Guys i found Pansy grinding gyfin on his Tamer just now, I feel like I found that special page inside a picture book that matches the books cover. And he shared his blue gyfin buff with me >:D
Whats up Pansy? I hope you're doing well. Your video has been helping me. I have a question on the Under Gyfin, what's the accuracy you recommend? Thank you.
Hey man, doing well. How about yourself? For accuracy in any spot, it will vary from class to class. I would recommend using Garmoth.com's gear planner and inputting all your gear, journals, level and crystals. In there is a page which lets you check your accuracy at each major grind spot. You can mix and max consumables/build till you hit 100%. As a baseline though, I always ran double Jin Viper for the 40 acc and usually was enough. Some classes like Awk Witch I run 0 accuracy crystals. But I DO have all the journals and stuff complete so that helps a lot
Lowkey i got a girins tear not too long ago and rather than being excited to use it and put it on its just collecting dust, i'd rather have a durability on crystals and once that durability is gone the effects stop working and you would need crystals of a lesser teir to repair em
About the resistance crystals, are there any pair that are more important to get when you are learning a spot, floating/knockdown/knockback? Is it random what cc's mobs do?
I have hit a wall, why do you use Glorious Crystal of Gallantry - Olucas at gyfins? for the accuracy? I found gyfins to be kamasylvian mobs so unless I'm mistakin the human damage wouldn't work against them. Just super confused and trying to figure it out.
So generally with any class you want to stack your addons, any skill buffs you have and the innate crit rate of your commonly used skills to reach 100% crit. Some classes lack enough crit in their kit so they have to resort to using deathblow to reach 100% crit rate or close to it. While certain skills have 100% crit, other skills may only have 30%~ or any varying number. To optimize your dps you want to be close to 100% as possible on all of your main rotation skills
@@HaloEraser lol i lost a ulti macalod, and 2 rebels in one grind session. Tapped the tungrads to tet and it still felt bad. Stopped grinding for two weeks LMFAO. This is why you dont reply to discord messages while grinding as a succ ranger
so increasing back attack dmg will rise the overall dmg against those monsters more than boosting crit dmg? i play succ ninja like 90% of the time and plan to grind at gyfins until i reach lv 63 or 64 atleast. currently at 298 ap and 405 dp, but with nouver and kzarka. according to garmoth, with all of those crystals my dmg should be great, but i idk... maybe i would switch to back attack crystals, when it means bosses die faster and surviving is easier. succ ninja is a true master of back attacking, but even then, i mostly see atleast 2 or 3 mobs receiving only frontal dmg and slow down the whole hunt. i just prefer consistancy over situational dmg tbh, but i also thought the only upside of back attack crystals over corrupted would be the fact that you don't lose dp. EDIT: i'm aware of the fact, that we get 2x 12% back attack dmg, whereas we would have only 2x 10 and 1x+2 crit dmg, so 2% dmg increase less in total. but i don't know the math behind dmg calculations and 2% more dmg, while NEEDING to back attack every time just does not seem better to me, unless there is a higher dmg multiplier or a higher dmg base, those dmg increases can work with.
It's a bit class dependent. For most classes it's very easy to guarantee back attacks on the big dudes because they have a very long spawn animation and will turn around slowly to hit you. When they turn, you can use a quick movement skill to get behind them and continue the back attack combo (i.e. blockjump). It's not necessarily just 2% more damage, but rather it saves you skill casts when combo'ing the big dudes. If you save 2 seconds per statue because you don't need an extra filler combo, you can get a lot more trash. But, if you can't 1-combo them with back attack damage crystals anyway (like if you're playing Succ Maegu or Awk Witch or something), then it's probably better to run corrupted like Pansy suggested in the vid and go for killing all the side mobs quicker instead.
So the thing about back attack damage is you can guarantee getting 100% if you’re positioned well. Where as for crit some skills don’t have 100%. So at place like gyfins you have potential to do more damage. You can try it. At gyfin hitting ap cap and getting Kama damage will help boost dps too
well, i guess i have to test the dmg. if normal mobs will die anyways, maybe i try back attack crystals. as far as crits go, not sure if i miss some. of course, the big slow guys you can always attack from behind and i will do it. I just wasn' t sure if it is worth it to boost back attacks further. because the regular back multiplier will apply alongside crit anyways, but if there are monsters around you from multiple directions, you just can't stay behind all of them at the same time. this being said, i'm around 50 monster ap below the cap, while even running tet and pen narcs lol.
@@soramercury7074 The reason why you are below the monster cap is because you are running kzarka and nouver. A tet black star and a reform 4 kutum nets you 90 monster AP a pen kzarka and pen nouver nets you 20 monster AP. Get a kutum and black star for PVE. I run the back attack crystals to focus the big guys down the small mobs naturally die while I am back attacking the big guy. I'm 292 ap with tet BS and c7 kutum, tet distos, monster artifact with kama dmg sitting at 871 monster ap
Great ceystal guide. Thank you.
Thanks for the guide
Guys i found Pansy grinding gyfin on his Tamer just now, I feel like I found that special page inside a picture book that matches the books cover. And he shared his blue gyfin buff with me >:D
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Whats up Pansy? I hope you're doing well. Your video has been helping me. I have a question on the Under Gyfin, what's the accuracy you recommend? Thank you.
Hey man, doing well. How about yourself?
For accuracy in any spot, it will vary from class to class. I would recommend using Garmoth.com's gear planner and inputting all your gear, journals, level and crystals. In there is a page which lets you check your accuracy at each major grind spot. You can mix and max consumables/build till you hit 100%. As a baseline though, I always ran double Jin Viper for the 40 acc and usually was enough. Some classes like Awk Witch I run 0 accuracy crystals. But I DO have all the journals and stuff complete so that helps a lot
i really wish they would get rid of crystal breaking :')
Lowkey i got a girins tear not too long ago and rather than being excited to use it and put it on its just collecting dust, i'd rather have a durability on crystals and once that durability is gone the effects stop working and you would need crystals of a lesser teir to repair em
Might be a little late for thisd but what would you suggest to someone without a garmoths yet? like in the giants crystals what would i replace?
Buy the garmoth if you can grind in these areas and you go without garmoth you are trolling.
About the resistance crystals, are there any pair that are more important to get when you are learning a spot, floating/knockdown/knockback? Is it random what cc's mobs do?
So depending on the grind spot they might or might not have CC's. Definitely not random, specific mobs have specific cc.
how do you handle the +crit in the character sheet?
I have hit a wall, why do you use Glorious Crystal of Gallantry - Olucas at gyfins? for the accuracy? I found gyfins to be kamasylvian mobs so unless I'm mistakin the human damage wouldn't work against them. Just super confused and trying to figure it out.
For the attack speed/casting speed. Some classes scale with it much harder than others
Does it stack above +5? Also thank you for the response.
I don't think %atk speed/casting speed have a cap. There're alchemy stones which achieve higher numbers that endgame players drool over@@Born_Exposed
Oh, I thought it say +1 instead of +1%, thank you so much for the help. @@imPansy
What do you do about missing crit chance?
So generally with any class you want to stack your addons, any skill buffs you have and the innate crit rate of your commonly used skills to reach 100% crit. Some classes lack enough crit in their kit so they have to resort to using deathblow to reach 100% crit rate or close to it.
While certain skills have 100% crit, other skills may only have 30%~ or any varying number. To optimize your dps you want to be close to 100% as possible on all of your main rotation skills
just did an hour at gyfins, DC the last minute of the hour and lost my olucas. Nothing feels better than wasting an hour. :)
Sorry to hear man. That's what made me quit earlier this year.. had a black screen issue which cost me multiple rebelious crystals :(
@@imPansy That is why im scared of using my rebels. 2 bil a pop. no way
Put in a ticket. I think you get 2 or 3 a year? But you only have 72 hours to put the ticket in and they'll give it back to you.
@@HaloEraser lol i lost a ulti macalod, and 2 rebels in one grind session. Tapped the tungrads to tet and it still felt bad. Stopped grinding for two weeks LMFAO. This is why you dont reply to discord messages while grinding as a succ ranger
so increasing back attack dmg will rise the overall dmg against those monsters more than boosting crit dmg? i play succ ninja like 90% of the time and plan to grind at gyfins until i reach lv 63 or 64 atleast. currently at 298 ap and 405 dp, but with nouver and kzarka. according to garmoth, with all of those crystals my dmg should be great, but i idk... maybe i would switch to back attack crystals, when it means bosses die faster and surviving is easier. succ ninja is a true master of back attacking, but even then, i mostly see atleast 2 or 3 mobs receiving only frontal dmg and slow down the whole hunt. i just prefer consistancy over situational dmg tbh, but i also thought the only upside of back attack crystals over corrupted would be the fact that you don't lose dp.
EDIT: i'm aware of the fact, that we get 2x 12% back attack dmg, whereas we would have only 2x 10 and 1x+2 crit dmg, so 2% dmg increase less in total. but i don't know the math behind dmg calculations and 2% more dmg, while NEEDING to back attack every time just does not seem better to me, unless there is a higher dmg multiplier or a higher dmg base, those dmg increases can work with.
It's a bit class dependent. For most classes it's very easy to guarantee back attacks on the big dudes because they have a very long spawn animation and will turn around slowly to hit you. When they turn, you can use a quick movement skill to get behind them and continue the back attack combo (i.e. blockjump). It's not necessarily just 2% more damage, but rather it saves you skill casts when combo'ing the big dudes. If you save 2 seconds per statue because you don't need an extra filler combo, you can get a lot more trash. But, if you can't 1-combo them with back attack damage crystals anyway (like if you're playing Succ Maegu or Awk Witch or something), then it's probably better to run corrupted like Pansy suggested in the vid and go for killing all the side mobs quicker instead.
So the thing about back attack damage is you can guarantee getting 100% if you’re positioned well. Where as for crit some skills don’t have 100%. So at place like gyfins you have potential to do more damage. You can try it. At gyfin hitting ap cap and getting Kama damage will help boost dps too
well, i guess i have to test the dmg. if normal mobs will die anyways, maybe i try back attack crystals. as far as crits go, not sure if i miss some. of course, the big slow guys you can always attack from behind and i will do it. I just wasn' t sure if it is worth it to boost back attacks further. because the regular back multiplier will apply alongside crit anyways, but if there are monsters around you from multiple directions, you just can't stay behind all of them at the same time.
this being said, i'm around 50 monster ap below the cap, while even running tet and pen narcs lol.
@@soramercury7074 The reason why you are below the monster cap is because you are running kzarka and nouver. A tet black star and a reform 4 kutum nets you 90 monster AP a pen kzarka and pen nouver nets you 20 monster AP. Get a kutum and black star for PVE.
I run the back attack crystals to focus the big guys down the small mobs naturally die while I am back attacking the big guy. I'm 292 ap with tet BS and c7 kutum, tet distos, monster artifact with kama dmg sitting at 871 monster ap
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