I’ve owned the 696, 821, 1200 Monsters. I recently traded my 1200 in for my first Multistrada, the 1260S. I can honestly say that it was the right decision for me. The Monsters, at my ripe old age of 59, was a true monster for my body. I couldn’t handle the power and wind that comes with a naked like the Monster 1200. It had to go……. Now that I’ve been enjoying my new found love affair with the bike I tend to also start looking at the next installment a few years down the road. From what I’ve seen in the video my first impressions are that this will be my next, and probably last bike I purchase. It’ll be my fifth Ducati. I can honestly say that after owning a lot of motorcycles in my life, I’ll never buy another brand. Can’t wait for you to get your hands on this bike for the first time and the review.
I have a 2023 Pikes Peak and IMO, it is better than the GS in every category, especially the engine. Its super comfy in Urban mode and a beast in Sport mode! I had a GS and an RT previously and like my Pikes Peak better.
I think it's interesting that you give credit to BMW for ride height lowering, but they introduced that as a reaction to what Harley was doing with the Pan Am.
lovely looking bike..prob even the best looking bike at the moment !!! and for my own reasons as i never got on with it (current model) during the test ride i bought the new GS1300 ..
Had a test ride on 1300 and finally yesterday did a test ride on v4s. IMHO bmw is soooo much behind v4s... That engine is great, 0 vibrations, buttery smooth ride, tons of torque. BMW is good when you want "tank" kind of bike but v4s is just a beautiful beast so fun to ride. I did order updated version of v4s, she'll be ready in 3-4 months :)
Here in Australia there’s the BMW GS guys with their $1400 adventure BMW jackets 😅.. the KTM adventure guys at the other end of the coffee shop stop overs , with their top of the range all white adventure boots 😅, then every now and then you see the multistrada and triumph clans , we mere peasants are snickered at from behind the latte glasses as we pull up on our Hondas and Versys budget bikes 😊 But strange how many used multistradas are lined up at Ducati dealers with minimum kms and not a scratch on them . Hondas and kawasakis may be cheaper , but we clock up the miles , without tow trucks on standby . Forget it I am just jealous and scowl at the posers from my mug of flat white, dreaming of a red and blue GS 900😂
there's not much info on this engine regarding reliability, sure it has 36k miles valve check but is there any actual v4 with that milleage in the first place?
Hahaha yep jealousy is a curse 😅. I have mates with thev4 and zero problems, one has 105,000kms with no issues and that v4 engine is the best I've ridden...out performs the gs and handles better, and looks are subjective but imo looks 100 times nicer than a gs
@@adamlee9071 There is no doubt that you will like Multi. Someone accepts the price or not. I don't have to and wouldn't pay that price for this motorcycle. Another thing is that the engine is really hot in the butt, but the owners don't talk about it. I have a new big Versys, and I feel very comfortable with it. I won't switch to Multi for many reasons. Have a wide road :-)
Ducati has truly hit peak tech and refinement with this bike. Downside, having to repair it. I like tech in my bikes but this and the 1300 GS are just to complicated and repair costs are going to be so high that eventually the bikes can become mechanically totaled.
Its a pity they removed the offroad riding mode from the Pikes Peak. I'm seriously looking at the 2025 PP, and as a comsumer I would expect the bike to have all riding models, being top of line, and I could just change rims / tyres if I wanted to do more off-road / trail riding, however they've just taken the option away from the consumer entirely.
I would have said that I’d still go for my GS1250 that I bought in Aug 2023 BUT over a year later i’m still waiting for the second key and for over 6 months Ive been waiting for a replacement head unit as it doesn’t power the nav6/Sat nav cradle thing. I can see why BMW Motorad need a 3 year warranty! I would have traded in for the 1300GS by now but i’m having second thoughts if it’s so difficult even getting warranty parts for the well established 1250😢
@@astrofeeder777 I had a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer and got rid of it after 2 months. I could not stand the vibration that was coming through the bars. It was a fantastic bike and actually does a lot of things better than my GSA. I just couldn't live with the vibration. I rode a 2024 GT Explorer last week and the vibration issue has been addressed and I would buy that bike as well. I would make sure the 900 doesn't have the vibration issue unless it just doesn't bother you.
Long time Triumph owner who's ridden all the old & new T plane motor Tigers, I find they still vibrate far too much for me, they feel nothing like the previous gloriously smooth 120 triples 😢 As a progressive road rider I adore my V4S Multi more as it's a far nicer, smoother, quicker, better handling bike period 😂 The minimal interim model changes to the V4S for 2025 don't make me want to rush out & upgrade. I do love the way Ducati roll out the software upgrades to existing bikes at service time that come with a 4 year warranty, 9k service intervals & 60000 km valve service intervals 👍
@@Nell1052 I rode a V4s last month at my dealership and loved it. The only thing I can't live with is the heat coming off the engine. My ass was on fire. Do they always run that hot?
Automatic ride height on the rear only is pointless because the nose of the seat hardly moves, so the reach to the ground changes very little. So both ends or don’t bother.
I’ve the r1300GS option 719, priced right there with the V4S, it’s a hell of a bike and honestly wicked quick, would I need more? Not really. The GS lowers front and rear suspension, this does just the rear which I don’t think is as effective (for really short inseams like mine that’s important), plus still no shaft….but I love Ducs and one hopes it’ll sound appropriate. I have the Akrapovic exhaust on my 1300, looks great, sounds nothing special.
1:00 I have a 21 V4s and a buddy with a 22 AT and the Honda has more bass than I do. Im faster no doubt but to your point the sound could be far better.
Really cool tech but wow it’s very complicated. Can’t imagine the random Ducati mechanic at dealer will be able to expertly diagnose issues for ALL systems.
Motobob the gs is not the first or the only one to come out with adaptive ride height Harley did it first and still better than any response that other manufacturers have had until the GS came out level on the playing field
Thank God i`m i love with my Multistrada 1000 DS. All this modern modes are as we know betwin the throttle and your brain.😂 More and more connected to garage visites 🤨
If you need the bike to warn you of an impending front collision then you probably shouldn't be riding the bike. That's just expensive and unneeded fluff.
I own the first generation V4s Full, I adore it in every way. The chain rusts like mad if you don't permanently clean and lube it. Let's hope they put a better chain on the new bike. My only complaint, it's done 25000 miles though. 😊
Price of the bike + price of service + price of parts + price of insurance ..... And - what do u get ??!! - Ye +/- a nice bike, but unless u are immensely stuffed with 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰- buy something else 🤷♂🤷♂
Hahaha,honestly they aren't that bad for serv8etc,it's only parts if u drop it is when costs come into play...I compared pikes peak with gs and its pretty much same same,everyone who doesn't ride a ducati says this lol
Basically a good, rapid, versatile bike, buried under a galaxy of intrusive, needless, nanny tech and still plagued by a face only its mother could love. And we know what its mother looked like... The pointless tech justifies the extortionate price. Forward collision warning?? Seriously...
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 Key qualifier is 'retard mode ', Also my context is UK in which most 'tours' are not single speed for 150 miles. Loads of accelerating and breaking. Plenty of cruise control at 100.
No it's not a terrible choice,the panigale has double sided cause that's literally what their track bikes have and it works...a pikes peak isn't a track bike,the swing arm makes the pikes peak look better and it's a ducati thing
@@adamlee9071 Yeah I know, but you know what? Fuck that Ducati thing.. It’s over and eventually all Ducatis will have double swing arms like most bikes does..
They all do this auto lowering shit wrong. It needs to default to low mode when the bike is off. It should come with the correct lowered kickstand accordingly. It's nice that they lower when slowing I guess, if you're not off road and it kills your ground clearance as you're trying to hop over a tree trunk. That aside, the hard part of tall bikes is getting them off the kickstand, particularly if you have a passenger on board or the ground you're parked on is angled to the right. THIS is when the bike MUST BE in the low mode. Aside from that, the bike looks pretty good aside from the footpeg placement. All wrong. Look at the angle of the rider's knees. No bueno. It would be wonderful if these mfgs would hire a few motorcyclists who could help them get this shit right. Ducati, please see the footpeg placement on the Moto Guzzi V85TT and fix this to match that and your customers who actually travel will kiss and hug you.
🤔I guess this is their way of saying that the MS will never go back to a 17" front wheel/tyre in the base model . . . ? 👌😒Very well, I'll look somewhere else.✌
7:40 OH, my god. Some of us ride fast and have no issues with proximity with other riders cars or trucks. THIS would drive me nuts. It would be going off and I've had it drive the brakes in cars which put me in a very unfortunate position of having your speed cut when you need it most. POS safety crap. Id elect to toss that in the trash. Im not paying for that!
10:40 They go through all this and neglect to put the Panigale stock 208hp mill in? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Just put that in tweak it a bit for "heft" and la la. DONE!
Prices: the standard V4 is £17,695, the V4 S is £21,495, and the new Pikes Peak is £27,795... ouch!
I have the v4 full sport with race system, just specked it up with the same goodies and it’s now £30k plus 😱
@@gregorybigg8924specked 😂
@@gpzfan5272 I know damn autocorrect 😂😂
@@motobob the pikes peak is in a class of its own,so good :)
I’ve owned the 696, 821, 1200 Monsters. I recently traded my 1200 in for my first Multistrada, the 1260S. I can honestly say that it was the right decision for me. The Monsters, at my ripe old age of 59, was a true monster for my body. I couldn’t handle the power and wind that comes with a naked like the Monster 1200. It had to go…….
Now that I’ve been enjoying my new found love affair with the bike I tend to also start looking at the next installment a few years down the road. From what I’ve seen in the video my first impressions are that this will be my next, and probably last bike I purchase. It’ll be my fifth Ducati. I can honestly say that after owning a lot of motorcycles in my life, I’ll never buy another brand. Can’t wait for you to get your hands on this bike for the first time and the review.
I've heard nothing but amazing things about the Multistrada's!
I have a 2023 Pikes Peak and IMO, it is better than the GS in every category, especially the engine. Its super comfy in Urban mode and a beast in Sport mode! I had a GS and an RT previously and like my Pikes Peak better.
Awesome bike,they look heaps better than gs too
And another bike I can't afford!
Try Tracer 9gt/plus is more affordable
Previous gen Pikes Peak will be discounted
Same as you can’t afford Lambo or Ferrari 😂
Pikes Peak needs to get Marc Marquez approved ❤
Got the 72 plate v4s full and honestly it’s criminal how fast it makes progress
10:10 Coming from a 21 V4S owner I like the looks of the new one. Well done.
I think it's interesting that you give credit to BMW for ride height lowering, but they introduced that as a reaction to what Harley was doing with the Pan Am.
Ty!
The difference is BMW were the first to lower the bike automatically at both ends, and that's why he draws that parralel.
No map interface update? The Sygic map software 100% sucks, why not Apple Car Play or Android Auto?
I would never consider an upgrade until they fix the mapping software. It is a joke how Ducati is ignoring the world for this issue.
Looking forward to the changes on the V2S….
I'll take this over the GS any day. Rode both, bought the ducati
The 1260 enduro remains my biggest love!
lovely looking bike..prob even the best looking bike at the moment !!! and for my own reasons as i never got on with it (current model) during the test ride i bought the new GS1300 ..
Curious what led you to the gs, im torn between the 2 atm
I will stand for the Ducati Multistrada V4S, because I love the Design + the V4-Engine more, than the Boxer-Engine on the BMW R 1300 GS.
It definitely feels more exciting to ride :)
100% right
Had a test ride on 1300 and finally yesterday did a test ride on v4s. IMHO bmw is soooo much behind v4s... That engine is great, 0 vibrations, buttery smooth ride, tons of torque. BMW is good when you want "tank" kind of bike but v4s is just a beautiful beast so fun to ride. I did order updated version of v4s, she'll be ready in 3-4 months :)
I’ve the STV4s in grey. 2023 model.
I agree re sound. The SF is SO LOUD , was no reason the Multi couldn’t be.
Perfect bike!
Here in Australia there’s the BMW GS guys with their $1400 adventure BMW jackets 😅.. the KTM adventure guys at the other end of the coffee shop stop overs , with their top of the range all white adventure boots 😅, then every now and then you see the multistrada and triumph clans , we mere peasants are snickered at from behind the latte glasses as we pull up on our Hondas and Versys budget bikes 😊
But strange how many used multistradas are lined up at Ducati dealers with minimum kms and not a scratch on them .
Hondas and kawasakis may be cheaper , but we clock up the miles , without tow trucks on standby .
Forget it I am just jealous and scowl at the posers from my mug of flat white, dreaming of a red and blue GS 900😂
there's not much info on this engine regarding reliability, sure it has 36k miles valve check but is there any actual v4 with that milleage in the first place?
Hahaha yep jealousy is a curse 😅.
I have mates with thev4 and zero problems, one has 105,000kms with no issues and that v4 engine is the best I've ridden...out performs the gs and handles better, and looks are subjective but imo looks 100 times nicer than a gs
Its mostly baby bloomers buying a ducati they have always wanted and realise it's too fast for them hahaha
@@adamlee9071 There is no doubt that you will like Multi. Someone accepts the price or not. I don't have to and wouldn't pay that price for this motorcycle. Another thing is that the engine is really hot in the butt, but the owners don't talk about it. I have a new big Versys, and I feel very comfortable with it. I won't switch to Multi for many reasons. Have a wide road :-)
I think you’ll find the Multistrada is more reliable than the GS
Ducati has truly hit peak tech and refinement with this bike.
Downside, having to repair it. I like tech in my bikes but this and the 1300 GS are just to complicated and repair costs are going to be so high that eventually the bikes can become mechanically totaled.
Its a pity they removed the offroad riding mode from the Pikes Peak. I'm seriously looking at the 2025 PP, and as a comsumer I would expect the bike to have all riding models, being top of line, and I could just change rims / tyres if I wanted to do more off-road / trail riding, however they've just taken the option away from the consumer entirely.
They could have left it completely alone and just made the navigation work and it would have been enough. Literally
Good videos👍
Come on mr Bob, give us some news on new kawasakis for 2025!! Ninja and z1100 maybe?? 👍
I love my 23 v4 rally , miss my gs though 🤷
Miss it why? multi rally is better , no?
If I was in the market for a big adventure bike I think I'd go for the super adventure.
Good innovations and upgrades, but not sure about the graphics of the Pikes Peak...
yeah keeping my 22
Beautiful video man ❤❤❤❤❤❤😍👍❤️❤️❤️👌♥️🔥🔥🌹🌹🌹🌹😎
I think the title should say "New 2025..."
I would have said that I’d still go for my GS1250 that I bought in Aug 2023 BUT over a year later i’m still waiting for the second key and for over 6 months Ive been waiting for a replacement head unit as it doesn’t power the nav6/Sat nav cradle thing.
I can see why BMW Motorad need a 3 year warranty! I would have traded in for the 1300GS by now but i’m having second thoughts if it’s so difficult even getting warranty parts for the well established 1250😢
You did not state if the IOS and the navigation issues have been fixed?
My 2023 GSA should be nervous
your 2023 gsa is a lot more reliable, almost got one myself but im getting a tiger 900 instead.
@@astrofeeder777 I had a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer and got rid of it after 2 months. I could not stand the vibration that was coming through the bars. It was a fantastic bike and actually does a lot of things better than my GSA. I just couldn't live with the vibration. I rode a 2024 GT Explorer last week and the vibration issue has been addressed and I would buy that bike as well. I would make sure the 900 doesn't have the vibration issue unless it just doesn't bother you.
Long time Triumph owner who's ridden all the old & new T plane motor Tigers, I find they still vibrate far too much for me, they feel nothing like the previous gloriously smooth 120 triples 😢 As a progressive road rider I adore my V4S Multi more as it's a far nicer, smoother, quicker, better handling bike period 😂 The minimal interim model changes to the V4S for 2025 don't make me want to rush out & upgrade. I do love the way Ducati roll out the software upgrades to existing bikes at service time that come with a 4 year warranty, 9k service intervals & 60000 km valve service intervals 👍
@@Nell1052 I rode a V4s last month at my dealership and loved it. The only thing I can't live with is the heat coming off the engine. My ass was on fire. Do they always run that hot?
@@astrofeeder777more reliable? 105kms no problems,mates with higher kms than mine too,no problems
Automatic ride height on the rear only is pointless because the nose of the seat hardly moves, so the reach to the ground changes very little. So both ends or don’t bother.
I think Ducati should have a 400cc sportbike.
Lol,very contradictive...sports bike with a 400 engine lol,nothing sporty about a slow bike
I’ve the r1300GS option 719, priced right there with the V4S, it’s a hell of a bike and honestly wicked quick, would I need more? Not really. The GS lowers front and rear suspension, this does just the rear which I don’t think is as effective (for really short inseams like mine that’s important), plus still no shaft….but I love Ducs and one hopes it’ll sound appropriate. I have the Akrapovic exhaust on my 1300, looks great, sounds nothing special.
I want a 2025 Pikes Peak to run around Las Vegas~
Optional shaft drive.
1300 GSA FTW
I would go with a R1250GS or GSA!
Gs All day for me
1:00 I have a 21 V4s and a buddy with a 22 AT and the Honda has more bass than I do. Im faster no doubt but to your point the sound could be far better.
Definitely prefer Ducati over BMW no question
Really cool tech but wow it’s very complicated. Can’t imagine the random Ducati mechanic at dealer will be able to expertly diagnose issues for ALL systems.
Just add apple CarPlay man.. thats all I’m asking.
Any 19” front wheel Multi over GS; but S1000XR over Pikes Peak Multi.
S1000xr is nowhere near being close to pikes peak…
Motobob the gs is not the first or the only one to come out with adaptive ride height Harley did it first and still better than any response that other manufacturers have had until the GS came out level on the playing field
TY!
So far, Ducati corporation isn't woke.
Each year bikes are getting more and more expensive..
Thank God i`m i love with my Multistrada 1000 DS. All this modern modes are as we know betwin the throttle and your brain.😂
More and more connected to garage visites 🤨
If you need the bike to warn you of an impending front collision then you probably shouldn't be riding the bike. That's just expensive and unneeded fluff.
Great but lots of Tecs for a bike .... But anyways good bike
Looks like they didn't fix this bikes biggest problem, the high fuel consumption!
Cylinder deactivation sucks 😔
And why is that?
At 20.37, Surprised how a milli meter increase can cause that much change in behaviour of bike is outstanding 😁
So much tech so expensive to fix. Just too much crap. Pass
I own the first generation V4s Full, I adore it in every way. The chain rusts like mad if you don't permanently clean and lube it. Let's hope they put a better chain on the new bike. My only complaint, it's done 25000 miles though. 😊
A Scottoiler X System chain oiler on my V4S saves me having to faff with my chain 😅
Price of the bike + price of service + price of parts + price of insurance ..... And - what do u get ??!! - Ye +/- a nice bike, but unless u are immensely stuffed with 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰- buy something else 🤷♂🤷♂
Hahaha,honestly they aren't that bad for serv8etc,it's only parts if u drop it is when costs come into play...I compared pikes peak with gs and its pretty much same same,everyone who doesn't ride a ducati says this lol
In 20 years time it will be as easy to repair as a 20 year old laptop. Do we really need all this non-mechanical tech?
Basically a good, rapid, versatile bike, buried under a galaxy of intrusive, needless, nanny tech and still plagued by a face only its mother could love. And we know what its mother looked like... The pointless tech justifies the extortionate price. Forward collision warning?? Seriously...
What kills this bike for me is the fuel range. I don't mind bad MPG, but at least give me a tank that will do 150 miles of retard mode touring.
My pikes peak does 200 freeway miles just fine
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 Key qualifier is 'retard mode
', Also my context is UK in which most 'tours' are not single speed for 150 miles. Loads of accelerating and breaking. Plenty of cruise control at 100.
@@volodymyrshoniia2424at what speed? In western USA traffic on freeways run 80-90mph.
@@diyeveryday67 salt lake area
If Yamaha could improve the MT-10, Ducati should be able to improve the V4.
For me. The looks of Multistrada is not my taste at all. Overall look is ok, but the beak with giant nose hole is the thing that sore my eye the most.
So much tech to go wrong. The bike still sounds wimpy.
If the new panigale has doubled swing arm why the made the pikes version with a single one.. Terrible choice..
No it's not a terrible choice,the panigale has double sided cause that's literally what their track bikes have and it works...a pikes peak isn't a track bike,the swing arm makes the pikes peak look better and it's a ducati thing
@@adamlee9071 Yeah I know, but you know what? Fuck that Ducati thing.. It’s over and eventually all Ducatis will have double swing arms like most bikes does..
@@dariocp87 whatever ya reckon
To much tech, you don't need most of it. Italian manufacturer with this much tech = more can go wrong, just like BMW
Sounds like a bunch of BS to fail and cost 3k in sensors alone. I'm shopping for a PP. I guess I need to buy the 2024 model sooner than later
The electronics isn't what fails on Ducatis, it is the engine and other mechanical bits ALWAYS!
All you have to do is sell your first born to afford it.
They all do this auto lowering shit wrong. It needs to default to low mode when the bike is off. It should come with the correct lowered kickstand accordingly. It's nice that they lower when slowing I guess, if you're not off road and it kills your ground clearance as you're trying to hop over a tree trunk. That aside, the hard part of tall bikes is getting them off the kickstand, particularly if you have a passenger on board or the ground you're parked on is angled to the right. THIS is when the bike MUST BE in the low mode.
Aside from that, the bike looks pretty good aside from the footpeg placement. All wrong. Look at the angle of the rider's knees. No bueno. It would be wonderful if these mfgs would hire a few motorcyclists who could help them get this shit right. Ducati, please see the footpeg placement on the Moto Guzzi V85TT and fix this to match that and your customers who actually travel will kiss and hug you.
Too much electronic…not sure if that is worth anymore…
Way too complicated.
🤔I guess this is their way of saying that the MS will never go back to a 17" front wheel/tyre in the base model . . . ?
👌😒Very well, I'll look somewhere else.✌
I like Ducatis but these are hideous like they’ve been squashed bet they’re great to ride ..but no for me
Big, tall and heavy. I'm out.
7:40 OH, my god. Some of us ride fast and have no issues with proximity with other riders cars or trucks. THIS would drive me nuts. It would be going off and I've had it drive the brakes in cars which put me in a very unfortunate position of having your speed cut when you need it most. POS safety crap. Id elect to toss that in the trash. Im not paying for that!
It can likely be turned off like it is on the 1300 GS.
10:40 They go through all this and neglect to put the Panigale stock 208hp mill in? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Just put that in tweak it a bit for "heft" and la la. DONE!
They did that with the RS model which costs as much as a mid shelf sports car.