El Pedregal: Dead Mall Gem In The Desert | Retail Archaeology
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- A full video tour of an amazing dead mall gem in the desert, the El Pedregal Marketplace in Scottsdale, AZ. This little dead mall is part of the Boulders Resort & Spa.
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I love me some FF3/6 music while watching a guy walk around a dead mall in the middle of a desert.
BlueThundah75
Kefka: "There's sand in my boots!"
;p
As soon as it began I realised the music was from FF. Super cool! Love the channel!
There's Lunar music mixed in too
fthetm also music from Ys Books 1 & 2
Perfect for Figaro Castle in the sand!
I love Arizona. A lot of people say the desert is ugly. But it's very beautiful. Hidden beauty. Sunsets are just breathtaking. The flowers in desert are pretty and every cactus has its unique shape with peculiar arm shapes lol. Too bad many people can't see past the dirt.
Those are the ones who don’t belong here.
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How sad, it looks beautiful and peaceful.
Architectural dreamscape turned retail failure. It is truly a spectacle, yet somewhat dated in appearance. I did enjoy watching the tour because in a way... I was simultaneously imagining a sort of time warp back to the 80's and 90's with moderate, well dressed patrons walking about the centre amongst an early evening sunset sky of red and blue.
"What happened here; we used to come here to eat in 10 years and now it's gone" ...
It amazes me why people wonder why some places close when they (and many others) haven't bothered to eat/shop at a place in several years Lol ..
Golias Malachi this is the best comment
Yeah I thought this was place was magical as a kid but my dad didn’t like taking us to places so I got older and forget about this place or where it was. I do hope they turn into a condominium I’d want to live there.
*cries irl through this video* i have lived in Scottsdale AZ since i was a baby and that mall was a huge part of my childhood between this and the toys r us video this channel has officially killed my childhood
Pman PAAZ what were some of the shops there? I spent my childhood in Scottsdale too, but never knew about this place.
@BriannaAddison there was a store that sold mexican stuff several art galleries that resturant with tables outside was a lunch resturant that sold sandwhiches and i think another apparal shop
The rock store in behind the B&J was pretty darned nice. Not as cool as Van's Pretty Rocks downtown Scottsdale, but fancier.
@@petermgruhn yeah i remember that
This mall is unlike anything I’ve ever seen! It’s crazy how something so unique can be forgotten so easily.. Keep up your good work! I love to see your channel grow and grow 🧡 Much love from Florida 🍊
astro bubbles his channel will grow more if people started occupying the moon 🌝
I remember shopping here before it was dead. I loved this oasis in our community. I hope it is resurrected someday.
That's a wonderful looking mall, kinda reminds me of something from a theme park. But it's a shame that malls go for utility over any personalty in their design.
BTW you totally need to use music from the CD-i version of Tetris in your videos, it would fit perfectly!
So glad to have Wi-Fi again. This was something I missed most.
Where did the Wi-Fi go?
looks like it would make a great farmer's market and food stall site
Few local customers, unfortunately. Very seasonal.
I like the soundtrack music that you picked out for this is very Tastefully done.
I was taken to this place my first time visiting AZ back in 1994 and I was so impressed! I have lived out here now for 20 years and had forgotten about this place for 15. I guess that’s why this place went dead.
Ahhh yes, love the Final Fantasy VI music, so many feels and memories...amazing video as always!
Immediately liked the video before I watched it. I always do, I’m never disappointed.
Interesting video about this mall. Some of the background music you chose is unique and absolutely perfect for a mall that appeared to be on the brink of Life Support. LOL.
What a shame. It's beautiful.
I loved the music you used in this. It sounds like it is from a video game.
Hahaha, only the best game: Final Fantasy
lightdark00 I also used some music from Phantasy Star 4 on the Sega Genesis, Lunar Eternal blue on Sega CD, and Ys Books 1 & 2 on the TurboGrafx CD. I love classic JRPGs 😁
Dumb question about that: Where did you get the tracks?
Oh wow I've been to this mall before! I completely forgot about it. I stayed at the Boulders resort with my family during march break in 2013 when I was in high school (don't go there, super expensive and very shitty for the price, my bathroom had carpet in it lmao!) and we went to a Mexican restaurant there at the recommendation of the hotel, and it was super super busy actually! I remember how noisy it was lol. I was kind of shocked when the video started and I realized this was that mall we went to only five years ago. I'm pretty sure the pizza place was open then and I definitely remember the Ben & Jerry's that was there. So crazy that its dead now, I wonder how the resort is doing these days. The resort felt like it was in the middle of nowhere, I can't imagine too many people aside from resort guests would have been going to that mall.
Some very nice, aesthetic colors. Music felt like some retro choices. Catchy tracks.
What a great looking mall...
Thank for the Valentine's day gift
I love how you have video game music playing as you explore places
Love the music choices in this video 😍
YES! I need my Dead Mall fix! So stoked when I see these on my feed! Neat looking mall shame it is still doing so terrible.
Inside, gossip , they may turn the retail spaces into rental condos
They do have what they call villas on site. Those are actually homes that the resort let’s people rent out and/or stay in.
*lets
Great stuff as always Mr. Erik! Thank you!
I drove up to this mall to see my friend Robert Lang play guitar on the stage. There were a lot of people in the courtyard for live music. I also remember a really nice kitchen store on the second level, and the bakery had an excellent cafe mocha.
ive lived by this place for years. Ive never been in it. I didnt even know it was a mall.
IF you know any of the old tenants like I do, they will tell you that the Waldorf Astoria owners at the time chased everyone off with over priced leases. Plus they said they really needed a robotic tram or connection with the resort so people could come and go without waiting for their people to come get them, since they are on opposite sides of the Granite Mount.
Don’t care for the Hilton/Waldorf/Biltmore. Not run well. The Biltmore Casitas are very dated and while the regular rooms are nice, they’re nothing to rave about. They had tons of mosquitoes in October with no Citronella candles or staff at the pool. Never again. Hilton has done a good job with the hotel here. Rooms have been redone beautifully.
I live in the area and used to go to the salon featured here. It was called salon Mila. They closed that location about 2 years ago( the original, I believe) but still have 3 others in the area. It’s sad what happened to this mall, but a mall can’t exist on nearly identical galleries alone and that’s kind of all it was toward the end.
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sunsets in the summer are probably so aesthetic 😍🔥💜
One of your best videos Eric - as we're freezing nice to see some sun 😎
Omg beautiful this and that underground mall is on my bucketlist of things to do.
Man this made me sad, after watching this video, this made me realize about my mall near me that is about to die. The mall was in Baton Rouge, Louisiana call the Mall of Cortana.i had memories about that mall.back like in 2007 or 2008,I’ll always get candy apple,go to sears,RadioShack,Chick-fil-A and JC penny and always go to gamestop to see what’s new to play.but recently I went to that mall like a week ago to buy shoes but the mall is kinda dead.There was no more candy apple,Sears,JC Penny,RadioShack but they still had GameStop but GameStop is dying too.nowadays I go to the Mall of Louisiana,but the Cortana mall will be a special place for my heart ❤️
I hope that you visit my mall if you want too.just saying
Cortana is in good physical condition! I'm really surprised that Baton Rouge can't support at least 2 shopping centers.
That mall looks so tranquil and beautiful... what happened to it? I would love to shop there and see what the performances were like. I really love the palm tree and cacti aesthetic. As someone who so far spent majority of their life in Northern Illinois, I'm fascinated with those plants as I've only seen palm trees once outside the internet when I went to Florida.
I love the designs of these outdoor malls you have out there in the South. We obviously can't have any of those were I live because of the brutal winters. In fact, we're finally starting to get out of the 20s as of this week as we had a nasty winter negative degrees and over a foot of snow. This is another reason why I love watching your videos because it takes me out of my cold area into a more temperate climate.
Cool video! I really liked the music. I kept waiting for the regulators to ride up. Certainly a shame to waste such a place. Idk- with a stage I thought maybe a cult could move in there. Hahaha the mnd wanders after third shift! Keep up the good work
Interesting overall mall design. I feel if anything, it would be a good place for offices to go into depending on if any businesses would want to be out there.
Also, as others have already pointed out, you have good taste in video game music, sir. I recognized a lot of the JRPG tunes throughout.
This is a beautiful mall!!! I love how you live in Arizona to explore, because I live here too! I swear I’ve stayed at that resort too..
Awesome video man!
That would be a cool ass airsoft or paintball map
I love places like this. It's like people just packed up and left one day, never to return. The art gallery didn't get the memo!
This music makes me miss the old Runescape.. time to log into the 2007 server lol.
I Love that type of Architecture, Beautiful place.
I just thought about this mall for the first time in years. When I first moved to Scottsdale 15 years ago, I sometimes went up there to wander around. It was already dying the last time I went there, which was probably 10 years ago.
Kinda makes me wonder if the resort plans to repurpose that space into something else (perhaps meeting rooms or a conference center or something) or demolish it and expand a new building or more rooms or something else. I wonder if they are not renewing leases to get everyone out.
My quick scan of the map suggests about 12 miles from the nearest interstate -- that's probably contributing..
On purpose. No traffic sound, not even airplanes. You can’t drive your car around. You travel only by golf cart or clean air shuttle. It has many hiking paths and, because it is a golf resort, it’s so green! Beautiful lakes. A true oasis.
You could say it was...
deserted.
Good choice of music for this one. Arizona has some cool looking malls compared to New Jersey.
Final Fantasy music is the first one. It's one of the overworld songs, I think.
if you ever get out to Virginia you need to check out the Patrick Henry mall. Its super cool because its largely a pretty retro mall but they added on new wings and restaurants to it. its definitely not dead, but its still super retro. One of the anchors, a Dillards, has this big glass front to it that looks straight out of the 90's.
Kinda reminds me of the Viejas Outlet Center in Alpine, CA.
I highly recommend it if you're ever in the San Diego area again.
I remember going here a long time ago for a Beatles cover show. I think the band was called Marmalade Skies.
This would be great to convert to residential as each store turned into an apartment.
Mister Hat Hell yeah. Id live there
Great Video! Sorry to see that this place is abandoned...The resort should turn all of the old stores into motel room or apartments.
The mall has a good look to it. Not that bad looking from the outside.
"What happened, I came here to eat 10 years ago?" That's an interesting quote, cause it answers its own question. Like when major places close down or go bankrupt. Radio Shack was the first one for me, then I stopped an though...oh ya I hadn't gone to buy anything from there for ages, then Sears, K-mart, so on. When you stop to think about it it makes sense.
That's a beautiful mall I would totally go there if it was open !
Looks like a really nice mall. It's surprising it went down hill with the successful resort and nice residences surrounding it. I was also surprised the koi pond was maintained. I would have thought a Brazilian blowout was the same thing! 😁
Good video. Interesting.
We just stayed at the Boulders this past weekend and they golf carted us over here for dinner. Why didn’t you mention and film The Spotted Donkey restaurant? It and its Cantina predecessor have been here for many years. We’ve been up here quite a few times since the early 90s and have had lunches and dinner there. We stopped at the gallery where the artist was painting at the window. The boutique is fairly large, carrying higher end purses, clothes ($149 for a skirt) and many other things than golf shirts. They had quite a few last season purses and wallets on clearance. The ladies were very sweet. Yes, we became customers. The phone to the resort was working. The cantina remains popular although the resort has two other nice restaurants. This mall was mostly galleries when we hung out there. But many art pieces, including jewelry, could be affordable. Same with the boutiques. We usually went to the cantina but the restaurants were high end, not lasting too long. I wasn’t thrilled with the bakery. The workers were never too friendly and there weren’t a lot of choices. I seem to remember the ice cream place was once Cold Stone Creamery. I never saw this plaza as really bustling. It appears that Some of the areas act as overflow meeting rooms for the many conventions. As you mentioned, Carefree/Cave Creek is a bit of a drive. They even get snow. We plan on visiting again sometime soon. The kids haven’t been to the cantina for a long time. One note: we’ve stayed at the Princess and other nice places. I would highly recommend the Boulders, especially with summer rates. It’s now our favorite. They push the cantina for dinner but I would love to see El Pedregal really come back.
Nice music selection!
I hope he posts the tracklist
This is a beautiful and interesting mall
Years ago El Pedregal was one of the few things to do in Carefree. Plus it was very remote(relatively speaking), Scottsdale Road was a 2 lane highway north of Frank Lloyd Wright, it was just about all desert till you got there. The area has really been built up in the last 20 years. Which I'm sure is the reason for it's decline.
It's too bad you were not able to capture the old Rawhide, but that was a bit before your time(at least on youtube). There is still a number of old sites around Phoenix, it will take a bit of detective work, since a lot of them have been renovated.
So, my extended family moved from Scottsdale in 1994. I swear as a kid on one of our spring break visits, we went to this place instead of the Satisfied Frog because at that time it was somewhere new or trendy . . . but I remember it mostly being closed when we were there in the evening. My aunt used to describe Carefree just as you did, Max!
Keep in mind, there wasn't a freeway in north Scottsdale, nor did Frank Lloyd Wright Blvd. exist. From the east valley it was a long trek to get there. From any part of town it was a long trek, but it was neat to go to the Boulders. The quickest way through Scottsdale was Hayden Rd. But it still took at least an hour to get up there.
Plus Carefree was the place where people with real money had homes. It was said Bob Hope had a house there, I can't verify that. But it was long said he did.
I guessDick Van Dyke did, too. I’ve heard there are a few rehab centers here due to the isolation and serene setting.
Rawhide’s move to Maricopa is its death knell. Not open to the public like it was. It’s mostly for private parties and music that pounds into Ahwatukee.
I prefer the jazz and vaporwave music, but I like your great video!
Pascal Schnyder I like that music too. I just didn't feel like it fit this place or the mood I was in while I was filming it. Because I had never been here before and I had so much access to it it felt very much like exploring in an old school JRPG.
I like me some vaporwave, but these old JRPG songs fit pretty well too in my opinion. Whenever I went to a mall as a kid, it was often to buy a new game, or at least ogle at some videogames. I particularly dig the new-agey CD music of games from the 90s. Remember when "multimedia" was the big tech buzzword of the time?
Nice landscaping
It looks great 😎
Such a beautiful place.
Ann Abbott it really is. The weather was beautiful while I was there too, I didn't want to leave LOL
This location would be a beautiful backdrop for outdoor wedding venues. It would be nice to have the stores cater to guests at the spa and to the venue a flower shop, decorations, gowns/tuxes etc.
I love the fountain
wonderful tour. there's a once dead mall here in Atlanta that has been renamed Fiesta Mall and it's now a thriving shopping and cultural center for the hispanic community here. I think someone should do a video on it. I go there sometimes and it's like visiting south america.
This is such a cool mall ;~;
This reminds me of Viejas Outlet Center
in Alpine, CA and that's a goldmine of a mall.
awesome music choice dude
Used to go to the concerts called carefree Sunday at elpedrgal the jazz bands were amazing not many shops were open about 6 years ago every one was there for the music and the 2 food places open
As a kid I thought this place was magical! But my dad would never take us back because he didn’t like taking us out so I forget the name and location. Cool I want to go before they completely close down. Reminds me of Sedona
What a shame this Mall is closed, it is beautiful!!!! I would definitely go there!!
It had alot in common with the Borgata on Scottsdale Rd.
Used to all the way up there to get my birthday ice cream at the B&J.
That final fantasy background music though 😂😂
This is such a cool space; it would be a great place for those unique boutiques that aren’t chain stores, the art galleries, a eclectic coffee shop, & restaurants. This looks like it had less chain stores. It’s a shame what’s happening....
That’s exactly what it was, boutiques and galleries. Didn’t have enough day to day needs to sell to attract repeat customers.
Great background music. Sad to see such a lovely kept mall so dead in an area where the affluent live in Arizona.
I only got to see this notification while playing Dungeons and Dragons. And I won't lie, I finished my game before watching this.
This place doesn't look like a mall. Hilton could easily expand the resort into the mall or turn it into apartments.
I was thinking the same. It would make a neat apartment complex.
We have a mall here in muncy pa, its doing ok and definately populated but some things closed. You can visit if u want to
can i ask the name of the music at the 11:00 point and the one after, please & thank you ? I really appreciate that you use midis in your videos. theres so much amazing music composed by some major unappreciated talent thats sadly become almost forgotten.
I truly wonder why they're not marketing this as office space. As fancy as it is it seems like a med spa or retail stockbroker would be interested.
Cool looking place. I bet it will look even better if you go back when there is some green on the trees.
February is one of the greenest months in this area.
That is green 😂 lol
What music is in the background? I really love it.
Why did this mall die out? Not enough people in the area? Another larger mall open up nearby?
Someone needs to buy it and lower the lease price and promote it like crazy!
If you want to see another place that looks very similar go to Estrella Mountain Community College in Avondale it looks like it was inspired by this mall. I don’t think you can film though but it is gorgeous built in 1992 with recent modern additions everything super well-kept and nice. A nice blend of traditional hacienda Pueblo style architecture and modern eco industrial architecture.
The Latin-style pan pipe music fits the desert setting well.
There's an abandoned School gym in my town of Seymour Indiana that every once in a while Fear Fair uses during October but there's places in there that u can't go tho
Nice final fantasy music
Honestly if those became apartments I would rent one out! They would make beautiful apartments.
The website shows that they conduct functions in the mall so that would be one of the reasons why its kept in perfect condition
Cool :)
Lived in Scottsdale since 98. Sunny place for shady people. The kind of person that can afford to live this far north doesn’t care much for public gatherings or retail shopping.. and they bail for 3-6 months at the first sign of our heat, while water and electric bills sky rocket. Ashler Hills just a mile or 2 south of this is a pretty dead strip mall too, but there’s a target and a Safeway holding it down. The snootiest of the snoots don’t care about the little man that was probably charged 3k/month in rent trying to slang gelato in here. Very fickle and superficial people, impossible to please let alone turn a profit on. Weird, but I doubt the ownership loses a wink of sleep over it. The location is worth it’s weight in gold
I'll agree I live in the Lone Mountain Area just south of this. I am from a multi-generation family of Arizonians and I cannot stand winter visitors myself. I SAY GO HOME! let this place revert back to the Real Desert; not someones opinion of what is should be. These people are obnoxious drive like there still is snow and ice on the roads. Most act rich until you meet people with real money and they don't act anything like these Snowbirds. They almost always say it would be nicer if it had trees and a lawn, maybe a lake or water feature too. I say that is what your Midwest Roots look like go back there if that is how you want to things to be. Leave the desert to the people that love it including the summer.
Great insightful posts, gentlemen!
I haven't been to Town And Country Shopping Center in a while but last time it was pretty dead. I remember the good ol days when Jutenhoops was there. It would be interesting to see a video on that sopping center for sure.
i think they pretty much tore Town and Country Down and overbuilt it.
i think they pretty much tore Town and Country Down and overbuilt it.
T&C was pretty lively when I was there with a friend last year, but it's all big outdoor boxes, right? We were shopping Trader Joe's.