After owning 78 bikes this is the best fun I have ever owned. And its my 2nd one! Never had any issues! Awesome torque, handling (twisties king!), brakes etc. And very comfortable too!
Yepp. I own the 1st gen which still runs like a charm (only has 27k miles on it). On the road it's still enough (320 mm brake disks and brembo calipers) even without any electronics other than fuel injection.
Thanks for this video Scott! As a first gen Tuono rider this is on my wish list because I like beefy V2s. On the other hand a 1100 Tuono V4, a Speed Triple and a MT-10 would be nice alternatives.
Thanks for the Evo info. From 1 present Gen.1 owner to another . What a bike . Just had new Dunlop hoops and OEM battery installed. Don't think I could ever part with that motorcycle. Maybe because the 1st owner knew how to mod. a bike . Has all the goodies. Thanks again .
Great review,maybe the tech is leading and performance is exciting for the price but the looks and style of it only from the front only mother could love...
Had MASSIVE Quality issues with my 1390, which took months to repair. Even had it swapped out by the dealer for a replacement bike, also brand new which again had issues. Unacceptable at this price point.
What was the issue? I have the 21’ SDR and I have over 5k miles on it and noticed a mcu failure on a couple of occasions but that’s it. So far! I heard it’s a hit or miss with quality. Maybe the crappy ones were built on a Friday or Monday.
can pleaes make a review of the 990 superduke from 2006-2012 and compare it to this bike. it would be interesting. the 990 has "only" 120 hp but a very aggressive and raw bike
I didn't say anything about the 1200RS...oh, that's your point? Well, the 1200RS needs a little more catching up, oh, it's good but so are all the other supernakes. Give Triumph another update or two on it and it will be right with the 1000R and Tuono on a track day. But I'd say it would beat this on a track day, if I was riding it.
Had a 2002 Mille and the 2006 Tuono flat bar V2. Now have 2022 Tuono V4 both great bikes but a different animal now. So must be a fan boy. Just parted out my 21 KTM SAS for a new 890 Duke R. Rode the 1390 lovely bike, but as I have the Tuono decided to go for the light and nimble 890r. Loving it.
I owned the first gen 1290SDR for 5 years, was at the dealer 4 times and one of those times was the break-in service, the others normal service, never a problem with it. So that is my personal experience with KTM. What is yours?
@@NothingToProve MTC Error x times, broken wires because of wrong layed cable out of the factory-> hours of searching with display disco, startbutton-unit defect
@NothingToProve yeah, that was 10 years ago. Bought a 1390 and spent more time at the dealer than at home to get ist sorted out. Took months. Even had it swapped out for a brand new replacement which again had issues from the start.
These things purr around 5k rpm....its the only bike I own that 6th gear at 100mph lugs. I rarely use 6th on the freeway. I actually prefer the 1290 and the longer gearing, that engine can handle it. With the shorter gearing it is more twitchy and it is already a workout to ride in the 1290 so more power and shorter gears will force it to rely more on electronics.
I hope you don’t mind me asking about another brand that’s not in your video but you own one, so apologies in advance. I’m looking at buying my first r 1250 rt a blue 2022 sport and my question is what is the sport? I’ve looked far and wide on the internet and can’t find anything about it. The word sport is on both side cases. The prices of one of these bikes new are staggering. My local dealer has this bike and I did ask but didn’t get a clear answer.
No problem. It's just the color blue and the windshield is shorter than the normal one, about 100mm / 4 inches. That's it. But on mine I have the normal windshield. Sounds like your dealer is clueless.
@@NothingToProve thank you for your help and it’s probably about right that the dealers have no idea. From their website, just to give a little more information, that bike has 3717 miles and they are asking 22071 dollars. The pictures look good. We’ll see.
Yep, so as a supernaked, it's always been a V4. The first two gens were V2's, with BRP-Rotax motors...didn't care for them much. BUT when the V4 came out, I was a convert! 👍😊😁
pffft no way, imagine how many dirt bikers would say this with those huge suspensions, don't expect to get both feet on ground, just keep your left foot on the ground and your right foot on the peg and rear brake. also shifting your ass to the left side a bit when stopped helps to give you more reach to the ground. I had a 1290 and same thing im also 5'6 but it's easy once you get used to it.
I have no need for that kind of power. That has nothing to do with it. 😂 that being said these companies really should put more effort into passenger accommodations that cheese nip size seat is guaranteed to get this overlooked for many. There are a lot of us who have to take that into account who’s significant other isn’t a size negative zero
I don’t get why these euro manufacturers can’t build reliable bikes. Goes for cars as well. I just watch the start of the Gumball 3000 and several people having issues with their cars. Totally unacceptable from a manufacturer these days.
@@keltecdan ,way too much tech ..too much to go wrong and every component has a connection to to something else that will add to something else.. everything needs to be plugged in at a dealer and that manufacturer doesn't share their plugin with any third party..it's just another rolling road of awkward ownership.
@@stevesteve1965. I agree. Way too many sensors. Electrical issues due to faulty connectors and if the battery isn’t fully charged or if one faulty sensors goes bad it will cause the whole ECU to glitch and freak out. I do miss the simple times.
Great video ... only problem with KTM (Keep Throwing Money at it) is the cam's they seem to be made of chocolate or tissue paper it vibrates like a woman night time toy, lol .... I'll keep my bmw R1250R
I don’t get why these euro manufacturers can’t build reliable bikes. Goes for cars as well. I just watch the start of the Gumball 3000 and several people having issues with their cars. Totally unacceptable from a manufacturer these days.
Nothing wrong with the cams... you are referring to the 790/890 KTMs. And it is total BS about the vibrating - you obviously have never ridden one... My 2nd one and ZERO issues. Gen 2 did 30000km and my Gen 3 is on 12000... Get off your Vespa and ride one of these!!
The LC8 V is a pretty well developed platform now. Just don't ever think it will be Honda XR125 bombproof. The early LC8c Duke (parallel twin) had a LOT of issues. The current fuss around the cams seems to have been traced to misaligned cross drilling for the oil feed, starving the cams of adequate oil flow. KTM's response to the matter has been disappointing to say the least. These bikes should have all been recalled for an engine swap, not a cam inspection at the owner's expense (😮), with experiences covered only if there's a problem.
bikes like these are pointless. 99% of the time you only twist half- or quarter-throttle, which means you ride it like you would a 80-100hp bike. yeah you can do a full-on pull once or twice... a year. but in 2nd gear if you let it rip you re already doing twice the speed limit. very limited use case, an exercise in futility, marketing and lack of experience selling motorcycles more than actual use cases. like an expensive car, something to show off, to pose, not to actually use. superficial
@@kwakithailand Last time I rode my Tiger 900 in the high mountains 2 up the bike struggles to pull 60. It was probably due to the climb and the high altitude air
After owning 78 bikes this is the best fun I have ever owned. And its my 2nd one! Never had any issues! Awesome torque, handling (twisties king!), brakes etc. And very comfortable too!
Well done KTM CEO...
Nice video. The Tuono by the way did start its life as a V2.
Yepp. I own the 1st gen which still runs like a charm (only has 27k miles on it). On the road it's still enough (320 mm brake disks and brembo calipers) even without any electronics other than fuel injection.
Only 5 minutes on the Autobahn? C’mon Scott, we ride 120 km/h on nakeds all day! 😂
🤣🤣😉
Thanks for this video Scott! As a first gen Tuono rider this is on my wish list because I like beefy V2s.
On the other hand a 1100 Tuono V4, a Speed Triple and a MT-10 would be nice alternatives.
Thanks for the Evo info. From 1 present Gen.1 owner to another . What a bike . Just had new Dunlop hoops and OEM battery installed. Don't think I could ever part with that motorcycle. Maybe because the 1st owner knew how to mod. a bike . Has all the goodies. Thanks again .
Great review,maybe the tech is leading and performance is exciting for the price but the looks and style of it only from the front only mother could love...
Had MASSIVE Quality issues with my 1390, which took months to repair. Even had it swapped out by the dealer for a replacement bike, also brand new which again had issues.
Unacceptable at this price point.
ktm stock dropped for a reason
What was the issue? I have the 21’ SDR and I have over 5k miles on it and noticed a mcu failure on a couple of occasions but that’s it. So far! I heard it’s a hit or miss with quality. Maybe the crappy ones were built on a Friday or Monday.
Wow - what a bike. Outstanding.
can pleaes make a review of the 990 superduke from 2006-2012 and compare it to this bike. it would be interesting. the 990 has "only" 120 hp but a very aggressive and raw bike
Great review, Scott. No love for the Speed Triple 1200 RS? That’s right up there for me in the Super Naked category.
I didn't say anything about the 1200RS...oh, that's your point? Well, the 1200RS needs a little more catching up, oh, it's good but so are all the other supernakes. Give Triumph another update or two on it and it will be right with the 1000R and Tuono on a track day. But I'd say it would beat this on a track day, if I was riding it.
very good review
Tuono always a v4...spoke a little too fast there buddy😂. Love the videos.
Yea, only the "die-hard" Tuono fanboys will catch that incorrect statement. 🤣😊
Had a 2002 Mille and the 2006 Tuono flat bar V2. Now have 2022 Tuono V4 both great bikes but a different animal now. So must be a fan boy. Just parted out my 21 KTM SAS for a new 890 Duke R. Rode the 1390 lovely bike, but as I have the Tuono decided to go for the light and nimble 890r. Loving it.
Not at all my kind of bike but you did a great review!
Ktm... own one and you will see your mechanic more then one time per year for service. So, a nice bike to meet people 😉
Own one and you will probably spend more time with the mechanic than your wife.
I owned the first gen 1290SDR for 5 years, was at the dealer 4 times and one of those times was the break-in service, the others normal service, never a problem with it. So that is my personal experience with KTM. What is yours?
@@NothingToProve MTC Error x times, broken wires because of wrong layed cable out of the factory-> hours of searching with display disco, startbutton-unit defect
@@u.g.6340 Bummer! Looks like you need to get the one I had, gen 1, gen 2 & 3 is where KTM ran into many quality problems.
@NothingToProve yeah, that was 10 years ago. Bought a 1390 and spent more time at the dealer than at home to get ist sorted out. Took months. Even had it swapped out for a brand new replacement which again had issues from the start.
These things purr around 5k rpm....its the only bike I own that 6th gear at 100mph lugs. I rarely use 6th on the freeway. I actually prefer the 1290 and the longer gearing, that engine can handle it. With the shorter gearing it is more twitchy and it is already a workout to ride in the 1290 so more power and shorter gears will force it to rely more on electronics.
I hope you don’t mind me asking about another brand that’s not in your video but you own one, so apologies in advance. I’m looking at buying my first r 1250 rt a blue 2022 sport and my question is what is the sport? I’ve looked far and wide on the internet and can’t find anything about it. The word sport is on both side cases. The prices of one of these bikes new are staggering. My local dealer has this bike and I did ask but didn’t get a clear answer.
No problem. It's just the color blue and the windshield is shorter than the normal one, about 100mm / 4 inches. That's it. But on mine I have the normal windshield. Sounds like your dealer is clueless.
@@NothingToProve thank you for your help and it’s probably about right that the dealers have no idea. From their website, just to give a little more information, that bike has 3717 miles and they are asking 22071 dollars. The pictures look good. We’ll see.
Woot
No Scott Tuono was originally a V2 before the term supernaked was coined.
Yep, so as a supernaked, it's always been a V4. The first two gens were V2's, with BRP-Rotax motors...didn't care for them much. BUT when the V4 came out, I was a convert! 👍😊😁
Is the camshaft made of cheese on this model to??
My exact interrogation too...
Referring to 790/890!
Looking forward to the new SAS review. 2025 I guess.
Thank you, yea that will be next year 😊
Theres a lot going on at KTMs owners
At 5’6 I’m too short for this bike.
pffft no way, imagine how many dirt bikers would say this with those huge suspensions, don't expect to get both feet on ground, just keep your left foot on the ground and your right foot on the peg and rear brake. also shifting your ass to the left side a bit when stopped helps to give you more reach to the ground. I had a 1290 and same thing im also 5'6 but it's easy once you get used to it.
@@baconbaconbobacon I’m spoiled on my sfv650. I can get both feet on the ground.
It's a KTM be worried.
Cool, but crazy bike. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
I have no need for that kind of power. That has nothing to do with it. 😂 that being said these companies really should put more effort into passenger accommodations that cheese nip size seat is guaranteed to get this overlooked for many. There are a lot of us who have to take that into account who’s significant other isn’t a size negative zero
Great review as always, but that is one ugly bike....
Ugliest headlight in bike history. No wonder KTM is going down.
Your so crazy! Got to gain some taste, bru
You probably can't draw and most who can't draw will have this opinion
@@JHRUSMC Oh I see. it reminds you of your mom.
@@costofexpansebrain8025 At least i don't have your taste.
@@iloveitall Nope, close tho. Reminds me of your mom!
Until it goes wrong...and it will, not if but when.
I don’t get why these euro manufacturers can’t build reliable bikes. Goes for cars as well. I just watch the start of the Gumball 3000 and several people having issues with their cars. Totally unacceptable from a manufacturer these days.
Experience speaks 😂
@@keltecdan ,way too much tech ..too much to go wrong and every component has a connection to to something else that will add to something else.. everything needs to be plugged in at a dealer and that manufacturer doesn't share their plugin with any third party..it's just another rolling road of awkward ownership.
@@GreenRider217 😆😉
@@stevesteve1965. I agree. Way too many sensors. Electrical issues due to faulty connectors and if the battery isn’t fully charged or if one faulty sensors goes bad it will cause the whole ECU to glitch and freak out. I do miss the simple times.
Luxury brand of CF Moto 🤔😁
Not this model, still built in Austria but who knows for how long🤔
@@paul.vanhout57you sure? Most materials come from foreign countries and just assembled in EU to get the "made in xyz" label...
@@NinjaTTT- True statement. My comment more about assembly
But why it even exists these days?!? ;-)
Why shouldn't it?
Too brutal😂 Duke 890 much better road bike ✊🔥
Agreed 👍
Great video ... only problem with KTM (Keep Throwing Money at it) is the cam's they seem to be made of chocolate or tissue paper it vibrates like a woman night time toy, lol ....
I'll keep my bmw R1250R
I don’t get why these euro manufacturers can’t build reliable bikes. Goes for cars as well. I just watch the start of the Gumball 3000 and several people having issues with their cars. Totally unacceptable from a manufacturer these days.
Nothing wrong with the cams... you are referring to the 790/890 KTMs. And it is total BS about the vibrating - you obviously have never ridden one... My 2nd one and ZERO issues. Gen 2 did 30000km and my Gen 3 is on 12000... Get off your Vespa and ride one of these!!
The LC8 V is a pretty well developed platform now.
Just don't ever think it will be Honda XR125 bombproof.
The early LC8c Duke (parallel twin) had a LOT of issues.
The current fuss around the cams seems to have been traced to misaligned cross drilling for the oil feed, starving the cams of adequate oil flow.
KTM's response to the matter has been disappointing to say the least.
These bikes should have all been recalled for an engine swap, not a cam inspection at the owner's expense (😮), with experiences covered only if there's a problem.
bikes like these are pointless. 99% of the time you only twist half- or quarter-throttle, which means you ride it like you would a 80-100hp bike. yeah you can do a full-on pull once or twice... a year. but in 2nd gear if you let it rip you re already doing twice the speed limit. very limited use case, an exercise in futility, marketing and lack of experience selling motorcycles more than actual use cases. like an expensive car, something to show off, to pose, not to actually use. superficial
its a more or less niche segment. You dont have the need for it doesnt mean its pointless. Also you must be fun at parties
Because you can mate so why not
For those living and riding 2up in the mountains the simple rule is:
Power is never too much.
@@kwakithailand Last time I rode my Tiger 900 in the high mountains 2 up the bike struggles to pull 60. It was probably due to the climb and the high altitude air
@@LiviuXSA how ironic replayed to your comment get home from work check post guess what I’ve been caught speeding 🤣😢