Wow what a unique drive system and you know harrison the music is a nice touch its like music anders enger jensen makes also its like how the How its Made tv series has the background music . very nice I gotta say. Even the fade in and out when you talk gives that feeling of how show was edited. Announcer: On SMT Mainline Repairing/ Restoring Locomotives, then chat and view running trains on live streams , and then How toos, layout updates ,and more on SMT Mainline. :-)
Harrison is the Model Railroad Chief Service Technician! I envy him and his hands.. lol To be young again to due exquisite surgical work on my locomotives.. (All in storage with possible flea,spider eggs in them.. lol )
Way to go, Harrison! Let's call this a fortunate success. Although it wasn't powerful enough, nice job getting the original motor operational considering the seized condition. That's why I cannot stress buying inexpensive donor locomotives to have on hand for just such an occasion. Fortunately you found what you needed among the parts sent by Nathan DeLay. She's a runner. Huzzah! Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍
Super glue with a bit of baking soda will revitalize those gears, also assorted bags of plastic gears found on ebay or in hobby stores that sell trains will usually have a few of the ones you need.
This vintage of Rivarossi motor was prone to seizure if left sitting for a decade or more. That was a valiant effort you made to fix it, though. This split drivetrain was used in Rivarossi Alco Century models in the 70's. Also, the very first year of the TYCO C-630 was built on a slightly modified version of this chassis by Rivarossi, is extremely hard to find, and likewise to maintain. Unfortunately the chassis Rivarossi built for TYCO was not as well built as this one (snap-fit shell and gear box instead of screws) nor is it interchangeable. I have 2 of them, but only enough parts to make 1 run, and so they can be difficult to restore or service. TYCO abandoned this chassis after the 1st year and remade all their C630 shells to take their own Power-Torque truck instead. To be honest, these are some rather noisy drives and the long shell body only helps amplify the gearbox noise, lol! AHM & Life-Like kept selling this model, (built by Mehano) but with a slender center-mounted can motor and drive out each end, dispensing with the noisy center transfer case used in this chassis.
@SMT Mainline Have you 'had' any locomotives that 'sparked' and caught fire in your tests? I heard of a friend in Texas got a 'used' locomotive, put on the track with power on, it got hot, and caught fire, because he got distracted... then again, the videos I see so far, it's some common corrosive/oxidation on the motor, the springs to the brushes worn out.. The power pack 'did' make a loud buzzy noise... some thought it was the dryer buzzer... some people don't understand, these are electric motors and have needs of keeping the motor serviced... My Dad 'did' salvage some Bachmann, Tyco locomotives with the same issue, the Blue Box Atherns are so cool.. I had an F9 Amtrak that ran good.. I got spoiled on the horn hook couplers.. AHM and Mantua were the 'caddilac' of locomotives... but then again, put a nice stout motor in a cheapo locomotive, Franken-change a cheapo into a caddilac.. ;)
My Dad bought a Rivarossi Northern Paciific U25 around 1979. It was one of the last locos I ran on the old layout at my grandparents. The last time I went there around 2012 a few years before my grandfather died. I dug around and found that loco. It never ran that well and it had been stored in the basement and the handrails had rusted. I ended up buying a nearly unused boxed one to run and my "original" I keep for display and nostalgia. Thanks for the vid!
You sped up the re-assembly so fast that I needed to slow down the playback speed to 0.25 to see it. That drunk sounding, word slurring Harrison made me laugh so hard I was literally crying! Thanks for making my day.🤣
Yea those motors are the weak-spot of every old Rivarossi loco, and I still couldn't find a replacement brush for my V160, the old ones simply crumbled, but the Altaya made ones are not much better neither.
Not many railroads had the G.E. U25C Northern Pacific, Louisville & Nashville, and Pennsylvania among a coue others. The AHM model, imported in the 1970's, was billed at the time as the most powerful diesel in the AHM line. 👋
The pin he used is a electrician’s cleaning pin. Some use carbon filaments, some use fiberglass filaments, to clean any surface quickly for better electrical contact. They can be found online. I like to use the fiberglass ones but be careful they can clean right though your skin because the fibers are like hairs sticking out the tip.
You forgot the small plastic washer in the motor. The magnets are not coated. It's a kind of (dirt cheap) plastic magnets made from plastics and pulverized ferrit magnets. Like the flexible ones on you refrigerator. They're dirt cheap as making them any shape it just like plastics. Ferrits on the other hand require more complicated manyfacturing, custom molds and machining afterwards.
One small problem, ATSF never had any U25C's. It did have 16 U25B's. They were painted in the Blue and Yellow freight livery, not the Red and Silver Warbonnet
SMT Mainline I’m in the UK and we have a few shops that specialise in North American models , I had some Old B&O Athearn heavyweight cars and also added 2 Rivarossi and could clearly see they were larger more like the OO we use here than HO so I took them back as didn’t look right at all on the track, that’s when the shop manager (who was the Rivarossi importer to the U.K.) told me they use the odd 1/80 scale for HO even the European models, 1/80 is the HO standard for Japan!
Hello SMT can you make a video of how to make a dummie engine because I have this Chessie system GP 40 that the gears got broken and I don't know how to repair it. Thanks
I redid a motor like this several years ago with all the rust fuze, I used a wire wheel in my Dremel and that worked just fine.I had to grind some of the metal off the armature lobes till it rotated freely. I cleaned everything and it RAN and ran better than several I didn't need to fix. Lucky me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soak it in atf if you are worried about breaking something. After cleaning you can shoot it with electronics cleaner available at any auto parts store. Enjoy the videos!
How do you fix Your ho train engine I want to know how to fix My own ho Train engine At Home I Do not know how to fix Homeho skill Engine Could you teach me how to fix My on trains ? SM trains . Please help Me.
How many cars can this unit pull? I have a Rivarossi E8 units and they have a hell of a time pulling 3 AHM passenger cars. I transferred the body to an Atlas chassis. Now it pulls 8 passenger cars! The motors in Rivarossi engines are a joke.
Rivarossi locomotives aren't known for having amazing pulling capacity but it should be able to pull more than 3 cars. Sometimes the traction tires on them wear out which might be why it was having trouble.
Don't know if I'm allowed to do this but here's an Aussie 38 restored. Seeing your interested in Aussie loco's. th-cam.com/video/s803FtznAhY/w-d-xo.html This is near where I live. I did not do the videoing. I used to work as a Signal Electrician apprentice on this line back in the early 70's.
I have several locos with slight variations of that drive shaft system, an Athern blue-box,an old Penn-Line GG1, as well as a Marx shunter, that while a single truck loco has a slot for a transmission bar quite similar to a Penn-Line Loco my grandfather had
I was drilling a screw into a board and the drill slipped and went into my thumb... It's alright though, it didn't really hurt much and healed back to normal.
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Wow what a unique drive system and you know harrison the music is a nice touch its like music anders enger jensen makes also its like how the How its Made tv series has the background music . very nice I gotta say. Even the fade in and out when you talk gives that feeling of how show was edited. Announcer: On SMT Mainline Repairing/ Restoring Locomotives, then chat and view running trains on live streams , and then How toos, layout updates ,and more on SMT Mainline. :-)
Harrison is the Model Railroad Chief Service Technician! I envy him and his hands.. lol To be young again to due exquisite surgical work on my locomotives.. (All in storage with possible flea,spider eggs in them.. lol )
Way to go, Harrison! Let's call this a fortunate success. Although it wasn't powerful enough, nice job getting the original motor operational considering the seized condition. That's why I cannot stress buying inexpensive donor locomotives to have on hand for just such an occasion. Fortunately you found what you needed among the parts sent by Nathan DeLay. She's a runner. Huzzah!
Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍
I turned my bachmann union Pacific into a dummy because it has cracked gears
I did this to a Bachmann about a week ago... I had some replacement gears, but I also wanted a dummy Santa Fe loco.
Glad I’m not the only one making old engines into push pull engines.
Project 29 I’ve taken a few logos and done the exact same thing. Now I have spare parts for other projects 👍
- JP
Super glue with a bit of baking soda will revitalize those gears, also assorted bags of plastic gears found on ebay or in hobby stores that sell trains will usually have a few of the ones you need.
3d printing tech has come a long way in the last 3 years, you could 3d print new gears
If you can’t make it run, give it a walk
😂😂
This vintage of Rivarossi motor was prone to seizure if left sitting for a decade or more. That was a valiant effort you made to fix it, though. This split drivetrain was used in Rivarossi Alco Century models in the 70's. Also, the very first year of the TYCO C-630 was built on a slightly modified version of this chassis by Rivarossi, is extremely hard to find, and likewise to maintain. Unfortunately the chassis Rivarossi built for TYCO was not as well built as this one (snap-fit shell and gear box instead of screws) nor is it interchangeable. I have 2 of them, but only enough parts to make 1 run, and so they can be difficult to restore or service. TYCO abandoned this chassis after the 1st year and remade all their C630 shells to take their own Power-Torque truck instead. To be honest, these are some rather noisy drives and the long shell body only helps amplify the gearbox noise, lol! AHM & Life-Like kept selling this model, (built by Mehano) but with a slender center-mounted can motor and drive out each end, dispensing with the noisy center transfer case used in this chassis.
I’m so glad you got a cradle. It always scared me that you would break something just sitting it on that wood table! 😂
I agree with the wooden work table being questionable. I use a piece of slate tile and cover it with foam.
The cradle was one of the best things I have ever bought
@SMT Mainline Have you 'had' any locomotives that 'sparked' and caught fire in your tests? I heard of a friend in Texas got a 'used' locomotive, put on the track with power on, it got hot, and caught fire, because he got distracted... then again, the videos I see so far, it's some common corrosive/oxidation on the motor, the springs to the brushes worn out.. The power pack 'did' make a loud buzzy noise... some thought it was the dryer buzzer... some people don't understand, these are electric motors and have needs of keeping the motor serviced... My Dad 'did' salvage some Bachmann, Tyco locomotives with the same issue, the Blue Box Atherns are so cool.. I had an F9 Amtrak that ran good.. I got spoiled on the horn hook couplers.. AHM and Mantua were the 'caddilac' of locomotives... but then again, put a nice stout motor in a cheapo locomotive, Franken-change a cheapo into a caddilac.. ;)
This is the only video I could find of a vintage rivarossi u25c, thanks for uploading!
I am seriously blown away with this one .... Hands Down .... Speachless!!!!
This is why it's such a great idea to have spare parts, specially motors, gears, screws and wheels from the brand of locos one has.
This honestly feels like a DIY video, or even a "How To" video, hmmmm
Nice loco! Is the fuel tank zamac? Looks like it's getting zinc rot :/
I can’t stop laughing SMT said I’m going to tap it but beats it up instead😂😂😂😂 trust me I would do the same 5:29
My Dad bought a Rivarossi Northern Paciific U25 around 1979. It was one of the last locos I ran on the old layout at my grandparents. The last time I went there around 2012 a few years before my grandfather died. I dug around and found that loco. It never ran that well and it had been stored in the basement and the handrails had rusted. I ended up buying a nearly unused boxed one to run and my "original" I keep for display and nostalgia. Thanks for the vid!
You sped up the re-assembly so fast that I needed to slow down the playback speed to 0.25 to see it. That drunk sounding, word slurring Harrison made me laugh so hard I was literally crying! Thanks for making my day.🤣
Hey SMT, thanks for the great video. I was looking at some of your old videos and your restorations have grown so much, still great entertainment!
You need a dremel with brass wire wheels and a splash of pb blaster. Would do wonders
SMT you should get honrby live steam mallard! also intro would be so cool!
I got another in a PRR paint scheme if you’d like
I have the same locomotive it has a Burlington paint job
Smt how did you get the metal tabs to let go
Hey do you want a Hershey’s chocolate syrup tanker
These restorations helped me start fixing my grandfather's old bachmann steam engine
Yea those motors are the weak-spot of every old Rivarossi loco, and I still couldn't find a replacement brush for my V160, the old ones simply crumbled, but the Altaya made ones are not much better neither.
Do one of you know it was maybe made in the 80s or 90s
i have a dummy loco of that same kind .
Good job! Persistence pays off. The Rivarossi's usually pull pretty good, but a little noisy.
Hey smt I’ll be expanding my CN collection on Friday when I buy a SD40-2W
Nice.
I was just looking at a train store in google and this popped up so I decided to watch it.
I think it’s time I make a custom tyco Diesel and make it a SMT main line train with his logo on it. Congrats on 9k 😉
Good video
I had the Burlington one, it was awesome.
Not many railroads had the G.E. U25C Northern Pacific, Louisville & Nashville, and Pennsylvania among a coue others. The AHM model, imported in the 1970's, was billed at the time as the most powerful diesel in the AHM line.
👋
Smt work on the blue goose next
We have the same type of pocket knife! Mine just has a wood texture on the sides and has my name carved in it.
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What is that pen-looking thing you used on the commutator? Appears to work quite well
The pin he used is a electrician’s cleaning pin. Some use carbon filaments, some use fiberglass filaments, to clean any surface quickly for better electrical contact. They can be found online. I like to use the fiberglass ones but be careful they can clean right though your skin because the fibers are like hairs sticking out the tip.
You forgot the small plastic washer in the motor.
The magnets are not coated. It's a kind of (dirt cheap) plastic magnets made from plastics and pulverized ferrit magnets. Like the flexible ones on you refrigerator. They're dirt cheap as making them any shape it just like plastics. Ferrits on the other hand require more complicated manyfacturing, custom molds and machining afterwards.
One small problem, ATSF never had any U25C's. It did have 16 U25B's. They were painted in the Blue and Yellow freight livery, not the Red and Silver Warbonnet
I would have flooded it with contact cleaner/WD40/penetrating lubricant, let it soak and flooded it again, rinse repeat/
I was surprised to see how much rust was in that motor i did not expect there to be rust.
Is that 1/80 I remember having sold old rivarossi in the early 80s and they were all to 1/80 scale
I didn't notice that. I wonder why they would make it 1:80 instead of 1:87 scale
SMT Mainline I’m in the UK and we have a few shops that specialise in North American models , I had some
Old B&O Athearn heavyweight cars and also added 2 Rivarossi and could clearly see they were larger more like the OO we use here than HO so I took them back as didn’t look right at all on the track, that’s when the shop manager (who was the Rivarossi importer to the U.K.) told me they use the odd 1/80 scale for HO even the European models, 1/80 is the HO standard for Japan!
You keep mentioning bearings in all your videos while those are actually bushings, mate 😉😉😉
Hello SMT can you make a video of how to make a dummie engine because I have this Chessie system GP 40 that the gears got broken and I don't know how to repair it. Thanks
I redid a motor like this several years ago with all the rust fuze, I used a wire wheel in my Dremel and that worked just fine.I had to grind some of the metal off the armature lobes till it rotated freely. I cleaned everything and it RAN and ran better than several I didn't need to fix. Lucky me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy a WALMART dremel only $30.00 , it has a wire brush works wonders on rust
get two brushes the same from carbon---yes, you have to reduce the size from larger--ball.point pen springs for tension
I just bought one of these, and the fuel tank is crumbling with Metal Fatigue, any idea on what I can do to repair the fuel tank?
Hey SMT, do a video about your favorite trains.
Also what controller do you use?
harrrison- you sure like the rivarossi units..... it's practically a swear word in n scale clubs- like lima.
You have SO many patients. Its ridiculous
Soak it in atf if you are worried about breaking something. After cleaning you can shoot it with electronics cleaner available at any auto parts store.
Enjoy the videos!
this is so helpful lol, i had the same issue with the same loco in a different scheme
Good candidate for an eBay 15x15 square 6 pole motor. They are excellent
That "carbon looking" brush is probably graphite - like maybe a pencil lead?
This comment has no memes? I will fix that
*this is amazing, I have looked at this for 6 hours*
I’m impressed that you got that motor to run even if you didn’t use it . Wow!
you will need to get some crc 2-26 multi purpose lubricant spray i used it before on must of my u25c fleet
I wish I had that! I love the U-Boats and it would fit great with the other units on my layout
How do you fix Your ho train engine I want to know how to fix My own ho Train engine At Home I Do not know how to fix Homeho skill Engine Could you teach me how to fix My on trains ? SM trains . Please help Me.
Bummer about the original motor, but it is what it is. Noisy runner, but a runner. Thanks
You might invest in a small jug of evaporust works better than vinegar.
Ciao, sei stato bravissimo a rimettere a nuovo questo vecchio Rivarossi. Sei un mago dei trenini. Ciao
great video SMT Mainline liked 🚄👍
Love the video. I don’t know how they did it, but the warbonnet paint scheme looks good on just about every diesel locomotive.
Except ATSF had no U25C's and as a freight loco it would have been in the blue rather the Warbonnet scheme
This might be a candidate for one of those Ebay motors you bought????
I have two IHC SD 40 s. Did you ever do a show on an IHC unit? Tkankks John
No one
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3:29 OMG, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR THUMBS NAIL?
Can someone send a link to the carbon fiber scratch pencil he uses? Or reply to this comment
I dont like the plastic ho trains i like the ones that weight like 8 million ho pounds that are all metal but there expensive af
Smt i will donate a cam motor to replace the rusted rivarossi motor if you want it
How many cars can this unit pull? I have a Rivarossi E8 units and they have a hell of a time pulling 3 AHM passenger cars. I transferred the body to an Atlas chassis. Now it pulls 8 passenger cars! The motors in Rivarossi engines are a joke.
Rivarossi locomotives aren't known for having amazing pulling capacity but it should be able to pull more than 3 cars. Sometimes the traction tires on them wear out which might be why it was having trouble.
It might’ve also gotten left outside
I have a replacement motor for you if you need one. Contact me. Cheers
Corroded motor, the engine not work, chamber new motor.
U could toss a cheap eBay can motor in this
Don't know if I'm allowed to do this but here's an Aussie 38 restored. Seeing your interested in Aussie loco's.
th-cam.com/video/s803FtznAhY/w-d-xo.html
This is near where I live. I did not do the videoing.
I used to work as a Signal Electrician apprentice on this line back in the early 70's.
Thanks, I enjoyed that. I don't really mind links just as long as their relevant and not self promotion.
If there is a will there is a way. Nicely done ✅
SMT what happend to you nail??
You forgot to istall the thrust washers on the motor shaft.
Sounds like a coffee grinder
"Small hammer" *gets a full sized one*
Sounds like a lawnmower when running lol.
His thumb tgo
I have this this is the first one I have
i call the hollywood magic cheats
Can you make a T Gauge review someday?
Next time soak in WD40
I have several locos with slight variations of that drive shaft system, an Athern blue-box,an old Penn-Line GG1, as well as a Marx shunter, that while a single truck loco has a slot for a transmission bar quite similar to a Penn-Line Loco my grandfather had
That motor just screams rust
Holy crap, did you fish that out of a lake?
just buy a new mother
Ok we get it... just clean it 🤨
smt you should do another "running all my steam locomotives" I would love to see another because that is the very video that brought me to you channel
Funny you say, a lot of people have been requesting that. Maybe it's time to make a remake.
Love your videos, had many old engines that I thought were scrap, now they are all riding the rails thanks to your education videos.
Oof your thumbnail (your thumbs nail) is broken.. what happened!?
I was drilling a screw into a board and the drill slipped and went into my thumb... It's alright though, it didn't really hurt much and healed back to normal.
Wow man. Good thing it didn’t make a *hole*
why no light on the train...
Nathan DeLay saves the day!
Good job great video