I used to love these ligatures. Great, easy design. Very free blowing (as opposed to a Rovner). However, I feel there is a design flaw, at least with the alto sax version. And I'm not the only person who's noticed it. After playing for 10 minutes or so, I would lose the seal of the reed. For months it drove me mad, I'd try all sorts of different reeds, mouthpieces, etc. Changing the ligature fixed that. A student of mine returned one summer after a year in college and his sax prof had him change away from the M/O citing the same issues I had.
That would be a deal breaker for sure. I haven't had that experience, I wonder if there is a difference between the sax and the clarinet models...or perhaps there needs to be a difference where there is not
At one stage I was practicing on a Bonade Silver inverted ligature in a break in a rehearsal and the other clarinettist asked me to try pink gold one of the same sort. I thought it had a sweeter sound, as did the other clarinettist, which made me think the difference might not be in my imagination. I think metal ligatures would disperse heat more than, say, a Rovner which might result in a Rovner playing sharper. I don't know if any one has tested this.
The heat dispersing is something I have never thought about. Thank you for giving me a brand new thing to think about:) I agree that there is a difference in the sound of the ligatures, but is it so much that the sweetness of the pink gold could not be found in a reed adjustment or in the reed somewhere? For me at least, it takes direct comparison (time and money) which is super fun - except the money part - but also for the smallest impact of all of the equipment. Still fun to look at all the different options. I remind myself that there are many more expensive and dangerous hobbies lol
I've been playing both black MO and woodstone gold-plate ligatures and I am totally agree with you that MO ligature is very response ligature! Even though I usually use woodstone cuz I like the sound of woodstone more, I use MO ligatures when I feel reeds are too thick to make me a little bit more comfortable lol. BTW I sized up my reeds from V12 size 3 to V12 size 3.5 on these datys so I think I'm gonna use black MO more haha.
Nice job Jay...for me, I liked your sound on the Pink Gold and was actually surprised how even the Pewter sounded which is the most inexpensive version. Maybe after playing on these for an extended period you'll have a different viewpoint. Kind of like driving a new car...what will it sound like after 5000 miles (or hours in your case:)
Thanks! Another good and useful video. (By the way, you know you're a band nerd when you think any color clarinet ligature is cool.) So, I recently switched over to a Vandoren BD4 mouthpiece; I like it very much, however, I cannot get my Vandoren Optimum ligature to tighten up enough to hold my Legere reed in place securely. I seem to recall from your mouthpiece video that you play a BD4. Is it safe for me to assume that an M/O ligature would tighten up properly on a BD4 mouthpiece? Thanks again for your always useful videos.
In terms of resistance, not sound.. Do you think there is a difference between them in resistance level? If so, which one do you think is the most resistant and which one is the most free blowing? Or, which is the order from the most resistant to the less resistant(free blowing)? thanks
It’s been a long time since I made the video:) I am confident that the difference in resistance would be made up for in reed choice and adjustment. At the same time, the silver and gold had the most resistance but not by a lot.
Thank you for your video. Are we into some kind of “religion “ or “ cult” Would the great players of the past like Marcellus Brymer and others of the past would have been better if they charge the ligatures we have to day. ? God bless you. Bill. UK
@@clarinetninja relatable lol, I was lucky enough to try a school friend's ligature, and it's so free blowing, like as if the ligature wasn't even there! I play a Bonade personally, nothing too fancy, I think it was around 12 dollars when I bought it, and I see no reason to change, but I was personally impressed by the carbon. Might get one of these for bass clarinet though, I'm not the fondest of the Bonade on bass, while the Optimum is quite heavy for my taste. My Bonade will work just fine until then lol
@@thelookingcat Here is what is funny - in an ironic and embarrassing way. I was playing bass moments before you asking me that question....and I don't remember. I would look, but I left my bass in a locker at the Broadway show wicked and I can't just open the case and take a look. I think I am using an M/O....but I am only 90 percent sure. What a weird thing to not know....sheesh
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I used to love these ligatures. Great, easy design. Very free blowing (as opposed to a Rovner). However, I feel there is a design flaw, at least with the alto sax version. And I'm not the only person who's noticed it. After playing for 10 minutes or so, I would lose the seal of the reed. For months it drove me mad, I'd try all sorts of different reeds, mouthpieces, etc. Changing the ligature fixed that. A student of mine returned one summer after a year in college and his sax prof had him change away from the M/O citing the same issues I had.
That would be a deal breaker for sure. I haven't had that experience, I wonder if there is a difference between the sax and the clarinet models...or perhaps there needs to be a difference where there is not
At one stage I was practicing on a Bonade Silver inverted ligature in a break in a rehearsal and the other clarinettist asked me to try pink gold one of the same sort. I thought it had a sweeter sound, as did the other clarinettist, which made me think the difference might not be in my imagination. I think metal ligatures would disperse heat more than, say, a Rovner which might result in a Rovner playing sharper. I don't know if any one has tested this.
The heat dispersing is something I have never thought about. Thank you for giving me a brand new thing to think about:)
I agree that there is a difference in the sound of the ligatures, but is it so much that the sweetness of the pink gold could not be found in a reed adjustment or in the reed somewhere? For me at least, it takes direct comparison (time and money) which is super fun - except the money part - but also for the smallest impact of all of the equipment. Still fun to look at all the different options. I remind myself that there are many more expensive and dangerous hobbies lol
Anyway thank you for nice videos. I am always checking your new contents from on the other side of globe lol
I've been playing both black MO and woodstone gold-plate ligatures and I am totally agree with you that MO ligature is very response ligature! Even though I usually use woodstone cuz I like the sound of woodstone more, I use MO ligatures when I feel reeds are too thick to make me a little bit more comfortable lol. BTW I sized up my reeds from V12 size 3 to V12 size 3.5 on these datys so I think I'm gonna use black MO more haha.
V12 3.5 on which mouthpiece?
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Nice job Jay...for me, I liked your sound on the Pink Gold and was actually surprised how even the Pewter sounded which is the most inexpensive version. Maybe after playing on these for an extended period you'll have a different viewpoint. Kind of like driving a new car...what will it sound like after 5000 miles (or hours in your case:)
Thanks Gary!
Thanks! Another good and useful video. (By the way, you know you're a band nerd when you think any color clarinet ligature is cool.)
So, I recently switched over to a Vandoren BD4 mouthpiece; I like it very much, however, I cannot get my Vandoren Optimum ligature to tighten up enough to hold my Legere reed in place securely. I seem to recall from your mouthpiece video that you play a BD4. Is it safe for me to assume that an M/O ligature would tighten up properly on a BD4 mouthpiece?
Thanks again for your always useful videos.
Thank you! Once again you have made my day :)
Silver and pewter for me!🙏
I think silver was my favourite in this video.
In terms of resistance, not sound.. Do you think there is a difference between them in resistance level? If so, which one do you think is the most resistant and which one is the most free blowing? Or, which is the order from the most resistant to the less resistant(free blowing)? thanks
It’s been a long time since I made the video:) I am confident that the difference in resistance would be made up for in reed choice and adjustment. At the same time, the silver and gold had the most resistance but not by a lot.
Do you still have the old Master ligature? I'd like you to make a vid playing It.
I wish I still had it to make a video!
I believe nothing beats Bonades, really!
I also play Bonades!
Thank you for your video. Are we into some kind of “religion “ or “ cult”
Would the great players of the past like Marcellus Brymer and others of the past would have been better if they charge the ligatures we have to day. ? God bless you. Bill. UK
My favorite version was the Carbon Fiber, but it's too expensive XD
I would love to try the carbon fiber, but I have never had the chance and can’t afford it even if I did like it:)
@@clarinetninja relatable lol, I was lucky enough to try a school friend's ligature, and it's so free blowing, like as if the ligature wasn't even there! I play a Bonade personally, nothing too fancy, I think it was around 12 dollars when I bought it, and I see no reason to change, but I was personally impressed by the carbon. Might get one of these for bass clarinet though, I'm not the fondest of the Bonade on bass, while the Optimum is quite heavy for my taste. My Bonade will work just fine until then lol
@@thelookingcat I have never lilked the bonade on bass either. We are twins
@@clarinetninja haha that's so funny! What do you like on Bass?
@@thelookingcat Here is what is funny - in an ironic and embarrassing way. I was playing bass moments before you asking me that question....and I don't remember. I would look, but I left my bass in a locker at the Broadway show wicked and I can't just open the case and take a look. I think I am using an M/O....but I am only 90 percent sure. What a weird thing to not know....sheesh
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