I am wondering why Mali doesn't just "cut their losses" at this time? That region sounds like it is leagues more trouble then it is worth. Any resources in Azawad worth fighting over?
@@JackDrewitt I guess being able to claim all of the Mali Empires lands might be useful for a conqueror. But given the military fails at even holding half the country, seems like a pointless feature.
if they decide to give azawad independence, it'll lead to other rebellious ethnic groups to seek independence as well and eventually mali would end up becoming yugoslavia'd. same reason why spain doesnt wanna let go of catalonia
The government might be scared of a domino effect where other ethnic groups in the country are going to try the same thing in the near future. Furthermore losing the majority of your country to some rebels is a big humiliation for the government and the army.
Africa certainly deserves a lot more coverage. What goes on there is less directly globally influential, but what goes on in Africa certainly decides a lot of what can and cannot happen in this world.
The only reason the West doesn't cover it is that the West blames African people for their plight in destroying colonialism, therefore they think it's not important covering their wars, yet when a minor war happens in Ukraine which is a simply a border conflict of sovereignty, It gets covered because it's apart of Europe. And that is just the complete truth.
Lots of errors in this video. 1.) Fulani are a West African group that originated in Fouta Djallon highlands in Guinea but dispersed across the Sahel due to their nomadic traditions. 90% of Fulanis reside in West Africa from Senegal to Nigeria. They are not a "Central African" group that's indigenous to Darfur or Eritrea, as those are relatively associated with more recent Eastward migration. The Fulanis are just as West African culturally as the Bambaras and are closest related to the Server and Wolof of Senegal. 2.) The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter-skin". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status, however not for being "light skin" as you put it 3.) You left out that Tuaregs are still a minority (although quite visible) in the Azawad state. The Songhais are also an indigenous tribe in Northern Mali and they far outnumber the Tuaregs in numbers. Out of the three region that makes up Northern Mali, only Kidal has an absolute Tuareg majority.
Good comment. I have to add that there are some other factors that lead to resentment against Tuareg. 1. They are a partial matriarchy and their version of Islam is very moderate in many aspects. Men have to cover themselves (the male mouth is considered vulgar because cunnilingus.) A bride is not expected to be a virgin when getting married. A woman or the head of the family (also a women) usually has the final word in whom she marries. Female genital mutilation is forbidden and considered barbaric and vile (as it should be). They are opposed to aspects of the sharia and do not practise it. 2. Because of their tribal nature, they had a history of raiding other tribal groups. They belong to the groups that participated in the slave trade. They have some kind of caste system that allows for upward social mobility. Slaves were often integrated into the tribal structure, with their descendants eventually fully assimilated into the tribe. Of course the tribes they were often at war with also often had some of their people enslaved furthering resentment and hate. Some black-African tribes came to resent them. Others are on good terms with them. 3. Their nomadic culture and lifestyle often clashes with other tribes and groups. They are dependent on traversing the desert. Due to postcolonial boarders, this traversal is often hindered. To putt it blunt: They only care about the desert and they only want to live there. Their dream would be for all Tuareg across the Sahara be able to life their nomadic culture an lifestyle. Ok from this short and simplified summary, you can see why they have so much "enemies" and why they clash with many groups, tribes, ideologies. That some Tuareg have a lighter skin tone is a minor factor at best. And that's not even all of them some Tuareg have a dark skintone. I can still remember how surprised I was when I found out that they had teamed up with Jihadists in 2012. The video fails to mention that it was the Tuareg that ended this agreement and started to fight them, as soon as the Jihadists implemented the sharia in the territories they had occupied.
A question do u have any sources for this? Cause otherwise it ends up being you said this tldr said that that’s why it’s good for vids to include sources so if people disagree you can go well look at there sources
I actually think these nations breaking up would stabilize the region because those nations could finally sort out their other messes instead of continuing with more or less pointless wars. However, I lack the knowlegde about the region to make a qualified Statement about that.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 True. But we also have to consider that the conflics continued, especially in South Sudan and that both remain multiethnical states which is one of the main reasons for the instability. Neither state ever was a nation state. In short, yes, we had seperatism there, but not the kind that would solve the demographic issues of post-colonialsm.
You are probably a child if you think breaking up countries will lead to stability. These Sahel countries are unstable because of France, not because an irrelevant desert minority feels entitled to land.
In 3:38 you say the Fulani inhabit "Mali, Eritrea and Dafur" which is a very weird statement since the Fulani people are known to reside in almost all West African countries, but particularly Nigeria, Mali and Senegal, where their homeland is located. Eritrea and Dafur are on the other side of the continent so I have no idea how you got them confused. Cool video anyways
Fulani ethnic groups do stretch all the way across the sahel to Sudan/Darfur area, but you are right about their biggest numbers being in the west african countries of Mali, Niger/Nigeria and Senegal.
I lived in mali for 8 years. The Touaregs are good people. So are the Fulanis. I personally do not think this new state is going to do very well. They have zero industry and their territory is mostly desert. They should fight for more rights within Mali.
There are plenty of options for them in our modern era. They'll need foreign investments and foreign experts though, but mining and energy would be possible industries on which to build an economy. And then later on in the future if the violence dies down, there's always going to be the possibility of tourism.
I guess things are only going to get tougher for them as climate change gets worse. Soon we might see a refugee crisis of people living in the Sahara into the sahel and the sahel into the tropics.
For those asking why can't Mali simply give up Azawad! Azawad is rich in various minerals, including gold and uranium. There is also a huge potential of oil reserves in Taoudeni Basin in the north of Azawad, which is considered to be extremely unexplored.
@@jackholman5008 resources or not they've already got control over their economy so they wouldn't be completely cut off with mali if they left them alone
France was chassed away by the Malian gouvernement ; it wasn't a withdrawal. This war is actually more complex. The way you explain things is typically the view and version of France and western countries
Well ye the core of the show is very Euro-centric, cause they're all Europeans in Europe. Not saying your criticism isn't valid, but more so that that is the POV one should expect of the source.
@@captainalex157 i think that what he means is that some nuance might be necessary, as every story has two versions, and he probably thins this one as a little too biased
The former french colonial countries of West Africa might be better off as a federation where every major ethnic group has their own Autonomous state. The current countries don't work and being an autonomous part of a federal country can help the landlocked ethnic groups like the Taureg with trade and development. They already share common currencies (the West african and east african franc), they share a common history (french colonisation) and they share a common language (French) that they can use as a national language. It might not be perfect, but it's a better alternative than the current situation where you have all these poor unstable countries that keep neglecting minority groups. Furthermore ethnic groups don't have to fight their current country anymore if they are an autonomous state within a west african federation. East africa is trying to make an East african federation. West Africa could try something similair. So basically they should do something like India where you have autonomous states with multiple ethnicities and languages within one federal state.
There’s a lot of ethnic people in Western Africa. They’d have to work out how to share resources, and a political government that can keep then together and prevent tribal/ethnic warfare
In an ideal world, sure. In reality, too many powerful people benefit from current states for them to do the right thing for the masses. Africa screwed itself by keeping the colonial borders instead of finding the least bloody way to give every ethnicity self-government, and there will be many more wars to come for that reason. There is also no reason why this should be limited to the former French colonial empire in Africa. Ethnicities commonly cross borders between former French, British and Portuguese colonies. The best thing that can happen to Africa is adopting one common African language (maybe Swahili) so they can carry out your plan, but for the whole of sub-Saharan Africa rather than just the former French colonies.
Umm India is a Union and not a Federation. American states have much much more freedom from Washington than Indian states have from New Delhi. India really doesn't have separate ethnicities like Africa. Marathis Punjabis Bengalis Tamils Kannadigas etc can't really be called separate ethnicities because their languages and cultures are very similar and they all emerge from a common Vedic Sanskritic Hindu ancient India and India was previously united many times under the Mauryans Guptas Delhi Sultanate Mughals before the British came along whereas groups like the Tuareg don't share a common history with other ethnic groups and they were never united in history before the French Empire.
Their numbers in Sudan is very small compared to other regions, which border Mali/Azawad. Was just odd to mention them. Why not also mention Fulani in France and USA and KSA. And there is none in Eritrea.
I am a Tuareg from north Mali (Azawad), who fortunately was born and lived abroad. Since the independence of Mali in 1960, the government has done nothing to improve the living standards of the northern regions. There are no roads, hospitals, running water or electricity. Moreover, during the various revolutions undertaken by the Tuareg people , the Malian army and allied ethnic militias have committed many massacres against civilian Tuaregs. Thus, the Tuareg people have no choice, but to seek independence from this failed state and be on their own!
@@petiteexplication6249 morocco never owned western sahara before the years leading up to colonisation or even the start where europeans started to colonise africa, the claims that moroccan government says are just shit, there are only **three** empires that owned western sahara fully plus it was centuries ago, making theirs claims weak and ineffective, infact mauritania has more chance of grabbing the territory then morocco, we sahrawis were never moroccans, the king is not ours
@@PugkinSoup there are still some parts where the Polisario controlls, morocco did attempt to grab the whole region but failed, they constructed the berm
@@Gawarasmi thats why when the spanish colonized it in 1884 the sultan of the time sent troops to laiyoune the resistance was heavily funded by the sultan up until his death when his 15yo kid took over and we were doomed
@@PakistanZindabad19828 No Pashtun is a proud Pakistani. Infact there is nothing to be proud of as a Pakistani. You are an Ethnic indian who is claiming fake Pashtun ancestry
The only thing that nebula lacks is a comment section for exclusives, just to see the reactions and add on more info, but is nice to get the extra content anyways
Well done for making this video on a topic few people are aware of. I would have preferred the video made reference to Niger. The instability in Mali is indirectly caused by French nuclear policy in Niger. The Uranium mine there has no safety regulations, causing cancer and infant mortality on a massive scale for humans and mammals such as livestock across the entire region. For this reason it is no longer possible to live as a nomadic herder there, so the Tuareg people have instead migrated to other areas, creating the need for the MNLA as protection for them.
I had to smile at the cosmic irony that the Tuareg people are regularly discriminated against because of their lighter skin tone. A reminder of all how relatively subjective human tribal mentality is.
discrimination is in its core about the us vs them mentality. any kind of difference could spark it if one's not careful... or perhaps if one is petty enough.
It's usually the other way round because lighter skin generally means a person spends more time indoors, and therefore is likely to be richer and have higher status. That's the case in many countries in Asia and Africa.
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
Touareg in Mali are completely cut off all circles of influence, and the Touareg Region are seen as a place where corrupt politicians can enrich themselves without consequences. In Niger on the other side they are the economic elite, its the touareg who runs the supermarkets, that import whatever it needs and even run factories. Thus, there is less need for independence there. We should rethink the idea of 'unchangable borders' and rather see new countries emerge who can serve their population.
I feel like the whole idea that African nations need to be divided along ethnic lines to survive is ridiculous and is used to hide something more serious. The biggest empire in African history, the songhai empire and Kanem bornu had many diverse ethnic groups and nobody waged war to create nationalist states then so why now?
Idk where you got your info from.... I’m Malian and I can tell you that touaregs that integrate themselves in the remaining Malian population are doing well gaining educations and not discriminated against... it only seems that way because the mind narrowed touaregs living up North play victims! I have never seen them being discriminated against or even being looked down on AT ALL in Mali
The table was turned, it happened in 15th century, far before the enslavement of West African tribes. And do you know that even West African Kings were involved in slave trade? Back then, there was no Black power or Black nationalism, they were either royals or peasants.
@@msbhicks8358 natural resource economies often struggle and get corrupt over time. If they can somehow diversify under a good leader then they will do well
@@johnseppethe2nd2 yeah it's main issue is the possibility of military juntas coming to power, for it to be able to stay away from that they'd need international assistance
Great video! One thing, though. I think you misspoke when you mentioned that the brief peace ended in "2017." pretty sure you meant to say "2007" there. Otherwise, a very interesting and informative video. Seems we can't stop living in interesting times these days.
The arrogance of the people arguing for the status quo because they don't want conflict when the status quo is the reason for continual conflict is baffling, and it's weird how that's how most people come to view the situation. You, reading this, are probably from a country that once had to fight brutal wars for your own independence. And the people who fought are now most likely considered heroes. What makes you so superior to say the Tuaregs, the Kurds or even the Catalonians?
The problem in Africa is the possibility of a domino effect, once an ethnic group is independent who would sto the other ethnicities to do the same. The majority of African states are not made by a dominant ethnic group. Last point is that a lot of modern states (China, Germany, USA...) didn’t have an homogeneous population, it was also actions made by the government to unified the nations
In iraq (iraqi specking here) the kurds have massive autuonomy in thier regions and even in most of the cities they have majority on they dont even raise the iraqi flag, the kurds didnt and dont need to fight in iraq to get there eventual indpendint with a simple an free refrundom they will be a new state but sadly filled with politcal dynisties and oil based economy (the same things that destrioed iraq) we still have a state of union (iraq is a fedral union country stated by the constution) and i think they only need 20 more years to fully grasp the kurdish dream.
@@aliahmedwadi5849 Let's hope so. Iraqi Kurdistan has been the most peaceful part of Iraq for a long time. It has had the least terrorism, the lowest crime rates, and the best economy of any region in Iraq. They truly deserve to be recognized. You say the Kurds in Iraq don't need to fight, but that's because they already did. They already fought. They have complete military control, and have had so from before the American invasion. America didn't send a single soldier into Kurdistan, because the Kurds already had full control over it. I have a lot of respect for the Kurds. Here in Norway I've met and befriended several Kurds, and they've always been warm and friendly. Growing up in a part of Norway with a lot of immigration I've known so many Middle-Eastern migrants who had nothing but bitter hatred for Norway, claiming the girls were whores, that the food was awful, that our society was rotten, refusing to get local friends. But Kurds and Iranians, both, have been completely opposite. They get local friends, are respectful and very warm and open. Lovely people, both of them. I feel sorry they have to be legally a part of a country full of terrorism, corruption and sectarian hatred.
@@funghi2606 lol what the US was historically dominated by anglo-Saxons. The Han dominate China and the Prussians created Germany. We should let africa create it own ethic borders to put an end to this fighting
There's one option which wasn't mentioned regarding post-colonial states: unity. Instead of accepting the colonial borders French West Africa should have tried to form a united bloc, even if places with more developed national identities like Algeria and Morocco opted out. A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression could have made a functioning nation large enough that most ethnic groups would be completely inside it, so representation could be more fluid and a domestic process for ethnic representation could be set up. Of course such a large nation would be fairly powerful, so I'm guessing France wasn't going to be supportive of that idea...
Yeah so you want an even bigger country with more more different ethnic groups and even bigger territory to cover and you think that it would be better and not worse? Just look at the Democratic republic of the congo and how hard it is for the government in Kinshasa to rule effectively over the eastern part of the nation. It would be an absolute mess.
"A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression" Fun fact: generally such ethnic groups have also a shared experience of oppressing each other, which makes this idea for smaller groups even less tempting than just keeping former colonial power.
I really don’t understand why countries don’t just give independence to troublesome regions who ask for it. It solves the problem and is recognized in the un charter
You cant go giving everyone what they want. Eg- If theres a problem in your body(country) then you should better focus on curing it rather cutting it off and let it manage things on it own.
I believe the Tuareg should have their own sovereign Amazigh state. But Azawad in Mali has several problems. Firstly, not all peoples in the northern portion of Mali are Tuareg. Many peoples, especially the Songhay have their homelands along the Niger river. If Azawad became independent with the 2012 borders, it would still be a powder keg of ethnic strife. Ideally, the new state should have its borders north of the Niger river region, centered around Kidal. This would encompass primarily the Tuareg homeland, but the State would have a lot of struggles, for the land is mostly desert remote, and unproductive. The Tuareg could have the stability and National will to reach some creative solutions, and could do well living their traditional lifestyle without sacrificing much for economic growth, like Bhutan. But it would be difficult. But if it succeeds, and amazing that would be, the Tuaregs of Niger, Algeria and Lybia should join their regions in making a proper pan-Tuareg Azawad. This century may be the time for the self-determination of peoples in Africa. Let’s hope Peace is maintained during the process.
Exactly! As a Niger Songhai, these were my thoughts also. The Songhai population in Northern Mali is greater than the Tuaregs also. Secondly, the important cities in northern Mali are also presently Songhai dominated including historical Tuareg city like Timbuktu. This would be messy if it happens
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
@@dawud7864rassure toi on ne leurs cédera jamais rien ! Ils ont eut le dessus en 2012 grâce à la France mais ça c’est fini ! On va les matter comme on l’a toujours fait. Il s’agit uniquement des ifogas les kidalois la majorité des touaregs aspirent à la paix
This scenario is extremely unlikely. Most of the Tuaregs are in Niger, and I doubt Niger will tolerate a breakaway republic. As for the Tuaregs in Mali they are too few and they lack the ability to threaten the South anymore. Mali is buying a lot of helos and weapons from the Russians and Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians. I can see them start to use the U.S. strategy in Vietnam, by indiscriminately attacking ethnic groups that produce jihadis, such as the Fulani and Tuaregs. Mali will certainly descend into a full civil war eventually, but the Tuaregs don't have a chance of winning.
"Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians" --> :o How is this effective, they're basically being terrorists aside the terrorists, and all it's gonna do is create more resentment...
@@ericjohnson7234 It is possible that Mali could get outside help, but so far, it has been very few. Considering that Europe does not want to take part in Mali due to their use of Russian weapons, I have some doubts that Mali could get an amount of outside help.
Tuaregs aren't even the majority of "Azawad" the Songhay are who they have a history of enslaving. Second the Songhay actually had MORE control over northern Mali than the Tuaregs had who were just nomads for most their history. Tuaregs never created a Songhay empire. The region of northern Mali was always dominated by West Africans. Heck archology shows that northern Mali and even Mauritania was inhabited by West Africans during the green sahara until nomadic Berbers came from further north. And no northern Mali is NEVER succeeding not just because Songhay are the majority but because of resources and with Russian weapons the Mali govt has been making more gains. Talks of Northern Mali impendence is a pipe dream. And I find this "boohoo" victim mentality from their Berber cousins in other North African countries to be funny when North Africans constantly ABUSE Black Africans. If anything the Tuaregs should share this same energy with Algeria. lol.
Did you make a mistake when you described the locations of the Fulani people? You said they were found in Eritrea which is on the east coast of Africa next to Ethiopia.
There is another reason why the Tuaregs so deeply resent being under Malian rule: a general anti-West African sentiment (not just against Mali but even against Niger, Burkina Faso, etc). Tuaregs' North African background is connected with those North African nations (Tuaregs live mainly in Morocco, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria), and on their minds, these nations (mostly Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria) represent more successful civilisations and Berber ties. West Africans are seen by Tuaregs as uncivilised and backward compared to those of Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria, thus this became the core of racism and rebellion. And while these North African nations did not support any Tuareg rebellions, they secretly sympathise with them.
Right! If there’s anyone being discriminated against it’s the rest of the Malian population who are seen as civilized. I haven’t seen any touaregs being disrespected or even looked down at after everything they’ve done in the North of Mali.
Some Tuaregs are very very dark.Much darker than most people in West Africa. There are a lot of tribes lighter than them so their complexion is not why they are discriminated against t
Great video, but you guys might want to slow down a bit just to make sure your info and script is consistent and accurate. Saying and writing 2017 when I'm pretty sure you meant 2007 is pretty bad, and you seem to have issues like this a lot. I appreciate the amount of research you all put into these videos, but maybe take a little more time to check them over before you release them.
if the Nigerians could contain Boko haram and prevent the creation of an Islamic state in North-eastern Nigeria then we have every reason to believe that Mali will prevail and overcome the tuaregs
Everyone would be better off if Azawad is recognised and anchored by a physical border like the river. Then Azawad can focus on dealing with the extremists with aid.
I’m Malian Songhai and I’m fully AGAINST the independence of the Azawad.. their barbaric behaviour in Northern Mali is absolutely Recking their cause... I mean raping women and slaughtering civilians are just the tip of the iceberg! Mali will NEVER give them what they want after such savagery!!
I think that if the country of Azawad was created that it would not do well because they have no natural resources to rely on. The area is 99% desert. Maybe it would be best if they were still part of Mali but self-governing and mostly independent.
being part of mali has been tried for decades. hasn't and will not work. for all eternity the place will be in continuous conflict. Partition is the only solution
The Kurds of Africa, I'm ashamed the EU didn't recognize Azawad. They even practiced a more moderate version of Islam Turkey-style? Please let's have more of that rather than civil war and heightened extremism
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
@@madoukebe4491, but the current junta in Mali is only accepting Russian/Wagner troops. And given their performance in Ukraine, Syria, and the CAR 🇨🇫 (failure and/or war crimes), it’s doubtful they’d be helpful.
@@christianbolisca1493 The Sahelian authorities have appealed to Russia because France has allied itself with the rebel armed groups and refuses to work with local weapons
Good coverage, but I recommend you work on your pronunciation of the names of groups, languages, etc. It shows more respect to ensure the pronunciation is accurate.
@TLDRNewsGlobal from my understanding you should really call pre/non-arab North African people Amazigh. It's the name they prefer as Berber was given to them by outsiders who saw them as different and therefore barbarians.
@Katherine Scoot While Amazigh may be a more suitable name, in colloquial English, Berber is better recognized by sources such as Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. TLDR using the name Amazigh could create unnecessary confusion, especially given TLDR's goal of making news simple.
@@been. I feel that's a bit of a cop out justification, I can understand why you've said that though. To me, it would have taken very little effort to say something in the video like "the Amazigh people, also more commonly incorrectly known as Berbers". This would have been more accurate and given more agency to the people being discussed. It could have also made some people interested in finding out why these different names are used and to learn about the history of oppression.
Depends if the country is the result of a Union between countries, they turn out much better like the UAE, but when the countries are the byproduct of a civil war or a split they immediately turn into a war infested hell holes. I don't see how Anzawa can avoid turning into another South Sudan, specially with the developed world not been in a possition to grant aid.
Tomorrow is the first round of Colombia's presidential election. These elections have been the most tense ones in decades in the country, and they may represent a shift in the country's ideology.
I'd rather see Somaliland be recognized as an independent country. It is an amazing success story in that part of the world and is nothing like the failed state of Somalia.
We need a UN of Catalunya, Tibet, Azawad, Kabylia, Kurdistan, Taiwan, Ingushia, Western Sahara, Hong Kong, Balochistan, Somaliland, Tamil Eelam, East Turkestan, Chechnya, Southern Mongolia, Scotland, Cantonia, Basques, Tatarstan, Karen State etc...
Correction please Fulani are not indigenous in east Africa as you mentioned ( Eritrea 🇪🇷 and Darfur Sudan 🇸🇩) but rather to the west Africa as Niger Guinea and Burkina Faso.
Weren't the borders in Africa made with instability in mind? The fear of the former colonial countries that Africa will be powerful and therefore unable to exploit.
Yes, but the only ones that can change it(the African elites) benefit from the current system even more than the West and east Asia. So they want it to stay.
Well yeah these are colonial boarders, not really meant to be national boarders but for UK and France to redraw the lines they'd have had to remove all the current local leaders and reshuffle them as one, basically meaning uk and france would have ended up declaring war on 80% of Africa.
@@003mohamud probably not with the USSR and USA as the new superpowers. Both very anti colonial. Like the suez crisis. any honestly it would just be too much cost in money and manpower, especially for the end goal of losing both empires in one go.
The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter skinned". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status and nomadic lifestyle, however not for being "light skin" as you put it
a. “Berber” is a derogatory term created by Europeans b. The French military did not leave Mali of their own choosing, they were kicked out of the country by the Malian government; Macron said they were withdrawing to try and save face.
"South america is surprisingly peaceful at the moment" Not surprising when most of the population is centered around the coastline and the interior is uninhabitable due to extreme geography.
Ok so from my understanding Azawad (cool name btw) should be independent. They have been historically oppressed and the Mali government doesn’t seem to take care of them. I’m not sure if they are still nomadic but if they do I hope they stay that way if Asaward becomes independent. I would love to see what a government would look like for nomads. I think the french should step in to help Asaward. They caused this mess and they should at least attempt to help fix it.
Have you been spleeping for the past 8 years ? France tried to help against djihadist by sending troops and only gets hate and accusation of neocolonialism in return. The best course of action for France is to stay out of this.
Well you have a terrible understanding. The tuareg have been the ones who historically oppress other groups via slavery. There won't be an Azawad because most people in that region do not have any loyalty towards a fake nation like Azawad. The French are the reason why west Africa is struggling so much in the first place, so bringing them in will be a nightmare of violence and repression.
They have a point, redrawing the borders will still cause endless fighting, but it would also mean that they are going to fight amongst themselves either way
A lot of African countries celebrate their independence as a national day. Yet they combat liberation movements as the colonialist powers opressed them before and rally around an anti-independance principle. I don't know what to make of that.
Imagine China conquering all of America, Canada and Mexico and then letting them have their independence again, but redrawing the borders so that Washington is in Canada and Texas is in Mexico. That's what France did to Africa. It was done specifically to create as much instability as possible.
it wasnt done to intentionally to cause as much instability as possibly its just the way they ran the colonies already basically had these borders and when they were leaving they couldn't give less of a shit about how many Africans died because of it since it would be expensive to invest in to actual infrastructure and democratic governments and they where still very racist
Even if we try to undue what the French did I think the tension are so bad and their are much hate among the ethnic groups That its nearly impossible to “fix” it
I suggest TLDR News Global would make a video about the Pamaris in Tajikistan. They are the minority in the country, and heavily oppressed by the central government in Dushanbe.
@@Katkayz there's a lot more than 1 conflict in Africa though, they're currently in high tensions so if any new countries are made in Africa it'll basically be a continental wide fracture
@@ilovecakecanihaveapiece mention which African countries are at war , also isn’t the Middle East very volatile? And asia in general ? And you are telling me Europe is Always peaceful . Didn’t the British and the French have a 100 year war?
@@Katkayz Ethiopia is in a civil war, Morocco has border arguments, Somalia is also having to deal with separatists, and Libya has been in a civil war for a long time, C.A.R. has too, Senegal, the Gambia, Nigeria, and Cameroon also have either threatened annexation of a portion of the other country or aided a rebel group in the other country.
@@Katkayz I never said that Europe was always peaceful, I'm saying that at this moment, Africa has a ton of wars, meanwhile every other continent has at most 2, and even that is a stretch since most only have 1 as well
It is comedic that anyone would insinuate the *Tuareg*, who uphold a racial caste hierarchy in their own society with "Blacks" at the bottom, participate in the modern slave trade, and have committed targeted atrocities against "black africans" in Timbuktu and Gao are "discriminated against due to their lighter skin". Stick to reporting what you know.
Its interesting how even though the map shows a huge chunck of Algeria being inhabitanted by Tuaregs, in reality its the least populated by them, as the majority apparently lives in Niger.
I tried to launch a business in South Africa once and it was as FUBA as it could be. Westerners cry racism at any nonsense out there. Africa, tho, is a real racism in its rawest form. The kind of racism we outsider can't understand. I can't tell tribes apart and often mix my team, which is considered inclusive but actually a powder keg in Africa. They can be best friends, but when one tribe hits the other outside of the team, tension will flare in the team. The only thing they all will do is to blame foreigner, me at that point, to be the cause of all difficulties. That's why I cut my lost after 6 months or so. It may be controversial, but I think Africa has to accept that tribalism or racism or whatever they have in their culture and make policies in respond to that. They cannot abolish racism nor slavery in there at this point. It's too deep. Better make it less zhitty. With fewer coup, fewer ethnic fights, economic situation should improve and with it education. Then you can start making your culture less zhit. As it is now, it's a necessary evil.
South Africa ≠ Africa. Talking about racism when you can't even differentiate between African countries is pure irony. Maybe it was all for the best anyway
Will you guys stop talking like Africa = country? Only because you made experience does not mean all countries are like this. The issues you experienced is only because politics and bureaucracy are a mess in South Africa, partially caused by racism going in both directions and even against their own.
They can keep denying it as they always do. I didn't lump South Africa as the entire Africa. One doesn't simply decide to start a business in the place they have zero idea about. Before I decided on that venture, I was doing contract works in Somalia and a few other countries in Africa. All suffer from similar issues, with a different mix of insurgency and freedom fighters. I chose South Africa because it has potential compare to the rest, and I wasn't doing mining nor try to extract resources from the locals. If it was purely for profit, I'd just go to China at that point. I decided on that because I've seen Africa and feel they have potential. They just need a starting investment. Oh, boi, how wrong I was. They need more than that. It's a lot Ng way to go. But if they do it right, they can take advantage of 2022 - 2023 and make their way to the world stage for real. They just have to work with their issues.
@@jarnMod No one is denying racism in any part of the world. It exists everywhere, even against their own (i.e. regional racism). Unfortunately, you picked a country with very messy bureaucracy. Maybe try it out with Ruwanda, Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Mauritius or Seychelles. Doing buisness is possible, you just need to look where. Have you checked out the global buisness rate index? The problem here is that authorities in charge are least likely willing to let their population receive better oppertunities so they themselves dont get replaced by the locals. Or they keep investments for themselves. If the people are poor, they dont get good education, get continuesly fed with negative things and misinformation and keep supporting the corrupt authorities.
Should I notice that Tuaregs never rebelled against North African nations despite their presence here? From what I believe, the North Africans appear sympathetic to them even when they don't appreciate their separatism and due to anti-Black racism by North Africans.
"From what I believe, the North Africans appear sympathetic to them even when they don't appreciate their separatism and due to anti-Black racism by North Africans." American spotted.
Maybe it's a good idea to read your script before filming. An uprising in 2017 ended with a peace deal in 2009 and a Central African group of people living in Mali, Eritrea and Darfur??? You make incredible videos about a wide variety of topics but pumping out more is not always better. Take time to check and be correct even if it cuts the quantity of videos.
Really annoyed by the snobbish french claiming some sort of moral highground whilst they had a major part in destorying the middle east and africa. same goes for britain
imo Africa needs ethnic boarders rather than colonial boarders. There would still be lots of war, but stability within countries would increase since there'd be less racial abuse. ... people would just end up attempting to genocide. Which I also am not a fan of
Bro Africa has like 500 different ethnicities a lot of them overlap with each other, have a history of high tensions with each other, and a lot of them have a deep-rooted tribal mentality. Unless you redraw the borders to include people from the same ethnic linguistic and religious groups, all it's going to do is just start making a big battle royale. Even with that they're still probably going to be a million things that could go wrong, so in reality I don't think it matters if its ethnic Borders or Colonial borders. I think what most of these countries need is first a stabilizing Force, whether it's a strong leader or a constitution that brings people together in the belief of unity, and two the people themselves letting go of the past and wanting to build a better future. Will ethnic borders be a lot easier than Colonial borders yes but a million things can go wrong and then everything just hits the fan. But I do agree with you that I am against genocide
@@reygonzalez4719 Totally agree. The continent is also swarming with power hungry dictators, that makes everything worse. Also lots of countries are increasingly going into dept to China.......
@@Darium147 cool but there's still big problems with that like who's going to be in charge, how are you going to group the ethnicities together, what is the common language, is their religious tolerance, how you going to end old feuds. All these problems cannot be answered by just redrawing the borders because they'll just have the same problems as the current borders. The overarching problem with African countries is the instability that they have once you're able to stabilize the country that's when problems start getting resolved.
Here's the real story about the problem in North Mali. mali discovered oil in it's territory and made deals with an Australian, an Italian and an Algerian company to produce their oil. France didn't like it (they wanted their share) and decided to support a separatist ethnic movement in the North. they succeeded in taking over the territory! however, soon after that "radical" movements appeared and very quickly took all the territory from those French supported separatist. then France called all it's alliance in Europe and NATO to fight those extremist groups.
I am wondering why Mali doesn't just "cut their losses" at this time?
That region sounds like it is leagues more trouble then it is worth.
Any resources in Azawad worth fighting over?
Historically it was part of the mali empire and contains the ancient city of timbuktu
@@JackDrewitt So this is only about being able to claim the name? Or are the goldmines still active and relevant?
@@JackDrewitt I guess being able to claim all of the Mali Empires lands might be useful for a conqueror. But given the military fails at even holding half the country, seems like a pointless feature.
if they decide to give azawad independence, it'll lead to other rebellious ethnic groups to seek independence as well and eventually mali would end up becoming yugoslavia'd. same reason why spain doesnt wanna let go of catalonia
The government might be scared of a domino effect where other ethnic groups in the country are going to try the same thing in the near future. Furthermore losing the majority of your country to some rebels is a big humiliation for the government and the army.
Africa certainly deserves a lot more coverage. What goes on there is less directly globally influential, but what goes on in Africa certainly decides a lot of what can and cannot happen in this world.
The only reason the West doesn't cover it is that the West blames African people for their plight in destroying colonialism, therefore they think it's not important covering their wars, yet when a minor war happens in Ukraine which is a simply a border conflict of sovereignty, It gets covered because it's apart of Europe. And that is just the complete truth.
Yup, people forget how influential Africa will be when it gets it feet
Azawad is the Mauritanian and Tuareg parts of Mali
Lots of errors in this video. 1.) Fulani are a West African group that originated in Fouta Djallon highlands in Guinea but dispersed across the Sahel due to their nomadic traditions. 90% of Fulanis reside in West Africa from Senegal to Nigeria. They are not a "Central African" group that's indigenous to Darfur or Eritrea, as those are relatively associated with more recent Eastward migration. The Fulanis are just as West African culturally as the Bambaras and are closest related to the Server and Wolof of Senegal.
2.) The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter-skin". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status, however not for being "light skin" as you put it
3.) You left out that Tuaregs are still a minority (although quite visible) in the Azawad state. The Songhais are also an indigenous tribe in Northern Mali and they far outnumber the Tuaregs in numbers. Out of the three region that makes up Northern Mali, only Kidal has an absolute Tuareg majority.
Good comments 👍
Thank you very much
More informative than the video itself. Excellent comment !
Good comment. I have to add that there are some other factors that lead to resentment against Tuareg.
1. They are a partial matriarchy and their version of Islam is very moderate in many aspects. Men have to cover themselves (the male mouth is considered vulgar because cunnilingus.) A bride is not expected to be a virgin when getting married.
A woman or the head of the family (also a women) usually has the final word in whom she marries.
Female genital mutilation is forbidden and considered barbaric and vile (as it should be). They are opposed to aspects of the sharia and do not practise it.
2. Because of their tribal nature, they had a history of raiding other tribal groups. They belong to the groups that participated in the slave trade. They have some kind of caste system that allows for upward social mobility. Slaves were often integrated into the tribal structure, with their descendants eventually fully assimilated into the tribe. Of course the tribes they were often at war with also often had some of their people enslaved furthering resentment and hate. Some black-African tribes came to resent them. Others are on good terms with them.
3. Their nomadic culture and lifestyle often clashes with other tribes and groups. They are dependent on traversing the desert.
Due to postcolonial boarders, this traversal is often hindered. To putt it blunt: They only care about the desert and they only want to live there. Their dream would be for all Tuareg across the Sahara be able to life their nomadic culture an lifestyle.
Ok from this short and simplified summary, you can see why they have so much "enemies" and why they clash with many groups, tribes, ideologies. That some Tuareg have a lighter skin tone is a minor factor at best. And that's not even all
of them some Tuareg have a dark skintone.
I can still remember how surprised I was when I found out that they had teamed up with Jihadists
in 2012. The video fails to mention that it was the Tuareg that ended this agreement and started to fight them, as soon as the
Jihadists implemented the sharia in the territories they had occupied.
A question do u have any sources for this? Cause otherwise it ends up being you said this tldr said that that’s why it’s good for vids to include sources so if people disagree you can go well look at there sources
Mali has a population of 19 million. 700,000 are Tuareg.
Tuareg Are owning the desert
I actually think these nations breaking up would stabilize the region because those nations could finally sort out their other messes instead of continuing with more or less pointless wars. However, I lack the knowlegde about the region to make a qualified Statement about that.
That's not quite what happened with Sudan and South Sudan, they both remain shitholes.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 True. But we also have to consider that the conflics continued, especially in South Sudan and that both remain multiethnical states which is one of the main reasons for the instability. Neither state ever was a nation state.
In short, yes, we had seperatism there, but not the kind that would solve the demographic issues of post-colonialsm.
Until these countries aren't satisfied with their borders and try to redraw them again and again...
You are probably a child if you think breaking up countries will lead to stability. These Sahel countries are unstable because of France, not because an irrelevant desert minority feels entitled to land.
@@Bayard1503how many times were german borders redrawn?
In 3:38 you say the Fulani inhabit "Mali, Eritrea and Dafur" which is a very weird statement since the Fulani people are known to reside in almost all West African countries, but particularly Nigeria, Mali and Senegal, where their homeland is located. Eritrea and Dafur are on the other side of the continent so I have no idea how you got them confused. Cool video anyways
Im pretty sure the fur peopel are from Darfur
To make it worse he said they're from Central Africa.
Fulani ethnic groups do stretch all the way across the sahel to Sudan/Darfur area, but you are right about their biggest numbers being in the west african countries of Mali, Niger/Nigeria and Senegal.
These are the videos I subscribed to the Global channel for! A topic I knew little about, which is actually very important! Thank you for that!
I lived in mali for 8 years. The Touaregs are good people. So are the Fulanis. I personally do not think this new state is going to do very well. They have zero industry and their territory is mostly desert. They should fight for more rights within Mali.
There are plenty of options for them in our modern era. They'll need foreign investments and foreign experts though, but mining and energy would be possible industries on which to build an economy. And then later on in the future if the violence dies down, there's always going to be the possibility of tourism.
I guess things are only going to get tougher for them as climate change gets worse. Soon we might see a refugee crisis of people living in the Sahara into the sahel and the sahel into the tropics.
the only way theyre gonna survive is if they somehow find oil or valuable resource within that vast desert.
"They should fight for more rights within Mali." Which is what the Tuaregs have been doing for many years.
@@theamici landlocked nation and mostly desert is the worst place to invest not mention about terrorism
For those asking why can't Mali simply give up Azawad! Azawad is rich in various minerals, including gold and uranium. There is also a huge potential of oil reserves in Taoudeni Basin in the north of Azawad, which is considered to be extremely unexplored.
So the exact same reason why France won't leave Mali alone too
@@jackholman5008 resources or not they've already got control over their economy so they wouldn't be completely cut off with mali if they left them alone
It's because Mali is black and tuareg are not.... Why would indigenous Africans give land to slavers?
France was chassed away by the Malian gouvernement ; it wasn't a withdrawal.
This war is actually more complex. The way you explain things is typically the view and version of France and western countries
and i bet your view is totally objective Youssouf.
Well ye the core of the show is very Euro-centric, cause they're all Europeans in Europe. Not saying your criticism isn't valid, but more so that that is the POV one should expect of the source.
@@captainalex157 i think that what he means is that some nuance might be necessary, as every story has two versions, and he probably thins this one as a little too biased
Why would france tell a story where they lose?
@@irohabestwaifu4651 why would france tell a story where they lose tho?
The former french colonial countries of West Africa might be better off as a federation where every major ethnic group has their own Autonomous state. The current countries don't work and being an autonomous part of a federal country can help the landlocked ethnic groups like the Taureg with trade and development.
They already share common currencies (the West african and east african franc), they share a common history (french colonisation) and they share a common language (French) that they can use as a national language.
It might not be perfect, but it's a better alternative than the current situation where you have all these poor unstable countries that keep neglecting minority groups. Furthermore ethnic groups don't have to fight their current country anymore if they are an autonomous state within a west african federation.
East africa is trying to make an East african federation. West Africa could try something similair. So basically they should do something like India where you have autonomous states with multiple ethnicities and languages within one federal state.
It exists.
Its called Ecowas.
Its just progressing slowly, given the clusterfuck that is the region.
There’s a lot of ethnic people in Western Africa. They’d have to work out how to share resources, and a political government that can keep then together and prevent tribal/ethnic warfare
In an ideal world, sure. In reality, too many powerful people benefit from current states for them to do the right thing for the masses. Africa screwed itself by keeping the colonial borders instead of finding the least bloody way to give every ethnicity self-government, and there will be many more wars to come for that reason.
There is also no reason why this should be limited to the former French colonial empire in Africa. Ethnicities commonly cross borders between former French, British and Portuguese colonies. The best thing that can happen to Africa is adopting one common African language (maybe Swahili) so they can carry out your plan, but for the whole of sub-Saharan Africa rather than just the former French colonies.
@@anonymousmena8404 i dont think his main "target" there are the berbers
Umm India is a Union and not a Federation. American states have much much more freedom from Washington than Indian states have from New Delhi. India really doesn't have separate ethnicities like Africa. Marathis Punjabis Bengalis Tamils Kannadigas etc can't really be called separate ethnicities because their languages and cultures are very similar and they all emerge from a common Vedic Sanskritic Hindu ancient India and India was previously united many times under the Mauryans Guptas Delhi Sultanate Mughals before the British came along whereas groups like the Tuareg don't share a common history with other ethnic groups and they were never united in history before the French Empire.
AZWAD were a band from 80s. They sang "don't turn around".
Error: the Fulani don’t inhabit darfur and Eritrea!!!! Totally wrong side of the continents who wrote this?
I was also perplex hearing that, it has no logic.
Probably meant old Fulanis ? they moved a lot in the sahel region, from Sudan to Senegal, now they are mostly in West Africa as far as I know
Their numbers in Sudan is very small compared to other regions, which border Mali/Azawad. Was just odd to mention them. Why not also mention Fulani in France and USA and KSA. And there is none in Eritrea.
@@Moemuntz Fulani is not from east Africa
I am a Tuareg from north Mali (Azawad), who fortunately was born and lived abroad. Since the independence of Mali in 1960, the government has done nothing to improve the living standards of the northern regions. There are no roads, hospitals, running water or electricity. Moreover, during the various revolutions undertaken by the Tuareg people , the Malian army and allied ethnic militias have committed many massacres against civilian Tuaregs. Thus, the Tuareg people have no choice, but to seek independence from this failed state and be on their own!
@Kiki Kiki outside of some gold production they don’t produce any meaningful resource in that region of mali
@@ruspotter2037 Azawad is full of minerals and a huge potential of oil as well. However, these resources have not yet been extracted!
if you dont have electricity, how the fuck are you on the internet let alone this comment section, are you currently living abroad?
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love the saharan imazighen from a mountain amazigh
@@abdourahmanealkhalifa191 oil is a dying commodity dude.
1:15 Western Sahara were never part of french west Africa, they are among spanish west africa, coming from a native there
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and then was occupied by morocco
@@petiteexplication6249 morocco never owned western sahara before the years leading up to colonisation or even the start where europeans started to colonise africa, the claims that moroccan government says are just shit, there are only **three** empires that owned western sahara fully plus it was centuries ago, making theirs claims weak and ineffective, infact mauritania has more chance of grabbing the territory then morocco, we sahrawis were never moroccans, the king is not ours
@@PugkinSoup there are still some parts where the Polisario controlls, morocco did attempt to grab the whole region but failed, they constructed the berm
@@Gawarasmi thats why when the spanish colonized it in 1884 the sultan of the time sent troops to laiyoune the resistance was heavily funded by the sultan up until his death when his 15yo kid took over and we were doomed
Glad to know We Pashtuns in Pakistan arenèt the only ones discriminated against for our lighter skin. love to the tuareg from occupied Pashtunistan
Lmao, they not discriminated. They are ones discriminating against Africans. Maybe learn some history about them.
@@PakistanZindabad19828 No Pashtun is a proud Pakistani. Infact there is nothing to be proud of as a Pakistani. You are an Ethnic indian who is claiming fake Pashtun ancestry
@@amazingamx1255 I’m pastu I’m Pakistani I’ve lived in a village 1 hour from Peshawar all my life proud Pakistani 🇵🇰😍
@@Girlsrule3312 da pakhto yaw lavz weilei na shei, aur zanta pakhtun waiye😂
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Thought you were saying “Marlean”, not “Mali-an”. I was scared we were about to start seeing Titans in Africa lol
Technically, AoT's world is set in Africa but the map is reversed. Paradis Island is Madagascar and Marley is East Africa
The only thing that nebula lacks is a comment section for exclusives, just to see the reactions and add on more info, but is nice to get the extra content anyways
Well done for making this video on a topic few people are aware of. I would have preferred the video made reference to Niger. The instability in Mali is indirectly caused by French nuclear policy in Niger. The Uranium mine there has no safety regulations, causing cancer and infant mortality on a massive scale for humans and mammals such as livestock across the entire region. For this reason it is no longer possible to live as a nomadic herder there, so the Tuareg people have instead migrated to other areas, creating the need for the MNLA as protection for them.
I had to smile at the cosmic irony that the Tuareg people are regularly discriminated against because of their lighter skin tone.
A reminder of all how relatively subjective human tribal mentality is.
Ikr. That was the oddest thing I found
discrimination is in its core about the us vs them mentality. any kind of difference could spark it if one's not careful... or perhaps if one is petty enough.
It's usually the other way round because lighter skin generally means a person spends more time indoors, and therefore is likely to be richer and have higher status. That's the case in many countries in Asia and Africa.
That bullshit, in Africa specifically except for albino you aren’t discriminated against for being light skin.
@@jaybee4577 😂 Africa is a huge continental. Unless you have travelled to all countries in Africa, you can't say that for sure.
An independent Azawad is bad for stability you say? Because the current situation these past 3 decades has been SO STABLE
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
Great stuff again. Best explanation of the conflict I've seen so far!
Touareg in Mali are completely cut off all circles of influence, and the Touareg Region are seen as a place where corrupt politicians can enrich themselves without consequences.
In Niger on the other side they are the economic elite, its the touareg who runs the supermarkets, that import whatever it needs and even run factories. Thus, there is less need for independence there.
We should rethink the idea of 'unchangable borders' and rather see new countries emerge who can serve their population.
Watch the video from Atlas where they show what Africa would look like if divided along ethnic lines. Africa would end up having almost 300 countries.
I feel like the whole idea that African nations need to be divided along ethnic lines to survive is ridiculous and is used to hide something more serious. The biggest empire in African history, the songhai empire and Kanem bornu had many diverse ethnic groups and nobody waged war to create nationalist states then so why now?
Idk where you got your info from.... I’m Malian and I can tell you that touaregs that integrate themselves in the remaining Malian population are doing well gaining educations and not discriminated against... it only seems that way because the mind narrowed touaregs living up North play victims! I have never seen them being discriminated against or even being looked down on AT ALL in Mali
>Tuareg are regurally discrininated against because of their lighter skintone
Oh how the tables have turned...
The Curse of Ham continues, and it sucks for all involved.
it also happens in pakistan. the white Pashtun minority as treated as second class citizens
The table was turned, it happened in 15th century, far before the enslavement of West African tribes. And do you know that even West African Kings were involved in slave trade? Back then, there was no Black power or Black nationalism, they were either royals or peasants.
Me: Dang. Two coups in three years is wild.
Rome: Gotta pump that up, those are rookie numbers.
If this happens, I will become the future Tsar of Azawad.
Then I will do a red revolution in your country
Why does this already sound like a title of a great underrated Sci-Fi novel?
@@E4439Qv5 Tsar of Azawad sounds epic
An (almost double-) landlocked country in the Sahel sounds very promising for great prosperity.
Sarcasm 100
nah it has quite a bit of natural resources so it's possible it could work however I'm not entirely convinced yet
Heavy investments from the Rich Arab States could help them.
@@msbhicks8358 natural resource economies often struggle and get corrupt over time. If they can somehow diversify under a good leader then they will do well
@@johnseppethe2nd2 yeah it's main issue is the possibility of military juntas coming to power, for it to be able to stay away from that they'd need international assistance
Great video! One thing, though. I think you misspoke when you mentioned that the brief peace ended in "2017." pretty sure you meant to say "2007" there. Otherwise, a very interesting and informative video. Seems we can't stop living in interesting times these days.
The arrogance of the people arguing for the status quo because they don't want conflict when the status quo is the reason for continual conflict is baffling, and it's weird how that's how most people come to view the situation.
You, reading this, are probably from a country that once had to fight brutal wars for your own independence. And the people who fought are now most likely considered heroes. What makes you so superior to say the Tuaregs, the Kurds or even the Catalonians?
The problem in Africa is the possibility of a domino effect, once an ethnic group is independent who would sto the other ethnicities to do the same. The majority of African states are not made by a dominant ethnic group. Last point is that a lot of modern states (China, Germany, USA...) didn’t have an homogeneous population, it was also actions made by the government to unified the nations
South Sudan...that is all
In iraq (iraqi specking here) the kurds have massive autuonomy in thier regions and even in most of the cities they have majority on they dont even raise the iraqi flag, the kurds didnt and dont need to fight in iraq to get there eventual indpendint with a simple an free refrundom they will be a new state but sadly filled with politcal dynisties and oil based economy (the same things that destrioed iraq) we still have a state of union (iraq is a fedral union country stated by the constution) and i think they only need 20 more years to fully grasp the kurdish dream.
@@aliahmedwadi5849 Let's hope so. Iraqi Kurdistan has been the most peaceful part of Iraq for a long time. It has had the least terrorism, the lowest crime rates, and the best economy of any region in Iraq. They truly deserve to be recognized.
You say the Kurds in Iraq don't need to fight, but that's because they already did. They already fought. They have complete military control, and have had so from before the American invasion. America didn't send a single soldier into Kurdistan, because the Kurds already had full control over it.
I have a lot of respect for the Kurds. Here in Norway I've met and befriended several Kurds, and they've always been warm and friendly. Growing up in a part of Norway with a lot of immigration I've known so many Middle-Eastern migrants who had nothing but bitter hatred for Norway, claiming the girls were whores, that the food was awful, that our society was rotten, refusing to get local friends. But Kurds and Iranians, both, have been completely opposite. They get local friends, are respectful and very warm and open. Lovely people, both of them. I feel sorry they have to be legally a part of a country full of terrorism, corruption and sectarian hatred.
@@funghi2606 lol what the US was historically dominated by anglo-Saxons. The Han dominate China and the Prussians created Germany. We should let africa create it own ethic borders to put an end to this fighting
There's one option which wasn't mentioned regarding post-colonial states: unity. Instead of accepting the colonial borders French West Africa should have tried to form a united bloc, even if places with more developed national identities like Algeria and Morocco opted out. A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression could have made a functioning nation large enough that most ethnic groups would be completely inside it, so representation could be more fluid and a domestic process for ethnic representation could be set up. Of course such a large nation would be fairly powerful, so I'm guessing France wasn't going to be supportive of that idea...
africa is far too racist for that, not to mention the religious divisions.
Yeah so you want an even bigger country with more more different ethnic groups and even bigger territory to cover and you think that it would be better and not worse? Just look at the Democratic republic of the congo and how hard it is for the government in Kinshasa to rule effectively over the eastern part of the nation. It would be an absolute mess.
just How stupid are you
"A unifying language and shared experiences of French oppression" Fun fact: generally such ethnic groups have also a shared experience of oppressing each other, which makes this idea for smaller groups even less tempting than just keeping former colonial power.
You need to know more about Africa before you suggest such. In Nigeria alone there are at least 100 different ethnic groups
I really don’t understand why countries don’t just give independence to troublesome regions who ask for it. It solves the problem and is recognized in the un charter
It can lead to other ethnicities demanding independence. Also it will be humiliating to lose territories and threaten Government power from within
Is pretty tipical, Just think of Catalonia, Corsica, Scotland ecc
For many reasons. For instance it would be a political suicide for whoever would do such a thing.
You cant go giving everyone what they want. Eg- If theres a problem in your body(country) then you should better focus on curing it rather cutting it off and let it manage things on it own.
@@zainmudassir2964 só? France got way better after its ethnic territories broke apart. They are too much trouble
I believe the Tuareg should have their own sovereign Amazigh state. But Azawad in Mali has several problems. Firstly, not all peoples in the northern portion of Mali are Tuareg. Many peoples, especially the Songhay have their homelands along the Niger river. If Azawad became independent with the 2012 borders, it would still be a powder keg of ethnic strife. Ideally, the new state should have its borders north of the Niger river region, centered around Kidal. This would encompass primarily the Tuareg homeland, but the State would have a lot of struggles, for the land is mostly desert remote, and unproductive. The Tuareg could have the stability and National will to reach some creative solutions, and could do well living their traditional lifestyle without sacrificing much for economic growth, like Bhutan. But it would be difficult. But if it succeeds, and amazing that would be, the Tuaregs of Niger, Algeria and Lybia should join their regions in making a proper pan-Tuareg Azawad.
This century may be the time for the self-determination of peoples in Africa. Let’s hope Peace is maintained during the process.
Exactly! As a Niger Songhai, these were my thoughts also. The Songhai population in Northern Mali is greater than the Tuaregs also. Secondly, the important cities in northern Mali are also presently Songhai dominated including historical Tuareg city like Timbuktu. This would be messy if it happens
Touaregs introduced islamic slavery in these societies
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
@@dawud7864rassure toi on ne leurs cédera jamais rien ! Ils ont eut le dessus en 2012 grâce à la France mais ça c’est fini ! On va les matter comme on l’a toujours fait. Il s’agit uniquement des ifogas les kidalois la majorité des touaregs aspirent à la paix
That region should be part of Maghreb federation in the future
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You wish. Mali and niger will never be balkanized
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Thank you so much for covering this! I saw it on the Apolitical Map, and had no idea what was going on.
Love the content, but it sounds like the max volume of your videos is way too low
Agree
This scenario is extremely unlikely. Most of the Tuaregs are in Niger, and I doubt Niger will tolerate a breakaway republic. As for the Tuaregs in Mali they are too few and they lack the ability to threaten the South anymore. Mali is buying a lot of helos and weapons from the Russians and Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians. I can see them start to use the U.S. strategy in Vietnam, by indiscriminately attacking ethnic groups that produce jihadis, such as the Fulani and Tuaregs. Mali will certainly descend into a full civil war eventually, but the Tuaregs don't have a chance of winning.
"Wagner is proving to be quite effective. They recently launched an attack in a jihadi controlled village where they killed about 450 terrorist and civilians" --> :o
How is this effective, they're basically being terrorists aside the terrorists, and all it's gonna do is create more resentment...
Unless they get outside help.
@@ericjohnson7234 It is possible that Mali could get outside help, but so far, it has been very few. Considering that Europe does not want to take part in Mali due to their use of Russian weapons, I have some doubts that Mali could get an amount of outside help.
@@AnotherDolphin550 It might not. We will see.
Mali government calls the innocent civilians "territories" so they can manage actually killing them without anyone complaining about it
is it just me or is the video volume too low?
Tuaregs aren't even the majority of "Azawad" the Songhay are who they have a history of enslaving. Second the Songhay actually had MORE control over northern Mali than the Tuaregs had who were just nomads for most their history. Tuaregs never created a Songhay empire. The region of northern Mali was always dominated by West Africans. Heck archology shows that northern Mali and even Mauritania was inhabited by West Africans during the green sahara until nomadic Berbers came from further north. And no northern Mali is NEVER succeeding not just because Songhay are the majority but because of resources and with Russian weapons the Mali govt has been making more gains. Talks of Northern Mali impendence is a pipe dream.
And I find this "boohoo" victim mentality from their Berber cousins in other North African countries to be funny when North Africans constantly ABUSE Black Africans. If anything the Tuaregs should share this same energy with Algeria. lol.
Did you make a mistake when you described the locations of the Fulani people? You said they were found in Eritrea which is on the east coast of Africa next to Ethiopia.
not a mistake, the Fulani originated from there before heading west.
@@abdoulkarimdambo7905 we arent
@@abdoulkarimdambo7905 they certainly did not originate from Eritrea
There is another reason why the Tuaregs so deeply resent being under Malian rule: a general anti-West African sentiment (not just against Mali but even against Niger, Burkina Faso, etc). Tuaregs' North African background is connected with those North African nations (Tuaregs live mainly in Morocco, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria), and on their minds, these nations (mostly Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria) represent more successful civilisations and Berber ties. West Africans are seen by Tuaregs as uncivilised and backward compared to those of Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria, thus this became the core of racism and rebellion. And while these North African nations did not support any Tuareg rebellions, they secretly sympathise with them.
They should all go live in North Africa. Nothing stopping them. North Africa is peaceful now, no corruption.
Right! If there’s anyone being discriminated against it’s the rest of the Malian population who are seen as civilized. I haven’t seen any touaregs being disrespected or even looked down at after everything they’ve done in the North of Mali.
Some Tuaregs are very very dark.Much darker than most people in West Africa.
There are a lot of tribes lighter than them so their complexion is not why they are discriminated against t
@@user-vw6bk4pb4l The white ones were brought as slaves from Europe.The Barbary slave trade
Great video, but you guys might want to slow down a bit just to make sure your info and script is consistent and accurate. Saying and writing 2017 when I'm pretty sure you meant 2007 is pretty bad, and you seem to have issues like this a lot. I appreciate the amount of research you all put into these videos, but maybe take a little more time to check them over before you release them.
if the Nigerians could contain Boko haram and prevent the creation of an Islamic state in North-eastern Nigeria then we have every reason to believe that Mali will prevail and overcome the tuaregs
Great video, love that your are covering Africa as well :)
The Bambara are not a major ethnic group in Senegal
Fulani/Peul are found from Guinea Conarkry to North Sudan
10 years on, but the memory of Azawad still lives on. Yet Ansad-Dine tainted Azawadi sovereignty.
Everyone would be better off if Azawad is recognised and anchored by a physical border like the river. Then Azawad can focus on dealing with the extremists with aid.
@@AsiaMinor12 you didn’t read the comment properly did you?
I love it when you talk about African countries! Keep up the good work 👍
I’m Malian Songhai and I’m fully AGAINST the independence of the Azawad.. their barbaric behaviour in Northern Mali is absolutely Recking their cause... I mean raping women and slaughtering civilians are just the tip of the iceberg! Mali will NEVER give them what they want after such savagery!!
Why
I think that if the country of Azawad was created that it would not do well because they have no natural resources to rely on. The area is 99% desert. Maybe it would be best if they were still part of Mali but self-governing and mostly independent.
being part of mali has been tried for decades. hasn't and will not work. for all eternity the place will be in continuous conflict. Partition is the only solution
@@amazingamx1255 If northern Mali is in such a catastrophic situation it is because of the incessant rebellions
@@madoukebe4491 Whatever it may be, it has been proven that the current status quo can't be maintained and a change needs to happen
“Diversity is our greatest strength”
Diversity in Africa:
The Kurds of Africa, I'm ashamed the EU didn't recognize Azawad. They even practiced a more moderate version of Islam Turkey-style? Please let's have more of that rather than civil war and heightened extremism
It is a tribal minority of the Ifogas that demands independence. If you grant them the other tribes and ethnic groups the majority will never accept it and there will be a much bloodier civil war than the one currently underway. We must help the Malian State to sit its authorities
@@madoukebe4491, but the current junta in Mali is only accepting Russian/Wagner troops. And given their performance in Ukraine, Syria, and the CAR 🇨🇫 (failure and/or war crimes), it’s doubtful they’d be helpful.
@@christianbolisca1493 The Sahelian authorities have appealed to Russia because France has allied itself with the rebel armed groups and refuses to work with local weapons
Good coverage, but I recommend you work on your pronunciation of the names of groups, languages, etc. It shows more respect to ensure the pronunciation is accurate.
@TLDRNewsGlobal from my understanding you should really call pre/non-arab North African people Amazigh. It's the name they prefer as Berber was given to them by outsiders who saw them as different and therefore barbarians.
@Katherine Scoot While Amazigh may be a more suitable name, in colloquial English, Berber is better recognized by sources such as Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. TLDR using the name Amazigh could create unnecessary confusion, especially given TLDR's goal of making news simple.
@@been. I feel that's a bit of a cop out justification, I can understand why you've said that though. To me, it would have taken very little effort to say something in the video like "the Amazigh people, also more commonly incorrectly known as Berbers". This would have been more accurate and given more agency to the people being discussed. It could have also made some people interested in finding out why these different names are used and to learn about the history of oppression.
Calling South America "peaceful" has got to be the most misleading statement of the century lol.
Yes and no.
I love seeing New Countries that could exist soon 😌.
Depends if the country is the result of a Union between countries, they turn out much better like the UAE, but when the countries are the byproduct of a civil war or a split they immediately turn into a war infested hell holes. I don't see how Anzawa can avoid turning into another South Sudan, specially with the developed world not been in a possition to grant aid.
Interesting video! Btw what programme do you use for making the maps?
They form only 4 percent of Mali.thats a very small number to form a republic.arab gulf countries are responsible for such acts
Tomorrow is the first round of Colombia's presidential election. These elections have been the most tense ones in decades in the country, and they may represent a shift in the country's ideology.
I'd rather see Somaliland be recognized as an independent country. It is an amazing success story in that part of the world and is nothing like the failed state of Somalia.
We need a UN of Catalunya, Tibet, Azawad, Kabylia, Kurdistan, Taiwan, Ingushia, Western Sahara, Hong Kong, Balochistan, Somaliland, Tamil Eelam, East Turkestan, Chechnya, Southern Mongolia, Scotland, Cantonia, Basques, Tatarstan, Karen State etc...
@@qrsx66 Not all of those are independent in some the desire for independence may be waiting and some may not want it at all
Keep dreaming warya , somaliland will never be recognised, we share everything with Somalis
@@qrsx66
Quebec.
@@qrsx66 Khalistan too
Correction please Fulani are not indigenous in east Africa as you mentioned ( Eritrea 🇪🇷 and Darfur Sudan 🇸🇩) but rather to the west Africa as Niger Guinea and Burkina Faso.
Weren't the borders in Africa made with instability in mind? The fear of the former colonial countries that Africa will be powerful and therefore unable to exploit.
Yes, but the only ones that can change it(the African elites) benefit from the current system even more than the West and east Asia. So they want it to stay.
Well yeah these are colonial boarders, not really meant to be national boarders but for UK and France to redraw the lines they'd have had to remove all the current local leaders and reshuffle them as one, basically meaning uk and france would have ended up declaring war on 80% of Africa.
@@jimpickins7900 tbh they'd probably still win
@@003mohamud probably not with the USSR and USA as the new superpowers. Both very anti colonial. Like the suez crisis. any honestly it would just be too much cost in money and manpower, especially for the end goal of losing both empires in one go.
4:58 tensions broke again in 2017 but were finally settled in 2009?
Thats the tldr spice
the tuareg: being discriminated because of lighter skin.
The rest of the world: A surprise for sure but a unwelcome one
look upon rwandan genocide and persecution of albinoes.
The Tuaregs are not discriminated for being "lighter skinned". That's a very Eurocentric projection/sentiment. There are Tuaregs with dark and light completions and entire clans made up of exclusively darker skin people. Due to decades of western colonialism and socialization, colorism actually favors people with lighter skin complexion all over much of Africa. However, the Tuaregs do face some marginalization largely due to their minority status and nomadic lifestyle, however not for being "light skin" as you put it
a. “Berber” is a derogatory term created by Europeans
b. The French military did not leave Mali of their own choosing, they were kicked out of the country by the Malian government; Macron said they were withdrawing to try and save face.
"South america is surprisingly peaceful at the moment"
Not surprising when most of the population is centered around the coastline and the interior is uninhabitable due to extreme geography.
4:58 I think you mean 2007, not 2017.
There are so many misinformation in this video.
1:07 Your map is wrong. Not ALL of that territory was French West Africa, some of it was French Equatorial Africa
please stop calling terrorists islamic
they are not
Great video!
Ok so from my understanding Azawad (cool name btw) should be independent. They have been historically oppressed and the Mali government doesn’t seem to take care of them.
I’m not sure if they are still nomadic but if they do I hope they stay that way if Asaward becomes independent. I would love to see what a government would look like for nomads.
I think the french should step in to help Asaward. They caused this mess and they should at least attempt to help fix it.
Have you been spleeping for the past 8 years ? France tried to help against djihadist by sending troops and only gets hate and accusation of neocolonialism in return. The best course of action for France is to stay out of this.
Well you have a terrible understanding. The tuareg have been the ones who historically oppress other groups via slavery. There won't be an Azawad because most people in that region do not have any loyalty towards a fake nation like Azawad. The French are the reason why west Africa is struggling so much in the first place, so bringing them in will be a nightmare of violence and repression.
They have a point, redrawing the borders will still cause endless fighting, but it would also mean that they are going to fight amongst themselves either way
As an west African I can tell you that the short answer is no . The long answer is nooooooooooo.
8:59 TLDR how does a rebellion in 2017 end with a peace agreement in 2009?
A lot of African countries celebrate their independence as a national day.
Yet they combat liberation movements as the colonialist powers opressed them before and rally around an anti-independance principle.
I don't know what to make of that.
Azawad included also south Algeria
Imagine China conquering all of America, Canada and Mexico and then letting them have their independence again, but redrawing the borders so that Washington is in Canada and Texas is in Mexico. That's what France did to Africa. It was done specifically to create as much instability as possible.
it wasnt done to intentionally to cause as much instability as possibly its just the way they ran the colonies already basically had these borders and when they were leaving they couldn't give less of a shit about how many Africans died because of it since it would be expensive to invest in to actual infrastructure and democratic governments and they where still very racist
Even if we try to undue what the French did
I think the tension are so bad and their are much hate among the ethnic groups
That its nearly impossible to “fix” it
I suggest TLDR News Global would make a video about the Pamaris in Tajikistan. They are the minority in the country, and heavily oppressed by the central government in Dushanbe.
are the pamiris the non-east asiansÉ
The US should recognize Azawad.
And what benefit will the US get from that
Africa is such a chaotic continent. Thank you for bringing some insight into what's going on there, as Africa really doesn't get much media coverage.
Africa isn’t chaotic , Europe is no different aren’t Ukraine and Russia fighting ? Let’s not forget the global wars Europe forced the world to join in
@@Katkayz there's a lot more than 1 conflict in Africa though, they're currently in high tensions so if any new countries are made in Africa it'll basically be a continental wide fracture
@@ilovecakecanihaveapiece mention which African countries are at war , also isn’t the Middle East very volatile? And asia in general ? And you are telling me Europe is Always peaceful . Didn’t the British and the French have a 100 year war?
@@Katkayz Ethiopia is in a civil war, Morocco has border arguments, Somalia is also having to deal with separatists, and Libya has been in a civil war for a long time, C.A.R. has too, Senegal, the Gambia, Nigeria, and Cameroon also have either threatened annexation of a portion of the other country or aided a rebel group in the other country.
@@Katkayz I never said that Europe was always peaceful, I'm saying that at this moment, Africa has a ton of wars, meanwhile every other continent has at most 2, and even that is a stretch since most only have 1 as well
It is comedic that anyone would insinuate the *Tuareg*, who uphold a racial caste hierarchy in their own society with "Blacks" at the bottom, participate in the modern slave trade, and have committed targeted atrocities against "black africans" in Timbuktu and Gao are "discriminated against due to their lighter skin". Stick to reporting what you know.
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Western media are funny. Only we African can report what is happening not this people.
Its interesting how even though the map shows a huge chunck of Algeria being inhabitanted by Tuaregs, in reality its the least populated by them, as the majority apparently lives in Niger.
I tried to launch a business in South Africa once and it was as FUBA as it could be. Westerners cry racism at any nonsense out there. Africa, tho, is a real racism in its rawest form. The kind of racism we outsider can't understand. I can't tell tribes apart and often mix my team, which is considered inclusive but actually a powder keg in Africa. They can be best friends, but when one tribe hits the other outside of the team, tension will flare in the team. The only thing they all will do is to blame foreigner, me at that point, to be the cause of all difficulties. That's why I cut my lost after 6 months or so.
It may be controversial, but I think Africa has to accept that tribalism or racism or whatever they have in their culture and make policies in respond to that. They cannot abolish racism nor slavery in there at this point. It's too deep. Better make it less zhitty. With fewer coup, fewer ethnic fights, economic situation should improve and with it education. Then you can start making your culture less zhit. As it is now, it's a necessary evil.
South Africa ≠ Africa. Talking about racism when you can't even differentiate between African countries is pure irony. Maybe it was all for the best anyway
Will you guys stop talking like Africa = country? Only because you made experience does not mean all countries are like this. The issues you experienced is only because politics and bureaucracy are a mess in South Africa, partially caused by racism going in both directions and even against their own.
@@forestmanzpedia Shhhh. Stop making so much sense. Let him be racist to a whooole continent.
They can keep denying it as they always do. I didn't lump South Africa as the entire Africa. One doesn't simply decide to start a business in the place they have zero idea about. Before I decided on that venture, I was doing contract works in Somalia and a few other countries in Africa. All suffer from similar issues, with a different mix of insurgency and freedom fighters. I chose South Africa because it has potential compare to the rest, and I wasn't doing mining nor try to extract resources from the locals. If it was purely for profit, I'd just go to China at that point. I decided on that because I've seen Africa and feel they have potential. They just need a starting investment. Oh, boi, how wrong I was. They need more than that. It's a lot Ng way to go.
But if they do it right, they can take advantage of 2022 - 2023 and make their way to the world stage for real. They just have to work with their issues.
@@jarnMod No one is denying racism in any part of the world. It exists everywhere, even against their own (i.e. regional racism). Unfortunately, you picked a country with very messy bureaucracy. Maybe try it out with Ruwanda, Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Mauritius or Seychelles. Doing buisness is possible, you just need to look where. Have you checked out the global buisness rate index? The problem here is that authorities in charge are least likely willing to let their population receive better oppertunities so they themselves dont get replaced by the locals. Or they keep investments for themselves. If the people are poor, they dont get good education, get continuesly fed with negative things and misinformation and keep supporting the corrupt authorities.
Should I notice that Tuaregs never rebelled against North African nations despite their presence here? From what I believe, the North Africans appear sympathetic to them even when they don't appreciate their separatism and due to anti-Black racism by North Africans.
Because north African countries are way stronger
cuz tauregs are berbers.
if you persecute berbers in their native land thing will send up extremely bad
"From what I believe, the North Africans appear sympathetic to them even when they don't appreciate their separatism and due to anti-Black racism by North Africans." American spotted.
@@forestmanzpedia Tell me did the North Africans care a damn about Black Africans?
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nope cuz they're a minority
lying about the tuaregs smh
Think the audio in this video was a bit quiet
Even if they do become independent, it is quite likely that they themselves will fall into a tribal conflict or perennial democracy problems.
Wouldn't surprise me for a nomadic culture. Which is probably one of the underlying issues for state hood.
@@ToastieBRRRN Not even that. The largest ethnic group in the north of Mali is the Songhai not even the Tuareg.
My country. My Azawad. My Dune.
Maybe it's a good idea to read your script before filming.
An uprising in 2017 ended with a peace deal in 2009 and a Central African group of people living in Mali, Eritrea and Darfur???
You make incredible videos about a wide variety of topics but pumping out more is not always better. Take time to check and be correct even if it cuts the quantity of videos.
Not sure what my country's government thinks about having a new neighbor (Algeria)
Really annoyed by the snobbish french claiming some sort of moral highground whilst they had a major part in destorying the middle east and africa. same goes for britain
Audio on this episode is not that good. Not sure if it is just my access or the video itself?
The death of gaddafi still breaks my heart
4:00 Wow what a twist.
imo Africa needs ethnic boarders rather than colonial boarders. There would still be lots of war, but stability within countries would increase since there'd be less racial abuse.
... people would just end up attempting to genocide. Which I also am not a fan of
Bro Africa has like 500 different ethnicities a lot of them overlap with each other, have a history of high tensions with each other, and a lot of them have a deep-rooted tribal mentality. Unless you redraw the borders to include people from the same ethnic linguistic and religious groups, all it's going to do is just start making a big battle royale. Even with that they're still probably going to be a million things that could go wrong, so in reality I don't think it matters if its ethnic Borders or Colonial borders. I think what most of these countries need is first a stabilizing Force, whether it's a strong leader or a constitution that brings people together in the belief of unity, and two the people themselves letting go of the past and wanting to build a better future. Will ethnic borders be a lot easier than Colonial borders yes but a million things can go wrong and then everything just hits the fan. But I do agree with you that I am against genocide
@@reygonzalez4719 Totally agree. The continent is also swarming with power hungry dictators, that makes everything worse. Also lots of countries are increasingly going into dept to China.......
@@reygonzalez4719 Is possible to make them in groups.
That is basicly what "lets redraw the borders of Africa!" exists for.
@@Darium147 cool but there's still big problems with that like who's going to be in charge, how are you going to group the ethnicities together, what is the common language, is their religious tolerance, how you going to end old feuds. All these problems cannot be answered by just redrawing the borders because they'll just have the same problems as the current borders. The overarching problem with African countries is the instability that they have once you're able to stabilize the country that's when problems start getting resolved.
It's "Ansar Deen" (Dine read in French) which means something like "Warriors/supporters of the religion" in Arabic.
The Fulani are mostly inhabitants of west Africa and mostly Nigeria.
It made me wonder why I didn't hear Nigeria
Just a little fraction are in Nigeria also. They are mainly in Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger.
Oh wait. I have Nebula but lost of your videos I watch in YT. Does that make a difference?
Here's the real story about the problem in North Mali.
mali discovered oil in it's territory and made deals with an Australian, an Italian and an Algerian company to produce their oil.
France didn't like it (they wanted their share) and decided to support a separatist ethnic movement in the North.
they succeeded in taking over the territory! however, soon after that "radical" movements appeared and very quickly took all the territory from those French supported separatist.
then France called all it's alliance in Europe and NATO to fight those extremist groups.
Any source to back that up?
@@jimmyzboub This is a comment section, I'm not writing an article here.
You can go search by yourself.
@@abdelkaderchelfi6497 el famoso 'do your own research', I see.
@@jimmyzboub I have a website that can help you out if you want.