Charles-Marie Widor performs his Toccata at the Cavaillé-Coll organ of Saint-Sulpice

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2023
  • The 88 years old Charles-Marie Widor
    performs his famous Toccata
    at the Cavaillé-Coll organ of Saint-Sulpice.
    Recording date: October 1932
    Listen to more music from Saint-Sulpice
    • Saint-Sulpice, Paris
    Listen to more music with Cavaillé-Coll Organs
    • Cavaillé-Coll organs
    This recording was edited directly from a shellac record.
    Enjoy the full sound of this historic recording.
    Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to this music, so any request from the rights holders will be met by me taking the video down. Thank you.
    historic.organrecordings@web.de
  • เพลง

ความคิดเห็น • 21

  • @bryanhardy3311
    @bryanhardy3311 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Having Play'd St. Sulpice 1in 1992 ( with daniel Roth present) I could feel the presence of "The Master" and his "slower" tempo ( acoustics) instinctively as i play'd. The "Room" will tell you ....how to play the great French Masters and their equivalents. B Hardy ( Australia)

  • @fordtruxdad5155
    @fordtruxdad5155 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is so much more enjoyable than the super-duper-vivace at which some attempt it.

  • @adrianvanbreda
    @adrianvanbreda ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Lovely to hear Widor playing Widor. Slower than most recent performances

    • @pauleloidelanoy
      @pauleloidelanoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, a great deal of organist play it MUCH TOO FAST nowadays !!!
      I think especially of Wayne Marshall...
      th-cam.com/video/_FZ6fO-NsCI/w-d-xo.html
      always faster and faster 😇 : th-cam.com/video/kmh3FHLz40w/w-d-xo.html
      even Daniel Roth comments his fast playing at St sulpice over here : th-cam.com/video/gh86z7YcWMc/w-d-xo.html

    • @pauleloidelanoy
      @pauleloidelanoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have a look at this very funny performance, by 3 of the best organists in the world ( and the very best one (=Olivier Latry !) ) !
      Guess how many organists are playing the same piece at the same time on the same keyboard ?? 😇😁
      th-cam.com/video/G3iMguRdddk/w-d-xo.html

    • @epincion
      @epincion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wider was in his late 70’s when this was recorded and in keeping with age his faculties were slower and this would have affected the tempo. I often wonder what it would have sounded like when he was 40.

    • @jiso5232
      @jiso5232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@epincion The tempo wasn't related to age. It's documented that he didn't like, when organists played his toccata too fast.

  • @kevinosborne3528
    @kevinosborne3528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible that its a 1932 recording !!!

  • @larryhagemann5548
    @larryhagemann5548 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is such a joy to listen to and dwell on the music itself in such wonderful accoustics.

    • @sharonfrancis5919
      @sharonfrancis5919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree.. It’s not about the”show”, but about the music itself! Love it!

  • @organchoirman9698
    @organchoirman9698 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    His innitial directions were ALL staccato, both hands. This tempo never changed but later he tried the left hand phrasing as played here. I studied this piece with one of Widor's students years ago, before Widor tried the "new" phrasing. I love the tempo here but I prefer his first instructions on total staccato. Great to have this recording!

    • @ivansantrizos8483
      @ivansantrizos8483 ปีที่แล้ว

      Total staccato? do you mean that the way Cochereau plays it in his 1959 recording is how Widor originally played it?

    • @tompw3141
      @tompw3141 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fascinating, thanks!

  • @richardrye7200
    @richardrye7200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never fails to impress! Thank you for posting.

  • @JR3714
    @JR3714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Even though its at the more popular up tempo, the rendition by Daniel Chorzempa at St Sernin has the best articulation and clarity I've ever heard, even to the point where I could hear notes I didn't even know were there. Its worth a listen.

    • @barnarus2547
      @barnarus2547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's true... one of the best, if not THE best rendition.

  • @GothMiel
    @GothMiel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    C'est très solennel avec les basses et surtout le tempo lent voulu par l'auteur.

  • @NateSassoonMusic
    @NateSassoonMusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A quote from Widor, from Vierne's autobiography:
    "Grandeur is the organ’s essential characteristic. ‘This is because, of all musical instruments, the organ alone can sustain sound indefinitely and with the same intensity. The organ can be picturesque only rarely and, even then, care must be taken not to expect it to imitate orchestral and pianistic effects. That would be an inartistic parody. Although Bach has left some miraculously descriptive works, it must be noted that pieces in this style are in a very small minority compared with those in very slow or moderate tempos. Moreover, independent of all other considerations-basic and quite important-the very nature of the organ’s sound and the absence of a percussive attack are contrary to the concept of great velocity. The organ is almost always played too fast. Young people easily yield to the desire to dazzle the audience by this means. Beware! It is a false virtuosity appropriate to the circus-not the tribune.”

  • @MrOphicleide16
    @MrOphicleide16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    St Sulpice, like all the Cavaillé-Coll, is tuned on diapason A 435 Hz at 15 °C. Here we have an A 438.5 Hz.
    If realy this toccata was recorded in october 1932 , not in summer, the diapason is too much high .
    So eiher the date of the recording is false, or this record goes too fast, even if most people think that Widor already plays slowly ...

    • @historicorganrecordings
      @historicorganrecordings  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much for this interesting information!

    • @stevepotfora7461
      @stevepotfora7461 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How wonderful the internet is that one can not only listen to the original composer but read analysis from intelligent and clever men like you. Thank you.