The Mosin Nagant 91/30 An Honest Review
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- The Mosin Nagant 91/30 is a terrific surplus military rifle. I've used mine for all kinds of things. I've taken it hunting, enjoyed shooting it in the desert, shot it at long ranges and short. In this video, I give you my honest review and thoughts about the usefulness of the 91/30 and explain why I'm happy to own one.
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you have a voice for radio
Austin Bond He kinda sounds like Seymour Skinner.
yeah, sounds like a journalist from the East Coast. Speaks clearly
I use my 91/30 for hunting all the time. I got mine about 30 years ago. I got the sniper version with the original scope and it is as accurate as a real good 30-06. I bought mine for 59 bucks including shipping.
Dude, you have a golden voice.
Black Warrior Lures he sounds like howard stern a little
@@johnjames4593 true
91/30 owner love it got it at a pawn shop for 80$
Mine was double that and a bit. Still my favorite firearm, and one of the most economical to feed. Rare is a range trip without it.
In 2021 here in Canada, 91-30’s are now over $400 CDN. Glad I got mine years ago when they were cheaper. Sure is fun to shoot and at least the surplus ammo is still plentiful and cheap. The corrosive ammo is not that much of a problem as long as you clean it as soon as possible after coming back from the range. If you enjoy shooting a bit of history, definitely get one.
I own two mosin nagants one is a 91/30 and the other is a m44 . Both of these rifles are fantastic and have taken many game from deer , and of couse the largest north american land animal the moose . They have a good bullet grain selection from 150 gr 180 gr and a 208 gr .
They have never given me any trouble and they are both very accurate out to 350 metres
They are great hunting rifles and as long as the barrel isn't a sewer pipe, they're surprisingly accurate, especially with reloads.
My 91/30 was the very first gun I was given for my birthday. I hunted and competed with it, what a wonderful rifle!
The Rifle that made me fall in Love with Firearms!
I have a 1944 91/30, and can say I think I’m very lucky with it, bolt feels very good, no jamming has ever occurred except the occasional first round feeding a bit rough, no misfires ever, and is so easy to clean, love it very much
great review! But I would like to clarify: While the Soviets had some issues supplying small arms to soldiers at the start of Barbarossa, by the Battle of Stalingrad these issues were non-existent. In 1942 alone they cranked out over 3 million of these rifles. They were VERY well equipped in that sense. That scene in Enemy at the Gates is complete hogwash. In general, I would take any Hollywood attempt at portraying history with more than a grain of salt: Any thing they say has probably been grossly over-dramatized or warped to suit their narrative.
A lot of Hollywood has a harsh anti Russian bias. You'd think Russian cuisine was 1001 ways to boil baby viscera from how they come off in movies.
@@brianmead7556 True XD
Why were you there?
you think saving private ryans omaha beach sequence was hogwash?
Just finished restoring mine to original condition, it’s absolutely beautiful
My son bought me a Mosin several years ago for $200. Love this rifle!! Then a year later he ordered the Archangel upgrade package. This package replaced all the wood with black polymer furniture and also modified it to accept the Archangel ten round magazine! When we go to the range this gun gets more eyebrow raised than the AR-15s and other so called “assault weapons”.
Because you bubba a Mosin
Goddamnit man you might one of the most likeable and straight up people I've ever found in this space. Hope you continue to make more content!
If I am not mistaken, there is footage of someone shooting a mosin from their roof during the 1992 L.A. Riots. For those of us who lived in California, we know there were times when something like this Mosin was as close to an AK we ever had in gun stores. 5 rounds can definitely stop anything for sure!
The SKS
One thing you forgot to mention is that before firing the rifle for the first time after purchase, it is recommended to check head-space and firing pin protrusion (don't want to be puncturing any primers) and clean all the cosmoline off of the rifle so it doesn't gum up the action. Other than that, these rifles are an excellent buy. I got a 91/30 for $160 back near the end of 2014 and I'm glad I did. They're well into the $200+ range now.
I bought myself a 91/30 a few weeks back. I had custom stockwork done and for about $200 plus $40 for the stockwork it was so worth it. I even have a knockoff Tokarev to go with it. If you or someone you know wants one I would say make sure you snag it and make sure it's a 91/30. I bought this rifle with the intent and purpose to carry with me while I walk in Bear Country... I've only come across one bear and when I fired a round into the air it was enough to make it turn, tuck tail, and haul ass. Now if I had to use it on the Bear, I do believe this rifle would have put 'em down. Since I've had this gun, I've been to the range several times and have had people come and ask me to shoot it because they thought it was such garbage and couldn't believe anyone wanted one... After they shot it they've offered to buy it from me right on the spot. The gun is very reliable, it's made strong, and it'll always fire true. The accuracy isn't as great as most rifles today, but for the time it was the best rifle for the average boots on the ground Russian Soldier. Between my 91/30 and my Tokarev knockoff, this is what I would carry in the woods with me the next time I find myself in Michigan's Upper Peninsula or the Woodlands of Wyoming.
I own a 1944 Mosin Nagant M91/30 and love it!! I take it deer hunting every year. you mentioned the bolt being stiff and that's something I've never had a problem with. The main thing I do for that is i make sure it's well oiled (not to say it will work for everyone though). As far as weight, my uncle has a British 303 and his is heavier then my Mosin, I think they are well balanced do to their length and don't really think they are heavy by any means.
I was pick up and bought Mosin Nagant M91/30 by 1938 and fired, I love it
I bought a 1942 M91/30 a couple of years ago and I love it. Made some modifications on it with a little customization so that it is more of a scouting rifle but still can be used as a hunting/survival rifle with a long eye relief pistol scope that mounts to the 11mm dove tail rail under the front site that can easy be removed (majority of the time that is lol). Awesome rifle and definitely makes a conversation piece in the man cave.
Love my Mosin, mfrg in Russia in 1930. No problem in dropping my Buck with this Mosin. Have made a few changes, and its now pretty awesome. Have some pics is you would like. Thanks, Don.
I love how he lays this out, no worship, no spleen, just the facts ma'am.
Greetings from Kentucky....my 91/59 is a constant companion...a spot-on nail driver and reliable as can be.
+Frank Carvell cool rifle, always looking for one.....have a m44, would love a m38. but the 91/59 KGB special as IV8888 calls them would be the jewel in the crown!
Ayeeee another 91/59 owner! 😁
I absolutely love mine. As you said, it's a nail driver and extremely reliable.
The m39 Finnish Mosin Nagant is said to be more accurate than the 91/30 or the m44 or m38. The m39's are free floated in the stock.
Would really like to see you give your take on the SKS rifle Best thing about them is their California legal with very little modification (remove the bayonet).
The bayonet lug isn't a California assault weapons feature. A California SKS needs to have a fixed mag and the grenade launcher removed.
+thefilmguy i always agree that sks videos need to be made.
+daniel boyd cooper I think SKS's are great fun even though their not as cheap to buy as they used to be.
I have a crate of these bought them from jgsales back in the day. I made a mistake and sold a few but I won’t sell anymore. They ARE potent. The 7.62X54R is a beast. Like you sad, very dependable, and once you get all of that cosmoline out they are great! Good video!
great review sir, love those mosins.
Prices are creeping up into the 250 -300 range. Still cheap for a big aft whoopin' rifle. I bought one recently because the opportunity presented itself and I didn't want to be kicking myself. I love its simplicity and robustness.
Can't Touch This prices are increasing even more now. Mine was $350
Can't Touch This I got mine for $225 along with 20 rounds but no bayonet, ammo pouches or sling included.
I really like your videos, you have a very comfortable & informative style of putting your information out that others don,t seem to have.
Just bought a 1932 Tula hex reciever excellent condition and all matching numbers with a bayonet for $550.
7-17-2022. Very happy with my purchase.
love my mosin. even though mine was manufactured in 1943, it still hits at about 100 yards given you aim real steady. I'm still trying to get the open iron sights down.
all I had to do was a lot of cleaning the chamber to get rid of the cosmoline
I have 3 of these purchased for less than $90 each. A competent do it yourselfer can easily improve the trigger and smooth out the action, and a slip on recoil pad will extend the short stock and make it much more pleasant to shoot. One of these rifles with a good bore will easily shoot inside of 2" at 100 yds with properly sized cast bullets and a good hand load.
Not accurate? Simo Hayha would disagree with you on that
Oh, yeah! But those were Finnish Mosins. Not quite the same critter.
simo used a M91 Russian Mosin
Arty He used an M28, not an M91
@@sirboomsalot4902 Simo Hayha used a M28 when he was in military training, once he was assigend as a sniper he switched back to his own Finnish M91
Bayonet on helps accuracy
Recently acquired a 1938 9130 that looks as though it was never even fired. Absolutely love your review of the mosin. I never expected it to be a tac driver and honestly bought it for the challenge to see if I could improve upon its accuracy. Keep up the great vids
I recently picked up a 1938 91/30 that appeared to be unfired, but refurbished and far more accurate that my 1943 91/30
Fun fact: when you fix the bayonet to this rifle it becomes more accurate, this is because the bayonet affects the barrel harmonics and every 91/30 was factory zeroed with a fixed bayonet.
Excellent review. I have a 1932 Tula M91/30 and a 1939 SAKO (Finnish) M39. The 91/30 gave me a little trouble at first--cosmoline residue in the chamber that would jam the casing when the barrel heated up--but a good cleaning with Bore Bright took care of that. The M39 is more accurate (2-inch groupings at 100 yards), but I can do just as well at 100 yards with the 91/30 as I can with an M1 Garand...or even the M1 Carbine. The recoil I get on both of the Mosins is no more powerful than what I get from my Mossberg Patriot 30-06 deer rifle.
The only "issue" I've found is that the characteristics change with heat. The target point moves slightly between a cold gun and one that has fired five or ten rounds, and the bolt gets stiffer when it's hot. After 10 rounds rapid-fire on a 90-degree day, the bolt is hard to close. I'm going to try filing down (just a little bit) the corner that locks in the bolt. (Note that I am not a professional gunsmith, and so I do not recommend that anyone who is not a gunsmith make any such alteration.)
Late to the You Tube review by Seven years. lucky I got my rifle 20 years ago. Ammo also. Fun and interesting battle rifles with some legacy behind them. In a pinch, they work just great every pull of the trigger.
Hi Joel,
I've just watched your 3 videos on the NRA website, the two about the Hi Point guns and the Mosin Nagant. I happen to own a Mosin Nagant 91/30, the Hi Point 9mm carbine and a 45ACP Hi Point pistol, and I agree of course, with your points. This is why I bought these over last year. Cheap and fun to shoot.
I am going to join the NRA, but as I'm in Canada, I am going to wait untill regular business hours on Monday coming, as I need to chat with them about a few questions I have.
Thanks for all the videos,..I find them very informative and entertaining at the same time.
Cheers!
My first firearm was a 1934 Mosin. It's a great rifle
Just a quick one. If you load the cartridges "one rim in front of the other from the bottom up" you will see that recycling loads will be a breeze.If you do not, obviously the rim gets in your way. Good luck, and good shooting!!
1938 izhevsk 91/30, very smooth bolt I must say, bought back in 2013 for $138.
I own an 1928 ex-dragoon or prototype m91/30 hex receiver mosin, have not had any bolt problems or accuracy problems
i have three , a 91/30, a PU and a M44. i've put turn down handles on the 91/30 and the M44 to get better leverage and makes the action smoother . life member of the NRA and damn proud.
"These are very loud" Yeah, Russian revolutionary militia and military patrols used this quirk: firing two shots into the air as an emergency call for a patrol in danger or just an alarm sign. The same simple trick was then used for a long time in Soviet law enforcement.
Great video. Mine shoots great after some little tweaking. I bought a scout scope mount from BadAce and added a riser to put a regular scope on, highly recommend. The scope is a SWFA 10X42. You can see my rifle on a post dated April 12, 2019 and pictures of my 1/4" grouping @100 yards, yes 100 yards. I have shot it out to 966 yards at a torso size target. Here are my simple mods: look up the video for the Finnish trigger mod. Than I JB welded a front metal tube that id drilled out perfect for the front mounting bolt. I used shoe polish as a releasing agent. I used a little JB Weld at the tang to seat it, and sprinkled a little sanded wood on top to hide the JB Weld. This improved the grouping some. But this one mod brought it down to 1/4" moa. I removed the top wooden barrel cover. From the breech, I put a patch that was snug and slowly pushed the rod to the end of the barrel. When I felt the bore feel looser I stopped and marked with a magic marker. For me there were two places. Than I took 1/8th thick cork sheets from Hobby Lobby and a cut one inch long strip and wrapped it around the loose bore area with the magic marker marking in the middle of the cork. And I put a 1/2" piece near the end of the barrel and made sure the metal on the stock and top cover did not touch the barrel. This did two things, fixed the harmonics on the loose areas of the bore and allowed the wood of the stock to help make the barrel more rigid. I had to use some clamps with rubber padding to clamp to get the rings back on. Than I touched up any scrapped areas with varnish. And I only use Tulammo 148 gr to 500 yards, and Monarch 185gr for further past 500 yards. Military grade shoots well too. Never got any other brand to shoot any better groups. Bolt man bent the bolt. I hope this works good for you too.
I'm in the process or building out a custom Mosin I put a 91/30 with an awesome bore in an archangel stock put a bent bolt on it mounted a rock solid industries scope mount on it with a vortex crossfire 2 scope cut the barrel down to 21" threaded for a suppressor and now it takes 10 round mags and I get 1.37" groups at 200 yards with cheap match ammo and its absolutely awesome not counting the scope and suppressor I got $679 counting the rifle I think the last upgrade I'm going to do is get a timmney trigger in it and it will be complete
i really appreciate your videos, the quality, and straight forward information!
You people need to stop bragging about buying these rifles cheap. It doesn't make you special, and no one is impressed.
Anyway, good video about a iconic rifle. And yes, they do hit like a train.
I am considering converting my Mosin to a polymer chassis. Recoil management ten times better and lightens the load by at least two thirds maybe more. I saw one video where the guy took the barrel down to 16". I think that may be a bit too short. However, these conversions are setup to take archangle 10 round magazines.
When I compare buying a AR10 of solid reputation it would be $1700.
I calculated the conversion of the Mosin to a polymer chassis to be under $1000 probably closer to $850, depending on the smithing costs. However, I think I can do the conversion, it looks that simple and I am a noob. Sme of the archangel magazines have to be machined and notched and I would need to have the barrel threaded just to accommodate a flash suppressor, etc.
I am weighing it out and honestly I am stuck making this decision.
So essentially it is the people's rifle , it's very good if you don't have enough for an ar15 or other more modern weaponry and it's easy as can be to use and it's highly durable, very good review btw
I have a mosin nagant is a great rifle and i love it, is so much history and you can see it on any world war 2 movies and games like call of duty! 😊👍
A note for anyone considering buying an M91/30: I've had trouble with casings getting stuck in the chamber (and locking the bolt shut) if it gets too hot. This doesn't happen as much with cartridges that aren't the cheap lacquered ones, or if I don't try to shoot more than 10 rounds in rapid succession. And I have a feeling that it only happens in hot summer weather (I haven't had a chance to shoot the rifle when it's cooler outside). The good news is that, worst-case, once the barrel cools down it's easy enough to whack the bolt open with a rubber mallet, or even by hand.
I do love all of mine and my carbine too!
A buddy of mine uses his 91/30 as his exclusive hunting rifle. He's never come back from a hunting trip without plenty of meat for his freezer.
I wish I could have bought these earlier now they are 300-500
Got a 34..
For 130$
Last year...perfict condish ...
A great shot
I have several models and my favorite activity is to fire the M44 carbine aRound dusk. The muzzle flash is so bright you could call in airstrike on its position. I have found the Finnish models to be the most accurate
Also you can get the bolts fixed on them if you want to
Thanks - I like your description of this rifle the best!
I picked up a nice hex barrel 91/30 because of the popularity, cheapness ($$$) and because watching the million TH-cam videos they looked like fun to have and shoot, as well as the historical value being a main rifle of Russia. I easily can group within a 6" circle at 100 yards with the iron sights. Also, the ammo is equally inexpensive, although cleaning after shooting has to take care of the corrosive primers. I agree, everyone should own one!
may be looking into one of these, thanks for the well done and honest review. i guess the prices have gone up since this was made, a out of the way historic gun store has one of these in the mid 200 range. i did not catch the year but it would be a cool piece of history to get to shoot off.
The main common problem among all Mosin-Nagants is this: STICKY-BOLT SYNDROME. (Even among Carbine variants)
I got a 1939 91/30, great budget rifle for any history or firearms collector. I shoot it quite often to, $13 for 20 rounds of tula non corrosive.
You can find the Tula for $10 or less. Shop around.
I use Ammoseek and SGAmmo, plus also haunt gunshows. For 30¢, you can put modern full power centerfire down range. It's really an incredible deal.
The long one recoil about like a 30/30 Marlin.
i weigh 140 soaking wet and i have no problem going all day with this rifle...that should give you a pretty good indication
manifestgtr 140 kilos or pounds?
@@lukedontknow9283 definitely pounds
I have one and I love it
great video, sometimes good enough is good enough, price has jumped but still a good buy.
I got my mosin those ati stocks and added the scope installation and shorten the barrel to 22inch ; oh boy it looks good ;)
Great video. Very professional
I love my mosin I got mine for 90 bucks with dros Sorry I live in commifornia but still a great rifle
I have two 91/30. When I shoot either one at 100 yards, they both shoot 6-8" high Is this what you have found?
i have two mosin nagant,a 91/30 and a M-44. i like the m-44 because it's a carbine but you pay the price. i am 6'2" and 260# so it don't beat me up quite so bad,little people get a whipping from this rifle. nice video and i did subscribe. have a good one ....Jim
really good speaking voice. I'm going to enjoy this channel.
Gun guy, love the video, love the rifle and if you like the 91 30 you should try to get your hands on an original 91 model and I myself am trying to find a good mosin nagant to buy and keep, any idea where I can look?
I love the videos please please keep them coming
Clea cosmoline out after range helps with bolt complete tear down
Talk about a cheap combo, a hi point amd a m91/30. That'd only run you about $500 total
I got a 1925 hex moson 91/30 with the older bronze metals strips instead of black, and had a 1943 which i sold. Ill never get rid of my 1925.
Very good assessment i enjoyed it.
Got mine in a pawn shop for $100. It's a M91, a 1917 Remington.
It's also the most succesful sniper rifle of WW2.
Good and informative video!
HOW ARE YOU NOT ON THE RADIO?!!??
Very nice review!!! Agree with everything.
wish you would have demonstrated loading without a stripper clip and the functioning of the safety
Can a Mosin drop a charging 1200 lb. grizzle
Austin Gollaher if you can hit it
Absolutely
Yessir
Is the Finnish version the best one? What are the identifying markings on it?
"They are tremendous lotta fun to shoot" said no conscript ever in 1941
If I crank this off inside my house I'll have a warrant out in all 50 countries 😅😂
I'm confused it's not great for hunting but it is great for hunting? I own one and I hunt with it. It's smooth and reliable and very very accurate.
I hope you're using SP ammo, and not the mild steel milsurp.
1937 tula 91/30 & 1952 polish m44 & a new izhevsk 91/30 this weekend lol
$126 4 years ago..js..perfict bore...reverse bore...
Cant beat its at all
I love my 91/30 even though the bolt is a little stiff lol. Great review, I agree with you on every point. The only bummer for me is i live in the "lead free" zone of California so I can't hunt with mine. I have not been able to find copper ammo for them, so if you know of any please let me know! Keep up the great vids my freind.
+BallewBlade86 Buy the bullets and reload?
Yeah that's an option I guess
Hornady sst
Kenneth Higdon Thank you!
Lead free zone....😂 California is even worse than Canada
I got one and I love it lol
Where can you get these online cheap?
I don't know the current value of a Mosin-Nagant but if I'm to believe my father he got ours for about $40. But I will say he's known to exaggerate a bit on certain occasions. But if anyone has any evidence that this is accurate please leave a reply to this comment because I can't imagine getting this much firepower for $40
Back in the day, they were that cheap actually. Was quite a long time ago but it could be believable
I saw retail for $59. I could believe it especially used. The flip side was no body wanted these for a long time. Hence the pricing.
Is the recoil worse than a 12 gauge target load?
+Coreen Walker Hi Coreen. Yes, it recoils harder than target loads. I would say that heavy duck loads or buck-shot would be closer. Part of the issue is the metal butt plate. If you replace it with a rubber pad, such as those found on hunting rifles, some of the recoil will be soaked up by the pad.
+Coreen Walker LimbSaver slip-on recoil pads work wonders.
+Coreen Walker Like Nugrat1 stated, the recoil pads help. There are also a number of muzzle breaks on the market that reduce recoil and muzzle rise. I have some for each variation of the rifle, some are cheap and some are very well made. I am not recommending any, I do own a Howling Raven for the 91/30. There is another very good one made by Texas Precision. You can look up videos for muzzle breaks and decide for yourself if you want one, how much you'd want to spend, and if it's right for you personally. I have owned Mosins for a long time and I have 4 different variants, the M44, M38, 91/30, and the T53 which is the Chinese version. They are good rifles and if you are just getting into shooting but, I would suggest if you are worried about recoil, do not buy the short ones, they recoil more than the 91/30.
Anyway, I have the shoulder pad I wear over my shoulder and the rubber slip over butt pad I use when I shoot my Mosin Nagants.
+Mark Ri hey mark, i got the howling raven brake for christmas this year, i put it on my PU91/31.
With the standard steel butt plate yes worse than a 12 gauge buck shot no
The kick doesn’t bother me at all honestly
You sound like a sports radio show host
I have an action captured in An Loc
Could choose between a m91 30 and a 1891 ...same 350 beans...I took the m91 30 cz I thought oh cool ww2