"True Combos with ALL Characters! (Smash 3DS/Wii U)" "All the characters have moves that can make the opponents slide off platforms, EXCEPT for Robin." *came for Robin*
Sway N Tech evidence? all shit comebacks aside, he's pretty easy to KO if you're playing against someone who doesnt know what edgeguarding is. yet, playing with an actual person is a semi-challenge and just all around annoying and not funny either
As a Melee competitive player who's also trying to get into Smash 4, it's really funny to see other Melee players say these aren't true combos, almost as if they forgot that jab-resetting exists in Melee also lmaooooo
Vinson Games atick with Smash 4. I think u have a bigger chance og going pro. Pro melee players have played it in millions of years. Smash 4 is still young and u wont have as much competition + i think melee might die soon because of Smash 4
I'm glad you described everything needed to actually perform a True Combo, it really makes it seems much more approachable and less intimidating than it seems. Keep it up, and as usually, I've shared this with the guys over at /r/Smashbros.
On the subject of combos, I've noticed with Kirby that on most big characters it's really easy to string a short hop down air to an up tilt, and I can chase people across the stage with it. It's just great :)
Simple things like that can just be looked up on the wiki. I'd prefer videos like this. More in-depth things that require video and explanation. Teching is "press shield just before you hit the floor/wall/ceilling".
+Dani Hernández Gonzalez what do you mean nobody used it? Have you never seen any captain falcon player in melee ever? It was a huge part of his metagame. Jigglypuff and shiek are also huge characters who frequently use and benefit from the mechanic
Yeah, with all of the patches, these "true combos" likely aren't true anymore, and with all of the new discoveries, their are probably even stronger ones (bayonetta's entire moveset)
@@IGamingStation A: Certain aspects of these combos may have changed, but no patch ever made to 4 removed the main enabler (untechable fall animation from sliding off platform). B: Ultimate was out when you commented. How does a niche mechanic potentially having been patched out of Smash 4 affect you?
Robin can actually do it! Let the levin sword run out, pick it up, wait for another levin sword to maximize damage, short hop & throw the levin sword, use arcfire, & double jump into a forward air. From my testing, it does about 34-37% in total.
I like how every1 gave this guy so much shit that he had to make a video explaining what he said at the end of this video over again. sad that the ppl that try to help always get shit on.
BEFORE COMMENTING! Watch the whole video and read my comment. He said everything in this video was tested with REAL HUMAN PLAYERS! You can't DI, roll, or attack in these combos because of the mechanics in Smash 4 (sliding off a platform, tumbling animation, jab lock, short hopping, B reversals, other mechanics). If your new to Smash, watch his tutorial videos. DON'T PROTEST, because these combos are inescapable, no matter what. He even said and tested it. NOTHING RUDE shall be in this comment section anymore. If there is one, I will report. STOP DEBATING which smash game is the best and calling people stupid because they like that smash game. Everyone has their own opinion, and shouldn't be judged for it. Anyways, piece, and have a blessed day.
So i think robin does technically have a true combo in this fashion. If robins book (preferably his nosferatu book) hits the opponent they will tumble off the platform, from here robin can hit them with a arc thunder then followup with a leven sword fair which will leave the opponent at 31% or so. There are possible more followups that i dont know about but this does technically mean the whole cast has a true combo!
This must have taken forever to get all the labwork done. Well done! Really interesting stuff! Was this all recorded in 1.04 though? Do you know if any of the combos don't work anymore? (I'm looking at ZSS and Greninja mostly). And do you know if anyone has a better combo now (Ike maybe?)?
That was really helpful. I also liked the Mario combo on Bowser at the end, it´s so cool when you can spike someone with f-air without rushing into own demise.
Great Video! Most of this isnt really new to me. But you showed it pretty well! At most of these setups I would probably go for other moves in the end instead of charging smashes, to have even longer strings.. but I bet u tested alot and only went for the REAL TRUE stuff :) Well done!
Not to mention the 13 characters that are immune plus you have to get the timing almost perfectly and right next to the edge of the platform otherwise they could then dodge after getting hit and even if it works they could catch-on and figure out a way to dodge it and then perform a counterattack.
many of these arent the STRONGEST jab locks, but they're definitely strong jab locks. i've had some fun with true jab lock combos myself, and i can 100% confirm that i know stronger jab locks
Elian Hirang This was also really early is the game's lifespan and before any patches were released, so some characters aren't as good or better than they were before. Characters like Bowser and DK didn't have their combo throws yet, and characters like Falco and Meta Knight we didn't know had such great combos.
CookieGlob captain falcon has true 0 to deaths so yeah, im also able to perform them too, not in a competitive enviroment though because it takes lots of practice
Always love these videos. You put a lot of work into them and I appreciate that. Do you own a WiiU for that version of Smash? Hope to see videos using that version when it comes out.
How do you get the video quality to look so good for your 3ds image? I got a katsukity 3ds with fraps and I dont get no where near as good of quality as this video. Any tips?
Ambrose, were you active in melee/brawl too? Because it's weird I've never heard of you. Maybe it's just me who feel like I should know every smasher name lol, but I still felt surprised to see a new name making good in-depth tutorials so early. Channel is great, though. Love that initiative.
umm... can't you recover to the sides to dodge some of those? or the tilts/jabs keep locking the character from doing that? because I think a side-recover can actually avoid some of those combos before the last hit (which normally seems to be the smash attack or an special that sends you off, and a spot-recovery can work as well). I think I might be wrong, I haven't played that much...but I have a basic understanding of the game .. but idk :/
These combos seem really unreliable, but I guess they have the benefit of being pretty much guaranteed once you get the jab-lock down. I also like how you can follow up with combos that can be done without jab-locking, like Mario's up throw + up tilt + up air combo, or Sonic's spin dash + up B + up air combo (those two combos are awfully similar though). And none of my mains are safe from this combo... Sigh...
I'm not sure if you've ever done this, but jsut yesterday I saw this weird technique someone was using with ToonLink. Here's the weird part. They would use a bomb, throw it, then re-catch it immediately after throwing it all while in the air. How do you do that?
is thare a website dedicated to these small details im planning on to get competative whit smash. i have found some sites but none of them have things like this.
Super late, but in brawl, sliding off of a platform with your back to it forced a minimum fall time before you are able to tech. Assuming sm4sh does the same, floatier characters dont fall as far in this time window, so they can tech or do something to avoid a lock.
I've got some ideas: 1:37 Wind up the move 10 times instead of completing the charge. 2:28 Plant a tree before the combo and cut it down to end it (Or perhaps use the Pocket with a tree in it or something). 2:32 Get a misfire (I don't know if it's stronger than the sweetspotted Up-B or not :p).
Curious as to why you did not use Zss's laser to set up the Jab Reset I understand F-tilt does the 7% while charged laser was around 4-7 or something, So like you actually could have done laser ( OR charged laser now that Nintendo Stealth nerfed charged laser) ->drop down uncharged laser -> buffered fox trot over -> buffered down smash (As they are on the ground and unable to be restunned for extra %) -> another downsmash which depending on how fast you are or the circumstances might or might not need charging, -> either The fsmash you did Or Up b (obviously can be DI'd) OR extremely positional/character based pivot grab -> back throw to down special kick spike.
+The Kid Yeah, He actually does have a Jablock though. Its just stupid and Impractical and you will never be able to use it. XD You have to jump up over them and throw a book down at them. :T So... you wouldn't be able to do the aerial attack to knock them off the platform in the first place, since you'd have a book in your hand. You can arcthunder them and then foot stool them out of that and then throw a book down at them to jab lock but its reeeeeeeeeally hard to follow up. I've never been able to do it in a serious match.
Okay, this may get a little off topic, but... I totally rekt my friend in Smash Bros with Jigglypuff. So my friend Noah wanted to 1v1 me at school (3DS) and I accepted. It went out pretty slow, but the 2nd Stock I took from him was basically the most beautiful stock I ever pulled off to a human player. If you think he is a noob as well, or he wasn't in the zone, he plays like an Azen; smart choices. It wasn't with a platform mechanic either. It was basically me beating the living SHIT out of him.
***** Your post was 5 months ago so your skills back then are noobs XD, but you probably have improved a lot. Me right now can play better than ZeRo in Apex.
Vinson Games Yeah, we were noobs. That is true. But it's also true that I improved. The main reason why I improved is because I fought False, and I was complete TRASH compared to what I am. That was a month ago. I still have a long way to go, but I'm getting there.
I know i'm 2 years late. Vinson do you have such a big ego that you think your better then the number 1 player ?It's quite sad to see someone say such a statement with no proof i doubt your better then zero.Tbh i only made this comment because what you said just ticked me off
For certain characters, is it possible to grab-pummel release them off of the ledge so they slip off? Actually, the recovery from that would make it difficult to follow up with too, huh?
Am I the only one who gets triggered when someone talks crap about the 3DS version? I know it's kinda dumb, but in my opinion both games have their own quirks and WiiU players always feel so superior. Of course, I will never criticize someone for down-talking Sm4sh 3DS, just get mad.
Would that Marth combo not work if you tippered the jab reset? I was thinking that if you tippered it, there'd be to much knockback and the other player would be able to escape.
I found that Shulk can start air combo's on heavier characters. You would just grab throw up and air slash. Do you think there is any potential? I have no clue because i'm literal shit at air combo's.
1:03 On Triple D's jump, was it a high jump or a half/low jump? P.S And thank you for using Kirby as your logo, finally someone else who admires Kirby.
What about projectiles and locking? For example, even though Robin can't lock, all his discarded items can initiate one on ledges like in the video if they hit right. Is it true for all projectiles?
45 of the Omega maps don't have any platforms. Do you have a video planned to show off a lot of new true combos (Since VI has been removed) on stages without platforms? Your new banner looks very nice :]
If you do Throw or Smash your opponent and he doesn't jump in the air or tech on the ground then you can actually jab-lock. But the chance he wouldn't do either of those is veeeeerry slim.
Funny looking back on this video and seeing these combos. Most of these probably could've been optimized to death with all the tech we've started implementing into gameplay like footstools becoming common, perfect pivot combos, and even patches. I love how far we've come :)
Looking for people that don't know what a jab lock is.
same
yuo
So am I LOL
as well
already did, broke my ctrl and v keys doing it
Where's Falcon Punch to down taunt?
+The Sailor Inkvader We're waiting.
+The Sailor Inkvader Where's the original joke?
+4klicksphilip Where's the salt for no reason
+Pk Ness When you get destroyed on FG?
+4klicksphilip when you expand dong?
4:45 - Bowser
2:44 - Bowser Jr.
2:53 - Captain Falcon
2:59 - Charizard
4:01 - Dark Pit
1:43 - Diddy King
1:36 - Donkey Kong
3:25 - Dr. Mario
1:19 - Duck Hunt Dog
3:09 - Falco
3:04 - Fox
4:48 - Ganondorf
3:37 - Greninja
3:43 - Ike
1:49 - Jigglypuff
1:03 - King Dedede
2:38 - Kirby
2:07 - Link
0:45 - Little Mac
0:52 - Lucario
3:52 - Lucina
2:32 - Luigi
0:56 - Mario
3:47 - Marth
1:07 - Mega Man
3:30 - Meta Knight
?:?? - Mewtwo
?:?? - Mii Brawler
?:?? - Mii Gunner
?:?? - Mii Swordfighter
4:32 - Mr. Game & Watch
1:24 - Ness
4:46 - Olimar
2:23 - Pac-Man
4:19 - Palutena
3:57 - Peach
3:14 - Pikachu
4:24 - Pit
1:56 - R.O.B.
?:?? - Robin
4:16 - Rosalina & Luma
4:10 - Samus
1:14 - Sheik
4:28 - Shulk
2:17 - Sonic
2:12 - Toon Link
2:28 - Villager
1:31 - Wario
4:41 - Wii Fit Trainer
4:05 - Yoshi
2:01 - Zelda
3:20 - Zero Suit Samus
Thank you for this.
because there totally isn't a description or anything.
eXinX I don't believe the description contained this information at the time. Take your sarcasm else where.
"Mewtwo ???"
Shulk Illuminati
E. Trafford had it in there
Peach's was the best
Ass
Bitch Slap
Frying Pan
Brendon Nguyen
I gave him 'Like' number 70
"True Combos with ALL Characters! (Smash 3DS/Wii U)"
"All the characters have moves that can make the opponents slide off platforms, EXCEPT for Robin."
*came for Robin*
YOUCH
I wish you could play Battlefield in For Glory online. I hate that it only lets you play on Final Destinationized stages.
little mac would be balanced in for glory if that was so, i agree
medic Little mac is balanced in for glory, what are you talking about?
LaCaja ha
haha
*thats a funny one*
medic What's really funny is that you don't know how to beat Little Mac.
Sway N Tech
evidence?
all shit comebacks aside, he's pretty easy to KO if you're playing against someone who doesnt know what edgeguarding is. yet, playing with an actual person is a semi-challenge and just all around annoying
and not funny either
Someone had to do this. I guess I'll be that person this time.
Little Mac 0:45
Lucario 0:52
Mario 0:56
King Dedede 1:03
Mega Man 1:08
Sheik 1:15
Duck Hunt/Duck Hunt Duo 1:19
Ness 1:25
Wario 1:31
Donkey Kong 1:37
Diddy Kong 1:43
Jigglypuff 1:49
R.O.B. 1:56
Zelda 2:02
Link 2:07
Toon Link 2:12
Sonic 2:18
Pac-Man 2:23
Villager 2:29
Luigi 2:33
Kirby 2:39
Bowser Jr. 2:44
Captain Falcon 2:53
Charizard 3:00
Fox 3:04
Falco 3:09
Pikachu 3:14
Zero Suit Samus 3:20
Dr. Mario 3:25
Meta Knight 3:30
Greninja 3:37
Ike 3:43
Marth 3:47
Lucina 3:52
Peach 3:57
Dark Pit 4:01
Yoshi 4:05
Samus 4:11
Rosalina & Luma 4:16
Palutena 4:20
Pit 4:24
Shulk 4:29
Mr. Game & Watch 4:32
Olimar/Alph 4:36
Wii Fit Trainer 4:41
Bowser 4:45
Ganondorf 4:48
Robin 4:61
You're welcome.
TrippyToad Or you could have just read the description
When this came out, there were no timestamps in the descriptions. I was even credited for writing them down.
TrippyToad My bad didn't know that
It's all good.
People who do these things are who carry our society. Thank you, good user.
As a Melee competitive player who's also trying to get into Smash 4, it's really funny to see other Melee players say these aren't true combos, almost as if they forgot that jab-resetting exists in Melee also lmaooooo
xD
But in melee you could only lock them once. In smash four you can lock them three times.
Teleporting Fat Guy still the same concept 8)
Yes
Nico Yazawa meh
Vinson Games atick with Smash 4. I think u have a bigger chance og going pro. Pro melee players have played it in millions of years. Smash 4 is still young and u wont have as much competition + i think melee might die soon because of Smash 4
Captain Falcon has another true combo. It is: Reversed Neutral B into Down taunt.
Or, Forward-Air into Down Taunt into Down Special of the stage into Lose A Stock. It's True and works on the entire cast.
*off
+Rick Sure Therefore Captain Falcon has TWO true combos?!? Captain Falcon top tier confirmed? :O
Luster Cool YES!
Luster Cool I MEAN "HYEEES!"
I'm glad you described everything needed to actually perform a True Combo, it really makes it seems much more approachable and less intimidating than it seems. Keep it up, and as usually, I've shared this with the guys over at /r/Smashbros.
Thank you.
this comment is marked as spam for some reason :/
ThePharphis TH-cam started marking random comments as spam, what a new feature! :D
ThePharphis Or maybe because you came from reddit lol.
Sol64 I did not. Is this some tool to deal with high volume messages from a single source link?
On the subject of combos, I've noticed with Kirby that on most big characters it's really easy to string a short hop down air to an up tilt, and I can chase people across the stage with it. It's just great :)
3:51 Is there a reason that Pit sounds like a chicken...?
He 13 years old give him a break, maybe he is still going through puberty?
The Empty Doctor He's >20 yrs old
Actually, hes about 40 or higher years old.
XepherPlays About 43 years old?
SidTheEpic maybe, his age isn't canon, but pit's pretty much immortal
You should remake this video
AqUa iGamer Yes he should. He should also include the DLC in the remake since they're in the game now.
AqUa iGamer And Miis too just cause.
Or...since we know about these, you guys could do these yourself.
He should sinse wario could after the up air do a footstool and repeat that till kill percent with waft
Do a video on terms for newer players like meteor smash, tech, etc..
Or old players trying to join the competitive scene
I'll keep that in mind.
ZERO already did that... pls Smash Corner keep with this good stuff
While it doesn't have all terms, it has blast zones, wave dashing, and all that stuff that people talk about a lot.
Simple things like that can just be looked up on the wiki. I'd prefer videos like this. More in-depth things that require video and explanation. Teching is "press shield just before you hit the floor/wall/ceilling".
I still find it funny how some people still don't know about Jab Locking/Reseting XD
Ikr, lol at the dumb comments below
that's because this video was made early in the games meta. jab locking is much more developed and known today
dude. IT WAS IN MELEE
yeah it was in melee but no one used it. Its was in brawl that reseting was a common technique since u could reset infinitely.
+Dani Hernández Gonzalez what do you mean nobody used it? Have you never seen any captain falcon player in melee ever? It was a huge part of his metagame. Jigglypuff and shiek are also huge characters who frequently use and benefit from the mechanic
Man... this is so old. Looking at the combos that were considered "optimal" then and what is now and such is mindblowing.
Ethan Schmidt well patches also change the meta
Wait these were, OPTIMAL?!?!!?
Yeah, with all of the patches, these "true combos" likely aren't true anymore, and with all of the new discoveries, their are probably even stronger ones (bayonetta's entire moveset)
@@leofont6026 These combos were patched? FML
@@IGamingStation A: Certain aspects of these combos may have changed, but no patch ever made to 4 removed the main enabler (untechable fall animation from sliding off platform).
B: Ultimate was out when you commented. How does a niche mechanic potentially having been patched out of Smash 4 affect you?
looking at this video in 2017 and im just looking at how much our punish game has evolved.
What about roll to limit to roll to limit to roll to limit to roll to limit to finishing touch?
On cloud
Robin can actually do it! Let the levin sword run out, pick it up, wait for another levin sword to maximize damage, short hop & throw the levin sword, use arcfire, & double jump into a forward air. From my testing, it does about 34-37% in total.
And what player have you fought who lets you keep two levin swords?
+Yin-Yanged Gamer kirito because he respects dual wielding
***** but robin does'nt even dual wield that way
well sorta
+Yin-Yanged Gamer He meant that while you carry the broken Levin Sword, you wait for yours to regenerate.
Your channel art is adorable.
It's great to see someone go through all of this trouble to make such an informative Smash video. I can feel the passion :D
I like how every1 gave this guy so much shit that he had to make a video explaining what he said at the end of this video over again. sad that the ppl that try to help always get shit on.
*shitted
Oh wait. . .
BEFORE COMMENTING! Watch the whole video and read my comment. He said everything in this video was tested with REAL HUMAN PLAYERS! You can't DI, roll, or attack in these combos because of the mechanics in Smash 4 (sliding off a platform, tumbling animation, jab lock, short hopping, B reversals, other mechanics). If your new to Smash, watch his tutorial videos. DON'T PROTEST, because these combos are inescapable, no matter what. He even said and tested it.
NOTHING RUDE shall be in this comment section anymore. If there is one, I will report.
STOP DEBATING which smash game is the best and calling people stupid because they like that smash game. Everyone has their own opinion, and shouldn't be judged for it.
Anyways, piece, and have a blessed day.
+FurryGirlSylvy *peace
I agree completely
*Insert rude comment here*
PK FLAH!!! How is the comment rude?
+MasenkoDX "NOTHING RUDE shall be in this comment section anymore. If there is one, I will report."
You forgot that Ness true combos pk fire into pk fire.
Pk fire true combo's into f-smash and grab right? Then down throw true combo's into fair which true combo's into fair which true combo's into fair.
You can just DI
teh EPICATOR Nope. He said he tested it with his friends.
AnnaTheBestWaifu Nope, he just tested it with his friends. You can't get out of those combos.
+FurryGirlSylvy no I mean if you just spam pk fires instead you can DI out of it, I'm not speaking of the combo shown in the video
So i think robin does technically have a true combo in this fashion. If robins book (preferably his nosferatu book) hits the opponent they will tumble off the platform, from here robin can hit them with a arc thunder then followup with a leven sword fair which will leave the opponent at 31% or so. There are possible more followups that i dont know about but this does technically mean the whole cast has a true combo!
You might be able to do another fair if your fast enough which will leave the opponent at about 43%
This must have taken forever to get all the labwork done.
Well done! Really interesting stuff!
Was this all recorded in 1.04 though? Do you know if any of the combos don't work anymore? (I'm looking at ZSS and Greninja mostly). And do you know if anyone has a better combo now (Ike maybe?)?
Tried most of them on 1.04 too, and they work. That's the best Ike can do, as far as I know.
My Smash Corner Good pun
what if both me and the opponent or on the top platform, can i do this on one of the mid platforms then again on the stage
baby mariods Yes
Mario did it
how you make that comment?
I just love (and sorta saddened) that Robin is almost always getting the short end of the stick
That was really helpful. I also liked the Mario combo on Bowser at the end, it´s so cool when you can spike someone with f-air without rushing into own demise.
Back in my childhood doing things like this got you brutally clubbed with a controller!
It's a shame Jigglypuff's forward tilt stops locking after low-mid percents (like 30%). Now she has no guaranteed setups into a rest kill
:(
+Zelda Craft You can jab lock with down smash, although it's basically useless
at kill percents?
It jab locks at 999% the only problem is it sends the opponent way to far for a follow up. may be useful in teams though
+LittleSugar89 yes, but they aren't very easy or practical compared to brawl and Melee
+Zelda Craft yes there is. Like the crouch setup
Awesome stuff. Looking forward to what you upload next.
Great Video! Most of this isnt really new to me. But you showed it pretty well!
At most of these setups I would probably go for other moves in the end instead of charging smashes, to have even longer strings.. but I bet u tested alot and only went for the REAL TRUE stuff :)
Well done!
I remembered this video last night. Dude how much I miss these times...
Same
Smash 3DS was the first smash game I played, this shit brings nostalgia 👍
We need an updated version of this video. Or a part two. Something like that.
Sugar Worms I completely agree.
Not enough Cloud. 7.8/10
+da dave dude not again
;)
True
cloud wasn't out
@@jahz4421 woosh
5:00 It would've been oerfect if you would have edited a tear on robins face
*perfect
Looking back now and seeing how unoptimized these combos were makes me greatful for the current meta
Noah Francis yeah you are right
there are no bayonetta combos
feels bad lol
Not to mention the 13 characters that are immune plus you have to get the timing almost perfectly and right next to the edge of the platform otherwise they could then dodge after getting hit and even if it works they could catch-on and figure out a way to dodge it and then perform a counterattack.
Excellent choice of music.
Oh, and Pit's scream at 3:50 is priceless XD
many of these arent the STRONGEST jab locks, but they're definitely strong jab locks. i've had some fun with true jab lock combos myself, and i can 100% confirm that i know stronger jab locks
When this was made I don't think all the moves that could jab lock were found but I'm only guessing
He never said they were the strongest he just said true :/
***** Yea most effective meaning you can actually use them in a real matchup without having to do some mlg pro shulk back air lock
Elian Hirang This was also really early is the game's lifespan and before any patches were released, so some characters aren't as good or better than they were before. Characters like Bowser and DK didn't have their combo throws yet, and characters like Falco and Meta Knight we didn't know had such great combos.
CookieGlob captain falcon has true 0 to deaths so yeah, im also able to perform them too, not in a competitive enviroment though because it takes lots of practice
Excellent video smash corner.
"...Except for Robin."
*Fuck.*
The remix of stickerbrush symphony you put for the video is sooooo good!😆
Awesome, i'm gonna practice that G&W combo, And i'm also happy he can escape those combos
Always love these videos. You put a lot of work into them and I appreciate that. Do you own a WiiU for that version of Smash? Hope to see videos using that version when it comes out.
Yes, starting with the next video, I'll be making content for the Wii U version mostly.
Who’s here still looking for people who don’t know what a jab lock is
yes
How do you get the video quality to look so good for your 3ds image? I got a katsukity 3ds with fraps and I dont get no where near as good of quality as this video. Any tips?
+vee tee Maximize resolution settings in your fraps and the capture program.
+My Smash Corner 4:61. You clever child...
+Lennychu 4:61?
Sergio Rodriguez check description
It's because ur using Fraps, use OBS
Great video. Stickerbrush simphony made it even better. Congratulations!
Ambrose, were you active in melee/brawl too? Because it's weird I've never heard of you. Maybe it's just me who feel like I should know every smasher name lol, but I still felt surprised to see a new name making good in-depth tutorials so early.
Channel is great, though. Love that initiative.
Thoughts on the update changes?
Some good...some bad. I might make a video to splurge my thoughts, if I have time.
My Smash Corner do ittttt :)
What did the update do?
Firefoot900 loads of buffs and nerfs... Search smashboards 1.04 patch notes
Is it me, or does it seem that there are a lot less combo possibilities since the 1.04 patch?
...THAT'S the monado's power? Pathetic
Shulk can Jab reset with Fair (Buster), Ftilt (Buster), Backslash, and Dair
Scale Smasher Robin can make the opponent slide off the the platform by default discording a used up book then jab lock with a Levin Sword
+Matthew Flores
Monado can't even cut humans
Can't hurt myself on edge
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Monado can't cut *Homs*
Why do you not have like 100k+ subscribers your videos are legendary *~*
He has only made 9 videos over the course of roughly 2 months, but he definitely will over time.
Trippy Toad It is still amazing that he has 11-12 THOUSAND subscribers in only 2 months 0_o
umm... can't you recover to the sides to dodge some of those? or the tilts/jabs keep locking the character from doing that? because I think a side-recover can actually avoid some of those combos before the last hit (which normally seems to be the smash attack or an special that sends you off, and a spot-recovery can work as well).
I think I might be wrong, I haven't played that much...but I have a basic understanding of the game .. but idk :/
I know its not a jab lock but palutenas neutral jabs can lead into grabs or f smashes.
These combos seem really unreliable, but I guess they have the benefit of being pretty much guaranteed once you get the jab-lock down. I also like how you can follow up with combos that can be done without jab-locking, like Mario's up throw + up tilt + up air combo, or Sonic's spin dash + up B + up air combo (those two combos are awfully similar though).
And none of my mains are safe from this combo... Sigh...
For paceman could you use the bell to make it longer?
And for Walkman could you use the pause button?
+Deku Scrublord What about Runman?
+Syed Adib Don't forget about Jogman!
Maybe jumpman can
Curse spell check
lmfao the 3ds day 1 release combos
I'm not sure if you've ever done this, but jsut yesterday I saw this weird technique someone was using with ToonLink. Here's the weird part. They would use a bomb, throw it, then re-catch it immediately after throwing it all while in the air. How do you do that?
is thare a website dedicated to these small details im planning on to get competative whit smash.
i have found some sites but none of them have things like this.
I wonder why some people can tech/jump after sliding off a platform but most others can't?
+SkaiCyan
My guess is because they're floaty.
Super late, but in brawl, sliding off of a platform with your back to it forced a minimum fall time before you are able to tech. Assuming sm4sh does the same, floatier characters dont fall as far in this time window, so they can tech or do something to avoid a lock.
I've got some ideas:
1:37 Wind up the move 10 times instead of completing the charge.
2:28 Plant a tree before the combo and cut it down to end it (Or perhaps use the Pocket with a tree in it or something).
2:32 Get a misfire (I don't know if it's stronger than the sweetspotted Up-B or not :p).
the misfire is a little stronger than the up-b, but its 1/7 chance to do a misfire w/ the green missile, its hit or miss
+Aĺexandre Markovic Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
+Aĺexandre Markovic I thought it was 1/10?
"The probability of misfiring is 1/8 for Melee and Brawl and 1/10 for SSB4." -Smash Wiki
+Canica Lopez 11 wind-ups = full charge. Just throwing this out here.
Can't you just roll out of it?
JUST KIDDING I actually know how to play the game
you scared me for a second
You can shield
Man, your voice is awesome. This alone makes your videos cool to watch.
Curious as to why you did not use Zss's laser to set up the Jab Reset I understand F-tilt does the 7% while charged laser was around 4-7 or something, So like you actually could have done laser ( OR charged laser now that Nintendo Stealth nerfed charged laser) ->drop down uncharged laser -> buffered fox trot over -> buffered down smash (As they are on the ground and unable to be restunned for extra %) -> another downsmash which depending on how fast you are or the circumstances might or might not need charging, -> either The fsmash you did
Or Up b (obviously can be DI'd)
OR extremely positional/character based pivot grab -> back throw to down special kick spike.
The entire time, I was waiting for a Robin combo (as he's my main). Now I'm sad.
+The Kid check my comment, it describes how to do 1 of these combos with robin
+The Kid Yeah, He actually does have a Jablock though. Its just stupid and Impractical and you will never be able to use it. XD You have to jump up over them and throw a book down at them. :T So... you wouldn't be able to do the aerial attack to knock them off the platform in the first place, since you'd have a book in your hand. You can arcthunder them and then foot stool them out of that and then throw a book down at them to jab lock but its reeeeeeeeeally hard to follow up. I've never been able to do it in a serious match.
+Casey Clark that's pretty cool to know. thanks
The Kid No prob. Always happy to help a fellow Robin tip the scales lol.
You did the diddy combo wrong, it's DThrow, UAir, UAir, enjoy victory, next match.
Marth Lhant press f for the hoo haa
Okay, this may get a little off topic, but...
I totally rekt my friend in Smash Bros with Jigglypuff. So my friend Noah wanted to 1v1 me at school (3DS) and I accepted. It went out pretty slow, but the 2nd Stock I took from him was basically the most beautiful stock I ever pulled off to a human player. If you think he is a noob as well, or he wasn't in the zone, he plays like an Azen; smart choices. It wasn't with a platform mechanic either. It was basically me beating the living SHIT out of him.
***** Your post was 5 months ago so your skills back then are noobs XD, but you probably have improved a lot. Me right now can play better than ZeRo in Apex.
Vinson Games Yeah, we were noobs. That is true.
But it's also true that I improved. The main reason why I improved is because I fought False, and I was complete TRASH compared to what I am. That was a month ago.
I still have a long way to go, but I'm getting there.
+Vinson Games what's your tag?
。当 My ID is EmmanuelVinson
I know i'm 2 years late. Vinson do you have such a big ego that you think your better then the number 1 player ?It's quite sad to see someone say such a statement with no proof i doubt your better then zero.Tbh i only made this comment because what you said just ticked me off
What version of sticker bush symphony is playing in the background?
For certain characters, is it possible to grab-pummel release them off of the ledge so they slip off?
Actually, the recovery from that would make it difficult to follow up with too, huh?
Poor Robin. He gets left out in all the fun.
why are you talking in 3rd person robin? also shouldn't you be helping the shepherds fighting those risen?
ThankSwalot Chrom died Robin cries his tears on the internet and talks in 3rd person due to being traumatized
Or I just made this comment before changing my username...
You changed your username the same day you commented?
Yep, Almost immediately after posting.
Am I the only one who gets triggered when someone talks crap about the 3DS version? I know it's kinda dumb, but in my opinion both games have their own quirks and WiiU players always feel so superior. Of course, I will never criticize someone for down-talking Sm4sh 3DS, just get mad.
The only character that doesn't have a move that can let an opponent slide off is my main... Why do you do dis..?
Throwing the book can make them slide off.
Nova Animations play a character that isn't trash then
Ultra Why? o.o Robin is fun... Why would I stop playing Robin if I like to play him?
Nova Animations That was sarcasm.
I play Gannon and Little Mac.
Ultra Ah okay. Sorry xD
Would that Marth combo not work if you tippered the jab reset? I was thinking that if you tippered it, there'd be to much knockback and the other player would be able to escape.
Marth's jab has been patched since this video. It no longer locks, but it allows for many different followups.
+My Smash Corner can you please update this for the DLC characters if you're not already working on it?
every character has a move that can slide your opponent off the platform.....EXCEPT ROBIN...
Guillermo Martinez kind of like how game and watch can't L-cancel in melee
Lar's Smash Channel at least robin was still an okay character. g&w, without l-cancellable ariels and a shield, is a terrible defensive character
forgot about that one
u had to show ice climbers 😢
Ikr
SuperSpinnyBally Fuck no. Ice Climbers should never return to Smash ever. (Unless they can find a way to properly fix them.)
LuigiThe13th They already have. Plus. DONT GET GRABBED. I have a feeling your just bad. But what do I know your might just hate them.
LuigiThe13th Ice Climbers should be in smash. I love them.
They’re back baby xD
Not enough Mewtwo 7.8/10
dude ur soooo God damn stupid
Smashing Link
Smashing Link I see you have no idea what a troll is..
Smashing Link Intresting, what font is sarcasm?
how he said his comment, and how little sense it made.also a rating to provide more troll
I found that Shulk can start air combo's on heavier characters. You would just grab throw up and air slash. Do you think there is any potential? I have no clue because i'm literal shit at air combo's.
I'm assuming these only work at low percents? (as if they were at a higher percent they'd fly much further than the ground just below the platform?)
Not enough Ryu, Roy, or Lucas. 7.8/10
gr8 b8 m8 pls n0 h8 I r8 8/8 n8
Tachyon Striker n8?
Tachyon Striker shut the fuck up
da dave dude Not enough Bayonetta am i right
tfw your a robin main ;-;
Same
I know the feel, man. :(
he can actually can make a character slide from a platform with any of his tomes :)
inb4 this is patched in the next update.
:'(
Lol
Any chance on a future video with meteor smashes for different characters?
Love this music, isnt it the Bramble Blast Remix which is used in PM? :D
BRIE Its stickerbrush symphony
Omg u cud esily roll away orr gt up attek I wnna ply u I cud win Suu esily
Have you heard of jab locks you idiot and plus fix your grammar😤
Evil Erinthefatcat Hehehe. Thought someone like you would reply.
i cant believe people were that dumb i hope they feel bad lol and should delete their comments
Micah Allen don't you know about sarcasm
The Pumpkin Buttler It's more obvious when it's funny
Not enough Corrin or Bayonetta. 7.8/10
Do you come back every time a dlc character is announced? Lol
Pancake No... *blush*
+da dave dude That's funny, because right underneath this comment is "Not enough Cloud 7.8/10"
Not enough Cloud 7.8/10. c:
Oh, never mind. You meant a separate comment ;-;
7.8/10. Not enough robin
That combo against bowser at the end was absolutely brutal.
Is there any tips you have for R.O.B I main him?And great video there!
And yes, you can get get out of this combos easily.
Nope.
Yep, using the shield button when you get on the floor
Eduardo Dias Doesn't work when you slide off the platform, like I said in the video.
Eduardo Dias idk what its called but with certain weak hits it forces a normal getup when they hit the ground like that
Eduardo Dias Yes, what igotnolife96 said. It's called a jab lock, or jab reset.
1:03 On Triple D's jump, was it a high jump or a half/low jump? P.S And thank you for using Kirby as your logo, finally someone else who admires Kirby.
What about projectiles and locking? For example, even though Robin can't lock, all his discarded items can initiate one on ledges like in the video if they hit right. Is it true for all projectiles?
45 of the Omega maps don't have any platforms. Do you have a video planned to show off a lot of new true combos (Since VI has been removed) on stages without platforms?
Your new banner looks very nice :]
If you do Throw or Smash your opponent and he doesn't jump in the air or tech on the ground then you can actually jab-lock. But the chance he wouldn't do either of those is veeeeerry slim.
I love what you're doing on this channel! Please keep it up!!
Will you make videos with the Wii U version? Or in the future?
At 2:30 after Villager's Lloid Rocket you can also true combo into the axe right after it explodes if you have a tree up.
Your videos are amazing really. I'm so glad your channel exists. Keep up the good work
Funny looking back on this video and seeing these combos. Most of these probably could've been optimized to death with all the tech we've started implementing into gameplay like footstools becoming common, perfect pivot combos, and even patches.
I love how far we've come :)
how do you use captain falcon's jab?
i never pull that off