bro that was the sadest part of the series thus far, all he wanted to do was know what it meant be human and ultimately thats what destroyed him. tears were most definitely shed
I think she didn't at first but eventually kind of fell for him and was torn because she wanted him but also wanted her cop buddy back but let him go knowing he had to do other shit anyways so she didn't fight for him,iI think if he showed love for her it would have broke her and she would have been with him
I know I’m late but the chemistry between the actors was really good as if there wasn’t suppose to be anything sexual or any emotion but they worked so well with each other but it’s made the characters motives confusing as to what Ortega wants, like she’s sleeping with an envoy in her partners sleeve, try explaining that when he spins back up
Definitely recommend that you watch this series twice, especially if you were not fully engaged in watching it the first time. Hope they come back with a Season 2 it deserves it for sure.
The books did it better and the feminist director changed the story because she couldn't handle some of the adult material in the story. She also made up a brand new character to save the day in the last episode
This was the best recap I've seen. I forgot all this stuff and the show was way too complicated to recap in a 4 minutes vid like others tried to do. It takes 5 minutes just to recap what the jargon means in the show.
One correction regarding Lizzie: Reileen didn't get rid of Lizzie using Neo-C codings, but instead sent her to one other facility of her business -- the Wei Clinic, an interrogation facility that's supposedly cutting edge in the field. In the episode where Takeshi was tortured by Dimi the twin the creature used on him was the same one that Takeshi saw in the last episode in VR, a new creature created to inflict pain on its host for torturing. This is how Lizzie's cortical stack broke and why she was able to be spun back up but needed psychological counseling.
Walter Xu Hey friend. Not really a correction as I did say "OR". You're right though I did say "she helped recode her OR make her go mad, or something like that." I also said (around 16 mins in) that she was sent to the torture place. So yes she wasn't recoded but I still said she went to the torture place and regardless the point if it all was Miriam owed her a favour for "disposing" of Lizzy regardless of the means. So yes one way or the other I pointed out that it was A or B but whatever the case she ended up in the torture room (I mentioned this at least twice) and so her coding is irrelevant. But thanks for clarifying.
Oh yeah and the guys when they were torturing Takeshi mentioned that the last time they used that program the subject's mind broke or she went crazy or whatever
@@jakezimmer7256 well they used that little creature to break individuals for military info and planning,government secrets. But using that on a perfectly normal woman who is Lizzie but that would be too extreme using a creature on a poor 16/18/19 year old who you're r***** I guess they used onto someone who wasn't able to break probably a Envoy or some tough cookie.
The only thing I would ask for altered carbon season 2 is to show more of the landscapes, because we didn’t really get to see much of the beautiful sci fi city’s. Other than that, this is hands down one of the best shows I’ve ever seen!!! I really hope they make a season 2!!! 10/10 SOOOOO GOOOOD!!!!!
Interjecting; we don't see it cos the people living in it don't see it. The only times we get a glimpse is when Kovacs is surveying the territory. They respect the land etc as much as they respect their bodies and life itself. As in not at all. It's a feature not a bug.
Kyle Vreeland I dunno. Do you like books? Depends how open minded you are I guess. Most book nerds crack the shits with TV/Movie adaptations. I don't give a shit. I like seeing things visualized. Just treat it as it's own thing and you good baby!
Jake's Place Books?Books?Ah you mean shreaded tree carcasses with squiggly lines.Ive heard of them but only in my travels to massive tree carcasses graveyards called Lee-brearys.I suppose I shall set out again and travel to these Lee-brearys thus allowing me to decifer the squiggles.Thank You.
Miriam killed Lizzie not because of the possible scandal, but because Lizzie is the only woman that Laurens Bancroft got pregnant besides her. Killing Lizzie is actually an act that adds so much depth to Miriam as a character.
I really enjoyed this series. It was one of the most original sci-fi series to come out in years, and it's gritty cyberpunk style rocked. There story's plot was pretty complex. It will take a couple viewings to really understand everything. I imagine viewers not familiar with many of the sci-fi tropes in the show would be hopelessly lost. But it is a must see for any fan of the cyberpunk genre.
@@joshuareynolds23 continuum and dark matter are jokes! TV shows to kill time if you cant do anything else with it but Altered Carbos is a a must watch with smart story and very good put together cuberpunk universe, good actors! Probably you are a teenager who just needs something easier to digest and thats fine but you cant compare dark matter with a masterpiece!
@@AexoeroV Continuum was amazing. the ending as is was very weak I'd agree with you about altered carbon except I read the books and you have no idea the things you are missing because they choose to do it this way. Great show of course just kind of a let down to me as a long time fan.
@@joshuareynolds23 i see, didnt read the books, maybe a not so good adaptation but anyways better than the shows mentioned but each with his taste. If you are a sci-fi fan i recommend The Expanse but probably you seen it, great show!
No, you got it wrong about Envoys. The Envoys do not use the same armor as CTAC and the Envoys are the ones trained by Quell, not by the Protectorate. Also, it was 48 hours for Bancroft's last backup. Ortega is just a Lieutenant, not really high ranking. The Captain is just the ranking officer of the one station that is used in the show, where Ortega is stationed.
About the backing up thing. I'm pretty sure they've gone through that trauma because the implications of knowing what happened after you died as "you" wake up. It's essentially like nothing happened except you know a bit more now. These people have gone through this multiple times. They are no longer thinking One Life. They're playing the game.
I loved this show so much that I stopped watching it partly because I was afraid it wouldn't land the ending, but it totally did... Season 2 was not so much, but it was still fun
I'm so glad I took the time to watch this video, even though the length of it shunned me away. This show was incredible and I'll definitely watch it for a second time now that I fully understand what happened. Amazing.
How on earth did you not understand what happened just by watching it? This story line is far from complicated. SMH, we're all screwed, welcome the idocracy.
As much as I love the AI Poe... I can't help but wonder what the show would have been like if Takeshi's sidekick was the same as the book... Jimmy Hendix?! Wait that can't be right (re-reads book). Yep, it's right.
Neat, really enjoyed the weird adventure Altered Carbon brought to the table, and on your questions of backups being close to cloning, I think the show focuses on taking mortality on a more literal than spiritual level ie. 1 = 1 rather than 1 = 1 sub a or b or so forth, it's a pretty straight forward interpretation of the world as a mathematical concept perhaps true to a science fiction universe than a science fantasy, if function A = function B then function B = function A and thus cloning implies a fundamentally identical copy that is like cloning but since the clone is fundamentally you with a negligible missing memory then the clone is fundamentally you. I get that some people believe that each new memory makes you unique from your previous self but there is some negligible aspects here and there like if say I die from an irrelevant and convoluted experience from eating a cookie and get backed up, my clone is still me, an older version of me technically but also unaffected by the cookie relative to what truely makes me, me. It might be best to think of people as numbers or machines, I have a doctrine of philosophy and ethics that are like my unique ID or core coding that defines who I am as a person, in the event that these ethics change, yes, I could arguably be a new person but my old self will still be able to reach the same conclusion anyways and thus we are the same because we do not judge ourselves superficially. This is why later in the movie where Takeshi clones himself that he can communicate and be so much in sync with himself and perhaps why we can argue the rock paper scissors games he held with himself were not so much of a random event but one where both made a calculated reason upon who would make which move and to what solution he would most prefer on both a strategic and ethical degree. The most recent cases of cloning I have heard in our present day is cloning animals from live stock sheep to domestic pets like dogs, at which point, the cloning is only on a biological level of just the flesh rather than any mental state. It is a situation where the experiences of an individual start from such a blank state or revisionary edit of experiences that the clones are fundamentally different mentally and as beings with unique characters. Now, if we could clone say the neurons of a brain so that it were identical to another, since the electrical impulses would be identical and if those impulses were the sole definition of a person in the context of that system then clone A would equal original A. Hmm I think we have probably tried cloning bacteria or viruses at this point so if we were to assume say a virus were to not have a soul then virus A would equal clone virus A. It's perhaps a pessimistic view point but the universe the writer appears to have chosen for his writing.
I love this show so much, especially the first season. And I loved watching this recap (even though I’ve watched the show a million times) because it really reminds you just how much there is to absorb and get your head around! Personally I didn’t have trouble following it but it has so much depth and detail that it’s almost believable! Love it. I just wish season 2 had the same harsh edge that season 1 had ☹️ it was still good but didn’t feel the same.
I just finished rewatching Season 1 in anticipation of Season 2. So, this was an interesting and entertaining synopsis. (You kept censoring James Purefoy’s considerable man parts.) The casting was superb. Big shout out to Joel Kinnaman, Renée Elise Goldsberry, Chris Conner, and the aforementioned James Purefoy. I thought the premise had some significant plot holes; e.g., wouldn’t a civilization where real death was rare have a massive and unsustainable population explosion? And, who wouldn’t want a small and very exclusionary political/economic elite who consume massively disproportionate amounts of society’s goods/services live forever? Lastly, an Emmy should have gone to Matt Biedel. Speaking effortless Spanish when spun up as Ortega’s abuela for Dia de los Muertos then double-sleeved as Dimitri Cadman (Dimi the Twin) all in the same 20 minutes was an acting tour de force. Next up...season 2 with Anthony Mackie!
Thanks for the short and sweet summary :) Love the point you made near the end about how the series doesn't address how DHF backups are essentially a cloned consciousness. I'm actually writing an essay at university about exactly this! How can the Bancroft arrested at the end be held accountable if he is a clone of a Bancroft from before the crime?
I think the philosophical ramifications of "is it really you?" are hinted at in Episode 1. Ortega tells who Dimi The Twin and explains that "double sleeving" is a capital offence. You get caught double sleeving both copies get erased. But why? Why such a harsh punishment if you double sleeve yourself? Make it illegal sure, for obvious reasons, but why make it a capital crime if you only do it to yourself? I think it's because it raises the question you did. They can accept a linear continuity from one body to the next, but the idea of reloading a previous save complicates things, and double sleeving just destroys it entirely. If you can double sleeve then you are not being transferred but rather duplicated. Double sleeving opens up such a philosophical (and uncomfortable) can of worms they'd rather just make it a capital crime and not think too much about it than really confront what re-sleeving actually is.
Thanks for the recap! I only just found out about this series, so I wanted to know more about it if I decide to watch it. The whole cloned memory thing reminded me of that movie "The 6th Day".
Great video!!! About the philosophical question, " is your clone still you".... I've always thought about this one. If clones are possible, but are kept in the dark from us, you know the elite stuff and celebrity cloning...if that's all true then I think physicallly the clone really becomes you...but for it to act like you, it will have to be taught about how you were and how you usually thought, which according to me should be really hard, you can't really know how one thinks...well unless the government really commits about learning about who you are...then possibly....then your clone can possibly act, to be like you...but won't really be you, not really...it didn't really go through your experiences, but learned about them...best it can do is fool everyone, but not itself. Which is more or less kinda of the same thing with the stacks and the backup-ing. We live life being taught what to do, and how to be as children...by parents,the society and the environment around us...but we come of age, like really think for ourselves, say when we teenagers maybe, it's the same thing but at that point, we have a foundation of who we are, we each tell each other we already know how to act and respond to certain situation...so going forward what determines us is experiences and the foundation of the knowledge of who we already perceive ourselves to be...this all is based on what we've gone through, thus we are determined by the memories of who we are. So I don't know about souls,some could argue there's no souls and stuff but that don't really matter... it's irrelevant in this case because I don't think your soul determines who you are in anyway not in this life on earth at least. So I think the backup-ing of the stack,might not really be them when they return, but they are them, because of the memories they remember and the experiences they think they shared... They still become who they are because of the Memories, because they are faced with the burden of choosing their choices according to their Memories (which has past experiences and similar event-choices more or less) I might have been repeating the same point all over again, I tend to do that....hope you understand my point of view though.
Just watched season 1 and going to watch season 2. I love this show..its like a mix of Ghost in the Shell and Blade Runner...its so dark and brutal and the plot is well put together.
Loved the series. FYI, screenwriting issues. CTAC was a constant. See the scene where the downloaded CTAC group talks about the drugs the UN provides to ease resleeving. Envoys were actually what Quel turned her freedom fighters into. In the book, the Envoy training was the UN, I do believe. Quel was recognized as the leader of the rebels and her teachings of politics and rebellion were her historical selling point. No explicit relationship there. Also, no sister character. The books were great, the show was as adapted as needed for the commercial screen. Also noted, several seeds planted in the show from the sequel books to link to the future screen adaptations/seasons. Don't let any of this dissuade you from the books. If you enjoy the main character in the books, read the urban fantasy series The Dresden Files. Similarly great character development and internal dialogues that screenwriters have problems with. ( Note: please don't see the screen adaptation of the File. It's screenwriter's failed challenge could put you off...Unless you find it interesting to see the challenges screenwriters face in getting books through to the screen.) I was out of the loop of streaming shows and found out about the show's announcement, the fact that the first season had been released, and binged it, all within a 30day period. Stunned.
I watched the whole thing to see if you had it..you're on point...I understood the whole thing being I'm ocd lol......one thing you referred to envoys as either protectorate or qwellcrest falconer trained guys,the way I understood it is the envoys by definition were trained by qwellcrest and even more hardcore than the protectorate guys,being able to defend mind influence of simulated torture in an AI torturing you over and over again...(DIMI tortured kovacks bad and he didn't break,DIMI was actually pissed cause he couldn't break him)hence the rich meth guy calling out to everyone that he owned kovacks saying he has"the last envoy" at his little shin dig party....all in all excellent breakdown of the story
@@ZLwh1ne It is and it's? well not sure yet. And the first season was just so awesome... But this dick can't even tell the dif between Envoys and C-tac. So there's that. How the fuck am I supposed to take them seriously when "Everything explained" is just so full of shit. Not subscribing. not worth it.
@@TheMaverick454 If you listen to the dialogue at one point either Quell or the Elder say "the Elders put all of it's energy into one consciousness." Meaning that was the last and only elder. So in saying that, the door left open refers specifically to the one and only Elder getting out of the firewall.
Absolutely amazing transhumanistic sci fi story, just finished season 1.... Though, as this video dude says, I was really annoyed by the materialistic view of the writer. None of the characters ever ask obvious questions like "If a version of me is 'backed up' in a computer somewhere, and that is used to 'reincarnate' me after I die, won't that just be someone else? A clone?"
As always, I'm late to the party. Just watched season1 and this was a good break down. Getting ready to start season 2 but wanted to solidify my understanding on a few core concepts. I definitely like the show but more when it's about the detective work tbh the love story stuff is only tolerable for the lore building.
One thing you left out that is kinda cool is that in the VR torture scene, they mention that new thing that drives the victim totally insane, and that it is heavily implied that the daughter of that ex-CTAC dude was driven insane with it
"So if your stack gets fucking blown out of your face!" I'm in love. Also, Miriam didn't kill Lizzie to avoid a scandal. She worshipped Lawrence. She gave him everything she had and he stripped her (and her children) of any life they had the chance to live. He outsourced the happiness she had given him with her own body and soul. The only dignity he allowed her was ensuring that she was the only woman allowed to produce his heirs. And she gave him 22 of them. Apparently all disappointments. When he loved Lizzie enough to allow her to have his child... he took away the only thing she had left. It was all she lived for.
If no 2nd season was planned, pretty sure Jaeger , Covac's CTAC commander would pop up for a final showdown. BTW All those who have problem with the cloning, Star Trek beaming up has similar problems. Kirk splitting into 2 Kirks the angelic and the beastly/demonic, Ryker finding a teleporter created double.
Really enjoyed your commentary on the series. I’d like to put forward an answer to your question about them not addressing why they consider a clone the same as the original person. I think the answer lies in the history even through no exposition exists. The realisation that one can copy their consciousness - memories, motivations, emotional triggers and neurotransmitter release patterns - means that no soul or spirit or any other magical element exists in the make-up of a person. Without this a person can break down into pure data, so backup and restore would create the original person. This makes complete sense unless one assumes a supernatural part to life and this universe does not. As you mention, they do not spend a lot of time explaining the background, every character, how the world works and other info that we pick up along the way. I guess they do not find it necessary to explain why discovery of the stacks basically debunked this part of religious lore.
It's not about religion. In the videogame, _soma_ , the protagonist (you) have to back yourself up and transfer your consciousness to another body to escape. It works but all you've done is transfer a COPY of yourself to this other body. As far as they know, the transfer worked flawlessly, but as far as YOU'RE concerned, it didn't work. You're still alive & trapped where you are, forever, while your copy escapes. It's the same as double stacking. Which one is the real you.
I recommend this show to everyone who asks for something to watch. The only thing I did not really care for was the sister part. I feel it could have been done in a different way.
Since it is quite obvious a season 3 is now off the table (not counting the anime spinoff) it might be a good time for a game development studio to create a PC game of this concept. That would make the whole 2 series even more immersive as now YOU could do all the things and stuff instead of "just" watching it.
Is this primarily for the show or the books? Because in the show Envoys ARE the rebels. CTAC is the Protectorate's spec-ops force (that were known as "envoys" in the books), and that is NEVER confused or unclear within the show.
came here after season two and ... If season one is 9/10 season two is 6/7 still really good, but it could never be as good as the first season. Except for Poe. Boi that Poe tho
Now that Season 2 is out, it's time for you to do a second video! Like you, I _loved_ this program! Smart, well thought out, interesting ideas: everything needed to suspend disbelief and get lost in a 10 hour immersion. Netflix outdid themselves with these!
Can someone explain how the asian assassin dude can digitally remove himself from camera footage in real time? That's one thing the show kind of annoyed me, and I don't think they explained it.
Ayyy They didn't really explain it. But he's basically using high tech device that shields him. He's good with tech or knows how to obtain it as we see when he kills poe with an advanced AI killing device.
Think of it as a personal cloaking device that affects electronics. Doesn't make you invisible to the naked eye, but it distorts cameras or the light absorbed by cameras. Seeing as how Raylene had been around for 2.5 centuries, she must have acquired a lot of experimental tech.
First season rocked, 2nd season not so much. I wasnt confused, it just wasn't as good as the 1st season. So glad I found this channel! And with it...a fellow Aussie 😁
I haven’t even finished the video and I gotta say... YOU ARE AMAZING!!! You are beyond thorough and are just a natural at explaining things (haha maybe look at going into education? 😂) anyway I just want to thank you for saving me a TON of time that would’ve been spent rewatching season 1 :)))
Everything you said about clones not really being 'you' stems from presuppositions you have about what makes us, well, us. It supposes the soul really does exist, but doesn't qualify what a soul even is. Are you even you from five minutes ago? If the only link between you and your past is your memory, doesn't that mean we only ever truly exist in the present, linked in the present to the past through memory? What's the difference between being replaced with yourself from 24 hours ago, and whacking your head so hard you forget the last day? The show doesn't tackle it head on because it's a minefield of opinions, and would alienate large swathes of the audience either which way. It raises a question, but does not and can not answer it.
I love the show but never knew why there was a part of me that hated it and i never knew why. Now as you explain the plot i realised how overwhelming and convoluted it all is. Still love it.
8:45 I don't think Kovach and his squad mates are closed or "buddy" at all, since Jaeger said they were put togther as they are the only ones that are available at that time, and one of them basically said "who's this guy" when they were in the prep room. Hence I think it's more "betraying the organisation I don't really love so I can protect my sis" than "choosing sis over buddies" in that moment.
Epic show. Epic recap. Cool voice. This video got you a sub, a like, and a bell trigger. Lol please do more of these for other great and complex shows like WestWorld, Game of Thrones, etc.. keep it up brother!
hey you reading this, I love you and wish you the best. Them issues that get you down here and there are not as big as your strength. Life is meaningless and will only hurt you if you take it too seriously. I love you 😘
This show looks to me like the result of the world we live in right now, the way things are moving seems like we're in the path of this type of life. Am I wrong?
What I'm saying is I never realised till watching your video that the Special Forces guys that kovacs killed when he meets his sister were also called 'envoys' I thought they was just called CTAC ??
Whatever it is, I thought the first season was truly something so out there but believable I can't stop watching it, sadly tho was kinda let down by the second season will re-watch tho just to get a better feel! Episode 4 season 1 one of the best things i have ever seen! BRILLIANT
You know something, I just thought of, at 19:02 ... Bancroft, whilst a really, REALLY shitty person, was victimized as well by Raileen BEFORE Takeshi came into the picture. She got his wife to drug him, got him to kill a girl, also got another girl that witnessed it killed, blackmailed him to change a law, helped his wife destroy a woman who was pregnant with his child that he cared about, probably hacked into his satellite to take that out after he shot himself, even tricked him into bringing back Takeshi to investigate his "murder". My gosh, I know rich people while having luxury, also have to beware of EVERYONE around them. He almost can't trust anyone. Maybe his son but after all the years of abuse....I don't think he could trust him either and that's by his own hand. I LOVE this show and I wish they would have allowed the final season 😭
how did they get his micro cam in his eye back if he blew up in the ship when it crashed? They had previously said that the eyeball camera had to be returned in order to get the footage
The back up is "You" at the time of your last upload. Just do your uploads Daily and you never lose more than 24 hours. That you have to scramble to rebuild. As they said having 2 clones active at the same time is illegal.
@Youkon Dukon You're right to a point. With the stacks, a person is basically carrying a computer that holds the sum of what is you. Effectively becoming the higher brain functions. The clone bodies would have an intact unstarted brain that could be used as spare parts. Until a Stack was inserted and the body went online. Of course this Idea would cause it's own problems as much as abortion does today. "When does life start?" Is it when the egg is inserted with the genetic finger print, or is it once the body becomes viable, or once a stack is put in to write itself onto the new body? this would be an extreme level of A.I. At present the A.I. has been officially relegated to a huge part of a super-computer..In effect becoming a brain of the size of a large building running on electricity and it's "blood" Liquid Nitrogen..
you messed up dude carefull not to confuse the book envoys who work for the protectorate and the series envoys who were created by the rebel leader quell (not originally buy the protectorate proof of that isq that the vidaura book role is replaced buy the quell training montage whi ch pretty much screw up the sequels)
If you read the reasons why they changed MAJOR plot points, they wanted more strong female characters. by doing this they destroyed the other 2 books. envoys are government infiltration agents, if you took seals,delta,greenies and forced recon then added some Buddhist monks, you get a average envoy.
They actually do address this in the show. Do you not recall in the end with Brancroft when he claims he 'destroyed that person' that RD'd the prostitute, etc. This is addressed multiple times in the show.
They do adress the complexity of dual stacks/ past self / you-YOU .... and character/personality development with and without all the memories/experiences .... also you can remember who the you-YOU used to be and ''adapt'' yourself...
Question, Hi first time caller, if you can just be stored in a stack, are you conscious while just in "stack mode"? Like without a body. Is it like you just living in your thoughts? Do they touch on that at all? It sounds like a personal hell if you're alive but just in the black void of your thoughts. I suppose that is touched on with the daughter and POE trying to help her within that stack VR setting. Also, can the stack just be loaded into VR simulations foregoing the need for a body at all? Just in some safe chamber while you can live eternally in some internet construct. Also, can your stack be just loaded into things besides "sleeves" kind of like the Cymeks in the Dune prequels (don't start booing if you don't like them) and I'm not talking about just the androids they can use, can you be a vending machine? Plus if Bancroft is just a backup then he really is dead imo, if your consciousness isn't backed up by the millisecond aren't you just essentially someone else at that point??? I'm glad you touch on that because at that point you are essentially a ghola unless it remembers right up until the point of death and even then is it you? It just opens up a lot of questions, which is what makes it really good. Excellent analogy and essay btw.
Pretty sure unless you are loaded into a virtual world, which is possible as we see this in the show, you are not conscience. In the show I think they call it "being on Ice," I think, it's been a while. So no, pretty sure that unless in your stack is loaded into a sleeve or a digital realm you are just blacked out, no thoughts or dreams or anything. I think.
@@JakesPlace That sounds as bad as death in a way. The psychological trauma associated with essentially time travelling or long periods of inactivity. I like shows like this that put the fantastical as somewhat plausible. Like with Dan Simmons writings..yeah it's far out but not entirely impossible.
And real fast to touch on the COPY/CLONE of Bancroft thing there is actually an episode of TNG S1, like episode 6 or something very early, that Picard can actually be considered DEAD! He's dies in the first few episodes...what they do is essentially BEAM an earlier version of him back on to the ship that was trapped in the transporter and this version has no recollection of what happened the whole episode. So every damn episode after it's not really Picard...kind of like the Bancroft paradox situation. This is touched on with gholas in Dune...they can recover memories right up from the moment of death so they are clones but also the person...there is some shady shit where one clone has been awakened with memories but he's looking at the previous clone still alive so there's two at the same time. Can there be two real consciousnesses of oneself? That stuff can be quite dodgy and horrifying I think. That has the makings of a grand sci-fi horror psychological thriller...who is really who in cloning and are any of them really who started in the situation in the first place.
ok think youve missed a trick. futher out you go out more tech discovered therefore more wealth hence timepod soldiers who can jump adapt and jump expansion levels?
Who else almost cried everytime Poe was being treated like trash even though hes so nice
In the second season it is even worse! He wants to be useful but does slowly realize how he breaks down.
haha
bro that was the sadest part of the series thus far, all he wanted to do was know what it meant be human and ultimately thats what destroyed him.
tears were most definitely shed
Lol
@@tomasfawcett8653 I fkn LUV POE!!! (MORE MORE MORE!!!)
I like how confusing it can be at times, makes the world feel more real.
How was it confusing at all lol
Also makes it like you also woke up into the future like kovacs
@@Siziusmopul yeah not confusing at all... try cloud atlas for that
I was hoping Kovac would be together with Ortega then I realize she doesn't love him, she's just there for the sleeve
AND WHAT A "MIGHTY FINE SLEEVE"!!!!
She did start to care about him, I think.
You mean she's only interested in him for his body!
Where have I heard that argument before? Loool
I think she didn't at first but eventually kind of fell for him and was torn because she wanted him but also wanted her cop buddy back but let him go knowing he had to do other shit anyways so she didn't fight for him,iI think if he showed love for her it would have broke her and she would have been with him
I know I’m late but the chemistry between the actors was really good as if there wasn’t suppose to be anything sexual or any emotion but they worked so well with each other but it’s made the characters motives confusing as to what Ortega wants, like she’s sleeping with an envoy in her partners sleeve, try explaining that when he spins back up
Who's watching this before they start season 2?
ME!
I watched this before season 2 and then came back to it again after. This show is 10/10
After because I still have questions 😭😂
Hahaha me
Not meeeee
Definitely recommend that you watch this series twice, especially if you were not fully engaged in watching it the first time. Hope they come back with a Season 2 it deserves it for sure.
just did that, loved it and i really hope a season 2 comes out. imagine exploring the galaxy etc. we'll see
The books did it better and the feminist director changed the story because she couldn't handle some of the adult material in the story. She also made up a brand new character to save the day in the last episode
@@instakardo you won't get that since takeshi is in the body of old boy
Kinda like Westworld. It's just too much the first time
season 2 releases in 2 days haha
This was the best recap I've seen. I forgot all this stuff and the show was way too complicated to recap in a 4 minutes vid like others tried to do. It takes 5 minutes just to recap what the jargon means in the show.
I love this serie, really hope a second season because good cyberpunk shows are rare.
unlikely since the screen writers ruined the other books in season 1
There are two other sequels in the book series so it's possible that a second season will come
But the show' s story was concluded.
@@koroplays3200 well fuck you because there is going to be a second season.
Season two on its way
One correction regarding Lizzie: Reileen didn't get rid of Lizzie using Neo-C codings, but instead sent her to one other facility of her business -- the Wei Clinic, an interrogation facility that's supposedly cutting edge in the field. In the episode where Takeshi was tortured by Dimi the twin the creature used on him was the same one that Takeshi saw in the last episode in VR, a new creature created to inflict pain on its host for torturing. This is how Lizzie's cortical stack broke and why she was able to be spun back up but needed psychological counseling.
Walter Xu Hey friend. Not really a correction as I did say "OR". You're right though I did say "she helped recode her OR make her go mad, or something like that." I also said (around 16 mins in) that she was sent to the torture place. So yes she wasn't recoded but I still said she went to the torture place and regardless the point if it all was Miriam owed her a favour for "disposing" of Lizzy regardless of the means. So yes one way or the other I pointed out that it was A or B but whatever the case she ended up in the torture room (I mentioned this at least twice) and so her coding is irrelevant. But thanks for clarifying.
Oh yeah and the guys when they were torturing Takeshi mentioned that the last time they used that program the subject's mind broke or she went crazy or whatever
@@jakezimmer7256 well they used that little creature to break individuals for military info and planning,government secrets. But using that on a perfectly normal woman who is Lizzie but that would be too extreme using a creature on a poor 16/18/19 year old who you're r***** I guess they used onto someone who wasn't able to break probably a Envoy or some tough cookie.
The only thing I would ask for altered carbon season 2 is to show more of the landscapes, because we didn’t really get to see much of the beautiful sci fi city’s. Other than that, this is hands down one of the best shows I’ve ever seen!!! I really hope they make a season 2!!!
10/10 SOOOOO GOOOOD!!!!!
Interjecting; we don't see it cos the people living in it don't see it. The only times we get a glimpse is when Kovacs is surveying the territory. They respect the land etc as much as they respect their bodies and life itself. As in not at all. It's a feature not a bug.
Did you get to watch season two ?
Season 3 is canceled
@@WayneT85 "Season 3 is canceled" - Yup. I took that personally, I'm afraid...
The show gets better and better in 2nd viewing. It's fricking amazing 👏
Thanks. I made the mistake to watch this show while doing other stuff. This video helped me to fill in the blanks :)
Not because of other stuff ;D
Das ich dich hier sehe... Du bist echt überall
Egal wo man schaut Simon ist nicht weit
Shame on you! Doing other stuff while watching so a great series
I totally missed the alien part,thanks.Try not to get RD and have your stack turned to slag.
Well the alien part is not really in the show, just a brief mention at the end thrown in there as a little nudge to the book fans I reckon.
Jake's Place Still I loved the series hope it gets a second season.Now do you think I should read the books or will it ruin it?
Kyle Vreeland I dunno. Do you like books? Depends how open minded you are I guess. Most book nerds crack the shits with TV/Movie adaptations. I don't give a shit. I like seeing things visualized. Just treat it as it's own thing and you good baby!
Jake's Place Books?Books?Ah you mean shreaded tree carcasses with squiggly lines.Ive heard of them but only in my travels to massive tree carcasses graveyards called Lee-brearys.I suppose I shall set out again and travel to these Lee-brearys thus allowing me to decifer the squiggles.Thank You.
Jake's Place *Takes Bow,Tips fadora and Disiapears into the "Dark Web" searching for /k posts of altered carbon*
Extremely pissed there won't be a season 3. This has become my favorite show ever.
sameeeee
me too 😭
Yup, best scifi Netflix original and Netflix canceled it.
@@chrismathiason8277 Because season 2 was... ... ...yeah...
Miriam killed Lizzie not because of the possible scandal, but because Lizzie is the only woman that Laurens Bancroft got pregnant besides her. Killing Lizzie is actually an act that adds so much depth to Miriam as a character.
Man I searched everywhere for a good recap to watch season 2 and yours is the only good one. Cheers!
I do agree. Also I feel thankful for including some book info since I didn’t read them
Thank you for taking the time to do this, it was very entertaining and informational
Cheers mate. Thanks for watching.
No time stamp needed.
You worked hard to make this longer video.
I intend to enjoy every second.!!
I really enjoyed this series. It was one of the most original sci-fi series to come out in years, and it's gritty cyberpunk style rocked. There story's plot was pretty complex. It will take a couple viewings to really understand everything. I imagine viewers not familiar with many of the sci-fi tropes in the show would be hopelessly lost. But it is a must see for any fan of the cyberpunk genre.
No it really isn't it's on par with several other shows that came out a few years earlier on sci-fi. You have continuum and dark matter.
@@joshuareynolds23 watch Dark Netflix (German)
@@joshuareynolds23 continuum and dark matter are jokes! TV shows to kill time if you cant do anything else with it but Altered Carbos is a a must watch with smart story and very good put together cuberpunk universe, good actors! Probably you are a teenager who just needs something easier to digest and thats fine but you cant compare dark matter with a masterpiece!
@@AexoeroV Continuum was amazing. the ending as is was very weak I'd agree with you about altered carbon except I read the books and you have no idea the things you are missing because they choose to do it this way. Great show of course just kind of a let down to me as a long time fan.
@@joshuareynolds23 i see, didnt read the books, maybe a not so good adaptation but anyways better than the shows mentioned but each with his taste. If you are a sci-fi fan i recommend The Expanse but probably you seen it, great show!
My absolute favorite show, ever. I think I have watched the first season about 4 times. Wish it was on dvd!
No, you got it wrong about Envoys. The Envoys do not use the same armor as CTAC and the Envoys are the ones trained by Quell, not by the Protectorate. Also, it was 48 hours for Bancroft's last backup. Ortega is just a Lieutenant, not really high ranking. The Captain is just the ranking officer of the one station that is used in the show, where Ortega is stationed.
Best recap ever. Now I can watch Season 2 in peace xD
Nice overview. Perfect recap while we get ready for season 2.
About the backing up thing. I'm pretty sure they've gone through that trauma because the implications of knowing what happened after you died as "you" wake up. It's essentially like nothing happened except you know a bit more now. These people have gone through this multiple times. They are no longer thinking One Life. They're playing the game.
This was explained in a way I didnt want... wake up and explain and connect the dots in this show it's our future
Very very possible
you forgot the vr torture wich played a big part in kovacks not being able to forgive his sister.
I loved this show so much that I stopped watching it partly because I was afraid it wouldn't land the ending, but it totally did... Season 2 was not so much, but it was still fun
I'm so glad I took the time to watch this video, even though the length of it shunned me away. This show was incredible and I'll definitely watch it for a second time now that I fully understand what happened. Amazing.
How on earth did you not understand what happened just by watching it? This story line is far from complicated. SMH, we're all screwed, welcome the idocracy.
@@thomgizziz Had a bad day bud?
Not long enough this is one the most original sci-fi premises I have ever seen/heard of!
As much as I love the AI Poe... I can't help but wonder what the show would have been like if Takeshi's sidekick was the same as the book... Jimmy Hendix?! Wait that can't be right (re-reads book). Yep, it's right.
Neat, really enjoyed the weird adventure Altered Carbon brought to the table, and on your questions of backups being close to cloning, I think the show focuses on taking mortality on a more literal than spiritual level ie. 1 = 1 rather than 1 = 1 sub a or b or so forth, it's a pretty straight forward interpretation of the world as a mathematical concept perhaps true to a science fiction universe than a science fantasy, if function A = function B then function B = function A and thus cloning implies a fundamentally identical copy that is like cloning but since the clone is fundamentally you with a negligible missing memory then the clone is fundamentally you. I get that some people believe that each new memory makes you unique from your previous self but there is some negligible aspects here and there like if say I die from an irrelevant and convoluted experience from eating a cookie and get backed up, my clone is still me, an older version of me technically but also unaffected by the cookie relative to what truely makes me, me. It might be best to think of people as numbers or machines, I have a doctrine of philosophy and ethics that are like my unique ID or core coding that defines who I am as a person, in the event that these ethics change, yes, I could arguably be a new person but my old self will still be able to reach the same conclusion anyways and thus we are the same because we do not judge ourselves superficially. This is why later in the movie where Takeshi clones himself that he can communicate and be so much in sync with himself and perhaps why we can argue the rock paper scissors games he held with himself were not so much of a random event but one where both made a calculated reason upon who would make which move and to what solution he would most prefer on both a strategic and ethical degree.
The most recent cases of cloning I have heard in our present day is cloning animals from live stock sheep to domestic pets like dogs, at which point, the cloning is only on a biological level of just the flesh rather than any mental state. It is a situation where the experiences of an individual start from such a blank state or revisionary edit of experiences that the clones are fundamentally different mentally and as beings with unique characters. Now, if we could clone say the neurons of a brain so that it were identical to another, since the electrical impulses would be identical and if those impulses were the sole definition of a person in the context of that system then clone A would equal original A. Hmm I think we have probably tried cloning bacteria or viruses at this point so if we were to assume say a virus were to not have a soul then virus A would equal clone virus A. It's perhaps a pessimistic view point but the universe the writer appears to have chosen for his writing.
Really impressive job with condensing everything down while keeping things really clear!
I love this show. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I pretty much forgot almost everything so this was helpful for season 2!
I love this show so much, especially the first season. And I loved watching this recap (even though I’ve watched the show a million times) because it really reminds you just how much there is to absorb and get your head around! Personally I didn’t have trouble following it but it has so much depth and detail that it’s almost believable! Love it. I just wish season 2 had the same harsh edge that season 1 had ☹️ it was still good but didn’t feel the same.
I feel the same friend.
I just finished rewatching Season 1 in anticipation of Season 2. So, this was an interesting and entertaining synopsis. (You kept censoring James Purefoy’s considerable man parts.) The casting was superb. Big shout out to Joel Kinnaman, Renée Elise Goldsberry, Chris Conner, and the aforementioned James Purefoy. I thought the premise had some significant plot holes; e.g., wouldn’t a civilization where real death was rare have a massive and unsustainable population explosion? And, who wouldn’t want a small and very exclusionary political/economic elite who consume massively disproportionate amounts of society’s goods/services live forever? Lastly, an Emmy should have gone to Matt Biedel. Speaking effortless Spanish when spun up as Ortega’s abuela for Dia de los Muertos then double-sleeved as Dimitri Cadman (Dimi the Twin) all in the same 20 minutes was an acting tour de force. Next up...season 2 with Anthony Mackie!
Thanks for the short and sweet summary :) Love the point you made near the end about how the series doesn't address how DHF backups are essentially a cloned consciousness. I'm actually writing an essay at university about exactly this! How can the Bancroft arrested at the end be held accountable if he is a clone of a Bancroft from before the crime?
I think the philosophical ramifications of "is it really you?" are hinted at in Episode 1. Ortega tells who Dimi The Twin and explains that "double sleeving" is a capital offence. You get caught double sleeving both copies get erased. But why? Why such a harsh punishment if you double sleeve yourself? Make it illegal sure, for obvious reasons, but why make it a capital crime if you only do it to yourself?
I think it's because it raises the question you did. They can accept a linear continuity from one body to the next, but the idea of reloading a previous save complicates things, and double sleeving just destroys it entirely. If you can double sleeve then you are not being transferred but rather duplicated.
Double sleeving opens up such a philosophical (and uncomfortable) can of worms they'd rather just make it a capital crime and not think too much about it than really confront what re-sleeving actually is.
.... I've seen it three times. It was deeply satisfying each time I watched it.
I needed this for season 2
Some would argue that your Consciousness is your soul.
Thanks for the recap! I only just found out about this series, so I wanted to know more about it if I decide to watch it.
The whole cloned memory thing reminded me of that movie "The 6th Day".
Great video!!!
About the philosophical question, " is your clone still you".... I've always thought about this one.
If clones are possible, but are kept in the dark from us, you know the elite stuff and celebrity cloning...if that's all true then I think physicallly the clone really becomes you...but for it to act like you, it will have to be taught about how you were and how you usually thought, which according to me should be really hard, you can't really know how one thinks...well unless the government really commits about learning about who you are...then possibly....then your clone can possibly act, to be like you...but won't really be you, not really...it didn't really go through your experiences, but learned about them...best it can do is fool everyone, but not itself.
Which is more or less kinda of the same thing with the stacks and the backup-ing.
We live life being taught what to do, and how to be as children...by parents,the society and the environment around us...but we come of age, like really think for ourselves, say when we teenagers maybe, it's the same thing but at that point, we have a foundation of who we are, we each tell each other we already know how to act and respond to certain situation...so going forward what determines us is experiences and the foundation of the knowledge of who we already perceive ourselves to be...this all is based on what we've gone through, thus we are determined by the memories of who we are.
So I don't know about souls,some could argue there's no souls and stuff but that don't really matter... it's irrelevant in this case because I don't think your soul determines who you are in anyway not in this life on earth at least.
So I think the backup-ing of the stack,might not really be them when they return, but they are them, because of the memories they remember and the experiences they think they shared...
They still become who they are because of the Memories, because they are faced with the burden of choosing their choices according to their Memories (which has past experiences and similar event-choices more or less)
I might have been repeating the same point all over again, I tend to do that....hope you understand my point of view though.
Just watched season 1 and going to watch season 2. I love this show..its like a mix of Ghost in the Shell and Blade Runner...its so dark and brutal and the plot is well put together.
Loved the series. FYI, screenwriting issues. CTAC was a constant. See the scene where the downloaded CTAC group talks about the drugs the UN provides to ease resleeving. Envoys were actually what Quel turned her freedom fighters into. In the book, the Envoy training was the UN, I do believe. Quel was recognized as the leader of the rebels and her teachings of politics and rebellion were her historical selling point. No explicit relationship there. Also, no sister character. The books were great, the show was as adapted as needed for the commercial screen. Also noted, several seeds planted in the show from the sequel books to link to the future screen adaptations/seasons.
Don't let any of this dissuade you from the books. If you enjoy the main character in the books, read the urban fantasy series The Dresden Files. Similarly great character development and internal dialogues that screenwriters have problems with. ( Note: please don't see the screen adaptation of the File. It's screenwriter's failed challenge could put you off...Unless you find it interesting to see the challenges screenwriters face in getting books through to the screen.)
I was out of the loop of streaming shows and found out about the show's announcement, the fact that the first season had been released, and binged it, all within a 30day period. Stunned.
I noticed that mistake too, even though he made many more mistakes it's not that bad of a recap video
I appreciate this video. It helps fill in the gaps due to drinking while watching.
I watched the whole thing to see if you had it..you're on point...I understood the whole thing being I'm ocd lol......one thing you referred to envoys as either protectorate or qwellcrest falconer trained guys,the way I understood it is the envoys by definition were trained by qwellcrest and even more hardcore than the protectorate guys,being able to defend mind influence of simulated torture in an AI torturing you over and over again...(DIMI tortured kovacks bad and he didn't break,DIMI was actually pissed cause he couldn't break him)hence the rich meth guy calling out to everyone that he owned kovacks saying he has"the last envoy" at his little shin dig party....all in all excellent breakdown of the story
This video is great, worth the watch!
It's coming out tomorrow. Thanks for the summary.
Who's here in 2020 waiting for Season-2?
It's baaaack!
@@ZLwh1ne It is and it's? well not sure yet. And the first season was just so awesome... But this dick can't even tell the dif between Envoys and C-tac. So there's that. How the fuck am I supposed to take them seriously when "Everything explained" is just so full of shit. Not subscribing. not worth it.
I'm here for the refresher!
Roy B. So you guys think the elders are coming back and whoever they were fighting (in a later season) since the elder said they left the door open
@@TheMaverick454 If you listen to the dialogue at one point either Quell or the Elder say "the Elders put all of it's energy into one consciousness."
Meaning that was the last and only elder. So in saying that, the door left open refers specifically to the one and only Elder getting out of the firewall.
Absolutely amazing transhumanistic sci fi story, just finished season 1....
Though, as this video dude says, I was really annoyed by the materialistic view of the writer. None of the characters ever ask obvious questions like "If a version of me is 'backed up' in a computer somewhere, and that is used to 'reincarnate' me after I die, won't that just be someone else? A clone?"
As always, I'm late to the party. Just watched season1 and this was a good break down. Getting ready to start season 2 but wanted to solidify my understanding on a few core concepts. I definitely like the show but more when it's about the detective work tbh the love story stuff is only tolerable for the lore building.
One thing you left out that is kinda cool is that in the VR torture scene, they mention that new thing that drives the victim totally insane, and that it is heavily implied that the daughter of that ex-CTAC dude was driven insane with it
I loved the acting. Like the guy grandma went into, and the guy hosting the wife. Full body acting against type. So impressive!
Whenever someone asks me to reccomend a tv series i allways start with this
it's kovaTSCH :)
Slovac.
Wonderful breakdown. Thank you.
"So if your stack gets fucking blown out of your face!" I'm in love. Also, Miriam didn't kill Lizzie to avoid a scandal. She worshipped Lawrence. She gave him everything she had and he stripped her (and her children) of any life they had the chance to live. He outsourced the happiness she had given him with her own body and soul. The only dignity he allowed her was ensuring that she was the only woman allowed to produce his heirs. And she gave him 22 of them. Apparently all disappointments. When he loved Lizzie enough to allow her to have his child... he took away the only thing she had left. It was all she lived for.
If no 2nd season was planned, pretty sure Jaeger , Covac's CTAC commander would pop up for a final showdown.
BTW All those who have problem with the cloning, Star Trek beaming up has similar problems.
Kirk splitting into 2 Kirks the angelic and the beastly/demonic, Ryker finding a teleporter created double.
Zivi Mur - As the author wrote several books they have rich material.
I kinda thought altered carbon is indeed how life is lived, but not that extreme.
Really enjoyed your commentary on the series. I’d like to put forward an answer to your question about them not addressing why they consider a clone the same as the original person. I think the answer lies in the history even through no exposition exists. The realisation that one can copy their consciousness - memories, motivations, emotional triggers and neurotransmitter release patterns - means that no soul or spirit or any other magical element exists in the make-up of a person. Without this a person can break down into pure data, so backup and restore would create the original person. This makes complete sense unless one assumes a supernatural part to life and this universe does not. As you mention, they do not spend a lot of time explaining the background, every character, how the world works and other info that we pick up along the way. I guess they do not find it necessary to explain why discovery of the stacks basically debunked this part of religious lore.
It's not about religion. In the videogame, _soma_ , the protagonist (you) have to back yourself up and transfer your consciousness to another body to escape. It works but all you've done is transfer a COPY of yourself to this other body. As far as they know, the transfer worked flawlessly, but as far as YOU'RE concerned, it didn't work. You're still alive & trapped where you are, forever, while your copy escapes. It's the same as double stacking. Which one is the real you.
Thanks for the deep dive, got me actually exited to watch season 2! Sometimes jumping back in feels like a chore.
8:30 I think that his body was used for other things tho, as he has new marks and looks a bit confused by it afaik.
It was really cool. Honestly would have past it up until the introduction of Poe. I agree that he was my favorite character too.
I recommend this show to everyone who asks for something to watch.
The only thing I did not really care for was the sister part. I feel it could have been done in a different way.
Since it is quite obvious a season 3 is now off the table (not counting the anime spinoff) it might be a good time for a game development studio to create a PC game of this concept. That would make the whole 2 series even more immersive as now YOU could do all the things and stuff instead of "just" watching it.
Games are very cinematic these days. I'd play the shit out of a Altered Carbon RPG.
Is this primarily for the show or the books? Because in the show Envoys ARE the rebels. CTAC is the Protectorate's spec-ops force (that were known as "envoys" in the books), and that is NEVER confused or unclear within the show.
came here after season two and ...
If season one is 9/10
season two is 6/7 still really good, but it could never be as good as the first season. Except for Poe. Boi that Poe tho
Woah thanks I needed that explanation. Just earned yourself a new sub
I watched it 3 times. I can hardly wait for season 2!
I read the books and watched season 1 5 times. Freaking amazing. cant wait for season 2
Now that Season 2 is out, it's time for you to do a second video!
Like you, I _loved_ this program! Smart, well thought out, interesting ideas: everything needed to suspend disbelief and get lost in a 10 hour immersion. Netflix outdid themselves with these!
Can someone explain how the asian assassin dude can digitally remove himself from camera footage in real time? That's one thing the show kind of annoyed me, and I don't think they explained it.
Ayyy They didn't really explain it. But he's basically using high tech device that shields him. He's good with tech or knows how to obtain it as we see when he kills poe with an advanced AI killing device.
Broke my heart when Poe died.
that guy was a dicko
Felt so good when he was begging and crying for mercy and just gets offed by Ortega. Justice served.
Think of it as a personal cloaking device that affects electronics. Doesn't make you invisible to the naked eye, but it distorts cameras or the light absorbed by cameras.
Seeing as how Raylene had been around for 2.5 centuries, she must have acquired a lot of experimental tech.
First season rocked, 2nd season not so much. I wasnt confused, it just wasn't as good as the 1st season.
So glad I found this channel! And with it...a fellow Aussie 😁
I haven’t even finished the video and I gotta say... YOU ARE AMAZING!!! You are beyond thorough and are just a natural at explaining things (haha maybe look at going into education? 😂) anyway I just want to thank you for saving me a TON of time that would’ve been spent rewatching season 1 :)))
Hey man thats really nice of you to say. Cheers.
Everything you said about clones not really being 'you' stems from presuppositions you have about what makes us, well, us. It supposes the soul really does exist, but doesn't qualify what a soul even is. Are you even you from five minutes ago? If the only link between you and your past is your memory, doesn't that mean we only ever truly exist in the present, linked in the present to the past through memory? What's the difference between being replaced with yourself from 24 hours ago, and whacking your head so hard you forget the last day?
The show doesn't tackle it head on because it's a minefield of opinions, and would alienate large swathes of the audience either which way. It raises a question, but does not and can not answer it.
This comment scares me
They indirectly adress it as well with Dimi 'the twin'. Unknowingly maybe. Because 'they' started as one person and then copied himself in two.
I love the show but never knew why there was a part of me that hated it and i never knew why. Now as you explain the plot i realised how overwhelming and convoluted it all is. Still love it.
Watching Season 2 now, thanks for this. It got me back up to date more than any of the other videos.
8:45 I don't think Kovach and his squad mates are closed or "buddy" at all, since Jaeger said they were put togther as they are the only ones that are available at that time, and one of them basically said "who's this guy" when they were in the prep room. Hence I think it's more "betraying the organisation I don't really love so I can protect my sis" than "choosing sis over buddies" in that moment.
Epic show. Epic recap. Cool voice. This video got you a sub, a like, and a bell trigger. Lol please do more of these for other great and complex shows like WestWorld, Game of Thrones, etc.. keep it up brother!
hey you reading this, I love you and wish you the best. Them issues that get you down here and there are not as big as your strength. Life is meaningless and will only hurt you if you take it too seriously. I love you 😘
Best recap, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words friend.
This series is badass. Absolutely hooked on it. I’ve watched through twice, contemplating a third time. Probably will.
It's worth it
I’ll get around to it soon enough, I’ve got a couple others I’m working through right now.
This show looks to me like the result of the world we live in right now, the way things are moving seems like we're in the path of this type of life. Am I wrong?
Clearly someone needs to put Dune on film the right way to get across the difference between Duncan Idaho clones and stacks.
Way late to this party, but thanks SO much for this. Well done and super entertaining while still explaining!
Best recap of Altered Carbon S1 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Mate I thought that the rebels were the envoys because kel says "we are envoys, and we take what is given!" ??
What I'm saying is I never realised till watching your video that the Special Forces guys that kovacs killed when he meets his sister were also called 'envoys' I thought they was just called CTAC ??
Whatever it is, I thought the first season was truly something so out there but believable I can't stop watching it, sadly tho was kinda let down by the second season will re-watch tho just to get a better feel!
Episode 4 season 1 one of the best things i have ever seen! BRILLIANT
Dude, this video is great, Thank you!
No worries. Thanks for watching.
Yo Man Thanks for this. Needed this so bad before I could start the Second Season. Very well explained just I remember!!!
You know something, I just thought of, at 19:02 ...
Bancroft, whilst a really, REALLY shitty person, was victimized as well by Raileen BEFORE Takeshi came into the picture.
She got his wife to drug him, got him to kill a girl, also got another girl that witnessed it killed, blackmailed him to change a law, helped his wife destroy a woman who was pregnant with his child that he cared about, probably hacked into his satellite to take that out after he shot himself, even tricked him into bringing back Takeshi to investigate his "murder".
My gosh, I know rich people while having luxury, also have to beware of EVERYONE around them. He almost can't trust anyone. Maybe his son but after all the years of abuse....I don't think he could trust him either and that's by his own hand.
I LOVE this show and I wish they would have allowed the final season 😭
I might be wrong, it’s not United Nations envoy court, it is Colonial Tactical Assault Corps. Envoys were a whole different community.
such a well made video, mate
two years later A C is back. cant wait
how did they get his micro cam in his eye back if he blew up in the ship when it crashed? They had previously said that the eyeball camera had to be returned in order to get the footage
This was amazing are you going to do season 2
Just finished Season 2 today. Working on a video now :)
The back up is "You" at the time of your last upload. Just do your uploads Daily and you never lose more than 24 hours. That you have to scramble to rebuild. As they said having 2 clones active at the same time is illegal.
@Youkon Dukon You're right to a point. With the stacks, a person is basically carrying a computer that holds the sum of what is you. Effectively becoming the higher brain functions. The clone bodies would have an intact unstarted brain that could be used as spare parts. Until a Stack was inserted and the body went online. Of course this Idea would cause it's own problems as much as abortion does today. "When does life start?" Is it when the egg is inserted with the genetic finger print, or is it once the body becomes viable, or once a stack is put in to write itself onto the new body? this would be an extreme level of A.I. At present the A.I. has been officially relegated to a huge part of a super-computer..In effect becoming a brain of the size of a large building running on electricity and it's "blood" Liquid Nitrogen..
you messed up dude carefull not to confuse the book envoys who work for the protectorate and the series envoys who were created by the rebel leader quell (not originally buy the protectorate proof of that isq that the vidaura book role is replaced buy the quell training montage whi ch pretty much screw up the sequels)
If you read the reasons why they changed MAJOR plot points, they wanted more strong female characters. by doing this they destroyed the other 2 books. envoys are government infiltration agents, if you took seals,delta,greenies and forced recon then added some Buddhist monks, you get a average envoy.
@@davekell36 and because the feminist director couldn't deal with reality
They actually do address this in the show. Do you not recall in the end with Brancroft when he claims he 'destroyed that person' that RD'd the prostitute, etc. This is addressed multiple times in the show.
They do adress the complexity of dual stacks/ past self / you-YOU .... and character/personality development with and without all the memories/experiences .... also you can remember who the you-YOU used to be and ''adapt'' yourself...
Question, Hi first time caller, if you can just be stored in a stack, are you conscious while just in "stack mode"? Like without a body. Is it like you just living in your thoughts? Do they touch on that at all? It sounds like a personal hell if you're alive but just in the black void of your thoughts. I suppose that is touched on with the daughter and POE trying to help her within that stack VR setting. Also, can the stack just be loaded into VR simulations foregoing the need for a body at all? Just in some safe chamber while you can live eternally in some internet construct. Also, can your stack be just loaded into things besides "sleeves" kind of like the Cymeks in the Dune prequels (don't start booing if you don't like them) and I'm not talking about just the androids they can use, can you be a vending machine? Plus if Bancroft is just a backup then he really is dead imo, if your consciousness isn't backed up by the millisecond aren't you just essentially someone else at that point??? I'm glad you touch on that because at that point you are essentially a ghola unless it remembers right up until the point of death and even then is it you? It just opens up a lot of questions, which is what makes it really good. Excellent analogy and essay btw.
Pretty sure unless you are loaded into a virtual world, which is possible as we see this in the show, you are not conscience. In the show I think they call it "being on Ice," I think, it's been a while. So no, pretty sure that unless in your stack is loaded into a sleeve or a digital realm you are just blacked out, no thoughts or dreams or anything. I think.
@@JakesPlace That sounds as bad as death in a way. The psychological trauma associated with essentially time travelling or long periods of inactivity. I like shows like this that put the fantastical as somewhat plausible. Like with Dan Simmons writings..yeah it's far out but not entirely impossible.
And real fast to touch on the COPY/CLONE of Bancroft thing there is actually an episode of TNG S1, like episode 6 or something very early, that Picard can actually be considered DEAD! He's dies in the first few episodes...what they do is essentially BEAM an earlier version of him back on to the ship that was trapped in the transporter and this version has no recollection of what happened the whole episode. So every damn episode after it's not really Picard...kind of like the Bancroft paradox situation. This is touched on with gholas in Dune...they can recover memories right up from the moment of death so they are clones but also the person...there is some shady shit where one clone has been awakened with memories but he's looking at the previous clone still alive so there's two at the same time. Can there be two real consciousnesses of oneself? That stuff can be quite dodgy and horrifying I think. That has the makings of a grand sci-fi horror psychological thriller...who is really who in cloning and are any of them really who started in the situation in the first place.
@@carcillian from dead person's perspective it's an instant
ok think youve missed a trick. futher out you go out more tech discovered therefore more wealth hence timepod soldiers who can jump adapt and jump expansion levels?