What Happens in The Brothers War?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The Phyrexians have revealed their endgame, and now it's up to the Gatewatch to stop them - but with no idea how to use their best weapon, they'll have to send Teferi across time in a desperate attempt to unlock the secrets of one of Magic's most notorious characters...
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The "light is as good as fire" reference by Jodah is a callback to an early MTG novel, "The Gathering Dark" where a young Jodah, just learning magic, has trouble casting a fire spell to light a campfire but can make a strong enough light spell to light the campfire. (Jodah started as a white mage being taught by a red mage)
Don't The Thran and Brother's War precede Jodah's books?
@@pr0fess0rbadass *does some digging* huh, guess I had publish dates wrong... though the publish dates on wikipedia seem off compared to what I remember. Oh well, point still remains about the "light is as good as fire" reference
The very first MTG novel was Arena, published in october '94, almost immediately followed by The whispering Woods (december) and a whol eslew of others. The Gathering Dark, from '99, wasn't even the TENTH novel.
They should get Oko’s help, turn ALL Phyrexians into 3/3 deer with no abilities, problem solved. Or use the Dreadhorde from WAR as an army commanded by Lilliana to fight back
If you turn the phyrexians into deers, will you get compleated if you eat the venison?
@@TheyCallMeDio Yes.
No, it's an Elk without the Phyrexian typing
@@Rewwgh So it's a cure, then
However, could you rely on the fae to help? They might just turn you into a deer.
Karn in the game: Unstoppable
Karn in the story: Got buried, then captured by Phyrexians. Again.
It's literally all his fault! He had the perfect opportunity to kill Rona and Sheoldred in the very beginning, but he didn't. I remember being so frustrated when I read that! They made Karn seem so weak.
@@roberttalley636 To be fair, he's always been a pacifist. I just don't think the card game knows how to show that. Rona is not compleated but I mean, come on guy, she's working for the Phyrexians you are trying to blow up.
Well, to be fair, the latest Karn is considered one of the weakest Planeswalkers of all time.
You must understand the character. Karn is the ultimate pacifist.
That is someone who does nothing to stop evil when he could had done so.
In his case with great power comes great bagagge.
@@Javier-rm6qlSorry, "Someone who does nothing to stop evil when he could gave done so" is the worst description of Karn I have ever read. Even in THIS story described above he kills a large number of Phyrexians. He fought Multani's elementals for the Sylex in order to try to kill all Phyrexians on Mirrodin. Yes, he is a pacifist as stated above but your description misses the mark completely.
I haven't had an opportunity to sit down and read all of the Brothers' War stories in full for myself, but at least from how it was summarized here, I didn't take the points regarding compleated planeswalkers as the story giving conflicting information, but instead as different characters having different understandings and beliefs about the information. Nissa thinks there's no saving them, but Tezzeret has reason to believe the original people are still in there, which is just a perfect setup for drama and fracturing in the anti-Phyrexian alliance.
Nissa’s cold stance vs Chandra’s optimism seems very intentional. That’s ripe for character conflict later (although with the Gruul friends’ relationship already being so strained, I wish they set this up with another pair). Who is right? Who’s to say? (For now)
That could also easily be since Tezzeret fears for his own completion
Love the fact that there's a fair chunk of story for venser, hearing about him was nice. He's actually my favorite planeswalker card
Surprised you didn’t mention how Nissa actually renewed her Oath (of the Gatewatch), at least privately. Here’s to hoping that she gets a Sultai card in one of the Phyrexia sets.
Also, I definitely agree the Jodah was a much more important part of the story for this set and not Dominaria United, but I think they put his card in DMU for gameplay reasons, as he’s unifying modern characters, not characters in the past. It would definitely be a flavor fail if he was cascading into Urza, Mishra, Kayla, Ashnod, etc.
And I still think the Cauldron on Eldraine that cured Garruk will cure the Compleated planeswalkers that survive the upcoming battles, which is why we’re going back there immediately after these sets.
Oooh the cauldron! That's a great connection!
There is also Atzal, the cave of eternity on Ixalan which at least from the artwork looks like it could work similiar to the cauldron maybe they had to Ixalan because the cauldron breaks (which happens in a story in celtic mythologie the cauldron is definitly based on) so they might need a better solution
I think that being this resolute is more of a Golgari/Selesnya/Abzan thing, don't you agree?
i hope to see a three coloured nissa planeswalker card too, shes my favourite planeswalker character
Idk if Nissa will get Sultai. Her theme seems to be a different color pair each time she's not mono green (since channeling the unique mana of a plane is kind of her thing), so I think she's on track for green-red or green-white, if we ignore that she channeled red in the original Zendikar story where she fights Ob Nix.
I do think the recap glossed over Teferi's inadvertent time meddling. He *wanted* to not cause ripples but most of the main stories end with him doing exactly that by being perceived by those in the past even if he is incorporeal.
Also of note is Tezzeret confirming that multiple Planeswalkers have been compleated post Tamiyo. We all assumed there'd be other sleepers but now there is proof even if they shied away from saying who. Also the fact Tezzeret is worried that his own compleation has already begun in the whispers he's hearing.
Is the vaccine bolas gave him no longer working?
@@Kaanfight That's part of his fear. He hopes it is but he has no way of knowing if it is fading.
Play with fire, you get burned
Repeatedly bootlick for evil overlords....get wrecked?
I still have this fantasy in my head that Nahiri (who "conveniently" shows up at the end of the story, with Jace) is secretly compleated. That goes along so well with her own artifact-y past, and Nahiri already is kind of a crazy person, so I just think she's destined, somehow, to wind up as a "big bad" in all this silliness.
Wow, who could have anticipated that hanging around Phyrexians would have negative consequences?!
I believe Teferi will not stay desynced in what is presumed to be Zhalfir. In fact, I'm sure it'll be a case of him meeting a past associate or loved one, them having a heartfelt, loving embrace before they tell him that he needs to go back and finish the fight (cue Halo music). But I'm also willing to bet he will be the one who will "fill" the Sylex, doing his fatherly duty in ensuring his daughter, along with the rest of the multiverse, is kept safe from the Phyrexian threat once and for all... Unless WotC decides to also put some Glistening Oil in the fridge behind Nicol Bolas, and crack it open with the boys some years later when they've run out of ideas.
I'm pretty sure that the one to start off the Sylex will be Ajani in a flash of humanity that still within him. I do believe that they will kill him and that would make a very dignified way to say good bye to one of the best characters Magic ever had.
I hope they kill off teferi soon. Have him do some hero nonsense and get rid of him. A bunch more planeswalkers need to go
@@thatepicwizardguy I don't think you're mad at Teferi hahah you prolly mad at azorius/blue planeswalkers. And all I can say about that is this: they will always find a way to print control pw's in this colors. We have Jace, Narset, Niko... All of them will fill Teferis role as a control pw if he is to die.
@@efuii flash of "leonin" thank you very much :p (also I'd accept that, because this is much better than ajani dying as a full phyrexian in a big blast)
squee wants to die so it could be him
When Teferri said "It's Sylex time", that was one of the Magic the Gathering moments of all time...
It's morbin' time
No
Lmao
Uhg I’m literally gathering rn 😮💨🐡
and then he syled all over them
It's curious seeing Lukka here, as he has always given me the vibe that he is going back and forth, giving some outlet to the other side of the story (Strixhaven) but never commiting to anything and acting aloof.
Anyway, opinions?
• Teferi is totally at Zhalfir. The question remains at what will happen to his body inside the Temporal Anchor.
• This will be totally a War of the Spark 2: Electric Boogaloo with only 3 casualities, 2 of them named, only 1 on them on the set.
I think that the important things will happen *after* the Phyrexian War:
There will be a rift between "let's save our friends with Halo" and "Let's kill everyone before it spreads".
We have seen that Jodah, Chandra and Elspeth want to save Ajani. They have the Halo, they may be able to cure him.
However, there are still planeswalkers without attachments to him (see Lukka, as he is pragmatic) and Nissa, who will clearly oppose any "cure".
I think she will, once again, embrace the antagonistic role (which she did in Zendikar Rising).
Now, Karn. My guess is that he will be corrupted and transformed by Elesh Norn into a massive weapon and used against the protagonists. They will be forced to destroy it before Karn kills them all.
And, right now, I think that's all.
I don't think Lukka is _supposed_ to be pragmatic, he did after all decided to help the Oriq not out of personal benefit (he flat-out says he doesn't gives a damn about that to Kasmina) but due to sympathizing with them trying to dismantle a system of oppressive mages regulating who's worthy and who's not. I can see THAT Lukka jumping to fight against New Phyrexia in a heartbeat and actively trying to help those who were lost.
Ironically, I think _Nahiri_ will be the pragmatic one that sides with Nissa, which would be a deliciously teeth-clenched alliance if I ever saw one. Assuming she's not a sleeper agent that is.
I felt like Nissa was the protagonist of ZNR, not the antagonist. Nahiri was hell-bent on wiping out all changes to Zendikar since the Eldrazi, regardless of how genocidal that turns out to be, and Jace was written totally out of character (at least for his post Ixalan self, who's more well-rounded) and just flat-out ignores any objections Nissa has and tries to mind control her when she doesn't just go along with his idea.
@@sethb3090 I thought that they both are protagonists and antagonists of each other, with Jace trying to act as a 3rd party trying to talk things through... Which ended in him trying to mind control everyone because lol
Well Lukka and Nissa are DEFINITELY opposed to a cure now
@@Bonavire Yep, this comment aged like fine milk
This story is only going to get more exciting from here!
I don’t recall anything being mentioned or written about Gix, but I am glad he finally gets his own card. That and Urza at last getting a Planeswalker card. Sort of.
Ryan: "It feels similar [to War of the Spark]... But I want there to be some meaningful loss of characters this time."
Dack Fayden: "Am I a joke to you?"
He was clearly a joke to the writers at WOTC :p
Yes, actually!
Domri got beheaded then brought back just to be first to die as well lol
Definitely looking forward to the next video on the older story of the Brothers War. Am sure there is lots to learn about cards old and new.
So years ago, when the Eldrazi where the big bad at the time, I came up with a plot line idea that seems to be rather familiar these days.
In it the Gatewatch would be backs to the wall, about to lose to the Eldrazi Titans, when someone(believe Jace was the likely candidate at the time) pulls out the Sylex and uses it in desperation. At this point the game would effectively "reset", going back to the earliest sets with various tweaks and updates, but using the frame design shown in Future Sight. From here we would get another look at the Brother's War, but with things changed, with Mishra being the one to ascend as a planeswalker after the blast, the igniting of the spark burning away Gix's corruption of him.
From here the storyline would play out quite similar to the original thread however with a different mana theme, as where Uzra is a WU character, Mishra is a BR character. Along this path we would get different colored takes on the various storyline characters: Liliana as a more W aligned healer, Jace as a more B aligned mind controller, Chandra as a G aligned restorer and so on, giving us mirrored versions of the Gatewatch with similar powersets to what they already had but done with a different theming.
Again the story would go through various blocks and sets, allowing for more expansion of existing blocks and allowing for the introduction of other sets until finally they reach the Eldrazi once more. Events repeat until the Gatewatch is once again against a wall but instead of the Sylex resetting everything a second time, instead it pulls the two timelines together. As the story characters deal with being confronted by these other versions of themselves that show what they would have become had they chosen differently, the combined strength of the two groups allows them to overcome the Titans. Either deaths occur until only one version of each character remains or some sort of weird merging occurs which brings the two versions together into a new hybrid character: Jace combines to become a telepath who is constantly being driven to indulge those darker urges to just make others do what he wants for free will is just bothersome, Liliana gains the ability to bring the dead back either as they once were or as zombies, so on and so forth as needed.
Or perhaps the two timelines split once again from there. If so you could show which timeline is which by the frame, timeline A being the frame we use to this day and timeline B being the Future Sight frame. Though this would end up being a logistical nightmare when it comes to formats such as Standard(honestly though I don't play that one so it wasn't something I took much into account back then). Either way it leaves a lot of design space open for some creative ideas, more so when you take into account that Teferi exists. Any sets he appears in could have opposite frame cards appear as an example of his powers working to meddle with time; perhaps with Teferi himself always having the wrong border for the set, implying that either the two versions of him are swapped or that Teferi exists in both timelines at once as an outsider of some kind.
So I've had this theory all the way back from 2015 during "Battle for Zendikar". Go figure that the Sylex would see play seven years later, something that I personally only knew about from reading the book series so many times. If anyone wants to write any fanfiction or whatever inspired from this, feel free to go ahead. Heavens knows that I don't own any of this and I was just pulling things out of my ass back then with crazy 'what if's?' at my LGS.
If you've bothered to read this far, I'll leave you with some words of good advice:
Ekki-ekki-ekki-pitang-zoom-boing!
Honestly some of that sounds cool. I have theorized myself that in this upcoming plot with the Phyrexians. My hypothesis:
The Sylex fails in some way. They’ll have one choice: release a certain something trapped in a moon.
I have a feeling teferi finally found zalphier.
I actually like how every character is coming into the final conflict with different conclusions on how to solve the problem. That's gonna create a lot of really good drama and character moments.
one character im surprised we haven't seen recently is tamiyo. What on earth has she been up to since getting compleated on kamigawa?
You know, just phyrexian things
@@Vektor480 what would be amazing is if they reveal that compleated walkers still have something truely theirs of their previous elf that can't be given to the phyrexian cause... in Tamiyo's case her scrolls of forbidden spells is what I'm concerned about.
Maybe she has been introducing Eldrazzi to the wonders of Phyrexia xD
@@Sanvone I don't think they really want rotten food :)
The more I read the story and the direction it is going, the more I am convinced (and very worried) that Teferi will be the one to save the multiverse at the cost of his life.
As for where Teferi is now, I have a feeling he's on Zhalfir
Agreed on both counts. There'll likely be some parallels with the decisions Urza made back in the day. It would be more of a surprise if he weren't 'currently' - whatever that means at this point - on Zhalfir...
Bet Ajani will get the moment of conscience and do it.
Magic writers are not that good to sacrifice characters.
I lost all hope after war of the spark that killed almost none in the fucking climax of the greatest battle of the don't know how many years lore...
Tell me again why we do not have a proper TV show,anime,cartoon i don't care anything! Rapresenting this AMAZING lore!!!!! So sad....this will give MTG such a propelling push in the world!!!!! Thank you Ryan!!!! This video are AMAZING!
I love the library background. Very appropriate for a Loremage
Teferi's in Ixilan in the future, he's going to fight some robot vampire dinosaurs
I'm sad about it as I love her but I'm thinking Liliana sacrificing herself to Activate the Sylex is something Wizards would do to have her prove her redemption to the rest of the Gate Watch and to bring her a full end. This time she can sacrifice herself and not have someone stop her last second.
Either her or Elspeth (they wouldn't have put the scene of Elspeth connecting with others on the matter of lost friends without a reason, would they?).
@@sallomon2357 I think it will be Elspeth. Her focus in this story, especially her side story, and the heavy emphasis on her loss, as well as Jodah teaching her the use of Hurkyl’s Meditation, it mirrors exactly how Urza said he activated the Sylex. He says he had “nothing left” so he poured “everything into it”, and he mentions Hurkyl personally when talking about the power of the Sylex. I could see Elspeth seeing Nissa destroy Ajani, maybe after Ajani kills another main character, losing the last hope she had, and giving her life to nuke Phyrexia
@@sallomon2357 That'd be really stupid considering we just found out she might be an angel from New Capenna who survived the demons' betrayal.
@@sallomon2357 Actually Jodahs seeming importance as a through line makes me think it'll be him. Especially since doing so ignited Urzas Spark and....I don't believe Jodah has one?
I can see it as a reversal of how it went in WotS, Elspeth is about to do it, but Liliana does instead - Elspeth “lost everything” like about 4 or 5 times by now, when all she wanted was to settle down and live in peace. Liliana went above and beyond for immortality, was ready to let it go but was saved from such fate by someone doing a thing so selfless for her, that it even shattered her notion of purpose. It is a good way of having her die in a manner that still honors Gideon’s sacrifice, and manages to not be about last time redemption as it would be had she died in WotS, but in a genuinely heroic act - Not because she had to, but because she chose to. And brings an interesting conclusion to a character who dedicated years to a selfish pursuit for immortality who got through so much as to actually find purpose in dying, and the character who only wanted to chill but selfless kept throwing herself into war after war, and experience loss after loss, to FINALLY get a real chance to live how she wanted in it’s fullest.
…aaaaans I just recognized how this pretty fucking much mirrors exactly the conclusions of Tony Stark/Steve Rodgers arcs. They are trying to pull another “Endgame” and the last one was like only 4 years ago.
Goddamn it Wizards. “Focus on more personal self contained stories” my ass.
I suspect Urza somehow realizes the possible paradox occuring with Teferi's spirit time travelling, and will make a move to take advance and return, provoking a new mending which takes back planeswalkers to their old godly power creep (and in doing so, finding out how to stop phyrexians this way) ... Just speculation after all
I think the foreshadowing of Tefari on the beach could be him getting sent to his home place that was phased out of time, but he got there when it was phased out of time. I have no idea if it has a beach, or if that's a blue planes walker thing like Jace, but yeah
That would be absolutely amazing if they just go all out with planeswalkers in the next set because this really does feel like some avengers endgame type stuff i mean there’s literally time travel in here and in endgame. Although to be honest i don’t know the full story of Urza and Jodah so if u could do a story video on them that’d be really helpful
I think we'll see that in March of the Machines. New Phyrexia is more likely to be the initial failure of our heroes before they rally
Next two sets are probably going to have an infinity war/endgame feel to them imho in terms of story beats, initial doomed offensive followed by last chance gambit that saves the day
I'm just glad Koth is still alive. Chandra is cool but Koth is my boy.
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He knows how that can go horribly wrong from the events that led to his own Planeswalker Ascension.
Haven't watched this yet, but I know it's going to make my morning! I read the books in the 90s, that's been a long time ago...
I only believe Tamiyo and Ajani are lost once we get "Secret Lair: In Memoriam: Tamiyo" and "In Memoriam: Ajani".
Vraska please don't die.
She and Jace need to at least have their date at the bookstore. MtG finally lets characters have one healthy relationship and then makes sure they never get a quiet moment.
Y'all are thinking about this the wrong way: being Compleated causes some mental alteration, sure, but you're still yourself! It also gifts you with immortality, the ability to choose your body, unconditional acceptance and near perfect group unity towards a common cause. If she does join Phyrexia I'd say she's better off, and far from dead!
I hoped they would show Teferi travel into the future and he would observe the multiverse controlled by the phyrexians living in harmony and peace. Like they did with Amonkhet. A perfect dystopia.
To be honest I think Koth is a sleeper agent and that his coalition is a trap for the planeswalkers
For newer players the Story Spotlight cards actually do a great job of explaining the brother's war, how and why the hatred between Urza & Mishra grew, the main events of the war and re-introducing the side characters like Tawnos.
This is why I was so surprised about everything in this video, because the Story Spotlight cards left me mostly unaware of the story in the present timeline. No assembly of planeswalkers, no counterattack on Mirrodin, nothing about Tezzeret, Elesh, Nissa or Jodah gets mentioned and neither do they tell what Teferi was trying to do in the past. Kinda hilarious given they had 40 cards to do so and spent at least 3 cards just to show Urza and Mishra fighting (Epic Confrontation, Brotherhood's End, Gruesome Realization).
These videos have been so good; thank you! I'm not as invested in Magic lore as I used to be, but I still want to catch up on events leading up to March of the Machine, so these videos have been perfect for getting me up to speed!
Glad you like them!
I don’t know enough about the timeline to know if this is even possible, but my theory is that at some point the heroes are going to run out of allies/options and, exasperated, decide to try and try and reignite the spark of Nicol Bolas. Bolas did seal one or of the portals spilling Phyrexians into Dominaria in the Time Spiral series. He channeled his power through Jeska and Leshrac to do it, if I remember correctly. If he does regain his spark he’d see the Phyrexians as an obstacle in the way of achieving his own ambitions; I think he’d be motivated enough to help.
I am beyond glad that they did manage to rescue the powerstone from the Weatherlight, hopefully what is left of Serra's Realm wasn't corrupted further.
I wish they would have explained how they recruited Lukka. He has been a villain on the last couple of planes we have seen him on. I guess they can just tell Lukka that the Phyrexians are a big powerful organization that looks down on him, and so he will get mad and rebel and try to stick it to the man?
We have 2 more sets with the Phyrexians, right? So, what will happen is that we will lose a lot of planeswalkers in the process to only find that they had posterity. The magic sets will then shift into a story about coming of age and these teenagers learning to handle life without their parents, in the shadow of their parents, and facing a new evil in the worlds to come. This will then spark a series on Netflix about their fast times in Tolarian High to accompany a set rather than the online novels.
It will become something that no one wants but, it will achieve WOTC's goal to appeal to a new crowd.
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Absolute Chandra moment. Man, do I love that fiery spirit! I've got high hopes for this story line! The last war against a big bad villain was horribly written, not to mention it ruined a few fan favorite couples. This one's looking to be better!
I realy hope phyrexia wins this story arc, leaving signicant deaths and a despair scenario where the survivors will fell hopeless and obligated to go beg for help of more unpredictable sources (emrakul)
Yeah I've only been into Magic for about a year now and I know that would never happen. WOTC doesn't have the balls.
@@Calvin_Coolage unfortunatly i agree with you, but one can hope
*edit, i see you mentioned this at the end, tho i do disagree about conclusions 🙂
important to note that tezzeret's internal monologue focused on the fact that ajani's spirit was still in there, and repeatedly the narrative refuses to give up on ajani. additionally, his depiction as a phyrexian if incredibly flat and devoid of character, suggesting that they don't intend to portray him as a phyrexian as a true point of character development.
if nothing else, if they can't save him, i suspect they will "kill" him but have his spirit continue as a presence in the story.
A return of both Bolas and Ugin. They are the oldest walkers I believe and they may or may not have insight and knowledge to deal with the phyrexians
I'm hoping it comes down to asking for help from the eldrazi. That'd be an interesting twist. Then again..... that could be terrifying
calling it now. Lukka is def a sleeper. He doesn't seem like the type to just join up with a bunch of planeswalkers out of the blue.
When looking at Hajar, Loyal Bodyguard.
Could it be that Mishra survived the blast, faked his death,
replaced him missing parts with metal, and now walks around under the name...
Tezzeret :O
I wish you would’ve included how Tezzeret doubts his immunity Nichol Bolas gave him to Phyrexian’s infection, to me that was one of the biggest underlying points that was made.
Also one thing that stood out while I’m here about Nicky B is that Tezzeret also points out that that Bolas’s biggest threats to his plans to wipe out after he won were Ajani and Phyrexia. And it scared Tezzeret to see that Ajani was this empty heartless soul of a pawn to Phyrexia.
Naur an edraith ammen!
I was hoping that Teferi's ghost was going to be Urza's spark - like, Teferi would die to use his spirit to generate Urza's spark so he survives the sylex. Student returning to teacher, a cool connection of current events to past events, no paradox...but I guess not ='(
...Glacians spark was Urzas spark
my predictions? when they compleated Tamiyo, the Phyrexians gained two very important pieces of knowledge. 1) the events of war of the spark, and presumably the wherabouts of Bolas. 2) the confinement of Emrakul in the moon, and more importantly, WHY that works. with Karn being a SILVER Golem, with the capability to house a spark, it is entirely possible that an endgame is to trap both bolas and an Eldrazi within him. utilizing their newfound abilities to limit planeswalking, Karn could become the next Garruk, hunting down planeswalkers and destroying them (likely by consuming their spark). i do believe that there may be a possibility that we will see 5 plansewalkers compleated, so when the dust settles on this arc, and the 5 praetors are destroyed, they can take their place, ramping up the difficulty for a future reunion.
It's so funny that Tezzeret's literal first choice to get a new body was god damn phyrexia, well known for giving people the things they want and just letting them go. I feel like he should have at least tried asking, idk, literally any other party first. Might have worked out better for him and also the rest of the multiverse
One thing I think that is being overlooked is what happens if Elesh Norn succeeds in linking the multiverse via the Phyrexian world tree?
Those branches aren't going to be a one way street. There are things in the multiverse that would wish to escape or explore further that could skip their way along.
I mean, I do address that in the video. I speculate Nicol Bolas could use it to escape the Meditation Realm Prison, and I propose other legendary characters are going to enter the battle against the Phyrexians in War of the Machine (since they've already shown us art basically depicting this scenario.)
What else would you have wanted me to say about it?
@@MagicArcanum It sounds like I need to give this another listen as i must have totally missed that in this vid. Sorry XD
So I can safely assume that Autobots allied themselves with Urza, but on which side did Decepticons fight?
Starscream and Tezzeret bond over trying to dethrone Elesh Norn.
@@milanmach2379 I have long called Tezzeret the Starscream of Magic. Always the henchman, never the arch-villain.
@@twarnold14 I recall making the same comparison when I pulled him in Kamigawa
Regarding the recovering form compleation, DMU's side story about Squee and his encounter with Ertai kinda shows that when you get compleated, you lose your soul, and Squee only survived because of tha combination of a spell, his toy and compleation.
So I believe that there really is no going back form Phyrexia.
Well Teferi's body is also currently cut off from his soul at the moment so who knows
@@DDDHunter Yeah, but Teferi hasn't been compleated has he?
@@24105252 Still technically lost his soul
If Teferi is in Zhalfir, I don't think he'd actually want to stay there, but maybe he'll find a way to restore it just to be able to see his daughter again
I'd like a brawl between Elesh Norn and Elspeth. And Nissa still showing her black mana after the last Zendikar set, I like that. Ajani and Tamiyo dying instead of being saved would be a good plot point, just like Gideon in WOTS. The way I see it, one of two things is gonna happen: either Norn's side wins, killing Urabrask and raising a new Red Praetor; or Urabarask is the only one left.
Did Teyo ever show up? I feel like he was set up to be a main character and was quickly forgotten
Teyo did not appear in this story, no.
They seem to be side lining him, the most recent reminder he was still around was an image of Ral getting married on ravnica
It wouldn't make sense for Teyo to get involved in the conflict, as he's canonically a newbie - he's a recently sparked 'walker and still an amateur shieldmage. The Gatewatch recruiting someone so inexperienced against a foe that can corrupt and convert 'walkers to their side would be the actual worst idea ever.
I still believe that there will be some redemption fro Ajani because he is the face of Extra Life and having a villian as the mascot for this real world initiative for the Seattle Children's Hospital. While he might die, I think there will be a redemption in the very least.
I know Teferi is the obvious answer, but I could also see Koth sacrificing himself to end the Phyrexians. He is a "do whatever it takes" kind of guy. And it would continue the pattern of characters I like getting killed off...
Awesome story well summarized. Thanks Ryan and Nicole!
Our pleasure!
Teferi: No! I can't use my body to go back in time! We can't have people comparing this set to Endgame like they compared War of the Spark to Infinity War!
I was surprised to see Elesh Norn fashion a fruit bowl out of Karns head.
“I want there to be a meaningful loss of characters this time.”
Gideon: Am I a joke to you?
Quantity over quality this time. We had a "War" of the spark with a total body count of 3 (named) people.
@@MagicArcanum Hah I was half joking. Domri, Dack, Gideon and I suppose Dovin too? Thanks for this video, and the Dom United one. I haven’t been able to keep up with the stories. This was great.
I think they’re going to send Melira in as their own sleeper agent after Elesh Norm’s tree unites the multiverse and, along with Elspeth’s Halo abilities are going to use that to cure the multiverse of Phyrexia
If you need anything for the plot, just remember "Kaya's Ghostform" and you'll be aight.
Re: whether compleated walkers can be saved - of course they're gonna keep it vague. If they just say that people can be saved, then none of the compleations matter. If they hard-commit to "no" then we know that those compleated walkers will just die. I think a lot of the non-commital stuff is for the best honestly.
"I want a meaningful loss of characters this time"
Wizards: "say no more"
Textbook case of not being careful what I wish for.
A lot of people are saying that Teferi is on Zhalfir, but I feel like with the warm beach and everything my first thought was Ixilan, because we’ve been told we’re going there in a new set soon, and the fact that he’s there even without his body might be some weird interference with the immortal sun or something that could come into play.
The immortal sun isn't on Ixalan, and hasn't been for a while. There is nothing to suggest the temporal anchor allows someone to travel to other planes. It is much more likely Teferi is somewhere in Dominaria's past, since that's where he was when the anchor broke.
@@MagicArcanum Ah gotcha, is it still on Ravnica from War of the spark? I was thinking maybe if he was traveling through time he might have gotten dropped there before it was removed and creating some funky timeline stuff.
This set story felt a lot like that scene in Infinity War when they arrived in Wakanda. A lot of gathering and strengthening of forces, but mostly prep for the big war ahead. We're preparing to attack Phyrexia, but we just haven't gotten there just yet
Teferi is in Ixalan. That's one of the next sets coming up after this story arc finishes. As much as it would be cool to have him help in the fight against Phyrexia, the others have to learn to win without him.
There is nothing in the story that suggests the Temporal Anchor can move people across planes, only to different times on them. And, we know his body is physically still on Dominaria, in the present. It seems unlikely that he would somehow also be present on another plane, but we'll have to wait and see.
@@MagicArcanum I must have missed that part. I skimmed through the story while on my break at work. Thanks for the clarification.
Fantasy Geographic did a video series explaining the original Brother's War story, and I highly recommend it
What's stopping Saheeli from building a temporal television so that they can just grab a popcorn and watch it safely.
For the love of god please give us the re animated Venser leading the Phyrexians in the near future.
im calling it now Jodah is gonna spark while igniting the Sylex
I don't know what is going to happen in the next couple sets, and seeing all these Planeswalkers go against the Phyrexians will be good; however, I really REALLY hope that the story features Glissa and gives her a happy ending.
At least an ending like what Crovax or Jeska got.
I'm mostly a player from the ancient days of the 90s, so I've got like, a completely flipped view of things, where I really care about / am invested in the new look back at the Brothers War, and the reexamination and reconsideration of elements of it (even if just kind of implied), BUT I super don't care about any of the "modern" plotline and check out entirely when we're talking about whole gaggles of planeswalkers getting together to do anything.
>Urza assembles the 9 titans to face a big problem = "ah yes, perfect"
>Gatewatch assembles planeswalkers to face a big problem = "absolute trash"
@@MagicArcanum I didn't mean to suggest it was "trash" by saying I didn't care about it. I know I'm an outlier - I just thought it was interesting when I've seen a lot of people treating the brothers war stuff like a weird pointless detour to "the story". I don't really care how many big robots Urza makes, but I like the long look at Urza and his incredibly flawed character, and especially the stories of the people who interacted with him (and Mishra).
I like the more focused set stories with only a handful of "main characters" (even just Teferi's story in THIS set), but really don't think more is better when it comes to planeswalker stories. If that hits a particular sore spot, I'm sorry, I'll try not to mention it in the future?
Naaaah you're good amigo. I just find it funny how often people praise the story "back then" when really, the Magic story kind of repeats itself, and things from back then happen again now, even if we don't always see it right away.
@@MagicArcanum Oh yeah, tell me about it. The last time I REALLY played was Prophecy, and the last time I really "followed" Magic's story was Invasion block. I heard some of the big plot stuff (mirrodin being created, planeswalkers, eldrazi - veeeerry broad strokes) over the years third-hand, and bought some Ixalan when it was out. Coming back this year and finding out that Phyrexia was... a thing again? And the main threat? And is invading Dominaria in a full end-of-the-universe kind of situation? Really odd time for me to come back, I guess.
Oh man this story is just Days of Future Past in a MTG skin
thanks for condensing a massive storyline. they should really split these into 3 set structures
I'm doubling down that Teferi is in Ixalan, which is where WotC sends all their lost Blue planeswalkers searching for a way to level up.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the side stories for Phyrexia: All Will Be One confirm where Teferi is, and it's not Ixalan...
I haven't liked most of magics story as of late, but considering when I first got into magic the brothers war and Mirrodin were my favorite story lines, I am very exited to see the brothers wars and finally go back to Mirrodin and finish what we started almost a decade ago. Also I was so happy to see that Koth was still alive along with the resistance.
That's cool and all, but how do the autobots and decepticons fit into all this?
ngl the invasion of new phyrexia is kind of just the 9 titans round 2, i bet lukka is gonna betray them or someone else is.
Gonna take a long shot and say that, yes, Terferi is in Zhalfir. And that by the end, he's basically going to end up being lost in the war, as he basically transports them back to help in the war a la Avengers. It will give Dominarían forces the push they needed to win the war.
Also, the Sylax is now the perfect device to write off Jodah, who seems to be a very strong figure.
Is anyone else disappointed with how they’re “using” Karn? Like the guy has done nothing but get trapped under some rocks and then get captured immediately by the Phyrexains. This guy is supposed to be the Phyrexian destroyer and all he’s done is gotten taken apart.
Nice, I've been waiting on the Arcanum re-cap
I personally hope there's no saving the compleated planeswalkers.
Not that I don't like Ajani, but he could become an interesting villain for the future. They'll probably stop the praetors of New Phyrexia, bar maybe Urabrask who could become an interesting character in his own right.
But wouldn't it be cool if Ajani became this twisted version of himself, seeking to remake his pride throughout the multiverse by spreading the influence of the Glistening Oil? I know some people will probably think it's overdone already with Phyrexia, but personally, they're my favourite villains.
It would also be hella cool if the Gatewatch got their hands full and had to seek out some help from the outside... Maybe a certain twin-horned Second Sun and his equally cool Spirit brother? I wonder...
I was today years old when I finally got that the phyrexian world tree was made from the sample of the tree of Kaldheim. I just figured they wanted to use the elixir like the gods of Kaldheim to make their own flesh resist the blind eternities as they travel through the planar bridge.
They both have the same name. How did I not make the connection?
I'm running a theros dnd campaign
When I heard that the phyrexians may pay that world a visit in an upcoming set....... I took notes.
Honestly there are probably several key planes to prevent the phyrexians from reaching (I just can't name any off the top of my head) but theros is definitely among them. A world in which belief and faith can literally shape reality is nothing short of a kid in a candy store scenario for the hive minded phyrexians..... Strap in guys we are in for the long haul
Awesome video. Thank you. Do you have a video that goes over the events of the actual Brothers' War between Urza and Mishra?
I say during this video that the events of the actual Brothers War will be covered by its own video, which is currently in production. It should be ready on Friday (and Patrons will get to watch it Thursday.)
Lukka showing up was a huge surprise for me and kinda left me with a very bad feeling considering his track record. I'm 90 % sure he is either a Phyrexian agent (do they even have a guranteed way to check for Phyrexian influence? Nothing like that was even mentioned, so any planeswalker brought in later COULD be a sleeper agent), or he is gonaa mess up an important mission.
Could be more like Ob Nixilis in WAR where he opposes the Phyrexians....but only so long as they pose a threat to him personally. He can be an antagonist or tweener in future.
At this point I only want Feldon to receive the Omnath treatment of gaining collors like in his story, and come back as a mentor of the Old Ways of Magic.
Kaya seems to be the "Get out of jail" card for the writting team.
I don't know about that. She has a unique and interesting power set, but it does have limitations. They might have been stretched here, but I don't see her as being anymore overpowered than Teferi, who can literally slow a sunset, or Gideon, who was literally indestructible (until he sacrificed himself, but even that at least works with the game's mechanics...)
@@MagicArcanum I'm remembering how they used her in Forsaken, how she could "stretch" her ghost form to Rat, to make her planeswalk with her. I think that book is no longer cannon, I'm not sure, but how she was used here gives me that same vibe. Thanks for the video btw, I look forward to your "What happens in...".
Love your videos. This set made me want to know more about Magic's origins, even prior to Urza. Is there lore surrounding the first sets (Alpha, Beta, etc.?). I couldn't find a video of yours made on the subject. Thanks!
I haven't done any videos covering that era, because the story back then was pretty rough. It was mostly in paperback novels rather than freely published online, and those are full of contradictions and broken continuity because they weren't sure how long the game was going to last and different authors worked on things at different times without much creative oversight.
Super long mustache minute = I'm happy with this installment!
I felt the tease was Nissa being set up to sacrifice herself to the sylex 2.0. I bet she doesn't get the same help Liliana got in War of the Spark because Gideon is super dead & nobody misses him.
I have to admit that I'm expecting some sort of power of friendship thing concerning compleated planeswalkers by the end of the storyline. Since the compleation of planeswalkers keeps their soul intact, and a fully compleated Squee was able to come back because of the uniqueness of his soul (immortality and what not), while I don't exactly expect them to come back with no cost, I wouldn't be surprised if compleation isn't something that lasts forever for planeswalkers.
If only there was a name for a group of Planeswalkers fight intra planiar threats:(
Thoughts on Chandra being compleated and Nissa having to decide whether to be ruthless or to try and save her? I think it'd be neat of Chandra or Jace ended up being compleated and heading the Phyrexian army.
I recently did a video predicting the fate for every known living planeswalker, and I figured the characters of Chandra and Jace specifically are both too popular to die, but it would be an interesting test of Nissa's convictions, I have to admit.
God I would love to see garruk come in from the request of jace or another(say like the twins) and he helps leads the resistance against the phrexians
Beafy Green boy with an Axe? Looks like a real contender for a surprise add
The way they are planning on handling all the planeswalkers has already been shown. The effects of realmbreaker and whatever was in the altar will prevent all planeswalker from planeswalking. They will be represented in this set as legendary creatures. Inversely the praetors will be depicted as planeswalkers due to their ability to transverse through realmbreaker.
This would also be wizards having their cake and eating it too since the community has negative opinions on planeswalkers as commander. Doing it this way makes it so you can finally have a Kaya commander.
Fyi: the background image is the The Royal Portuguese Reading Room in Rio de Janeiro
So, basically, they X-Men Days of Future Past-Ed Teferi into the past.