Holzfforma G660 92cc chainsaw. What has gone bad after 6 months of use.
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- Just a new guy trying to get the hang of videos with limited video equipment and limited knowledge of the video equipment. This video was not a full review. Just the things that have gone wrong with my saw after 6 months of use.Yes it has only had 8 to 12 tanks of fuel through it. It is running better now than it did when it was new. A full review is coming along with reviews on other saws. I have a few saws on hand that need repairs. So hopefully we will be able to cover those in upcoming videos. Any questions drop it in the comments and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Since this video was made my videos have got better. Check out some of my other videos. Make sure to subscribe it doesn't cost you a thing.
Buddy that carb. mount binding fix is solid gold. Good looking out for others man. well done.
I like your ownership of mistakes. Not many people do that
I bought a G372 and the little Joncutter puppy. The 372 has 50+ tanks through it and it hasn't given me many issues aside from hard starting during break in, the compression release doesn't help so I've learned it's better to start without it.. The muffler bolts like to rattle loose, so they need high temp Loctite. The muffler came wide open, not restricted, and it even had a little pipe coming off of it. It's wearing a 28" bar and has plenty of power in two foot Ponderosa Pine.
The Joncutter has easily 100 tanks through it, as I'm a Chainsaw Carver and it has run like a top. I really like the little guy. I also want to say that the Chinese chain is phenomenal, I just don't know how it holds an edge like it does. Frankly, I wasn't expecting these results, I was afraid the saws would blow up,in no time, but so far so good, even running standard 91 Octane, which in California has ethanol.
Thanks for the great video. The tip for fixing the carburetor binding problem is worth the time to watch this.
Looks like a good back up saw. I've had an STIHL MS291 for 3 years and have done absolutely nothing other than change the chain. I even use ethanol fuel and it cranks up every time. Let it sit up for almost a year and it still fired up. Good Video!
Thomas Whitten That’s because you got a bad ass saw made by a bad ass company good decision
I just have a MS 250. I have ran ethanol fuel in since day one (2010). Last summer (2021) decided to run non ethanol in it. It doesn’t like it very much.
I'm just going to give you a suggestion as a chainsaw mechanic you can replace that I pump with the stihl MS 660 oil pump and your problem will be solve it's not the oil is the problem those oil pump give problem after a a Time just replace it with the OEM oil pump
That is really good advice. THANK YOU
Nice video. Have about 25-30 tanks through the 660. Think I'm going to go over all the bolts as a safety check. 10-12 of the tanks were milling hickory and maple logs. So far so good. Recoil start is a little sloppy, and once in a while she seems to flood on first start. Almost think fuel is getting into carb when on its side filling it up. Again good presentation well done!
@ Truegrit Scott thank you. Hopefully my videos are getting a bit better. I have been looking at the chainsaw mills. But I've got enough project ideas going already. Thank you for stopping by too.
I use cheapest bar oil and cheap 2 stroke oil too
Never have a issues with oilers
Sounds like you need to source a OEM oil pump
All stihls factory have nuts on the outside of the Dawgs
Great review. I just placed my order last week. Great work brother. ☀️❤️🔥🦾 keep them videos coming .!!!
An honest vijayo. Warms my old heart. Suggestion. My newest saw, circa 1990's, drinks 70-1 amsoil ethanol free as does all the others in the fleet. Cut starting & running problems in half. Mechanical another story. You will find that less oil makes for longer life. Counterintuitive, but with me, true. 2 cents worth. Thanks
Vero, i motori dovrebbero girare con la minima quantità di olio possibile, prima di grippare: con gli olii sintetici si puo miscelare all'1%, quindi in teoria gia 50:1 non è poco
Forty or so years ago I had a Stihl 041 Farm Boss. Stihl recommended 32:1 mix. I accidentally filled it up with 40:1. It gave up the ghost after one tank. Best saw I ever had. Wish they still made them.
@@billbrown5853Synthetic vs conventional 2 cycle is an apples to oranges comparison. I use 2 cycle fuel daily. IMO if you're not willing to run a leaner ratio than 50:1 you're wasting your time and money with synthetic. It's harder to start, runs poorly, carbons up, fouls spark plugs quickly, floods easily. Best I've used is Amsoil Saber at 100:1. Gives me years of easy starts without changing spark plugs or fuel filters.
Run these commercially for years. Ours have had zero issues
Nice job Brandon. I bought mine back in NOV. I keep swapping parts out on it. At some point in time I might have been better off buying a Stihl 660. I have a 99cc big bore kit I am putting in tomorrow night. Keep up the good work.
@monster2269 sorry it took me a bit to get back to you. I've been looking at the big bore kits because I want to get the sawmill for it.
You would have been better of buying a 10 year old 660 stihl for sure andwouldnt have cost much more then the cheap china saw. Thats what I've done and just clean sharpen and flip the bar. Never have any problems at all. My saw cuts hardwood soft wood exactly the same doesn't make a difference. Just bought a new stihl combo file and the chains like new everytime I sharpen it.
I've had mine for 1 and a half now I've seen no problems with it carb adjustment and muffler mod and but forester 36inch 3/8 .063 bar and chain on starts on one pull and works like a dream but I'll be soon getting the Husqie 395 xp so little heart break but the 395 has been my really dream saw but I do have a echo cs 590 with a 36inch not recommended but muffler mod and carb adjustment and 3/8 .063 works heavenly on day to day stuff that I need so I don't break out my commercials saws
Honest review I like it
Thanks for the video. I have the same issues but have not addressed them you so now I know how to address. I did buy a new carb but just sitting on the shelf for now because I can still start china somedays:)🤪
Advice for next time carb has to be removed: separate the handle exposing the triggerlock assembly and the rod is easier to remove instead of tweaking it from the other side. Just suggesting due to helps save the jet grommet too.
@Louis VanElsacker I've learned that after about 10 times of removing the carb. Mostly just a tinkering saw. See what it has and see what it can handle.
@@brandons4802 is it worth the money? I got the ms361(built myself) big bore and love it But wanted a big saw as well.
I got a new G070 and they recommend 25:1 mix, which I’ve been doing so far, and it’s definitely not a smoke machine, yet. I plan on switching to 50:1 once I’ve run 10 tanks through it and I’m sure it’s broken in.
25:1 is good only if you use mineral oil, wich is the oil they commonly use in China; if you use synthetic oil and you mix 25:1 you are damaging your motor
Good review, great comments and answers. Thanks
liked and subscribed brother! Love seeing a guy just like me on here! LOL love it man, keep making videos
I'm guessing for half the price you're going to have to do a few things to it that you might not have to do with a Stihl
Very informative video appreciate it
Good video!
Nice job.
Hi mate i had one for 2years now an problem i have is chain tensioner 😫😫
Good video. I have used the G660 for board splitting. 30 liter gas so far I guess. I like it. I have used 3% oil on it. Its heavy work with the splitting. I have leaned it out for more speed.. Its dangerous and must be done with care. That allso dratically reduces lubrication and increases heat.. I just got the muffler gasket issue, Repaired it with exhaust gum. The exhaust came loose. That seem like a common problem? I guess my increased rpm might have caused more vibrations, I might reduse RPM again. The specs says 13500rpm, but I doubt thats wise? I will adjust with a thaco next time to find out. So far the piston and cylinder looks good. I have a fix in mind for the exhaust if this problem persist. I think about long bolts in tubes inside the muffler. That can allow some stretch to the bolts. I made a cut inside the muffler, but doubt that mod. I guess people belive in it because it makes the engine a bit leaner? And a bit louder? Its better to adjust on the carb if you want more performance. I run cheap food oil with 10-20% mineral in it and max setting on the chain oil pump. Sword and chain looks fine. I have the 24 alaskan mill from hutzel. It work great. I have a 25 inch bar. Standard angle chain. It was very easy to change the angles on the standard chain. The hutzel looks like very good value for money. But you should have an ear for the engine sound, and know what you are doing. Best regards Halvor from Norway.
So , what did you do to stop the oil slobber when off?
My holzfforma g660 carb needed cleaning a few times ran fine. Today i thought carb was gummed up. Looked inside theres a little mesh screen had saw dust clogging it. Cleaned it ran good and strong. After about 20 minutes it stalls out in middle of cut. Has fire and carb is clean and good. I notice it is harder amd harder to pull than usuall kinda like the compression is higher?? So it was hard to pull.. what gives any help is really appreciated
I bought a Holzfforma G660 a couple months ago. Cut a couple cords of firewood with it and was on about my 7th tank of fuel. Still running a rich break in mix. Saw ran great right out of the box and I was liking it. Then it suddenly seized last week. I was curious and
took it apart myself. The piston pin retaining clip broke and came out trashing the top end . The advertisement said 1 year warranty so I e-mailed Hutzl/Farmertec. I took the saw apart so I assume that kinda messes up the warranty? So far in corresponding and sending
pictures to a representative from Hutzl/Farmertec, they told me they'd send me a new cylinder kit so I can repair it myself. A new cylinder kit and they'd also give me 300 points credit on my next purchase. Come to find out 300 points is only $3.00 US, and the cylinder kit only costs $23 on their website. A credit point of their's is only .01 cent. So $27.00 is what they give me and I spend 4 hours time with all the bullcrap this thing is pitting me through?Pretty shoddy if you ask me. I doubt there will be any more purchases from them. I'm still in negotiation with them, but my new cylinder kit still hasn't been sent. I should have just put the saw back together and requested a full refund and return. If they can't even temper a circlip right and it snaps in use, what other kind of pig iron is this thing made of? Think twice before wasting your money on this chinese crap.
@bozzaa have you heard anything about the parts of warranty info?
They are supposedly sending me a new cylinder kit for me to repair it myself. And 300 points or $3.00 credit off my next purchase with Farmertech. (Big Deal?) I haven't gotten it yet though. They said they'd ship within 24 hours on Dec. 30th. So it may still be in transit. I received no tracking so who knows. Wait a few more days.
I finally got my cylinder kit delivered the other day as my warranty claim for the wrist pin clip failing and trashing the top end. The kit did NOT come with a base gasket and an e-mail sent to my seller was replied with "that gasket doesn't come with the kit." So I'm on my own for ordering the $1 gasket, but it will take a couple more weeks probably to recieve. I bought this saw from an Ebay seller called Devonosion, who claims to be a representative of a Farmertec Ebay store. But either way he was unwilling to send me the gasket, even though I am willing to fix this saw myself instead of returning the whole thing under their supposed 1 year warranty. When I get this thing going I will send updates as to what breaks next. I am also going to start my own channel for long term reviews of these saws. I had bought a G660, a G388, and 2 Husky 372XP clones. I bought the 372xp's as kits and just put my first one together but haven't tried it yet.
They don't send it with the base gasket? For aftermarket parts for the stihl and husky saws I go through Saw Again LLC "sawagain.com"
I took this cylinder kit for free and Hutzl/Farmertec figured that was their warranty obligation, but ya, their cheapskate chumps for sure.
The nuts on my stihl vibrate off as well. This is common.
Go to your local hardware and get some nylok nuts. Problem solved.
For a new channel you are very wise to use a tripod for you video. GREAT VIDEO Good luck. For fuel I use 100LL aviation fuel from the local airport. It has no ethanol.
Great video. Thank you! Thumbs up!
Out of the box, how did you break this saw in before cutting with it? Just got mine and want some guidance. Appreciate your video. Thanks
8 tanks?. One days use and you've been stripping it?.
Thanks for the review mate!
T. Waz You're welcome
I have same saw. I want to put 36 inch bar and a rip chain. What bar should i get. Any help ty
The "newest" saw I own is 30 years old. All the modern stuff is crap!
Good ole heavy saws with no power.
@@KevinBigg What do you mean no power? Are you saying the Husky 2101xp has no power? Or the 394xp? The Stihl 044 is one of the best saws ever made. Lots of power for its class. I like saws and tools with some heft to them.
288, 66, 162 and other old Husqvarna saws are seriously underpowered. Going back further in time to the Jonsered 621... just 56cc... but it pulls as hard and harder than anything but a few pro saws on the market today in that class. Poulan had the 5400 4000 3400 antivibe generation that were Excellent as well. McCullough had power to spare as did some olympiks and partner saws. Echo had some reliable models especially their John deere versions. Now I do love the ms 462 and the 500i is incredible. Husqvarna has had some misfires but the 395xp 372xp are among the best ever and a couple 5 series show promise. I just can't understand dismissing a tool because it's 30 or more years old. But it keeps the prices down on the old saws so that is great. I can't buy $1600 saws every time one goes down... many folks have way more saw than they need but can't sharpen a chain or tune a saw. If they could, they likely would find out a 55 Rancher or 61 white top at $250 max can do a great job and the $1.2k 576xp is overkill.
Great video! Thanks for posting
T&F Logging. Thank you. It's a cheap saw but it fires up and cuts. Keep coming back. Got a few ideas for the saw.
@@brandons4802 I look forward to seeing your progress on the saw. I think I may also buy one.
@T&F Logging. They aren't bad saws. $420 shipped to my door with 36inch bar and chain. I did one tree removal job in town and it had already paid for itself.
Thanks for the info, I just bought the Saul in kit form and I am aware of the carburetor sticking issue. Just a suggestion for cinematography, I would take a look at tractor check channel and pattern your videos after him. It would be better to have a Tighter shot of the saw/carburetor than an overall shot of your shop, which looks like everyone else’s. Also it’s very apparent you were staring into a monitor which is a little distracting. Thanks again.
Thank you for stopping by and watching the video. Hopefully your saw works great for you. Mine has been great besides a couple hiccups. The recording of this video and a few others were done on my phone. I have since bought a camcorder and learning editing software. Looking forward to bringing in better videos. More angles and more explanations in the videos.
Hey my friend,that saw us modeled after a still 660.you unscrew the little screw on the bottom side in the rear of the handle and you take the throttle linkage off before the carb can come off.you shouldn't pry the linkage off my friend trust me .make another video after it has been in service for a while ,I would like to see how she holds up.
Yeah if you use a tackier bar oil it won't spew out as much
My medium weight climber saw is a stihl ms250....way more ass waaay more that my wifes 50cc rancher and that's 45cv vs 50...and any other 50 cc I've had or used, that little 250 has impressed the crap out of me and got a full profile chain on it...no picco or lo pro...pulls it like no tomorrow, the 170...just feels like u really have to baby them, t435 husqy is my main climber and it's ok, I haven't gone into it or done nothing..probably wont...but ahh wish wasNT qtorq..only complaint
Good first video !
Thank you. Wasn't the greatest. Kept fumbling with words.
I agree. Great video. Good lighting, no gangster TH-cam music.
Sounds like you got a good one,, chinese stuff like are hit or miss ,
6months and you’ve done only 8-12 tanks? TBH thats only just broken in.
Loctite is your friend, use it.
Lmao other then that ,and 8 to 12 tanks of gas in 6 months !!! Lol your funny brother lol ! I love it lmao I'm rolling
Glad you enjoyed
Just got a g372 xp can’t wait to put it to work
poor Salotto !! From where
poor Salotto hopefully the saw works out good for you. Haven't run a 372 yet but heard they are hard to beat.
Brandon S yea just Ordered another one I wish they didn’t take 5/6weeks to get here tho but yea there nice They do push a 28 inch bar with authority
@@poorsalotto6108 I'm still waiting for this whole virus thing to away. I'm wanting to order 1 or 5. The 660 is great but the weight of it sucks at times climbing creek banks.
Mine just came today 👍👍 took 35 days to get here in Michigan... Awww boi she's a ripper
I'm thinking about getting this saw i want your opinion about it
I have the 440...couple years....seems good. Had the dogs get loose and I need to use less viscous oil...not stihl and its fine. I thought thec660 was bigger?
It is
Good video
Interesant
would be better if one could hear what the guy is saying.
i just came into a new one I can't get it to start for the first time out of the box ??? what am I missing.
Not trying to sound like an a@% asking this but you got good fuel? If so start with spark and see if you got that. Easiest way to check. Pull the spark out. Put it back in the coil. Hold it against the cylinder. Give it a decent pull. May have a bad coil or spark plug. If you have spark. Move on to fuel. With the air cleaner off. Pour about a teaspoon of gas through the carb. Then try firing it up. If it wants to fire you may have a pinched or broken fuel line.
Squirt a little fuel directly into the carb then start it it should take right off
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They have a new line out called joncutter
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I purchased this same saw but it wouldn't fire a lick. A friend of mine told me that the points are no good. My question to you is where can I get some parts for this?
I get my parts from Sawagain.com they are great people to work with. They have people that work on saws you can talk to. They are in Minnesota. Shipping is quick.
James Smith hey, have you checked it is or isn’t getting fuel ? The chances of it having no spark from the factory is very very slim ! These saws have electronic ignition not points too. My checks would be fuel or no fuel at the plug, spark ? If it’s getting spark and fuel but won’t fire it’s likely flooded, check the choke isn’t sticking. Very hard to diagnose over the interskreen but If it hasn’t fired it can’t be a major failure
@@brandons4802 I emailed them twice and I got no reply
@@babybullsmith001 why don't you join the Facebook group. Sometimes I think the email problem is the VPN they have to use spazzin out. (you know oppressive government and all that)
Pliers?
I still operate a old blue & white Homelite Super XL.😝
I'm sorry I haven't replied quicker. I grew up running homelite 150 automatics. I'm always on the lookout for old homelites and McCullough saws. Keep those old saws running and be safe.
Make sure you wear earplugs with those old super xl's. They bark!
Is it a good chainsaw
thinking about to buy one?
Pop open "the exhaust" - there's nothing inside. It's just a pretendey exhaust. Pop off the pull-start - it's just a pretendey pull-start. Then dive into the carb - the carbs rougher than any bears behind - even the roughest bear with the roughest behind. The jets are machined using a machete. First hint is how crap the pull-start handle is - it's majorly crap. Your knot will pull through - use a washer.. if you can still be bothered. 'cos they're chunk. Utter muck. Every time I pick the POS up, I regret it.
Heyy any help for Indian buyyers
Half the problems were your fault lol my saw so far is awesome straight out the box, the rest is good maintenance :)
I'm running mine with a 50:1 mix. I can't complain much either with mine. A $2 gasket is all it's needed so far. It's made it's money back many times over.
you said you wouldnt buy another 660? whats your reason?
Mainly because I don't need a saw of this size but maybe a 10 times a year. I could have just bought the 372 and had plenty of saw with that. I'll rebuild this one when it is time. But the next purchase will probably be a 70 to 75 cc saw.
@@brandons4802 yeah I have also questioned my sanity for wanting such a big saw..haha.but I cut about 50 cords of firewood a year and sometimes i get into some big stuff,so having that kind of muscle would be nice.i was planning to buy a g660 when I get my stimulus $,but now I see holzfforma is having a blowout sale on a pick any 4 saws bundle.so I would likely get the 272xp,also, as well as either the g444 or g388.my 4th saw would be a jon cutter 2500 top handle limbing saw.do you think it would be a wise investment of about $800?
@@thehonestwoodcutterbradywe8011 I would have to say that would be a wise investment. From what I've heard others say about that Jon Cutter. You can't go wrong with them.
@@brandons4802 especially considering the ridiculous price of limbing saaws and that one on sale is $83
For the price of some of the holzfforma saws and jon cutters it doesn't hurt to buy a couple at a time. And for $83 I may order a few.
10 tanks is nothing i am sure after a 100 the saw is run in
You said you’d never buy another G660; but you never said why. I’m curious, because I have one coming.
I shouldn't have said it that way. I would buy another but at this point in time I don't need a 2nd one. Much rather go with the g444 and the g111. The saw it's self is great. Just check all bolts, screws and the 2 nuts that hold the air filter base in place.
I bought a Holzfforma G660 a couple months ago. Cut a couple cords of firewood with it and was on about my 7th tank of fuel. Still running a rich break in mix. Saw ran great right out of the box and I was liking it. Then it suddenly seized last week. I was curious and
took it apart myself. The piston pin retaining clip broke and came out trashing the top end . The advertisement said 1 year warranty so I e-mailed Hutzl/Farmertec. I took the saw apart so I assume that kinda messes up the warranty? So far in corresponding and sending
pictures to a representative from Hutzl/Farmertec, they told me they'd send me a new cylinder kit so I can repair it myself. A new cylinder kit and they'd also give me 300 points credit on my next purchase. Come to find out 300 points is only $3.00 US, and the cylinder kit only costs $23 on their website. A credit point of their's is only .01 cent. So $27.00 is what they give me and I spend 4 hours time with all the bullcrap this thing is pitting me through?Pretty shoddy if you ask me. I doubt there will be any more purchases from them. I'm still in negotiation with them, but my new cylinder kit still hasn't been sent. I should have just put the saw back together and requested a full refund and return. If they can't even temper a circlip right and it snaps in use, what other kind of pig iron is this thing made of? Think twice before wasting your money on this chinese crap.
I added a like for you, because, well, ... it seems like you’re trying,...& at the very least it seems that you indicated this was yer first video. But did you honestly review and listen to yourself given the title of the video? & Listen, i’m Not trying to cut you down. Perhaps you were nervous, but you have so much extra “chit chat” that doesn’t allow the listener to get, “the Bigger
Picture” with the 660. -: for instance,-Will the 660 leak fuel? Will the 660 rattle off the bar? Does the 660 allow for good lube flow over the course of let’s say 3 straight hours of prepping 2&1/2 foot diameter chunks? Does the 660’s clutch seem like it’s up to the task?
Etc...
With all saws,yes, shit is gonna rattle loose. We understand that. But, How is the saw after 6 months? What are the oddities you experienced. You say there are some but don’t get into it really.
Yes, you did show that linkage rubbing. That was good. I’m thinking of buying this saw, but still need info, for which you only scratched the surface.
God bless you brother lol that's all I'm saying about this video lol lmao rolling rolling rolling in the floor lmao
Where can I get one from?
I ordered mine through huztl.net it's the holzfforma website.
Brandon S They only sell the head with no bar or chain and you have to bulk order
This swa is not available in india
Is it worth buying
I bought a Husqvarna 460 rancher on closeout from Lowes recently for $323.00 and a 5 year warranty. For a little bit more money might as well buy a higher quality saw to start with. My 2 cents.
My 2 cents . I own a few china dolls , over time I have replaced parts here and there . i have a few OEM saws also . I’ve been cutting wood for manny years now . They can clone these saws just like what you buy at the OEM dealers shop . Same damn saw , maybe a little better . I’m not a fan of them really , but they work , depending on how you take care of your equipment post work I think is the key to longevity in any saw . But yeah I said it it’s the same as an OEM .
So, you would not but that saw again.
oh it's a Holzfforma g660
Oil is oil
Ne cihanaymış kopyalamadik motor koymadi
I can't hear you speak up louder
Why would someone that barely uses a saw be doing a review on a saw?
he say 'poo-layan' hahaha
So another words the it’s a piece of shit and you got a work on it
Only issues I have seen is operator error. I own a few and there every bit as good my Stihl and other saw's.
Floyd Beard do you think it will last as long? I got 1 it was 100% for the 1st 8 Tank of gas then it was all down hill
Floyd Beard I thought it was just me The torque is surprisingly strong at low RPM though and your right if you didn’t have a choice and you had to get it like I did there’s no o way that I can be mad at something maybe I should have not let my brother take it for a job that
@@poorsalotto6108 what fuel mix you running and what brand of 2cycle. Every saw I buy no matter the brand I rip the topend and make sure the jug ports are great and clean if so I'll open up the intake and exhaust port I use my drill with a point rotary tip and I modifie the exhaust. I run 25:1 for the first tank then I change it to 40:1 and adjust the carburetor but not much you want the sparkplug a light tan. The oil I run is Lucas I was using the Sthil but it caused to much carbon
Floyd Beard Well perhaps you got me there I’ve been running Quaker State oil😒😒40:to 1 50:to 1 Seemed like it was running to lean
Nice job