Old Detroit screams to life after 24 years!!! 65 year old crawler lives again!!!
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- SUBSCRIDE FOR MORE CONTENT LIKE THIS!!!! Join me while I attempt to get this old girl running again. This Allis Chalmers HD14 crawler tractor has a Detroit 6v71 2 stroke diesel in it. Has not been run in 24 years. I pulled it to my property and now am finally getting it running again. First start in many years. Also a cold start. This tractor use to run a sawmill as its last job before "retirement". Owner had started it and the unit "ran away". I figure the governor was stuck in full fuel because he was able to shut it off with the fuel shut off lever. Further inspection found that I was correct about that. Cleaned and reassembled. Seems to run better but there is a fuel delivery issue I believe that's causing it to slow die and come back as its driven. Also steering clutch and brake issues I will cover in a future video.
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I used to operate an HD 14 when I first left school in 66 aged 16, had a Baker blade and Carco winch on it, still operating dozers today at 72. Awesome to see them oldies still on the go after all those years of sitting.
Allis Chalmers never dies
What engine did the 14 have in it?
@@ConvairDart106 G M 6/71 as did the 15 @ 19.
@@rossgray3070 We had an. HD9 on the farm that could pull a ten bottom plow all day long in 4th gear on the wheat hills of the Palouse country. It could out pull all of the D6 Cats that the neighbors had. When I quit farming, and started fishing, most of the vessels I worked on in the Bering sea had at least one detroit on-board. When I bought my own vessel, it had five! Two 871's for main power, a 471 (1938 model upgraded to the 4 valve head) for basic house power, a 671 When running the cranes or refrigeration, and when using all the equipment on the boat, an 8V92 which had plenty of power to spare! I can rebuild a 71 series in my sleep! The first crawler I ran, was the TD14, followed by the HD9, then the D69U, D4, and lastly, the TD20 for Washington state DNR. You can probably guess my age from the equipment I ran!
@@ConvairDart106 GM 6/71, same as the 15 & 19.
Missing on a couple at the start, but Detroits are famous for always running, even when completely clapped out. One of the best designs for an i/c engine ever. Particularly since it was designed 90 years ago and the design has basically remained unchanged
The GM Diesels (later Detroit, after the anti-trust suit) were designed starting in 1936 alongside it's big brother, the 567.
I love this old stuff! Not to sound like a safety Sam but PLEASE BE CAREFUL about standing in front of those tracks! If it takes a gear or has any malfunction you won't get a do over and DO NOT want that for anyone! 💯🙋♂️🇺🇸
He will only do it once
Especially with how little pressure it takes after so long to slide in to gear those shifters become so loose all it takes is a sudden jerk to get it going and I know because my grandpa had one and thank god we had it chained to our bigger tractor because it grabbed First and took off
Nothing wrong with "safety Sam", i know a few guys who aren't around any more. Maybe a little Sam might have saved them?
True that 🤕
My old girlfriends father stood between the wheels of a wheeled tractor to start it.
He was lucky he was on a freshly plowed field. The rear wheel ran right up the length of his body, crushing him into the soil.
He's alive, but don't walk real straight anymore.
Sounds great, she was waiting to be found, good stuff!
I moved to this town and there was a dozer sitting on a lot that had been there since 1955. The radiator was off and there was no blade. One day I drove by the lot and it was gone. One of my friends Told me some guys came by hookup a battery and started it up and drove it onto a lowboy. This was 1971.
There is something so satisfying about seeing an old engine come back to life
Nothing sunds better then a 2 valve 6-71!!!
When checking oil on long dead equipment realize that the oil can be floating on a pool of water. Drain a bit from the sump to check for that condition before starting and pushing an emulsion of water thru the machine.
Worked up Maize ground approx 200 acres here in New Zealand with an Allis Chalmers HD7. She pulled 6 a side giant discs and a set of tandem discs hooked on behind then a 20 foot wide set of chain harrows behind that. That machine pulled like i couldnt believe. Foot starter and boss told me it was a 2 stroke diesel about 46 hp or something like that. That was in 1971
Oh yeah she will run them old Detroit diesels are great engines. I love the sound especially when the engine idles. I worked on armored personnel carriers when I was with the Army in Germany back in the sixties. Those Detroit engines in the personnel carriers were the 6V71T turbocharged models. Congrats on getting her running again and thanks for the video.
I worked on the landing craft (army) it had 3 main engines 6-71. We had them screaming at 1700 RPM for hours, running up and down the east coast, we even took them to Panama. That was 1984 and these were the same engines that were in Vietnam.
If it was a M113 it would have been a Detroit 6V53. Same basic design, just newer and more compact.
@@gomerromer7708twin turbo.
These things do not really die- goodness. Always a joy to see them awake-😅
Not a 6V71, but a 6-71. I'm surprised it didn't "run away". That is a pretty good find.
It didn't run away because he had a death grip on the rack with a pair of vice grips. Otherwise it might have!
All it takes is one stuck injector at full throttle and you are off to the races.
@@mikemullay5622 I saw one in 1968 I was 17 but raised around cars&trucks...BUT it still scared me to death I expected rods&pistons to be a flyin😊
671 Detroit Super Charged=6 cylinders, each cylinder has 71 cubic inches for a total of 426 cubic inches, the super charger is on the side of the block.
Not much compreshion
My husband and I got an old C1010 crawler dozer going a couple years ago. The dang thing needed re sleeved because it had low compression and we couldn’t find new sleeves. The injection pump was fun, and we were able to find all new parts for it.
Keep on going with this ol girl!! Shes worth the work! What a magnificent machine
I worked on 6-71s on boats when I was in the Army. I feel in love with them.
Thanks for the music.
Allis Chalmers had some great early equipment and the crawlers were hard workers as history has shown... that was a nice find.
all the old tractors/mowers are 100x times better then todays BS.. i got a 1968 cub cadet 104 mows my grass till this day... new crap is china plastic
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@@MidwestFarmToys This has been a truly beautiful equipment repair video! Thanks for sharing!
Allis bought Monarch crawlers and put their name on them. They used Detroit until they bought Buda.
*Happiness Is; Bathing in the Light.*
"Let the Sunshine In."
I own two HD12's with the 4-71, one of them is for parts. I lost a large final drive bearing that I need to replace. It has a huge blade with hydraulics that goes over the top of the tractor that will need to be removed along with the truck, before I can even get to the bearing. It has 2 1/2" cleats on the tracks and can spin both of tracks if you get to much dirt in front of it. I've already had to replace the brake band liners.
My neighbors have an abandoned HD20 that the previous owner left down in my field on the other side of the fence. I sure would like to pull it home, I just don't have anything big enough to move it, that's why its still sitting there.
Never heard of a HD12.Been around HD9 and HD11 both of which had 4-71's in them.
Congratulations on your success. The old timers made some wonderful things-- not a computer chip on it, I daresay.
We start our GM blower diesel with a spray of ether into the Rootes blower port (there is a plug in the side for it). They start straight up. Cheers Rob
This is awesome.. Love seeing old equipment coming back to life!!
The tractor needs a good restoration now including a paint job.
If you don't wanna spend money on a cable crimper Get a large Nut, weld a piece of bar to one flat for a handle then drill a hole through the flat roughly 90 degrees to it & tap it to accept a smaller bolt like M10. grind the end of a high tensile M10 into a rounded point and you have a DIY portable cable crimper. Slide the ferrule onto the cable, slide the nut over the ferrule and crank down on the M10 bolt. Move round 120 degrees do the same, then again and your ferrule is pretty well secured. (you can do as many dimples with the tool as you feel you need). Great to see these old machines breath again!
nice, good idea. Or can use a vice and a more basic setup, but the tool is nicer
Love it! Old bits of kit bought back to life!. Runs reasonably well all things considered. Nice one!. Nuff said!. 🙂
i like old equipment back to life . Thank You
Run It Like you HATE IT...And the Detroit will love you
Good to see it running again, a word of advice though, never run those engines without the air cleaner on the super charger and the valve cover off, if it sucks oil into the super charger it will take off and you could end up with a run away engine situation. Lots of corrosion to clean up and lubricate.
Love to see the old machines running, thanks for sharing. 🤙👏👍🤠🇦🇺🇺🇲
Good point i was looking at that open air intake and was cringing.
Great video and I love seeing the Detroit 2 stroke coming back to life. Looks like a 6-71
6-110 not a 6-71
@@mikefrey6668 no, that's a 6-71
@@harrimanfox8961 agree. There is a number of differences that identify this as a 6-71, no doubt about it and very obvious. The 6-110 looks nothing like a 6-71 to someone who knows Detroits. Most noticeable difference is the 6-110 doe not have the rounded “humps” that stick out on the sides of the front of the engine to cover the balancer weights on the cam/balancer shaft.
Awesome reviving of such a priceless and timeless classic. Props 👍 ✌️
Great video 👍 I had to scrap a mint Ali's HD7 with a 471 a few years ago when I was broke af and I regret it everyday. Hang on to that thing
HD 7 has a 371 detroit.
@@briankennedy5578 I thought all Hd7's were 3-71's too, but this one had a 4-71 in it and it had to be factory made. It was an ag machine w no blade. Guy I got it from said he got it from the Nebraska panhandle. I have some good pics of it I'll try to post em here somehow
@@Miniaturehorseexpress someone must have swapped it. Any 71 series will bolt right in. They're all basically the same engine add or subtract cylinders. I was needing an engine for my HD10W and almost swapped a 671 for the 471. 2 additional cylinders looked like a bit more room than i could get by remounting the radiator. And i found a 471 for a good price. Not as good as i thought. Turns out it had some problems. But with it and the old one ill make a runner.... I hope. A bit confusing right now. So many options due to versatility of 71 series. If i can use flywheel housing on new engine it'll be a piece of cake. If not ill have to put blower on opposite side. Then deal with the rotation and all the other assembly options. The new one is 3/4" deeper than the old one. So if the flywheels are the same itll need a spacer on the flywheel. ????? Have to get old out and look.
Finally, someone who does their battery terminals right. So tired of watching vice gripped battery hack jobs.
She WANTED to run!
Nice to see old stuff brought back to life..👍👍
Sure is :)
Great job, you'll love the old Detroit.:)
Crazy old equipment is sometimes the best!!
I love those old AC Dozers. Pre-1954 I believe was the GM Powered ones and they are RARE let me tell ya. I always wanted one even more so a Series 200 IH TD9. Start on Gas Run on Diesel. Thx for sharing! Hope to see more.
I have the t9 gas international mid forties it’s my workhorse
I have a TD9 gas to diesel l want to sell
Its an old Detroit Diesel, of course it came to life and runs great. Detroit was the best diesel of their time, We bought a new Detroit Diesel in 95 at a military surplus auction and put it in a crawler think it was a Cat though.
Crawler is pre 55 , Allis bought Buda that year to have diesel plant. General had the euclid line of heavy equip, so that may have been an issue in providing engines to Allis. I was a sawyer for 40+years, have sawn millions of feet of lumber with 671, best engine for circle rig ever.
Sure is all the old mills around here had them!
I've got a HD-20 still runs I haven't started in about 10 years but it's under a shed and I know it would still start, mine has a Detroit 6-110 in it, I've got 2 blades for it a dirt blade and a kg cutting blade for clearing, it's cleared ALOT of land in its time!!
That is a machine.
The first crawler I drove by myself was one of these. Then I got put on the D-4 for the rest of the summer.
Very satisfying. I love old iron!
Cool old dozer. Worth fixing up.
Old detroits never die...even after decades of sleep. haha
Our Allis dozer was used to run a water pump of all things no blade so the tracks and tin are mint we brought it home painted it and it was restored.
Hopeyou continue to better n preserve this machine Thank ufor saving it.
tip on soldering lugs pool lug with solder then dip wire and continue to heat to draw solder into wire.
Thats how my dad did it...
The bar is called the throttle control rod, the racks are inside the injectors. I have the same engine in a diamond t
And they stick
@@jeffgarrett2114 yep, rack and pinions sieze in injector body,
GREAT VIDEO I ENJOYED WATCHING EVERY MINUTE OF IT
This was awsome! Love it! I'm totally subbed! Much respect from South Africa!
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@@spotty4710 Sho sho umfana!
I see you guys have experience with Detroit’s You had the emergency shut off at the ready. Nice.
Tutto ok buono
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Excellent video it's nice to see that you got the Detroit diesel engine running again
Good job, starting up a detroit is a scary thing 🤣
I’ve ground crimp style notches in old, non-functioning bolt cutters and used them for years to crimp large terminals.
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Great video, wish I had mechanical knowledge like you guys.
Wow good stuff guys great job great explanation it seemed like the throttle was still rubbing back up at the end of the video
Best motor ever made
Ahhh the grease, nothing has that smell like old equipment.
Don t You know!!! A Good Hot day 👍 And that Grease Smell FLASH BACK TO MY YOUTH !!
Increible El motor no parece estar tan mal Una limpieza y calibracion de inyectores y queda nuevo Felicitaciones
We had Detroit V8s and Cummins Straight sixes on Terrex TX 24 scrapers. The Detroit’s were smaller more powerful and more reliable. They were mechanically supercharged but a turbo(s) would have boosted fuel efficiency.
If you just like working on those old clunkers, and have deep pockets, then go for it. I'll spend the extra cash for something that's reliable. But it interesting to se what some folks are willing to do to resurrect those old beaters.
I, as one, have run those type of crawlers a lot in my life. The most important thing is SIT DOWN WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING IT. They have been known to buck you OFF, if you are OFF and it's still in gear and running....you MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET BACK ON WITHOUT KILLING YOURSELF, THAT MACHINE IS NOT FUNNY!!!!
That Old Detroit sounds sweet
Big Boy toys! love it thanks!
The smell the noise so satisfying
Brilliant video ! 👍
I had just as much fun watching...ya'll Canadians?
(The flag nearby seems so!)👍
That’s awesome!!!
Must be in an old Euclid crawler. We had some in the CB's. Loud, not real strong but good enough for government work.
If interested in possibly selling that old thing, you might ought to holler at Scott Crosby, the Bus Grease Monkey. He's a Detroit nut and was talking about wanting a Detroit crawler for his property. Idk about his current budget because he is building his shop right now. Food for thought for later maybe...
Put soldering paste on the wire and fill the cup full of soldering paste. Heat the cup up and push the wire in it. Heat the cup up and then fill the cup up with solder until it flows. I would put the cup flange in a pair of Vice grips, facing upwards and then fill the cup up with solder until it flows over.
That thing is awesome!
Sounds amazing.
Love to see old iron come back to life. Working on one myself. Sounds like your governor still isnt working properly.
Allis-Chalmers I be- lieve had used the 6- 71 and also the 6-110 Detroit. When G.M. purchased the Euclid Company from the Armington family in 1953, A-C saw this as a threat. This brought about the purchase of the Buda Company, later to become A-C diesel.
Sad that nobody maintained that engine, had a 19 from 1948 I think but got rid of it because parts are so scarce. Good ag machine though, be nice to find a Baker setup and do some pushin.
beautiful job congratulation
What a pretty farm
Being just at the end of a wire resistance is rather minimal but if there were multiple small connections like that then you would start seeing issues. With those copper terminals you can actually cold stretch them to connect larger gauge wires.
Nice👌
A little TLC and it runs like new.
Full send right away MINNNT👌🏼
The amount of chunks flyiing out of the stack was rather amusing.
At either end of the head is an access port to the fuel rail. You can rig up an oil can to pump fuel directly into the rail/injector circuit.
Looks like "Stalinec" which was used to tow Soviet cannons in WWII. Very few of them are in good condition now. And all of them was salvaged from swamps, rivers etc.
Considering that rust on top of the injector rockers and other signs of hardwork,she runs nice and clean under a light load . It must have have had an easy life running the saw mill.
:42 I'm surprised to se that 12v sticker..hey..try Supertech Full Synthetic Oil from Walmart..get the thickest you can..the additives package will de-sludge that engine fast and its cheap..also be sure to have 3 or 4 oil filters handy you will need to change them often..good job with the old girl 👍
Being that old I’m surprised that it wasn’t 24 volt.
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It's the starter that needs to be 12 volt for a 12 volt battery.
I looked like no electrics other than the starter on a remote starter switch were otherwise connected. (no v-belt to the generator on the engine)
So all they needed to get the motor going was a battery and starter that would work together... 12v or 24v...
That is so over the top cool....
Good job
Place I worked had three of these engines set up as training aid.Guy was running the rack on one something let loose in the governor.We could not get it shut down the engine self destructed.This engine was off a 750 CFM air compressor which governed at 1800 rpm.Some one that was watching said engine let go at about 3000rpm.
Success! Onward!
RIP the many millions of dinosaurs who gave their lives to make this possible :-)
those TD 14 are easy to work on. thank your lucky stars by the looks of it, some one R&R the pads and may be the pins and bushings, They would be dry pins and bushings, and they aren't rusted solid. so far so good. Keep a close eye on any of the pins walking out, which can cause some serious damage. frictions are no big deal to R&R. flush, wash out that grim / rust. Last time I seen those old cats in use was in Korea, 1967... no idea why, when Hydr was in full use than.. US Army..
I love stuff like this .
42MT starter fits a lot of engines as you found here!
MT39
yea pretty easy to clock
most detroit diesel mechanics know that on first start of a detroit that has been sitting a long to have something solid close by to cover that blower intake and shut the intake air off in case of that oil leak i mentioned and i noticed you had nothing there to shut that air off with
This is actually a 6L71. The 6v is the V6 the 6L is the inline.
Inline is just a 6-71. 6L-71 is the low profile version used in busses.
Actually it's a 6-110
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In the time that that machine was built were times that the machines were built to last forever not like in todays time
you have that right... not a mechanic of diesels but do repair old sewing machines.. have a couple from 1870s and still work great 140 years later..cant beat that.
i love it when u see an old diesel run again ! u cant kill a diesel unless u fill it with gasoline ! hahah
Note the rad full of saw dust ,, Best Regards J
Only turns left...well that thing is ready for NASCAR then!
These old 671's seem to thrive on neglect. Just don't overheat or let oil get too low.