Can 1 Base STORM DROP Beat Grandmasters? | Beating Grandmasters With Stupid Stuff

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  • @Eddyhartz
    @Eddyhartz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    "He's going to scout this and he's going to go into robo. He's going to go into robo because he think's it's DT drop but it's not going to be DT drop it's going to be way dumber"

  • @tatatatartine2588
    @tatatatartine2588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Hello Harstem. Storm drop is one of my favorite, but since I don't have your skills, I just suck with it.
    One game-changing idea is to take 1 sentries with the templars in the prism, so that you can force field both exits of the mineral line, and then storm the drones (that can no more escape). That way, you can kill the whole mineral line in one drop.
    Since I don't have the APM to do that correctly, can you please try it and see if that can work?
    Thx, and.... bravo! :D

  • @Kaiasky
    @Kaiasky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Harstem have you done the most classic of all BGMWSS: neural parasiting a probe and then beating them with your superior PVP

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happened to me once in the ladder :0

    • @geuros
      @geuros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That's not just BGMWSS that's holy grail of SC2.

    • @MeesterG
      @MeesterG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would only work against a diamond or lower I think

    • @Kaiasky
      @Kaiasky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MeesterG the way harstem gets a lot of the harder bgmwss to work is to make an attack that would win him the game, but instead go back before the opponent taps out, which gives him space to do whatever silly strategy of the day. any strategy can work if you're 4 base and your opponent is rebuilding workers on their natural

  • @dtoughstuff8215
    @dtoughstuff8215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The micro in the first game for that hold was actually unbelievable. Saving the 2 archons with yellow health. Morphing an archon to prevent bile killing templar and then grabbing the 2 immortals. Crazy

    • @AD-lr6pc
      @AD-lr6pc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The micro was good micro, but have u seen parting control something like this? He doges oracle shots on probes with prism!

    • @karamabdulla4209
      @karamabdulla4209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      imagine thinking microing Protoss is hard

    • @AntonioLopez-kw3ev
      @AntonioLopez-kw3ev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karamabdulla4209 True ever since harstem started playing Terran you can see how he can't micro as good since it's harder for him compared to ez race protoss

    • @dtoughstuff8215
      @dtoughstuff8215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lol @ this salt. Can't even give the dude a compliment

    • @ezet
      @ezet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@karamabdulla4209 imagine thinking you could do the same

  • @Lavafish2525
    @Lavafish2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Excellent magic trick, I would even go so far as calling it glood

  • @Wirmish
    @Wirmish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Idea: Add a Sentry and use Force Field to prevent the enemy from evacuating his Probes/SCVs. Than you Storm the s**t out of them.

    • @Slynk
      @Slynk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That might require too much gas to hit early enough. Maybe, instead of storming, you warp in chargelots to the mineral line after force fielding the workers in.

    • @GollyGeeWilikers
      @GollyGeeWilikers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Slynk YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!!!

    • @boreduser12
      @boreduser12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Slynk or take a zealot that can finish off the weakened scvs after the storms

    • @tatatatartine2588
      @tatatatartine2588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's exactly what I do!! And the feeling of adding dirt over dirt is just.... out of here :DDD

    • @tehguitarque
      @tehguitarque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Slynk What if you drop with 2 templar instead of 3 since Harstem never had energy on the third anyway? Like the zealot though

  • @AnotherOne11111
    @AnotherOne11111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If I get 5 min storm dropped in ANY of my matches this month, I know who to hold it against

  • @gabydewilde
    @gabydewilde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dragon has this funny HT only troll game on yt. The opponent brings marines. HT only looks so stupid he obviously made a push and kited away from the storm and went in again but there was more storm. It got really hilarious when the remaining marines had almost no health left and the HT started chasing them down with their epic normal attack and their incredible speed.

  • @hockeyguy1166
    @hockeyguy1166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My wife says you sound like an airline pilot at the end of the video and you should cap it off with thank you for flying with harstem air.

  • @Qlmmb2086
    @Qlmmb2086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A BGWSS suggestion for your new year Harstem: Abuse the fact that shield batteries refill even when unpowered.
    Do any warp prism harass you like (immortal drop/colossus drop/distruptor, whatever) with a catch: sneak or ferry a probe with it and us it create hidden "recharge stations" out of shield batteries with no pylon (to make them cheaper and harder to spot, naturally), and then recharge your drop's shields as needed by briefly powering them with the warp prism.

  • @guest273
    @guest273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BGMWSS idea nr. 2. - Sentry Century: You need to do as much shenanigans with Sentries as possible. Use non Phoenix hallucinations to scout. Forcefield the enemy into his base. Forcefield drop your enemies minerals. Forcefield the base location where your enemy wants to expand. Use guardian shield in every fight possible (even if it's only like 3v3 units xD) etc.

  • @mr.jamesblond5727
    @mr.jamesblond5727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    BGMwSS: get someone from metal league to coach you

    • @kelsonleeisme
      @kelsonleeisme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would be hilarious. Get one of you followers to coach you and tell you what to do

    • @GrantRGarner
      @GrantRGarner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This!

  • @guest273
    @guest273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    BGMWSS idea: Achievement hunter. I don't know if you have all the 1v1 achievements or not but try grinding some achievements vs opponents. Like with Terran destroying a bunch of workers with Raven auto-turrets etc.

  • @Iseenoobpeoples
    @Iseenoobpeoples 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the funniest way to play SC2, I do the same, it certainly made my play better constantly tying these crazy strategies with all races. Keep it up!

  • @llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll
    @llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive been mothership rushing EVERYDAY with high success (and fun) since u made that vid recently, i love storm so this will be fun thxx

  • @ljisdabest
    @ljisdabest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stop playing startcraft years ago but this guy's content is entertaining af

  • @KeppyKep
    @KeppyKep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Challenge Idea: BroodWar Game Engine. You can use whatever units/strategy you like, but you must play as if SC2 has been ported into the SC1 engine. This means:
    No multiple building selection (also applies to control groups)
    No more than 12 units selected at once, or in a control group (might be difficult when boxing an army in a big fight, but try your best not to go over 12)
    No auto-mine. Probes must be rallied next to the Nexus and then manually sent to mine.
    btw, I've been suggesting this nearly every week for months. Let me know if you think this is a terrible idea and I'll stop repeating it and wasting our time.

    • @atata2000
      @atata2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think its quite good, a real challenge

  • @SuperG0alie
    @SuperG0alie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:55 "His pants should be full right now"

  • @DarkArtz212
    @DarkArtz212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo, @6:26 Harstem killed all his workers and larva. That play forced him to all in. Interesting

  • @LachimusPrime
    @LachimusPrime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always try your best, Kevin. We're proud of you, buddy.

  • @fishheadset1219
    @fishheadset1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:59, you got me good

  • @defaultname9214
    @defaultname9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done Harstem. Thanks for all the terrible ideas to use in low diamond.

  • @spn
    @spn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That troll face at 8:27

  • @antthehckyplayer
    @antthehckyplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best BGWSS Concept in quite a while, here

  • @violet9214
    @violet9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I KNEW IT WOULDN'T BE CRAP, only semi bad

  • @exchrols
    @exchrols 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very gas intensive, dropping those templar stinkbombs all over those smelly smellers! :D

  • @ZDarabos
    @ZDarabos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is your hoodie? Where is iiiiiiiiiiiit? MINDBLOWING

  • @blazepond5518
    @blazepond5518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this series is the best captain

  • @academy9457
    @academy9457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just watching Mana play against you haha; he's still live.

  • @jessemoore1384
    @jessemoore1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    one thing I believe... is that people love to watch the fire burn...

  • @thetajay392
    @thetajay392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw it on Mana's stream, and it was really confusing...

  • @garnetg987
    @garnetg987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    adding in warp prism speed wouldnt be a bad idea, but a fair bit more gas needed obviously

  • @lurenURDER
    @lurenURDER 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harstem's burdens weigh heavily. Sick plays tho

  • @ebbethinggaard
    @ebbethinggaard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BGMWSS idea: Drawing on the minimap. Place buildings and/or units in a formation that when scouted reveals a message or a picture for your opponent to appreciate.

  • @AronGreenspan
    @AronGreenspan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BGMwSS: 1 supply depot! 2 months and counting

  • @goshu7009
    @goshu7009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to drop reavers back in the day.
    Can you just drop those exploding balls which mimics the Reavere gameplay?

  • @JuruguSchmuh
    @JuruguSchmuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:06 wow!😮

  • @mariomolnar3184
    @mariomolnar3184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So funny when all european players/casters say "Ayayai"

  • @You-ul8qw
    @You-ul8qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could say that harstem is the best... stormtrooper

  • @Kassplaylist
    @Kassplaylist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "1 base" proceeds to build early second every game.

  • @jacktaormino1386
    @jacktaormino1386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:26 you know soooooo many workers died that was so satisfying haha

  • @Asterra2
    @Asterra2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    llllll's g key was out for repairs that day.

  • @arsteel2388
    @arsteel2388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest I wanna see more of these

  • @AD-lr6pc
    @AD-lr6pc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember parting doing a build like this I think

  • @cchrisYouTube
    @cchrisYouTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The commitment.

  • @iiih8920
    @iiih8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Harstem, can you try a ling flood with burrow first? Hoepfully be able to waste scans or overwhelm any enemies early on.

  • @WilliamLeer
    @WilliamLeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought about templar storm drop yesterday LMAO

    • @WilliamLeer
      @WilliamLeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also been going one gate into robo and starting immortal production immediately. Having that Immortal out early has helped a lot. I can get 3 stalker and 2 immortal really quick. I defend the first push and it is game.

  • @jimwang17
    @jimwang17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Harstem, stupid concept I just thought of and if anyone would make it work it would be you.
    PvP against masters
    Observer with pheniox to clear up any detection, then mass DT to kill army

  • @VSasseville9
    @VSasseville9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea: "Fake cannon rush" You run out with an early probe but you build a gateway at home. With your probe, you try to build at least one pylon (and cancel it/them) to cause enough missing mining time to gain a little advantage. And maybe you go for a timing push after that idk

  • @leagueresurrection
    @leagueresurrection 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Harstem

  • @commandblock7077
    @commandblock7077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im curious on whether forcefield, storm drop would be fun

  • @uhohDavinci
    @uhohDavinci 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you recognized the queen walk, just as he's about to start his attack, why not drop the temps and feedback all the queens? You get guaranteed damage and completely eliminate his ability to transfuse. Seems more damaging than the storm itself.

  • @MrSkarlowy
    @MrSkarlowy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!!

  • @xx-lz9wn
    @xx-lz9wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    with this magical trick i am going to lose 60 mmr watch me do it kids

  • @KABOOMFIN
    @KABOOMFIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idea: have to build double tech structures before you can use them

  • @flytho3501
    @flytho3501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fungle man

  • @SailingNeshy
    @SailingNeshy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing videos still - just discovered you 3 months ago. Thanks for the entertainment. I just submitted some content for you in the form of a super entertaining cannon rush game. Feel free to use in rank roulette or maybe pretend to be my opponent and make it a IODIS!

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would work better with the queen nerf

  • @oruchkin
    @oruchkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make centry drop next

  • @alanmortier5295
    @alanmortier5295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next BGWSS: Every unit you want to use first have to make a 360 degrees once. Example you want attack with a stalker and you haven't controlled the stalker before, the stalker has to make a 360. After that whenever you control the same stalker, no 360 is required. Same for your probes.

  • @2019inuyasha
    @2019inuyasha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try nexus first. No pylon no drone first...lol

  • @dt4587
    @dt4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was able to get 4:26 storm drops.

  • @Aaron-zk2wu
    @Aaron-zk2wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harstem, have you considered a video series called, "Getting Grandmaster with Stupid Stuff", where you take the stupidest of the stupid stuff and try to raise a new account all the way to GM with that one stupid build order.

  • @choclatelatte
    @choclatelatte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you know you got 8 worker kills?

    • @atata2000
      @atata2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every unit has a kill count when you select it

  • @raftolxitiannamiran8332
    @raftolxitiannamiran8332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The terran game was a win, one base full of probes (could take just one make a proxy nexus and gg) 700 minerals in bank, while terran had 0 workers on either bases. it would have been a lil painfulk and slow sure but.. that wasn't a loss, i hate how starcraft 2 has this mentality of surrender ASAP ( way way too soon ) . part of why i wouldn't even enjoy really playing it.

    • @catnhood8609
      @catnhood8609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      but he had no production left and terran had a superior army. Could he hold the base?

  • @Schoolfunds1
    @Schoolfunds1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could be faster. Proxy the robo

    • @Schoolfunds1
      @Schoolfunds1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could also be dumber, proxy the robo

  • @Gitalien1
    @Gitalien1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:05 - Protoss is such garbage that you can fast tech great cast, still have 3 bases at 5mn and even defend the counter to your failed timing attack with 3 units...
    Do you know what happens to terran doing fastest banshee cloak opener, and fail to kill opponent?
    At 5mn, it has its natural not mining because the scvs repair the stupid wall preventing opponent's army to roll over its lonely tank and 4 marines.
    Shield battery is a fucking rape, battery overcharge is a rape (just a free 14sec to get immortal or void out and ceal the deal), Immortal barrier with free 100damage points absorption is a joke, protoss air is a fucking rape (only answer is: don't let the toss go there), DTs is a joke, obs and Oracle revelation are free maphack, HT storm is fantastic, no energy? No pb, let's morph archons.
    Terrans have ghosts.
    Vikings die to anything, BCs is fucking expensive for anything else than an early-game harass ability (tactical jump) that protoss has for free in the nexus. Banshees are useless after 5mn, ravens are one-shot support cause they die straight after spell-casting. Ooooh libs can be good with range. But they are also made of paper, and without shield to be recharged by batteries.
    I played litterally less than 10 games as toss, and I reached same level as terran.... Doing stupid stuff, no build order.... Look the protoss proportions in higher leagues.
    Top10 GM us server: 7 P
    Top10 GM eu server: 5 P
    But hey, all I said before is trash. Game is balanced when you have 600APM.

  • @psdjklgfuiob
    @psdjklgfuiob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elater

  • @CeRockTV
    @CeRockTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harstem looks a bit like a young version of Elon Musk on the thumbnail.

  • @SeekAndDestroyTM
    @SeekAndDestroyTM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we stop calling these builds "fastEST"? Yes I understand why you delay things based on what makes sense for the build order, but it's possible to have 2 templar with a prism about 1 minute earlier. "I don't think it's actually possible [to get storm faster]." It actually is.