distortions and manipulations? 😂 - He has been exposed! - Anyone can make claims in a debate. I ratified the sources unlike ARH.
If you still are a fan girl after all the distortions, then you are a typical 📦 head.
We should take his words as is that he looked into those books as he said...
That in turn shows his true reality. That he is hiding and manipulating the Truth and lying right through his teeth.
Me must have husnu'z'zann on people after all. 😁
How could people evan listen/ take knowledge from a dunce or a fraudster such an easy debunk
instead of talking bad about others, why don't you spend time doing something useful ? brother look at your face recording this video. why are you so passionate and excited and exerting so much effort talking ill about someone who doesn't even know you exist ? wallahi this is very sad seeing someone pushing himself to these lengths just to talk bad about someone.
UK dawah became a popularity show and everyone arguing and fighting each other. It became reality TV.
وقد ذكر العلامة الشيخ ابن عثيمين ـ رحمه الله ـ في شرح رياض الصالحين عند حديث واثلة بنت الأسقع أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: لا تظهر الشماتة لأخيك فيرحمه الله ويبتليك ـ يعني أن الإنسان إذا عير أخاه في شيء ربما يرحم الله هذا المعير ويشفى من هذا الشيء ويزول عنه، ثم يبتلى به هذا الذي عيره، وهذا يقع كثيرا، ولهذا جاء في حديث آخر في صحته نظر لكنه موافق لهذا الحديث: من عير أخاه بذنب لن يمت حتى يعمله، فإياك وتعيير المسلمين والشماتة فيهم فربما يرتفع عنهم ما شمتهم به ويحل فيك.
When is part 2 coming
After Ramadan ان شاء الله
Interesting
Its sad that muslim brothers fight over the deen
no wonder people leave islam considering how bad the so called DAWAH is
Why cant you take the courage to talk to him privatly rather than making 50 videos him for what just to gain viewership and money.
What are you even talking about? Do you even know what dawah is?
Yhyh same crap again
Give me a synopsis of the two viewpoints if you have understood it..
"Ustadh" Abdur Rahman hassan the lier
Why you can’t be trusted ...You was eager to debate salafis but when abdulrahman Hasan sent you that letter....you no longer want to debate ...I wonder why isit because your ashamed he might embarrass you ? You should not worry if your on the haqq instead your sending videos from home which ANYONE Can do ..
mate you should join them and stick to printing and photocopying
@Abbas Abdullah did he really say he had no time? Because he then released a 12 hour podcast lol
Debate is not strong point of ARH also have you watched how Abu Baraa owned him in their debate
No, because all that shows is memorisation ability. And that is not a condition for truth. Well researched videos are better.
@@wajootube2075 Even Asrar Rashid broke him down in a debate, ARH is all smokes and mirrors when debating.