Hybrid V/S EV V/S Petrol - Which car to choose? | Should you buy EV now?
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Note - These numbers are to simplify your decisions, these are obviously not absolutely correct numbers. Though the cars taken are pretty on much similar lines.
The cost calculated for EV is based on the electricity consumption to charge the entire battery, based on which per km cost has been calculated.
Also, insurance cost and servicing cost vary from city to city, hence, they haven’t been taken into calculation.
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But over 5 years EV loses 70% value, hybrid loses 50% value and petrol loses only 30% value
Good point
Battery replacement cost to also be accounted
Over 10 years?
warrenty is like 8 years that ev will retain its battery at lesst for 12 years 70% then buy a new csr just like regulsr petrol
@@LtMewS no
EVs are NOT meant for long routes. If you are going on a highway and suppose you stopped at a charging station which has only 4 charging points, all are occupied and there are 4 more cars in the queue before you waiting to be charged. If one car takes minimum 2 hours to charge, you will have to spend 2x4 = 8 hours minimum to plug your car to charge.
No one tells this hidden problem. EVs are most suitable for city driving. Hybrids are better because they would allow you go on a long drive too.
Maruti will give 18-22 normal petrol and hybrid car 27-28.
In your dreams 😂
Gawaar ho kya swift aur brezza ka peak mileage 22-24 h@@abhiram.b8848
Wake up to reality @@abhiram.b8848
My 2014 swift gave 18 on highway& 14 in city
My Ritz 2009 vxi well maintained still gives me 19 km per litre on highway n 15-16 km in city drive.
Running cost per kms is not the only criteria for deciding which is most cost effective car, unless one gets car for free 😂😂😂
Jab EV ka battery change karengz to ek sath itna money dena possible nahi hoga so EV car sabse bekar hai kyon uska resale nahi hai aur battery jab new daloge time pe bahut kharcha aa jayega thik hai
Sister if per unit cost of electricity is increased and after 5 years the battery starts to decay. Then what?
For those arguing about battery replacement cost:
EV space is one of the most cash rich technology. Compare today's tech with 10 years in past, you will see same level of innovations in less than 2-3 years. I'm betting on battery cost to reduce 4 fold in 7-8 years in future.
Very true ❤
@@ShahidMd-qe6hp 100% incorrect.
BS. Lithium mining costs are going up, and supply is dwindling. Look it up.
Also Elon Musk himself said we have reached peak li ion battery tech, and we need a new breakthrough invention for battery tech to be on par with ice vehicles
Even if what you said is true, it will only bring EV on par with ICE and will not become magically better
Bro 5 saal me 15 lakh ka fuel bacha liya hoga. Gaadi ko free me bhi dedo company ko uske baad to bhi worth it he. (1.6 lacs km warranty 1.6lacs * 10rs = 16lacs rs) - 1 lac Electricity bill
@@BadatyaTapan Boss if u want to argue for the sale of arguing, then there is nothing to say. But if u want exchange information and learn and share from it, then
1. EV are the most polluting vehicle. For developing the battery in it requires massive mining and is very destructive to nature.
2. The battery will spoil some day. Battery needs replacement with it reaches 80% capacity. And this depends on how fast or slow it reaches there. It should generally reach there in 3 years time.
3. Battery replacement is ~50% - 70% of the cost of car value. This is abomb expense which cannot be avoided
4. Battery's energy density is very poor unlike that of fossil fuel. so frequent charging required this will lead to reaching the charging cycle fast. Fast charging is more dangerous & good manufacturers recommended that never fast charge but if done then next 4 cycle should be normal charging. It is only for emergency use fast charging.
5. Insurance premiums are quite high. Now gov may give some sop but in the long run (in 2 yrs time all sops will be withdrawn including taxes)
6. If u get into any repairs, all cars r expensive but EVs r more expensive.
Hybrids are no different. It is the same EV + ICE (mechanical car). So higher cost.
All tech r evolving very fast. Its no point buying them now because all these are not stable techs yet. Eventually it looks like H2 cars will be the future.
Electric car, not electronic as you said in the beginning. I hope you understand the difference between the two.
Yes. Sorry for the mistake.
That's ok
not a big deal bruh
Nit picking still exists
Not a big deal 🤡
Hybrid Is Perfect No Range anxiety.. Can Keep On Driving
EV is far better than Hybrid. Range anxiety is in the brain before you buy EV. You get faster chargers every 30-40 kms in 90% states of India.
@@pbnimje1 There is a catch here. If you are on a highway and you stopped at a charging station with 4 charging points, but 10 cars are waiting in the queue. If one car takes minimum 2.5 hours to charge, you will have to spend 2.5x2 = 5 hours. No one will tells this hidden problem. EVs are most suitable for city driving.
only in few cities
You won’t get it on highways and other local roads
Evs are only good for cities or if you want to up-down in the range of 100-130 km
I love the idea of hybrids. Byd has one that goes 2100km on a single tank of petrol and full battery.
Ma’am, you should have added CNG too, the comparison would have been completed.
True👍
Then they had to calculate time required in those long queues 😂 for refill
Here in U.K. is different
Electric is more expensive than fuel.
Hybrid is the best option.
My full hybrid cost only £47 for full tank and have an average range of 520 miles.
My friend have electric car before , £82 for full charge with an average range of 265 miles.
Now he replaced it with a hybrid same model as mine.
Most impressive part of this video is a lady with car knowledge, damnnnnn
Her good name????
Anyone!!??
Only running cost doesn’t help in deciding the choice. You have to take into consideration other factors like depreciation, repairing cost and in case of EVs, battery pack longevity and its replacement cost. If you calculate all these costs, you will see EVs are way more expensive. And with this you have to take into account the fuel availability network i.e. petrol pump network vs EV charging network. There are other points also but I cannot explain all the points in this short space. Should I make a video on this?🤔
Govt Electricity rate ×10 karegi ..mext 5 years main 😂
÷10 next 5 yrs, which gen r u budd
After 5 years the actual picture comes... hybrid is always the best
yep
electric cars have been out for a long time now and most of the cars lasts easily for 10+ years, Don't judge too early, Eventually you would also switch to EV , It would become the norm in no time
@@erwin1831 may be you r right ... but iam talking about the current situation...
Here are some points that you should think about
Most you can get out of an PLUG IN (the best type of hybrid) is around 15km so once you run out of power , your engine (which in most cases is nerfed ) has to carry the dead weight of your battery and also somehow work as generator for it so the performance ( long run performance not a zero to sixty drag) is automatically thrown out of window .
Plus it decreases your luggage space
And as the cars mostly available aren't built from scratch for such weight , it somewhere affects your handling (most are fwd with big battery box in trunk ) so best of luck for high speed corners 🫣
Ps also applied for CNG 😉
bro, what do you think about the price of Li-ion batteries in the next 8-10 years? will prices stay the same or be reduced?
What about in the future current bill per unit rises ? What if government plan to put a license fee on the electronic batteries or current units ?
Total Cost of Ownership includes invoiced value, insurance, regular maintenance cost. EVs are usually 30% more expensive than there petrol variants.
What about cng
After 5 years the batteries drop to 70% of original range. Buy petrol and avoid range anxiety. Waise hi life me anxiety bohot hai. Need more peace of mind than EVs
Please add cost of changing EV battery. If you add that whatever gain you have got will all be gone.
In Manipur electricity cost a out ₹9 per Kw/h
Dikhava hi karna h(trophy k tarah park kare rakhna h) :- petrol lo
Daily chalana h aur long trip karte ho- hybrid
Roz chalate ho aur chote(200km k andar) trip karte ho! Lamba nahi jate - ELECTRIC.
Electric cars insurance is higher , electric cars take a long time to recharge so requires planning , electic car charging is not possible for people in flats , electric car resale value is still not clear , electric cars modification is restricted, and future cost of electricity can also go up . Always remember car is a depreciating asset.
I think you have a electric car 🫡 you know alot of cons.
@@Upsurge_club 😎
Solar recharge. Lithium deposits in Madhya pradesh Kashmir too. Nno need to panic batteries price will decline
Please tell us Where is bio ? I can’t find it
What about resale value? is it considered in counting cost of ownership?
Where is the excel sheet ?
Running cost willbe calculated for EV must include battery price...
Excel sheet?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RW-pg1UHNcS9pNT1xAHZY4N_5tVYaU_5HWwM_nCCKLo/edit
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Ev per km 1 ruppe
Petrol per km 10 rupee
Diseal per km 8 rupee
But for this advantage we need to run 1lakh km , because , ev cost exactly double of petrol
Car loan in interest cost?
Diesel watching from the corner😂
Ev for Only 5 years . battery price of ev is half of the total vehicle price.so after 5 years ev cost near to petrol car
everyone forgets about the maintenance cost of the vehicle and other auxiliary costs, we have to decide on overall life time cost for 10 or more years. capital expenditure, fuel, maintenance, charges by govt etc
ICEs are still the best options in
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Comparing ’same car with different variant’ leaved the chat.😂
(See pic in video start for better understanding)
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Battery replacement cost v add Karo dd
Opening sheet it's always says . ...no result available???
Ye enginer hai model ?
there is a reason why PHEV (plug in hybrid) cars are sold very costly. coz if they were below 20lacs, they would kill off the ICE and EV market.
imagine you have a PHEV, you can charge it at night on a regular house outlet. then this car can run upto 50km on pure EV mode.
this is what most cars are driven daily (esp in mumbai). also once driven to office, they can again be plugged to a standard plug at office parking spot to charge it again, so one does not have to use the ICE ( internal combustion engine) at all as long as distance is low enough.
now if one has to go for longer, the ICE engine kicks in and one can refill petrol anywhere.
best of both worlds.
now those saying car would weight a lot more, pls know that weight of an hybrid car is on par with weight of an EV car with its huge EV battery.
👌..true Bro..why PHEV cars are not sold in large numbers? Heard still there is no such car sold in India
PHEV needs more parts (both ICE and EV drive train), hence costlier. Plus the efficiency is lower than EV because it can not regen brake as aggressively as an EV due to small battery.
@@isotropicantenna there is not much diff between a hybrid and a PHEV, just 2, a bigger ev battery and charge point. And sales of hybrid in India are skyrocketing even without subsidy. Phevs has an ev mode which hybrids lack and that can actually qualify for subsidy. Rest of the advantages I have already explained. India is a huge country and we really cannot have etc charge point all over the country
Ideal is to have charge point in cities where phevs will use and run as EVs. While they will run as ICE cars in between cities without having range anxiety
@@prasannask8320 Battery and On board chargers are no cheap parts. Even though EVs have a huge cost of battery, they do not have the complicated parts of ICE, saving manufacturing cost over an Hybrid. There's a lot of extra baggage needed with IC engine to meet emission norms.
Currently parallel hybrids like Grand Vitara are more expensive than EV. In future if tax on EV is increased and on Hybrid is decreased, EVs and parallel hybrids will be competing in the same price segments. Series and PHEV will probably remain more expensive.
Given PHEV and EV costing the same and the lower running cost of EV over PHEV on long routes once Fast charging network catches up, PHEV will lose the advantage.
I estimate at least 60 kW fast charging is needed for EVs to be viable on long routes ie 100km of range in 15 minutes of charge.
@@isotropicantenna you really think an EV battery is easy to make ? are you aware that depending on region, EV battery needs air /water cooling or heating.
anyways my point is simple.
India has huge population spread over a vast area, in contrast, countries like Canada, Australia, even Russia has concentrated population pockets which are like 5% to 20% of the whole area, rest is inhabited, so they can afford to have EV chargers in those concentrated population pockets, Europe is similar, its land mass isn't that big and their population is also concentrated in dense pockets so for them , building EV points isnt a problem.
secondly, nowadays new mobiles come with fast charging, those mobiles dont last long ie the battery capacity degradation rate is higher . but since most mobiles are changed within 2-3 years, we dont care.
but cars wont be changed so frequently so having a faster charger willnot bode well for the longevity of the EV battery.
Excel shet kha hai
In this for long term just the HYBRIDS make sense !!
In US, EV demand is going down.😊
Hybrid and patrol is best, because i like to hear the sporty exhaust sound of my car, when i'm driving,, voom,vooom,voom.😂😂😂.
If everyone owns an EV, Electricity consumption will go up and per unit cost will increase. If the people switch to EV fuel demand will decrease and then you would see new petrol prices and tax will be reduced. Only time will tell. Wait and watch.
The way to reduce carbon footprint is through using EVs. What the country is doing right now, is reducing the use of other sources of electricity and penetrating more in solar.
@@Upsurge_clubcarbon footprint is increased in the production of evs
@@zonejvm yes but fuel prices prices will increase highly throughout the years
@@So_CR_7 and so will electricity
@@zonejvm Yeah and ic vehicles are made from banana tree
Hybrid is better. Electric car battery needs to be changed which comes to 40percent of vehicle.
As if there is no need to change battery in Hybrid cars
You cannot depend on electric cars, it's an extra car you can purchase for city driving. It means you need 2 cars
@@bhatnagarmb there is, but are you seriously comparing the small capacity batteries of a hybrid to a large heavy EV battery?
Factor in maintenance costs.. including servicing at local mechanics which may not be so savvy with ev and hybrid
Cost of maintenance? Imagine changing the battery in the 4th year
😰
Moral of the story close your eyes 👀 and go for swift 2024
Thank me later 👋
Battery jab replace ki jaegi to poori car ka hisab smjh aaega😂
What about the battery replacement cost? People in countries like US and Europe are staying away from EVs after realising it
How to get access to excel sheet
Click on the link in the comment.
Beauty with brain..deadly combination..❤❤❤
We need to calculate maintenance cost for a year too.
Did you price in the commercial charging cost?
These are finger tip calculations. Done to explain the basic math behind the same.
Buy Toyota Prius driving since 2007 best Hybrid in History
Petrol - 16L, Hybrid - 19L, EV - 21L. We save money on the running cost but for that we are making 5L extra up-payment. For that, I can buy 16L and spend remaining 5L for my petrol.
What is resale value after five years, that's the main concern, EV resale will be headache n will go into scrap.😢
Muje to tum bahot pasand aai
You are missing battery replacement don't the line,
Wise one will choose hybrid cars....
Thanks for the excel ... very useful
"Electronic car" and "Electric car" are 2 different things. Electric car is a car powered entirely by electricity whereas electronic car is any car with electronic components
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Video ke Upar 3 dots pr click kro waha pr description ka option aayega waha mil jayegi excel sheet
We need to add service charges also. Petrol vehicle service will cost you around 7K for every 5000 Km
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Haa battery badalne ka kharcha to Aasmaan se aega
😊😅😅
Incomplete analysis ,petrol is well thought decision as hybrid and electri c asks for premium in the beginning and as they age battery replacement cost is huge for electric and hybrid is complex technology which will have more repairs
And wat abt battery change?
It’s not electronic, it’s electric.
Yes Sir! My bad.
One thing you didn’t include is the cost of maintaining EVs and hybrids, that is higher than a petrol car
Maintaining cost of EVs is pennies compared to hybrids and petrol.
What about the ev battery cost after 5 years... No one talks about it... 😢
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What about the intrest on investment of high value ev , you add that to
Does the excel sheet mention performance or zero local emissions?
Not really. Just simple fingertip calculation.
Link for Excel does not work. Please share updated link.
Hybrids are the best.... Dikkat govt ke taxation me hai... Jitna tax relaxation EVs ko mila hai uska Aadha bhi agar hybrids ko mil jaaye to Unki cost bohot niche aa jaayegi.... 16 lakh ki hybrid car araam se 13 tak pahunch jaayegi .. to log definitely hybrid hi lenge... and sbse bada advantage Hybrids ki battery replacement me hain... bohot chhoti (0.75Kw) battery hoti h inme jiska replacement bohot sasta pdega .... (Around 8000-10000rs)......
Where can I buy that electronic car 😢😢?
Add solar at home and then boom 😅😅😅
Cng ?
In Current Scenerio Petrol and CNG best option for 90% People.
If your running is more than 100km daily then always choose EV. (Nexon, Tiago, Tigor segments because higher cost EV's not VFM.)
CNG is much better Option for long running instead of Hybrid and EV for long term.
hybrid is best
its simple, if you're buying small cars hachbacks, mini suvs go for petrol/electric
if buying big cars, try going hybrid
Madam ji higher insurance cost, higher road tax, FV of money and resale value of car after 5 year bhi consider kar lijiye, khud maloom chal jayega ki Petrol car is the best option currently. There are other factors as well.
Where is the excel please help
click three dots > description
Electronic cars🫡🫡
🗿🗿meanwhile maruti suzuki ecco gives 35milage on cng with ac on and give 25+milage on petrol🗿🗿
Electronic car kia hain
But what about after 8 yrs ev car value
Hybrid is the winner according to me. EV comes with Range Anxiety
I am new on this planet
Can someone please explain me
"What are hybrid cars??"
Bhai hybrid means mix of electricity + engine
@@vlogpoetryrs398 thanks 🙏
And when you go to sell your electric car after 5 year you gets peanuts😂
Hybrid is better
I m not concerned with SUV , I only focussing to be legend
What about battery replacement cost in future
Usse jyad pase bach jayenge 10 sal me 4 lakh km me boht paisa bachega two wheeler ev or best hai
Battery life of cars are almost 15 years
@@Upsurge_club its just 8 years for nexon, please get your facts straight before runing a propaganda
@@krishnachaithanyareddy8575 don't get confused with warranty and lifetime.Your ICE car gets usually 2-3 yr warranty that doesn't mean car needs to be replaced after that period.
@@_surya16 yeah but i don't think they will last more than 8 years, take example of mobile phones which get battery problems within 4 years
In the long run they are almost the same...
Lekin meri creta toh highway pe 18-21kmpl deti hai petrol me
When it comes to change the battery of EV car, whatever you saved so far will get invested in one go. Believe it or not EV is not very efficient as they claim.
What about Phev ? Or diesel PHEV ? Paying more for tech or paying more tax for diesel ? Which is better ?😅
there is no diesel phev
But ev and hybrid are big one time investment in a liability best is buy petrol used car and live well
Interesting perspective
Batteery cost