Whoever these Grand Canyon brand people are, they contracted a plant in China to make their product, so what you bought was from either the plant owner or some employees, if a design is at all popular anywhere they will after hours continue to run the plant producing the other person's product then sell them at prices way undercutting the rightful owner of the brand because they can sell it without all the overhead of marketing and shipping it to them and such, this is what happens every day in China.
I'm wondering if the manufacturer is using Temu as a way to offload mildly or cosmetically defective but still technically functional tents? Only time will tell.
Over here in Germany Grand Canyon is quite known for their cheap tents. I own their Cardova 1 which is sold here for years for about 55 EUR (60 USD) and in my opinion they offer good value for the money.
That Oxford taffeta ground sheet material you referred as a cheap tarp is a whole lot better than what most modern tents use. I still have my first tent that has the same ground sheet material in it and that tent is now fifty years old and has never once leaked.
Luke, you are the Consumer Protection Agency of outdoor gear. Right now, I am staying away from Temu, but I said the same thing about off brands on Amazon 10 years ago. Thanks for purchasing, testing and reviewing all things outdoors…..you rock!
I have not bought a tent from TEMU but have bought some golf shoes and a pair of boots. The quality and price is very good, one not so good was a inflatable camp pillow that never held the air for very long.
Thanks Luke. I think this is another sign that the Chinese pricing cartel model is breaking down. This is just a realistic price for stock that wasn't selling at the inflated prices elsewhere. I've concluded that those online markets that look open and fully competitive really aren't. Everything that interests me was steadily climbing in cost well before Covid. Then this year I scored a Mongar 2 and Cloud Peak 2 via Amazon for half the price on Aliexpress. And the 20D versions too.
I've done two orders from Temu and so far I'm very impressed with the stuff. An interesting fact about them, they just launched in September 2022 and are already doing 1/3rd the sales of amazon, and it's no wonder when you get the exact same stuff for less that half the price.
Amazon has been falling off lately. I found what i wanted on amazon at walmart for almost 25% less than the price at amazon. Needless to say i no longer have an amazon account.
@@SamaelMoneyStein Yeah I'm not sure what happened but not only did prices increase there but their shipping changed and got way slower, back in the day even with normal non-prime free shipping I would get packages within 3-5 days but then it started taking 5-8 days and prime 2 day was taking 3 or 4. Temu is even slower shipping since it comes from china but at less than half the price I can accept the slowness.
As soon as I saw your adventure with this tent the other day I went to Temu and purchased. I was able to get a coupon for 30% off and got the tent for 35 bucks. If it sucks it will still be worth $35.
Used this tent on a 240 km hike. Had absolutely no problems with it. Several days with torrential downpour..no leaks. Good size if you want to keep your gear inside. Incredible for the price. I only bought a new tent to save a bit on weight.
I like the looks of the tent. If it passes the rain test, I would not mind putting some seam sealer on the floor seams to make sure that they won't leak. It is definitely a nice looking tent.
A well known British you-tuber grandly pronounced a tent is the best , it was a big Agnes tent that he had literally opened on camera and set up in ideal conditions in his garden that day this is why I watch your channel you put things through their paces and give a verdict based on the results of testing in conditions they need to stand up to , no bought and paid for reviews from you , you give honest reviews and you’ve got a trusted well earned reputation for that and long may it continue .
@@lioneljonson161 it was the TH-camrs tent and it was a big Agnes , yes I could of worded it better. But most people will get what I mean , there are many many examples of people saying it’s the best while doing an unboxing , with outdoor gear things need to be fit for purpose because things can go very wrong very quickly , I’m sure you knew exactly what I meant ie that the comment was about Luke’s channel and his trusted reputation not the tent he was reviewing in the video.
@@odys3803 Wow TH-cam auto censors my comments... Great when you are trying to inform people about a subject... Let's try saying it like this then: Temu is most likely just a tool for gathering information and selling everything at a loss, UpperEchelon on TH-cam has a great video about this, hopefully I don't get censored this time...
The app is probably as bad as tiktok with full permissions on the entire phone so it can steal/scrape everything straight to the CCPs databases. That said I have ordered a few things from Temu and the quality is usually pretty low but the cheap prices do make a case as long as you're being careful with how you order, on what devices.
I'm a frugal car camper of many decades, and here's the thing about cheap tents: they've cut corners which often you, the tent's owner, can sometimes fix! Buying seam sealer and spending an hour or two going over 100% of the stitching goes a long way - some tents that appear to have their seams "taped" aren't really properly seam sealed. If you notice stress points that don't seem strong enough - get out needle and thread and nylon strap material and reinforce them! If the tent doesn't seem stable in the wind, identify two to four possible guylines you can add to make it more stable. I once bought a $90 three person tent whose rainfly at the side laid limp directly against the mesh of the inner tent. Five minutes with paracord and some safety pins, and I had it set up to pull the fly away from the mesh, providing fantastic ventilation. That $90 tent is now my mainstay, seven foot square so big enough for my 12" high cot (a necessity for this newly retired adventurer).
You can scrap the tent and keep the fly after you burn it. Replace the poles and make them aluminum for a floorless tent.😎👍 A couple coughlins heavy duty stakes with plastic green pole holders. Personally don't like a completely sealed tent. Going floorless will prevent pooling if you have a leak. enable you to use a stove and trap heat more effectively.
I love TEMU I hav brought many products with NO PROBLEMS AT ALL... I hav alot of gear from TEMU I use camping... my tent, my tarps, my camp kitchen, my tent stakes, clothes mosquito lamps, the list goes on... I have had much better results on TEMU than I did with Amazon and Ali Express.... I do notice alot of Americans who review TEMU have their nostrils curled at the corners 😂😂😂
I've a friend who is an industrial engineer in Hong Kong. If you are a big company, a chain and want to sell something like a lawnmower, but don't want to build it yourself, my friend will source the parts from China, have it assembled and then shipped to your warehouse. A few years a go, a large hardware chain hired him to put together a small push lawn mower which he did, it was done and labeled with the name of the chain and ready to ship. When the buyer came to inspect it, they found something they didn't like and canceled the order. My friend simply sold the mowers, labeled with the Ace Hardware logo, to someone else. So, 15,000 Ace Hardware mowers ended up who knows where. I'll bet something like that happened with these tents and Temu ended up with them instead of Grand Canyon.
I've bought some things from Temu, nothing for outdoors, just kitchen and personal stuff. The prices on a lot of their stuff are so low, I don't really care if it works "well" or not, and the quality can be surprisingly good. One of my first purchases was a vacuum sealer for $15 - FIFTEEN USD!!! I figured going in that there was no way it would actually work, but it works pretty damn well. It doesn't have a lot of features, but for $15, I don't expect it to have all of the bells and whistles - just to vacuum seal a pouch. I've got a pouch I sealed when I first bought it (over a year ago now), and it's still sealed tight and no air has leaked in - I call that a success! I'll be interested to find out how your "cheap" tent works in real life. One question you immediately brought to mind with your comment about, "It's a $50 tent, and the materials feel like a $50 tent" - if that's the case, how does the company justify charging 100 Euros for the same tent on its website?
An old friend of mine bought a junk tent with fiberglass poles several years ago. While trying to get one of the ends in the grommet the pole snapped and the recoil drove it into his forearm at the elbow and back out at his wrist on the other side of his arm. Ruined our trip, obviously, but it also ruined his arm and his construction career because even after a hell of a lot of surgeries and physical therapy he was never again able to twist his forearm or grip anything in his right hand tight enough to do anything with it. Left a really nasty scar, too.
@@desperadodeluxe2292 They can be if they're cheap. If they're cheap and it's really cold outside you might as well just go ahead and stab yourself with it and get it over with.
@@Im_With_Stupid I had a stansport tent similar to one in the vid with fibers. Lasted awhile with the originals but the replacement kept breaking. I took aluminum poles from another tent and used them to keep the fly up and ditched the tent body. Effectively going floorless.
This package with the Polyester fabrics reminds me of my early camping days. Most times, I would be able to peg out the tarp. Waterproof and $50. would be 'good to go' for me.
I heard that the reason that Temu sells things so cheap is that they steal your data and install spyware, I don’t know if that is true but buyers beware.
One thing you have to realize is that in other countries, which is where Temu is stationed, just like Aliexpress, Alibaba, etc, the literal 100% same things we buy here for X amount of price, are super cheap in the rest of the world by comparison. Prices are literally jacked up in America because they know they can. It's entirely possible that either Grand Canyon is in on it, ooor, someone else is buying Grand Canyon stuff super cheap, still jacking the price up relative to their country, but at the same time, still being able to offer it to us at half what we would normally buy it for and still be able to make a profit.
Temu to my understanding blurs out logo of companies to cut down on clones using trademark company names. Pretty much if you see a blurred logo its a counterfeit or suspected to be counterfeit by Temu.
This tent was sold out on Temu at the time of your last video when you introduced us to it. I doubt that they will restock it. I"m sure that they got a great 'bundle' deal of some sort when they (the seller) first bought it (or them) & listed it. It's gone.
This is a copy design wise to the mil-tec recom 1.i have that tent, the recom is sealed, the materials are different, better. The recom also had fiberglass poles, I swapped them for aluminum custom ones and changed the stakes. I too liked the design that's why I got it and it's also seam sealed without that terrible coleman material floor.
I've seen some ads from temu and the prices were so good, I thought it was a scam of some kind. At least I know you actually got a product. I bought an off brand 2 man tent for 70 dollars a couple years ago and I am totally happy with it. It weighs 5 lbs and has a full fly and even a ground cloth. The bottom looks a lot more impressive than that one and it's roomier. Aluminum poles and I'm pretty sure it's nylon or something like it. My other tent weighs 3 lbs but I get claustraphobic in it. Can't sit up or move around.
Funny thing is that years ago I had a Coleman tent that was used for backpacking with my son's Boy Scout Troop and had no problems with it. Yes it was cheap but worked great.
I wonder if the Temu version is a counterfeit. Similar design but modifications and cheaper materials. Could even be produced on the same production line in China.
I bought a 1 person tent from Temu by Desert Fox for $50. I watched a review on it and thought it would be good for my BOB. It really is a decent tent, but I ordered the wrong one. So now I have to go thru the return process. I later noticed the same tents are also sold on Amazon for a few dollars more. I am not sure Team is worth the hype. I jumped on it for the price only without looking at other sellers.
A couple of months ago I ordered what looked like a Gerber military style sheath knife. I was surprised when I received it and the box said Gerber, had the Gerber logo, and said made in the USA. I paid less than 15 dollars and have seen the same knife at Walmart and on Amazon for 79 dollars. So far it's been a great knife but I haven't done any serious work or cutting with it.
I have sleeping mat from Grand Canion R 4.5. I used that mat last winter in -10C and it was warm. Price was about 50 dollars. I believe this tent will be not so bad 😊
Grand Canyon likely pays a Chinese factory to make their tents, and the factory just makes more and sells the extras. Would be interesting to compare the Grand Canyon origional to this one. Possible that the Temu version is made with cheaper material.
just came across your channel by accident and heard the name Temu. I have been buying Temu products for about a year now and have been happily surprised by 99% of what I have purchased. I've bought clothing and lots of craft items and just fun novelty items. Had one problem with an order - two items were not correct with the rest - Temu covered the cost of the whole shipment and told me to keep it all. Not bad
This exact tent is sold here in Brazil by Nautika, by name NTK Windy 1. And costs 60 dollars. Here, its consideered by the local survivalists and preppers as a cheap escape tent.
This sounds like it may be a factory second being sold by a bulk buyer. For 50 some dollars doing some seam sealing doesn't sound to unreasonable. As for Temu I won't use them or Ali Babba or any other Chinese service.
I have recently made a few orders from teemu... mostly small cheaper items I couldn't find elsewhere. The delivery was very fast.. some items but only costing under €1 were junky plastic but the majority did what they said on the tin and good quality... and yes were third or less the price one would expect to pay elsewhere. Their email updates were very efficient and itemized and if some things were going to arrive before others or separate orders bundled together they send an update email. And they credit you with €5 if any item in an order arrives after the stated arrival date..
I have used TEMU for several inexpensive items for which I had no expectations other than a low, low price. Mesh bags, cheap sunglasses, yard shoes, etc. If you want three pair of cheap sunglasses for $10 and don’t care if they break or get lost, then fine. I bought some super cheap razors. Use two or three times and throw away. But like I say, they were cheap. That’s all I expect and I’m happy with that.
I bought a Eureka Backcountry 1. It's alot like that, just design. The backcountry by Eureka is badass, I've had for 15 years, and use every yr backpacking.
I've purchased 3 camp chairs from Temu that weighted 2lbs or less and held 250lbs +. We did have a failure of one snapping when the a family member started rocking in it unadvisably. The issue with Temu, like this video, is that there is one manufacturer for a product that gets licensed under many different names. The chairs I purchased were the exact same as several different middle men-esque company names. There are some good buys there if you don't expect the highest of quality.
I have gotten a bunch of temu camping items, no tents. tarps and other camping gadgets are great and cheap. Picked up alien rings, drybags, camp storage, lights, and other items for way cheap. If your not trying to buy high end knock offs you should be good. Bonus is the money saved.
I am completely addicted to Temu. I order all kinds if items every week. I have only been disappointed twice. One time it was a knife that was very tiny. Some of the kitchen utensils are tiny too. As long as I read the fine print showing size dimensions, it's good. Live and learn. Quality is no different then Wally world, only you cut out the middle man.
I doubt you will see this. However I recently purchased a Eureka Mountain Pass 3. It’s a convertible 4th season tent that can be easily used year round. It’s price is mid ($420 for the 3 man) and I’m pretty well floored. For the price it’s giving a solid run at tents way above its price point. I think your pack may be interesting if winter camping on a budget is something they like.
I’ve bought hundreds of items from Temu. They are wonderful. Not one wrong order. They have good customer service. All my packages have arrived as promised. I love them
I would almost bet that the tent is an unauthorized Chinese knockoff of the Grand Canyon tent and that Grand Canyon knows nothing about it...until now!
It’s possible Grand Canyon sells their tents with imperfections wholesale to minimize loss. These may be the ones that didn’t pass the quality checks. That’s why they are good quality but many imperfections. They just can use the name to void trademarking issues on exports. 😊
If this tent is waterproof, I'm probably going to get one since it's cheap. I don't see many one man tents that would be practical for someone who is 6'2".
I bought from them twice but didn't download the app. The 2nd purchase I realised they stored my card details and since then I've had loads of spam emails...
The crazy thing is, the wholesale cost of this tent is probably $20 or less. Temu is a Chinese company who has granted some exclusive rights to Grand Canyon in a specific region. The Chinese do this all the time. In other regions, they just sell the Grand Canyon marked product to keep from having to produce two versions. Hard to saw what GC will say, but that is the truth.
FYI ; TEMU says they have a 90 day return policy but they don't. If you wait 90 days TEMU will not except the return. The maximum allotted time to get in touch with TEMU is between 80 and 89 days and the TEMU as a company was setup to take out another online company. TEMU is a Chinese company as is ALIBABA. I can not remember the name of the online company TEMU was setup to take out though.
I have Grand Canyon Cordova, used it in Austria in Alps in a reaaaally nasty rain and wind, also in Slovenia on my way home to Croatia and I love it! I had seam seal ready in a case it's poor but all was good. I mean it was car camping and I tested it as a car tent to have on standby, not a self standing tent but really spacious, me and my dog had a lot of space! I don't like vestibule bot a single bit but as I said it's a tent to have in a car. I have cheap tarp in a car as well just to cover vestibule. All in all, 8/10, not including it was only 60€ on Amazon.
It used to be "seconds" were sold on a place called NewFrog. Any blemish and it became a second. Lots of names brand stuff cheap. That not of seeing in the bottom makes it a second. They probably did dream tape it due to it already being a second.
I have a bear grylls cascade 1 tent I got years ago almost identical to that one but mine comes with aluminum poles, rip stop nylon rain fly, included ground cloth. I keep it in my bug out kit. Great tent.
I buy alot of stuff from Temu,for the most part I've been very happy,they had a aniversary sale,great prices,then a Good Friday sale,the sales are good prices,I bought alot of solar lawn decorations dirt cheap and really neat
Hey Luke. You really have to be selective with items from Temu, as you can guess. Temu is a Chinese holding company, PPD, based in Boston. Their unique business model is buying directly from the manufacturers. I have actually bought items, gave them a poor rating and Temu has credited my account and instructed me to just "dispose of the item". In the middle of the garbage pile, you can stumble across a few diamonds! Lol Thanks for the info.
Luke, I saw this video and got the tent. It does have the same issues you described and I went ahead and seemed sealed it’s fly. I just rewatched your evaluation again and realized I didn’t seal the tie down stitching the on the tub not being seen sealed. I’ve have used the tent for three adventures. No issues with the tent. However it didn’t rain , so I don’t know if there’s a leaking problem. The temperature at Sly Park got down to low 30’s with winds gusting to 20’s and and the tent was comfortable . I will be seen sealing the tent floor stitching for next outing. I was wondering if you had done a rain test on this tent. I enjoy your adventures! You and Suzie rock ! Be safe
I use Temu but NEVER for anything important. My D&D Dice are ok but that 2k mAh powerbank arrived broken and when I opened it to fix it, it contained a single rechargeable AA-battery. My cooking pot was OK but the glow-in-the-dark tent stake rings were useless. You get what you pay for with Temu.
Maybe Grand Canyon is selling tents that don’t pass there quality control or factory seconds.if so for a little of your own labor to seam seal the tent than maybe you have a good tent at a big saving’s. If you seam sealed the problem areas before the rain test I think we would have a better idea if it is worth buying. Might be an interesting video to show people that they can save money and get out and camp with out spending a lot of money. I love your videos. Your help and expertise is invaluable in making smart decisions about our gear thank you for all that you do. Live free and stay safe
Very similar to the Mil-tec Recom (yes that's spelled correctly) which was a good little tent, but was too small for me in the long run so I ended up moving to the ICS
You can only use the price point as a defense for a failure to deliver once or twice. If you say it enough times you eventually justify why a piece of fecal matter is only a hundred dollars. I wouldn't buy that tent for fifty dollars. I actually did find a fifty dollar tent that has all my boxes checked for what I consider desirable features all the way down to the toggles used to tension the guylines. The floor is about the size of a queen size bed, the aluminum poles practically put themselves together, the main tent clips to the poles without having to feed poles through sleeves and there are doors on both sides with vestibules at each. The sides are very vertical so you can sit upright almost all the way to one side and the whole thing weighs around six pounds. It was fully taped but I still applied waterproofing like you always should. If you half zipped the rainfly doors you would still be protected from the average rain storm and have spectacular ventilation. There are still openable vents near the top that you can open or close without going outside. I bought another tent that still has sleeves for the poles but it's like what was left in stock of an older design which was quite high end when it was new. It's tall enough to stand up and has a vestibule you can almost stand up inside giving enough room to change clothes or put your boots on or off. It's bigger and heavier but still reasonable to take with me on my adventure bike and it only cost me sixty dollars. Growing up I had a two man pup tent that was about fifteen dollars at the time and you can still get them but they're about fourty dollars now. You always had to treat them with waterproofing and it said so in the literature but if you did, they performed surprisingly well. Some tents have to be treated before use to be fair. I think if it says so in the manual, you have to treat them before testing and if it doesn't, you don't.
The market is flooded with knockoffs, take airsoft for example... I'm all about saving money, but I typically buy direct or from reputable dealers...Temu is very questionable. I look forward to hear about your inquiry sent to Grand Canyon, but would also like to see a side by side comparison should you purchase a Apex 1 directly from them or by a reputable dealer. Otherwise great content, keep sharing, and I'll keep watching/liking!
My guess why the company didn't respond is 2 fold... 1. They don't want to admit they sell their tents to Temu, which then sells them at half the price. 2. The quality issues you mention ( no waterproofed seams, and slightly damaged screen) and overall cheapness of some components, means they're selling the ones that don't pass the $100+ inspection to Temu, instead of to a Job Lot or Big Lots or other off price store. The answer is always "follow the money". Some pencil pusher found a good deal with Temu and the company still makes money which covers the manufacturing costs without warehousing the rejects.
I have alot of temu stuff. Most of it works good. Projector. Night vision. Nick naks. Accessories for my kayak. Gas mask. ..only problem I have is a few of the nicknaks were damaged small parts. I used a bit of super glue
I have a locally produced here in WA state, backpacking tent, from River country. All seams are sealed, tub floor made out of this plastic coated canvas material. Ive lived in this thing off an on for 3 years and its the best 60$ I've ever spent. Its a 1 man bp tent, weighs close to 3 lbs and has enough room for me at 6 foot 200 lbs, my 105l keltie pack, a uswe bag i use as a day bag and a dog. Been some serious weather in this thing and its held up, ive had to re spray weather proofing once. No way anything from temu would last a month in the real world.
River Country gear is made in China, my man. If it was US made "Made in the USA" would be splattered all over their website and product descriptions and it would cost 2-3x more than it does. They're trekking poles are generic rebrands. I'm not saying it's not good gear, and I would like to try one of those Trekker Palaces, but it's not US made stuff.
When the manufacturer sells direct to you and cuts out the middleman it's my explanation for the dramatically lower price. Spent $5 on temu for a 40oz Stanley tumbler and it's identical to my wife's real $50 Stanley. Both made in China.
the thing with temu is that they resell a lot of seconds and errors. scratch and dents, or just mess ups. GC knows, but I doubt they would admit it because those tents should never have seen the light of day
Just a caution for buying anything off Temu. Please, please, please, use a third party pay service that is not hard linked in any way to your account. Not a credit card or debit card. Not sure if is the company or if they're just having security breaches. But quite a few people I know have had their accounts drained or run up after buying something off Temu. Hundreds of small purchases. Most were $10 or less.
Took me a few but tried temu and honestly I like them I been impressed with their stuff over wish and shien. From small items to clothes to some camping lights I got and stuff like that. Thanks for the reviews
I wonder if the manufacturing company that makes the rainfly decided to purchase, or acquire, spare or extra rainflies and carrying cases, and then build everything else about this tent themselves for super cheap. Cheap poles, cheap tent, cheap stakes, but lovely wonderful rainfly that elevates and completes the entire experience? Something fishy’s goin on…
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a reply from Grand Canyon. "Thanks for letting it us know. You can try your original Grand Canyon by purchasing in any legal outdoor stores or on the official website."😂
I'd guess either: some seller got a cheap bulk wholesale deal on a bunch of Grand Canyon tents and is selling them below their MAP price OR the Chinese company that makes GC's tents during the day ran an extra run of them some evening (maybe with cheaper materials) & TEMU is selling these counterfeit tents. I suspect the latter is where a lot of TEMU crap comes from and this is the main reason I don't buy from them.
Quick Update : I reached out to the company Grand Canyon concerning this tent and Temu and they never responded.
- Luke
Whoever these Grand Canyon brand people are, they contracted a plant in China to make their product, so what you bought was from either the plant owner or some employees, if a design is at all popular anywhere they will after hours continue to run the plant producing the other person's product then sell them at prices way undercutting the rightful owner of the brand because they can sell it without all the overhead of marketing and shipping it to them and such, this is what happens every day in China.
Not surprised
I'm wondering if the manufacturer is using Temu as a way to offload mildly or cosmetically defective but still technically functional tents? Only time will tell.
Maybe factory seconds that didn't pass QC.
Think youl find that brand will be produced in China.
Over here in Germany Grand Canyon is quite known for their cheap tents. I own their Cardova 1 which is sold here for years for about 55 EUR (60 USD) and in my opinion they offer good value for the money.
Honestly I bought shoes off TEMU not bad at all for the money
The brand is known in Germany and Europe. Ive got the Apex1 myself for quite some time and had no issues. The price to quality ratio is really good.
I agree, the quality in Europe is better than the one Luke got on Temu 👍
I'm Danish and we know Grand Canyon quite well ❤❤
Me too, I have several of them in different sizes and had their Teepee, they are fine, no issues with them either
@@frederikvaldorf4050They might have been factory seconds, hence the price
That Oxford taffeta ground sheet material you referred as a cheap tarp is a whole lot better than what most modern tents use. I still have my first tent that has the same ground sheet material in it and that tent is now fifty years old and has never once leaked.
Luke, you are the Consumer Protection Agency of outdoor gear. Right now, I am staying away from Temu, but I said the same thing about off brands on Amazon 10 years ago. Thanks for purchasing, testing and reviewing all things outdoors…..you rock!
I have not bought a tent from TEMU but have bought some golf shoes and a pair of boots. The quality and price is very good, one not so good was a inflatable camp pillow that never held the air for very long.
Thanks Luke. I think this is another sign that the Chinese pricing cartel model is breaking down. This is just a realistic price for stock that wasn't selling at the inflated prices elsewhere. I've concluded that those online markets that look open and fully competitive really aren't. Everything that interests me was steadily climbing in cost well before Covid. Then this year I scored a Mongar 2 and Cloud Peak 2 via Amazon for half the price on Aliexpress. And the 20D versions too.
I've done two orders from Temu and so far I'm very impressed with the stuff. An interesting fact about them, they just launched in September 2022 and are already doing 1/3rd the sales of amazon, and it's no wonder when you get the exact same stuff for less that half the price.
so you support slave labor and genocide?
Amazon has been falling off lately. I found what i wanted on amazon at walmart for almost 25% less than the price at amazon. Needless to say i no longer have an amazon account.
@@SamaelMoneyStein Yeah I'm not sure what happened but not only did prices increase there but their shipping changed and got way slower, back in the day even with normal non-prime free shipping I would get packages within 3-5 days but then it started taking 5-8 days and prime 2 day was taking 3 or 4. Temu is even slower shipping since it comes from china but at less than half the price I can accept the slowness.
Just stay far away from their app. Where it is that it loads your devices with malware and compromises your security
@@95TurboSolbut you don't pay extra for shipping !
The parcel I ordered 5 days ago arrived today in France.
As soon as I saw your adventure with this tent the other day I went to Temu and purchased. I was able to get a coupon for 30% off and got the tent for 35 bucks. If it sucks it will still be worth $35.
That's more like it.
Used this tent on a 240 km hike. Had absolutely no problems with it. Several days with torrential downpour..no leaks. Good size if you want to keep your gear inside. Incredible for the price. I only bought a new tent to save a bit on weight.
A 250 km hike, you say?
@@davidstair9657 Nope..240 :) Not really that crazy compared to PCT and such.
I like the looks of the tent. If it passes the rain test, I would not mind putting some seam sealer on the floor seams to make sure that they won't leak. It is definitely a nice looking tent.
A well known British you-tuber grandly pronounced a tent is the best , it was a big Agnes tent that he had literally opened on camera and set up in ideal conditions in his garden that day this is why I watch your channel you put things through their paces and give a verdict based on the results of testing in conditions they need to stand up to , no bought and paid for reviews from you , you give honest reviews and you’ve got a trusted well earned reputation for that and long may it continue .
First you said it was this tent then you wrote it was a Big Agnes tent. Which was it? Which You-tuber was it so we can see for ourselves?
@@lioneljonson161 it was the TH-camrs tent and it was a big Agnes , yes I could of worded it better. But most people will get what I mean , there are many many examples of people saying it’s the best while doing an unboxing , with outdoor gear things need to be fit for purpose because things can go very wrong very quickly , I’m sure you knew exactly what I meant ie that the comment was about Luke’s channel and his trusted reputation not the tent he was reviewing in the video.
@@mickd6942 thanks for explaining. It all makes sense now. I should have put quotes in my head around “this tent is best”.
You talking about hazeoutdoors 😂 he's always banging on about big Agnes.
Aha I was thinking he was on about him as well. I like watching haze good crack.
Not touching Temu with a 10-foot pole.
Why?
never, amazon is bad enough but temu takes the cake
I don't blame you, there is a lot of bad reviews
@@odys3803 Wow TH-cam auto censors my comments... Great when you are trying to inform people about a subject... Let's try saying it like this then: Temu is most likely just a tool for gathering information and selling everything at a loss, UpperEchelon on TH-cam has a great video about this, hopefully I don't get censored this time...
The app is probably as bad as tiktok with full permissions on the entire phone so it can steal/scrape everything straight to the CCPs databases. That said I have ordered a few things from Temu and the quality is usually pretty low but the cheap prices do make a case as long as you're being careful with how you order, on what devices.
I'm a frugal car camper of many decades, and here's the thing about cheap tents: they've cut corners which often you, the tent's owner, can sometimes fix! Buying seam sealer and spending an hour or two going over 100% of the stitching goes a long way - some tents that appear to have their seams "taped" aren't really properly seam sealed. If you notice stress points that don't seem strong enough - get out needle and thread and nylon strap material and reinforce them! If the tent doesn't seem stable in the wind, identify two to four possible guylines you can add to make it more stable. I once bought a $90 three person tent whose rainfly at the side laid limp directly against the mesh of the inner tent. Five minutes with paracord and some safety pins, and I had it set up to pull the fly away from the mesh, providing fantastic ventilation. That $90 tent is now my mainstay, seven foot square so big enough for my 12" high cot (a necessity for this newly retired adventurer).
You can scrap the tent and keep the fly after you burn it. Replace the poles and make them aluminum for a floorless tent.😎👍
A couple coughlins heavy duty stakes with plastic green pole holders.
Personally don't like a completely sealed tent. Going floorless will prevent pooling if you have a leak. enable you to use a stove and trap heat more effectively.
Wonder if it's a factory second or didn't pass quality control?
I love TEMU I hav brought many products with NO PROBLEMS AT ALL... I hav alot of gear from TEMU I use camping... my tent, my tarps, my camp kitchen, my tent stakes, clothes mosquito lamps, the list goes on... I have had much better results on TEMU than I did with Amazon and Ali Express.... I do notice alot of Americans who review TEMU have their nostrils curled at the corners 😂😂😂
I've a friend who is an industrial engineer in Hong Kong. If you are a big company, a chain and want to sell something like a lawnmower, but don't want to build it yourself, my friend will source the parts from China, have it assembled and then shipped to your warehouse. A few years a go, a large hardware chain hired him to put together a small push lawn mower which he did, it was done and labeled with the name of the chain and ready to ship. When the buyer came to inspect it, they found something they didn't like and canceled the order. My friend simply sold the mowers, labeled with the Ace Hardware logo, to someone else. So, 15,000 Ace Hardware mowers ended up who knows where. I'll bet something like that happened with these tents and Temu ended up with them instead of Grand Canyon.
I've bought some things from Temu, nothing for outdoors, just kitchen and personal stuff. The prices on a lot of their stuff are so low, I don't really care if it works "well" or not, and the quality can be surprisingly good.
One of my first purchases was a vacuum sealer for $15 - FIFTEEN USD!!! I figured going in that there was no way it would actually work, but it works pretty damn well. It doesn't have a lot of features, but for $15, I don't expect it to have all of the bells and whistles - just to vacuum seal a pouch. I've got a pouch I sealed when I first bought it (over a year ago now), and it's still sealed tight and no air has leaked in - I call that a success!
I'll be interested to find out how your "cheap" tent works in real life. One question you immediately brought to mind with your comment about, "It's a $50 tent, and the materials feel like a $50 tent" - if that's the case, how does the company justify charging 100 Euros for the same tent on its website?
Same experience so far after maybe 200 purchases...cheers
You can get this tents for around 60 Euros here in Europe. I have another model from this company and I am pretty happy with it for the price.
The one pole Person ?
Which shop ?
This same tent is $50 on temu Canada that's a sweet deal literally it could be disposable 😂
А у нас в Украине она 130 долларов 😮.
An old friend of mine bought a junk tent with fiberglass poles several years ago. While trying to get one of the ends in the grommet the pole snapped and the recoil drove it into his forearm at the elbow and back out at his wrist on the other side of his arm. Ruined our trip, obviously, but it also ruined his arm and his construction career because even after a hell of a lot of surgeries and physical therapy he was never again able to twist his forearm or grip anything in his right hand tight enough to do anything with it. Left a really nasty scar, too.
That's some final destination shxt. Dang fiberglass poles are deadly.😐
@@desperadodeluxe2292 They can be if they're cheap. If they're cheap and it's really cold outside you might as well just go ahead and stab yourself with it and get it over with.
@@Im_With_Stupid I had a stansport tent similar to one in the vid with fibers.
Lasted awhile with the originals but the replacement kept breaking. I took aluminum poles from another tent and used them to keep the fly up and ditched the tent body. Effectively going floorless.
This package with the Polyester fabrics reminds me of my early camping days. Most times, I would be able to peg out the tarp. Waterproof and $50. would be 'good to go' for me.
Good emergency shelter to leave in the truck and not have to worry too much about being stolen. Cheap as it is, it could save you.
I heard that the reason that Temu sells things so cheap is that they steal your data and install spyware, I don’t know if that is true but buyers beware.
and exploitation of workers and merchants
Don't download the app. You can still place orders and returns without the app.
Use a browser..not the apps for any foreign site.
You’ve brainwashed by Biden.
That's propaganda put out by Amazon and the American oligarchy because they don't like the competition
One thing you have to realize is that in other countries, which is where Temu is stationed, just like Aliexpress, Alibaba, etc, the literal 100% same things we buy here for X amount of price, are super cheap in the rest of the world by comparison. Prices are literally jacked up in America because they know they can. It's entirely possible that either Grand Canyon is in on it, ooor, someone else is buying Grand Canyon stuff super cheap, still jacking the price up relative to their country, but at the same time, still being able to offer it to us at half what we would normally buy it for and still be able to make a profit.
I've been buying things from temu lately, no camping gear, stuff for my bicycle, but no complaints
Temu to my understanding blurs out logo of companies to cut down on clones using trademark company names. Pretty much if you see a blurred logo its a counterfeit or suspected to be counterfeit by Temu.
This tent was sold out on Temu at the time of your last video when you introduced us to it. I doubt that they will restock it. I"m sure that they got a great 'bundle' deal of some sort when they (the seller) first bought it (or them) & listed it. It's gone.
This is a copy design wise to the mil-tec recom 1.i have that tent, the recom is sealed, the materials are different, better. The recom also had fiberglass poles, I swapped them for aluminum custom ones and changed the stakes. I too liked the design that's why I got it and it's also seam sealed without that terrible coleman material floor.
I've seen some ads from temu and the prices were so good, I thought it was a scam of some kind. At least I know you actually got a product. I bought an off brand 2 man tent for 70 dollars a couple years ago and I am totally happy with it. It weighs 5 lbs and has a full fly and even a ground cloth. The bottom looks a lot more impressive than that one and it's roomier. Aluminum poles and I'm pretty sure it's nylon or something like it. My other tent weighs 3 lbs but I get claustraphobic in it. Can't sit up or move around.
Funny thing is that years ago I had a Coleman tent that was used for backpacking with my son's Boy Scout Troop and had no problems with it. Yes it was cheap but worked great.
I wonder if the Temu version is a counterfeit. Similar design but modifications and cheaper materials. Could even be produced on the same production line in China.
Nice, now I can get all your data from my favourite darknet data dealer.
I bought a 1 person tent from Temu by Desert Fox for $50. I watched a review on it and thought it would be good for my BOB. It really is a decent tent, but I ordered the wrong one. So now I have to go thru the return process. I later noticed the same tents are also sold on Amazon for a few dollars more. I am not sure Team is worth the hype. I jumped on it for the price only without looking at other sellers.
A couple of months ago I ordered what looked like a Gerber military style sheath knife. I was surprised when I received it and the box said Gerber, had the Gerber logo, and said made in the USA. I paid less than 15 dollars and have seen the same knife at Walmart and on Amazon for 79 dollars. So far it's been a great knife but I haven't done any serious work or cutting with it.
I have sleeping mat from Grand Canion R 4.5.
I used that mat last winter in -10C and it was warm.
Price was about 50 dollars.
I believe this tent will be not so bad 😊
Grand Canyon likely pays a Chinese factory to make their tents, and the factory just makes more and sells the extras. Would be interesting to compare the Grand Canyon origional to this one. Possible that the Temu version is made with cheaper material.
just came across your channel by accident and heard the name Temu. I have been buying Temu products for about a year now and have been happily surprised by 99% of what I have purchased. I've bought clothing and lots of craft items and just fun novelty items. Had one problem with an order - two items were not correct with the rest - Temu covered the cost of the whole shipment and told me to keep it all. Not bad
Grand Canyon selling the "seconds" through Temu? Just a thought because of the loose threads and damage to the the mesh. 🤔
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Probably a great value for someone who only outdoor camps 1 or 2 x per year or for someone just getting into the outdoor scene.
This exact tent is sold here in Brazil by Nautika, by name NTK Windy 1. And costs 60 dollars. Here, its consideered by the local survivalists and preppers as a cheap escape tent.
USGI ACU Improved Combat Shelter, similar design cost about 130$ milsurp, I just bought a 30$ tent ozark trail from Walmart and it is a great tent.
This sounds like it may be a factory second being sold by a bulk buyer. For 50 some dollars doing some seam sealing doesn't sound to unreasonable. As for Temu I won't use them or Ali Babba or any other Chinese service.
I have recently made a few orders from teemu... mostly small cheaper items I couldn't find elsewhere. The delivery was very fast.. some items but only costing under €1 were junky plastic but the majority did what they said on the tin and good quality... and yes were third or less the price one would expect to pay elsewhere.
Their email updates were very efficient and itemized and if some things were going to arrive before others or separate orders bundled together they send an update email. And they credit you with €5 if any item in an order arrives after the stated arrival date..
That's an amazing price for something that works. I just paid $50 for a ground sheet for my litefighter 1 tent.
I have used TEMU for several inexpensive items for which I had no expectations other than a low, low price. Mesh bags, cheap sunglasses, yard shoes, etc. If you want three pair of cheap sunglasses for $10 and don’t care if they break or get lost, then fine. I bought some super cheap razors. Use two or three times and throw away. But like I say, they were cheap. That’s all I expect and I’m happy with that.
Lmmfao!!! Bruh said, "I'm sure they have a ton of garbage." It came out so "naturally" 😂😂😂
I bought a Eureka Backcountry 1. It's alot like that, just design. The backcountry by Eureka is badass, I've had for 15 years, and use every yr backpacking.
If I'm not mistaken, this is the tent Luke used in the video he uploaded previous to this one.
I've purchased 3 camp chairs from Temu that weighted 2lbs or less and held 250lbs +. We did have a failure of one snapping when the a family member started rocking in it unadvisably. The issue with Temu, like this video, is that there is one manufacturer for a product that gets licensed under many different names. The chairs I purchased were the exact same as several different middle men-esque company names. There are some good buys there if you don't expect the highest of quality.
I have gotten a bunch of temu camping items, no tents. tarps and other camping gadgets are great and cheap. Picked up alien rings, drybags, camp storage, lights, and other items for way cheap. If your not trying to buy high end knock offs you should be good. Bonus is the money saved.
I am completely addicted to Temu. I order all kinds if items every week. I have only been disappointed twice. One time it was a knife that was very tiny. Some of the kitchen utensils are tiny too. As long as I read the fine print showing size dimensions, it's good. Live and learn. Quality is no different then Wally world, only you cut out the middle man.
I doubt you will see this. However I recently purchased a Eureka Mountain Pass 3. It’s a convertible 4th season tent that can be easily used year round. It’s price is mid ($420 for the 3 man) and I’m pretty well floored. For the price it’s giving a solid run at tents way above its price point.
I think your pack may be interesting if winter camping on a budget is something they like.
I’ve bought hundreds of items from Temu. They are wonderful. Not one wrong order. They have good customer service. All my packages have arrived as promised. I love them
I would almost bet that the tent is an unauthorized Chinese knockoff of the Grand Canyon tent and that Grand Canyon knows nothing about it...until now!
It’s possible Grand Canyon sells their tents with imperfections wholesale to minimize loss. These may be the ones that didn’t pass the quality checks. That’s why they are good quality but many imperfections. They just can use the name to void trademarking issues on exports. 😊
If this tent is waterproof, I'm probably going to get one since it's cheap. I don't see many one man tents that would be practical for someone who is 6'2".
I just don't trust Temu.
You ain't the only one.
I bought from them twice but didn't download the app. The 2nd purchase I realised they stored my card details and since then I've had loads of spam emails...
Temu is cheap, because they force their vendors to sell at a loss to maintain the sites cheap prices, While Temu Keeps the profit
The crazy thing is, the wholesale cost of this tent is probably $20 or less. Temu is a Chinese company who has granted some exclusive rights to Grand Canyon in a specific region. The Chinese do this all the time. In other regions, they just sell the Grand Canyon marked product to keep from having to produce two versions. Hard to saw what GC will say, but that is the truth.
FYI ; TEMU says they have a 90 day return policy but they don't. If you wait 90 days TEMU will not except the return. The maximum allotted time to get in touch with TEMU is between 80 and 89 days and the TEMU as a company was setup to take out another online company. TEMU is a Chinese company as is ALIBABA. I can not remember the name of the online company TEMU was setup to take out though.
I agree **** nice tent*** not to bad****and it's actually better quality than my Coleman***
I have Grand Canyon Cordova, used it in Austria in Alps in a reaaaally nasty rain and wind, also in Slovenia on my way home to Croatia and I love it! I had seam seal ready in a case it's poor but all was good. I mean it was car camping and I tested it as a car tent to have on standby, not a self standing tent but really spacious, me and my dog had a lot of space! I don't like vestibule bot a single bit but as I said it's a tent to have in a car. I have cheap tarp in a car as well just to cover vestibule. All in all, 8/10, not including it was only 60€ on Amazon.
You made me laugh near the end until I had tears in my eyes Luke
I needed that today!
Best phrasing slip in history 😂! I rewatched that few times and laughed everytime!
It used to be "seconds" were sold on a place called NewFrog.
Any blemish and it became a second. Lots of names brand stuff cheap.
That not of seeing in the bottom makes it a second. They probably did dream tape it due to it already being a second.
I have a bear grylls cascade 1 tent I got years ago almost identical to that one but mine comes with aluminum poles, rip stop nylon rain fly, included ground cloth. I keep it in my bug out kit. Great tent.
How much was that one to buy ?
@@maryburger1232 I think I got it on clearance for around $75
It's sold out now on Temu...but it's 300 US on Amazon!!
I buy alot of stuff from Temu,for the most part I've been very happy,they had a aniversary sale,great prices,then a Good Friday sale,the sales are good prices,I bought alot of solar lawn decorations dirt cheap and really neat
Most social apps, including TH-cam, collect data from each user. If safety and security is an issue, stay away from all of them.
Hey Luke. You really have to be selective with items from Temu, as you can guess. Temu is a Chinese holding company, PPD, based in Boston. Their unique business model is buying directly from the manufacturers. I have actually bought items, gave them a poor rating and Temu has credited my account and instructed me to just "dispose of the item". In the middle of the garbage pile, you can stumble across a few diamonds! Lol
Thanks for the info.
Luke, I saw this video and got the tent. It does have the same issues you described and I went ahead and seemed sealed it’s fly.
I just rewatched your evaluation again and realized I didn’t seal the tie down stitching the on the tub not being seen sealed. I’ve have used the tent for three adventures. No issues with the tent. However it didn’t rain , so I don’t know if there’s a leaking problem. The temperature at Sly Park got down to low 30’s with winds gusting to 20’s and and the tent was comfortable . I will be seen sealing the tent floor stitching for next outing. I was wondering if you had done a rain test on this tent.
I enjoy your adventures!
You and Suzie rock !
Be safe
Last month I've camped for ten days in a Grand Canyon Cordova 1 - in the blazing sun and also in streaming rain. Absolutely no issues.
I use Temu but NEVER for anything important. My D&D Dice are ok but that 2k mAh powerbank arrived broken and when I opened it to fix it, it contained a single rechargeable AA-battery. My cooking pot was OK but the glow-in-the-dark tent stake rings were useless. You get what you pay for with Temu.
Maybe Grand Canyon is selling tents that don’t pass there quality control or factory seconds.if so for a little of your own labor to seam seal the tent than maybe you have a good tent at a big saving’s. If you seam sealed the problem areas before the rain test I think we would have a better idea if it is worth buying. Might be an interesting video to show people that they can save money and get out and camp with out spending a lot of money. I love your videos. Your help and expertise is invaluable in making smart decisions about our gear thank you for all that you do. Live free and stay safe
Very similar to the Mil-tec Recom (yes that's spelled correctly) which was a good little tent, but was too small for me in the long run so I ended up moving to the ICS
This geodesic style tent I have seen before, a company called Haven makes a 'hammock tent' that has rave reviews. It's similar in shape. Good video
Definitely made in a sweatshop. This is like fast fashion for camping.
Sounds like a great beginner tent that needs an umbrella! ☔️
I would say Team is selling 2nds. Didn't pass for inspection. That way they don't scrap it and you get a decent deal on the product.
Great video. My reservations about the tent are that it looks hugely bulky and at 2.2kg, listed on the amazon link, quite heavy for hiking.
Could this tent be a factory second or a blem?
You can only use the price point as a defense for a failure to deliver once or twice. If you say it enough times you eventually justify why a piece of fecal matter is only a hundred dollars. I wouldn't buy that tent for fifty dollars. I actually did find a fifty dollar tent that has all my boxes checked for what I consider desirable features all the way down to the toggles used to tension the guylines. The floor is about the size of a queen size bed, the aluminum poles practically put themselves together, the main tent clips to the poles without having to feed poles through sleeves and there are doors on both sides with vestibules at each. The sides are very vertical so you can sit upright almost all the way to one side and the whole thing weighs around six pounds. It was fully taped but I still applied waterproofing like you always should. If you half zipped the rainfly doors you would still be protected from the average rain storm and have spectacular ventilation. There are still openable vents near the top that you can open or close without going outside. I bought another tent that still has sleeves for the poles but it's like what was left in stock of an older design which was quite high end when it was new. It's tall enough to stand up and has a vestibule you can almost stand up inside giving enough room to change clothes or put your boots on or off. It's bigger and heavier but still reasonable to take with me on my adventure bike and it only cost me sixty dollars. Growing up I had a two man pup tent that was about fifteen dollars at the time and you can still get them but they're about fourty dollars now. You always had to treat them with waterproofing and it said so in the literature but if you did, they performed surprisingly well. Some tents have to be treated before use to be fair. I think if it says so in the manual, you have to treat them before testing and if it doesn't, you don't.
My first tent in the early 70's was canvas. My second tent was similar to this, tarp floor, etc. My third was a nice light tent.
The market is flooded with knockoffs, take airsoft for example... I'm all about saving money, but I typically buy direct or from reputable dealers...Temu is very questionable. I look forward to hear about your inquiry sent to Grand Canyon, but would also like to see a side by side comparison should you purchase a Apex 1 directly from them or by a reputable dealer. Otherwise great content, keep sharing, and I'll keep watching/liking!
My guess why the company didn't respond is 2 fold... 1. They don't want to admit they sell their tents to Temu, which then sells them at half the price. 2. The quality issues you mention ( no waterproofed seams, and slightly damaged screen) and overall cheapness of some components, means they're selling the ones that don't pass the $100+ inspection to Temu, instead of to a Job Lot or Big Lots or other off price store.
The answer is always "follow the money". Some pencil pusher found a good deal with Temu and the company still makes money which covers the manufacturing costs without warehousing the rejects.
Maybe Temu is selling Grand Canyon's seconds- tents that don't pass inspection. That would explain why the logo is blurred in advertising.
I have alot of temu stuff. Most of it works good. Projector. Night vision. Nick naks. Accessories for my kayak. Gas mask. ..only problem I have is a few of the nicknaks were damaged small parts. I used a bit of super glue
I once bought a Sears Coleman pup tent . 5×7 and I was a great little 2 man tent. withstood alot of storms in Illinois back I the 70,s and 80,s.
I have a locally produced here in WA state, backpacking tent, from River country.
All seams are sealed, tub floor made out of this plastic coated canvas material. Ive lived in this thing off an on for 3 years and its the best 60$ I've ever spent.
Its a 1 man bp tent, weighs close to 3 lbs and has enough room for me at 6 foot 200 lbs, my 105l keltie pack, a uswe bag i use as a day bag and a dog. Been some serious weather in this thing and its held up, ive had to re spray weather proofing once.
No way anything from temu would last a month in the real world.
River Country gear is made in China, my man. If it was US made "Made in the USA" would be splattered all over their website and product descriptions and it would cost 2-3x more than it does. They're trekking poles are generic rebrands. I'm not saying it's not good gear, and I would like to try one of those Trekker Palaces, but it's not US made stuff.
I would use mug as a toss away at a festival or event, but not as a serious camping tent.
I love Temu The mini square camp stove is great (3 inch square one) the mini mattress inflator, lighting all worth the cost.
When the manufacturer sells direct to you and cuts out the middleman it's my explanation for the dramatically lower price.
Spent $5 on temu for a 40oz Stanley tumbler and it's identical to my wife's real $50 Stanley. Both made in China.
the thing with temu is that they resell a lot of seconds and errors. scratch and dents, or just mess ups. GC knows, but I doubt they would admit it because those tents should never have seen the light of day
Just a caution for buying anything off Temu. Please, please, please, use a third party pay service that is not hard linked in any way to your account. Not a credit card or debit card.
Not sure if is the company or if they're just having security breaches. But quite a few people I know have had their accounts drained or run up after buying something off Temu. Hundreds of small purchases. Most were $10 or less.
Took me a few but tried temu and honestly I like them I been impressed with their stuff over wish and shien. From small items to clothes to some camping lights I got and stuff like that. Thanks for the reviews
Just because a website says £99 doesn’t mean it’s worth £99. It just makes the £50 sound more like a good deal.
I wonder if the manufacturing company that makes the rainfly decided to purchase, or acquire, spare or extra rainflies and carrying cases, and then build everything else about this tent themselves for super cheap. Cheap poles, cheap tent, cheap stakes, but lovely wonderful rainfly that elevates and completes the entire experience? Something fishy’s goin on…
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a reply from Grand Canyon.
"Thanks for letting it us know. You can try your original Grand Canyon by purchasing in any legal outdoor stores or on the official website."😂
I'd guess either: some seller got a cheap bulk wholesale deal on a bunch of Grand Canyon tents and is selling them below their MAP price OR the Chinese company that makes GC's tents during the day ran an extra run of them some evening (maybe with cheaper materials) & TEMU is selling these counterfeit tents. I suspect the latter is where a lot of TEMU crap comes from and this is the main reason I don't buy from them.
Very brave of you to purchase from Temu, but very informative. Thanks!