I really like when you talk about things you have "wondered" about. Your vast knowledge makes your wondering important. Also, I LOVE it when a scholar says, "You know, I don't really know enough about that to talk about it..." ; tells me they truly are a scholar!
I believe you are the first person to ever say my voice is like butter. Haha. My teenager would most definitely disagree with you. :) Thanks for listening! -Rebecca
First time I encountered Thomas Seymour was in the movie "Young Bess" with Jean Simmons as Elizabeth and Stewart Granger (Her husband!) playing Thomas. It was gilded Hollywood melodrama but the acting, lush score, gorgeous costumes and gutwrenching love story still make it a great film. Imagine my horror when I realized that TS was pretty much a creep who harassed 14 year old Elizabeth....that hurt to find out but I always dig for the truth once a movie has raised my interest. Have you seen this movie by any chance?
@@TudorsDynasty Agreed. It got me into the Tudors like 25 years ago. I still love researching them and while we may not always agree, your podcasts brighten up my isolation A LOT.
Rebecca! I just sent you another long note! You made me want to "Tudor" this morning. You are a lovely woman and so young! I guess I misunderstood; I thought you were in the process of writing about TS. Thanks so much for this! Jospeh
I'm enjoying your defense of TS. I do this constantly about Richard lll! We cannot help the historical man you 'fall' for! So I can understand you, as history done this to Rlll too. Of course mine, was done by the Tudors!
I have read a lot over the years regarding the Tudors but didn't know that Edward and Thomas had two brothers. Interesting. Inspired me to read more about the Seymours. Thanks from England
This was a super interesting topic. I had never considered that perhaps the common wisdom Thomas Seymour was colored and biased by his fall and execution. I’ll be interested in reading more about it, and following more of your thoughtful podcasts.
Well, there is no evidence of a letter left behind. We only have a story from people AFTER he was executed (likely to slander his name further) that said he had written letters to Mary and Elizabeth and placed in his shoe at his execution. Is it possible? Sure. But the slander was outrageous. Latimer even accused him of the death of a woman - nothing supports his claim.
Wee question on the Titles you mentioned. Lord Admiral. Did they actually earn it? Did it mean more than just power to them. I sort of have a picture of him as noble, yet charismatic, bit like Stewart Granger, lol. Not thuggish or slobbish as with some depictions. He would have been an "officer" and respectable? Or am just remembering it from movies or seeing it from a modern military perspective? Thanks.
I loved Young Best and Stewart Granger's performance as Thomas!!! Your question is difficult for me to answer because I truly believe that Thomas had the skills to be Lord Admiral and I want to say he earned it on merit, but I'm not confident in that assessment. The reason I say that is because (if I recall), Henry VIII's illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy was named Lord High Admiral for awhile, and he did not have the experience.
@@TudorsDynasty That said, Thomas did lead men and fought abroad in the "navy". I just imagine him more proud of this? In a good way. It is so interesting how faced with the same details of a person's life from the past, we, academic or not, all see it slightly differently. I just always wonder "objectively" their faith played a part in their choices, politics and just everyday thoughts. How did he get involved with the reformed religion..or did he? Find that facinating.
Not at all!! That was created for TV to help tell the story of his FATHER, who may or may not have had an affair with Edward Seymour’s life. Learn more here: tudorsdynasty.com/edward-seymour-father-or-brother/?amp
Negocio redondo para los enemigos de estos hermanos, fueron acusadas de conspiración, ejecutados y luego el rey Eduardo, ya sin la protección de sus tíos muere , y los acusadores imponen a Jane Grey como reina en oposición a María Tudor siendo derrotados y ejecutados por los partidarios de las princesas María y Elizabeth .
I really like when you talk about things you have "wondered" about. Your vast knowledge makes your wondering important. Also, I LOVE it when a scholar says, "You know, I don't really know enough about that to talk about it..." ; tells me they truly are a scholar!
You do great work and your voice is like butter! Thank you for creating content!
I believe you are the first person to ever say my voice is like butter. Haha. My teenager would most definitely disagree with you. :) Thanks for listening! -Rebecca
I have listened to all your podcasts and Love them; you have a very nice voice .
Wow, thank you!
First time I encountered Thomas Seymour was in the movie "Young Bess" with Jean Simmons as Elizabeth and Stewart Granger (Her husband!) playing Thomas. It was gilded Hollywood melodrama but the acting, lush score, gorgeous costumes and gutwrenching love story still make it a great film. Imagine my horror when I realized that TS was pretty much a creep who harassed 14 year old Elizabeth....that hurt to find out but I always dig for the truth once a movie has raised my interest. Have you seen this movie by any chance?
Love that movie! The only one he is really focused on.
@@TudorsDynasty Agreed. It got me into the Tudors like 25 years ago. I still love researching them and while we may not always agree, your podcasts brighten up my isolation A LOT.
Rebecca! I just sent you another long note! You made me want to "Tudor" this morning. You are a lovely woman and so young! I guess I misunderstood; I thought you were in the process of writing about TS. Thanks so much for this! Jospeh
I'm enjoying your defense of TS. I do this constantly about Richard lll! We cannot help the historical man you 'fall' for!
So I can understand you, as history done this to Rlll too. Of course mine, was done by the Tudors!
Eventually I'll have time to finish my book on him and show the evidence to back up his innocence (in some situations ).
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I have read a lot over the years regarding the Tudors but didn't know that Edward and Thomas had two brothers. Interesting. Inspired me to read more about the Seymours. Thanks from England
This was a super interesting topic. I had never considered that perhaps the common wisdom Thomas Seymour was colored and biased by his fall and execution. I’ll be interested in reading more about it, and following more of your thoughtful podcasts.
So nice to see a face behind the voice, lol! You're awesome, lady!
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Very much enjoyed this video. Did Thomas write anything to Elizabeth when he was in the Tower?
Well, there is no evidence of a letter left behind. We only have a story from people AFTER he was executed (likely to slander his name further) that said he had written letters to Mary and Elizabeth and placed in his shoe at his execution. Is it possible? Sure. But the slander was outrageous. Latimer even accused him of the death of a woman - nothing supports his claim.
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Wee question on the Titles you mentioned. Lord Admiral. Did they actually earn it? Did it mean more than just power to them. I sort of have a picture of him as noble, yet charismatic, bit like Stewart Granger, lol. Not thuggish or slobbish as with some depictions. He would have been an "officer" and respectable? Or am just remembering it from movies or seeing it from a modern military perspective? Thanks.
I loved Young Best and Stewart Granger's performance as Thomas!!! Your question is difficult for me to answer because I truly believe that Thomas had the skills to be Lord Admiral and I want to say he earned it on merit, but I'm not confident in that assessment. The reason I say that is because (if I recall), Henry VIII's illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy was named Lord High Admiral for awhile, and he did not have the experience.
@@TudorsDynasty That said, Thomas did lead men and fought abroad in the "navy". I just imagine him more proud of this? In a good way. It is so interesting how faced with the same details of a person's life from the past, we, academic or not, all see it slightly differently. I just always wonder "objectively" their faith played a part in their choices, politics and just everyday thoughts. How did he get involved with the reformed religion..or did he? Find that facinating.
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I really got it wrong, what you said about TS! I thought you wanted to rake him over the coals! Ha! This is very interesting to me.
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What was his relation with Edward vi
He was his maternal uncle. Thomas's sister was Jane Seymour.
What about Thomas later plans to kidnap the king
This will be revealed when I publish my book.
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So Elon musk is a time traveller aswel then? Cz that is defo him in that painting I'm sure you'll all agree
Do you think Thomas Seymour actually had an affair with his sister in law as shown in the series The Tudors?
Not at all!! That was created for TV to help tell the story of his FATHER, who may or may not have had an affair with Edward Seymour’s life. Learn more here: tudorsdynasty.com/edward-seymour-father-or-brother/?amp
Do you think Thomas was having an affair with Catherine while king Henry was alive ?
Negocio redondo para los enemigos de estos hermanos, fueron acusadas de conspiración, ejecutados y luego el rey Eduardo, ya sin la protección de sus tíos muere , y los acusadores imponen a Jane Grey como reina en oposición a María Tudor siendo derrotados y ejecutados por los partidarios de las princesas María y Elizabeth .
Thomas seymoure was according to the serie " the tudors " a VERY MEAN and manipulating person, he was NOT a honest men......
They were not kind to him in that series. And no, he did not have an affair with his sister-in-law! Ugh - that was so annoying.
@@TudorsDynasty An serie is not a reliable source.
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