I love how Simon Jordan brings up the likes of Souness, Allardyce and Pardew (3 managers who are largely disliked by our fans because of their arrogance and rotten style of play) when trying to enforce his argument that our fans expect too much, yet he completely ignores the likes of Roeder and Hughton who we were in support of. Those 2 managers understood our club and didn't talk the club or the fans down whilst talking up the opposition.
You're never going to win an argument or put your point across effectively if you talk about things that go against your narrative are you, so they don't.
@@Simm0700 you're not wrong, but at the same time it's disgusting to criticise and create an opinion on us based on only managers that we've had bad relations with, that's completely bias and nonsensical.
Craig Hope wrote a great article on the calamity that was Steve Bruce at NUFC (I urge you to all read it). I have not followed Bruce’s career and did not care about his past but judged him from day 1 at NUFC. He has been terrible from the start. We won games that just did not make any sense how we won (we call it BRUCEBALL) and should have lost 99% of his games. I am just happy that today Bruce is no longer at the club and we can try and build our club with someone more competent. I hope he has a great life in Manchester for the rest of his career & leave us alone.
We'll look after him.. Like Bobby and Robbo. Won more on his own than Newcastle as a club and kept you up for two seasons. Bit more respect for one of your own. That's why your fast becoming a very unpopular set of fans
@@squirrel7t7 very unpopular? When have Newcastle fans ever been liked? Other club fans are jealous of the support that club gets. Bruce didn't win anything on his own, football is a team sport.
I was prepared to give him a chance after we beat Bournemouth but after that result he's made mistake after mistake he's a tactically awful manager especially the Brighton games stick out for me awful
@@squirrel7t7 one of out own ?? I beg your pardon he’s no affiliation with Newcastle united just read his comments when he took the Sunderland job !! He’s Man Utd through and through so stop the geordie rhetoric as it’s wearing thin
@@squirrel7t7 tell you what, when ole has you second from bottom and staring relegation in the face and you shout from the rooftops that “ no, don’t sack him, he’s one of our own “ then, and only then, will I take what you say with any sort of seriousness.
Unfair media bias? The man has a abysmal record 7 wins in 38 games is ridiculous he deserved the sack, some of the backing Steve bruce has got is ridiculous when you actually look at his record throughout his career this isn't a newcastle thing he gets this everywhere he goes because he's a bad manager.
@@nicholasbaldwin4897 your missing the point completely I think. The commenter is just saying he could argue with his shadow. I don't think he should not give his opinion lol.
Hope is probably the best journalist covering the club. His views are very much in line with 99.9% of supporters. Simon has spoken fairly well recently about NUFC given his historical opposition and derision towards the fanbase and new owners but he's wrong here. Bruce is the most protected manager I've ever seen from his media pals. If this was a foreign manager, guarantee he wouldn't get half these 'pundit experts' defending him.
He's not supposed to be in line with the fans, his job as a journalist is to report the facts and give a balanced view on things. He's been out for Bruce for years and tried his absolute best to undermine him and wrote false stories or grossly twisted ones. Made up Simon called him out like this.
Everyone outside Newcastle can see you are at least 4 players short of what is needed to stay up. Results will not improve until the transfer window opens. It is simply a lack of quality.
All his media pals, along with Ashley’s mates have been intolerable through all of this… if it was a foreign manager they’d be shouting from the rooftops to sack him
In the real world, if you were a consistent failure, people would stop hiring you. In Football, not only do you keep getting hired, regardless. But you also get a nice pay off everytime
We didn’t like Bruce because his style of play and laziness at every club he has managed is beyond shocking, I would love to see any other fans take him at there clubs. Dark days
He got Newcastle 12th and 13th place finishes how is that struggling. Newcastle fan’s expectations were ridiculously under Ashley and the fans are mad that Steve Bruce took a mid table team at best and kept them a mid table team.
@@charlieshorto6558 so smartarse, he got us 12th and 13th, and you’d be happy with that eh ? So you have no ambition to be better ? Just because we have that makes us delusional ? And please, please, please explain to me how, with additions to the squad do we get worse ? Even with the same squad you would expect a certain level would you not ? Hmmmmmmm, let me think, how about this for an answer…BAD MANAGEMENT, now kindly piss off 😁
@@charlieshorto6558 He's doing a great job at WBA now isn't he. He's consistent to say the least. In future butt out of situations you will never understand. Cnut
@@jimboll6982 you seem like a rational person calling me a c**t just because I defended Steve Bruce’s job what he did at Newcastle. Get a life you absolute failure
It was his choice to be put through that as you are calling it! He could have resigned, but the big payoff was more important. Bruce has probably earned more for sackings than any other manager.
The nonsense about Bruce reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George tries his best to get fired but ends up getting praised no matter what he does
Turns out Craig Hope was right. Steve Bruce was a lazy, amateurish manager who cared more for his self, his golfing and his stomach than he did training our players. Apology owed here.
I hate this narrative that Newcastle fans have unrealistic expectations 🙄 we would be happy to be competitive and play decent football and Steve Bruce would never be able to do the job that's needed.
Simon calling out Craig's journalistic credit is laughable. Saying that Craig Hope is guilty of having pushed a narrative all the while he pushes the false narrative of the "expectations" and "demands" of Newcastle fans. No matter how many fans or journalists call in to correct him on this, he continues to bait the Newcastle fans The likes of Craig Hope gave Newcastle fans an honest platform to speak which was so refreshing to listen to a journalist accurately echoing the hopes of fans without a dishonest agenda. Even Gary Neville listened to fans and gave an honest account of what Newcastle fans really want, and when he felt Bruce was being used as a human shield, he spoke out. I can respect that that sort of balanced approach. Simon on the other hand lacks consistent moral integrity and often slips up by showing his bitter, vindictive attitude towards Newcastle fans
he really was the worst manager, took to much time off, lazy. Simon says the reason no English managers are in the top three are because of lack of professionalism. a trait you can not attribute to Steve.
Here two years later, Newcastle have gone very well after giving a bright up and coming manager an opportunity with the fans fully backing the team in the stands while Bruce took West Brom from Playoff area to relegation area in the Championship so needless to say Craig Hope won this and Jordan lost it
As a bluenose also, I would adore this idea. Fantastic times, that first season in the prem in 02/03 after doing the double over Aston Villa. Memories ❤️
Stop blaming media and the 'Bruce the victim' nonsense! In any other era in football he'd have resigned. He held on to get a multi million pound pay out... which he didn't deserve. Abject tactics and he lost dressing room last season. A fan of Newcastle would have left at that point. His performance on and off pitch didn't deserve the multi million pay off he'll get. He took the hate to get the cash, shameless but his choice. Simon is full of it when it comes to Bruce and NUFC fans.
@W2L coz Bruce is the ONLY manager to get stick ? F**k me man, it’s been going on for f**kin eons ! Every sing damn manager over the years who has performed shite, and 7 wins out of 37 is SHITE, has gotten stick and abuse, it goes with the territory, if you expect the fans to sit back and say nothing whilst muttering under their breath then I think it’s you who are deluded, if it was your club would you stay silent ? And if you answer yes then you’re a liar !
Alert! Someone who doesn't support Newcastle tells Newcastle reporter living in Newcastle how Newcastle fans feel, while disregarding poll saying 94% of Newcastle fans wanted him sacked.
7 wins in 10 months. 9 games in a row without a win. If that is not good enough reasons for the sack I do not know what is. I do not believe any other manager would have been given so much slack.
This is the man who walked out on Palace after managing them for 5 minutes, managed Villa & Birmingham and Newcastle & Sunderland, the man is a glutton for punishment.
What’s funny is journalists who can’t play the sport have no real understanding of it but are happy to make out they do because they have a journalism degree very strange
The only thing you have to ask yourself about steve Bruce is if he fit to manage another premier league club and if the answer no he isn't fit to manage another club in the prem then why is he hailed as somebody that shouldn't be sacked?
They said last week he deserved the chance to continue themselves. I feel for Bruce the fans just hated him and whether we won or lost he couldn't get them onside. Ultimately the side was poor and that's how it ends
Won't matter who they bring in, Newcastle are crap, have generally always been crap, I mean they had a few good years in the mid 90s and now every fan of the club thinks it should be that way always.
Craig is spot on. Simon is wrong on this. He’s usually pretty self aware but not being able to recognise that he’s a Bruce apologist is laughable. He’s not a top six manager. Yes. But he’s not top 6 of the Championship. Steve Bruce is a bottom half Championship manager these days.
Craig hope is the only journalist who has hit the nail on the head with his reporting. As A toon fan he literally hits every nail on the head. Jordan is a absolute clown. Literally only backs Bruce cos he’s mates with him. Trash pundit.
Newcastle fans are delusional and this Craig guy too 😂 If you ever think any other manager would have done a better job or even keep Newcastle in the prem you’re crazy
What on earth are you talking about when did Bruce ever win anything also Rafa has managed some of the best teams on the planet as Bruce has managed villa lol give your head a shake pal
Rafa inherited a poor squad and improved the players with clever coaching and actually made the club money on transfers in/out.... Bruce came in spent 140 adding to the same squad and now Newcastle are in another relegation battle,I don’t dislike Bruce but he’s a championship manager not premier league,just look at his record,relegation relegation relegation with various clubs
Not really, 8th highest net spend during his time. Frankly, it's a miracle the club stayed up with statistically the worst PL win rate manager in history.
@@sk00p silly argument. Our squad value is comparable to Brighton and they are 4th. Our squad is worth nearly 50m more than Brentford and they are top 10 as a newly promoted side. Make any excuses you like, the fact is Bruce is a poor manager, who can't coach his team, set up formations, play players in the right positions or develop and improve them. Potter and Frank show a good manager with a clear vision for their team can achieve great things. Bruce is a dinosaur and won't manage in the PL ever again.
@@pjr7661 do some research. Ashley was a leech sucking the club dry and taking it backwards. A club should belong and represent it's local area or city. An owner should want to do the best for the club. Ashley wanted to do what's best for him - making money and getting free advertising. Fans, legends, managers, players, it didn't matter to him as he was only focused on his own personal greed. As for Bruce, he was a puppet appointment. If you had billions of dollars, why would you entrust it to a man with no talent as a manager, or who can't figure out how best lineup, formation or team in his third season in charge. Like giving a Ferrari to a toddler, it would only end badly. The point is Bruce is useless and HAS BEEN BACKED. Too many uninformed clowns pretending to be experts reckon he hasn't been backed or given a fair chance or compare him to Rafa despite having over 100m of additional signings afforded to him.
Well done Craig Hope. A man who's job it was to attend every match and interview knows a lot more about the Bruce situation and his antics, than any of the general commentators of football
I am by no means a simon jordan fan but what he says about this guy is very true,he has never had a good word to say about steve bruce and has used his position to whip up the steve bruce out gang from the start.Newcastle fans make me laugh,what do they think anyone can do being given no money by ashley to buy any good players to push this team to anything other than a relegation battle with six to eight teams down there,it is crazy talk to think any person put in charge of this team could do any better,wake up for gods sake,you should be thanking this man for keeping you up for the last two seasons,and i hope that newcastle united get relegated at the end of this season,you so called fans should hang your heads in shame the way this guy was treated.
I'm and NUFC fan. I didn't want Bruce to fail, I would have loved him to succeed. I just knew that he would fail sooner or later because he is a bog average manager. This "the fans wanted him to fail" trope is complete and utter bs.
Steve Bruce was a dinosaur and will always be, however much his buddies try to paint a different picture. The best thing them Villa fans did was represent him with a cabbage - truer depictions could not exist.
It’s mad how people get paid to speak so much waffle, Steve Bruce was horrendous as a manager and is worse now than he was 10 years ago, proven by facts and statistics, he’s got Newcastle on relegation form, no wins in 8 but yet Newcastle fans are the worst ? And this is coming from a Sunderland fan who’s suffered his horrendous management before 😂😂
It was obvious the role of Newcastle manager became too big for Steve Bruce once the owners came in but some Newcastle fans gave him way too much stick. He was employed by a non ambitious owner in Mike Ashley to simply keep them in the league and despite Newcastle fans obviously wanting more that was all Steve Bruce was employed to do and he did that. The lack of progress made was due to the lack of money he had to spend compared to teams around him and if you look at points tallys last season and the one before it was very similar if not better than Rafas. It wouldn't of hurt for Newcastle fans to give him the respect he deserves on his 1000th game and show some appreciation for Steve's work before they start this new era
Simon is such a breath of fresh air on talkSPORT. To hear someone push back with a sensible, logical, eloquent argument for a guest is so refreshing. 👏👏👏
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I love how Simon Jordan brings up the likes of Souness, Allardyce and Pardew (3 managers who are largely disliked by our fans because of their arrogance and rotten style of play) when trying to enforce his argument that our fans expect too much, yet he completely ignores the likes of Roeder and Hughton who we were in support of. Those 2 managers understood our club and didn't talk the club or the fans down whilst talking up the opposition.
You're never going to win an argument or put your point across effectively if you talk about things that go against your narrative are you, so they don't.
@@Simm0700 you're not wrong, but at the same time it's disgusting to criticise and create an opinion on us based on only managers that we've had bad relations with, that's completely bias and nonsensical.
PArdew wasn’t that bad tbh
Simon “I fell out with Steve Bruce when I was at palace” Jordan
@Sam Carrick 😂😂
"and developed a taste for Steve Bruce's semen"
@@judyhopps9380 bit strange pal
He’s now taken West Brom from 5th into the Championship drop zone. Does he still ‘deserve a level of credibility’, Simon?
Love Craig hope for calling Bruce out on his BS
he accepted a contract, he could of walked if he wanted to. He got a big payout lets not forget 7 wins in 37
You expected him to win 20 out of 37 with that squad? Lol
@@gglodz5343 Now this comment by you is what we like to call a dumb opinion and close-minded
@@gglodz5343 no but I’d expect better than a 19 % win rate .. I take it you’ve a turd inside your head as it can’t be a brain
Craig Hope wrote a great article on the calamity that was Steve Bruce at NUFC (I urge you to all read it). I have not followed Bruce’s career and did not care about his past but judged him from day 1 at NUFC. He has been terrible from the start. We won games that just did not make any sense how we won (we call it BRUCEBALL) and should have lost 99% of his games. I am just happy that today Bruce is no longer at the club and we can try and build our club with someone more competent. I hope he has a great life in Manchester for the rest of his career & leave us alone.
We'll look after him.. Like Bobby and Robbo. Won more on his own than Newcastle as a club and kept you up for two seasons. Bit more respect for one of your own. That's why your fast becoming a very unpopular set of fans
@@squirrel7t7 very unpopular? When have Newcastle fans ever been liked? Other club fans are jealous of the support that club gets. Bruce didn't win anything on his own, football is a team sport.
I was prepared to give him a chance after we beat Bournemouth but after that result he's made mistake after mistake he's a tactically awful manager especially the Brighton games stick out for me awful
@@squirrel7t7 one of out own ?? I beg your pardon he’s no affiliation with Newcastle united just read his comments when he took the Sunderland job !! He’s Man Utd through and through so stop the geordie rhetoric as it’s wearing thin
@@squirrel7t7 tell you what, when ole has you second from bottom and staring relegation in the face and you shout from the rooftops that “ no, don’t sack him, he’s one of our own “ then, and only then, will I take what you say with any sort of seriousness.
Unfair media bias? The man has a abysmal record 7 wins in 38 games is ridiculous he deserved the sack, some of the backing Steve bruce has got is ridiculous when you actually look at his record throughout his career this isn't a newcastle thing he gets this everywhere he goes because he's a bad manager.
Is 7 wins in 38 games accurate? If so, that is appalling
@@ancelottiseyebrow5206 yeah in all competitions
@@ancelottiseyebrow5206 he went 2 wins in 21 games last season too.
Jordan would start argument with his own shadow
dònt understand your point
He is saying he could argue with anyone, even his own shadow for gods sake!
@@malmachine the man is just giving his opinion tho..isn't that what the show is about?
@@malmachine not rocket science 🤣🤣🤣
@@nicholasbaldwin4897 your missing the point completely I think. The commenter is just saying he could argue with his shadow. I don't think he should not give his opinion lol.
Keep in mind, it was the Spurs fans that started the chants.
Hope is probably the best journalist covering the club. His views are very much in line with 99.9% of supporters. Simon has spoken fairly well recently about NUFC given his historical opposition and derision towards the fanbase and new owners but he's wrong here. Bruce is the most protected manager I've ever seen from his media pals. If this was a foreign manager, guarantee he wouldn't get half these 'pundit experts' defending him.
FTM
@@holmas7 How's life in League One? Been enjoying the comedy series on Netflix 👊⬛⬜😂
He's not supposed to be in line with the fans, his job as a journalist is to report the facts and give a balanced view on things. He's been out for Bruce for years and tried his absolute best to undermine him and wrote false stories or grossly twisted ones. Made up Simon called him out like this.
@@holmas7 Fleetwood Town Marra
The way you guys defend Bruce is incredible, he’s a woeful manager
Everyone outside Newcastle can see you are at least 4 players short of what is needed to stay up. Results will not improve until the transfer window opens. It is simply a lack of quality.
Get Conte in 🤣🤣
All his media pals, along with Ashley’s mates have been intolerable through all of this… if it was a foreign manager they’d be shouting from the rooftops to sack him
In the real world, if you were a consistent failure, people would stop hiring you. In Football, not only do you keep getting hired, regardless. But you also get a nice pay off everytime
@@jtaylor9562 I agree with that, it's not just Bruce though, there's loads of managers on the merry-go-round, they make a bloody good living off it
Bruce almost killed my club, Aston Villa.
We didn’t like Bruce because his style of play and laziness at every club he has managed is beyond shocking, I would love to see any other fans take him at there clubs. Dark days
When Simon starts writing notes you know it’s going off
Quality
Who is Simon tailor ?
🧙🏽♀️
The fan base literally want a manager who can make the team win. Not struggle
He got Newcastle 12th and 13th place finishes how is that struggling. Newcastle fan’s expectations were ridiculously under Ashley and the fans are mad that Steve Bruce took a mid table team at best and kept them a mid table team.
@@charlieshorto6558 so smartarse, he got us 12th and 13th, and you’d be happy with that eh ? So you have no ambition to be better ? Just because we have that makes us delusional ? And please, please, please explain to me how, with additions to the squad do we get worse ? Even with the same squad you would expect a certain level would you not ? Hmmmmmmm, let me think, how about this for an answer…BAD MANAGEMENT, now kindly piss off 😁
@@charlieshorto6558 He's doing a great job at WBA now isn't he. He's consistent to say the least.
In future butt out of situations you will never understand. Cnut
@@jimboll6982 you seem like a rational person calling me a c**t just because I defended Steve Bruce’s job what he did at Newcastle. Get a life you absolute failure
Spezia are the only team in the top 5 leagues who have a worse defensive record this season than Newcastle
It was his choice to be put through that as you are calling it! He could have resigned, but the big payoff was more important. Bruce has probably earned more for sackings than any other manager.
i would think mourinho has that honour
The nonsense about Bruce reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George tries his best to get fired but ends up getting praised no matter what he does
Turns out Craig Hope was right. Steve Bruce was a lazy, amateurish manager who cared more for his self, his golfing and his stomach than he did training our players. Apology owed here.
Brucey for Man U .... good game good game
I hate this narrative that Newcastle fans have unrealistic expectations 🙄 we would be happy to be competitive and play decent football and Steve Bruce would never be able to do the job that's needed.
Did Rafa make you competitive?
@@fusion454 We WOULD be happy to be competitive and play decent football what's Rafa got to do with the statement I made about Bruce 🙄
@@fusion454 with a top half finish under rafa I would say yes
Simon calling out Craig's journalistic credit is laughable. Saying that Craig Hope is guilty of having pushed a narrative all the while he pushes the false narrative of the "expectations" and "demands" of Newcastle fans. No matter how many fans or journalists call in to correct him on this, he continues to bait the Newcastle fans
The likes of Craig Hope gave Newcastle fans an honest platform to speak which was so refreshing to listen to a journalist accurately echoing the hopes of fans without a dishonest agenda. Even Gary Neville listened to fans and gave an honest account of what Newcastle fans really want, and when he felt Bruce was being used as a human shield, he spoke out. I can respect that that sort of balanced approach. Simon on the other hand lacks consistent moral integrity and often slips up by showing his bitter, vindictive attitude towards Newcastle fans
Literally the only sensible comment on here 👌
@@nathanp1439 Thank you Nathan
@@nathanp1439 I’ll add another, Jordan is a self righteous prick !
Hope: "On day 1, I was with him. On day 2, I was against him"
He gave him a fair crack then! xD
7:10 Sinclair's reaction is hilarious
I can’t be the only person to be continually distracted by the dragon breathing down the mic ?! How is that allowed to happen ?’
Being relegated this season might turn out to be the best thing to happen. Have a deep cleanse and reset. Come back stronger
How anyone can trust the word of any reporter baffles me. Especially one who writes for that trash the daily fail
Says it all working for the DM, call him a journalist.
Loved that @craighope called out Bruce, and defended himself really well against Simon here
I love how Simon Jordan talks like he’s a successful football club owner , when he isn’t.
He has never said that.
Who is??
did palace go broke ad have a decent team yes , sustainability was his game. new castle are obviously a laughing stock to fans
Far more successful in life than you, i guarantee it!
hes said many time it wasnt great, he doesnt make out he was successful at Palace...
If he hadn't kept you up for 2 years you might not have gotten the takeover. Manchester United legend. Won more on his own than Newcastle as a club.
Clueless 🤦♂️
Well offer him a job after ole gets the sack then you can have another clueless legend ruining the legacy 😂
Jordon is wrong. Headline grabber. He was not good enough. Facts. Stop defending him. Go WELL brucey. Just not good. Go. Bye.
It's hardly 'seismic' news. More when not if.
he really was the worst manager, took to much time off, lazy. Simon says the reason no English managers are in the top three are because of lack of professionalism. a trait you can not attribute to Steve.
And he works for the daily mail 🙄
Only simon reads daily mail articles 😂
Craig is bang on the money here.
Here two years later, Newcastle have gone very well after giving a bright up and coming manager an opportunity with the fans fully backing the team in the stands while Bruce took West Brom from Playoff area to relegation area in the Championship so needless to say Craig Hope won this and Jordan lost it
I'd have him back at Birmingham city....he did ok for us..not the greatest manager but got us playing.....
As a bluenose also, I would adore this idea. Fantastic times, that first season in the prem in 02/03 after doing the double over Aston Villa. Memories ❤️
@@Critchy39 GREAT memories....K.R.O...
Villa are scum, hope they rot
@@johnyp2967 K.R.O...
This has aged well. What a load of tripe.Was awful at WBA too!
Well Steve Bruce has come away 8 million pounds richer and now he doesn’t have to deal with that toxic fan base....it’s a win win for Bruce
7 wins in 38 games
Stop blaming media and the 'Bruce the victim' nonsense! In any other era in football he'd have resigned. He held on to get a multi million pound pay out... which he didn't deserve.
Abject tactics and he lost dressing room last season. A fan of Newcastle would have left at that point. His performance on and off pitch didn't deserve the multi million pay off he'll get. He took the hate to get the cash, shameless but his choice. Simon is full of it when it comes to Bruce and NUFC fans.
No manager walks. He signed a contract so deserves to be paid. Same as players.
@W2L coz Bruce is the ONLY manager to get stick ? F**k me man, it’s been going on for f**kin eons ! Every sing damn manager over the years who has performed shite, and 7 wins out of 37 is SHITE, has gotten stick and abuse, it goes with the territory, if you expect the fans to sit back and say nothing whilst muttering under their breath then I think it’s you who are deluded, if it was your club would you stay silent ? And if you answer yes then you’re a liar !
Craig you pandered to the Minority of supporters who hated Bruce.
Alert! Someone who doesn't support Newcastle tells Newcastle reporter living in Newcastle how Newcastle fans feel, while disregarding poll saying 94% of Newcastle fans wanted him sacked.
7 wins in 10 months. 9 games in a row without a win. If that is not good enough reasons for the sack I do not know what is. I do not believe any other manager would have been given so much slack.
Newcastle put the Ty in Tyneside. Totally deluded.
yea they will never challenge for the top 4.
This is the man who walked out on Palace after managing them for 5 minutes, managed Villa & Birmingham and Newcastle & Sunderland, the man is a glutton for punishment.
Poor bugger bruce, deserves respect
For what? Being a nice guy?
@W2L of course not
Thankfully Bruce is now not involved with any English football club. football does not need his type.
Most footy fans are sick of Newcastle already now, relegation would be their just deserts.😂
Sick of us? Good👍
You’re going to hate us when we’re beating your shitty pauper clubs regularly then 😂
What’s funny is journalists who can’t play the sport have no real understanding of it but are happy to make out they do because they have a journalism degree very strange
I actually agree with everything Simon Jordan says apart from 1.....that it's media bias! Steve Bruce clearly was that awful and horrendous!
always trust a daily mail reporter !!!! oh wait..... like trusting a politician
The only thing you have to ask yourself about steve Bruce is if he fit to manage another premier league club and if the answer no he isn't fit to manage another club in the prem then why is he hailed as somebody that shouldn't be sacked?
Bruce to Brugge. Papers signed on Monday
This shines a light on what a plank Simon is
Critism is fair game. Personal abuse, dragging the manager’s family into it is totally out of bounds. Calling for someone to lose their job is crass.
They said last week he deserved the chance to continue themselves. I feel for Bruce the fans just hated him and whether we won or lost he couldn't get them onside. Ultimately the side was poor and that's how it ends
Steve Bruce failed because of Mike Ashley
So why did he fail at villa then ??
Simon put in his place 😂
I’d take Bruce at Chelsea….
Won't matter who they bring in, Newcastle are crap, have generally always been crap, I mean they had a few good years in the mid 90s and now every fan of the club thinks it should be that way always.
Whatever you say daft lad
Pundits squirming in their seats
Craig is spot on. Simon is wrong on this. He’s usually pretty self aware but not being able to recognise that he’s a Bruce apologist is laughable. He’s not a top six manager. Yes. But he’s not top 6 of the Championship. Steve Bruce is a bottom half Championship manager these days.
Steve Bruce got Newcastle to 12th last season, 20 points clear of relegation. What more do Newcastle fans want? He’s done a good job imo
I agree, I’m still wondering what they expected
Newcastle have won 7 out of their last 38 can I ask if your club had a manager with that record would u put him under scrutiny?
He finished 12th with Benitezs squad then spent 140 mil over 2 seasons and they’ve gone down the table
Er you do realise where they are NOW 🙄
Spot on Simon
I mean Steve Bruce such a nice man can see why they are defending Steve Bruce I mean such a nice guy a top bloke like ole at man United 🤣😂
Simon got blasted on this one, what a muppet.
Typical Newcastle view it was owners fault for fans behaviour for what he as a reporter encouraged.
Craig hope is the only journalist who has hit the nail on the head with his reporting. As A toon fan he literally hits every nail on the head. Jordan is a absolute clown. Literally only backs Bruce cos he’s mates with him. Trash pundit.
Before the buy out. Talksport and sky wouldn't have given this 5 minutes air time.
Newcastle fans are delusional and this Craig guy too 😂
If you ever think any other manager would have done a better job or even keep Newcastle in the prem you’re crazy
Rafa did that and he got way less than what Steve Bruce got.
Well, people like Craig Hope can be happy now that they helped torpedo a man's career.
He done that himself 🤣
Newcastle fans are strange! They hate Bruce but love Rafa they’ve the same prem records.
What on earth are you talking about when did Bruce ever win anything also Rafa has managed some of the best teams on the planet as Bruce has managed villa lol give your head a shake pal
Rafa inherited a poor squad and improved the players with clever coaching and actually made the club money on transfers in/out.... Bruce came in spent 140 adding to the same squad and now Newcastle are in another relegation battle,I don’t dislike Bruce but he’s a championship manager not premier league,just look at his record,relegation relegation relegation with various clubs
Tell us you’re clueless about what happened at Newcastle without telling us you’re clueless about what happened at Newcastle 🤦♂️
Interesting he never mentioned Eddie Howe on that list!
Bruce kept Newcastle in the division that’s a an achievement
Not really, 8th highest net spend during his time. Frankly, it's a miracle the club stayed up with statistically the worst PL win rate manager in history.
@@TheAlphaDingo who cares how much they spent, there team is valued at 17th in the premier League.
They are due for relegation.
@@sk00p silly argument. Our squad value is comparable to Brighton and they are 4th. Our squad is worth nearly 50m more than Brentford and they are top 10 as a newly promoted side. Make any excuses you like, the fact is Bruce is a poor manager, who can't coach his team, set up formations, play players in the right positions or develop and improve them. Potter and Frank show a good manager with a clear vision for their team can achieve great things. Bruce is a dinosaur and won't manage in the PL ever again.
Didn't you want Ashley gone because he didn't spend money... now Bruce because he spent loads.. make up your mind!
@@pjr7661 do some research. Ashley was a leech sucking the club dry and taking it backwards. A club should belong and represent it's local area or city. An owner should want to do the best for the club. Ashley wanted to do what's best for him - making money and getting free advertising. Fans, legends, managers, players, it didn't matter to him as he was only focused on his own personal greed.
As for Bruce, he was a puppet appointment. If you had billions of dollars, why would you entrust it to a man with no talent as a manager, or who can't figure out how best lineup, formation or team in his third season in charge. Like giving a Ferrari to a toddler, it would only end badly. The point is Bruce is useless and HAS BEEN BACKED. Too many uninformed clowns pretending to be experts reckon he hasn't been backed or given a fair chance or compare him to Rafa despite having over 100m of additional signings afforded to him.
Simon, why did the fans love Rafa Benitez?
Because he spoke truth to power ie he tried to get some control and direction into the club
I'm with Craig Hope.
That job is a poisoned chalice. God help whoever is next.
There was definitely an agenda as soon as Bruce got that role. Definitely.
Well done Craig Hope. A man who's job it was to attend every match and interview knows a lot more about the Bruce situation and his antics, than any of the general commentators of football
Hope is a prat but Jordan is constantly in the media he slags off, either spouting his right wing bile or just moaning
Arsenal should sack arteta ASAP
I am by no means a simon jordan fan but what he says about this guy is very true,he has never had a good word to say about steve bruce and has used his position to whip up the steve bruce out gang from the start.Newcastle fans make me laugh,what do they think anyone can do being given no money by ashley to buy any good players to push this team to anything other than a relegation battle with six to eight teams down there,it is crazy talk to think any person put in charge of this team could do any better,wake up for gods sake,you should be thanking this man for keeping you up for the last two seasons,and i hope that newcastle united get relegated at the end of this season,you so called fans should hang your heads in shame the way this guy was treated.
are they doing crosswords?
Drawing willies.
I'm and NUFC fan. I didn't want Bruce to fail, I would have loved him to succeed. I just knew that he would fail sooner or later because he is a bog average manager. This "the fans wanted him to fail" trope is complete and utter bs.
Average manager for an average club, what's the problem ??
Simon is so right. Thank you for your contribution.
Whats a tewitowy ?
Steve Bruce was a dinosaur and will always be, however much his buddies try to paint a different picture. The best thing them Villa fans did was represent him with a cabbage - truer depictions could not exist.
More deluded Newcastle fans I really hope your the richest team in the Championship next year. Its what you deserve.
Careful what you say lad, you might lose your bonce !
They shouldn’t fire him
It’s mad how people get paid to speak so much waffle, Steve Bruce was horrendous as a manager and is worse now than he was 10 years ago, proven by facts and statistics, he’s got Newcastle on relegation form, no wins in 8 but yet Newcastle fans are the worst ? And this is coming from a Sunderland fan who’s suffered his horrendous management before 😂😂
Jordan spouts some rubbish.
That’s why Simon is my guy
Newcastle have a problem in midfield and they need a ball joggler
Well done Craig 👏
You people need to understand that Simon is just playing devil's advocate.... If he just agreed with everyone, there would be no show!
End of the day. Steve is the winner 8 million pound pay off. Wow
It was obvious the role of Newcastle manager became too big for Steve Bruce once the owners came in but some Newcastle fans gave him way too much stick. He was employed by a non ambitious owner in Mike Ashley to simply keep them in the league and despite Newcastle fans obviously wanting more that was all Steve Bruce was employed to do and he did that. The lack of progress made was due to the lack of money he had to spend compared to teams around him and if you look at points tallys last season and the one before it was very similar if not better than Rafas. It wouldn't of hurt for Newcastle fans to give him the respect he deserves on his 1000th game and show some appreciation for Steve's work before they start this new era
7 in 37 and we defend this guy .......
Simon is such a breath of fresh air on talkSPORT. To hear someone push back with a sensible, logical, eloquent argument for a guest is so refreshing. 👏👏👏