Good job getting it running well. Helped that it was really a good quality product to start with before someone messed some things up with it Although sold by Lifelike or similar re boxing companies, It's actually from Lilliput of Vienna Austria. Almost all their products were for two rail DC. So a permanent magnet motor. Used an existing 4-6-0 chassis for a German BR38 class but tooled a new body and tender to make a near enough Pennsy G5. They were hoping to start big sales to the US market in the late sixties or early seventies. Often catered for the surprising acceptance of putting any road name on a product unique to one Railroad company. Even today NYC Niagras sold as a UP locomotive and similar ideas Quite a few US re boxer companies like Life Like , AHM and IHC that never produced any equipment other than boxes. Often screwing down European and East Asian real manufacturers to the very lowest price. Sometimes the delays in payment or non payment sent the real skilled and productive companies broke. Sometimes numerous manufactures products sold by them. Sometimes seeking out cheaper and nastier products over time. So with the boxing companies you need quite a bit of knowledge to work out if the product is really from a good maker or not so good. Lilliput usually very good for the time but eventually taken over by Bachmann Europe still selling as Lilliput but with Bachmann ideas about design and pricing.
Definitely a Life-Like G-5 model from the early 70s . I had one of these back then .They were very good runners especially if you broke them in properly.
Pennsylvania G5s class 4-6-0. How did that CN logo get there ? ☺ These were passenger locomotives built at Juniata and used by PRR on commuter runs from about the mid 1920's to about the mid 1950's. They were used on the Long Island Railroad. Only two roads PRR and Great Northern used that Belpaire firebox.
Harrison, watching your videos encouraged me to diagnose and cure my 2-8-0 that had a drive problem. The worm gear somehow worked its was forward on the shaft. Fixed. Thanks!
Well done, Harrison. Our train club member will be the envy of everyone who sees him run the restored engine on our layout -- not to mention everyone else who watches the miracles you work on a regular basis. Keep up the informative and entertaining effort you devote to this channel for our benefit. Regards.
Great save!!! However...myself - I would melt that heat shrink tubing with a soldering iron rather than an open flame. Much safer for the rest of the wiring! And...you've got that bad boy running like it's new!!!
Nice restoration Harrison! I remember seeing these IHC steamers advertised in both Model Railroader and Model Railroad Craftsman, never bought any though since I had a preference to diesel locomotives, still cool though!
On a first cursory inspection of Internet search results, I could not find info on a Pennsy 4-6-0 numbered 3246. I tried this because I am so tantalized by the Pennsy keystone on the front of boiler! But we never know for certain the history of the old models. So thank you for a great video.
That is a drive system that looks older then IHC. I love the fact it needed minor things and is a great runner. A very nice score for such a unique locomotive.
@@SMTMainline yeah that's the best part. I like it when they easy. Ive had my fair share. Except run better that i cleaned the comutator gaps. Ill be glad to have that layout back up and running
As several people have stated it's a PRR G5. PRR was in the fortunate position to buy the right tools for the job when they needed commuter engines in western Pennsylvania instead of down grading older motive power. A G5 was about as modern a Ten Wheeler as you could find. That made them efficient and. since they were new, much less of a maintenance hog, saving operating and running repair costs. The combination of comparative low drivers and lots of weight on the drivers meant they had lots of tractive effort for their size, which meant rapid acceleration from station stops - essential in a commuter engine. Pennsylvania Railroad class G5 - Wikipedia Some also operated on branch lines. I make that assumption at Bellefonte, where my Nittany Valley Railroad meets the PRR's Lewisburg & Tyrone, a backwoods and farm country branch that meandered from around Williamsport, through Bellefonte to a junction at Milesburg with the PRR's Bald Eagle Branch. Lewisburg and Tyrone Railroad - Wikipedia I operate the L&T with a G5 for passengers and H6b and H9 Consolidations for freight. The Bald Eagle Branch hosts a K4s on the passenger run between Altoona and Lock Haven, a L1s, does the road switching, an I1s the drag freight chores and a M1 handles the daily manifest. The actual Bellefonte station has been preserved, although the L&T has been torn up. Then www.ebay.com/itm/Bellefonte-Pennsylvania-Train-Station-Vintage-Postcard-AA27322-/303815985575 and today jbritton.pennsyrr.com/images/BF_Bellefonte/bellefonte_train_station.jpg
@@SMTMainline that reminds me... the whistle on the NYC Niagara was located on the front left side above the smokebox. The bell was located on the bottom right behind the cowcatcher.
This seems to be a kludge of many parts from many places. The tender could be IHC, but the trucks have been changed, the locomotive, without being able to see it, I would guess is a Penn-line or Bowser, I would guess Penn-line by the circut board material on the bottom and if the whole thing is soild diecast. The rods are a mystery, they don't look Roundhouse or Penn-line, they could even be from a brass engine? Best guesses from me, and you are quite correct in saying, a marvelous find for $10
It appears that the locomotive has been modified a bit. The pick-ups to the drive wheels don't appear to be original but "home made". I did something similar to another steam loco as the tender just doesn't have enough electrical continuity to keep the locomotive running.
What recording equipment do you use and editing software. I have a standard and o gauge rail road and would like to teach people how to work on these older locos. I have been watching you content for around five months now and love it. Keep up the great work
I’m gonna be making a smallHO layout soon and I wanna know what I should do for roads, I was thinking of just using card board since it would probably be fast and easy but I know there is pavement like stuff you can get too
Hallo . Lokomotive is a modified Liliput Vienna model. Original ist the Tender hold with a Short bar with hole Benith the end of the Lokomotive on a Bolt. One Wire goes to the Axel contact of the Tender. ( Ex DB BR 38 2 C [ 4-6]). I Restaurted one myself . Greetings from Clemens in Vienna Austria.
AHM/Riv sold the Casey Jones ten wheeler, but it had the pizza cutter flanges. The open pole motor and undercarriage looks common to the early 60s...which only Mantua, Roundhouse and Bowser were carrying into the 70s and 80s. But this isn't a Mantua, best guess. This might be Roundhouse. I thought it may be Mehano till I saw the works.
After watching this, I looked it up on an old catalog. "Life Like" believe it or not. Runs much better than most LL...because it is a German loco drivetrain (probably Faller) with a PRR shell. I thought that pilot and the cylinders looked weird. Good looking mashup. Fix the pilot and it's a good East Coast early century commuter service model.
TomLuTon - yes you are right that does look like a Pennsy (and some Great Northern) signature Belpaire firebox. In fact, the Pennsy Class G5 is 4-6-0 and I do believe that is what the model is. Many details are the same from both side views. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_G5 Even the tender looks like a type that was commonly used with the G5 class locos (although some G5 locos used primarily on the Pennsy-owned Long Island Railroad had tenders that were close to those paired with most of the Pennsy K4s Pacific locos).
To my knowledge this engine is a Life Like rather an IHC engine. To my knowledge Life Like was the only manufacturer to produced the PRR G5 in HO scale RTR and motor looks very similar if not identical to other Life Like engines I own of a similar age to this one.
Not sure that's IHC as they tended to keep their offerings a bit more generic. Definitely a company that either didn't care if the locomotive was specific to one railroad or purchased the dies from a higher end company that went under. It does look like that might have been a Pennsy locomotive that was repainted and decaled.
Nah, that is a Pennsylvania Railroad engine. The squared of firebox, called a Belpar and the keystone symbol and the pilot are dead giveaways. Model makers often place roadnames on models the actual railroad never had. They may have had locos with the same wheel arrangement but the boiler, cabs, the attachments are different. In this case that model is modeled after a PRR G5 with CN markings. The Canadian National did have ten wheelers too but you can easily see the differences. And that is not an IHC or Rivarossi model. The construction is all wrong. I suspect it is of European manufacture, maybe Marklin?
It's from Lilliput of Vienna Austria. Almost all their products were for two rail DC. So a permanent magnet motor. Used an existing 4-6-0 chassis for a German BR38 class but tooled a new body and tender to make a near enough Pennsy G5 hoping to start big sales to the US market in the late sixties or early seventies. Marklin are all 3 rail AC motors so no magnets in their motors
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Good job getting it running well. Helped that it was really a good quality product to start with before someone messed some things up with it
Although sold by Lifelike or similar re boxing companies, It's actually from Lilliput of Vienna Austria. Almost all their products were for two rail DC. So a permanent magnet motor. Used an existing 4-6-0 chassis for a German BR38 class but tooled a new body and tender to make a near enough Pennsy G5. They were hoping to start big sales to the US market in the late sixties or early seventies.
Often catered for the surprising acceptance of putting any road name on a product unique to one Railroad company. Even today NYC Niagras sold as a UP locomotive and similar ideas
Quite a few US re boxer companies like Life Like , AHM and IHC that never produced any equipment other than boxes. Often screwing down European and East Asian real manufacturers to the very lowest price. Sometimes the delays in payment or non payment sent the real skilled and productive companies broke. Sometimes numerous manufactures products sold by them. Sometimes seeking out cheaper and nastier products over time. So with the boxing companies you need quite a bit of knowledge to work out if the product is really from a good maker or not so good.
Lilliput usually very good for the time but eventually taken over by Bachmann Europe still selling as Lilliput but with Bachmann ideas about design and pricing.
The Belpair firebox is a dead giveaway to its Pennsy origins. Also CNR 4-6-0s were numbered 1000-1628
No surprises here, Harrison -- she's a runner. It's in great condition as well.
Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍
It sure didn't require much
Definitely a Life-Like G-5 model from the early 70s . I had one of these back then .They were very good runners especially if you broke them in properly.
Pennsylvania G5s class 4-6-0. How did that CN logo get there ? ☺ These were passenger locomotives built at Juniata and used by PRR on commuter runs from about the mid 1920's to about the mid 1950's. They were used on the Long Island Railroad. Only two roads PRR and Great Northern used that Belpaire firebox.
They'll slap any logo on it if the manufacturers can make a buck
I would bet it was sold new as PRR, but someone stuck a CN decal on the tender.
@@VintageRoadRail Or they had two locos and mixed up the tenders by accident?
A quite large amount of other exotic railways used it
Fantasy Piece
Sweet simple and fun. Great looking loco. Love the steam engines, always. Thanks for a great video Harrison. 💜😊💜
Thank you!
1:40 "lets try cranking up the power a little bit here"
*turns power up all the way*
Harrison, watching your videos encouraged me to diagnose and cure my 2-8-0 that had a drive problem. The worm gear somehow worked its was forward on the shaft. Fixed. Thanks!
Well done, Harrison. Our train club member will be the envy of everyone who sees him run the restored engine on our layout -- not to mention everyone else who watches the miracles you work on a regular basis. Keep up the informative and entertaining effort you devote to this channel for our benefit. Regards.
Thanks a bunch. I can't wait to give them both back, hopefully tomorrow.
Great save!!! However...myself - I would melt that heat shrink tubing with a soldering iron rather than an open flame. Much safer for the rest of the wiring! And...you've got that bad boy running like it's new!!!
That would probably be best.
Now all we need is some coaches behind it and we got an excursion train
1:39 "lets crank up the power a bit" cranks it up to full power.
Straight to ludicrous speed.
thats cleary and Pennsylvania railroad locomotive with a CNR logo taped on there is no mistaking that is a PRR G5
For sure
Great video! love that CN logo! keep up the great work!!
This is a Life Like engine
Belpaire 🔥 firebox and Keystone logo make it Pennsylvania Railroad.
Nice restoration Harrison! I remember seeing these IHC steamers advertised in both Model Railroader and Model Railroad Craftsman, never bought any though since I had a preference to diesel locomotives, still cool though!
They are decent locomotives in my experience
I enjoy your repair videos as well as watching the changes to your layout. Thank you for posting.
Thanks
Nice save, as always. Thanks for showing us the magic.
On a first cursory inspection of Internet search results, I could not find info on a Pennsy 4-6-0 numbered 3246. I tried this because I am so tantalized by the Pennsy keystone on the front of boiler! But we never know for certain the history of the old models. So thank you for a great video.
Thanks
Good find also getting it running. your job on the city along with the track is perfect. Thank you very much for a great video. 😀❤
Thanks a bunch!
When we have SMT mainline it always runs again! 😊
10 dollars what a bargain, nice to see it running again. 🚂☮️😀
Yoooooo a G5s! My favorite PRR steamer! Would love to have one of these in my collection one day.
That's a cursed locomotive: it's a weirdly proportioned PRR G5 masquerading with what looks to be Canadian National #89's tender and a fake number.
This was made by Lilliput and sold by Life Like.
Interesting.
Look at that a recalcitrant IHC falls to the skill of Harrison. Great work and awsome video.
Absolutely
Hi Harrison the G-5 LIRR had them back in the day mid 50's be Well!!!
That is a drive system that looks older then IHC. I love the fact it needed minor things and is a great runner. A very nice score for such a unique locomotive.
She didn't need much to work well again
@@SMTMainline yeah that's the best part. I like it when they easy. Ive had my fair share. Except run better that i cleaned the comutator gaps. Ill be glad to have that layout back up and running
You did good fix in’ that loco! I’d never figured it out and got it running again. I’ve never seen so many wires and such on a steamer like that.
The wiring was pretty messy.
ps they also sold the German version in all black lettered for pennsy
As several people have stated it's a PRR G5. PRR was in the fortunate position to buy the right tools for the job when they needed commuter engines in western Pennsylvania instead of down grading older motive power. A G5 was about as modern a Ten Wheeler as you could find. That made them efficient and. since they were new, much less of a maintenance hog, saving operating and running repair costs. The combination of comparative low drivers and lots of weight on the drivers meant they had lots of tractive effort for their size, which meant rapid acceleration from station stops - essential in a commuter engine.
Pennsylvania Railroad class G5 - Wikipedia
Some also operated on branch lines. I make that assumption at Bellefonte, where my Nittany Valley Railroad meets the PRR's Lewisburg & Tyrone, a backwoods and farm country branch that meandered from around Williamsport, through Bellefonte to a junction at Milesburg with the PRR's Bald Eagle Branch.
Lewisburg and Tyrone Railroad - Wikipedia
I operate the L&T with a G5 for passengers and H6b and H9 Consolidations for freight. The Bald Eagle Branch hosts a K4s on the passenger run between Altoona and Lock Haven, a L1s, does the road switching, an I1s the drag freight chores and a M1 handles the daily manifest.
The actual Bellefonte station has been preserved, although the L&T has been torn up. Then
www.ebay.com/itm/Bellefonte-Pennsylvania-Train-Station-Vintage-Postcard-AA27322-/303815985575
and today
jbritton.pennsyrr.com/images/BF_Bellefonte/bellefonte_train_station.jpg
Would you ever consider removing the screw in the smokestack to install a smoke unit? Maybe also a DCC decoder and a sound system.
I hope you saved the bell! It started out fine but was badly bent after servicing. Good save on the electrical and lubrication side of things.👍
I glued it back after.
@@SMTMainline that reminds me... the whistle on the NYC Niagara was located on the front left side above the smokebox. The bell was located on the bottom right behind the cowcatcher.
ive seen old pics of this type of steam train go through my city. would have been a magnificant sight
Another great save 👍 Still wondering if it’s a Pennsylvania locomotive?
Looks like a CN sticker on the coal car. Another great fix. Another great video.
I wonder why they didn't remove the PRR logo.
This seems to be a kludge of many parts from many places. The tender could be IHC, but the trucks have been changed, the locomotive, without being able to see it, I would guess is a Penn-line or Bowser, I would guess Penn-line by the circut board material on the bottom and if the whole thing is soild diecast. The rods are a mystery, they don't look Roundhouse or Penn-line, they could even be from a brass engine? Best guesses from me, and you are quite correct in saying, a marvelous find for $10
I think many parts aren't stock as well however many have suggested most of it was made by Life-Like.
Its made by Lilput in Austria imported and sold by Life Like in the late 1960's. Its a Pennsy G5s 4-6-0.
Great video. Can't wait to see finished Hershey plant and some trains running around it. 😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🚚
She'll be done sometime this year hopefully.
Very Quiet. The Chippewa Northern shop crew are impressed.
Really unique engine there.
Nice find. I thought it was Bowser, IHC did not make a model like this.
It looks to be A PRR G5 turned CN 4-6-O it looks good though.keep up the good work SMT :)
Its a prr g5
@@necjerseyrailfan7500 that makes more sense I'm more of a B&O/Erie guy
Thanks
The way the locomotive was built look the same as my new nyc L4A Mohawk.
Wow BEAUTIFUL engine such an amazing job, Keep up the good work dude
model was made for life like by Lilliput of Austria in the 70,s. they took the drive of a German p38 loco and made a pennsy g,5 out of it
Thanks for sharing.
Great video! Wish I could find $10 dollar engines in Tampa area!
They usually aren't that cheap here.
Looks like a Bowser. Had one of those.
Nice!
My question is, was that G5 a PRR original? Or did somebody reletter it for Canadian National?
I suspect it was redone by someone.
Do you think Canadian national actually had that type of locomotive?
Same wheel combination but not the same loco.
It appears that the locomotive has been modified a bit. The pick-ups to the drive wheels don't appear to be original but "home made". I did something similar to another steam loco as the tender just doesn't have enough electrical continuity to keep the locomotive running.
As always great video! Where can I pick up one of those carbon fiber pens? A link would be great. Thanks!
Fiberglass pencil: amzn.to/2VeB6CU (affiliate) USA
@@SMTMainline Thanks again my friend!
Are ihc models rare? I never see them anymore
What recording equipment do you use and editing software. I have a standard and o gauge rail road and would like to teach people how to work on these older locos. I have been watching you content for around five months now and love it. Keep up the great work
I use an Iphone 11 and Imovie. Nothing too fancy but it gets the job done.
I’m gonna be making a smallHO layout soon and I wanna know what I should do for roads, I was thinking of just using card board since it would probably be fast and easy but I know there is pavement like stuff you can get too
I just used drywall plaster and painted over it.
Hallo . Lokomotive is a modified Liliput Vienna model. Original ist the Tender hold with a Short bar with hole Benith the end of the Lokomotive on a Bolt. One Wire goes to the Axel contact of the Tender. ( Ex DB BR 38 2 C [ 4-6]). I Restaurted one myself . Greetings from Clemens in Vienna Austria.
This. Liliput indeed, lots of BR38 parts in there.
Thanks for sharing.
To my knowledge IHC never produced a 4-6-0, is it possible that’s a brass import?
Nice job👍
Rico 4-6-0 I painted one in Southern in the 90s
"Let's try cranking up the power a just little here."
Proceeds to turn it all the way up.
No weak measures lol
Smtmainline I do have a question that thing u were using wat is it
Which thing?
@@SMTMainline that thing u clean ur locomotive trucks wit wat is it
The 460 looks like the train in back to the future train 131
What is the purpose of that circuit board on the bottom?
Some likely aftermarket part to help pick up power.
hi smt i have been watching from 2019 i am a big fan
Thanks
What oil and grease do you use
Labelle 102 and 106
7:00 what is the correct name of this tool????
To me it looked like a small socket attachment for his hand tool.
@@hondachopper6978 It's certainly a miniature socket of some sort.
Do u use all your locomotives or do u sell them
I sell ones I don't want to my local hobby store. Some are sent in so those are sticking around plus the ones I bought specifically for my collection.
I will buy the ones u r selling
Thats a Pennsy G5s model.. Would you be willing to sell it?
Kool video 🚂❤️😎👍
Cool engine!😎🤩🤩 and it seems almost as fast as sonic the hedgehog Alone
With the dual badging will just say in make-believe land, it was a lease unit one side or the other🚂🇨🇦🙋
I think they tried to make it CN
That design looks like it was based off the Pennsylvania Railroad G5 4-6-0
Like the new thumbnail that you did
Thanks, I think it looks better.
Awesome 👍
I never knew that ihc had ever made models of 4-6-0 steam locomotives.
AHM/Riv sold the Casey Jones ten wheeler, but it had the pizza cutter flanges.
The open pole motor and undercarriage looks common to the early 60s...which only Mantua, Roundhouse and Bowser were carrying into the 70s and 80s. But this isn't a Mantua, best guess.
This might be Roundhouse. I thought it may be Mehano till I saw the works.
@@STho205 thanks for the info.
After watching this, I looked it up on an old catalog. "Life Like" believe it or not. Runs much better than most LL...because it is a German loco drivetrain (probably Faller) with a PRR shell. I thought that pilot and the cylinders looked weird.
Good looking mashup. Fix the pilot and it's a good East Coast early century commuter service model.
Nice track side run-by! Not a fan of that S curve you added.
It's would be a shame for a beautiful Loco not to run. Also my rivarossi 4-4-0 wobbles on the train any way to fix that
Check to make sure the metal part of the wheels hasn't come loose.
Anything else I need to know? (other device)
U shud do a layout tour
I think thats a life like ten wheeler
I know what you mean, isn't the case railroad used closed cab engines
Greetings Harrison
probably a rivarossi or roco OEM loco
💯💯💯 EL GATO NERFF!!!!!
I don't believe IHC made 4-6-0s.
Maybe so
TomLuTon - yes you are right that does look like a Pennsy (and some Great Northern) signature Belpaire firebox. In fact, the Pennsy Class G5 is 4-6-0 and I do believe that is what the model is. Many details are the same from both side views.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_G5
Even the tender looks like a type that was commonly used with the G5 class locos (although some G5 locos used primarily on the Pennsy-owned Long Island Railroad had tenders that were close to those paired with most of the Pennsy K4s Pacific locos).
To my knowledge this engine is a Life Like rather an IHC engine. To my knowledge Life Like was the only manufacturer to produced the PRR G5 in HO scale RTR and motor looks very similar if not identical to other Life Like engines I own of a similar age to this one.
I think you're right.
hi smt
Redecal the tender for PRR and get some hvywght pax cars.
0:58 that’s a Pennsylvania locomotive not Canadian national
It's called desoldering not resoldering
Not sure that's IHC as they tended to keep their offerings a bit more generic. Definitely a company that either didn't care if the locomotive was specific to one railroad or purchased the dies from a higher end company that went under. It does look like that might have been a Pennsy locomotive that was repainted and decaled.
Apparently it's by Life like (made by Lilliput)
Nah, that is a Pennsylvania Railroad engine. The squared of firebox, called a Belpar and the keystone symbol and the pilot are dead giveaways.
Model makers often place roadnames on models the actual railroad never had. They may have had locos with the same wheel arrangement but the boiler, cabs, the attachments are different. In this case that model is modeled after a PRR G5 with CN markings. The Canadian National did have ten wheelers too but you can easily see the differences.
And that is not an IHC or Rivarossi model. The construction is all wrong. I suspect it is of European manufacture, maybe Marklin?
It's from Lilliput of Vienna Austria. Almost all their products were for two rail DC. So a permanent magnet motor. Used an existing 4-6-0 chassis for a German BR38 class but tooled a new body and tender to make a near enough Pennsy G5 hoping to start big sales to the US market in the late sixties or early seventies.
Marklin are all 3 rail AC motors so no magnets in their motors
😉👍💪💪
light not working
It is, it's just dim.
@@SMTMainline still love all the hard work you put into it
hello
Life like no IHC
Definitely not IHC. They never marketed a 4-6-0 steam engine anyway.
that is an early 70s life like made by rock not ihc
Is it normal in Canada to have a random set of medieval armor??
Yes, keeps us safe from urban grizzly bears while you harvest maple syrup.