TRAIN WRECK - PART 2 | CAN YOU REBEL AGAINST AN OPPRESSIVE MUSLIM RULER IKHTILAF OR IJMA? | HOT SEAT

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  • @BroHajji
    @BroHajji  3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Please note - The video goes black from 25:09 - 25:21 due to an editing error from my part.
    It’s not the end of the video as it continues from 25:21.
    Please accept my apology!
    بارك الله فيك

    • @qabaselfurjani3973
      @qabaselfurjani3973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gamingwithumar2.012 Chill out there Mr.Al Hindi. Respect the amazing work Bro Hajji has done for the Ummah. May Allah Bless you, me and brother Hajji.

    • @dawoodfaqier9762
      @dawoodfaqier9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gamingwithumar2.012Just watch the video you 🐑.

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gamingwithumar2.012 according to your cult way of thinking aisha (ra) and the other companions who went against khalifah Ali ibn abi talib were considered khawarij

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamingwithumar2.012 i am talking after uthman (ra) death is not according to me is according to the madkhali way of thinking i am not against sahaba i was just using madkhali logic bro hajji does not need to expose your cult when you guys open the mouth you already expose yourselfes one thing is hating the sunnah another is blind following a cult.

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamingwithumar2.012 you talk about hatred and you at the same time use disgusting language with no manners

  • @shadowwhowalk
    @shadowwhowalk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Madkhalis are four types:
    1- Intelligence officers following orders
    2- People of whims and desires
    3- Beneficiaries of a trend
    4- A few well-intentioned individuals who haven't hanged around long to discover the misguidance and dishonesty

    • @muhammadiqbal4698
      @muhammadiqbal4698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      excellent analysis

    • @jamesjoe2399
      @jamesjoe2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts

    • @MuMu124
      @MuMu124 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm gonna have husn udhhan and say alot of them are the 4th category but because it is a cult and a filthy one at that and probably a lot of disgusting things happen behind the scenes once they figure out it's real face they are very afraid of speaking out and leaving

    • @emerald7857
      @emerald7857 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true. My own brother was number 4, and alhamdulilaah saw through it.
      The ones that I can’t stand and feel most sorry for are number 3, they bury their heads because they are exactly as you said “beneficiaries of a trend”

  • @mosesr255
    @mosesr255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm getting addicted to these Sunday evening posts. Just looking forward to these every week now. Geez, the day bro Hajji decides to post on a different weekday, honestly I don't know what I'll do!!

  • @TehAbdullah
    @TehAbdullah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    8 thumbs down and they haven't seen it
    Those madkhali trolls must have subscribed just to thumb down

    • @aw588
      @aw588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone already knows the fallacy of his videos, he could get just as much views if talks about the Haqq, instead of a bunch of PDF's

    • @عبدالله-ت6خ6ي
      @عبدالله-ت6خ6ي 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aw588 "bunch of PDF's" are you serious?

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aw588 according to your cult way of thinking aisha (ra) and the other companions who went against khalifah Ali ibn abi talib were considered khawarij

    • @aw588
      @aw588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pierre22423 Haha, who said that, and the only cult I see is you and the one Bro Hajji is creating. You guys have only one aim, to undermine Salafis, that's all.

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aw588 i dont agree with everything bro hajji says unlike you i dont blind follow a selective number of imams or what the madkhali cult says.

  • @emerald7857
    @emerald7857 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Asalamu alaykum, Akhi I’ve been watching your vids, came here after train wreck part 1, and also after listening to some of their responses to your vids. I saw a clip where they strawmanned you and refute something you never said. The text with quotation marks below is my response to their vid. I’ve been silent watching from afar and everything I said in the quoted text is what I think. I look forward to part 2, and ask that Allah preserves you. Don’t think for one second what you do doesn’t matter. In many years I have not seen anyone tackle these issues the way you have. & not all of us listen and see and then gaslight ourselves into rejection with out substance.
    That said here’s my comment on their vid. I was most annoyed by the time waste.
    “No he didn’t, these short clips responding to his vids is nothing but propaganda. Refute him properly with the evidences and texts showing anything less than that says a lot about you and is loud.
    You said under one of the comments on this vid, that you look forward to his videos because it makes you laugh and gives you content. But Akhi with all due respect if this is all you can do with them, then you’re not fooling anyone.
    What I as an objective observer and listener see is egos skirting around to avoid defeat.
    Hajji is one man vs how many of your da’ees? just finished watching his train wreck part 1, and I was highly skeptical tuning in but he presented proof for every single thing he said & clarified. Even after playing direct full context including clips of statements abdurahman Hassan made. Everything he pulled up on him about was valid, and then he showed surgical detailed evidence from the books to back up his contentions. If he said abdurahman left a crucial meaning changing word out of something he said, he showed the original text and behold there was the crucial word that changed meaning entirely.
    Until you guys go through his vids and dissect and back up your contentions behind what you deem he got wrong, or what you deem worthy of refutation, the way he did then you’ve been exposed and defeated.
    I’m personally shocked I did not expect his receipts and style of detailed refutation to stand up so strongly, but it does.
    The difference between his mocking here there and yours is he at least puts in the work and presents it.
    This matter is about our diin it’s the first time I’ve seen someone disagree bringing solid proofs and it says a lot that to this day no one has matched his energy with the proofs and arguments stemming from them.
    You guys are known for your pdfs and refuting but with him on this crucial issue you come up short? Your best defence is to ignore and act like his not worth time?
    Wallahi he is, he has you (the opposition) on the ropes, his proven time and again his claims about your distortion of the proofs, the contradictions in your claims, the conditions you come up with, the goal posts you move.
    refute him thoroughly and properly if you’re right. Because the truth is his set a standard that can’t be ignored.
    I have no bias against him, so I can say all this simply because it’s true. & deep down many ppl feel like this. We tuned in thinking nothing of it and finished vid genuinely surprised.
    May Allah protect the muslimeen from ego defence when it comes to his diin and let the evidence speak loudest.” End.
    No one should approach this issue aligned to a clique. This is haq vs batil and the worst batil is the one that is believed to be haq and the distortions that lead to this slipping through the cracks for the one aboard such a ship.
    May Allah expose those with concerns other than establishing haq for his diin.

  • @justCommando
    @justCommando 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bro hajji: "No one's gonna watch a 5 hour response"
    Me: Hold my Zamzam

  • @bacteria5184
    @bacteria5184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Walahi I am shocked,one time it is khuruj and later it is kalimatul haq,abdurahman hassan display need to apologise for his mistakes.

  • @ama6431
    @ama6431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    6 minutes in and its enough to understand how this two brothers in question are ignorant. JAK for this video

  • @muhammadnabiku4117
    @muhammadnabiku4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Meaning of ahlul bid'ah:*
    people who do innovations ✖️
    people who do not do innovations but want innovations ✔️

  • @hamzazulfi
    @hamzazulfi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is the level of "knowledgeable Ustad" that a student of knowledge (who is not an Arab and is not an expert in Arabic pronunciations/meanings) is correcting him extensively and showcasing his frauds and lies. Smh.

  • @russgurpa1306
    @russgurpa1306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If a muslim ruler takes too much jizia from Christians, then if Christians protest and want their haqq, prescribed to them by Allah, then, according to AbduRrahman Hassan, these Christians are ahl ul-Haqq. It is because they want their haqq.

  • @rajamadni2902
    @rajamadni2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The contradiction is shocking.. proper eye opener.. ❤️.

  • @symbiotezilla12345
    @symbiotezilla12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what I want to know is even if it's completely haram to rebel against a legitimate muslim ruler no matter how oppressive they are - HOW do these same complicated debates/rulings apply to modern day secular rulers ruling over the muslims with the complete ABSENCE of sharia????

    • @thretman5302
      @thretman5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only that but a bigger issue is there's 97393748392738292947392938 different rulers today with our nation state system. So a Muslim in Turkey is under no obligation to obey the Saudi King as he only rules over Saudi. Therefore if that Muslim decides to go and fight the Saudi ruler because of his corruption and betrayal of the ummah what is the ruling then?? They can't say it's haram to rebel, as he's not actually rebelling the Saudi ruler is not his ruler.

    • @symbiotezilla12345
      @symbiotezilla12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thretman5302
      Yeah but according to them the saudi rulers you cannot rebel against. But they would make tabdi or takfir of the turkish ruler...it’s a strange system.

    • @thretman5302
      @thretman5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@symbiotezilla12345 even for the sake of argument if we except their rulings, a Muslim who is not a citizen of the Saudi State has no alleigance to their rulers and is free to criticize them or even work against them etc. They can't use their usual misinterpreted hadith of obey the ruler even if he flogs your back etc because the Saudi ruler is not his ruler, to him he's just like any ordinary Muslim who was causing huge amounts of corruption and oppression.

    • @zoomermcboomer4771
      @zoomermcboomer4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@symbiotezilla12345 who made takfir of the turkish ruler?

    • @Kimeikus
      @Kimeikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoomermcboomer4771 I think he means how they openly criticize the Ottoman Empire who led the Muslims for hundreds of years and accuse them of all sorts of bad things.
      But then they refuse to criticize anyone involved in Saudi Arabia’s history because they “love the Sunnah” EVEN if they do the thing that they criticize the Ottomans for.

  • @m.h4219
    @m.h4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When he's nodding lmfao 😂😂😅😅😅🤓

  • @Kimeikus
    @Kimeikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:14:48 Bingo!
    I thought it was just me. We have seen Muslims who inherited traits from Christians, but these guys have inherited many traits from the Jews 🤣

  • @tsgillespiejr
    @tsgillespiejr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP Arabic language... would Madākhilah be able to even look people in the eye if they didn't have their king's financial backing?

  • @jaouad7405
    @jaouad7405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m watching 5 minutes and I’m already feeling sick.

    • @zambiana7
      @zambiana7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go have a banana..!!!

    • @pierre22423
      @pierre22423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      according to your cult way of thinking aisha (ra) and the other companions who went against khalifah Ali ibn abi talib were considered khawarij

    • @jaouad7405
      @jaouad7405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pierre22423
      I’m not part of the Najdi dawah.

  • @mkal752
    @mkal752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Haha I'm bare confused, speaking against the rulers according to the medkhalis makes me from those of the best jihad or a khariji?
    He casually bounces between the two like it's a minor ..
    Keep exposing these bootlickers bro

  • @timmytab2836
    @timmytab2836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an excellent breakdown. Just highlights how careful we have to be when acquiring knowledge. What are your qualifications BTW? Where did you study?

  • @amarnahad2835
    @amarnahad2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The super salafis are staunch adherents to no following a madhab. However they do blind taqleed of the muhadditheen.
    Are the muhaditheen infallable?

  • @jarirmuthana3327
    @jarirmuthana3327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its like saying a person who is murdered, was punished by Allah totally ignoring the evil sin of the murderer. The super salafi stance makes no sense whatsoever.

    • @jarirmuthana3327
      @jarirmuthana3327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then blaming the one murdered because he was sinful

    • @jamesjoe2399
      @jamesjoe2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarirmuthana3327 sounds another “ Palestine you have been deceived” quote lol.

  • @daudfw8440
    @daudfw8440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hajj I'm not at puzzled as I never was blind taglidi but from my experience with the madakilla of iman, I knew I took the sahaba words and way of life more closely than words of my parents, and ppl fail you but the serah and the gr8 ulama of the past, won't.

  • @kingrapid
    @kingrapid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another well dismantled video by Bro Hajji... these lot ain't got a leg to stand on.. EEEEEEVEN if we say "he made a mistake"... well... if you're making elementary mistakes like that, should you really be doing podcasts out in public????? ALLAH YAHFADHAK BRO and may Allah grant us all sincerity YA Rab... Ameen... And keep up the good work!

  • @billystanfield300
    @billystanfield300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great vid bro
    can you please do a vid on jamal and siffin and explain who were the bughat and khawarij at that time ?

  • @hamzazulfi
    @hamzazulfi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking against the ruler is khrooj unless you speak (can be harsh) in front of him . lol. What a joke.

  • @hamzazulfi
    @hamzazulfi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:13:17 That clip from old uncle is funny and sad at the same time.

  • @authentichadiths5979
    @authentichadiths5979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I invite your all to listen to some hadiths narrations

  • @ramadan4660
    @ramadan4660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is clear that this misguided madkhali is dishonest and only unthinking sheep will follow his absolute lies. I am gobsmacked at how Mr hasan can lie so blatantly. هو ضال مضل. Mr hasan has no right to speak in the name of Islam.

  • @abdulhafidhswaleh1174
    @abdulhafidhswaleh1174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol thumbnail

  • @m.h4219
    @m.h4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't say he's not known 😅

  • @bacteria5184
    @bacteria5184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dhu khuwaysirah.didnt even explain some scholars dispute this.why salafiya?why?

  • @limitlesshoopstraining2398
    @limitlesshoopstraining2398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s a better approach bro

    • @zambiana7
      @zambiana7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You right... Go chilla jamaat..

    • @T1000-e7s
      @T1000-e7s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then make your own channel and try that approach. Bro Hajji you carry on exposing these fraudsters openly as they openly misguide.

  • @bayonwa8262
    @bayonwa8262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bhai tumara character itna be adab que he? Bohot acha nahi lagta, aur ye jhoot wale raste ko chor do.

  • @dizzyinfo
    @dizzyinfo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🤣🤣 box headed fraud......@bro hajji, at speakers corner with Muhammed Hijab you said you will quit calling them names, that didn't last long, did it.

    • @T1000-e7s
      @T1000-e7s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Curly whirly yeah judging by the warm clothing he is wearing, the UK has been quite warm for at least 2 weeks

    • @jamesjoe2399
      @jamesjoe2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video is way before that Hyde park talk calm down chap

  • @killahjfrmdak6409
    @killahjfrmdak6409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother keep the ustadhs name out your mouth, you can keep criticising as much as you want it's not gonna benefit you in any way. "Train wreck" brother haji it seems like you watch other peoples to bring out faults.

  • @M-pt9xt
    @M-pt9xt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro your lovely brother and I am sure your intentions are good.
    But seriously go after Sufi, berlevi deobandi Shia etc
    These are small issues

    • @mohammadamin1567
      @mohammadamin1567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abdq4712 getting too hot for them

    • @M-pt9xt
      @M-pt9xt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mohammadamin1567 lol you lot are too funny.
      Show me one verse or hadith where the prophet said don't forget to celebrate my birthday...
      Waiting :)
      End of debate no go and pray witr and make dua.
      Jazakem Allah kier.

    • @ahk3394
      @ahk3394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stop exposing the salafis Hajji! Atleast give some of the others a chance 😂

    • @abdullahibnmiah2986
      @abdullahibnmiah2986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you think every ruling requires a literal Qur'an verse or hadeeth then my friend you are very ignorant hence it's no surprise you have fell in to salafism.

    • @fallenprince2146
      @fallenprince2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These are "small" issues?
      Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajiun.