Thanks for the video as always fast. I hope the “maintenance” tonight isn’t to nerf her or that range. She looks pretty good and interested in her for GVG
16:10 her ult goes to the left side mobs first before hitting the boss! Her wide ult range gets affected too by the Lord's skill and gets even wider I think! AMAZING!
She's obviously pretty ridiculous, really appreciate all you do on these showcases. I asked a couple of CCs to make a video to make me regret skipping, this one really twists the knife lol. Thanks homie
@TortoiseCashFlow I imagine so, I've 200 and 10k gems so it's Beelzebub. She's in the pool, he's exclusive and the choice of which is easy. I might get her any given summoning but not Bub
I believe the devs mentioned there’s an internal cooldown on stuns applied by a single character. Something like one stun per second or something along those lines
More dps units with supplemental stun capability just gets us closer and closer reliably dropping a dedicated stunner. Next week my first run attempt toward 80k will likely be dropping Helga for Yuri and rolling with A0 Toro, A4 Hex, A0 Yuri, and A0 SWK and seeing how the stuns roll in!
nice guide as always fasti, i was going to pull her from when she was announced anyway cause of the design but now also hyped for her gvg use or future content (since the current one it's already been beat all)
You could use loans as a way to compare the damage increase. You could compare it to loan interest. There are loans that keep interest according to original balance, and there are loans that collect with compounding interest. The damage is not compounding per damage increase, but rather all going off the original damage. I know you covered this in the video, but sometimes people don't quite get it from the video.
Yeah that slow check for stuns also really affects Wukong's ability to handle stuns on this boss. I have to rely on Praetus using his Lord skill nuke and Torodor both pitching in and helping with stuns and even then, between all three of them, it will still only stun like 7 times sometimes, when I KNOW more stuns than that went out.
Thanks for the Video and the detail about her Ult jumping. I was concerned before that perhaps her ult would stop if the target moved out of her range. Glad to see it doesn't. Definitely pulling for her.
Great job as always! I think we need her in a meta comp GB2 showdown/ showcase to see what she can really do. I think her at A3 with WuKong, Twyla, Torodor and a Pope , Constance, Alistair and then 3 healers (you know the 3) to show how far that team can go. Also maybe show the difference in damage with/without the defense down.
The fact her ult spreads and just keeps happening. I can't help but to think how broken she could be in the Tide battles. If she can kill them super quick, I can't help but to think of the arrow scene in Guardians of the Galaxy
Meanwhile in Silas A0 universe: But I can do all of that upside down, with one hand behind my back. I understand that you or any of content creators have to write positive review in order to somehow justify her existance this "late" in the game right now. Perfectly acceptable, perfectly understandable and seriously, big thanks to you or any of you guys that are investing a lot of their time to give to us, some average Joes, in most cases - some premium content. Back to Yuri - We can not look at her from early game player perspective. In most cases for such player, any leggo hero is a clear upgrade to their existing team. Mid game teams have better solutions for her spot already. You made all epics guide for GR3 19+ a year ago, for the love of God :). Late/endgame - unless you want to fix your nascent list or you are a collector, she doesn't bring anything new to the table. Joke aside, no question Yuri could be at least an interesting hero, but at a3. IMHO, there is nothing in the game where she could be used, where we already don't have a better answers on challenges they put in front of us. Besides, making a team that revolves around her - nah, not worth it, she is not a Wukong caliber of a hero. Her passive in case you have Kigiri is at best ridicilous :). I was seriously laughing hard when i first read what she will provide to Kigiri as a passive skill :). First, equally useless passive combo that falls to my mind is - salazar + kineza. You need survivability (Volka scratches her ass in the background)? Fair enough. If you bring Yuri for survivability, you are doing something terribly WRONG! Frankly, as the content stands right now, she is several months too late to be even considered to be worth a spot in teams where she would normally be considered as a member. Sole reason i will summon on this banner is that they run double summoning event. Skill crystals earned from these events will have more impact on my account then Yuri :).
do it. send me a vid of silas solo clearing all four mobs at the beginning. and send me a clip of unbound silas doing close to this damage. The fact that you are even having to compare her to the best marksman in the game to make these points show it all. and this line "she is not a Wukong caliber of a hero." no one EVER would say she is and why should she be? Wukong is completely broken and if a hero like that came around once a month we would have a huge problem.
@@fastidious_gg Well man, first four mobs (5 if you count one that comes from the right side) is not a fight. Its a small fragment, but not entire fight. We both know that i can not make a video of Silas killing first 4 mobs alone, because its impossible without Silas meeting his maker. But both of us also know what Silas and Idril will do to the boss after these 5 mobs are out (ok, add first 3 kamikaze ones to the list as well). They will eat the boss, the mobs and their mother in next 15-20 seconds. My point was not to compare Silas and Yuri. I can not agree with you more that they can not be compared, it is clear as a day. My point was that we had Silas banner a week ago. My point was that you can have a freaking Liam that can do the same and more along with Idril. Can that be a proper comparison? Simpleton 2 star hero that you can get from doing random exp raid vs Yuri. Hell, my first kill on GR3 21 was with Liam, not Silas. My point was that she is not worth a hype around her, even if you really put a huge effort to make a small fragment of her kit useful somewhere. As i already said, she is too late in the game for the content and answers to these puzzles we have right now. When it comes to the future - she might be a good investment - we never know what puzzles she could make way easier then playing without her. I am really trying to justify a hunt for her and actually use her after this banner in some aspect of the game - sadly, as much as i would want to be dead wrong, i am blind to see where she could make such of a difference. EDIT: As i already wrote - i found a reason to go for this banner - double summoning event. We require more skill crystals (/protoss voice OFF)
its kinda nice to see a little more use for her. i have heard a lot of she is just kinda mid. i wont be pulling for her on my account but maybe i will get her in a nascent sometime. i am going to prioritize beelzebub. My idril is my 4th highest damage dealer on my gr3 21 team. i am going to be sharing this with a few of my friends though. They are slackers who have been playing for over a year and still cant beat gr3 21.
When you do the guides have you every thought about doing prediction rankings using your website and attached to the regular guide to the video say like at the end? Then you can go back in later videos and see if your predictions were correct.
I tell you what i just got my 26 and 27th shamir lucky me right now putting me at my 5th set of dupes since the lyra event i just love x15 events aren't they fabulous
She sounds great and I allready have Kigiri for her ... buuut we allready can preregister for the artefact from Belzebub, so I guess he comes next. I am free to play and I probably can´t do both ... now for which should I go?
Hey fasti.. weird out of the blue question for you. Is there a designated artist for WOR? One that you could send ideas to for new characters, if your not a great artist? Figured you would be the guy to ask.
I'm a noob, but as you said, Torodor for GB2 already has a 100% uptime at 20% def, so she's only really giving 5% extra. Maybe some Arbiter/piercer comp she can provide maximum value? I want to pull, but I dont have zilitu and so zilitu/beelzebub banner looking more juicy
She seem VERY good and her factions make her a can't miss IMHO. She might make piercer defenses in GvG way OP. Her AoE damage is off the charts so you won't be able to swarm those defenses as easliy!
Maybe it’s impossible to do a apples to bananas comparison, but is there anyway you could do a quick video on Yuri versus Bubba? Trying to decide who to spend my summons on.
Thanks for the guide she looks marvelous! Will definitely pull for her. I’m a newer player (60days) and missing Baron and Laurel which is causing me to be stuck on Gear Raid 19’s…hopefully I can get both (haha) while pulling for Yuri!
Sure, she can do very well in GR-3, the question is though whether she is actually necessary. As in take the same gear and artifact you use on her and put it on a different hero, Silas or otherwise. Will you still be able to clear the stage or not? At this point she's only really relevant for GR-3 if she acts as a lynchpin, which I just don't see. I do agree that GR-3 is 1 of her best contents, alongside possibly AA Arena, as it mitigates her massive weaknesses more than any other content. Take Styx as an example, yes she gets 50 hits in 10 seconds with her ultimate, however that's a hard number(as in you can't exceed it). Setram does more(especially with his unique artifact), Helga does way more, Calypso at A5 does around the same, etc. That is to say she certainly works but she's not at all top tier and certainly can't dethrone queen Helga. These massive weaknesses I mentioned are RNG in her stuns(A1), as you said the variance is huge because stuns can't overlap so if your stun distribution isn't mostly uniform some of your stuns simply won't count. Her damage is on the low end as it's always a choice between her basic attacks and talents *or* her ultimate, never both, which is a huge issue. And it's not like her ult is that amazing(damage wise) and the fact that at least theoretically it's strictly worst than her basic attacks + talents at 0.7 second attack interval and pretty even at 0.8 than even if you don't actually reach those numbers it still shows how low impact her ult is. Which leads to another, minor issue, which is her gearing. Do you gear her for max attack speed to fully utilize her talent or do you ignore attack speed(or put it on low priority) to focus on her ult, as it doesn't care what her attack speed is, it will always deal 50 hits in 10 seconds. It's basically a Lucius situation when using her ult actually comes with a major downside, except that unlike Lucius she doesn't have a talent that kicks in when you don't use her ult to compensate for it. In her case it's all downside no upside either way. Now, her defense shredding is always there and is indeed very powerful. However you can bring defense shredding on other heroes so you really need to evaluate her based on her whole package, which is mostly her damage output being primarily a DPS hero. This damage is quite simply lacking because her kit is fighting with itself. And no, I'm not asking her to be the next Sun Wukong. I'm simply asking for her kit to work well as a package rather than split the ult from the rest of the kit, and for that matter for her ult to actually do good damage, as right now it's only good for its range and number of hits.
a comment like this seems powered by the assumption everyone has silas and hatssut. i really just don't even get it. when you need single target or jump attacks you use her ult. when you need splash and aoe you let her ride basics. there's no issue. And you say you can bring Def Red from other heroes? In many comps that is just not true. Her, Amahle, Morene, and Maul are the only platformers that can land def break on a single target. If you aren't running a NM comp with Toro or Ares, she is the definitive choice. And her Red is bigger. So in a piercer comp, she makes herself, iovar, and silas all way strong for example. Pair that comp with Watcher, now SWK and Kigiri are popping off.
@@fastidious_gg It's not assuming anything. It's simply about power ranking. You mentioned she's an S, possibly S+ hero, which I heavily question and thus brought up these other heroes that are actually S/S+ to see if she actually compares with them as that's what it takes to be an S/S+ hero. I find your comment regarding her ult quite asinine to be honest. Sure, you can refrain from using it when you need the splash, but is her kit without her ult actually powerful enough to warrant fielding her in the first place? Similarly with her ult, thus without her talent and passive against single targets, does she actually perform well? Regarding her def shredding, again yes it's nice but you're not looking at it the right way. If you run her in a nightmare comp you will want to run Torodor anyway as the lord, unless for some reason you prefer the new lord(and get him of course) which right now sees rather dubious. Therefore instead of having a 25% shred she only has a 5% shred(or a bit more if you count on Torodor's uptime not being as perfect as hers), as you will have Torodor on that team regardless because he's the lord(so not just because of the def shredding). Similarly if you run her in a piercer comp, who are the other piercers you will bring? For GB2 I'd think those will be: Iovar, Silas, Hex and Talula(for the cleanse mostly, as she's also a piercer she fits perfectly). Out of all these heroes only Iovar actually benefits from her def shredding, well Silas technically does too outside his ult so heh. Hex deals magic damage and Talula is a healer so she doesn't care. Are there situations where she will be more useful? Perhaps. Are those situations going to be at least on par with the current meta teams(piercers or otherwise)? Probably not. I mean sure you can run Watchers and Piercers in GB2, but the main reason you want Watchers in GB2 is for Ingrid, Alistar and Constance, and they don't care about def shredding at all. So you're already missing out on a lot of power. Now if you're saving Ingrid and Alistar for an Arbiter comp on your other team than who else do you bring? I guess you can do SWK, Kigiri and Lyra than add utility heroes like Carnelian, Dolores, etc. That can be a solid comp if you pair your other team with Arbiters and Nightmares using Arrogance, Lust, Twyla, Torodor and whoever(or a non Nightmare utility hero) then sure, that absolutely works and is solid enough. However again is it really necessary? As in wouldn't you rather use SWK and Kigiri with Nightmares instead of Watchers for the lord bonus alone? It seems more of a crutch situation, of not having the necessary heroes so you make do with what you have, which is a good reason don't get me wrong, but shouldn't weigh too heavily when it comes to power rankings. If anything it suggests she's much more of a progression hero than the OP marksman you and so many others claim she is.
Of course she is my newest most wanted - I really like Japanese Mythology, so it does not even matter how great/bad she is. ❤ [I am a simple mythologist - I see something related to Mythology (hoping that it is not being screwed) and go for it.] To be clear, the Kitsune (actually meaning 'fox', but in this case more like 'fox spirit') is not unique to the Japanese Mythology. Here a little list, for everyone interested. 狐 (Kitsune) - Japan | Fox spirit known for its intelligence, magical abilities, and association with the deity Inari. 九尾狐 (Jiǔwěihú) - China | Nine-tailed fox, a legendary creature often portrayed as wise and powerful. 구미호 (Gumiho) - Korea | Nine-tailed fox, often depicted as a shape-shifting spirit that can take on human form. 狐狸精 (Húlijīng) - China | "Fox spirit," often a seductive being, sometimes benevolent or malevolent. จิ้งจอกเก้าหาง (Jingjok Kao Hang) - Thailand | Nine-tailed fox, similar to the Chinese and Korean versions but found in Thai folklore. कुसुम्बुरक (Kusumburaka) - India | Rare fox spirit in Indian folklore, often seen as mischievous or spiritual. 홋카이도 여우 (Hokkaido Yeou) - Korea | Hokkaido fox, often considered in connection to supernatural lore in northern Asia. Тал (Tal) - Mongolia | A fox spirit figure associated with shamanistic practices. These spirits often share traits such as intelligence, magical abilities, and the power to shape-shift, reflecting the cultural interplay and variations of the fox spirit legend across Asia.
If they do tamper with her ult before release, I hope they allow her talent to proc during her ultimate. When there’s only one target, it was tested that she actually does more damage during her basic than while during her ult.
@@novalikeastar Helga, Livian, Nazeem, Azhor are all better. That video is a clickbait and totally out of context. Just her being lucky once. She is a bad stunner. Majority of the time she will just do 2-3 stuns. There are other more reliable CC that are honest about that and do not try to overhype bad heroes.
@iliqndanov9859 overhyped?! She did well in Semrah and aced it in G3. I'm not pulling for her anyway but if I get her in future banners I won't be disappointed to much. She's OK hero and I'm sure devs will fix her chances to stun from 10 to 20 percent.
@@novalikeastar ok is not good enough. At least for me. Sorry. Already pushing 200k+ in apoc2 and she is literally gonna do nothing for me. She is cool looking, nice animations and stuff, not gonna like. But when you have limited resources and there is character like Beelzebub on the horizon, she is a skip.
I think if her stuns were more reliable it could be too op, unless, as you said, every 10 hits she inflicts a stun. But yeah if they're not gonna change anything about that in her, this 10% chance for the amount of hits she does is fair enough in my opinion
Alaura had one sliver of potential on the right side of gr3, moonton release a terrible exclusive for her which gets people hyped up for nothing, then yuri comes out and does it better lol
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I don’t watch other CCs’ guides so I just hear from you guys in the comments. I truly don’t understand what is not to be happy about here. She isn’t like god tier dps broken (which she shouldn’t be) but she is versatile and a top tier marksman
You are doing something wrong then. At A3 Wukong alone hits at least 8 every single time. Torodor is a bad stunner, not gonna lie, but she is even more unreliable, lol.
Just wanna say I use a0 Torodor and a0 SWK and I average 7-9 stuns on guild boss 2 and i have hit 160k using them only for stuns. Torodor is pretty reliable if you skill him and build him with lots of speed.
More dps units with supplemental stun capability just gets us closer and closer reliably dropping a dedicated stunner. Next week my first run attempt toward 80k will likely be dropping Helga for Yuri and rolling with A0 Toro, A4 Hex, A0 Yuri, and A0 SWK and seeing how the stuns roll in!
@@fastidious_gg The better question is when you are gonna stop post clickbaits? One lucky run is way too small sample to make such conclusions. You know she is a bad stunner and most of the time will do only 2-3 stuns.
Hotly awaited Should You Pull this week. Fasti's testing has given me second thoughts. I was planning to skip for Bubba (do not have Constance) so I have a second inspiration hero.
Kinda bad tbh we can't get proper showcases in gvg/arena for any new heroes. There are some ocasionally...but pretty meh. For some players that's the only content left, so you're stuck with having to pull because you never know if she turns out to be great. I guess that's part of Moonton's "magic" ($$$), forcing your hand between possibly missing-out or playing it safe and pulling. We have some really end-game CCs (i.e Destined,Slate,etc for GvG and Rolando+so many others for arena), but they can't put a collab togheter to test new heroes in this content. Maybe it's too time consuming, maybe end-game doesn't get many views, who knows...but their experince should really make it way easier than it sounds and who knows...people might actually watch, learn and appreciate. Or maybe I'm delusional to ask for stuff like this.
we can't. we have no one to fight there any none of our heroes are realistic BP and stuff. If I had a second test server account of we could fight ourselves I could do it lol
@@fastidious_gg yeah, I get it, saw testserver isn't that ideal, hoped maybe with some collabs you can fight eachother and gather more data. if that's not the case, then...I don't know, ask the devs for a way to improve it, that's the whole purpose of a test server. thanks for reply!
Yeah, I'm probably going to do the same. Although if the bond skill she gives to kigiri was better I'd consider pulling for her, but if that was the case kigiri could be too broken 😅
Seriously Yuri is trash, not only her damage is really low ( even with a Dolores ), her stun is inconstant, and her kit bring nothing that is really game changing 😅
Thanks for the video as always fast. I hope the “maintenance” tonight isn’t to nerf her or that range. She looks pretty good and interested in her for GVG
Damn, I’m hyped for her after the intro.
she's gets the people going!
@@fastidious_gg Guilty as charged.
well we are the people ain't we ??
16:10 her ult goes to the left side mobs first before hitting the boss! Her wide ult range gets affected too by the Lord's skill and gets even wider I think! AMAZING!
She's obviously pretty ridiculous, really appreciate all you do on these showcases. I asked a couple of CCs to make a video to make me regret skipping, this one really twists the knife lol. Thanks homie
Why would you skip? She's amazing haha. I'm gonna be sad if I spend all 40k diamonds and 80 summons and don't get her
@TortoiseCashFlow I imagine so, I've 200 and 10k gems so it's Beelzebub. She's in the pool, he's exclusive and the choice of which is easy. I might get her any given summoning but not Bub
for sure her v. bubba is a big decision. and I think anyone who already has strong marksmen should obviously choose bubba
I believe the devs mentioned there’s an internal cooldown on stuns applied by a single character. Something like one stun per second or something along those lines
More dps units with supplemental stun capability just gets us closer and closer reliably dropping a dedicated stunner. Next week my first run attempt toward 80k will likely be dropping Helga for Yuri and rolling with A0 Toro, A4 Hex, A0 Yuri, and A0 SWK and seeing how the stuns roll in!
awesome!!
nice guide as always fasti, i was going to pull her from when she was announced anyway cause of the design but now also hyped for her gvg use or future content (since the current one it's already been beat all)
Thanks fast as always
np ash!
You could use loans as a way to compare the damage increase. You could compare it to loan interest. There are loans that keep interest according to original balance, and there are loans that collect with compounding interest.
The damage is not compounding per damage increase, but rather all going off the original damage.
I know you covered this in the video, but sometimes people don't quite get it from the video.
great analogy but I think bring finance and debt into this will only confuse some people further
Yeah that slow check for stuns also really affects Wukong's ability to handle stuns on this boss. I have to rely on Praetus using his Lord skill nuke and Torodor both pitching in and helping with stuns and even then, between all three of them, it will still only stun like 7 times sometimes, when I KNOW more stuns than that went out.
I have sent evidence - re: yuri and wukong - to the devs and we are in discussions about this stun issue.
@@fastidious_gg
Ooh i’ve saw the stuns on semrah and i am so excited😂
huge variance but when it is hitting it is hitting
Thanks for the Video and the detail about her Ult jumping. I was concerned before that perhaps her ult would stop if the target moved out of her range. Glad to see it doesn't. Definitely pulling for her.
I eventually got her in the 2 for 1 summon, very happy with her.
Late night Fasti post? Let's goooooo.
She seems pretty awesome in her "department". Might be worth a summon(Kigiri boost doesn't hurt either.)
Thanks! Great research work )
Great job as always! I think we need her in a meta comp GB2 showdown/ showcase to see what she can really do. I think her at A3 with WuKong, Twyla, Torodor and a Pope , Constance, Alistair and then 3 healers (you know the 3) to show how far that team can go. Also maybe show the difference in damage with/without the defense down.
Great guide! The devs will probably fix the ultimate from jumping out of her range instead of fixing the stuns…
Keep up the great work!
nahhhhh they won't. I do think this is intended
First, keep up the great work man!
will do!
Great guide. I’m curious, will she be better under piercer lord or NM lord?
I'm a huge lover of everything Japanese, so I'll be summoning for Yuri too.
She s the hattsut twin! Thanks Fasti for thr guide!
The fact her ult spreads and just keeps happening. I can't help but to think how broken she could be in the Tide battles. If she can kill them super quick, I can't help but to think of the arrow scene in Guardians of the Galaxy
I just pulled Yuri today !
Thanks fasty
Well now I actually might pull for her. I dont have kigiri, but Yuri just seems really good. And her utility sounds insane.
Meanwhile in Silas A0 universe: But I can do all of that upside down, with one hand behind my back.
I understand that you or any of content creators have to write positive review in order to somehow justify her existance this "late" in the game right now.
Perfectly acceptable, perfectly understandable and seriously, big thanks to you or any of you guys that are investing a lot of their time to give to us, some average Joes, in most cases - some premium content.
Back to Yuri - We can not look at her from early game player perspective. In most cases for such player, any leggo hero is a clear upgrade to their existing team.
Mid game teams have better solutions for her spot already. You made all epics guide for GR3 19+ a year ago, for the love of God :).
Late/endgame - unless you want to fix your nascent list or you are a collector, she doesn't bring anything new to the table.
Joke aside, no question Yuri could be at least an interesting hero, but at a3.
IMHO, there is nothing in the game where she could be used, where we already don't have a better answers on challenges they put in front of us.
Besides, making a team that revolves around her - nah, not worth it, she is not a Wukong caliber of a hero.
Her passive in case you have Kigiri is at best ridicilous :).
I was seriously laughing hard when i first read what she will provide to Kigiri as a passive skill :).
First, equally useless passive combo that falls to my mind is - salazar + kineza.
You need survivability (Volka scratches her ass in the background)? Fair enough. If you bring Yuri for survivability, you are doing something terribly WRONG!
Frankly, as the content stands right now, she is several months too late to be even considered to be worth a spot in teams where she would normally be considered as a member.
Sole reason i will summon on this banner is that they run double summoning event. Skill crystals earned from these events will have more impact on my account then Yuri :).
do it. send me a vid of silas solo clearing all four mobs at the beginning. and send me a clip of unbound silas doing close to this damage. The fact that you are even having to compare her to the best marksman in the game to make these points show it all.
and this line "she is not a Wukong caliber of a hero." no one EVER would say she is and why should she be? Wukong is completely broken and if a hero like that came around once a month we would have a huge problem.
@@fastidious_gg Well man, first four mobs (5 if you count one that comes from the right side) is not a fight. Its a small fragment, but not entire fight.
We both know that i can not make a video of Silas killing first 4 mobs alone, because its impossible without Silas meeting his maker.
But both of us also know what Silas and Idril will do to the boss after these 5 mobs are out (ok, add first 3 kamikaze ones to the list as well).
They will eat the boss, the mobs and their mother in next 15-20 seconds.
My point was not to compare Silas and Yuri. I can not agree with you more that they can not be compared, it is clear as a day.
My point was that we had Silas banner a week ago.
My point was that you can have a freaking Liam that can do the same and more along with Idril.
Can that be a proper comparison? Simpleton 2 star hero that you can get from doing random exp raid vs Yuri.
Hell, my first kill on GR3 21 was with Liam, not Silas.
My point was that she is not worth a hype around her, even if you really put a huge effort to make a small fragment of her kit useful somewhere.
As i already said, she is too late in the game for the content and answers to these puzzles we have right now.
When it comes to the future - she might be a good investment - we never know what puzzles she could make way easier then playing without her.
I am really trying to justify a hunt for her and actually use her after this banner in some aspect of the game - sadly, as much as i would want to be dead wrong, i am blind to see where she could make such of a difference.
EDIT: As i already wrote - i found a reason to go for this banner - double summoning event. We require more skill crystals (/protoss voice OFF)
Bro that intro was the sheez nit now I want her.
its kinda nice to see a little more use for her. i have heard a lot of she is just kinda mid. i wont be pulling for her on my account but maybe i will get her in a nascent sometime. i am going to prioritize beelzebub. My idril is my 4th highest damage dealer on my gr3 21 team. i am going to be sharing this with a few of my friends though. They are slackers who have been playing for over a year and still cant beat gr3 21.
To call her mid is wild
But yea not every needs to pull for her. It’s not bubba or wukong
But she is still absolutely top tier
So I guess for the question if to summon or save the answer is gonna be "SUMMON!". If only for the reason that she has unique range and fun to play
Should i pull her or waiting for buba?
When you do the guides have you every thought about doing prediction rankings using your website and attached to the regular guide to the video say like at the end? Then you can go back in later videos and see if your predictions were correct.
It's a nice idea but my concern would be then people think those constitute official rankings
I tell you what i just got my 26 and 27th shamir lucky me right now putting me at my 5th set of dupes since the lyra event i just love x15 events aren't they fabulous
I use the lizard as lord in gr3,
Her invisibility let's her kill the right side single mobs without being killed.
Thx 👍🏻😁
She sounds great and I allready have Kigiri for her ... buuut we allready can preregister for the artefact from Belzebub, so I guess he comes next. I am free to play and I probably can´t do both ... now for which should I go?
Hey fasti.. weird out of the blue question for you. Is there a designated artist for WOR? One that you could send ideas to for new characters, if your not a great artist? Figured you would be the guy to ask.
No idea about this. sorry!
Hallo, i didnt understand, is she stronger than Hex, Nyx, or is she eaven stronger than Hatsut? So is she S or SSS? I have only Silas.
I'm a noob, but as you said, Torodor for GB2 already has a 100% uptime at 20% def, so she's only really giving 5% extra.
Maybe some Arbiter/piercer comp she can provide maximum value?
I want to pull, but I dont have zilitu and so zilitu/beelzebub banner looking more juicy
She seem VERY good and her factions make her a can't miss IMHO. She might make piercer defenses in GvG way OP. Her AoE damage is off the charts so you won't be able to swarm those defenses as easliy!
Think we all want Yuri cause we're all secretly into foxy ladies.
Oh shes a Nine tail fox too?
Thats nice
Maybe it’s impossible to do a apples to bananas comparison, but is there anyway you could do a quick video on Yuri versus Bubba? Trying to decide who to spend my summons on.
i will discuss it in the should you summon of course
@ awesome thanks
Stuck on Gear raid 3 she would be great but man Bubba is now confirmed this one is rough
Fasti I'm soo confused. Do I blow pulls on Yuri or hold out for Beelzebub?
Yuri IMO. Bubba is inspiration, unless you need that more
@@Post-Trib Think it's FOMO more than anything else. Have Dolores, Constance and Ferrsi. Also have Silas, Hex and Hatssut :)
really depends on priorities and the account. will discuss in today's video
Ty
I just got my Silas fully skilled.
Man all i saw was videos underrating her. Glad im not alone thinking she is strong 😂
So do we have to pull?
th-cam.com/video/0t_2qhdronI/w-d-xo.html
Why does bubba have to be coming out soon? I want yuri but I’d be sick if I don’t leave with bubba on his banner.
Thanks for the guide she looks marvelous! Will definitely pull for her. I’m a newer player (60days) and missing Baron and Laurel which is causing me to be stuck on Gear Raid 19’s…hopefully I can get both (haha) while pulling for Yuri!
for apoc 2, how much dmg is she doing when A3? can you compare to any hero, hex, silas ...
If enough people want a GB2 guide, then for sure I can
nice vid but skipping her. interested in lthe upcoming lubu hero hehe
I totally got the impression she was meh from other guides. Glad that is not the case!
Sure, she can do very well in GR-3, the question is though whether she is actually necessary. As in take the same gear and artifact you use on her and put it on a different hero, Silas or otherwise. Will you still be able to clear the stage or not? At this point she's only really relevant for GR-3 if she acts as a lynchpin, which I just don't see. I do agree that GR-3 is 1 of her best contents, alongside possibly AA Arena, as it mitigates her massive weaknesses more than any other content. Take Styx as an example, yes she gets 50 hits in 10 seconds with her ultimate, however that's a hard number(as in you can't exceed it). Setram does more(especially with his unique artifact), Helga does way more, Calypso at A5 does around the same, etc. That is to say she certainly works but she's not at all top tier and certainly can't dethrone queen Helga.
These massive weaknesses I mentioned are RNG in her stuns(A1), as you said the variance is huge because stuns can't overlap so if your stun distribution isn't mostly uniform some of your stuns simply won't count. Her damage is on the low end as it's always a choice between her basic attacks and talents *or* her ultimate, never both, which is a huge issue. And it's not like her ult is that amazing(damage wise) and the fact that at least theoretically it's strictly worst than her basic attacks + talents at 0.7 second attack interval and pretty even at 0.8 than even if you don't actually reach those numbers it still shows how low impact her ult is. Which leads to another, minor issue, which is her gearing. Do you gear her for max attack speed to fully utilize her talent or do you ignore attack speed(or put it on low priority) to focus on her ult, as it doesn't care what her attack speed is, it will always deal 50 hits in 10 seconds.
It's basically a Lucius situation when using her ult actually comes with a major downside, except that unlike Lucius she doesn't have a talent that kicks in when you don't use her ult to compensate for it. In her case it's all downside no upside either way. Now, her defense shredding is always there and is indeed very powerful. However you can bring defense shredding on other heroes so you really need to evaluate her based on her whole package, which is mostly her damage output being primarily a DPS hero. This damage is quite simply lacking because her kit is fighting with itself. And no, I'm not asking her to be the next Sun Wukong. I'm simply asking for her kit to work well as a package rather than split the ult from the rest of the kit, and for that matter for her ult to actually do good damage, as right now it's only good for its range and number of hits.
a comment like this seems powered by the assumption everyone has silas and hatssut. i really just don't even get it. when you need single target or jump attacks you use her ult. when you need splash and aoe you let her ride basics. there's no issue.
And you say you can bring Def Red from other heroes? In many comps that is just not true. Her, Amahle, Morene, and Maul are the only platformers that can land def break on a single target.
If you aren't running a NM comp with Toro or Ares, she is the definitive choice. And her Red is bigger. So in a piercer comp, she makes herself, iovar, and silas all way strong for example. Pair that comp with Watcher, now SWK and Kigiri are popping off.
@@fastidious_gg It's not assuming anything. It's simply about power ranking. You mentioned she's an S, possibly S+ hero, which I heavily question and thus brought up these other heroes that are actually S/S+ to see if she actually compares with them as that's what it takes to be an S/S+ hero. I find your comment regarding her ult quite asinine to be honest. Sure, you can refrain from using it when you need the splash, but is her kit without her ult actually powerful enough to warrant fielding her in the first place? Similarly with her ult, thus without her talent and passive against single targets, does she actually perform well?
Regarding her def shredding, again yes it's nice but you're not looking at it the right way. If you run her in a nightmare comp you will want to run Torodor anyway as the lord, unless for some reason you prefer the new lord(and get him of course) which right now sees rather dubious. Therefore instead of having a 25% shred she only has a 5% shred(or a bit more if you count on Torodor's uptime not being as perfect as hers), as you will have Torodor on that team regardless because he's the lord(so not just because of the def shredding).
Similarly if you run her in a piercer comp, who are the other piercers you will bring? For GB2 I'd think those will be: Iovar, Silas, Hex and Talula(for the cleanse mostly, as she's also a piercer she fits perfectly). Out of all these heroes only Iovar actually benefits from her def shredding, well Silas technically does too outside his ult so heh. Hex deals magic damage and Talula is a healer so she doesn't care. Are there situations where she will be more useful? Perhaps. Are those situations going to be at least on par with the current meta teams(piercers or otherwise)? Probably not. I mean sure you can run Watchers and Piercers in GB2, but the main reason you want Watchers in GB2 is for Ingrid, Alistar and Constance, and they don't care about def shredding at all. So you're already missing out on a lot of power.
Now if you're saving Ingrid and Alistar for an Arbiter comp on your other team than who else do you bring? I guess you can do SWK, Kigiri and Lyra than add utility heroes like Carnelian, Dolores, etc. That can be a solid comp if you pair your other team with Arbiters and Nightmares using Arrogance, Lust, Twyla, Torodor and whoever(or a non Nightmare utility hero) then sure, that absolutely works and is solid enough. However again is it really necessary? As in wouldn't you rather use SWK and Kigiri with Nightmares instead of Watchers for the lord bonus alone? It seems more of a crutch situation, of not having the necessary heroes so you make do with what you have, which is a good reason don't get me wrong, but shouldn't weigh too heavily when it comes to power rankings. If anything it suggests she's much more of a progression hero than the OP marksman you and so many others claim she is.
Of course she is my newest most wanted - I really like Japanese Mythology, so it does not even matter how great/bad she is. ❤
[I am a simple mythologist - I see something related to Mythology (hoping that it is not being screwed) and go for it.]
To be clear, the Kitsune (actually meaning 'fox', but in this case more like 'fox spirit') is not unique to the Japanese Mythology.
Here a little list, for everyone interested.
狐 (Kitsune) - Japan | Fox spirit known for its intelligence, magical abilities, and association with the deity Inari.
九尾狐 (Jiǔwěihú) - China | Nine-tailed fox, a legendary creature often portrayed as wise and powerful.
구미호 (Gumiho) - Korea | Nine-tailed fox, often depicted as a shape-shifting spirit that can take on human form.
狐狸精 (Húlijīng) - China | "Fox spirit," often a seductive being, sometimes benevolent or malevolent.
จิ้งจอกเก้าหาง (Jingjok Kao Hang) - Thailand | Nine-tailed fox, similar to the Chinese and Korean versions but found in Thai folklore.
कुसुम्बुरक (Kusumburaka) - India | Rare fox spirit in Indian folklore, often seen as mischievous or spiritual.
홋카이도 여우 (Hokkaido Yeou) - Korea | Hokkaido fox, often considered in connection to supernatural lore in northern Asia.
Тал (Tal) - Mongolia | A fox spirit figure associated with shamanistic practices.
These spirits often share traits such as intelligence, magical abilities, and the power to shape-shift, reflecting the cultural interplay and variations of the fox spirit legend across Asia.
Is the us store working? I can’t buy season pass
it is not right now
@ thanks 🙏🏽
Hey fasti love the videos could u do a apoc 2 run please
your the second person to ask
if a few more people do, I will
Can Elysia kill gear raid 2 boss before last wave?
i want that Queen on my Team. Hope i get her so much 😢
If they do tamper with her ult before release, I hope they allow her talent to proc during her ultimate. When there’s only one target, it was tested that she actually does more damage during her basic than while during her ult.
Bond?
There is my stunner for the second Semrah team!
She is very unreliable stunner, lol, what are you talking about??
@iliqndanov9859 I counted 7 stuns in this video. Name 4 other heroes that can do that
@@novalikeastar Helga, Livian, Nazeem, Azhor are all better. That video is a clickbait and totally out of context. Just her being lucky once. She is a bad stunner. Majority of the time she will just do 2-3 stuns. There are other more reliable CC that are honest about that and do not try to overhype bad heroes.
@iliqndanov9859 overhyped?! She did well in Semrah and aced it in G3.
I'm not pulling for her anyway but if I get her in future banners I won't be disappointed to much. She's OK hero and I'm sure devs will fix her chances to stun from 10 to 20 percent.
@@novalikeastar ok is not good enough. At least for me. Sorry. Already pushing 200k+ in apoc2 and she is literally gonna do nothing for me. She is cool looking, nice animations and stuff, not gonna like. But when you have limited resources and there is character like Beelzebub on the horizon, she is a skip.
Nice review Fastidious. I've heard a lot of people say she's a skip. Really glad to hear maybe that's not just an automatic decision.
Nice
Take my summons moonton!
I think if her stuns were more reliable it could be too op, unless, as you said, every 10 hits she inflicts a stun. But yeah if they're not gonna change anything about that in her, this 10% chance for the amount of hits she does is fair enough in my opinion
It’s too inconsistent to be relevant at all. That’s the problem.
I'm glad you did low bp
Ayo. Who's the female star piercer fighter shown at 4:11
Numera? huh... interesting...
I think this banner is for people who don’t have hex and Silas I see no difference when you put Silas instead of Yuri in gr3 21
Wukong doesnt always get 12 even at A5. So like her + wukong + torredor should consistently get 10-12
Wukong usually pair with torodor. And him and torodor should do the job
her a5 wukong and toro for sure will get 12 every time with solid builds
Alaura had one sliver of potential on the right side of gr3, moonton release a terrible exclusive for her which gets people hyped up for nothing, then yuri comes out and does it better lol
It'd be better if they just upgraded current heros, especially arbiter. Alas, it's all about the 💰 🤑 💸 💲
It would be better if the talent was activated during the ultimate.
that would be really op...
Is she limited?
Nope
She is decent but not worth pulling for one week before Beelzebub banner
At 4:12, who's the 3rd warrior ???
Numera, she was supposed to arrive in game but apple store issues began and she disappeared from release plans
We will get her eventually like talula
Numera has already been powercrept since her delay. So I hope when they rerelease her she is buffed
Another hero that i will never get...yay
please help me finish raids and nm4 40kblood.
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Just cleared gr21 dang she came too late
Nice barbie...give me!!!
She looks too awesome to skip
So many conflicting reviews from multiple CC’s. I guess you can’t believe everyone. I’m going with my gut.
I don’t watch other CCs’ guides so I just hear from you guys in the comments. I truly don’t understand what is not to be happy about here. She isn’t like god tier dps broken (which she shouldn’t be) but she is versatile and a top tier marksman
@ I believe you. That’s my gut.
Anyone know who is gonna be 200 puzzle shard summon? Next week?
It’s 75
@ my bad I thought that there was gonna be a hero summon as well as the artifact on the same summon style like helga was. Artifact is 60
Ive had a combined Torodor and SWK net me 5 stuns...Her stuns check for me lol
You are doing something wrong then. At A3 Wukong alone hits at least 8 every single time.
Torodor is a bad stunner, not gonna lie, but she is even more unreliable, lol.
When did he say a3 wukong?
Just wanna say I use a0 Torodor and a0 SWK and I average 7-9 stuns on guild boss 2 and i have hit 160k using them only for stuns. Torodor is pretty reliable if you skill him and build him with lots of speed.
More dps units with supplemental stun capability just gets us closer and closer reliably dropping a dedicated stunner. Next week my first run attempt toward 80k will likely be dropping Helga for Yuri and rolling with A0 Toro, A4 Hex, A0 Yuri, and A0 SWK and seeing how the stuns roll in!
@@fastidious_gg The better question is when you are gonna stop post clickbaits? One lucky run is way too small sample to make such conclusions. You know she is a bad stunner and most of the time will do only 2-3 stuns.
Dam!!
AGHHHHHHH go for her or save for bubba I DONT KNOW
Hotly awaited Should You Pull this week. Fasti's testing has given me second thoughts. I was planning to skip for Bubba (do not have Constance) so I have a second inspiration hero.
Kinda bad tbh we can't get proper showcases in gvg/arena for any new heroes. There are some ocasionally...but pretty meh. For some players that's the only content left, so you're stuck with having to pull because you never know if she turns out to be great. I guess that's part of Moonton's "magic" ($$$), forcing your hand between possibly missing-out or playing it safe and pulling. We have some really end-game CCs (i.e Destined,Slate,etc for GvG and Rolando+so many others for arena), but they can't put a collab togheter to test new heroes in this content. Maybe it's too time consuming, maybe end-game doesn't get many views, who knows...but their experince should really make it way easier than it sounds and who knows...people might actually watch, learn and appreciate. Or maybe I'm delusional to ask for stuff like this.
we can't. we have no one to fight there any none of our heroes are realistic BP and stuff. If I had a second test server account of we could fight ourselves I could do it lol
@@fastidious_gg yeah, I get it, saw testserver isn't that ideal, hoped maybe with some collabs you can fight eachother and gather more data. if that's not the case, then...I don't know, ask the devs for a way to improve it, that's the whole purpose of a test server. thanks for reply!
She's good, cool and for accounts without Silas, hatssut very useful. Still skip for me. Waiting for bubba and valentine's day banners
It's probably next week
Yeah, I'm probably going to do the same. Although if the bond skill she gives to kigiri was better I'd consider pulling for her, but if that was the case kigiri could be too broken 😅
Why is she half dressed?
Maybe they will release a skin where she is wearing a poncho!
@fastidious_gg
Whoever is doing the girl skins, needs to get laid 😂😂.
Kitsune is keet soo nay.
@@felixmendaros5425 I have had ACTUAL JAPANESE PEOPLE tell me it is kit soo neh - so that is what I will say
You had a little too much fun saying "sextuple".
Your library card has been revoked for liberalism.
LOL
Easy pass
Seriously Yuri is trash, not only her damage is really low ( even with a Dolores ), her stun is inconstant, and her kit bring nothing that is really game changing 😅
pretty ice cold take.
@fastidious_gg baba being next week who would waste their summon on an early mid game unit 😉
@ 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Her ultimate damage has been reduced from 75% to 55%.😢
I saw this in the game display.
Reduced the damage of the ultimate skill by 1000%.😢
Come on man. That is without skill ups…. 55% base and 75% with skills. Nothing has been reduced.
OMG，I made a mistake.I'm looking at the basic heroes.